Healing. Honesty. Boundries.

A convo that hits the soul featuring therapist D'Amira Kedricks also affectionately known as Coach Dee. 

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SPEAKER_01 0:27

We'll cover this story after your own. So are you ready to find out what's next? Come on now. Let's go dive in. So welcome back to what's next with the Chief Librarian. Well, we're here to explore life's physics and power moves. Today's guest is a woman who shows up with intention, integrity, and insight. She's a licensed professional, she's a counselor, a relationship coach, and a powerhouse, the powerhouse behind D Kendrick Consulting. Please welcome Damera Kendrick to the mic.

SPEAKER_02 1:16

Hey, thank you for having me. This is fire. I love this.

SPEAKER_01 1:22

It would be no other way. Would it be a thing? Would Excellence Established be a thing without Damera Kendrick?

SPEAKER_02 1:30

I love it. So happy to be here.

SPEAKER_01 1:34

I'm glad. Thank you, sis, for coming. I truly appreciate it. You know, you and I were just talking a moment ago, and we were talking about just how important it is to take care of self, whole complete self, counseling, therapy, and what that means, and how sometimes our community doesn't always lean in and we kind of lean out. So, with that being said, you know, I want to start with what inspired you to launch D Kendrick Consulting?

SPEAKER_03 2:03

Child, listen. You know, I have been fortunate enough to have an amazing community, as you know, because your family has been part of my community and my tribe. And honestly, God put this on my heart. You know, we think we have a plan for our life, and God always swoops in. He's like, Yeah, so no, this is what I need you to do. And that's literally how it came about. My friend and mentor, and also I call her my boss lady, Dr. Natasha Wright. She actually was the one. Her and my partner, they were the ones to be like, you need to do something. You need to do something. And I always wanted to be a consultant. I didn't even really want to do therapy, surprisingly. I've always wanted to do consultant work, but I honestly didn't know how to do it. So, you know, through prayer and intentionality and seeking in community, that's how I started the Kendrick Consulting.

SPEAKER_01 3:00

So it sounds like you were being obedient to your gift. That's what I heard. I love that. Yep. Wow. So, how is the work with as a therapist inform your consulting business?

SPEAKER_03 3:13

Oof, good grief. You know, you get to see the depths of people, right? And doing counseling and therapy because I've done so many different types of treatment, seen people in so many different ways. And it's allowed me to really understand human behavior from a different lens, but more particularly for my people and my community to fill the gap and what is necessary, what I saw was lacking, because it's lacking disparity of care is very real for our community, right? And that's that allowed me to approach consulting from a different lens. So I do a lot of trauma-informed care consulting and wellness consulting from the lens of a therapist, which I think is very unique. And I feel like that's allowed me to do consulting from a different lens and a different vantage point. So that's how that's been contributing to my consultant work.

SPEAKER_01 4:16

I love that. So have you learned anything about yourself while you're helping others heal? And if so, do you want to share?

SPEAKER_03 4:25

Of course. Oh my goodness, I've learned so much about myself. I'm still learning. This is an ongoing thing. Evolution is so interesting when you step into purpose and you understand what evolution is and why it's necessary. Oh my gosh, it's enabled me to remove layers of myself that I didn't even know I needed to remove the capacity to be vulnerable.

SPEAKER_01 4:59

Oh, that vulnerable. It's that vulnerable piece.

SPEAKER_03 5:06

Yes, like that strong black woman that we all had to have, right? Removing the cape, but burning it and just like annihilating that. But it's definitely helped me shed layers that I thought I needed, and I didn't. So it's helped me to really see myself on a deeper level, to give myself self-compassion. You know, people talk about self-care, self-love, self-compassion is on a whole nother level, whole nother level. And it's enabled me to do that. And honestly, in my most challenging times, it's allowed me to show up for people in ways that I don't think I would have been able to show up had I not been through what I've been through. And I heard my pastor say this years ago, and it's literally stuck with me. You're best equipped to help who you used to be. Child.

SPEAKER_01 5:55

So you came on here to do a sermon today. That's what I'm here for.

SPEAKER_03 6:01

Let the spirit use you. Listen.

SPEAKER_01 6:04

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 6:06

Yes, yes. And I've seen myself and so many people. I've seen my family, I've seen my friends, I've seen my children. I've just seen so much of my community and the people that I serve. And I think that it's been the most valuable thing for my own growth, professionally and personally, honestly.

