Episode Five: Opening Cutscene Pt 2

Join us for the exciting second half! We try to game and quicky go down a Metallica tangent. The news leads us into an Elder Scrolls tangent. Then it's Borderlands 4, collectors editions, and Game Pass games galore. And instead of deciding what to play next, we tumble from Myst to Minecraft to Matt Berry and Chris Nolan. You should probably get a notebook out to follow along.

Transcript

Intro and Tangents

SPEAKER_01 0:00

So for you folks following along at home, you know that the whole reason of these little talks is me and Andy get together to play some games. Uh, Supposedly. That has been falling a little to the wayside the more and more we record. Well, we took a long time. So after recording episode three, we technically played more of Warhammer. Did we? Yes. I was just going to say, do you remember any of that? No. I am 95% sure we didn't even make it to the next checkpoint.

UNKNOWN 0:55

No.

SPEAKER_01 0:55

That sounds about right. Now, granted, it was a really hard part. It was like a defend the base kind of thing. There was this swarm of monsters. We had to kill the nests. Does any of this remind you? Does nothing ring a bell? Nope. You have, okay. Yeah, that explains. I felt like I was on my own team for the most part. That's how I roll. So, yeah, it didn't go so well. And then, mercifully, you decide, hey, I think we need to do a... Move on to something else. Yeah. And then I think we played Beat Saber, which also did not go very well.

SPEAKER_00 1:31

But it was fun. It was fun. Well, I do remember we played Master of Puppets. We bought the metallic update. Oh, yes. Yes. I do remember I could literally play the damn song, but I could not play the damn Beat

SPEAKER_01 1:45

Saber. It was really hard. And I remember you... You would convince me you'll buy it, and then when we were waking up the next day and there was 20 bucks on my table, so I was assuming that was you

SPEAKER_00 1:56

paying for the deals. Yeah, because we've been debating about it probably for the last... Wow, three podcasts. It's

SPEAKER_01 2:03

good, but, like, you know, some Metallica songs are long. Yeah. And, like, I remember I did one, and I was doing great. Yeah. And then, you know, by, like, eight minutes through. And you're like, okay. It was a time-tempo change with the sixlets. Yeah, right. And I'm like, nope, nope. I'm

SPEAKER_00 2:21

not doing this. Believe it or not, drunk, Metallica, Beat Saber. Yeah. Not the easiest. It did not go so well. Hey, speaking of Metallica, did you see– Load is coming out with their own super edition. So yeah, I

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caught a headline and it was typical. It's hard to... I think sometimes it's hard to describe to the layman some technical terms of audio engineering.

SPEAKER_00 2:48

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_01 2:49

So I was confused just by the headline. It didn't make any sense to me. What I gather is they're using... Is it unused takes or is it unused layers? I don't

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know. I didn't look into it much more than just I saw a headline.

SPEAKER_01 3:02

They're using 146 tracks hidden. Oh, really? Yeah. I didn't see that. For those of you who aren't following along or aren't aware, me and Andy are both audio engineers. So I don't know if it was takes they didn't use or layers they didn't use or... They're remixing it, maybe? Yeah, maybe. That's interesting. Because, you know, I think that is one of the best mixed albums of all time. It's always your golden standard. I thought of that before I really got into mixing, and then after I got into mixing, I look back at it, and I'm like... It still holds up. It definitely holds up. All

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rock

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and new is shit. Yeah, great producer. Oh,

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yeah. You know, like... I don't want to drop a lot of money on it, but I am very interested.

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Yeah, check it out.

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Maybe I'll buy it, because I still hold true. I love those albums. I wish it was both Load and Reload.

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It might end up being both, because they're the same session. Yeah. I

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mean, it was supposed to be a double album. Yeah. At least according to

SPEAKER_01 4:14

Metallica. This is our first really true... Tangent. Yeah, we really went off. We said from the start that, you know, fuck it if we do tangent. Yeah, well. Can that be a verb? Yes. Tangito. If we tangento, then we're going to fucking go with

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it. We're tangiting. What are you going to do? Hit stop on the

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podcast?

SPEAKER_00 4:33

Yeah, you can't. This shit's already downloaded accounts.

Respawn

SPEAKER_01 4:39

You're already too deep. All right, all right, all right. All right, and man, it's time to back it up or rewind if you want. Last episode, we talked about dragon riding in video games. Yes, we did. I

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got to get this prepared. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 4:56

And you were talking about a game, and I insisted it didn't actually exist. And we said we'd touch base back about it. Yes. And so here we are. We're touching. We're touching bases.

SPEAKER_00 5:09

Oh,

SPEAKER_01 5:10

yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:10

All the bases belong to us. So this game did exist? It existed. It existed. I will admit I was getting two games confused, but the main game I was talking about was called Dragon Spirit. Okay. As described on Wikipedia. What system? What year? NES 1987. The original Nintendo. Developed by Nameco,

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if

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you're interested in the developer. Controlling the Dragon... I'm going to butcher this, and there's some nerd right now. Why do

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dragons always have insane names?

SPEAKER_00 5:51

Well, the funny thing is it's not insane. It's A-M-U-R. So I would say that as Amur or Amur. Amur. Amur. Roliar. I don't know. So you control this dragon, and it's essentially– this game is very simple, just basic– NES game. Yeah, it has to be

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simple. It

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was

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like side-scrolling?

SPEAKER_00 6:15

What happened? No, it was like the old top view. You're looking down on your dragon, and the dragon, you can weave left or strafe left and right and shoot shit with your dragon fire, and you get upgrades. It's like

SPEAKER_01 6:27

a top-down shooter.

SPEAKER_00 6:28

Yeah, but you're flying, like those classic flying games. I've never

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heard of this game.

SPEAKER_00 6:33

And that was one of the games I owned. And then the other game I was getting confused with. So you like morphed two games into one. Was Dino Wars. And Dino Wars was ahead of its time because it spelled Dino Wars with a Y. So it's D-Y-N-O. And then the Wars was not an S, but a Z. So that was like the thing to do in that era.

SPEAKER_01 6:58

So this is SNES era?

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Yeah, still Nintendo. Oh, still Nintendo? Yeah. That

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was ahead of its time then. Yeah, this

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was by... We

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didn't know the rad spelling until like the 90s, I

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thought. And this was a platformer for the most part. And let's see what they say. Oh, because you had said you got off the dragon. Yeah, this was a two-mode game. Oh, this is the one. Yeah, the player controls either Professor Proteus in his battle suit or Cybosaurus. A truly devastating Robo-saur. Oh, man. We forgot how to name shit, man. I mean. So you played either one. So some games you were the guy or some games or some levels you were the dinosaur. But you would jump in his head and then you would like control him. That was the theory. I mean. And if you want to know more, Google it because that's it. That's all you're getting. But that game was hard. Both games were really hard.

SPEAKER_01 7:59

Okay. I've never heard of either one of those.

SPEAKER_00 8:02

Really? Yes. There you go. You learned a little bit about dragons and dinosaur games.

