SPEAKER_00 0:19

Welcome to the Golf Club. It's your host, Jacob Bayback.

SPEAKER_04 0:23

Alright, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another edition of the Golf Club. We are back in three weeks instead of two years, Dave. There you go. Slightly shorter break this week. Slightly shorter break. And we are sticking to our claim that we might do six this year. David, how are you doing, sir? Doing fantastic, Jacob.

SPEAKER_02 0:40

Robbie, how are you? Great, great. Getting hopefully get some golf. Yeah, man. Bets and plays and ought to be in this week.

SPEAKER_04 0:48

Well, let's uh let's jump straight in. Uh it's been three weeks since we recorded. You said that it would be chalky, chalky, chalky at the Genesis. How did you fare out? Wasn't good.

SPEAKER_02 0:59

Well, it was almost good. I told y'all basically hinted that Rory was going to win. He almost got into the playoff with Bridgeman and uh Kedayama. Uh Bridgman had a what a five-foot knee knocker to win it. Uh he had the two-put from what 22 foot? And Jacob Bridgman was not on our card and not expected to win the Genesis at Riviera for his first time out there. Of course, played way easier than I assume, though.

SPEAKER_04 1:21

Yeah, um, but it was still a fun tournament coming down the stretch. Uh it's been fun paying attention to golf again. Yeah, absolutely. Same here. A little checked out last year, but I feel like I feel like we uh we were hot and heavy on golf, and then the blurb stopped, and I was like, you know what? The live stuff happened, and I forgot how fun it is to watch a golf tournament coming down the stretch. Uh, even with my kids in my ear, it was still fun to watch that tournament. Um, I think we got our first golf blurb hit on the PGA tour, the next tournament at uh the cognizant at uh Jack's Place in Florida, and also our first cool of the year. Nice. Yep, we got Brett Langry to kill Lowry. Um what a miserable that was miserable to watch.

SPEAKER_02 2:07

I never would have thought. I was following the odds, and um I actually did hedge a little bit on Lowry. I was scared. I had Nico uh Echeveria uh look like it was Nico's tournament to lose going into Sunday. Um he started off well. I think he had two birdies in the first four holes, and then uh Lowry missed some sharp ones early, and I was like, all right, this is this is gonna be it. Uh we're gonna hit hit on the PGA for this time this first time this year. And then Lowry just went on a tear. Um I think he made that that long one for Parr. Birdie first, then he made another long one for Parr on uh the par three, maybe. Um thought it was a definite, definite bogey. And then he sprayed one outright uh on the hole with the water with the par four, and he ends up making another 20-foot bomb for parr.

SPEAKER_04 2:52

Yep, and then the bear trap. The bear trap. It came up and snagged him. That was just like a whiff, huh? Three iron tea. It didn't cross. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:04

Didn't he hit the only T ball in the water? Yes, the whole week. And it wasn't even close.

SPEAKER_02 3:10

It was 50, 60 yards back of where he normally would have been.

SPEAKER_04 3:14

And if he only knew that a certain individual, he made a comment.

SPEAKER_02 3:20

He's like, I don't know. I just could not feel feel or find the face of the club. Yeah, on the back line. Yeah, like Angel's uh uh what's the outfit? Brett just came and screwed his club and just almost missed the ball.

SPEAKER_01 3:34

Unreal. Poor God. He thought it was something he did wrong.

SPEAKER_04 3:37

Yeah, in our in our pre-show in our pre-show prep, I found out that David Poinbell does not like uh PGA national.

SPEAKER_01 3:43

Oh, I I mean if you had good recall that we talked about that on the blurb. I've called it like one of the worst golf courses on tour multiple times in the past. I think it's terrible. I think the bear trap is a insanely gimmicky, just awful stretch of golf holes. That you know, especially you know, for that part of a tournament. Uh I mean it's like the 17th at TPC twice, but actually harder holes. Oh, way harder. You know, two out of three holes.

SPEAKER_02 4:08

Uh it's it's it's hard. Especially where they put that pin some days. Uh when you saw where Nico ended up, he thought he he hit that big cut, and um it was um who was playing with him? Uh Taylor Moore. Taylor Moore told his caddy right before he's like, Watch, Nico's gonna cut one in here and go for birdie. He crossed the hazard, hits it in the rough, bounces out to 12 foot, makes that birdie, and then the momentum swung. Um I I don't I don't particularly care for it. I would just want to play it one time. Actually play the course.

SPEAKER_01 4:36

Well, you can have it.

SPEAKER_02 4:38

I'll I'll play somewhere else down the road while you're gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_04 4:40

So the the pros, it sounds like actually really like the setup, but um I don't know if it's PGA national or the PGA Tour. There was a lot of uh dis a lot of disinformation last week or two weeks ago about the course setup.

SPEAKER_02 4:52

Uh Billy Horsho was very was complaining a lot about how soft it played, but um uh They had a lot of rain uh before they he he kind of said that they really couldn't do anything about it and that it wasn't the PGA Tour, it was the like you said, the actual country club uh people that were saying this is how it's gonna be, which is crazy to me. If if you get the PJ Tour to come in, I'm sure they're gonna make the decisions, it sounds like. So I don't know who was lying. I think Tron Carter with no laying up said Billy was full of shit. God, he is aggravating. I like yeah, I don't like any of those buckets all over the place.

SPEAKER_04 5:25

Uh he's a big uh lived hard, I think. Yeah, there you go.

SPEAKER_01 5:29

Not to go too far off on that.

SPEAKER_04 5:31

Those oils put I mean I remember a couple of really wild finishes over there that I really enjoyed. Uh Adam Scott won there one time, putting it in the water deep uh a few times. It's like and I guess it's it invites um it invites carnage down the stretch. It does. I I can see uh its place on the schedule now probably won't lend itself to big time winners until they fix uh fix the schedule next year.

SPEAKER_01 5:55

You know, if you think back, you know, ten years ago, it was a premier event. I mean, you had a crazy strong field. I mean, Rory and Tiger were always there, and uh Ricky, I believe, might have won their um No Ricky uh Ricky lost. Lost there, but yeah. It was a anyway, it was a top flight field and a big event, and it has lost uh you know almost all of its luster. And maybe it's you know, like you said, where it's at on the schedule, but I think they just don't like the golf course.

SPEAKER_04 6:19

The the f the famous Jimmy Fowler and the when he teed off with Jimmy Walker in the last group and was announced as uh uh Ricky Fowler and Jimmy Fowler. Yeah. Um and another heartbreaking Ricky shit the bed. Yeah. Good times. And then we moved to the API where uh Astray Batia uh gets it done. Yeah, that's Tiger's name for uh Okshay. I could say my nickname for Akshay, but it is not safe for children. I like Moss's nickname for for him, but uh we won't say that either.

SPEAKER_01 6:50

You know what I'm talking about?

SPEAKER_04 6:51

Um probably not. Uh that was another uh another cool disaster. Got on Berger early. Uh uh, I don't think he was on the I don't think we had the eventual winner, but um these pros the last three weeks they've just been hammered by uh one Brett Landry.

SPEAKER_02 7:08

Yeah, we launched Straca. Uh, thought he had a good shot uh going into the um final round. Uh they called play late on Saturday and they sent uh Berger, Batia, and a couple of others back out uh early Sunday morning. And what Batilla was two back uh minus fourteen for minus twelve.

SPEAKER_04 7:28

He was five back at one point making the turn. Yeah and then he almost jarred uh jarred that shot on the par five. Yeah, look at then Berger kind of fell apart.

