Building a Coaching Business with Purpose ft. Maria Kolesnikoff

In this episode of Career Coaching Secrets, host Pedro sits down with Maria Kolesnikoff, founder of Your Way of Coaching and a leadership coach, career strategist, and systems expert with 20+ years in HR and talent management. Maria shares how she transitioned from corporate life in Russia to building a coaching business in the U.S. after realizing traditional employment paths were no longer aligned with her future.

Maria breaks down how she supports leaders and managers through personalized, non-packaged coaching—focusing on clarity, sustainable behavior change, and systems that help individuals move from chaos to intentional growth. She also reveals how she built her first client base, why simplicity is underrated, and why not everyone actually needs coaching. From strengthening self-awareness to designing ecosystems for long-term development, Maria brings an honest and refreshing perspective on building a coaching business and empowering clients to eventually “fire the coach” because they’ve become self-sufficient.

Whether you're a new or seasoned coach, this episode offers deep insights into authenticity, capacity, and building a business rooted in value and transformation.


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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maria-kolesnikoff/
Website: https://www.yourwayup.coach/

Transcript

Maria Kolesnikoff: 0:00

First of all, before they become a client, we do have a first conversation, which is complementary to just to get to know each other, to understand what the expectations are, where the person is coming from, what's on their mind, and what is the goal they want to achieve. So then we can build a plan together on how we're gonna get there. And based on that plan, we determine how many sessions we need. I have heard that multiple times that coaches should offer packages. I honestly don't really believe in that. I don't like to make people subscribe to certain amount of sessions because I know sometimes they don't need all that and I don't want to squeeze them money out of them. So we determine the amount of sessions that we're gonna have on an individual basis when we talk during this first conversation.

Davis Nguyen : 0:46

Welcome to Career Coaching Secrets, the podcast where we talk with successful career coaches on how they built their success and the hard lessons they learned along the way. My name is David Swain, and I'm the founder of Purple Circle, where we help career coaches scout our business to $100,000 years, $100,000 months, and even $100,000 weeks. Before Purple Circle, I've grown several seven and eight-figure career coaching businesses myself and have been a consultant at two career coaching businesses that are doing over $100 million each. Whether you're an established coach or building your practice for the first time, go discover the secrets to elevating your coaching business.

Pedro: 1:17

Welcome to Career Coaching Secrets Podcast. I'm Pedro, and today's guest is Maria Kalesnikov, founder of Your Way of Coaching and a leadership coach, career strategist, and systems expert who helps professionals shift from daily firefighting to intentional, sustainable growth. With over 20 years in HR and talent leadership, she combines strategic thinking and evidence-based coaching to help clients gain clarity, build confidence, and create the structure that makes progress consistent. Her work helps leaders strengthen presence, design better systems for focus and balance, and align their habits with long-term goals, turning insight into lasting behavior change for both individuals and teams. Welcome to the show, Maria.

Maria Kolesnikoff: 2:10

Thank you for having me, Pedro. It's nice to be here.

Pedro: 2:13

It's great to have you, Maria. All right. I like to rewind a bit. You know, every coach has that moment where they look at their life and say, you know what? I guess this is what I'm doing now, right? So when was that for you?

Maria Kolesnikoff: 2:26

Yeah, I had that moment too, and was way back while I was still employed in corporation. I was ahead head of talent management. Things were not working smoothly for me at the beginning. And I was thinking, okay, I have tried everything in HR. Is there anything I have not? At the same time, I was somebody who would bring coaching to the organization to help executives to improve. And I'm like, huh, I wonder what how do they do that? So that seemed to be like a great alternative and the possibility to explore and kind of widen the horizon so that could be my profession. I did not know then that I will make it in my profession now, but I thought, okay, I'm gonna go and learn and explore. And I started in, I remember that my first day of training was January 31st, 2015. So and this is how we, you know, count years in coaching, starting from the year first training. And I start learning, start bringing that back to the organization, start working with managers, helping them to create their development plans. And coaching questions were so handy to help them not to stay on the surface, but really go deep into the root cause of whatever is not working for them, so then they can really work on their development. So that's how I started.

Pedro: 3:50

That's interesting. I know we were talking before the podcast as you came from Russia, right? So that's about eight to nine years that you're in coaching. And one thing that I would like to understand is when did it shift, you know, from I'm helping people to I'm building a real business around this now?

