How Ozzin Jun Found Purpose Beyond Marketing

 In this episode of Career Coaching Secrets, host Kevin sits down with Ozzin Jun, a successful coach and digital marketing expert, to explore her journey from hustling in multiple online ventures to building a thriving coaching business. Ozzin shares her lessons on identity shifts, purpose-driven marketing, high-ticket coaching, and overcoming challenges, from debt and chronic illness to personal growth. Learn how focusing on your unique voice, client impact, and long-term vision can transform both your business and life.


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Transcript

Ozzin Jun: 0:00

I was focusing too much on blueprints, getting the secret sauce. I thought that I was like missing something. I hired also multiple mentors. That's like the reason why I also wore like wasn't depth. It was like positive investment, but I I was always like thinking they had something that I didn't have. And it until it wasn't until I really realized that I had to like more focus on my unique brand, like what's really my voice. Instead of like asking what should I post so I get a client, it would more like what do what do I really want to say? What does that really specific person need to hear? I shifted more into being focused on the purpose, on the service. I also shifted my identity into like who, like which type of woman do I need to become?

Davis Nguyen : 0:44

Welcome to Career Coaching Secrets, the podcast where we talk with successful career coaches on how they built their success and the hard lessons they learned along the way. My name is Davis Wynne, and I'm the founder of Purple Circle, where we help career coaches scale their business to $100,000 years, $100,000 months, and even $100,000 weeks. Before Purple Circle, I've grown several seven and eight-figure career coaching businesses myself, and have been a consultant at two career coaching businesses that are doing over $100 million each. Whether you're an established coach or building your practice for the first time, go discover the secrets to elevating your coaching business.

Kevin: 1:16

Welcome to Career Coaching Secrets Podcast. I'm Kevin, and today we are joined by Osin June. She has been a coach for four plus years, been uh doing digital marketing and consulting since she was 18 years old, and is the founder of June International Coaching. Welcome to the show, Osin.

Ozzin Jun: 1:34

Thank you so much for having me, Kevin. So happy to be here.

Kevin: 1:38

Yeah, I'm happy to kind of dive into your story because um you're mentioning like uh You know, you're doing digital marketing and consulting since you're 18, and then you transitioned to coach, and you could have been so many things. I'm sure you could have been a sushi chef, probably a professional tennis player. Of all the things you chose, you chose to be a coach. And so um I would love to kind of hear like why did you choose coaching and how did you turn it into a business?

Ozzin Jun: 2:03

Yeah, sure. So coaching isn't actually something that I chose from the get-go. I never honestly expected it. When I was 18, I was still in school. I just uh graduated and then I did a higher study. And for me, after my parents were divorced, I just wanted to help out my mom financially. And I've been just typing in like how can I make money online? And I've been to that route, like trying really many things, like from e-commerce, trading, you know, like so many network marketing, and tried those things out. And at some point I found out that I was like going down a rabbit hole, like kind of chasing money and never really found like fulfillment. And one time, you know, I you know, I came across like digital marketing that you can like do affiliate marketing and help other people with that skill and copywriting, and that was something that resonated with me. I found more passion in doing that, so yeah, I I dived into that. I invested into a coach and in my first programs, and that's how I advanced in this area, but it wasn't until like 2021 where I really got serious in terms of you know wanting to take this to the next level growth. Um, and that's like a moment where I zoomed out again and said, okay, I like marketing, but like there's still something kind of missing in terms of the purpose that wasn't really there. And there I really realized, okay, I love to transform people's lives, and it's more than just marketing, it also has a lot to do with um, you know, personal growth, foundation, like identity work and stuff, and that's actually how I transitioned into a coach. And I didn't believe I could make money out of that, especially like who could take me seriously at that age. But after, yeah, investing and just going all in, like, yeah, my life is very different than four years ago.

Kevin: 3:58

Yeah. You know, it's really interesting. You were saying, like, yeah, at the time you didn't think you could make money as a coach. Why was that? Like, what was going through your head at the time?