SPEAKER_02 7:37

Yeah, I don't think he did anything wrong. He he just maybe played not to lose. Yeah, I I mean it's not like he shot over a par, I don't think, right? That T shot on 18 is gave everybody fits. Uh he tried that stupid little stinger twice and he couldn't control it. It ended up in the rough and he was 200 something back. Right. So he had to lay up both times. I don't know why he kept trying to do that. And then uh Batia almost got in trouble in the second one where he could have bounced the wrong way and he ends up in the water too.

SPEAKER_01 8:04

Only Tiger can pull off that shot from the left rough.

SPEAKER_04 8:07

That is a cool it's still a cool finishing hole. I think it's very difficult. The green seems like it's really tough to read.

SPEAKER_01 8:12

Yeah, and you know, and it and it's it it's a green where you can use the land forms to kind of work the ball towards the hole. Not a lot not a lot of guys know how to play that way anymore, and uh it's kind of unfortunate. I mean, you used to see that kind of more ball striking approach um in the past where they would or shot making approach in the past where they would kind of use the backstops on the left, high left, and let it feed down to the hole, and now they just either fire at it or play away from it.

SPEAKER_04 8:34

Yeah, um I was surprised. I I understand that it's a difficult golf course, but I was surprised to see as many pros say how difficult of a stop that is for them. Uh Rory commented that he was really surprised that JT decided this would be the tournament he came back to and shot 77 twice and missed a cut.

SPEAKER_02 8:52

I I did, however, play that golf course. Um yeah, I was surprised too. Uh Justin Thomas came back with the bad bat with the back surgery. Sung JM comes back after wrist surgery. They they made multiple comments. I think it was smiley, like, this is not the tournament I would have picked to go hack balls out of the rough. And JT complained about the greens and showed you, like he said, two seventy-sevens or whatever. And then um it was almost like Rory didn't want to be there either. I think Rory's only withdrew one time ever from a tournament, mid tournament in his PGA career. And then um it wasn't uh it might have been one of those guys asked him when he was rolling out uh if he was okay uh or if his back was really messed up, and he gave him the thumbs up and said that he was okay, but obviously he might not be okay. Right, right.

SPEAKER_01 9:41

Um Arnold famously would tinker with that golf course every year. He'd see where the weaknesses were, where they were scoring from, and then he would make changes to kind of take away that that opportunity from him. So yeah, it's you know, in its current form, I mean it's basically a major golf course from a difficulty standpoint, isn't it?

SPEAKER_04 9:58

Right. Right. And then um just because he's uh you know long-term golf blur blue uh golf blur boo, uh Ricky had his first top ten of the year and is within striking distance of the top fifty. I think if he's inside the top fifteen in the next two tournaments, he's gonna make the Masters. Which um I think is cool. And uh along with Jordan Speith, probably two of the more popular players that people like just get jazzed about following.

SPEAKER_02 10:28

Oh, you saw when Speeth lost that ball in the uh bushes and probably 16 patrons just went and and the the shot tracker said Speith, 282 yards to landscaping. I never saw that one on there before. And they had uh Twitter was full of just uh you telling me Jordan Speeth still don't move the needle. Look how many people's looking for his ball in this these bushes. I mean, nobody's looking for Seb Strachos ball. Right. Exactly, yeah. Right.

SPEAKER_01 10:53

It's just certain guys having X Facts. Yeah, and he's playing well.

SPEAKER_02 10:57

A little uh spoiler for the Masters. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 10:59

Yeah, I they both are actually. I uh Ricky's got a bunch uh top 25s, I think, to start the season. Uh I made a comment in our uh group text that when you see super skinny Ricky is when he's gonna start playing good. Whenever he like quits practicing as much, he gets pudgy and like his game sucks. Um uh another cool is uh Puerto Rico Open. Poor Blaze Brown got uh got got killed. Poor guy.

SPEAKER_02 11:26

I was watching that, man. And I the crazy thing, I had uh at going in to Sunday, I had the guy in first, uh Ricky Castillo, guy in second, Chandelier Blanchet at 125 to one, and then Matty Schmidt was in fourth. So I had first, second, fourth, I forgot who was in third in the way. It wasn't um it wasn't Daly or Blades Brown, it was somebody else who fell. Oh, John Parry from uh England, he fell off. But um yeah, first, second, and fourth, and I'm like, man, hopefully can catch this one. And then Blades Brown comes out, and everybody who listens to golfer knows about him, 18-year-old Phenom, um, shot multiple 60s, 61s uh on Cornferry tour. And I'm telling myself, you gotta be kidding me. I'm gonna and I've bet him before. I'm gonna lose to a freaking 60 on a Sunday in Puerto Rico in the wind to Blades Brown. I'm like, no, no, I won't. So texted Brett Landry. We got on Blades Brown for like 200 bucks. Next thing you know, the poor kid finds a bunker on the fairway, decides to go for the green, which it wasn't a it wasn't a hard shot like for a pro. I mean, 170 about a fairway bunker, no lip or nothing like that, and just rinse his one, triple bogey, guy got falls two shots back of the lead just like that. It was it would have felt bad for me.

SPEAKER_04 12:44

I think a golf burst special edition will be Brett coming on and recounting how terrible he is at gambling and some of the all-time great. He remembers some more than sometimes sometimes uh some of the all-time great dudes uh dying down the stretch.

SPEAKER_01 12:58

Yeah, but for those who you know don't know exactly what we're talking about, this is our buddy Brett, and he is like the Mariano Rivera of closers when you need to cool somebody off. You you bring them in and it's a shutdown, uh shutdown for you can't you can't make this stuff up.

SPEAKER_02 13:13

I mean, it's just an uh unopportune times, put it that way.

SPEAKER_04 13:16

I'm glad you brought up Blades Brownbury and uh uh Blades being 18 years old. This is probably the most watched uh counter field event, opposite field event, probably since they started the signature events or like probably getting rid of at the time. Right, the WGCs uh because they had like some really good sponsors exemptions. Uh John Daly, that kid that just committed to Florida State, I think, was in the field and played really well. Uh John Dale uh who? John Daly the second. John Daly Jr. And then Miles Russell. Oh, yeah, yeah. Wasn't he in the field? Or was he?

SPEAKER_02 13:48

Miles Russell was in the field.

SPEAKER_04 13:49

Yeah, he just committed to uh Florida State with John. Yeah, Daly was T1 at one point.

SPEAKER_02 13:53

I know, yeah, hitting drivers off the deck with a big old fat jaw in his lip. Yeah, he said uh he said he used to come to that tournament as a kid and watch uh senior as a um six, seven-year-old walk around. Crazy thing was, I'm thinking he's in contention. First time ever, he was obviously an amateur still, and uh John Daly wasn't there. He said he was in back at home in Arizona and um he wasn't gonna even fly out. He's got a lot of health problems.

SPEAKER_01 14:21

I think he's got like bladder cancer and uh I'm sure bad knees. Yeah, type two diabetes, if I were if I were a bad man. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 14:32

Um let's see, Rom wins for the first time uh in 18 months on Live, but I think what was pretty uh interesting this week was his battle with the DP World Tour. I don't know if y'all saw any of this. Uh basically they want him to play six events, and I just out of principle, he's like, No, I'm not paying fines.

SPEAKER_02 14:51

I'm not playing where you tell me to play. Yeah, he says he's gonna play four. He didn't want to go down to South Africa or uh Baron or other places they were trying to make him go.

SPEAKER_04 14:59

Right, but he's gonna play four anyway because he plays or he's have to play four more outside of the major.