Maria Kolesnikoff: 4:08

That was easy. It was easy because um, so I started coaching in 2015, and then in 2017 I moved to US. And I was so sure that I'm gonna find a job because I'm such an uh I'm such a great employee, you know, I'm very talented, I'm always uh overperforming. Well, that did not happen. And I did not have anybody here, I did not have American experience, I did not have American education, nobody could recommend me. So I thought, okay, if I cannot find the job, I will create one. And I'm still there. So it's like, you know, we're looking for opportunities, but if those we cannot find them, we can also create them. That's what I did. And I never thought I will be an entrepreneurial material, and it turns out I am. It was a good and interesting and inspiring learning about myself that I actually can be creative, I can be risky, I can take risks, I can experiment, and it is so great to work for yourself outside of you know some corporate environment sometimes and not have a manager above you. So yeah, that since I started exploring that as soon as since I started building my business, I am actually enjoying that more and more. And it was great to prove myself wrong and expand the horizons and learn that I actually can do that, even though I thought I cannot. So that's the story.

Pedro: 5:39

I love the fact that you're the way you put it, you know, proving yourself wrong. It's like you're tapping into new territory that you you weren't even aware that you were capable of. And somewhat that relates to coaching, right? Some sometimes you talk to people, they're not aware of what's happening. Do you see that hap happening too often more than not?

Maria Kolesnikoff: 5:59

Yeah, I mean, I think coaching, coaching clearly is about increasing awareness, which is about seeing what you haven't seen, or debunking the limiting beliefs, because my belief was I am not an entrepreneurial material. I cannot be an entrepreneur, I cannot be a business owner. I'm only good as an employee, and I'm only good as a not as a first person in the business, but at least second or whatever. That was my limiting belief, and this is exactly what we're working on in coaching, trying to identify these thoughts and beliefs that actually keep you from moving forward. So, yeah, exactly.

Pedro: 6:40

You know, after and that makes a lot of sense. The trial and error part that I would like to dive in a little bit now is like because this resonates with your audience, you know, and it it is like this after you got it rolling, you know, who are the people that kept showing up? I know you mentioned managers, I know you mentioned leaders, but when we start something from scratch, sometimes we we see ourselves trying to embrace the entire world, right? So I'm not sure if that happened to you, but I want what I want to what I want to understand is the ones you realize, you know, okay, this is my crew, this is the the people that I'm gonna help.

Maria Kolesnikoff: 7:12

Well, quite honestly, focusing on leaders and managers was not the first idea. The first idea was, okay, I have decided I'm gonna pursue my coaching career, I'm gonna build business. Where do I find clients? Well, likely for me, I have been a in HR for a long time. So that means I have had a lot of connections. So what I did, I actually utilized my own network, just reaching out to people, my colleagues, my co-workers, and offering them to talk to me and see if we're gonna be a good fit. And I have had, like for the first couple years, I have been doing that and build my hours, practice hours, it build my confidence and build my expertise in coaching. And then after doing that, I sit down and thought, okay, what are the m topics that pop up the most? Who are these people who actually need that? And from that information, I was already understanding, okay, okay, so the most common questions people come to me with would be career and leadership development. And this is how I started, you know, evolving and leaning towards that. But it wasn't wasn't clear at the beginning. I had to really, as you said, trial and error, see what's there.

Pedro: 8:33

Right. I know I that makes a lot of sense because you're you're the first step is get in get in touch with people that know, like, and trust you, right? So you're not building that super, like how could I say it, that the super big plan of how I'm gonna reach leads this way and I'm gonna do this and that and that and use AI. No, it's like, hey, pretty simple, right? Let let's try to to to to talk to people that I already know. So sometimes we we lose track of simplicity. I'm not sure if you agree with that, but that that just struck with me.