Ozzin Jun: 4:06

Well, I had like this limited belief that you know, coaching is something that I don't know, for some reason the age was a thing because I thought that I'm like too young, people wouldn't take me like seriously. Another thing was it was so like I don't know, like a different world to me to imagine I could be making money, and then on top of that, like large amounts of money. Like for me, even like making a thousand bucks a day was already like, wow, that's a lot. Because before that, you know, as a student and stuff, I was like living kind of on survival, just having my bare minimum. I was okay, but I was never like neither abundant, and over the years, I've you know invested a lot into coaching and mentorings, and sometimes I took on debt loans, asking mom and scratched my last money together. So there was a point I was in over six-figure depths and it accumulated. And at some point, um, I when I was while I was already in debt, I decided still to invest into a mentor back then to help me with my coaching business. It was like a 10 grand investment. And it was one of the scariest decisions in terms of investing since I was already in depth. But I knew that, you know, staying where I am lost would be more expensive. And I just trusted into the wit vision and the long-term game. And yeah, it paid out because after the investment, I really focused on mastering sales and marketing. And after three months, I got my first, you know, clients and stuff, and that's where I gained like momentum.

Kevin: 5:37

Wow. Yeah, thanks for sharing that story. That's so interesting. You know, it's usually those times when we're like really struggling where we need to make the investment that um that you courageously did. And now I'm kind of curious, like, you know, when you started focusing on sales and marketing, a lot of people in the coaching space, they talk about ideal client profile. And so one of the things I'm thinking about is like, you know, how um how did you decide who you want to help and the problems you help them with? What kind of coaching do you do in?

Ozzin Jun: 6:06

Yeah, I would say it's something that evolved because the first time I started out, I was targeting more aspiring entrepreneurs and like coaches that want to like get like to 10 grand a month. For it was because I already embodied a certain transformation that I've already mastered. You know, like I kind of got through the beginner stage because of, you know, the pre-work I did when I was 18, helping people out in marketing. I met some bucks there and there. So I just like taught the people what I've already like could do well, whether it was with, you know, appointment setting, posting, branding part. And as I gained like more results, I started to shift like more into helping established business owners who already do well, like they are like solid having like their 10k months, and then I started to help those people to amplify their income, you know, to scale further from there through like mastering messaging, visibility, um, all of these things. And yeah, I would say that I got more specific who my client was, where she or him was stuck, the symptoms and all of these things, but it's something that had to evolve through, you know, working with multiple clients.

Kevin: 7:17

I see. And really kind of curious. Okay, so you started shifting over to more established business owners. Do you notice like there's a lot of different types of business owners out there? Did you do you kind of notice any patterns of the type of business owners you kind of were attracting at the time or these days?

Ozzin Jun: 7:33

Yes, yes. So I would say at the beginning, I had rather people obviously that were often like struggling. I mean, obviously, because I was like targeting like beginners, newcomers, new coaches. So at times it was a bit harder to get them off the ground, especially like their mindset. There was a lot of limiting beliefs and things. So it was interesting, but it was a different type of work. And when I worked with people that already made five, ten grand or even twenty grand plus, they already had a leadership pattern. They brought with them, they were more self-led, they had very specific problems that they already were mostly aware of. And I would say it wasn't really motivation or anything, still limitations at times, but more like aware of these things. And I think the yeah, the pattern just like showed up in terms of like the ease of the work and yeah, the depth of it as well.

Kevin: 8:27

Yeah. And something else I'm like really curious about because you do have a marketing background. And so, you know, as you are targeting or as you are trying to, as you're growing your coaching business, how do these people typically find you and all that? Like what kind of marketing are you doing?

Ozzin Jun: 8:42

Yeah, so mostly I rely on organic marketing. I started on Instagram on and on Facebook, like just doing posts and stories. That's like how I initially started. And this approach still works until this day. So where you know, people like message me, like warm hot leads. At the very beginning, I found that cold leads game as well, like reaching out to people until it like kind of wasn't really fun anymore. I still do that if I feel, but it's not really like my strategy. And now, like, including also LinkedIn, I just like do posts, talk about my offers, the transformations, you know, different frameworks that I teach in terms of content. And that's how, you know, through referrals or hot leads that comes through away on social media.

Kevin: 9:28

Yeah, I love that. That's cool. When did you kind of start seeing things like really scale up for yourself? Like how how many years in? It sounds like you know, it sounds like your marketing was an evolution. It wasn't like intent, it didn't just all happen overnight, right? And so, what's the timeline of like you adding all these things?