SPEAKER_01 8:08

So that was a good revisit for

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us. They exist, although I confused them. You morphed

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the two together. Sorry. Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 8:19

Well, I guess it's time for the news update. Okay. Yeah, man. You're the newsman

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today, I think. I don't want you to air horn for the news, but you know what? Why not? Anything goes. So, I don't know if you were aware that this was even happening, but the Until Dawn movie came out.

SPEAKER_00 8:39

What the hell is that?

SPEAKER_01 8:41

You remember Until Dawn, the game?

UNKNOWN 8:45

No.

SPEAKER_01 8:46

Am I supposed to know that? So Until Dawn and then later the same– it was Supermassive Games. Then they made the Dark Anthology. They were kind of like choose-your-own-adventure horror flicks. I figured. It was like Scream, but it was a video game style. A bunch of teenagers. It was starring Hayden Panetta. Hayden from Save the Cheerleader, Save the World. Heroes? Remember Heroes?

UNKNOWN 9:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:15

You're killing me. You're giving me nothing, Ant-Man. You're giving me nothing.

SPEAKER_00 9:20

Let's go back to crushes because this shit ain't working.

SPEAKER_01 9:23

Well, she was very crushable.

SPEAKER_00 9:24

Okay. Now I'm in. Let's get

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in. Anyways, she wears a towel, I think, through most of the video game.

SPEAKER_00 9:32

Seems not very... You don't remember that? Like,

SPEAKER_01 9:35

wow. Anyway, so that's what it was. It was, yeah, choose your own adventure. You would... make choices and some of the characters will live, some of them wouldn't die. So for some reason, they made a movie out of that, which, you know, it's a movie. I guess it's just stuck in a time loop, I'm guessing. I don't, I actually, no one cares. By the time this episode comes out, the movie's- I barely care. The movie's probably going to be gone. Yeah. But, you know, we love in this show to talk about games that people never heard of that are in the works and then canceled.

UNKNOWN 10:08

Ooh.

SPEAKER_01 10:09

Yes, so apparently they were working on a Blade Runner game.

SPEAKER_00 10:12

Which

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would have been, I mean...

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Blade Runner is pretty cool.

SPEAKER_01 10:17

Pretty cool. Apparently there was a Blade Runner game that I don't know. Did you know there was a? I mean, I could

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picture

SPEAKER_01 10:22

it. Yeah, I mean, you know, Cyberpunk is pretty popular now. So, yeah, Supermassive was working on a Blade Runner game.

SPEAKER_00 10:30

That's the one with Han Solo. Yeah. Han Solo. Yeah, yeah, it was. But the remake is the only one I saw. It

SPEAKER_01 10:37

wasn't a remake. Remember, it was a sequel. Was it a true sequel? I didn't hear all this. It was a true sequel.

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I was late to the game. I watched it randomly one night and I was

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like,

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I love this.

SPEAKER_01 10:46

Yeah, that's really cool. But yeah, so there was a video game in the works.

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Licensed games. Listen to episode three.

SPEAKER_01 10:54

Yes. So something you didn't know existed is now no longer happening. Well, that's... That's the news

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from all those gamers. So everything is the same.

Elder Scrolls Tangent

SPEAKER_01 11:05

Yes. I've essentially told you nothing. Nothing. And you're welcome. I'll drink to that. All right, next up we got to talk about, and again, unfortunately, this might be like super old news for the rest of you listening to this, but the worst kept secret in all of video games for 2025 would be Oblivion Remaster. Wasn't that an epic moment? Yeah, I mean... It was funny watching... We've

SPEAKER_00 11:38

talked about

SPEAKER_01 11:38

this every episode, I think. Yes, I think we have. And it's been me. Yes. But it's funny watching... Did you watch the announcement trailer? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It was funny watching because, you know, it was pre-taped.

SPEAKER_00 11:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:50

So it's funny to watch, like, Todd Howard, like, be like, oh, like, excited. Guess what I'm releasing? We're like, yeah, we know. We know. We know. Get to it. Everybody

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knows.

SPEAKER_01 11:59

Get to it, Todd. I really... You know what? Watching that... I almost got it because it's on Game Pass.

SPEAKER_00 12:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:10

But that's what made me go back to Avowed. I'm like, no, I need to finish Avowed first before I jump on something. Dude, it looks awesome.

SPEAKER_00 12:18

Yeah, like if we're going to get really into it. Yeah, let's do it. That was one of my main things is I've reported on this every freaking episode, but I was blown away. by the graphics. It always holds a special place in my heart because I own Morrowind. I loved Morrowind, but I didn't have a PC that could play Morrowind. I bought that game with just reading the cover or reading whatever the description of it.

SPEAKER_01 12:45

Do you remember... You showed up to the Yellow House.

SPEAKER_00 12:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:50

For those of you not to know, that was my college residence, 2331 Jane Street, Southside. Still exists. Still exists. Somehow. Somehow. Did not fall to the ground after we

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moved out of there. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_01 13:03

Should have. Oh, my God. There's probably still enough alcohol soaked in the basement that you get drunk off of just being there.

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How many shotguns,

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right? I remember you showing up with the Game Informer to the Yellow House with the Oblivion cover.

SPEAKER_00 13:18

Thank you. That was my– and that's why I'm glad I gave the Game Informer's back. But that was like the moment. Like I was so stunned at the picture. And they just had a shot of like a chapel and there was like mushrooms. I always remember it was those classic like Mario mushrooms. I forget what they're called technically in the real world. But– I was like, this looks like a real game. It looks like a real world I could just explore. It blew my mind. And then Morrowind, I just couldn't really experience. But Oblivion was that moment where it was just like, here you are. Here's a world. Just explore. And I'll forever love it for that. Even though Skyrim on every level was probably better. And I think it's the better game. But Oblivion... was like that moment. But I do realize there was a lot of shortcomings to Oblivion. Because Skyrim improved so much.

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It wasn't quite, but almost a launch title for the 360.

SPEAKER_00 14:21

Yeah, and that was the other thing. I had money. I had a decent job. I could afford a 360. That would have been the first game where,

SPEAKER_01 14:28

yeah, same here, same here. I literally bought a new TV.

SPEAKER_00 14:31

Yeah, I bought a new TV for it. And I was locked and loaded, ready to experience it. It was like the game for me at that time. Do you

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remember? I think I've told you this before. You probably forgot why I... stopped playing Oblivion and never got very far in it.

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Yeah, you mentioned it, right? You got motion

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sickness. Motion sickness, because it was the first time... You were so zoomed in, sword and shield in hand, and it was the first time I wasn't playing on a 13-inch TV. I bought a massive, like, 65-inch TV. Yeah. Because suddenly I had all this money. I was actually an adult. Yeah, right. And yeah, I got motion sick.

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Yeah.

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That and the game, like you said, you could do anything, and I wasn't ready for that type of game.

SPEAKER_00 15:13

Me either. And I... And that's why I'm itching to get back because Skyrim, I was kind of ready for it. I did take a lot of sidetracking, but I didn't realize how much there probably was to that game. And I also got burned out from, and this was another thing I think people complain about, It was like the Oblivion Gates. I don't know if you remember the Oblivion

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Gates. No, the same exact thing happened to me.