SPEAKER_02 15:03

I don't know if it's the no, no, no, they outside the majors. Yeah, you can't. Oh, so he had to play four. Oh um then I think that I think he's kind of right. Yeah, they were gonna send him I I don't I think Rory made the comment. He's like, Yeah, John Rom don't want to go to South Africa next week. And uh Rome kind of shot back in in the presser and said, Well, that's not true. The people of South Africa are good, I wasn't like just total BS.

SPEAKER_04 15:26

A couple of weeks ago, Rory said that uh let's see how committed they are to the Ryder Cup. We made fun of or we we poked at the Americans for wanting to get paid and saying that we would pay to play, and now you've got an opportunity, and everybody else outside of John Rahm accepted the deal. Uh uh uh Terrell, uh Joe Kim Neiman, they all accepted the deal, and John Rom's like, oh he's probably got the juice to move the needle enough to where this is gonna get uh I think so. Or he accepts it after his court case is wrapped up. His lawyer must think that they're gonna win in uh in court in Europe.

SPEAKER_01 16:00

Is it like an antitrust suit kind of thing that he's fighting?

SPEAKER_04 16:03

Something like that. They're fighting the the legality of being fined because I think his contention is he hasn't really played anything that was opposite of uh he didn't need a release to play from the DP World Tour because every PGA tour player doesn't get one. Right. Uh that is a member of the DP World Tour. But we digress, we move on. He wins for the first time. Uh DJ's team wins the four aces, the four aces win, and DJ basically uh crapped on all of Live team golf because he said he didn't remember who was on his team the last time they won.

SPEAKER_02 16:34

Anthony Kim said DJ said they were going he was gonna buy him a team uh jet. I saw in uh uh Anthony Kim's presser. I want to say Kim made like three out of five birdies to basically seal it up at the end.

SPEAKER_04 16:45

Yeah, both uh both Tomasas played really well. I think they were like second and third. Yeah, Peter's and AK had I think a top ten. The chemistance continues. Yeah, I'm so excited. Me too. Me too. I want to see him uh win another couple so he can get into majors.

SPEAKER_02 17:00

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SPEAKER_01 17:06

So that this was their uh their last tournament before the Masters, correct? No, he's got two more. I think he's got one more after the first. Oh, I thought that was the the one this past week that Ron.

SPEAKER_04 17:15

I think he had three opportunities after he won to get in, and he needed to probably win two of them. Okay. I think I may be wrong. I'm not sure. We aren't uh we're not professionals here. We are amateur podcasters.

SPEAKER_02 17:31

It's an AK pod though. Okay. South Africa March 19th and 22nd. Yeah. March 19th through 22nd.

SPEAKER_04 17:40

Yeah, I thought he I thought they said he had two opportunities.

SPEAKER_02 17:42

Well, that's probably why Rory said that John Rome's not gonna like go into South Africa in two weeks, because that's where they at. And then Rom taking up for live was like, oh yeah, we'll it's not that it's live. If it was a DP World Tour event in South Africa where they've been these last three weeks, right, he definitely would go.

SPEAKER_04 17:58

Man, I I I really wonder if Rom is gonna if he's stalling to thinking he's gonna try and challenge his contract when Bryson leaves next year. If Bryson leaves, I mean What do they got left? Really? Exactly. I mean, other than other than AK, obviously, if he continues to play well, but like DJ don't care anymore.

SPEAKER_02 18:16

Well, before we came on, I was telling y'all that Brooks Kepka made the comment that um he would help any player trying to return to the PGA um member program with suspensions from Liv. Uh but he joked that it would be hard to get in touch with him because he changed his phone number, which he does every help or so.

SPEAKER_01 18:37

Just moral support? No, just got a show on the back.

SPEAKER_04 18:40

They finally probably roll out Rolap probably said, Look, I know we closed the window to try and force a few guys, but you know, if it's uh Cam Smith, Bryson, or John Raman, can't come off, come back. Gotcha. They need to uh if I think if they really wanted to get people back, they need to get rid of this uh they need to just go ahead and reinstate everybody. Do what you want from a fine perspective to let them come back. But the shit with Wesley Bryan, uh, which I think is completely it might they might have more to do with him being like a big YouTube star now than it is about anything else. But uh Kevin Na, Pat Perez, just let him come back. I mean, this is it's uh We know you we you made your point Brooks might be out hundred hundreds of million dollars. Don't let him do uh revenue sharing. Just fucking come back.

SPEAKER_01 19:27

I mean, yeah, that's and and look, that is completely player-driven. There are some players that just have a case of redass for what went down and they want to exact this penalty before they let these guys come back. And and what's crazy to me is that like it changed the complexion of the PGA tour where they're all making enormously more money than they would have had this live disruption not occurred. Um so why are you punishing people for making you multi-multi-multi-millionaires?

SPEAKER_04 19:53

Adam Shippick just released an article yesterday uh after Brian Rolap's state of the tour address, and I think Peter Jacobson and another senior tour guy were basically hinting that the rank and file of the PGA tour is upset that they keep letting these guys back. They're like, we didn't have a problem before. And I'm thinking to myself, yeah, you didn't have a problem before. Nobody's paying for your product anymore, though. Like it's becoming an increasingly hostile environment to get big name sponsors to do the the days of uh of 50 PGA tour events with huge purses is gone. Yep. So uh I do agree that they probably need a little bit of scarcity in the model. Uh it does sound like their the signature events are gonna expand. The the big purse is gonna expand. No, they're gonna expand fields and bring back cuts. Okay. But so but like it'll be 120. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So uh that's all good.

SPEAKER_01 20:48

Let's talk about Scotty Sheffler. Well, wait, most importantly, you just need to go back to calling him Ship Cook like he used to before we before we took a break. Because that always made me giggle.

SPEAKER_04 20:57

Well I don't know, I was mad at him for something. Uh let's move on to Scotty Scheffler. We uh we joked that he was like the most consistent bet on earth, just bet him for top ten, and uh you would have made a shit ton of money and he's finished 12th, 24th. I think just twelfth and twenty-fourth. I don't think he played.

SPEAKER_01 21:18

He just doesn't even know.

SPEAKER_04 21:20

Uh but uh it it was it must be horrible to be an automatic top twenty-five and people ask what's wrong with him. But uh Robbie, you have a reason of why he has struggled this year that's actually data driven, right?

SPEAKER_02 21:32

Well, I was just telling you before the show that uh he's switching drivers this week at Sawgrass, but um as far as his um approach, his he's been struggling on approach. Uh I think he's 57 stroke gain um Yeah, stroke grain approach. So far, so I I was watching last week. I think he missed like seven straight uh greens, and he I don't know, his tempo to me is kind of off. I mean, not that it was he's always been kind of crazy with legs and everything else, but he he just doesn't look comfortable out there. I don't think it has anything to do with driver, so I'm not sure why he's switching driver, but well at the Genesis he struggled off the T, so people were thinking that he should switch.

SPEAKER_04 22:08

Because he played well in the Bahamas.

SPEAKER_02 22:16

That's kind of what's been actually keeping him in those numbers we talked about, top twenty. Um I see him miss a green, hit it to like fifteen foot and then make a crazy par. So I don't know. I I don't I don't see him winning this week. Um I think maybe he'll be back around for the Masters, uh obviously, but I don't I don't see him top ten in this week. Oh wow, outside of the top ten.

SPEAKER_01 22:38

Yeah, and this has been a place he's played historically well. Yeah, he's gonna won twice and and had high finishes there as well. And um it's a place where you know controlling your golf ball is paramount, and so it should, you know, it should fit right into his game. But like I said, it's the data just shows he's something's off uh ball striker.