Maria Kolesnikoff: 9:03

I mean, you know, they say old genius things are simple. So uh, I mean, the more complex it is, the harder it is to run with that. Um, and I guess I did not know what Nietzsche would want to work on. I did not know what's in demand. So it was really trial and error. And we did not have AI back then, it was 2017-18. It was before AI. So um that was the way to go. What I also learned is clearly, you know, in coaching, what we offer, we offer the personality, we offer who we are, and we offer a belief that we can help solve the problem because we have been there. Because and this is because we're relatable to people, and for that they need to know you somehow. And this is why um it's really I don't even know if coaches have uh can really use the cold leads to learn coaching. It's usually the reference, the and you know, getting in touch, knowing who you are, resonating, and then the coaching relationship works. So and the easiest, the easiest way to get things rolling was to talk to people who already knew me, right? Knew who I am, knew me as an expert, a professional, hopefully nice person too, you know. So but uh that also helped me to build my own professional confidence that I'm able to deliver, you know, like I'm able to create a value. So then I can go and like expand my uh visibility and get to know new people because I have a proven experience of helping people and seeing how they have progressed, how they have grown. That builds my confidence to then go and show up and be in the podcast like yours, for example. I don't know, does that answer your question?

Pedro: 11:03

No, it does answer. It does answer. My follow-up question would be okay, we know who Maria helps, right? She attempted you to know, like, and trust the people in their on her inner circle, and that started to expand, right? So I want to talk about something, it's a little bit of a shift, but it's like you know, marketing. How do people usually find you? You know, we already got dialed in leaders, managers, but how do they find you now?

Maria Kolesnikoff: 11:30

Social media would be the uh uh first way to say find me. So I'm um currently um staying pretty active. I consistently uh create content, I post, um, I have some a few workshops that I'm promoting right now, and I'm writing about that. But I also do networking, so I meet with people in person because the personal connection is always the best way because what I have learned is that people are more inclined to work with me when they know me personally and uh another thing that I'm doing, I am um getting more involved with the professional community too. I'm giving back to professional community, I'm engaging with uh several associations that are in HR industry, uh specifically talent development, because this is where my heart is. Even though I am a coach, I'm still very passionate about talent development and talent management. So that's another way for me to get involved to I do have mentees that I work with to help them to find their careers or find how they're gonna build their business. So all of that is about getting out, really, and getting people to see you and see what you're doing and what are you offering, and have a conversation too.

Pedro: 12:59

Okay, that makes sense. All right. I want to talk business for a second. Okay, you know, so people people find you, they resonate with your work through the workshop in person, you name it, and eventually they want to know what working with you actually looks like, you know. So everyone builds their coaching business a bit differently. So when someone actually becomes a client, Maria, what does that experience look like right now?

Maria Kolesnikoff: 13:23

When somebody becomes a client, well, first of all, before they become a client, we do have um a first conversation, which is complementary to just to get to know each other, to understand what the expectations are, where the person is coming from, what's on their mind, and what is the goal they want to achieve. So then we can build a plan together on how we're gonna get there. And based on that plan, we determine how many sessions we need. I know I have heard that multiple times that coaches should offer packages. I honestly don't really believe in that. I don't like to make people subscribe to certain amount of sessions because I know sometimes they don't need all that and I don't want to squeeze them money out of them. So we determine the amount of sessions that we're gonna have on an individual basis when we talk uh during this first conversation. So it could be one session, it could be two, it could be three, depending on what they want. But I always allow and encourage people to decide if they need more or not. So I'm like coach a la carte, so to say. So um and so we we um set the goal, we agree on the plan, and then we just work on that plan as long as they need me. Because you know, there is another thing that we say uh the goal in coaching is to actually fire your coach, not because the coach is lousy, but because you don't need them anymore, because you feel self-sufficient to address whatever you need to solve on your own. So that's kind of and if they want to fire me after s two second sorry, after two sessions, I'm okay with that.

Pedro: 15:04

Well you almost killed me with the after two seconds. But yeah, I I like that. I mean, but at the same time, your work seems pretty hands-on, right? You're having the sessions after sessions. So how do you think about capacity? So don't you don't stretch yourself too thin?