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And I was still a little bit OCD, and I wanted to clear them all. But I think they were infinite. Well,

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wasn't it– it was clear them all, but you had to–

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Well, you had to go way up into the tower. Yeah,

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because I remember– so you found a hack to beat them by turning invincible.

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Yeah.

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And you could just– Run through it. And the same way I was– I had a poorly built character.

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Yeah.

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But my acrobatic stat was... And my athletic stats were through the roof. So it sucked for fighting, but I could do the same thing. I'd just run through the oblivion gate and close

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it. Yeah, that's what I did for a lot of them. But it started to become just play by numbers. It is. And I think

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you had to... Didn't you have to do something in every town to build up your army to beat the game at

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the end? I feel like there was something like that.

SPEAKER_01 16:24

Yeah, so I should say eventually I went back to Oblivion. So here's my progression. Here's my progression. I played Oblivion for a couple hours. I was overwhelmed by it.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:38

Slash... made me nauseous, so I stopped playing it. Eventually played Fallout 3, which then I got the Bethesda shit. So when Skyrim came out, fucking loved it. And then years after Skyrim, you had brought me on to the modded version of... Morrowind. Morrowind, yeah. And after that, then I went to the modded version of Oblivion. So I did the weird progression. Yeah, that was all over the map. So I eventually did play Oblivion. But again, yeah, so you had to bring all the towns, and I got bored with that. So that's why I'm excited now. There was three or four towns I never went to.

SPEAKER_00 17:23

Yeah, some of those towns are so distinct. That's what I heard. So I'd love to go back to them. That's what I'm at. Yeah. I do realize the gameplay is nothing like Skyrim, and there's going to be a certain sense like this is old. This doesn't hold up. But they did update. But they did update some of

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it. I clearly remember because, again, I played them backwards. So I remember going to Oblivion, and combat was just– there was no reactions. You just swung your sword until they died.

SPEAKER_00 17:49

Wow. Like Morrowind. How many times did you fight those flying

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fuckers? Oh, my God. Morrowind. Oh, it

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was just– yeah. They were like, wait, is it hitting? And then eventually you hear a– and you're like, oh, I hit it. You did it. Great. Oh, I'm dead. Cool. You know, but, yeah, so I think, like, I do realize, like, I'm going to go back and there's going to be moments where I'm like, oh, yeah, this is an old-ass game. This doesn't hold out. Yeah. But I do want to experience it again and really, like we said, Skyrim it. Like, really enjoy every little weird side quest because there apparently are a ton of weird– fun side quests and some of that has been lost maybe over the years and maybe because they've grown in size but I I it's I'm itching but I do feel like there might need to be a couple updates because some people some criticisms already like for the most part I think everybody's absolutely in love with it

SPEAKER_01 18:46

they so they redid a lot re-recorded a lot of the voice acting yeah that was cool but they didn't actually change the actual dialogue. Oh, okay. So, because you remember in Oblivion, there was like one guy that did most of the voices. Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so many of the races sounded exactly the same. Yeah, so they brought in new... They brought in voice actors and the different races, they all sound different, but they didn't actually change the dialogue. So you still have that quirky, weird-ass dialogue, which I love.

SPEAKER_00 19:18

Yeah. I mean, that's part of the charm. Yeah, and I think that's what everybody agrees is like the The charm is still there. And that's, like, you need to experience the game as it was intended. I think, like, some of the things that already, like, well, Hayley, my wife, owns Xbox Series X. And I started downloading it because she has Game Pass for a couple of days because I think she's going to get rid of it because we don't use it at all. And I was just going to try to, like, demo it. Already, even in the face, I was just making my character. Actually, I was literally doing this before I came over. And the beard, I changed the jawline of my character and the beard didn't fit around it. So there's got to be some updates coming. No,

SPEAKER_01 20:05

I think they're keeping the character creator as is to make all that janky, crazy ass, the weird looking... Yeah. So there's, like, things. Yeah, and that's part of the charm. Yeah, I'm wondering. So it's a tough call. Like, what's a bug? What's charm?

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Yeah.

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And that's going to be the.

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So, yeah, I don't know. But I do kind of want to get back into it because it looks absolutely stunning on some. I've seen screenshots that were like, is this really Oblivion or is this Avowed or some other game that's released? Oh,

SPEAKER_01 20:39

no, I will say it looks better than Avowed.

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Really?

SPEAKER_01 20:41

Yes, it does. Wow. And I thought Avowed is, again, I've always said

SPEAKER_00 20:45

Avowed is just fine. No, no, I mean, Avowed is like a working man's fun RPG, but yeah. It's all

SPEAKER_01 20:51

about Unreal 5 when it's all topped off,

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man. And, well, that's the big thing I think people are really waiting for is optimization. I think it's still pretty rough. Oh,

SPEAKER_01 21:00

okay, I can see that.

SPEAKER_00 21:01

And so I kind of was like, well, maybe I'm not in a hurry. Maybe they'll come up with like a light update where they'll optimize it a little better so that it doesn't, Run like shit on my PC. But I have pretty good specs, so I think I could probably run it okay. Yeah, you do. Oh, yeah. Well, Matt drunkenly made me purchase a weird laptop that I...

SPEAKER_01 21:23

Weird gaming laptop. All right. You love it. But it's good for our podcast. Yes, we're recording this on a HP

SPEAKER_00 21:32

Omen.

Back to the News

SPEAKER_01 21:33

Yes. So, again, if HP and or Razer would like to sponsor this episode... You should. Give me a call. Just yell my name in an alleyway. I will appear. So falling right through that line is now the rumors that there's a Fallout 3 remaster coming

SPEAKER_00 21:54

out. Ooh, really? We're going to get into

SPEAKER_01 21:56

that? Yes. That's all I'm going to say. That's all I'm going to say. It's like, yeah, just right into that.

SPEAKER_00 22:00

Fallout 3. Man, we could get into that, but we'll wait for that. Won't. Won't. Won't. Won't. Won't. Won't. Won't. Matt's going to talk like... Enoch's characters.

SPEAKER_01 22:11

All right, let's talk about something near and dear to both of our hearts with the just dropped. Again, not if you're listening to this episode, but if you're here in real time with us, the Borderlands 4 PlayStation State of Play trailer slash gameplay reveal. Yeah, a little more deep dive. A little more deep dive. State of play, as they call it. Yeah, the state of play. Fuck yeah, let's do it. Bring me this game. Me and you, we're going to play this game no matter what. Now we're even more like, here, take my money. You want$1,000? Sure.

SPEAKER_00 22:53

We'll come up with it. Whatever. We'll find a way. I'm buying the crazy figure with, you know, whatever. So wait, actually, yeah. Would you pre-order it? I don't see a reason not to at this point.