SPEAKER_01 6:24

Oh my goodness. You know, I love that. And I I love the fact that you mentioned evolution. We don't understand how important it is to evolve as we heal. Because the thing about the healing is it is a natural evolution. But if we don't step into that, we can find ourselves repeating some of the same behaviors.

SPEAKER_03 6:49

Absolutely. Cycles.

SPEAKER_01 6:52

Oh, whole cycles. There were cycles that I thought I couldn't break, and I'm so thankful for the opportunity to have counseling. And that's why, you know, again, I wanted to have you on and hope that you can continue to be a guest on this podcast because it's important.

SPEAKER_03 7:09

Yes, you already know. I'm in the building, you know.

SPEAKER_01 7:12

Uh I'm so appreciative. So, what's the biggest myth you hear about relationships today?

SPEAKER_03 7:20

Oh my gosh, that's a good one. The biggest myth is that black relationships aren't sustainable, I think. That black men and women don't we're not writing for each other, and that's a myth, you understand? Even with black women, I'll take it to the community as a whole that black women are catty and we don't have good, healthy relationships. And I feel like that is a huge myth because black women, I feel like we have the best relationships.

SPEAKER_01 7:53

We actually do, and I love our relationship through my sister. You are my sister, best friend, but through that, you are family, and so our relationship is strong, and you know, in addition to having her, you know, we have you.

SPEAKER_03 8:09

Yes, always have, always have, yes, and we know you have us, absolutely, anytime, any place, any day, and that's the beauty of it. I tell people when I think that's why God pulled me into the space of relationship work because I'm like, all of this stuff that I'm seeing, even now, what's trending about relationships, whether it's friendships or intimate relationships, parentchild, like we also have really great relationships with our kids. Are they perfect? No, they're not perfect, nothing's perfect, but I feel like we all have unique relationships with our kids. But I know that we all in our own way have changed the trajectory of what black families look like, especially y'all family. I always tell Crystal how much I love the way that y'all love each other. Like it's super crazy. Yes, I love it though. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, because you know what? One of the things that I focus on in relationship work is at the core of black trauma. This is why black trauma is so unique, is the fragmentation of the black family. Right, divide and conquer, right?

SPEAKER_01 9:18

You're right, you're absolutely right. And we are not allowing that. Let me tell you, Carol would eat, would come back, beat us all, and then get back to rest if we did that, right? So, no, you're absolutely right. And it is right, you know, sometimes you stray from it, but you recognize how empty and the void when you don't have it. So I'm so thankful that you pointed that out because relationships aren't only about our intimate relationships with a partner, it is about the relationships with our family, with our children, you know, with friends. Yes, yes, with our peers, with our colleagues, like all of that.

SPEAKER_03 9:57

Yeah, yeah, carries. It all plays a part.

SPEAKER_01 10:00

Yes, it all plays a part, it does, but you know, I I need more from you about dating because you know the single and um, you know, too independent. So I want to ask, how can people it's like asking for a friend, of course. Um, how can people balance vulnerability and self-protection in modern dating?

SPEAKER_03 10:25

Oh my gosh, you know what? That's a that's an amazing question, and I'm gonna keep it a whole honey. You know, I'm not even about to play in your face, right? You've already scratched the surface. Going to counseling and going to therapy is the best foundational work that anybody could do outside of having a spiritual foundation. If your spiritual life is off, then your entire life is off. So I would definitely say make sure that your spirituality is solid and you know your emotional intelligence, your emotional health is solid. Because if you don't stand for something, you're gonna fall for anything. That has to be the foundation that you build on. Because what it does is it creates the confidence and the comfort to be open, but also to have discernment with that openness in the vulnerability.

SPEAKER_01 11:12

Wow. No, that I mean that makes complete sense. And I'm appreciative, I'm seriously appreciative of the work that you do, even in relationships, and you have lives, you know, you host live sessions, you host workshops. You know, I want us to talk a little bit about how did you get into that part of the work, understand that there's a need, and how do you protect yourself in these atmospheres?

