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PrecisionCycle
The Whisper That Heals: ASMR as a Psychodynamic Tool for Defragmenting the Dissociative Mind
What if the next breakthrough in trauma treatment isn’t a louder intervention—but a quieter one? In this episode of PrecisionCycle, Enrique explores the hidden therapeutic potential of ASMR—not as internet trend, but as a clinically potent, neuro-affective modality capable of accessing dissociative material, metabolizing fear, and restoring inner coherence. Drawing from the work of Susan Sands, Bion, Bromberg, Schore, and others, this episode reframes ASMR as soft-tech for trauma—an architectural whisper capable of holding what words can’t reach. elevate.epo
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Bion, W. (1962). Learning from Experience
Hartmann, E. (2001). Dreams and Nightmares
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Bromberg, P. (2006). Awakening the Dreamer
Bucci, W. (1997). Multiple Code Theory
Ferro, A. (2008). “Super-alpha” Dreamwork (S.F. Psychoanalysis lecture)
Beebe, B. & Lachmann, F. (2002). Infant Research and Adult Treatment
Solms, M. & Turnbull, O. (2002). The Brain and the Inner World
Poerio, G. L., et al. (2018). Reduction in Heart Rate During ASMR
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Winnicott, D.W. (1974). Fear of Breakdown
The Whisper That Heals: ASMR as a Psychodynamic Tool for Defragmenting the Dissociative Mind
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[00:00:00] Thank you for joining us for another Precision Cycle by Elevate dot EP. If you're driving, perhaps wait until you arrive at your destination to listen to this, because we will be getting you hopefully in a very relaxed mood.
Thank you again for downloading this podcast. otherwise please sit back. This episode will probably be better with earphones, because it's on A SMR. So hopefully you have some time to sit back and consider this and precision cycle.
By Elevate dot epo.
Just listen. Can you feel That faint thrum inside you? Yes, that's it. You're not broken. Just scattered like tiny fragments of a very important picture. Sometimes what we need isn't breakthrough. Just a sudden jarring [00:01:00] jolt. Sometimes what you truly need is a whisper. A soft, steady architectural whisper guiding those pieces gently back together.
Today we talk about A SMR, but not as a YouTube genre, but as a potential modality to treat PTSD. When the mind forgets, the body, remembers, and tingles may be our way to bridge that communication gap. I'm Enrique. This is Precision Cycle brought to you by Elevate Dot epo. Let's open it up.
So what's this feeling? This autonomous sensory meridian response, A long name for a very specific sensation. It's that tingling, a gentle spreading sensation, often starting at the scalp. Then cascading down through the neck, the spine, a feeling of profound calm, a [00:02:00] kind of waking trance. Many people describe it, this curious, delicious response to very particular triggers, the softness of whispers, a gentle tapping, the precise rhythmic sound of a brush stroking.
Or the quiet crinkle of paper, a soft, repetitive motion. The science, the quiet, steady science is beginning to show us its depth. Researchers like Poro and her colleagues. In 2018 observed a measurable difference, a reduction in heart rate, an increase in skin conductance.
During A SMR experiences, this suggests a clear activation of our parasympathetic nervous system. That's our rest and digest system. The [00:03:00] opposite of fight or flight, our bodies. Literally calming down. when we delve deeper into the brain, Psalms and Turnbull, among others describe it, this subtle engagement with the limbic system, our ancient emotional brain.
It's not just noise. It's a very specific kind of signal, a key turning. Ever so softly in a very old, very important lock. imagine this a dream, not the loud, vivid dream. You remember the quiet ones, the ones that drift just beneath the surface. This quiet rhythmic process of A SMR has a profound parallel.
And how our minds work when we dream. Think of Susan Sands, A brilliant mind who spoke of dissociative [00:04:00] unconscious as a place of communication dreams. they aren't just random noise, Bion the profound psychoanalyst spoke of dreaming as an alpha function. A way for our minds to take raw, undigested experiences, all that emotional chaos and transform it into something digestible, something understandable.