SPEAKER_01 23:07

Really? So... I'm torn because of the Assassin's Creed Shadows incident. I did not pre-order it, but I have a friend who pre-ordered it, and then it got bumped by six months, and then some of the pre-order stuff never happened. So we got a little bit of a refund, but it's just like, So back in the day, the reason to pre-order something was so that you guaranteed to have a copy. Because like I told the story before about Borderlands 1, I almost couldn't buy it because it was sold out. So that's gone.

SPEAKER_00 23:40

That's not happening anymore. That's not an issue because it's all digital. Even when they get it physical, I think it's mostly like a digital marker.

SPEAKER_01 23:48

Oh, yeah, yeah. You might get a steel book, but there's nothing inside of it.

UNKNOWN 23:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:52

And you'll get some bonuses, but they're usually crap. They're garbage. So I don't know. I just– I don't want to preorder something that's going to end up sucking. Yeah. You know, I go back to Cyberpunk. Yeah. Which eventually got good. But

SPEAKER_00 24:10

you're right. I guess

SPEAKER_01 24:10

when it comes to Borderlands, we're going to play it in modern, even if it gets terrible

SPEAKER_00 24:13

reviews. Well, that's where I always come to the conclusion. Like, am I going to play this? Yes. So I just– sometimes I'll be– I just like to be a supporter. Yeah. To me it's like about a support thing or if it has neat little like things you could get with it. Yeah. You do do it. So like you said, oh yeah, you get a shitty little armor or a shitty little gun. I

SPEAKER_01 24:37

regret not having the little claptrap robot that came with the pre-order of Borderlands

SPEAKER_00 24:43

2. Yeah, you could have a little claptrap running around. So yeah, I mean, I don't know. There's a lot that weighs into it. So I will have to wait and see. But Borderlands is arguably our favorite co-op experience.

SPEAKER_01 24:59

Yes, definitely. And yeah, from the looks of the new stuff they're adding.

SPEAKER_00 25:02

And so like maybe this will be one where I'm like, I'll save my money a little bit. And if it's like a cool, really like neat, like they provide a claptrap, random shit or something, maybe I'll go. Like I still have a dragon sitting in my fucking office from Skyrim. And that was my biggest purchase. was the Skyrim Super Edition, which came with the actual Alduin. I think it's Alduin.

SPEAKER_01 25:29

I don't have.

SPEAKER_00 25:32

But that was probably my biggest purchase, and that was back when we were like, fuck it. Yeah. I still have to ask my wife for permission, even though she'd be like, it's your fucking money. So, yeah, we're very excited now, especially after that preview. Yeah, I mean, that. Although I'm interested because I haven't looked at the Internet since it. Oh, no, we haven't. And I'm curious to see where all the hate. Yeah, because there's going to

SPEAKER_01 25:56

be hate. Yeah, where the hate is. Again, I don't think we remember all of it, but just a little shit. Now it looks like heavy weapons are their own category. Yeah, which is interesting. Just like they said on the trailer, I would never use a rocket launcher because I would save it for boss battles because I didn't want to put it in a slot. My other guns, I don't have room for a fucking rocket launcher. Yeah, a rocket launcher is always extra. Now if I could just hit a whole square

SPEAKER_00 26:21

or something, it just comes out. Instead of using a grenade, I'll use Yeah, then I'm so cool. Why not? That seems smart to me. Yeah, yeah. But somebody will complain about it. Because like I was telling you, we were going to talk a little bit about it, and I wanted to say it, but people hated their new, like, I guess they have a grappling hook. Yeah. And I was shocked because I was like, oh, that's so cool. Why hate? People don't like the fact that you have to pick a spot they designate. As a spot. They're like, oh my goodness, this is 2012 where you have to pick a spot that they designate. Do they

SPEAKER_01 26:55

realize that in a platforming-ish game like this, to make it just open to grapple to anything.

SPEAKER_00 27:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:03

That seems like a year of development. Right.

SPEAKER_00 27:07

Right there. I agree. That I don't care about. No. But yeah, you have to pick a spot that has a symbol on it that you can grapple to. There was so much. Wow. There was like probably a hundred messages. Like I go through, I'm a whore for going through all the

SPEAKER_01 27:23

comments. You should not.

SPEAKER_00 27:24

You should not. And it depresses me and I always regret it. But I'm always happy to see the people who are like, yay. So like sometimes it's fun. But- I was shocked that people said, I want to grapple to everything. Like, this is 2025. I should grapple to any object anytime I want, and I don't want to be limited to the only spots they designate. This feels like a 2012 game.

SPEAKER_01 27:48

There was a Louis C.K. No, not Louis C.K. I mean, it was Louis C.K. I'm sorry. Joke he told one time, and he was on an airplane, and it was– one of the very first flights to have internet. Because you used to not be able to do, you know, yeah. And right before, because it was announced how this flight was going to have internet, they got on there. The captain was like, hey, we just want to say this was one of the first flights that was supposed to have the internet, but it's down right now. We're going to try to get it working later. And people were fucking livid. They didn't know it fucking existed before they got on this plane. But once they were told that it was there but might not be working quite right, they were just like, fuck you. This is the worst thing ever in the entire world. The same thing. Like, all right, here's a grapple. It exists. It doesn't do exactly like what you want it to do. But, oh, my God, fuck you.

SPEAKER_00 28:48

Right. I mean, oh, my goodness. You have to aim at a spot to designate. My life is over. But I don't know. I mean, I guess that's how the industry grows is from all these weird-ass complaints somehow. I don't know. But I think overall, I, as an old-ass gamer, every single thing they said, I was like, I mean. It all looked like an improvement. It all looked good. I mean, we'll see how it plays out in the real world. I'm sure once it comes out, there'll be issues. Yeah. They're always very good for balancing things. Yeah, and, like, when you create, like, they had, what, all these different combinations of guns. Oh, yeah, the manufacturers. Yeah, the manufacturers. You don't have to use a strict torque weapon. You could switch out molo arts from another gun. And that could introduce all kinds of interesting.

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Yeah, I mean, the basis of the gameplay is the guns. And that's what we're about. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:46

I'm on board. And then they said the big thing we also kind of admitted was like... Oh, man, I forget. What did we say? We both agreed that the game... Oh, the legendaries. Oh, yes. Yeah, they down... I agree. By the time I started getting really high levels, I just saw legendary every single drop. And I was like, this is... And it spoils it. Yeah. I don't want them to be obscure as maybe one where you see... once in a million battles.

SPEAKER_01 30:17

But if you get too many of them, they become less

SPEAKER_00 30:19

special. Yeah, there's a balance there. Yeah, there is a balance. And I acknowledged it. And I think that was one of my bigger complaints.

SPEAKER_01 30:25

Yeah, I think this is all about like rarity is going to matter

SPEAKER_00 30:28

too. Yeah, yeah. So it'd be nice to see like each weapon have their benefits versus like, oh, green sucks compared to blue, blue. You know, like maybe they do have a little bit. Maybe they work that system out even. Like maybe you want to keep a blue versus a green or whatever. Green versus a blue. I think everything sounds on paper good. Yeah, we'll see the execution. You know what? We'll be there in September, and maybe you'll be with us.

SPEAKER_01 30:54

Yes, join us. Hopefully, by that point, I'll figure out how to broadcast shit.