SPEAKER_03 11:44

Well, how did I get into it? Honestly, just connecting with the community that I have with Dr. Natasha Wright, honestly, she really was a catalyst for me to get into more public speaking and workshops. And I have been blessed to have, you know, God has placed people in my life very strategically, and I don't believe in fumble in favor. So I will give credit where credit is due and give her her flowers when it comes to that type of stuff. And it really tapped into a space for me that was just like, I love this, like this feels it feels natural, it feels good. And I also prayed, I wanted to know how can I serve? How can I serve my people and how can I contribute to the upward mobility of my people? And as we evolve, there are more challenges that come, but I need to be challenging myself to show up for my people in a different way, you know what I'm saying? That I could be more impactful in intimate settings, more personal and things of that nature. So that's how I got started there, and it's been amazing. I love that more than anything, being able to create safe and sacred spaces for my people to connect to each other, right? And to be open and to be vulnerable and to receive support and love. I'm talking about people who never met a day before come together in a space, and I could facilitate that type of connection. That's next level. So that's how I got into that, and I absolutely adore it. Now, how I take care of myself, you know what? What I do is I'm very mindful of what I take in, honestly. Okay, ma'am, like through my eyes, through my ears. I'm very mindful. I don't watch certain things, I don't engage in certain interactions, right? Very much so protecting my spirit and recharging and rejuvenating because I'm uh what they call it, an ambivert. So I'm really introvert, but when I get around my people, as you know, yes, yeah, then all of that uh uh comes out. You know what it is, right? Right, so I listen to my body also, I listen to my body, pay attention to how my body responds to certain things, but I do a lot of meditation, I sit in stillness a lot with nothing. I spend a lot of time with God, honestly. That's really how I recharge and how I take care of myself. But even when I'm on socials, making sure that my algorithm is positive in nature because your algorithm is indicative of what's going on here and what's going on here.

SPEAKER_01 14:27

It's that head and heart. You're absolutely right.

SPEAKER_03 14:30

Listen, so I am very mindful and very intentional. I don't watch when people send me clips. I say, I can't watch this, I gotta take care of myself in a different way. A different way. Spending time with the people that I love that is probably the biggest thing that really, really recharges me. It gives a sense of love to my spirit that you can't get just by yourself, you know. You have to have that, and I think doing that and listening to my body, spending time by the water too. That's one thing I do. I spend a lot of time by the water, no matter what time of year it is, I'm always spending time by the water and really taking in with what God created, which is nature and connecting to that. We come from that, yes, and and I'm very intentional about that. So that's how I take care of myself. But I if I could say one thing, the biggest thing is listening to my body in a different way. You know what I'm saying? As you peel back the layers and you get into like mindfulness work and you start to recognize your body in different ways, and that has been probably the biggest catalyst to me taking care of myself in a different way. Because sometimes we just then autopilot, we just go, go, go, go, go, and we don't ever guilty. We all are because that's all we've known. That's all we've been conditioned to just grind and grind and grind. We don't always sometimes we've had to, right? Some seasons we had to do it, and it is what it is, but we also have to learn how when God brings us to new levels, it's about working smarter and not working harder. We got to take care of ourselves differently.

SPEAKER_01 16:17

We absolutely do. Because I think one of the things that happens is when we we overlook ourselves and we overlook blessings.

SPEAKER_03 16:27

Say so.

SPEAKER_01 16:28

Yep, yeah, right? Yes, we do. So we can miss something because we're not paying attention to ourselves. And um, last week I I had the opportunity to go to a conference in Ocean City. So when you were talking about the water, realized I slept with the balcony door open on the couple of nights that I was there because that sounded an ocean. I was so relaxed. And I slept so well. Yeah, it's the first time I was there, but beautiful.

SPEAKER_03 17:02

Yes, listen, listen, it's a different type of calm. It is like I didn't even know I needed this, like I didn't even know I needed this. So, yes, it's something about ocean city. I only went one time, I think it was 2023, and I fell in love with it.

SPEAKER_01 17:18

It's something about ocean city pre-the summer, yes, yes, pre or post, because it's like either get the I'm not gonna we're gonna tell people because then we don't want everybody there, you know. Gatekeepers, we're gonna gatekeep a little bit, not really. Yeah, we gotta because we gotta we gotta protect our peace. I usually don't, but for this one, I'm gonna hold off on it. But honestly, like really before the summer kicks off or after the summer stops is the best time to go for that for that peace and calm that we're referring to. Absolutely because what a beautiful, beautiful time you can have, absolutely, so you know not, you know, because also this connects with relationships of its relationship with self and its relationship with others. But what's one overlooked tool for managing relationship conflict? So you deal a lot with couples and you know, relationships. So, what's an overlooked tool for managing conflict that relationship conflict mostly that people don't use or have active listening?