Maria Kolesnikoff: 15:21

That's a great question, and this is where um this is where the idea of workshops is coming from, because you know, individual coaching is relatively expensive, and sometimes people just don't know what they don't know. And sometimes coaching is not what they need even. Uh before they need coaching, they need to learn what they don't know, so then they can start thinking and digging deeper into how to improve. So having a group session with people where you explain what it should look like first. So people then can have an assessment about okay, this is what it should look like, this is where I am, this is the obvious gap. And how do I cover that? That we can discuss in coaching. But sometimes um, and I I also share resources and tools and approaches that people can apply on their own. So the idea is not to make people dependent on that, but to be resourceful and having all the tools and resources for them to figure out on their own. But if they need to go deeper, if they need to explore more, if they need to work on like a core or a value level, then that would be the coaching case. So we start with just learning, we start with this is what it should look like, and then you can decide do you want to go deeper? Then it is to then welcome to coaching. If you feel it is enough for you, it is enough. Because you know, it may sound controversial, but not everybody needs coaching. Even though we would like to have as many clients as possible, but not everybody's uh not everybody needs coaching, and that's okay. That's okay.

Pedro: 17:08

That's interesting. I mean, that's that's an interesting intake about structure, the fact that you're moving towards sort of a a group coaching, right? So it can impact more people, make it more affordable. That's interesting. Now I'm curious about where you're taking all this, you know, looking ahead, future. Where do you see the business going? Are you thinking about scaling, hiring, or is there a next step you're excited about?

Maria Kolesnikoff: 17:32

Well, yeah. I mean, my next step is having all these products that I'm developing and creating and also offer them in the corporate format. So the idea is I want to have those things available to people if they need that. I want to have them available in online version where we can be interactive and we can talk and discuss and ask questions. I want that to be available in a synchronous way, as if these uh courses are available on platforms like Coursera or LinkedIn, but also do that for corporate and kind of fine-tune that for these specific corporate needs if they there is anything specific they want to solve. Really have that, I don't know, and I don't think it's a funnel, but rather than an ecosystem where everybody can have their own place and space and have their needs met. I think and also with corporate, you know, there's um people more inclined to go through training or through development program if it is paid by their company, right? So then it makes it even more available for them. So why not give them that opportunity? We're all about opportunities, right?

Pedro: 18:50

So, you know, that's interesting. The corporate training and the group training that's something towards the future, right? And the corporate training, you know, I think especially that one, you know, whenever we're we're aiming toward the next chapter, there's always something that we're refining in the present, right? So I'm not sure if we're talking about the corporate training or the group training or whatever you're looking for, but what are you currently trying to improve or tighten up in your business right now?

Maria Kolesnikoff: 19:14

Can I just do one step back? Uh, because what I want to do.

Pedro: 19:17

Absolutely, please do.

Maria Kolesnikoff: 19:19

Because what I believe in is not just training. And what you have read in my bio and what I do in is I believe in systems. And I believe that training is not enough. I believe that just training does not create a sustainable behavior change. So ideally, you want to have a system that supports that behavior change that includes coaching, mentoring, pure circles where people are coming together and they support each other, they speak the same language, and where their managers are also supporting them, providing them feedback and allowing them to have the trial and error because they The skill is not built just by hearing about it. It is been by practicing it and that takes time and that needs a support. So ideally, that's what I'm talking about. And this is what I want to bring. Whether it's on organizational level or it is on the individual level. Just hearing about that is not enough. So some people can have and improve on their own. Some people can have that support through coaching, through mentoring, and this is what I'm offering. And if you go back to your next question, like what I'm trying to improve right now is that I'm I'm working on building that kind of visibility around that concept. So just hearing about something is not enough. It's about practicing and improving and assessing and having these trial and errors, and that's okay to have errors too. You know, it just makes us stronger. We should not be afraid of failures. We should use them as a channel.

Pedro: 20:57

Yeah, no, I love that. Right. I love that. The fact that even if you corrected me, you know, with the training part, it's like you're you're you're aiming towards transformational change, right? So when we're talking about training, I'm not saying that was my goal, but it sounds like we're talking about surface level change. And that's not exactly what you're you're trying to do here, right?

Maria Kolesnikoff: 21:16

Yeah.

Pedro: 21:17

I appreciate you. I appreciate you for correcting me on that. You're on point here.

Maria Kolesnikoff: 21:21

Okay, thank you.

Pedro: 21:22

So I got no no worries, no worries. We're just talking, just trying to understand. Um okay, that makes sense. You know, if you're you're aiming towards the next chapter, the the corporate, you know, I'm not gonna call it training, the corporate transformation and the group transformation. Is transformation good? Can we use that?

Maria Kolesnikoff: 21:42

We can use that, or sustainable change or behavior change.

