Bryan Daigle on Leadership, Growth, and Building a Life of Purpose

In this episode of Success Leaves Clues Podcast, host Pedro sits down with Bryan Daigle, a Professional Certified Coach, entrepreneur, and leadership mentor, to explore what happens when external success no longer brings internal fulfillment.

Bryan shares his journey from building successful businesses and achieving financial milestones to realizing that something was still missing. After experiencing personal and professional challenges, including divorce, business struggles, and a search for deeper meaning, he discovered coaching as both a calling and a path to transformation.

Together, Pedro and Bryan discuss purpose-driven leadership, redefining success, overcoming limiting beliefs, coaching entrepreneurs and executives, the importance of self-work, building meaningful relationships, setting healthy boundaries, and why true fulfillment comes from aligning your life with your values. Bryan also shares insights on coaching business growth, pricing, burnout prevention, men's leadership groups, fatherhood, and his upcoming move to Bali.

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Transcript

Bryan Daigle 0:00

Most of the coaches I've trained with at my original coach training program or other coaches that have been in groups, even one of my mentor coaches for a while don't do coaching anymore. And so I think this is a really important, a really important question for that reason, because these people aren't out there serving others as coaches because of something around often around finances. They either couldn't get enough clients or they were burning out. So one thing I tell when I'm talking to new coaches, one thing I say is, you know, charge a minimum of a thousand a month. Because if you're doing less than a thousand a month, it's not going to be sustainable for a client.

Davis Nguyen 0:31

Welcome to Success Leaves Clues, the podcast where we interview business owners on how they built their businesses and the hard lessons they learned along the way. My name is David Swain, and I'm a business coach and a founder of Purple Circle, where we help business owners achieve their first six-figure, seven-figure, and eight-figure year, all without sacrificing their quality of life. Before becoming a business coach and before founding Purple Circle, I started and scaled several seven and eight-figure coaching businesses and have been a consultant at several businesses doing over $100 million each, including some that are publicly listed and doing over a billion dollars each. In every episode of the podcast, you're gonna learn lessons that took our guests years to learn, and you'll be able to learn that in minutes. No matter if you're a new business owner or an established business owner, every episode is going to give you the clues in order to elevate your business.

Pedro 1:15

Welcome to Success Leaves Clues Podcast. I'm Pedro, and today I'm joined by Brian Daigle, a professional certified coach with an MBA whose 20 plus years across four different industries have been defined by one consistent choice: taking the road last travel with courage, creative, creativity, and purpose. Brian founded a man's leadership coaching group specifically for entrepreneurs, executives, and high achievers who either lack a vision align with their values or know they aren't fully living into the vision they have. Brian's coaching goes beyond professional performance, helping men become better husbands, more compassionate fathers, and more effective leaders by addressing the deeper alignment between who they are and who they show up every day. Welcome to the show, Brian. Thank you, Pedro. Appreciate you having me here. Yeah, great to have you. Okay, Brian. And uh by the way, I'm a kind of a comic book nerd myself, you know, so I love the first editions, the origin story, and all of that. Because at the end of the day, you could be doing a lot of things, right? It could be a chef, you could be a plumber, but here we are. You're a coach. Now, can you walk me through about that decision? What made you choose coaching?

Bryan Daigle 2:29

It it really starts when, you know, part of the story is I I had a business that I was running for 12 years, and I started coaching employees in that business and found out I really loved it. I would get goosebumps when I had those conversations. And so I found out, oh, this is really fun. So that that's part of the story. The other part of the story is that, you know, I in my early 30s, I achieved everything I I had wanted to achieve. You know, material success, a business that made great money and didn't run, you know, with me involved in the day-to-day, other people running it, and had the house, car, wife, and I still wasn't fulfilled. And so that realization, actually, I had an employee who was working for me who said, Hey, you're you're not happy here. Why are you why are you here? And you know, that that realization sent me on a journey. And that journey was, yeah, three years, four years. And at one point, I was at my low, going through a divorce, had a failed business with my ex, sleeping in a friend's storage room, pile of debt, and and trying to figure out what I wanted to do with my life. My other business was still running, I didn't want to go back to it. And ultimately, I had worked with coaches, I had hired coaches for my employees to see, and I was like, well, why don't I give this a try? And and honestly, coaching saved me. And the coaching program that I found it was a coach training program, but I had to do a bunch of self-work before I could coach others, and and that program saved me, and it's a a version of the program I still teach today and take groups of men through.