SPEAKER_03 18:26

Yep, effective communication comes from active listening. People listen to respond, they don't listen to understand. Literally, that is literally the cheat code listening to understand because it makes you have to take a moment and really just first of all, it eliminates more of the guesswork. You're putting more on yourself, just listening to respond because you just like, oh yeah, well, I'm gonna hit them with this. When they as soon as they get finished with that, I'm gonna get them. And meanwhile, your ears are off, right? And your emotions are high. Emotional brain, thinking brain are two different parts of the brain, where if you can manage those emotions and just show up in the space of why do they feel like this? Like, what are they trying to tell me, or why are they acting like this? Why, why, why? And that's the cheat code, I promise you. It's the cheat code, and being okay with not having a response, even if somebody is just like, Well, you don't have anything to say, be okay with being like, you know what, right now, I just kind of want to sit in that. I want to really take that in.

SPEAKER_01 19:35

I love that. But for those who are healing from heartache and hearing you, but not understanding how to do that. What's what's the first step someone would take?

SPEAKER_03 19:50

Healing from heartache. Well, first of all, your heart has to break for it to be open. Listen.

SPEAKER_01 20:00

No, seriously.

SPEAKER_03 20:02

Right? Your heart has to break for it to be open. And I believe the one thing is people are so afraid of the raw emotion of that that they try to compartmentalize and really try to preoccupy themselves instead of kind of feeling it and really seeking how can I grow from this? What happened? What am I supposed to learn from this? And take time to sit with yourself. That's the time to love on yourself in a different way, on a different level. Now that your heart has broken and now that it's open, so much can come in because you're in a vulnerable state anyway. So you might as well take that time to really like get grounded and be like, wow, this was crazy. Like, this was this was so painful. The why, the why, the why.

SPEAKER_04 20:53

Right.

SPEAKER_03 20:54

But then you have to take a step back and know that everything happens for a reason. Nothing is by happenstance. And a lot of times we get so caught up in the why we don't appreciate the for what. Like, I gotta grow from this. How? You know, everybody don't believe in God. Some people believe in the moon and the stars, but I believe in the one who created it, so I'm gonna speak from that lens.

SPEAKER_01 21:15

That's right.

SPEAKER_03 21:17

You gotta ask God, like, what do you want me to take from this? How do you want me to grow from this? I don't think there's anything wrong with asking God questions that's different from questioning God, right? So that in itself, big difference, big difference, and saying, How can I grow from this and really taking the time to get grounded in love on yourself? Because heartbreak comes along in life. We're gonna deal with loss, we're gonna deal with grief, and intangible loss is something that we don't even acknowledge. If we even recognize that it happens, and and the loss of a friendship, loss of a job, loss of health, loss of whatever. Yes, that stuff is going to hit us the same way grief, that's grief, and it's unresolved grief, and it starts to agitate wounds that were already pre-existing that we probably didn't even know were there, and may have been using that relationship as a means of neglecting or dismissing or overlooking what we should have been addressing. So I would say take that time to really focus on yourself, learn what self-love looks like, right? And if I can't love anybody else, you hear that cliche if I don't love myself correctly. But it's so true. And I think that that would be my advice for anybody who's dealing with like heartbreak and trying to grow from that.

SPEAKER_01 22:34

You know what? I love that because I think what happens with us sometimes is we try to use things to heal. We try to use things and or we try to use other people. So I'm going to take back what's mine, right? That's from somebody else, right? You might have been with somebody and maybe you all split and they're happy someplace else, and now you want to disturb that peace because you don't feel peace. Um, it could be that you're triggered by the loss of, to your point, a job, a relationship, a parent, a child, a best friend, uh that's right. Anything. Yep. And you're looking around and seeing people flourish and thrive, and instead of celebrating, you're trying to set somebody straight and prove that what they're doing doesn't matter as much, or you're more important. You know, I actually had somebody look me in my face some years back and tell me that they were the best thing for a man. Okay. Okay, sis. You the best. I bet it deal with all that comes with that. That best so that you have to set me straight by telling me that you a better woman for the per okay. Well, I move on. I move forward, and you know, that's just me. But that statement in itself always it caught me because not because I was like, Oh, you're better than me. I listen, I don't I don't come into a space and compete. I think what is room for all of us. That's why it's it took me is because it was a black woman to another black woman about being better. And it was at that moment that I realized there was a trauma circle that was represented, and I wasn't engaging in it.