Ozzin Jun: 9:45

Well, I would say that for me, what took time, as I mentioned when I was like 18, I think was like rather finding like really what's my focus area. The exploring stage is something and becoming that person. Um, that took me time, character. But once I kind of knew, okay, coaching is something I really want to do long term, 2021. After I invested into that coach, um, it took me actually eight months until I made my first six-figure cash months. So I feel that the curve really went like exponential up. And the momentum actually was my first masterclass I've done. I remember, you know, I was traveling with my mom in Monte Carlo, and one of my other coach friends said, Hey Austin, you're, you know, so good with speaking, you should do like a masterclass. And I wasn't really like ready for that, but he already like created the flyer, and he said, Hey, your event flyer's done, you gotta do it like next week. And I did it so last minute, um, pushing it and inviting people. After I've done it, I sold on that mastery class in those 90 minutes my 43k cash. And Dev kind of really opened my eyes, like, what was possible, and that was for me like the momentum to also like reach my first 100k months.

Kevin: 10:59

Wow, that's really cool. And so, okay, so people, so now that we understand kind of the marketing and like I think what was really cool to you is like that identity uh the identity work, the identity shift that because a lot of people talk about the tactics, but like the identity work is so important. And I'm kind of curious here, right? Like you kind of gave me a glimpse of who you were before, but who were who did you have to become to have like those huge uh revenue months and stuff? Can you give me an idea of like before and after?

Ozzin Jun: 11:28

Yeah, sure. So I think before I was someone that had just a lot of optimism in my life, like I just knew what I wanted, but I I was focusing too much on blueprints, getting the secret sauce. I thought that I was like missing something. I hired also multiple mentors. That's like the reason why I also wasn't depth. It was like positive investment, but I I was always like thinking they had something that I didn't have. And it until it wasn't until I really realized that I had to like more focus on my unique brand, like what's really my voice, instead of like asking what should I post so I get a client, it would more like what do what do I really want to say? What does that really specific person need to hear? And I shifted more into being focused on the purpose, on the service. I also shifted my identity into like who, like which type of woman do I need to become in order to hold all of that. It was also questions instead of like how can I make 100k months? It was like, what's the type of experiences I want inside my business and in my life? Like, do I want to wake up passively to cash? Do I want to travel? How do I want to feel? And and also like the long-term character I needed to hold, whether it's like in leadership, whether it's like my blind spot, studying like patterns where I would avoid certain things. So it was really deep work on all the type of things, like being really clear what I want, what I didn't want, what I avoided, recurring mistakes. Um, and based off that, I think I kind of got more clear on the identity instead of like trying to follow too much my mentors and really evolving like my own frameworks, what would work for me or what would differ slightly in the way I would do things.

Kevin: 13:19

Yeah, there's that really great book by Ben Hardy. He always talks about like be your feature self and all that. And so I just like love that. As you're listing it down, I was like, oh yeah, this is like really, this is like the inner work that gets neglected all the time. And I'm so glad that you kind of spoke about this. Okay. Now I'm sure people are finding it out about you through organic uh marketing and other marketing channels that you mentioned before. They're probably like raising their hand and they're probably like, Ozan, how do I work with you? And so my question to you is like, what does a coaching engagement and your offerings look like? Do you offer mostly one-on-one group trainings, organizational? Like, I would love to kind of hear about your offerings.

Ozzin Jun: 13:58

Yeah, sure. So currently, and the best way to work with me is through one-on-one coaching. You can like message me on Instagram, on Facebook, or on LinkedIn. And there are different like packages and ways to work with me for either three, six months, or twelve months plus. And it usually consists of like one-on-one coachings with chat support. There's also like online video modules that come with that. And I'm also right now working on a new program that will start like next year in January, and it's about a personal branding for business owners. And there I share like the most updated versions when it comes to messaging, the visibility, and especially also the identity part, as I really feel it's a part where people skip the most. And I feel it's the very thing that made me like successful in you know, beyond business in so many things. So I kind of share this more in depth with the strategies alongside.

Kevin: 14:56

You mentioned people skip the identity work. Why do you feel like that is?