SPEAKER_00 30:59

Yeah,

SPEAKER_01 30:59

that's

SPEAKER_00 30:59

probably the perfect game

SPEAKER_01 31:00

to broadcast. Yeah. But also, same Borderlands 4. They changed the release date.

SPEAKER_00 31:10

Yeah, there's the rumors. What do you think? It

SPEAKER_01 31:14

is officially bumped up two weeks. Yeah, I did see that. So that's not a rumor. It's happening. That's not the rumor. Randy Pitchford himself said on social media that it was not based on anything. But it's harder to believe it's not based on, again, it all comes back to GTA.

UNKNOWN 31:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:35

Everybody thinks that's the sign. GTA is getting released two weeks after it. Yeah, I don't know. I

SPEAKER_01 31:44

think early October, so they wanted to space it out a couple more. Space it out

SPEAKER_00 31:48

even more. Okay, I'm sorry. So, yeah, it's going to be released at some point after that. But they want to give more space. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 31:56

Again, they're owned by the same parent company, so it's hard to think of anything else. Yeah. We don't know. We don't know. Obviously, we don't know. So there were some indie games that were released the same week as the Shadow Drop of Oblivion, and they were just... I mean, they knew because of the not well-kept rumor, but it was still kind of a surprise. Not a surprise, but like a problem for them because one guy said he... Because I guess they can watch their sales by the hour.

SPEAKER_00 32:27

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_01 32:28

He said the moment that the video... From Bethesda stopped all sales of his GameStop for the rest of the day. It sucks. Because it's so rare for games to do this. Yeah. And I get it. It's hard scheduling things, especially for a smaller studio. You only have one budget. You can't change a release date like Borderlands.

SPEAKER_00 32:55

Yeah. Well, the funny thing was one of those games that was released– And it's doing ridiculously well. And I think it's right up your alley. And I was hoping you might play it. Was that... It was like Obscura 33 or...

SPEAKER_01 33:12

So, yeah, we're going to... We might talk about that in our next segment.

SPEAKER_00 33:15

Okay, sorry. I'm sorry. Because it sounded like something. I was like, wow, that's a Mac game. Yeah, yeah. Even though I have no clue what it is.

SPEAKER_01 33:23

There's a couple of those. We'll talk about that. Oh. Everybody's excited now. Well, I mean... Is that our end of our news, I think?

SPEAKER_00 33:32

Well,

SPEAKER_01 33:33

it was one thing... You do have a little news nugget.

SPEAKER_00 33:38

No, I have no news. Oh, yeah. This isn't news. But let's see. I got to pull up my phone. Sorry, folks. Oh, look at us. So I haven't played Kingdom Come in a long, long time. Oh, Deliverance. Deliverance 2. But did you hear they just released an update? This isn't kind of news-ish, but I don't know where else to fit it in. Okay. But they included a hardcore mode. Wait, I thought the entire game was a

SPEAKER_01 34:08

hardcore

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mode. Exactly. So this is a true hardcore

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mode. I have a feeling what you're about to tell me might be outlawed in certain countries.

SPEAKER_00 34:19

It should be. Because I was kind of... I have no interest in hardcore mode because, like Matt said, the original game is pretty hardcore. So I just wanted to go over a little bit because it just was a little ridiculous. Oh, my God. This is for real.

SPEAKER_01 34:36

This wasn't April

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1st.

SPEAKER_01 34:37

No,

SPEAKER_00 34:38

this is like people wanted this. They requested this, and they put it in like, after release, we're going to work on this and release this. What's wrong

SPEAKER_01 34:47

with you people?

SPEAKER_00 34:48

Yeah. Well, let's just go over a few of them. I'm not going to read them all. So like one is bad back. Due to your bad back, your carrying capacity is 50% lower. Is that from an injury like during combat? Well, it's just like it's a perk. So you have to choose perks. Well, in this case, they're not perks. But these are things you have to choose. So with that, you also don't have access to map. Well, the map is stagnant. Like it's just a real map. You don't see where you are relative to anything in the map. You have no clue where you are on that map. And nothing else updates. No. So it's just a map. I did raise that. So like with a bad back, you don't carry as much stuff. There's like bashful... Hangry Henry, so you're always, hunger is starving, reduces your speech, charisma, intimidation. Heavy footsteps, they cause more noise. One of the big ones, and the one I really want to get to, there's one that's called sweaty. Your excessive sweating causes your clothing to get dirty 50% faster. And you can start smelling. So that's the Steve mod. Yeah, they should just call that Steve. Poor Steve. Sorry, Steve. We love you. Yeah, you do smell. No, you never smelled. No, he just was wet. You're always wet. A little moist. And your guitar strings really hurt. Oh, my

SPEAKER_01 36:23

God.

SPEAKER_00 36:26

They look like the Statue of Liberty. They were always green. It's like his X-Men power was acid hands, but only corroded guitar strings. Yeah, oh, my God. And he fought through that because he couldn't afford more. Oh, Jesus. Yeah, one of them, I guess, I'm looking at an article, so I'm sorry if this is not as exciting. But one of them, the one I wanted to say was called Insomnia. Or no. I forget what they called it, but it was like you sleepwalk. Whatever the medieval version of a sleepwalking

SPEAKER_01 36:59

is. Sambolence?

SPEAKER_00 37:00

Yeah, some sort of like, yeah, there was like a term they named it, but it was you sleepwalk. So when you go to bed at night, you could wake up- You could wake up in the middle of the woods and have no- And so with the stat of like, you can't see where you are relative in the map, you could literally wake up- Oh my God, yeah. And have no idea where you are in the world anymore. Relative to anything. So you're just like... One guy said, this is awful. I sometimes go to sleep and I don't know if I'm going to wake up somewhere. I have no clue. And there's kind of permadeath in this game, right? No, there's no permadeath. It's just a save system. So if you haven't saved for a while, you're fucked. Okay, but you can go back to it. Yeah, but as soon as you sleep, you save. That's one of the things they've introduced in the modern. Although with hardcore mode... I don't know all the intricacies. I do know there is some... It may have went back to you can't save scum. You can't do things like... You have to have that save your snaps to save. Oh, yeah. It might go back to that element, whereas with the newer one, you can save as you exit. So if you want to get hardcore, man. Hardcore medieval. Dip

SPEAKER_01 38:18

into that. I feel like we're very hard on this game and this show. And it seems great. I'm very happy for everyone that loves it. It just ain't not for me.

SPEAKER_00 38:30

If I was sticking with it, it was probably going to be my game of the year so far. But I haven't stuck with it because I got into Minecraft. And now Blueprints, which is pretty amazing. But It's a good game. You just got to really be into medieval life. Very, very, very. Matt is. Look at him. Oh, yeah. I'm all into it. All right. Sorry. All right. I think that's it. That's all I got.

Future Quests

SPEAKER_01 39:01

All right. And now it's time for future quests.

SPEAKER_00 39:06

You got a good voice, Matt, for gaming.