SPEAKER_04 22:56

Yeah, he was he led the led the tour in 2022, 2023, 2024, 2025, or maybe the 2022, 23 season, 24 and 25, and now he's 57th. Boo hoo, Crimea River. He's still an elite baller striker. 57th out of uh all them tour pros.

SPEAKER_01 23:12

It's hard to be Tiger Woods, man.

SPEAKER_04 23:13

Yeah. Well, that's the thing. Um it five weeks ago in our in our group thread, we were all talking about how you know he's got the best shot and then he's human again.

SPEAKER_02 23:24

Well, going back to that, I I still don't see anybody I still think he's gonna break Tigers world number one record of most weeks because I mean look look behind him, Rory and Xander, who's not playing really worth a shit, or or her Rory and Xander. You know, so I mean what we saw what it was gonna take to catch him. It was stupid. Yeah. So I mean somebody's gonna have to win.

SPEAKER_01 23:46

So you see him breaking breaking Tigers consecutive weeks? Yes. Or is it total weeks or consecutive weeks?

SPEAKER_02 23:52

Must be it was total weeks. Oh, is it consecutive? Total would have to be something crazy.

SPEAKER_04 23:58

No, total total is like 900 something. That's gonna be really tough.

SPEAKER_02 24:03

Okay, no, he's he's more than halfway to his consecutive. Okay, right.

SPEAKER_04 24:06

But it's still a couple of years away.

SPEAKER_02 24:07

Yeah, yeah. But I mean, I don't see too many people at this time challenging him. The gap between first and second was like bigger than the gap between second and like 50 something. Like it was something stupid. Yeah, it's crazy.

SPEAKER_04 24:20

Which is a nice segue to the players' championship. Um TPC Sawgrass, uh the the chatter coming in was uh Brandle made a big uh impassioned post that Dave can't see because he's blocked on all platforms uh about how he hasn't gotten my new Twitter broken. About how the uh about how the player should be the fifth major uh Kisner on foreplay, uh which I think is a really cool pickup for the guys at Barstool. Poor golf blur, but um they uh said that he doesn't think were we in negotiations for Kisner? No, no, but it just you know No for Fort Play. Yeah, it's still we had a better shot at Kisner on it still burns my ass that we started before foreplay and you know they have Barstool's backing and all that good stuff. Anyway, I digress. Anyway, Kisner Kisner on uh on foreplay said that screw the fifth major thing. Uh they should just market themselves that this is the best event that a player can ever play in. And yes, it's a great field, you're playing for great money, but like uh he went on to talk about how that hospitality treats you all week. They tour gives you everything you need. Uh so ditch the fifth major thing and just like continue to say that it's the the premier event that everyone should play in every year, and and that should be enough.

SPEAKER_01 25:41

Yeah, and they they try and revive this uh every s every so often. We probably went through two cycles of it on the original golf blurb. Um and and you know, what we said back then is is true now. It's something that, you know, when you do your Hall of Fame induction or your you know, when people remember your career, it's called out if you won the players, in addition to the majors. It's not a major, but it's also way more important than a normal rank and file PGA tour event. So when you think about Freddie Couples, he won one masters and two players championships. When you when you talk about um you know Tiger Woods has 15 majors, and I guess he won two as well. Two, yeah. Yeah, two players championships. So it's it's a special thing and it's something that's called out, but it's not a major. And there somebody had um I saw this week had said something. I wish I could attribute it to him correctly. Uh, but they were talking about Tiger Woods playing in the players one year, and uh he kept coming up short on all his putts because the course was wet and soft, and Stevie's like, why don't you just hit the putts a little harder? And he goes, No, I don't want to mess up my stroke for the Masters. That's not a major championship, ladies and gentlemen. There you go.

SPEAKER_04 26:43

Well, I think that was also uh decade ago. You know, they were trying to do it then. When Rob when Robbie didn't watch golf. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:50

They were trying to do this since the inception of the tournament. There's pre-Tiger and post-Tiger. It it goes back to this is this goes all the way back to the split between the PGA of America and the PGA Tour, what you know what used to be called the PGA you know tournament players division, uh, which became you know two separate entities, and they've been trying to steal the PGA championship's spot as a major ever since then because they don't control the PGA championship. Um that's why they created the President's Cup, kind of same thing. And it's just not the President's Cup is not the Ryder Cup, and the players is not the PGA championship. You don't have the legacy or the or the uh the history, and it's gonna take a very long time before you ever do.

SPEAKER_04 27:28

Yeah. Um this is uh also pretty fun because shocking. This is the first time that we've had a golf blur for the players' championship after I played the golf course in 2022. Four years, I think. Four years ago, huh? It seems like uh the was it 2022 or was it 23? I think it was 23 because I was in the job I made currently. Anyway, it was a long time ago. We haven't talked about it. What am what a fun place to play golf. I don't I was maybe uh because we played it in November. I was maybe expecting a little bit more, and I guess that's like playing uh uh TPC New Orleans. Is that what it is? TPC New Orleans? TBC Louisiana. Uh sorry. Uh like it it it doesn't look the same without all the construction around it. But uh I played like a really good round of golf over there.

SPEAKER_02 28:25

No, November 27th, 2022, because the Jaguars beat the Ravens by one and we had to leave the game early uh to catch the fight. But yeah, uh me and Jacob versus Braden and uh down to Bay Paul, and we played for dinner that night at we go to Orsay?

SPEAKER_04 28:41

I don't know. I don't know. We got to plot it on the room. I remember it getting uh expensive for the cards. We gotta we gotta plot it on the way out.

SPEAKER_02 28:47

Yeah, so uh me and Jacob took the ball and Jacob shot 70 something, 70, 78. Um we played best ball and we we smoked them. Uh that is my home away from home, Duval County. Um I've played sawgrass three times, so that was the third time.

SPEAKER_04 29:03

Caddy Jacob or 37 or 38. We had the better of the two caddies for sure. Uh I made like a triple on 10 and then was able to to to rebound on the back nine.

SPEAKER_02 29:14

Um I forget what we did on 17. Uh I think I made par. I had a double. I made par. I hit it left. I think I had two pars and a double on my three times playing.

SPEAKER_01 29:22

Braden gets a little too excited when he gets to go on field trips like that. Doesn't know how to rein it in. Uh oh Paul. Paul Paul said never again. Yeah. Oh. He he uh he doesn't prioritize performing well on the golf course, I guess is what I'm trying to say.

SPEAKER_04 29:37

Well, we got that. We got there before Robbie and them did. Uh Robbie Megan flew in late for whatever reason. So it was me, Brady. That was when Megan used to work. Oh.

SPEAKER_02 29:47

She won't listen to this. Don't be good. She has my voice enough.

SPEAKER_01 29:54

Hey, being a housewife is the hardest job, okay? I'll speak up for my girls.

SPEAKER_04 30:01

So we get there early, and uh it was still kind of like end of COVID rule, so it was everybody was pretty spaced out, but they have a uh they have a Robbie came in hot like 10 o'clock at night, but they have like a small green outside the bar that me and Paul and Braden got completely obliterated after the city. Yeah, like it's it's a half-wedge to it. Yeah, yeah. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, so we had a great time. Uh we took the girls over. We we drank at the in the clubhouse. I think that clubhouse is phenomenal. The bar is great. Um, better clubhouses I've been to around. It was a cool experience, soup to nuts, because the the range, I mean, kids brought it up on foreplay. He's like, name a better, name a better range than the range of TPC saw grass. You got everything you could want. Um you can hit the front, the back, they got targets everywhere, they got a uh world-class short game area.