Pedro 4:04

Okay. Can you walk me through? Because you mentioned something very important, right? You mentioned that you realize you were unhappy. Okay. How one detect that type of behavior or something like, you know what, this is not for me? Because it sounds like you were going through some stuff and then you realize, okay, I need something different. But what what clicked to make that decision? And actually to understand you were unhappy.

Bryan Daigle 4:31

Well, one, the realization that I wasn't happy, just you know, achieving everything I wanted, but it not being the mountaintop I thought it was, which I think a lot of high achieving successful people can relate to. If I make this money, if I have this achievement, I win this award. And then realizing that that happiness doesn't linger as fulfillment or contentment. And what clicked for me, I just felt called to it. When I started looking into, okay, if I were to become a coach, what kind of training would I get? And there was a spiritual life coaching program that started the following week. It only started a few times a year, but it started the following week. It was down the road in Dallas. I'm in Austin. I was just fully in alignment with the message and the work. And uh, I just felt like all signs pointed to go this direction. And and I honestly just felt there was divine intervention and I was called to move in that direction. And only later did I see, you know, coaching is I I love coaching because first of all, I get to do a lot of self-work and then take that and help other people based on what I've embodied and integrated, right? And it's also the meeting place of all my past experiences and training and business and entrepreneurship and leadership and emotional intelligence and having uh high-level communication. It's it's the intersection of that and all the stuff I'm really interested in and mindfulness. And yeah. So I it's it just felt like yeah, it was the perfect place for for me to be. Okay.

Pedro 5:59

And let me ask you this here's the thing, right? I see on social media a lot of people there comparing their inner self to other people's uh uh exterior self, right? So it's not aligned, right? Let's put it like that. Do you feel or did you felt at that point that you have like that you were like playing someone else's or going through someone else's playbook of what success looks like and not that was not really your playbook, you know? You told me, oh, I hit a level or I hit a goal, and that I I didn't feel fulfilled, right? So does that mean that was not your goal at all? And you were trying to, you know, replicate something you've seen and you you understood that, oh, that's what success looked like.

Bryan Daigle 6:42

Yeah, great question. There were elements of it that I that were aligned with me, but uh with societal MBA conditioning, right? I thought, oh, this is what success looks like. And if I don't get here, then I'm not quote unquote successful. If I am not doing this, then I'm not a leader, right? Um and so yeah, I had to redefine what success was for me. And at the end of the day, it success was much more meaningful work, being able to do much more meaningful work, work that felt in alignment with my purpose, my new purpose that that I came up with. My old purpose was to create products and launch businesses, and I did that. And then when I lost that purpose, I had to create a new one. Um, and coaching is is in alignment with that new purpose. Interesting.

Pedro 7:31

Okay. Now I want to dive into a little bit of part that I really like, and which is something like an identity shift that happens from you mentioned yourself, your coaching employees actually feels like a calling. I'm helping people, sometimes I'm advice given and all that. But there is a moment for a business owner that turns out to be a coach too, when he turns this into a real business, right? And sometimes it's the milestone is the first paying customer, sometimes it's the first invoice, sometimes it's opening the LLC. I don't know, you know. But can you walk me through how that that felt like when you you you really felt like, hey, I am a coach and I am a business owner, you know?