SPEAKER_03 24:34

No, ma'am.

SPEAKER_01 24:35

So I was thankful when you talked about earlier discernment. Because you know, I'm clap back.

SPEAKER_03 24:42

No clean.

SPEAKER_01 24:44

And I had to learn to scale back on it. That's right, and that's the evolution and growth. So I'll, you know, as you said that, that's what it made me think of as we touched on the last question. But listen, there's always gonna be a challenge, there's always gonna be something going on, and I know that you have overcome so much, and we will continue to because we know as the blessings keep flowing, the enemy's gonna come, right? You know it. You know it. With that being said, what's your biggest challenge as a businesswoman and a therapist?

SPEAKER_03 25:18

Being okay with rejection is something that has been the biggest challenge for me and holding space and stepping into my assignment because it comes along with the territory, and the rejection often comes from people who you never thought the rejection would come from. And it's just like, whoa, I think one of the hardest pills to swallow is to realize or have to accept that I'm not as valuable as I thought I was to this person or these people, right? And it's just like I'm just doing the best that I can. I'm not, like you said, I'm not flapping back at anybody, I'm not popping off, I'm not who I used to be, but I feel like people are just knocking me down at every turn or not being open to what I'm doing, and I'm truly being obedient. So learning how to be okay with rejection and learning how to navigate that because the fear of rejection, anxiety comes about from the fear of rejection. I feel like it could be the biggest barrier to stepping into what God has for us, and it prevents us from really embracing our assignment and walking, walking, not just stepping, walking in purpose, right? I think that once I got that down and learned that it doesn't matter, I appreciate who's here instead of focusing on who's not, and that way I can't go wrong because I still have great people around me. I tell people I can't relate when people say they don't have community. I'm like, I got an amazing tribe, it's like interstate, right?

SPEAKER_01 26:52

And you know, we'll jump in the car.

SPEAKER_02 26:55

I know, I know, listen.

SPEAKER_01 26:56

You know, they've been many times. Me and Crystal was like, we could do a 4 a.m. we can swing back around. Because if we have to, she better answer that. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 27:06

Listen, foot on the gas. Listen, say so, but I think that that has been one of my biggest tools and navigating like business and being a black therapist because ethics are very limited nowadays. I'll be honest with you. Yes, so being ethically sound and that, but also having my people who they love me, but they're real with me, they're gonna hold me accountable, and I could take it because I know it's coming from a place of love, right?

SPEAKER_01 27:32

So, yeah, you know, that's uh I agree with that about being able to receive information, so it's like we're getting to the end of the segment, which would really quickly accountability. You know, to be accountable to yourself, we often are more accountable to others than we are to ourselves.

SPEAKER_03 28:01

Say so. Yep, yep, yep, yep.

SPEAKER_01 28:05

So I know earlier you answered a part of this, but I want to ask the question straight out so people can hear it and then hear your answer. How do you protect? Because this is a part of accountability. How do you protect your peace while serving others deeply? Because I know everything that you do, you do it your full heart.

SPEAKER_03 28:27

Yes, yes. Oh my goodness, yes. Well, accountability is ownership, right? That's why we can't often make people take accountability. Accountability is ownership, and I have to own every part of me. I have to own the good, the bad, the ugly, the not so great. And owning every single part of myself enables me again to show up and have self-compassion for myself. And I feel like I would be disobedient to God if I don't do that. Because how can I carry out the assignment on my life if I'm not taking care of this temple? From top to bottom, left to right, I would be irresponsible as a child of God not to take care of myself, and I have to be very particular about what that looks like, and every season is gonna change, right? That's gonna change what that looks like. How can I show up?

SPEAKER_01 29:16

And as we get older, that changes also, yes, that part, like because parry is parrying on my nerves, and ain't got no sense.

SPEAKER_03 29:29

Oh my goodness, yes, because that's another thing. Being a woman is completely different, right?