SPEAKER_02 30:55

Yeah, there's a school too around the the actual players range, around the um there's two ranges, and then around the one in the back that I don't even think we had um access to. There's a little golf school deal with like a little simulators and shit like that.

SPEAKER_04 31:11

And I'm just not used to playing golf courses that are overseated with Bermuda. I guess it's Bermuda, but like the Rawgrash. Raw. Yeah, but like it was so green and like the grass was so fine. Yeah. Uh it was an excellent experience. I had one I would probably do again. Um but it would have to be the whole thing. You go stay at the property, the girls go uh get their uh massages and they meet you. They met us on the uh on the back patio, saw us coming coming up 18 uh as we uh uh laid the pipe.

SPEAKER_02 31:40

I'll tell you what, they're not hurting for play though. I remember the first time I played it, probably 2016, 17-ish. I think it was$325. I bet we play paid with the we did a play and stay, but the second time I played it, it was like$700.

SPEAKER_01 31:58

Yeah, I want to say it's like almost$900 today.

SPEAKER_02 32:00

$750-ish. And then we probably got out with a deal, maybe$575 because we stayed there and get you for the hotel, but you got to get a hotel anyway. So we think we came out with a green fee about$575.

SPEAKER_04 32:10

I think it was$1,800 for the weekend with the one round of golf and a$200 credit to uh to the spa for the girls, which cost you an extra$400 once they start doing add-ons. What really got us, what really got us is we went to the clubhouse and drank before Robbie and got there the night before during happy hour. So I get the bill for the first night. I think I got like a couple of rounds of drinks.

SPEAKER_03 32:35

I'm like, oh, this is uh this is well pretty much reasonable.

SPEAKER_04 32:38

Very reasonable. We go the next day when the girls are waiting for us to come up. That bill, holy shit, that was uh that was eye-opening. Um yeah, but all overall, really, really fun and uh a place I would like to go to.

SPEAKER_02 32:57

They do uh they do tours too. I actually been there four times. The first time I didn't play, and uh I was in jeans with an um ex-O lady, and we got to go in a golf cart, and they call them storytellers. And as these old men who retired, and they would just sit around. And if you visiting and you want to know, they'll take you in a golf cart around the course, say, hey, this is hole four. Uh the green got the big slope with the pin. This is where such and such famously made two on a hole out to I don't know, win 73 players or something. Then they'll go to like uh 16, 17, and they'll show you the whole course. Um, and then take you around the clubhouse and show you um Siwoo Kim's three wood and say, uh, this is his best club he used to win.

SPEAKER_01 33:43

Um this is like my future career. I love this. Um me and me and Danny are gonna move to the villages and I'll commute to be a Dave Pumba storyteller.

SPEAKER_02 33:55

Yeah, that was good to see.

SPEAKER_04 33:56

Tailor made for me.

SPEAKER_02 33:57

This was pre-Tiger, pre-Robbie Ho.

SPEAKER_04 34:01

You can tell we're getting back in the swing of things. I'm uh all the settings I use for the golf club are so screwed up. We got we got crackling and popping, and we were so excited. We're overdriving everything. This is great. Players we got back, baby, we got my back.

SPEAKER_01 34:13

I've been looking for my retirement plan, and and you know, things are just coming into perspective for me now. You'll see me line dancing in the villages on the weekends, storytelling on Tuesday afternoon. Love this.

SPEAKER_04 34:27

Love this. They don't line dance, Dave. It's all rap. Yeah, yeah. They had a video that's a big thing. By the time I get there, it will be like Dr. Dre the Chronic will be the uh they had a uh I saw a video the other day of this DJ like at three o'clock in the afternoon in the villages, just these old people just dancing, and it is trap club music with a bunch of 80-year-olds. Oh man, I'm all over. Blue pills uh blue pills abound. Looks like a Biza in the 90s, no cell phones. All right, all right. So who wins here?

SPEAKER_02 35:06

What what are we looking for this week, Robert? I think it's gonna be a little different than your normal uh players in March. Um obviously, since it got moved to March, you got low scoring, um, you got soft conditions. Um we haven't had any rain yet. Um, multiple players were talking about uh how they think it's gonna be harder. Um I know Is our rain gonna get there? I don't know. I don't think I wouldn't think so. Um that's gonna that's a long ways. That's a long ways for that front to get through all the way to Jacksonville. But I know we talked about those stupid videos with people dropping balls and roughs and stuff like that, but I don't know if they're gonna cut it. Um I they might cut it, but it's not gonna be like uh like you know when they drop the US open and it's big because Smiley was hitting yesterday, and I don't know if y'all saw that clip, he was on number four. Um, and that's the whole like I just talked about with water uh hazard cutting in between the fairway and the green with a severe slope. Um you basically if you're on the top and the pin's bottom left and you're on top right, you gotta turn your back to the hold in the wall in the water, and you're barely holding the ball on the green. You gotta basically putt at a 90-degree angle. It's pretty crazy hole. But point is if Somali was hitting out of that rough in that first cut, and he almost like he said his wrists were so sore out of the main rough, he couldn't even cross the water hazard. Yeah, he's got weak wrists anyway. Yeah, I think he did have wrist trouble that year. He um contended to master.

SPEAKER_04 36:31

That's what that's what chased him out of golf, I think. Yeah, he got big yips after his after he screwed up his wrist.

SPEAKER_02 36:36

But I think it's gonna play harder. Um, you I mean, we say this for a lot of tournaments, but um you gotta control your golf ball off the tee. You want to find the people who drive it the most accurate, and then out of those people, you need to see who's the best approach. Um if the rough is as thick as it is, typical Pete die course, shark games will come into play. Typical. Um, I don't think putting is gonna matter as much. Um, these greens are pretty true and pretty fast. We kind of talk about the same thing um with like the Masters. Uh bad putters can win there. I mean, obviously that's bent compared to this uh Bermuda or is Bermuda on the Greens now? Yeah, you were hybrids. TIFF TIFF TIF Eagle. Um Tiff Supreme. So, anyways, you're looking at you're looking at drivers TIFF. Drivers that can drive the golf ball straight and long. Uh I I'm not gonna give away too many of our picks, but uh I saw people, uh a lot of people on, and this is not guys I'm on, but uh Kyle Murakawa type, uh Luke Ludwig A Oberg.

SPEAKER_04 37:40

Um what do the models say, Robbie? What do your betting models say?

SPEAKER_02 37:46

I mean, like I said, I I don't I'm not going too chalky. Um I'm not gonna be on Scotty Arorium as usual. Uh we're not gonna be on Morikawa, Cantley. I haven't heard Cantley's name in a while.

SPEAKER_04 37:57

What is Adam Scott? Does anybody have the their uh betting at the end?

SPEAKER_02 38:00

I think he can get anywhere between 50 and 70, I'd imagine. I think I might lay some money on Adam Scott's.

SPEAKER_04 38:05

I kind of have him on my uh he's playing well, uh swinging well. I mean, he always swings well, but he's playing well. Um I think I might lay some money.

SPEAKER_02 38:14

I have a lot of a lot of long shots this week. I got uh one, two, three, four, five, six, seven guys in triple digits. That means a hundred and on. And then uh peppered the board with some mid-tier range guys.

SPEAKER_04 38:26

We need we need to post uh once tournament, once he tees off, whoever your uh small car play is. Once he tees off, so yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 38:34

I think uh I think Brooks Kapko's gonna do well this week. Uh so dark horse. Um, especially if the tournament does play harder, like I said, he's been trending the right way. Um he gained strokes putting uh a couple weeks ago.