Bryan Daigle 8:12

Yeah, you know, uh the coaching, uh the business of coaching is it's uh it's a hustle archetype of business, right? In terms of, yeah, you have to constantly be filling your pipeline, constantly be getting new clients, and there's there's churn, like inevitably, you know, people roll off, and so you have to find new people to replace them. I think for me, uh, you know, before the call, we had spoken a little bit about my first paying client, which was, I mean, I remember the day I was just I was dancing in the living room, like I was just so elated. I had made the ask, connected with this person, or connected with this person, made the ask, and they said yes, and it was like, oh my God, this is amazing. But I wouldn't say that's when it felt like a business. It it felt like another sign of, you know, like something from Paulo Quelo's Alchemist. This is like another sign from God that I'm moving in the right direction. So it's just like a little breadcrumb for me to take. But I wouldn't say that's when I felt like I had a business. I think I felt like I had a business when uh this this was about two years later, 19, when, well, I had met I have uh a former professor who's a mentor, he's an executive coach, and he had asked me at one point uh in my journey, early my journey, you know, what's your intention? And I said, Oh, my intention is to get clients. And he said, No, what's your intention? I said, to get clients. And he's like, No, that's your goal. What is your intention? And I was stumped. And he said, Your intention is to serve. And in late 2019, something clicked in me. I'd sat with that wisdom for a year or so, and something clicked in me. And I started doing this service meditation before each of my client calls. You know, I am here to serve them and in whatever way I can. And and my business doubled in a month. I think that's when I felt, I mean, I had like double the number of clients the next month, and that and that's really when I felt I have I have a business now, and I still had this other business being run by other people that I was not interested in, right? Just tried to stay as far away from that as possible. And it was really that that that change in mindset, change in intention to service, which allowed my business to grow, and then I was able to let go and sell that other business.

Pedro 10:19

I love the what's your intention question. And whenever you got that, that whenever that happens, I worked in sales too, right? I was a high-ticket sales closer for a business coach. And whenever I distanced myself from that material outcome, that's when things really click because you're not thinking, oh, this was a lost sale. You served anyway. You talked to someone, you went through a discovery. It was maybe that was not just their they were not ready or there are other circumstances that they didn't close, right? But if you're coming from that perspective, it doesn't feel like you lost something. You know what I mean? And that, at least for me, it always helped me in my mindset and all that. Now, I'm curious about one thing, Brian, you know, because we kind of established an introduction, who do you serve? But in the early days, after you got rolling, right? Who are the people that kept showing up? Because sometimes in coaching, we're trying to help everyone, right? Yeah. To make it to make it work. Now, that's the the the evolution from it. And the ones you'll realize, okay, this is my trend.

Bryan Daigle 11:20

Yeah. Yeah. I think it's natural for coaches starting out in the beginning. Honestly, just to say yes to everyone, you might have to do that to survive, just to like keep a coaching business alive or just keep putting food on the table and keep paying rent. And yeah, so sometimes you have to say yes to everyone. What I noticed is that I was in alignment and able to affect the most change in people who were like me, people that were, you know, executives, entrepreneurs, leaders, men that had achieved a level of professional financial success where objectively anyone could look in them and be like, oh, that person, yeah, he's he's successful. And had gotten to that point and realized they weren't happy, they weren't fulfilled, they weren't content, whether it was in their work, whether it's in their marriage, whether it was in their relationships, whether it's with their health. But ultimately that's that's the people that I kept resonating with the most. And it's not exclusively that. I have some women clients and and I have clients like young up-and-coming leaders that join my groups. But I'd say the ones, yeah, that that I've loved working with the most and that affect the most to change are are the people that are like me. And I get to help them with the things that I've worked on myself.

Pedro 12:30

Sounds like you're serving past Brian at TNO.

Bryan Daigle 12:34

In a way, I mean my metaphor is like I I crossed this bridge. I don't know if we ever fully cross the bridge, right? But I'm maybe a further along on the bridge, and I get to turn around and offer a lending hand, you know, a helping hand to someone who's trying to figure out how to start crossing that bridge.

Pedro 12:51

Okay. Now let's pretend I'm one of those guys, right? I'm uh an entrepreneur. I hit a ceiling, feeling kind of unfulfilled. I'm your ICP, I'm your ideal client profile in this scenario. First of all, how would I be able to find you, like marketing-wise, you know?