SPEAKER_01 29:34

That's a whole nother episode.

SPEAKER_03 29:36

We gotta have to step into that because ghetto, this it's ghetto, it has its emotional ramifications too.

SPEAKER_01 29:45

Yes, yes, yes, with all impact accountability relationships, the way you show up, you know, the way you evolve. It really does impact.

SPEAKER_03 29:55

Mm hmm. Yep, it's all connected because the same way, if I'm not steward in my Myself, well, I'm being irresponsible. If I don't steward the gifts that God gives me, I am being irresponsible. And I always pray for kingdom wisdom to steward what God gives me. Well, I wanted, I do not, I ain't playing with God. Some people do, and that's between them and their God. The God you see is the God you get. But for sis, I'm not about to even play like that.

SPEAKER_01 30:22

As for me and mine, we will not.

SPEAKER_03 30:25

We will not.

SPEAKER_00 30:29

Oh, I love that. Oh yes, yes, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_01 30:33

I love that. What's any last words, any advice that you want to leave the people with?

SPEAKER_03 30:41

Get to your healing. Get to your healing so you can show up as the optimal version of yourself and get to what God has for you. When we don't take care of our wounds, they keep reopening, they bleed on other people. Right? Oh my god, today. And again, the reason why black trauma is so specific is because it was divide and conquer. Literally, what oppression is is to make sure they keep us apart. So the more that we can unify and love on each other and see past the behaviors and show up just to be kind to one another and to love on one another. That's literally the only thing that I have. Forgiveness is the key to healing. You can't heal and forgive on the back end. Forgive yourself first. You did the best that you could, right? With what you had at the time. Forgive yourself, right? And then you can forgive other people, and it allows you to show up on a whole nother level. So I would say that love on you so you can love on other people properly, and we could do what we've been doing, which is be swagged out and love each other the black way.

SPEAKER_01 31:51

Okay, my dear sis. So what's next for D Kendrick Consultant and you personally?

SPEAKER_03 31:57

Oh my gosh, what's next? I have so much that's next. I have some coaching courses that are coming up for my couples that are all of my work is specifically geared towards black love because it's very unique, it's very tailored. So I have some new coaching courses that are coming up for couples to engage in. I'm gonna do some workshops where I could do virtual tools, so I can get across to people in other areas. So it doesn't matter where you are. This is the beauty of coaching, there's no insurance involved, so it doesn't matter where you are, we could connect, but I'm definitely gonna be doing some of that stuff. Some book stuff coming. Yes, yes, librarian and me. Yes, yes, so yes, some writing, some books that are being prayerfully done by the end of the year. It is a project doing that and still showing up, yeah, and just honestly doing more speaking engagements all over the place, and being pulled on, and I thank God you gotta be careful what you pray for because he will show up and show out. So it is a blessing. So a lot of that stuff is coming down the pipeline. And what is next for me personally, honestly, just living and thriving. We've been in survival for so long as black people in America. I have been in a season of thriving in a different way. So that's it. Just connecting with my people, getting myself out there. As you know, it's been a journey over the last couple of years with some health challenges, but God is faithful and He is doing what He does. And I am out in the streets.

SPEAKER_00 33:42

You outside.

SPEAKER_03 33:44

I'm outside.

SPEAKER_00 33:46

I love it.

SPEAKER_03 33:48

So yeah, that's it. And and more collaboration with you and with the family and things of that nature, and just getting out there to connect with the people and to keep doing the Lord's work.

SPEAKER_01 34:00

I hear that. Well, thank you, Day Mara, so much for coming on today. I've had an amazing time chatting with you for the YouTube. Yes, I'm so thrilled to be able to get your work out there more. Um, you're doing amazing things. I've told you this work is needed, this support is needed, especially in the community. We don't always know how to love one another or our self. So to have us to be able to show up for one another and help us thrive and grow and heal is super important. So I just thank you for taking the time. And I look to all our listeners, you will be hearing her voice more often.

SPEAKER_03 34:40

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 34:40

I just want to say, I told y'all this episode was full of gems. If you love what you you're welcome. If you loved what you heard, please make sure that you follow Damira Kendrick at Dekendrick Consulting and visit dekendrickconsulting.com.

SPEAKER_03 35:01

Yes, ma'am.

SPEAKER_01 35:02

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