Pedro: 21:46

Sustainable change. Okay, sustainable change. We're going with sustainable change. I like it.

Maria Kolesnikoff: 21:50

Okay.

Pedro: 21:51

Um, if you're aiming towards that, it's more than natural that you would like to put the word out there, right? Because that's exactly what you're trying to accomplish. So that makes a lot of sense. So, Maria, I want to switch gears for a second and do something a bit more fun. You know, not that this was not fun. It's just if you're down for it, I got a quick game for you. You're down for it?

Maria Kolesnikoff: 22:12

Okay, sure.

Pedro: 22:12

Okay, go ahead. We'll look at this through the lens of business investments, okay. Things like coaching, training, marketing, team, masterminds, you name it, you know. So it's pretty simple. And I like the trial and error, and that you're so upfront about it, so honest. So I'll give you four prompts and you tell me the first thing that comes to mind. If there's a story behind it, even better. Okay. So the first business investment you remember making.

Maria Kolesnikoff: 22:41

Paying for my training so I can get certification with ICF. It was a pretty uh extensive. So, but when I decided that I'm gonna become a coach, I explored and researched the market and realized that just coach is not enough. You need to be certified. But in order to get that certification, that's a lot of training hours and mentoring hours and practice hours. So I had to make that investment, which I'm really happy about.

Pedro: 23:11

And what's the most recent one you made?

Maria Kolesnikoff: 23:13

Well, right now I'm investing in okay, here's the thing. Somebody told me that before, and I really believe it's uh very important, and that is you should thrive on your strengths and outsource your weaknesses. So basically do what you do the best and let others take care of the rest. So there are certain things that do great, and I thrive in that, and there are certain things I'm just not good at. So, but we need to have the whole package to be able to promote and deliver and market. So my investment right now is that as I'm building my products, I'm investing in into everything I don't do to help me build that, like visuals, like PDF files, like landing pages. You know, I'm not very good at that, and I know I'm just gonna spend a lot of time, I'm gonna be disappointed with the outcome, and I'm gonna not use that time for coaching, which I'm doing best. So, and this is this is like this is my approach to business from the get-go. Focus on what you do the best and hire people to help you outsource things because you're gonna save time and you're gonna be happy with the outcome, and it will come together easier and faster comparing to doing everything on your own. And I know that a lot of coaches when they start, right? They're trying to be uh dick of all trades, right? Do everything on their own. And this is hard. So I think we should focus on doing what we do the best, and that's an investment. That's an investment to hire people to support you. It's I mean, the investment you need to invest money to earn money, right? So that's the way to move. And this is what I would really recommend to anybody. Think about what they you can delegate and outsource so you focus on things that you are doing.

Pedro: 25:07

That makes sense. Perfect sense. So best financial business investment you have made and why it's financial.

Maria Kolesnikoff: 25:16

Really? Uh I you know, I don't know. I guess whatever I can invest in my uh business and then have a revenue coming in flowing my way, that that would be, but I don't have like a specific investment, like I bought a property or something, so I don't have that example, unfortunately, but hopefully I will one day. So this is this is still something to come.

Pedro: 25:40

Okay. So last one. What's one investment you wish you could get your money back? Okay.

Maria Kolesnikoff: 25:49

Well, you know what? I I think I have been I'm not very risk uh uh adverse, so I have been taking risks before too. And that was a long time ago. My former co-worker had a business with her husband, and I happen to have some extra money, so she convinced me to invest in their company so they can um ramp up their operations. And uh I worked with her for a couple of years, so I thought I knew the best, but I mean I give them the money and they and then they they ghosted me. So I was like, okay. I wouldn't say don't trust people, but I mean I'd say you should be more diligent in understanding who these people are before you trust them with your money. So I guess that would be the um lesson here.

Pedro: 26:38

Okay. About the lessons, you know, and looking back at those, how has your approach to investing in the business changed over the years? If it has?