Bryan Daigle 13:05

Yeah. I uh so I make myself findable. I have some some great SEO, ask for referrals, do those basic things. So yeah, I'm I'm easily findable. I think, you know, this is I came into this podcast thinking about okay, what did I really want to share that was different? And I think for me, what yes, go out there and do the actions and try the marketing campaigns and try AdWords and LinkedIn and Meta and all this stuff, definitely ask for referrals, because that's how my business sustained itself for the first several years. But ultimately, it comes down more of what I was alluding to in that story about changing my intention, is that if I raise my mindset into a more positive mental state, if I raise my emotional state into a more positive emotional state, if I feel connected to my purpose and inspired, then magic happens. People come out of the woodwork. People find me on Grok, ChatGPT, you know, Claude, uh, uh Google, whatever it is. They just come out of the woodwork. And I've I've noticed this time and time again because I'll go down paths of, oh, I need to do cold messaging outreach on LinkedIn, and I'll give it a try. I've tried it three times and it never worked. It's never effective, at least for me. I don't know if if there's anyone successful out there doing it, but it hasn't worked well for me. And the moment this happened recently, a couple months ago, where I was doing another round of cold outreach on on LinkedIn and and had a conversation with my wife, and she's like, Why are you doing that? You clearly don't enjoy doing what you're doing, and that day I decided not to do that. And and the next week I got four prospect calls where I had had zero for like two to three months. So again, me changing my mental, emotional, maybe even spiritual state, right? Has um has been incredibly effective for me and attracted clients.

Pedro 14:51

Okay. I'm still that guy in this scenario, okay? And let's say uh I was referred to you. I Googled you, I croc told me to talk to you. Even you send me a DM on LinkedIn, and this time I answered. I was like, okay, this Brian seems cool, okay? I resonated with what you got out there, and I I reach out and I'm like, hey, how do I work with you? You know, we can fa fast forward the sales process. Let's just say there's alignment, okay? We talk or whatever that looks like. My question to you is, how does it look like to work with you, your company? Okay, and uh what are the outcomes I can expect out of it?

Bryan Daigle 15:26

Yeah, you know, there's different ways I work with people, and there's a variety of different outcomes. It really depends on what they're bringing. Again, some people, you know, some of the men I work with, they're very professionally and financially successful, unhappy with their job. All right. So I would say probably a third of my clients end up leaving their job and our work together and go on to find something much more fulfilling. I met with one of those clients last week and uh it was so good to see. I mean, he's been on a journey. He left the job he was unfulfilled with, tried to work at a startup, uh, where the founders were uh it was a little chaotic and not, let's say, an ideal fit for him. And then he uh left that and and went back to working with a former boss at a different company, and he he's so happy now, right? So that that might be the issue, or it might be something in their marriage or relationship or partnership. They don't feel connected, they're they're unhappy. Yeah, so the the results really depend on what the issues are, where they're noticing a lack of fulfillment, lack of contentment, you know, disconnection in their life. Yeah. And I have, you know, I work one-on-one with people who want to do that, and I have groups, men's groups, uh, that I take through the Heroes Journey program, which is my specific six-month coaching program. And so I give people some different options and just figure out what's what's in alignment with them. Okay.

Pedro 16:45

There's a quote in sales that is something like, sell them what they want, give them what they need, right? And I want in a coaching uh practice, sometimes it takes some time to for the relationship to evolve, right? Were there any occasions that you saw clients joining you or coaches, however you want to call them, that they joined for a reason. They're like, I want help with X, Y, and Z, and then and they ended up getting something entirely different. Yeah. And if you have any examples for me.

Bryan Daigle 17:14

Yeah, all the time. So I call that a head fake. And it's like, oh, you think you want this? Okay, let's let's work on this. And ultimately, what we ended up working on is much more powerful, much more deep. It's much deeper, it's much more impacting in all areas of their life. Yeah, I want to, I don't know, I want to grow my business, or I want to, you know, leave my work. And at the end of the day, we're working on limiting beliefs that were created in childhood, right? Or like behaviors that were created when they were teenagers, or um, yeah, self-talk that came from 40 years ago, right? So that's yeah, you you take your quote, your sales quote reminds me of the Steve Jobs quote, right? If you would have asked people what they wanted for another music device, you know, they would have said, you know, just another walk, right? And he he gave them uh the iPod, something completely out of left field. So I think, yeah, working, you know, they come in, clients come in with with what their issues are, what they think they're wanting. And my hope and my experience is that often we'll be able to work on something much, much greater in the scheme of their life, like something they'll look back on when they're 80 and and and be happy that they chose to work with me or chose that direction that they did. Okay.

Pedro 18:27

And on a more tactical level, because whenever someone tells me men's group, I'm imagining we're in the jungle, we're we're hunting. Yeah. So do you have like retreats or something like that? Because I I I always feel like that. This is always my I mean, I'm a goofball, right? I'm not I'm not the benchmark for this, but sometimes I I hear people like, oh, men's group. And then I'm like, nice, we're going to the woods. You know what I mean?