SPEAKER_01 39:08

Oh, you know it. So you touched on this a little while ago. It's killing me because there are... I feel like, what, we're only a quarter of the way through this year, and there's already talk of, like, game of the year contenders between Blueprints and, apparently, the game you talked about before, the Obscura, or what is it? Expedition.

SPEAKER_00 39:36

Expedition. I call it Obscura. I like Obscura.

SPEAKER_01 39:40

Doesn't it? It has a subtitle. Expedition 33. 33. Yeah, 33. That's been on my radar for a while. I didn't even realize that it dropped, and apparently it has dropped, and people are loving on it.

SPEAKER_00 39:55

Especially, this is how I praise, because if you don't follow Paul Tassi, Paul Tassi hates, and it's turn-based. I didn't realize he hated turn-based. Yeah, he hated Baldur's Gate for turn-based, because that's a true turn-based. It sounds like this game is a little bit of a riff on it. Yeah, because there's

SPEAKER_01 40:11

a parry system and things like that. So

SPEAKER_00 40:13

it keeps it a little more exciting.

SPEAKER_01 40:14

Yeah, a little more interactive. I'm thinking more like... I'm thinking it's probably like Final Fantasy Rebirth.

SPEAKER_00 40:20

Yeah. So, yeah, I could see that being fun. But I'm not going to play it. I don't think so. I

SPEAKER_01 40:30

don't know. When it was first introduced, it looked very interesting to me. It looked like up my alley. And it's on Game Pass. That's the other thing. There's so many games on Game Pass that I'll get to in a little bit here. It's like... All right, Microsoft, I see where you was going.

SPEAKER_00 40:43

Yeah,

SPEAKER_01 40:43

they really nailed that element. Yeah, so that's one I definitely want to play when I get time. And then they also just recently came out was South of Midnight. South of Midnight had a trailer on Game Awards, I'm going to say, two years ago. It almost had the Borderlands-style artwork on it.

SPEAKER_00 41:07

I vaguely remember this.

SPEAKER_01 41:08

Yeah, and it looked... Was it in the swamp? Yeah, it looked Creole.

SPEAKER_00 41:12

Yeah. I

SPEAKER_01 41:13

mean, you know? So that's finally coming out. It's out. It's already out. I know. Like, oh, this game's kind of dropped, and it's on Game Pass. And from what I've heard, it is... So I'm a big fan of games that have just a gelling theme. You do like that. Yeah, so Deus Ex Human Revolution. That was the reboot of Deus Ex. Everyone calls it the yellow game for a lot of reasons. Because it had a very distinctive look, and it did have a yellowish tint to it. But it had a unified everything. The tone of the game, the music, the menus, the graphics, everything. Like, you just show me a second of that game out of context, I can tell you that's Deus Ex.

SPEAKER_00 42:00

Yeah. You

SPEAKER_01 42:01

know what I mean? That's how I am. And I like that. And that's what I hear. South of Midnight is the same thing. Between the music and the art style and the thematic content, someone to kind of describe that as like almost a musical.

SPEAKER_00 42:18

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 42:19

Because it has just all that kind of look and feel. And again, we're all about the music. That's kind of our main thing. Yeah. I, I, I'm the combat I hear is okay. It's fine.

SPEAKER_00 42:31

But you're not a huge combat guy.

SPEAKER_01 42:32

Yeah. I mean, I don't like, I don't want the combat to suck, but if everything else is great. Yeah. Then I'm in.

SPEAKER_00 42:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:40

So, and just looking at a trailer, I'm like, oh yeah. Like I, I got the music and just feeling like, okay, I get, yeah. Apparently the characters are great. Voice acting is great. Stylistically it looks good. So yeah. And again, it's technically free because I have Game Pass. It's funny. I've had Game Pass for like three, four months now, which I think the longest I've ever kept it. I usually get it, play a game, and drop it. But they keep dropping bombs, man. Well. The Vowed. That's what I play a Vowed on. Yeah, Vowed. I mean, they're just crushing it. Yeah. And on that, Atomfall is another one that's

SPEAKER_00 43:13

on there. Oh, yeah. I did see a little bit about that. Yeah. Yeah, that's another game that's got kind of eh. Yeah, it's like some people love it, some people kind of eh. But it feels like a Fallout-ish. Fallout-lite. Yeah, like people want to go in and think, oh, this is Fallout, but it's not. It's more of a, it's not an open world, I guess, or whatever that. No, but it's very. That's what I gather.

SPEAKER_01 43:40

It's a very story-driven game where you really, it tells you nothing. There's no, what am I supposed to do? Yes, you have to figure it all out. Okay. And it completely changes, and it is very much so, reminds me of Baldur's Gate, in that, all right, you can just kill this guy, fine, but that whole quest line's gone. Done. You're done, yeah. But you didn't have to figure out his puzzle, I guess. You know what I mean? Yeah, you could easily kill him and not have to worry about it. Yeah, so that's not going to look right. It looks cool. So there's a ton of games out right now that are just, Kind of little, and they're not very long.

SPEAKER_00 44:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 44:19

But they look cool and fun. And I was telling Brandon that. Brandon.

SPEAKER_00 44:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 44:26

That's the first name of

SPEAKER_00 44:28

Brandon we said.

SPEAKER_01 44:29

Oh, yeah. This is. Hey, Brandon. Hopefully a future guest. If you're listening. There's just not enough hours in the day to

SPEAKER_00 44:38

play all these. Oh, no. Like, yeah. I mean, I spent way too many on Blueprints. And I have no more. I'm done.

SPEAKER_01 44:46

Yeah, do you ever play a game too long where you end up dreaming about it?

SPEAKER_00 44:51

Oh, I dreamed

SPEAKER_01 44:51

about Blueprints. Yeah, I did too after that first night.

SPEAKER_00 44:54

Yeah, I was just like, uh.

UNKNOWN 44:59

Oh, my God.

SPEAKER_00 45:00

It's a good game. You should play it. Oh, absolutely,

SPEAKER_01 45:02

absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 45:03

But there's a lot of puzzles.

SPEAKER_01 45:06

Anything else you're looking forward to? Eh,

SPEAKER_00 45:09

I mean, Doom. Doom is coming.

SPEAKER_01 45:11

We talked a little bit about that. That actually might be out by the time this episode drops. Probably,

SPEAKER_00 45:16

yeah. Do you think

SPEAKER_01 45:17

you'll play that?

SPEAKER_00 45:18

Oh, you know what? I heard some of the new music from Finishing Move. They're doing the soundtrack because I think you talked about that. Yes, I did. Sounds good.

SPEAKER_01 45:27

Sounds great. Do you think you'll jump into that game right away or do you have to finish off some shit first?

SPEAKER_00 45:34

Yeah, that's a good question. I don't know what I'm going to do next. So yeah,

SPEAKER_01 45:39

it is called Future Quests. What is Andy's next actual

SPEAKER_00 45:44

quest? I need help. I'm in limbo. Like I was telling Matt, I'm a little bit depressed because I was playing Blueprints extensively. And now I'm at a point where I don't want to cheat for every puzzle. I just don't know what to do. Maybe let it go. I just got to let it go.