SPEAKER_04 38:46

He played well and at the Honda.

SPEAKER_02 38:48

If he if he doesn't get in trouble off the T, um he did say 17 has been his nemesis. I think he had like a quad and a triple on it the last time he played, but that's when he wasn't playing a lot of golf uh when he had just joined Liv.

SPEAKER_01 38:59

So he'll actually get up for he's kind of famously, doesn't uh grind too hard and regularly.

SPEAKER_02 39:06

He's more open on his uh pressers too. I was talking about how much stuff he was saying. Usually he took kind of takes like the Bill Belichick mentality and just like I'm just here, not here to get fined. Who said that, Marshall Lynch? Uh but he's he's talking a lot. He's he's he's engaging. Uh he knows some of the stupid questions are stupid, but he he's engaging better.

SPEAKER_04 39:24

Well, I think I think all of those guys, uh DJ and him, especially, they got I mean, they lost a lot of uh that uh what they call that not PR status, um GQ status, not GQ status, I don't know what it's called, but anyway, the where a media thing looks at your marketability from uh um from your public appearance, like they their public appeal fell a lot from joining live and the way they talked about it, so he he has to come back kind of hat in hand, I think. Or I mean he did go through some really nasty uh personal stuff, and that can humble anybody for sure. Yep Yeah, uh I'm gonna probably uh try and root my my little boo thing on so he can make the masters. Uh this is just such a fun tournament to watch. I really wish, and I I think they've been doing more of it in uh in recent years, but the PGA tour Ludicrous?

SPEAKER_02 40:25

What are we doing there? Who doesn't like Ludicon? Well, I mean, we teased Live with the change smokers, and now we got ludicrous on 17's frickin' uh tea box last night.

SPEAKER_04 40:36

Well, I mean, uh Scottsdale does like a huge nest. Scottsdale. The people the people's open, the YouTube golfer open. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:45

I mean, I hate Scottsdale.

SPEAKER_01 40:47

Do you guys remember when they first did this whole revamp players thing and uh Tim Finchin had frickin' Kenny G playing saxophone at the trophy ceremony? It was the most awkward, horrible thing I've ever had.

SPEAKER_02 40:58

Did you see the new apparel in the frickin' ProShot? 17. They got jerseys for God's sake. Yeah, upside down 17s. Yeah, Jesus. Yeah, what do we do? Speaking of Braden, is heaven. But sorry, Jacob.

SPEAKER_04 41:12

I don't know where I was going. But anyway, I do know where I was going. Um if you want to continue to if you want to make the PGA's brand uh more marketable, PGA needs to go all in on uh media for this tournament. They control the they control the golf course, they control the property. This should be you should be able to literally, they've gotten more money than God. You should be able to watch every shot of every player the whole week. Does it have its own up like uh like the masters? Yeah, like US Open, the British Open. Yeah, but you can't even do uh like even the the Masters is like I guess the the pinnacle of uh of following, but they restrict access so much. Go in it's way delayed too.

SPEAKER_02 41:54

Yeah, that's drone, just get a bunch of drones everywhere. Marco Pinch, hole 17, round three, shot two. I don't even think they doesn't have two.

SPEAKER_04 42:01

That's what I want to see. I the minute, the minute they they shut down, the minute the final putt drops, they need to go and dig trenches and just run fiber everywhere so you can set up a camera, every frickin' just and make it the premier multimedia event you'll stadium. You'll kill Liv, because that was that's Liv's thing, like we show golf better. Yeah, whatever. And uh like you like you set the standard for and shit. At some point they can make it uh pay access and piss everybody off.

SPEAKER_01 42:29

Well, that's that's part of their problem when the app stuff is like all the tour calf stuff you gotta pay for, whereas the masters just gives it to you. Yeah, you know. Um so and I'm not paying for it. I'm sorry, I'll just wait.

SPEAKER_02 42:40

I just don't think there's enough people to to justify it that want to see what we just talked about doing.

SPEAKER_04 42:45

Right, but it just one time. If there was any place, if there was any place one time out of year C. Right, if there was any place that you should make the crown jewel, like if you really want to elevate it even further, then you make the viewing experience as pleasurable as possible.

SPEAKER_02 43:00

Yeah, stadium golf where the stadium course was built, right? Right. Yeah, to for this purpose.

SPEAKER_04 43:04

Right. 17's always fun. They got the big crane out there so they can do all the the cool stuff. Um I know in years past people say that 17 is too late in the round, Dave.

SPEAKER_01 43:14

Uh what do you think about the finish? Um if they're if they're trying to make it a major, yes, but I think it's perfect for the players, right? I mean it's it's you know it's the tournament's on the line, you've got to execute the shot, you know. I and I think that's pretty awesome. I love 60. I love 60. Yeah, they give you they give you an eagle opportunity right before it. And then, you know, 18.

SPEAKER_02 43:34

18's great.

SPEAKER_01 43:36

Yeah, it's yeah. It's a um, you know, they're so long now that um it's a shorter approach coming in for a lot of them. Um so it's it's not it's still a can be a birdie hole. It's a tough birdie, but if you hit a great shot, it still feeds it into that flag.

SPEAKER_04 43:49

Yeah, you know, so you just have to hit a really good T shot, regardless if it's three wood, two iron. Yeah. It's really it's still really tough to hit driver off the T on eighteen and with the tournament on the line. Especially if you have fader. Yeah. Yeah, because then you then you're blocked out of the woods.

SPEAKER_02 44:04

Right. Yeah. It reminds me of uh eighteen had fallen oak a little bit. Mm hmm. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's a it's called a a cape hole.

SPEAKER_01 44:10

It's kind of the template for that.

SPEAKER_02 44:12

So no how about number six, the stinger hole from TGO, where they put in that back T bo they put in that back T box. I know that's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 44:20

Did y'all get to play it when the tree was there?

SPEAKER_02 44:22

No, they put the they put the tree in the year after us, put it back, and then they made that makeshift tea box. That tea box wasn't there. Right. We used to tee all and no, we didn't play the tips, obviously.

SPEAKER_04 44:31

But uh vehemently refused to put vacation golf from the T.

SPEAKER_02 44:36

Yeah, but they they didn't have that tree there. Uh they just put it in, say we there was one historically and then it was they rebuilt it in 2023, the year after. Or 2024. It could have been two years ago.

SPEAKER_01 44:45

And it used to be the tree was a lot closer to the T than I think what they've got now.

SPEAKER_02 44:49

So it it was visually intimidating, but yeah, you didn't have to super manipulate the they're not putting that T box back there for maybe two days out of the four, and a lot of players are taking different, but it's a it looks a lot lower than it actually is. Right, right. It's a normal Daniel Berger stinger, like we're talking about. Like it ain't like everybody can do it, but it's right, right.

SPEAKER_01 45:10

Did you see uh uh your boy Siwoo? Yeah, yeah. He ain't doing that, but Ben Griffin.

SPEAKER_02 45:15

Well, he took the lower angle. Ben Griffin hit the high um kind of opposite uh Okshay, and he was perfect. I don't know if he's gonna take that uh he's just cutting off a lot of distance uh that way too. But I guess if it's wet, you cut and you can't really roll it out, but they probably go put it. The normal spot for it is basically under the tree, right in front of it, so it's not even in play.

SPEAKER_01 45:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 45:36

I think it looks cool.

SPEAKER_01 45:38

I don't mind that being there for them, Scott. All right.