Bryan Daigle 18:53

There's value in the woods. There really is. Yeah. I I do leave occasional retreats um once or several times a year for uh for my alumni groups, for people that have been through my program. I'm actually me and my family were moving to Bali this summer. I don't know if I mentioned on our introductory call. We're moving to Bali this summer uh because we want to um we want to have have a big family adventure while our kids are young. And one of the things I'm looking forward to is having clients come to Bali and doing retreats there. And I I think there is something special. You know, there are men's groups where it's like, yeah, let's work out and do some coaching. And, you know, there that's in line with some people, and that's great. For me, I really love getting into nature. I think there's something about being in a group of men in nature without distractions that creates a realness, just creates unexpected experiences. Um, it creates challenges. I took uh I took a group of uh you know clients up a uh a 14 or a 14,000 foot mountain in Colorado this past summer. You know, it was yeah, it was incredible. And we use the whole hike and and experience as like a metaphor for what we find challenging in life, you know, the mountain that we're hiking up in life, and like what are the things that are gonna get in the way? What is the you know things we're saying to ourselves? Are we beating ourselves down or are we cheerleaders, right? For ourselves. So I I do that. I do men's groups occasionally, but most most of our calls are on Zoom. Um, virtual calls with the occasional retreat.

Pedro 20:26

Okay, nice. I was just curious. Now I I have a question for you, which is about uh a hot topic in the coaching industry and usually all service-based industries, okay? Pricing. But we don't have to talk about hard numbers, it's more about the mindset behind it, right? Because I see a lot of coaches out there going through that topic, and it's a very self-worth path, right? Yeah, it's like, am I charging too much? Am I not charging enough? I've seen people doing pro bono work and getting burned because they were like trying to validate themselves, but people are not showing up because there was no commitment and all of that.

Bryan Daigle 21:00

There's no scan in the game, yeah.

Pedro 21:02

So, how do you think about it today? And were there any lessons along the way that shape how you landed where you are, specifically about pricing?

Bryan Daigle 21:09

Yeah, great question. Um, because I think it's important. So, most of the coaches I've trained with at my original coach training program or other coaches that have been in groups, even one of my mentor coaches for a while don't do coaching anymore. And so I think this is a really important, a really important question for that reason, because these people aren't out there serving others as coaches because of something around often around finances that they either couldn't get enough clients or they were burning out. So, one thing I tell when I'm talking to new coaches, one thing I say is you know, charge a minimum of a thousand a month. Because if you're doing less than a thousand a month, it's not going to be sustainable for a client. And whether you charge hourly, you know, or or you know, two fifteen hours, four millions a month or a thousand a month, whatever it is, each client needs to be a thousand a month for this to be a sustainable. business because I think if you charge less than that and you're able to get a lot of clients great well then you're gonna burn out I've met a lot of coaches who yeah they have 50 60 clients right and they're charging them each $250 a month and and those people didn't enjoy coaching anymore they lost you know lost the the spark that led them into coaching in the first place so so that's one thought the other thought kind of around you know what we price at is how we value um it's it's kind of a an iterative approach of how we value ourselves but also how the marketplace and how clients val value us right and how yeah how the value that we're providing to our clients I mean right now with AI we can go on AI and get great advice right we can use AI as as a therapist and um and think what is going to have us as coaches stand out the most are the most human of our elements, right? Like when I get goosebumps when a client has a breakthrough and I get to share that well AI is never going to get goosebumps right so I think yeah you know doing yeah pricing in alignment with the value you're providing pricing what you you wouldn't be resentful for pricing. I've done that when I started out I priced too low and then I I found myself resentful for for those clients right so I think that that's something to watch out for. And I think the other, the third piece is do the self-work around money beliefs. There's a great book called The Energy of Money and it is the best book on on how to change your relationship with money. And I I've reread this book three times. I actually reread it or reread part of it a couple of years ago when my business had dropped by half and I had all these you know beliefs and parts of me that were coming up and I was saying to my wife you know should I quit coaching? Should I leave coaching? I I wasn't sure and I went back and did some work around my money beliefs and values and was able to find my way back able to fall in love with coaching again.