Maria Kolesnikoff: 26:46

I think I was I I guess I was trying to do things um a little bit on my own. I realized it's not working, so I decided that I'm not I'm gonna spend more money, or not more money, but I'm gonna invest money into building my business and I'm not gonna try to build a business without any investment. Again, you need to put money in so they start working. And this is like, you know, I think it was I think I read that you know that there is a book by Randy Gage. It says why are we um unhappy, poor, and something else, and how to become happy and rich and something else. So one of the advice is there was don't sit on money, invest that, let it flow. So as it when it moves, it goes and comes. You know, there is that you have to create that flow or the current of uh of money, they they should not just sit there. So um I'm trying to do that, make them move, span and earn, span and earn, not just sit there and just save, and that's it.

Pedro: 27:56

I love that. It's like energy, right? It's like pass it on to other hands. Now, yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Okay, Maria. And if someone listening wants to connect with you or follow your work, where can people find you and connect with you?

Maria Kolesnikoff: 28:09

People can find me on LinkedIn, which would be uh really my first and last name. I don't think uh there is another Maria Kalasnikov on LinkedIn.

Pedro: 28:18

The one and only.

Maria Kolesnikoff: 28:19

Yeah, uh, but also I have my website, which is called yourwayup.coach, or they can email me at Maria at yourwayup.coach. And I actually pulled up the name of the book that I was talking about, and it's called Why You Dumb, Sick and Bro, and How to Get Smart Health and Reach. By the way, I do recommend this book. It's really it's fun read, but it does have uh some good advices on including money and including building your business and you know, like taking opportunities.

Pedro: 28:50

So that would be yeah, I'm gonna write that down. And for everyone listening, I hope they do too. So let's check that out. And uh, you know, there were a few things you shared today that really stuck with me. I'm gonna point them out, okay? Like proving yourself wrong. I love that, you know, like that inner entrepreneur that you had that you not even you believe that it was there. So it's about practicing what we preach, right? You you inspired yourself, and I mean you've been there and done that for clients through your own path. So I think that's really powerful. I want to point that out.

Maria Kolesnikoff: 29:27

Can I add a little bit here? I'm sorry. Of course. Because I think, and I think it is um similar to any manager to you, or even any parent, it's like you don't ask people to do things that you don't do. That makes you a hypocrite, and that's the last thing I want to be. So if I challenge people, if I challenge them to make a change in their life, I need to hold myself to that standard too. So and this is where I'm always coming from. And sometimes I'm I'm ahead of the game and I have been there, but sometimes if I'm still hesitating, but I'm challenging my clients to do that, then that motivates me to also step up and do these things that I have been hesitating to do. So it's kind of this is how it works. Really, it's a two-way street. So I I don't come across or I don't want to come across as if I know it all. I don't. And I'm learning together with my clients. And as we work together, that also inspires me to create things. Like a lot of things that I'm putting into my workshops, they are coming from my work with clients. From okay, you don't know what job you want. Let me come up with a uh worksheet of how you can get clarity and what your dream job is. You don't know how to find your how to pivot in your career. Well, let me come up with a guide on how to help you to pivot in your career. How do you really understand what is your dream job? How you can what are the transferable skills, how you can tell the story about that. You know, that type of things. I'm I'm sorry I interrupted you though.

Pedro: 31:08

No, you didn't. That's great. I mean, it also makes a lot of sense about also the fact that you were so honest about the trial and error, you know. It's like you're really doing this, it's not like you're playing an act, you know. It happened to you, you're going through it, and it doesn't mean you have all the answers. It means you're going through the same sustainable change, you know, your wars that they are. So that makes a lot of sense. And I had a uh father, I have a father, he's still alive, thank God. But what I meant is he's a teacher, he was a teacher, he's in his 70s now. So uh he always told me, I learned a lot from the students, you know, and they don't even know it. They don't they're not even aware of it. So that makes a lot of sense, you know, with what you just said. And there's also the fact that you corrected me. I love that because when I said training, and like you said it yourself on the podcast, sometimes we're not even aware of it. I would just throw it out there, training, and you're like, hey, wait a minute, and that makes sense, you know, to from training to sustainable change because we're talking about not surface level change, we're talking about transformational change. So that I love the fact that you corrected me because even at this podcast, we're proving your theory, right? We're changing through the podcast. You're taught telling me something, I'm learning something new. So I appreciate you. Okay. I appreciate what you do and you being here and sharing so openly today. It was great having you, Maria.

Maria Kolesnikoff: 32:35

Thank you so much, Patter.

Davis Nguyen : 32:37

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