SPEAKER_04 45:40

Make them hit a shot. All right. So let's pick uh uh season long golf blurb um competition, and we'll do either a dinner, a cheap dinner, uh or uh cheap dinner or or beers or beers at the uh El Burrito or beer or beer beers at beers after a round of golf, you know, since we stay after teabags events uh all the time now. Uh so pick a winner. Uh this plus the we'll do this, four majors, and the playoffs, and whoever has the highest aggregate finish. You're writing this down? Yeah uh well, you know, I will write it down. Luckily we're recording it. Yeah. Yeah. Um yeah, so let's do that. We'll we'll pick an highest aggregate finish from your one player. So Dave? So the other two have to buy dinner for the the overall winner? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:31

Oh, so we're just picking one player for all five events?

SPEAKER_04 46:34

No, one player each or each time each event. Yeah, but highest aggregate finish. So, like how they finish in the tournament, gotcha. We'll average that out to see who's winning. To see who wins.

SPEAKER_01 46:44

All right. I've got I've got a play for this. This is who I pick for for pole pool, so y'all probably already know who this is, but there's some analytics behind it. So this guy, uh, are you familiar with Greg DeShorm? Yeah. No. Okay. So he's some, yeah, some Yahoo on Twitter, then formerly known as Twitter. Oh, I thought you were naming somebody like that. Was uh 175 of the world. This is the the handicapper. Uh 720. Yeah. So he did a bunch of analysis of the last six winners, came from the uh came in of the week, top 19 in strokes green, teetogreen. So this kind of goes with what Robbie was saying earlier. Like every time Dave has done something like that. Oh, it's going to be terrible. No doubt, no doubt. And that could easily happen. Uh and then it was like he whittled it down, you know, with strokes gain total, you know, uh strokes gain putting, bogey avoidance. And and anyway, he whittles this list all the way down and he came out with Jake Knapp. So that's who I picked for Po Pool. That's who I'm picking for my winner for this first uh leg of the competition that you just sprung on us. Now he did WD last week. They said it was an illness, and it'd come to find out he tweaked his back, but supposedly he got the he got the rest he needed, he's good to go. And all the statistical analysis from Greg Duchorm, analytical expert that I've never heard of prior to yesterday, picks Jake Knapp, and that's gonna be my first guy.

SPEAKER_04 48:07

I just think he uh he was in contention at uh at the Genesis, and it like it it almost echoes what Shane said. His uh it's like he lost his iron swing. Yeah, but anyway.

SPEAKER_01 48:21

That doesn't happen this week.

SPEAKER_04 48:22

So anyway. He doesn't need to win, he just needs to finish high. And then he's gonna pick somebody else that finishes high.

SPEAKER_02 48:28

Uh Robbie. Um this week I'm going to go with Siwoo Kim. My boy, who's a former players championship winner, who has yet to not miss a cut. He's probably gonna pick a Siwoo for every leg of this. Zero miss cuts this year. He's he's he's a changed man. He he doesn't go after all kinds of crazy stuff. He drives the ball well, approach plays amazing, obviously. Um as long as he can get that putter rolling, chart game's good. Siwoo.

SPEAKER_04 48:56

I'm gonna pick uh Hadeki Matsuyama. He's playing well so far this year, and uh I don't know. It always seems like he's uh either in contention, like um out of nowhere, not out of nowhere, because he's obviously like in the top 25 in the world, but you don't feel like you're hearing him playing well, then all of a sudden he's just rolling off uh 13 birdies in a round or something stupid like that.

SPEAKER_01 49:20

Yeah, masters champion plays well in big events, so it's a good good play.

SPEAKER_04 49:23

Jake Knapp, Siwoo Kim, Hideki Matsuyama is who we're gonna pick. All right, let's move on to uh personal golf personal golf updates.

SPEAKER_02 49:32

Um, thank God. I thought we had to give all our four plays right now and look it up. No, I'm looking at it. No, we're gonna do it. We're gonna do it the week of it.

SPEAKER_01 49:41

Now we have to record for all the majors because we need to complete it. No, we said we would. We said we would do at least seven. This helps helps with the commitment.

SPEAKER_04 49:49

After after I move back in May, this might be coming every week at currents because you know, I gotta get away from my studio. They don't listen either.

SPEAKER_01 49:59

This is our wife gripe segment.

SPEAKER_02 50:03

Until one of them finds out and then it went from uh book club to mumjong to blur with the girls. Just sit around listen to an hour of BS. Yeah. Supper club one night.

SPEAKER_04 50:15

Did you hear what Robbie said about being? Anyway, um, let's see. Last time we talked about what we want to buy this year and where our games were. I was not high on my game, and then I go out and shoot 74 at the farm. So uh I'm really excited about golf again. I bet you are.

SPEAKER_01 50:35

That's a solid effort there, my friend.

SPEAKER_04 50:37

Yeah, I was pretty excited. That was uh the best ball striking I've had. I told numerous people this, but the best I've struck the ball in probably five years. That's all. I don't think I missed as an amateur. I don't think I missed very many shots. So that was really fun on a golf course that I'm not used to to score well in a teabags event. I didn't need to use my point buff until 18, so it felt legit. And I didn't I didn't need to use it on eighteen, uh point of fact. So that was a start to finish.

SPEAKER_01 51:04

Did you play that one or did you play your original ball? I don't remember. I hit them both good. Fair enough, though. I hit them both good. Yeah, to put everything out, so I think it offsets you know all the little gimme's that most people take in their rounds. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 51:16

And uh Dave, you got a lesson.

SPEAKER_01 51:19

Yeah, that's what what I said I was gonna buy this year was uh, you know, or before I bought anything, I actually needed to get a lesson. Um, and so you recommended the coach that obviously is working well for you with your 74, uh Thomas Wartel, former PGA tour player uh or mini tour player. I he he said he played with Justin Rose and and um Scott Hoke and several other people. So anyway.

SPEAKER_04 51:41

Uh he the dude loves to talk, but uh he told me a story about his irons. He played a program with uh Lee Westwood, and uh Westwood was like I I think they were joking that they're the only two people still playing these particular irons. And it was the obviously Lee Westwood's got a long time relationship with Ping. So it was an old it was old like Ping I2 or Ping Zing 2. I don't know. Yeah, I think Thomas listened to our last show. He might listen to this one and he'll text me what it is, but uh it's a really good I mean it's really good value for even though it's it seems expensive, the dude likes to talk golf.

SPEAKER_01 52:15

It's a couple of green fees to you know potentially you know hopefully take several shots off my my handicap over the course of a year. I think that's that's well worth it. It's cheaper than a driver or a new set of irons by uh you know, exponentially.

SPEAKER_04 52:26

Right, but it's not even an hour, it's longer than an hour.

SPEAKER_01 52:28

Yeah, yeah. No, I was in there for at least an hour and a half. Um and uh, you know, like I suspected it was you know something pretty simple that I was doing wrong, and and you know, that's what I liked. If he you know, there's a lot of teachers that give you like crazy amounts of data and you need to fix these eight things, and and I just you know I don't have a Which tended to be the teachers that you went to. Yeah, uh I've had you know a couple of interesting experiences, but um but no, this yeah, super simple. I mean it was basically I was lining up with my feet shut to the line and my shoulders open to the line. So you know my lines were really crossed there. So worked on getting my right shoulder kind of back, which you know brings everything into alignment. And then from there I was I was uh taking my shoulder uh in a my left shoulder in a downward position, you know, a downward movement away from the ball, which you know dragged drug my head down, it drug my my head out towards the golf ball. So that was moving all over the place. It really restricted my my back swing. Yeah. And you know, makes your follow-through super steep.