Pedro 24:00

Nice. I'm gonna uh jump on on a boat here you mentioned burnout right and I see a lot of coaches out there burning themselves out really because they're wearing all the hats right Brian they're the marketer they're the salespeople they're delivering the operations or the coach itself right so how do you think about capacity so you don't stretch yourself too thin how I think about capacity yeah I'm gonna give you a little example about myself okay yeah please I was in corporate I worked at banking and worked at consulting firm Arnes and young here in Brazil and uh when I clocked out I clocked out right I was like Sayonara friends and I just went home and I'm a coach too right and uh sometimes and I'm also the podcast host for Success Lead Schools and sometimes this doesn't feel like work right it's fun that's one thing I need to hold myself back but the other thing is like sometimes I see coaches like they're not considering the unbillable hours you know the business development side so how do you think about that how do you you you you know you hold yourself back or how do you organize your own mindset to not burn yourself you know yeah I think it comes down to I really liked how you said yeah having these conversations is fun that's why I love doing podcasts as well I walk away from the more energized and like oh that was that was a lot of fun.

Bryan Daigle 25:18

So it doesn't feel like work I that's the ideal right is when work doesn't feel like work. Work feels fun. And I'd say the same about a lot of my client conversations. So I think to prevent burnout it comes down to boundaries. So boundaries whatever all different we're in different situations. So but setting boundaries that make sense for you. Right. So that comes have two young kids so I have a hard stop at five during the summer of pickup you know at 345 or depending on the week um and I prioritize my family over my business. That's something you know so setting you know figuring out what the priorities are but also setting hard boundaries or like I just had a a group uh coaching group just wrap up and I after a month after we had our our final meeting closed the chat right so that's that's like another boundary. So I think there's there's boundaries you set with others there's psychic boundaries there's physical boundaries um time boundaries so finding ways to to set boundaries and if you start noticing resentment usually it comes back to a boundary issue. Either you haven't set a good boundary or someone keeps crossing you know and violating your boundary at which point that might be a time to say you know this has been great but this isn't working for me. I'll see you later.

Pedro 26:38

Okay I like that gotta stand your ground right now well first of all you have two young kids I have two young kids kids three and seven so I don't feel like a parent I feel like a referee most of the time okay there's that now talking about sometimes a wrestling referee yeah exactly now about by talking about that where I want to jump into future right we're talking about kids you mentioned Bali and all that now I'm curious where are you taking all this looking ahead where do you see the business going? What uh what's exciting?

Bryan Daigle 27:07

Yeah the first thing that comes up is you know I asked uh we went on sabbatical in Bali two years ago and and we fell in love and that's why we're moving there. It's inconvenient and you know you're on God's path when you're doing something inconvenient but still want to do it. So we're moving to this very inconvenient place on the other side of the earth with the worst time zone difference for having business hour calls, 13 hour difference to to central time. And so you know I I when I was in Bali and I had a meditation, I asked universe God, whatever your framework is I asked, you know, why why am I doing this? Okay, I'm in love with this place. We've decided to do this. Why am I doing this? And something that came up was I'm gonna get to find a new way of being I'm gonna get reconnect again to my spirituality re have a deeper connection to God. And then I'm gonna be able to take that back and and help people with that. So I'm I'm gonna grow just in terms of my way of being and my connection to God. So that's kind of the deeper what I'm looking forward to at a deeper level. You know in terms of business what does it look like what I'm hoping I want I have groups I have one on one. I want to increase the size of my groups so I'm I would love to launch some dad groups because that's been my growth edge I'm sure as you know uh that's it's it's tough being a parent and I've had to go back to therapy and go back to doing a lot of self-work to be less reactive with my kids. And so I would love to launch a dads group to be in support of high achieving dads who are noticing that as well. Also I'm gonna be in Asia Pacific time zone. So I'd love to there's a uh Asia Pacific Coaching Alliance I'm planning on getting connected with them and having some some clients in Singapore, Australia, Hong Kong where wherever they end up being and and continuing almost almost all of my clients transitioned with me to Bali. So that's something I'm really excited about. Um I only had one who who offboarded but it was because he felt really complete with our coaching and that's awesome. All my clients are transitioning with me and they're making small sacrifices too having calls at slightly inconvenient times for them. So I love that uh they they said yes and are supporting me and my family in this experience.