Dreams are intersubjective portals. Those memories, too painful to look at directly. That's where they can finally find a voice, not a spoken voice, a symbolic one. They exist in metaphor, in imagery, in non-verbal processing. Hartman mod, they understood this, how our brains, our right and left hemispheres try to connect to make sense.
It's a language [00:05:00] of the soul, a language that whispers
A SMR as a psychodynamic tool, and here is where the truly profound connection lies. A SMR in its essence, mimics. This very same dream function. It acts as an external alpha function. Think of the rhythm, the predictability of an A SMR video, the gentle tapping, the consistent whispers. This predictability, this unwavering presence allows the mind to metabolize fear.
It creates a container. A safe nonverbal space where the mind can finally relax its defenses. Sure. A leading voice in neuropsycho analysis speaks of right brain to right brain [00:06:00] co-regulation. This is not about words. It's about feeling the right hemisphere, our emotional, nonverbal brain regulating itself.
By connecting with another regulated presence, A SMR can become that presence. For those who have experienced trauma, for whom narrative, the act of putting those stories into Word feels impossible, or even retraumatizing as MR offers a different pathway, a non-narrative safety. A way to experience something profoundly regulating without having to speak.
It's a parallel to san's dream field that shared relational disassociative unconscious where the work, the gentle work of integration can begin. Bromberg [00:07:00] speaks of awakening the dreamer, Allowing these fragmented self states to gently integrate A SMR provides that safe, steady invitation.
So the clinical hypothesis. Can A SMR be a soft tech, a gentle but powerful tool in trauma treatment, imagine its role in pre-session states. Calming the nervous system before deep therapeutic work begins, or post-session, helping to integrate the raw emotion that has been stirred.
Consider its use cases for dissociation. For complex PTSD, where the fragmentation is so profound for somatic counter resistance when the body itself holds onto the trauma and resists release. This is a new case of [00:08:00] therapeutic stimuli. Portable, modular nonverbal. You don't need to explain it, you just experience it.
We must reframe our understanding. This isn't just about feeling calm. it's about integration. Gucci's multiple code theory suggests our mind processes information in different ways. Verbal, nonverbal, A SMR helps bridge those gaps. Bebe and Lachman's work on interactive regulation, winnicott's profound insight into the fear of breakdown and the absolute necessity of a holding function. A SMR can provide a facsimile of that holding a gentle, reliable presence that allows the parts of us.
That fear complete collapse to feel safe enough to come together.
If you can't speak it, can you still feel it? [00:09:00] This is the core of trauma work, the narrative failure, the stories that are too painful. Too fragmented to form into words. A SMR offers unconscious validation. It whispers to the parts of you that couldn't be heard, couldn't be spoken, spoke of the unvalidated, unconscious, those experiences, those feelings.
That were never acknowledged, never held. A SMR can provide that first tentative acknowledgement. Imagine A SMR as a kind of proto dream state for our modern overstimulated minds. A gentle invitation to go inward, to reconnect, to experience through the other as sand suggests.
I invite you to explore this consciously what SR triggers truly resonate with you. What [00:10:00] sounds, what visual cues create that gentle tingling? What does it feel like in your body? What parts of you seem to soften, seem to respond, and what doesn't? There's no right or wrong. Only exploration.
Sometimes all it takes is someone who dares to whisper exactly where you're scattered, exactly where you're broken so gently that you begin to feel whole again. Thank you for downloading Precision Cycle. By Elevate epo. If this episode has resonated with you, please reach out at enrique@elevateepo.com precision cycle on Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, and TikTok.
We'll be back on Wednesday with another episode. If you'd like to start your precision cycle today. And get your summer [00:11:00] going on the right foot then DM and let me know you're ready for Precision Cycle. Have a great Monday and we'll see you Wednesday. Hopefully this has been helpful.
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