SPEAKER_01 46:04

I think you should. I think you should.

SPEAKER_00 46:06

And I got to move on. Should I go back to Minecraft?

SPEAKER_01 46:10

A little.

SPEAKER_00 46:11

Because we all want to

SPEAKER_01 46:13

know some things.

SPEAKER_00 46:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:14

Well, I forgot to talk about the turtles. I was just going to say, I wanted to ask you about the turtle, but I think that might have to wait. No, it's got to wait. It's

SPEAKER_00 46:23

got to wait, yeah. We need at least 20 listeners.

SPEAKER_01 46:27

You know what? Yeah. No, actually, our next Buzzsprite award is at 25 listeners. All right, 25 listeners. 25 listeners. And you'll hear about the

SPEAKER_00 46:38

turtles. So, no, I guess I can't go back to, I don't know, maybe a little bit. Liana's been about Minecraft a little bit. We went back to Wobbly Life. I don't know if we talked about Wobbly Life. I

SPEAKER_01 46:54

think I actually played a little bit with you guys, yes. Oh, yeah, you did. Yeah, I did.

SPEAKER_00 46:59

And so, you know, she likes that game again just because she loves watching games. YouTube influencers, as they call them, I guess. And so she saw a video on that, and so she wants to play it again. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know where I'm at. I'm in limbo right now. The obvious choices go back to King to Come. So I think that's where I'll go.

SPEAKER_01 47:24

Okay,

SPEAKER_00 47:24

okay. Get back into my alchemy. You know what? I'm going

SPEAKER_01 47:29

to do this hand, man.

SPEAKER_00 47:30

All right, let's hear it, man. Say it.

SPEAKER_01 47:31

What do you want me to play? What do you want me to focus on

SPEAKER_00 47:34

the next time? Man has a spinning wheel.

SPEAKER_01 47:36

So obviously we have AC Shadows, Avowed. I'm not going to give you Baldur's Gate. No, that's not going to happen. Or Blueprints. Which one do you want me to focus on?

SPEAKER_00 47:49

I think Blueprints. Oh. I think you're in a puzzle mode.

SPEAKER_01 47:52

Okay.

UNKNOWN 47:53

All right.

SPEAKER_00 47:54

I want to hear where you're going, what you're doing. Okay.

UNKNOWN 47:59

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 47:59

And then we can spoil it for all our 10 listeners. Well, we're going to talk after this

SPEAKER_01 48:02

episode about it. So you might change my mind about continuing. Yeah, really.

SPEAKER_00 48:08

Well, you played Myst, right? And you beat all the Mists. One, two. Well,

SPEAKER_01 48:17

definitely one. Two, that was the first game I played. I don't want to say cheat, but yeah, I looked up the answer.

SPEAKER_00 48:24

Oh, you did? I

SPEAKER_01 48:24

thought you figured it out. No, remember? I never learned the counting system. And then that whole game is based upon that final puzzle. Yes, which I looked up because I didn't know what to do next. So you

SPEAKER_00 48:38

looked this

SPEAKER_01 48:39

up. But I thought it was just a thing. I thought I was looking up a thing. Like the next step. That was the whole game. That was the whole fucking game.

SPEAKER_00 48:48

Yeah. Okay. I thought you were a puzzle. But

SPEAKER_01 48:51

Mist 3, Exile, remember we played together. Yeah, that was one of the few. Which had– that was– Jack Wall did the music to that.

SPEAKER_00 48:59

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 49:00

Remember? That was– we loved the soundtrack to that. And do you remember who the main actor in that was? Because remember, he used full motion video. Yeah. It was in the Lord of the Rings trilogy. It was– King. I remember the king was an influence of his right hand. Oh, really? Yeah. He just died. Oh, really? Oh, no, the king did. The

SPEAKER_00 49:27

Rohan.

SPEAKER_01 49:27

Yeah, the Rohan king. But remember his right hand man? The

SPEAKER_00 49:31

snake guy? Yes. Snape or something? Yes.

SPEAKER_01 49:34

Remember? He was the actor in Mystery Exile. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 49:39

Oh, that's right.

UNKNOWN 49:42

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 49:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 49:44

This is going to be known as a tangent episode. That's fine.

SPEAKER_00 49:46

Yeah. Well, speaking of tangents, I forgot to talk about a big thing. I just completely ignored it. This episode will never end, folks. Don't worry. It all makes sense. It's like a Blueprints puzzle. That's right. What's up? We went as a family, me and my wife and my daughter, Liana. We all went together. And we watched Minecraft. Oh, what did you as a human adult think about that? We all loved it. Really? Yes.

SPEAKER_01 50:19

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 50:20

We, as a family, Haley is going to buy it on Blu-ray. She's already said she's absolutely... So I'll have to

SPEAKER_01 50:26

watch it with you guys then, huh?

SPEAKER_00 50:28

Did you watch it?

SPEAKER_01 50:28

No,

SPEAKER_00 50:29

no. I

SPEAKER_01 50:29

have no desire

SPEAKER_00 50:30

to go.

SPEAKER_01 50:31

Really? I don't think I'm allowed... To walk into a theater as a 40-year-old man.

SPEAKER_00 50:38

Well, we're going to buy it on Blu-ray. My wife has already said we're buying it on Blu-ray. And I'm not against it because it was a silly. See, I thought

SPEAKER_01 50:48

I'd heard it's great for kids. It's just no fun for adults.

SPEAKER_00 50:52

Yeah, I mean, if you're a dickhead, maybe. I don't know. I'm just saying, if you have no joy in your life and you want to hate shit. So me. Pretty much. But you know what? If you get enough beers or enough gin or whatever your choice of poison or weed, whatever, if you get enough of that in your system, you're going to have a good time. It's silly. It's pure silliness. It's kind of like back in the 80s and 90s, like Naked Gun. You know what I mean? It's not to be taken serious. Oh, okay. All right. But there's so many nods to silly shit in the game. But it is a game that... That sounds like classic Jack Black then. It's 100% they just said Jack Black do whatever the

SPEAKER_01 51:37

fuck. Oh, I didn't realize that. It's just Jack Black being silly. I wonder if a lot of people think of Jack Black like his more modern Jack Black. When we know Jack Black from like Tenacious D, which is just... Insane. Doesn't make sense.

SPEAKER_00 51:51

No, it doesn't. Random shit. Okay, I get it now. He puts inflection on his voice in random spots you don't expect. Oh, okay. And that's why I think some of these things are blowing up. Did you hear about the weird shit with the kids loving the

SPEAKER_01 52:06

chicken

SPEAKER_00 52:07

jockey? Yes. I had no clue. I didn't think much of it. But he maybe says it in a Jack Black way that I didn't realize. I don't

SPEAKER_01 52:17

know. Yeah. Matt Berry is kind of the same way. Weird. Wasn't he supposed to be? That's right.