Ozzin Jun: 14:59

I think it's because it's so easy to kind of like I think we naturally try to look for a shortcut in what we want. Like, I think it's natural to say, oh, you know, I have like this money goal, or I want to get on stage and do these things. So I think the most natural way for us is to kind of like ask for how do I get there? And you want to like have like the blueprint, the the strategy and all these things. And it sounds also cool to say, like, oh, I got a strategy and stuff. But I think the the work it takes, the substance it takes, it's often a different question. It's not just like the how, it's like the questions of like who are you being it while you're doing. And for me, I've learned to, you know, I I think I put my identity into so many temporary things, such as it could be a validation of others, it could be the performance, it could be the emotions or circumstances and all of these things, and it would feel very shaky. And for some time it can serve you, you know. Blueprint works because I've done it at the beginning. You know, I just started, you post as long as you stay consistent and make the offers, you can get clients, but at some point you hit like a ceiling where you really have to kind of like do the inner work and confront the things that you're avoiding. And I personally I know this is like another depth layer, but I found also through very hard times while I was chronically sick and had to change my entire business model. I found their faith in God, and I stopped putting my identity into temporary things that wouldn't last and caring too much what our people think. And when I put it into God, I feel my self-worthiness allowed me to make more money and hold it. And I think that was also for me like a turning point.

Kevin: 16:40

Yeah, it sounds like it was such such a much deeper journey than you kind of initially painted. It sounds like you went through some a lot of trials and tribulations.

Ozzin Jun: 16:48

Yes. Yes, it's it's only I think you know, that's something I want to mention. I think that many people see what our coaches, entrepreneurs, and the like the success, but I think it's so easy to forget the the work it took, the sacrifices it took, the turbulence it took. And I don't want to like emphasize too much on trauma, but I do think that I I just saw this pattern as well. The more kind of messed up somewhat your childhood is or certain things that happened to you, I feel the higher you kind of rise somewhat in life. I think it's also a choice, of course. But for me, also like you know, 2019 I I was in a very toxic abusive relationship, and although it had nothing to do with business, I think this experience of you know being raped at that time and even kidnapped here in Switzerland. I had to go through like court trials and very heavy things. And with that, I had still the depths, and then on top of that, I got like chronically sick, so it felt like everything happened like all at once. And the impact of that, it like back then it was so tormenting, but it taught me like to to level up like the type of food I'm eating and how much of the sicknesses comes from food, the inner work. Now, you know, fast forward four years, I'm in a happy, healthy relationship now or marrying. I think all of these things, it had a huge impact on how I also approach like business, self-worthiness, and all these deeper things. And I think that's also the part that helped me to serve other people better, seeing the bigger pictures and not just the strategies and making more money while that's a big part.

Kevin: 18:27

Yeah, you know what's really interesting. Well, th first of all, I just want to thank you for just being so vulnerable and sharing that story as well. Like, um, I appreciate it. But before we kind of get to our other questions, one of the things I was thinking was like earlier you said, like, does I know it's not related to business, but is it really? Like, in my opinion, I feel like the personal and business, it's like intertwined, right? Like when your life is I don't know, you can agree or disagree with me, but like I think a lot of times when our personal life is so chaotic, it's hard to hold down the fort for like the the business side too. Do you agree?

Ozzin Jun: 19:02

Yes, yes, and no, like both. I would say from my own personal experience, when your personal life is obviously like not going well, it is obviously hard to perform. I mean, when I was sick, it was, you know, I could be mentally so hyped up and disciplined, but if your body doesn't allow it, like it's really tough. However, I also learned that money doesn't care about your emotions or conditions. And that's something I have to learn that, you know, like it's not based on the mood. It's like going to a nine to five job. And often, even if you don't feel like it, you still show up and go to your work. And I consider that same in business. If I'm in business, I have like a clear boundary, like I show up professionally. Obviously, I have my boundaries if I can't. If I'm like sick, I have to adapt the approach or like call it off. But I think that it's like more so I can show up like on a podcast, do the client calls very professionally, and still be healing behind the scenes at times where it's needed. Um, I think it's just Like learning to lead yourself through these times. But obviously, if you don't know how to do that, it is hard. And I think at the end, it obviously helps if you have a great foundation personally and not like a mess behind the scenes, so you can be more clean on the inside as well.

Kevin: 20:16

Yeah, let's talk. So, since we're talking a lot about identity shifts, right? And the identity shifts that you've had. One of the things I've noticed, right, and a lot of coaches struggle with this, it's the money aspect, the pricing aspect, because they're thinking, like, oh my God, what do I charge? How do like what's that initial number that I kind of come up with? Of course, you don't have to give any hard numbers, but I think about like the identity shift of like who you need to be to have a successful like like coaching business. And how do you think about pricing and structure like pricing and pricing strategies today? Like, how do you are there any key lessons that kind of influenced that and shaped your perspective?