Pedro 29:18

Interesting. Okay it's almost like a partnership not clients that's great man I mean the relationship you'll build with them that means a lot I mean now I'm curious I I want to throw you one last question. Okay. Let's pretend Brian we have a time machine in front of us okay you can step in and you can go back in time and give one piece of business advice to your own self the past self. Brian when he was opening shop for his coaching practice what would that be?

Bryan Daigle 29:46

The advice would be the advice actually the advice that I took for myself which is work on myself before working on others. So do the deep healing self-work reconditioning stuff from childhood society authority figures rec you know creating bringing awareness acceptance to limiting beliefs self-talk behaviors and creating new beliefs self-talk and behaviors and and doing that work because I think you know by doing that you are going to make I I was able to make such a larger impact and able to connect with people in a much different way than if I had when I started my business yeah I wanted to have 10 one-on-one clients in the first three months. Yes everyone wants that right Pedro did you want that? Right? Everyone wants that and I'm I'm so thankful now that that didn't happen. That it was a slow growth curve for me because it gave me time to grow into a place where I could be ready to to serve others in a non-superficial way in a much deeper capacity. I love that man now it's totally counterintuitive to you know maybe the uh the rest of the the messages and that's you know I want to have a different conversation today so there it is.

Pedro 31:03

Yeah here we go right now Brian if someone listening wants to connect with you or follow your work and we're gonna have all the links in the description but what's the best way to find you and connect with you?

Bryan Daigle 31:13

Yeah my website Briendagle.com I am intermittently active on social media so I'm not consistent there but you can see my LinkedIn profile Instagram is next level brian or Brian next level sorry next level brian is Brian Adams the singer also I was like next level Brian I'm doing that right that's cool. Yeah it's Brian next level uh but if you want to follow Brian Adams you can go to next level Brian um so you can you can find me you can find me out there I'm findable.

Pedro 31:43

You're findable okay I like that you know there were a few things you shared today Brian that really stayed with me okay when we were talking about the story you mentioned you got goosebumps while coaching right like well there's something here right while while coaching employees right and later on the road down the road you mentioned oh I I felt called like it's almost like a calling something that is like deep deep in your soul that you're like dude this sounds like it is I gotta do this you know so I really like that. Also shout out to your mentor right that coach that asked you what is your intention yeah oh my God that is such a powerful question and sometimes I feel like I I went through some stuff like that. It's like we have surface slab answers to real deep questions like what do you want? You can ask someone down the street and ask them what their goals they will have a hard time telling you most of the time they're gonna say a car they're gonna say a house but dude do you really want that or is it really the material park or the things that are going to fulfill your fill your cup you you know that type of thing. So that question is so powerful. So kudos to your mentor and you too to giving him that shout out and last but not least and the advice right when you said work on myself before working on others and that ties down with my experience personally I don't have and with the parenting group and the reason I'm gonna brought this up is because I don't have a great relationship with one of my brothers and I have two boys. So sometimes it triggers me if I see them fighting you know because I'm projecting that they're not gonna have a good relationship too but that's on me right they have nothing to do with that. Right. But I have a hard time you know holding myself back to not overreact because sometimes I cannot accept the fact that they're fighting you know so and you know it's hard right it's so hard and and that's you know there's no change without awareness.

Bryan Daigle 33:36

So the fact that you have awareness means change is possible.

Pedro 33:39

Yes agreed a hundred and I have a wife that helps me with that that's helpful.

Davis Nguyen 33:45

Yeah supportive partners are a godsend yeah okay now this is my long-winded way of saying Brian that I appreciate what you do you know I appreciate you being here and sharing so openly today it was great having you thank you Pedgeo yeah enjoyed our conversation thank you for for going to the deeper places with me and letting me share counterintuitive advice so yeah enjoy our conversation that's it for this episode this episode as well as this podcast was brought to you by Purple Circle where we help business owners elevate their business to six seven and eight figure years all without burning out if you're looking to grow your business as well as get the time freedom that you are looking for visit us at join purplesircle dot com and see what we can do to help you end your business