SPEAKER_00 52:25

That's a big reveal. I forgot. Oh, is he in it? He's in the end credits. And it's hilarious. And you

SPEAKER_01 52:35

don't expect him. He was originally up for the role, I thought. Was he? Yes. Is that why? And that makes total sense. And I fucking love Matt Berry. He does a cameo and doesn't have to. Matt Berry is, I love Jack Black, but Matt Berry is my shit.

SPEAKER_00 52:47

He's like the British Black

SPEAKER_01 52:48

Jack. Yes, he is. He's fan-fucking-tastic. And

SPEAKER_00 52:51

he's in it, but it's not way until the end. And the end

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credits. That's great.

SPEAKER_00 52:56

That is so great. All right,

SPEAKER_01 52:57

I'm in. I'm in. Everyone, we're going over to the Ant-Man's house next week. If it's on,

SPEAKER_00 53:04

have a beer. Honestly, don't go in. If you're an adult, don't go in sober.

SPEAKER_01 53:12

Unless you're driving your children there. It's

SPEAKER_00 53:14

true. Actually, we saw it completely sober, and we laughed. I laughed out loud. I'm not going to lie. There was moments where, like, this is absurd. I mean, it's not like we're talking deep gaming storylines that they can draw from. Okay,

SPEAKER_01 53:30

so they knew that and had fun with it. They went

SPEAKER_00 53:33

fun.

SPEAKER_01 53:34

All right, good for them.

SPEAKER_00 53:35

And we had a good time as a family. Leona loved it, which is the most important person. Which

SPEAKER_01 53:41

is funny because you took her to see the Mario movie.

SPEAKER_00 53:44

Oh, she left. She wanted to leave. Yeah, it was too scary. It was also Jack Black. That's right. Jack Black plays a big role in a lot of kids' lives these days. Yeah, that's crazy. And she didn't enjoy it as much, but she was younger. It

SPEAKER_01 54:00

was just an age thing, right? Has she seen it since?

SPEAKER_00 54:02

But she was also bored. No, I've suggested it, but she, based on that first experience, has not been interested in it since then.

SPEAKER_01 54:10

All right, so we'll need to have a night where we watch Minecraft and either before or after finish up Oppenheimer.

SPEAKER_00 54:21

Yes. By the way, I watched it one more time. Because

SPEAKER_01 54:27

those two go together. I mean, as well as Oppenheimer

SPEAKER_00 54:29

and Barbie. That's definitely a drive-in theater type doubleheader, right? Go see that shit. So you did

SPEAKER_01 54:37

finish that on your own?

SPEAKER_00 54:38

I did not, but I watched up until the point we stopped. I don't remember where we stopped. That was like a year ago. Really? Yeah. Well, this was not too long after because you had the Blu-ray.

SPEAKER_01 54:48

No, bitch. I had the fucking, I don't know. What is the 4K one called? Is it still Blu-ray?

SPEAKER_00 54:57

You're right. You had a 4K, but it had a digital version. And I was like, oh, I'll steal his digital version and watch it on my laptop.

UNKNOWN 55:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 55:05

And so I watched it, and up until we got where I remember, we stopped, and I was like, because the first time we were like, this is confusing.

SPEAKER_01 55:14

It was

SPEAKER_00 55:14

confusing. And then I watched it knowing that it was confusing, and I was like,

SPEAKER_01 55:18

oh. We were also drunk, so.

SPEAKER_00 55:20

Well, we were drinking.

SPEAKER_01 55:21

The answer to most of our mysteries in our lives are we may have been drinking.

SPEAKER_00 55:27

It's true. It's true. It's

SPEAKER_01 55:29

true.

SPEAKER_00 55:29

Yeah, so I watched it without drinking, and then I also had an idea of where the story was going. So I was like, whoa, this is pretty

SPEAKER_01 55:37

good. That's a Christopher Nolan movie in general. They're not meant to be understood the first time.

SPEAKER_00 55:43

No, and I watched the second watch. You know what?

SPEAKER_01 55:47

I'm going to go off on this tangent. Did you ever watch Tenet for a second time? I barely watched it for the first time. The second time. That's the only movie where I was confused the first time. And the second time I watch it, I was more confused. because you know what's happening and you're sitting there trying to figure it out. And I don't know what the fuck is wrong with his mind. I can't comprehend it. I literally had to pause it, sit there, and think about the time running in both directions simultaneously. And I think I almost had an aneurysm right there in my living room. I mean, he's brilliant. It was confusing. It is amazing. I didn't even follow it. And again, we'll talk about this music thing. Kurt pointed out that, I don't know if you noticed, but in a lot of the scenes where we're watching it, it's the reverse.

SPEAKER_00 56:41

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 56:41

The soundtrack is backwards.

SPEAKER_00 56:43

Oh, really? Yes. Wow. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 56:47

He's on

SPEAKER_00 56:47

another

SPEAKER_01 56:47

level. He is. He is. And I wish I was on that level. I love it. I will never fully understand that movie, and I'm fine with it.

SPEAKER_00 56:56

It's great. Well, he's doing The Odyssey. Right? Yeah. So that's... With Matt Damon. Matt Damon's playing... That

SPEAKER_01 57:04

has to be great, right?

SPEAKER_00 57:05

Odysseus,

SPEAKER_01 57:06

right? Odysseus,

SPEAKER_00 57:08

yeah. I'm excited. Yeah. Although, already complains. Oh, yeah. He chose garb of classic Greece, and I think, like, there's some other... Like, he's not obviously from Greece. It's one of

SPEAKER_01 57:21

those things where... they're not, you know, everyone, Hollywood depicts it one way. Right. It wasn't really that way. Again, I feel like I need to remind everyone in the world who forgets this thing. The Odyssey is a work of fiction.

SPEAKER_00 57:43

Well, that's the big thing.

SPEAKER_01 57:45

Technically. And it's a movie. Yeah. So it's, it's a double.

SPEAKER_00 57:49

It's a double hitter. Yeah. Yeah. Like, do you realize like, You're going just to have fun.

SPEAKER_01 57:56

Yeah,

SPEAKER_00 57:56

there is, you know.

SPEAKER_01 57:58

Like

SPEAKER_00 57:58

it's a story that makes you laugh or makes you cry or makes you feel things.

SPEAKER_01 58:04

Historical accuracy goes out the window when it's a work of fiction.

SPEAKER_00 58:09

You know, like I watched Ninja Turtles. I didn't believe for a second. That's not how turtles would mutate. Yeah, they would never mutate to that form. Obviously, Jesus Christ. Anyway. That was a good tangent. Oh, I love it. That was good. I think we're out of material, right? Are we? Do we have more? Unless you have any. I mean, we could probably. Wait, Matt has one more. Assassin's

SPEAKER_01 58:39

Creed. I actually have some other future quest games, but we'll save that. Are you saving them? We'll save them because if we talk about everything. Then we have nothing. We'll have nothing to talk about next time.

SPEAKER_00 58:49

Is there going to be a next time? You decide. You decide. All right.

SPEAKER_01 58:57

I am Matty Flames. I'm Andrew Wilds. Remember, folks, save your game not once but twice. You never know when you'll need a backup save. thanks see you next time