Ozzin Jun: 20:55

Yes. I was at the stage where I was first kind of open to any type of price. You know, when I started out, I had no clue how I should price it. So my mentor who was into high-ticket coaching, he from the get-go told me, hey, your program, it should start at 5k. Let's do a high impact, deep work with what you do. And with that belief and the borrowed belief from my mentor, I went all in. And therefore, because of you know the way I packaged stuff, like I managed to have my first 5k client. And after that, I raised it like to 10k. And that's like the standard that I hope to myself. It wasn't about the amount of clients, but the depth of the delivery to work. And I was very confident with that pricing. And then at some time, you know, I saw their coaches like having like 25k packages, 50k packages, and you know, like other like prices. And I started to compare. And there was a time where I got really confused. And I would say, Oh, should I make this higher or should I make it like mid-ticket? Should I have like a I don't know, like a little mini like transformation or freebie? And there were so many options to do things. And I would constantly ask my coach, is that better? Is that better? And it was to the point I really like wanted to like, how can I say that? I wanted like rip off everything because I wasn't clear anymore what I was doing and how I should be doing it. And then I had like this moment where I spoke to someone and that person said to me, like, hey, pricing is a very personal thing. And also it depends like who you're like working, like who you're like targeting, obviously. You can charge sometimes 10x for serving a different market and stuff and solving different problems. And that's where I just realized everything works. It's just like more so which which way do I want it? Which way do I want to refine it? And therefore, like today, like I love high ticket. I love to work deep, so I hold that um that amount. And then for like coachings or like people that are just starting out, I have like separate course I can offer on a mid-tier level, like for 997 or 497, like for some students. So I kept that part, and I think it's like, yeah, more like focusing on what's the ROI for the client, who is the client, also the avatar, making sure that it feels good so you can serve the person without like money resentment that it's like too less for what you're you know getting for.

Kevin: 23:19

That money resentment is so true, too, right? Like that that's a very good point that you just highlight as well. To shift gears here, right? Like, one of the things I think about is like your initial journey of like, oh, who you were, who who you are today. But I also think about your future too. And so kind of curious, where do you want this coaching business to take you in the next few years? Do you have desires to scale more? Do you want to hire more people? Do you have like secret dreams no one knows about? We'll love to kind of hear about that.

Ozzin Jun: 23:47

Yeah, absolutely. So for me, I think that coaching is something that I will keep doing for the next like 10, 20 years. It's all obviously something that I really am passionate about. But I think the new thing that will come is to build more movement around that. And what I mean by the movement is first I started to, you know, wanting just purely doing coaching, but I think that I'm like someone I want to go and connect different industries. Like I'm also very active in you know the media industry. I love doing music. I'm also now politically active in Switzerland as a politician. So there's a lot of like industries that like come together, but what they have all in common is that I serve in all those industries. I always talk about identity and purpose, and that's and I connect that into also the business part. I just want to build the women power leaders movement where I teach women to be a modern like entrepreneur, but root your identity into God and not into the temporary things, and that's probably the biggest thing before I had already built an entire community and it was about the wealth queen movement. I was like talking and serving more mostly women, but there was no God, it was mostly based on business metrics and strategy, some mindset there and there, but I felt it was more shallow, and I kind of like ripped everything apart since I was like sick, and while I recovered, I really realized I had to build the foundations differently. So I put the identity first and the purpose and the opposite uh way around. So yeah, I think the purpose is really to empower healings, empower people to have also healthy finances, health, and relationships.

Kevin: 25:34

Yeah, I love that. And as you are kind of like building this movement, I guess like maybe actually, you know, one of the things I also like to kind of talk about on this podcast too, it's like when we're on Instagram, it's easy to see the highlight reels, right? Like of like, oh yeah, this year in 2025, and everybody posts their like they're like they're like like the best moments of the year. But I'm kind of curious too, in this current season of your business right now, some people would call them challenges. I like to think of them as growing, growing pains, right? Are there any growing pains that you're kind of noticing? Anything kind of unexpected in the season of business right now?