SPEAKER_04 53:25

Yeah, super steep.

SPEAKER_01 53:26

And I'll yeah, I had to make all these compensations, you know, swiping, you know, kind of outside in, coming across the ball, and obviously wasn't striking it very solid with my string of rounds in the 90s uh as of late. And so um, yeah, I mean, you know, from the first swing, and I, you know, I show I show I sent the videos to you and showed them the y'all before we started recording here. I mean, it was almost instantaneous, and obviously I have no you know, illusions, this is gonna take a long time to groove, and and um you know I definitely need a lot of reps, and there's a you know, next step in my in loading into my left side on the follow-through. But that one little adjustment um just made my my swing so free, and like once I get into a good position at the top, I don't have to manipulate everything. Uh I just turn through and it and it kind of puts the club where it should be. I I mean I went from being way outside of my plane to on plane in one swing. Right. And um I picked up like um 10 miles an hour in ball speed on a seven-iron.

SPEAKER_04 54:21

That's incredible.

SPEAKER_01 54:22

In one swing. Yeah. I mean, my seven iron's been like my one fifty club for the last several years, and my good ones, you know, when I executed in the lesson, I was carrying it 165, which is excellent. Insane to me. I haven't hit a 165-yard unless I like really went after it, you know, it was like a fairway swing where I just you know hit a big bullock.

SPEAKER_04 54:39

Um so you know, you actually get to use the technology in those fancy PXG clubs that you got. Yeah, there you go.

SPEAKER_01 54:45

Yeah, I hit yeah, I think I I told you that when I called you after a lesson. Like I hit the ball on the sweet spot a couple of times, and like I was like, oh, I have not felt that in in quite some time because I was hitting everything kind of on the toe, uh, swiping through to make room for my downswing, you know, with all that crazy stuff I was doing. So really simple. So he and I are like really jived. Uh, we're both actually found out natural left movers that play golf right-handed. Right. So, you know, I think he spoke my language. I it was easy for me to understand what he wanted me to do, easy for me to do. He gave me some drills that are, you know, basically making, you know, like uh baseball type swings with or you know, swinging with the club way up in there to level my movement and my shoulders out, and then you just kind of work your way down to the ball from there. So you'll you know, you might see some crazy stuff in my pre-shot routine for a while. So please bear with me. Don't make uh too much fun of me uh while I get used to it. Uh but anyway.

SPEAKER_04 55:38

Well, you won't be playing golf with Nolan Dumas for a while, uh, because he doesn't play golf anymore. Exactly. He would be the only one who would who would uh like take a video. No, other people give me shit. Who would no, but he's the only one who would take a video and then continually send it to a group tech for the next 17 years.

SPEAKER_01 55:52

He does love beating dead horses.

SPEAKER_04 55:55

Next uh next on the agenda is kidnapping Ben Martin and uh just dropping him off at Thomas.

SPEAKER_01 56:01

Yeah, handcuffed and make Merco great at golf again. Yeah, we got to have Merck back. We can't go without Merck playing golf. That's not right.

SPEAKER_04 56:09

Yep. So we got a teabag's events this weekend. What do you think you shoot? Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 56:14

Um so it's Audubon Park, Parsons. My best out there is is like 69. Um last year I didn't play very well. I think I shot in the in the mid to upper eighties, you know, for a par 62 course, which wasn't good. Um Yeah, I mean I you know hopefully hopefully I'll break 80s, shoot something in the 70s. Uh won't be good enough to to win my flight. But uh trying to work, you know, main thing is is is you know not worrying about my score and just trying to to swing, you know, make that adjustment and see where it where it comes out. So but who knows? I've I've I've played some good rounds there. I don't know if I put my first uh post-homas round in my gin.

SPEAKER_04 56:49

Let me see. Uh oh. I played the I played the sandbagging you. I played the island uh my first time out after a lesson where I really thought I I really thought he had like found something and I was stuck between two patterns and I think I didn't put it in. I didn't put it in. I think it was close to I think it was you just can't. I think it was I think it was close to to three digits. Oh, nice. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 57:14

So yeah, I so I don't have any expectations. Uh you know, I just want to hit the ball solidly and and uh kind of start ingraining that. I'm playing Friday afternoon too, so you know I'll maybe have some some uh preview of what what it might be on on Sunday.

SPEAKER_02 57:27

Robbie, what do you think? You shoot. I've only played one time since our uh last podcast. It happened to be with uh Mason Smith, uh the defensive tackle for the uh Jacksonville Jaguars. Uh came down to Ellendale, he's from Terrible. Uh me and Reno hosted him. Um I shot 84, so my three rounds this year 78, 84, 84. Um I am going. I I said I was gonna go buy some type of Garmin or Trackman device or something like that. Obviously not Trackman, but um I did not do that, but I did purchase the QI 4D, the new driver, after Dave sent that it was rated the best driver from 20,000 swings. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 58:06

Yeah, my golf spy.

SPEAKER_04 58:07

My golf spy actually gave uh a Taylor May product.

SPEAKER_01 58:10

The most wanted driver of 2026, and they have not like last year, I don't think they made the top 10 with the whatever they're well.

SPEAKER_02 58:15

The QI35 sucks. Yeah, it did. I know I didn't even buy that one, but I'm going to pick it up right now from Elendale. Sucks that we're playing Autoban, you're not gonna use it as much. And Audubon nor will there be a driving range where you can Autoban uh takes out the most irons in my bag, being that it's so many par 3s, which is my worst clubs in my bag. Um but I still think um with a couple of uh those part easier par fives, a couple driveable par fours. Uh my plan is to shoot 70, 80.

SPEAKER_04 58:45

You don't find that those par fives are easy. Maybe it's maybe it's the T shot. I like I do like both of them. I just don't find that they're easy. The greens are they're postage stamps. Yeah, eighteen eighteen's you can get to in two, but uh nine, that's a really tea tiny green to try and hit uh mid-iron into. Yeah, and it's uh guarded everywhere.

SPEAKER_01 59:05

Yeah, it's really perched up and it falls off hard uh and the back is is dead because then you're hitting back towards the water with you know, probably off of rocks.

SPEAKER_03 59:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 59:14

Man, I went I went to the range yesterday and and am still hitting it good. The one feel that I got is still kind of uh matriculating around. So I think I'm gonna break uh I think I'm gonna shoot in the 60s. Nice, that'd be beautiful. Yeah, yeah. I'm gonna continue the streak. I think I think I'm back. I think I'm back. And boy, when we get to the teabags championship, boy, am I gonna like me some of the things?

SPEAKER_01 59:38

There's a little preview of who Jacob's teabags championship pick's gonna be.

SPEAKER_04 59:43

I mean, I can't get any lower than a five in tea bags. I've been a five for yeah damn near six years.

SPEAKER_02 59:48

I think this is my third teabags event. So I I'm uh I need to play a couple more to uh be eligible for the championship. This will be my third.

SPEAKER_04 59:55

You get a little back thing for a while, huh? This will be my third T-bag. Yeah. All right, I think that's gonna wrap us up, guys. Uh follow us on all social medias. We uh we reactivated all of that stuff. Uh please like and subscribe us on iTunes or Spotify or wherever else you uh pick up your podcasts. Dave, tell the people goodbye.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:16

Goodbye, everybody.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:17

Robbie. I'll see y'all next time at a Masters, which I will be attending. What? Alright, guys, we'll see you next time at Golf Blurb. Thank you for listening.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:26

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