Ozzin Jun: 26:12

Grow pains. I would say, okay, for me, I would say it's understanding and how to prioritize in terms of seasons. So I'm a very like multi-fassionate person. I'm also someone that moves very fast. I would say at times a bit too fast. And sometimes I have to adapt like my pacing and my focus not to do too much at once. So I've gone that route, you know, where I also, you know, done my past. I'm still doing it, but I just like pausing it right now. But I I would like to say, like, I have like this thing right now, I'm working on my book that's gonna be published in February. It's a huge deal for me. And then there's gonna be like events, immersive events I'm gonna create and also go to the US, Asia, and stuff. Um, then there's my political engagement. So I've always like had people that ask me, how do you manage all of that? And for me, it's obviously like I have like two assistants. There's AI, there is the way I lead myself, but I think it's really like right now, knowing I'm maybe less active on Instagram than usual. Like I still post, but not as every day. But I'm focusing more on getting the work done, like for, for example, like my book and keeping the clients I have without like really wanting necessarily right now, you know, insane clients. And then from there, next year, once the book is out and certain back end stuff are done, as well as political elections, to go back into the visibility part. That's kind of like where, you know, where I'm learning to manage it even better.

Kevin: 27:39

That's so interesting. You have quite a bit going for you, especially with the political stuff, the book. That's why you said uh not doing too much at once. That's so interesting. Cool. Last last segment I would like to ask you, right? So in your years of business Sozan, you've probably gotten a lifetime of advice by now. Some of it great, some of it terrible, maybe some of it unsolicited, right? And so, what's the most overrated piece of business business advice that you've gotten so far? And what's the most underrated? Overrated, underrated?

Ozzin Jun: 28:10

I think that I would like actually share an advice that requires more context. So I've been heard this content uh this advice a lot, like be consistent. And I think it's an excellent advice because it is like literally the bare minimum to be successful at anything. But I also realized a deeper part of it that you know, consistency is something very good to start with, but there is a point where consistency alone isn't really the thing that helps you succeeding or just like working really hard. Otherwise, it'll be like I know so many women that work very hard, they're very consistent, but they're still not making the money. It requires like more depth and skill set around it, like, and that's like where, for example, where the messaging comes in and where you take the production level, the way you do things, like one step up in terms of the quality. And I think that I would say that advice is good, but I think people should view that as a bare minimum, and then from there really evolve like the mastery around being really good at solving this one problem for your client or mastering these one, two things where you stand out absolutely. That's where I would say is something yeah, I would like tell everyone like to focus on. Because if you're really good at solving things better than anyone else, like people will come to you for that, and you will be known for that one thing. And after you're known for that one thing, you can still be known for like 10 different things. And I think, yeah, Oprah Winfrey is also like a good example, you know, with her Oprah Winfrey show, like people think of her show, but she's doing other businesses. People don't know about all of that, and they try to do all at once, be consistent in all the areas. But I I think every advice that you receive, you always have to put it into context and ask yourself at what stage of my life and business does this apply? And I think that's kind of overrated, like underrated in terms of like you know, when people don't give the the context as well. And I think the depth matters and the timing.

Kevin: 30:08

I love that. That mentioning of timing and prioritization is like so important. Final thing, hardest question of the day or night where you're at. How can people find you and connect with you?

Ozzin Jun: 30:18

Yeah, so people can find me on LinkedIn, on Instagram, or Facebook. I'm on all the socials, just with my name, also in June. And that's it. You can reach out to me if you have any questions and ways. And then if you stay connected, you will also stay updated with my book, upcoming book next year, as well as the courses.

Kevin: 30:36

Boy, you know, as I'm looking back through my really, really, really bad handwriting. I used to be a drug dealer, by the way. I used to be a pharmacist, and I picked up really bad handwriting. But as I'm looking through my notes, a few things really, really stuck with me. First of all, you know, throughout your stories, I noticed this like energy of like courage, right? Everything from like dropping that 10k investment when you're in six-figure debt, that shows a lot about who you are as a person, and it's very inspiring there. The second thing that really stuck out to me too was this like deeper level of identity work and how important it was to your transformation. And I think uh a lot of times we talk about like, oh yeah, like the tactics and techniques and stuff like that. Or this like the strategy, but we don't really emphasize how important that way of being is. And then also your story that you shared earlier about uh your really downtime and something I think about that stuck with me was the resilience that you had during those times as well, and to keep going, even when you know things around your world probably weren't doing too hot. So, Ozin, this is just my really long-winded way of saying, hey, I appreciate your work. Your work matters, and just thank you so much for sharing your time, your stories, and your wisdom on this podcast today. So thank you so much.

Ozzin Jun: 31:51

Thank you as well. It was fun doing this interview with Podcast.

Davis Nguyen : 31:54

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