Black Belt Banter: Martial Arts Business Podcast
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Black Belt Banter: Martial Arts Business Podcast
#33 | You're Leaving Money on the Table Every Time You Swipe
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Most martial arts school owners are leaving thousands of dollars on the table every single month — not because they're spending wrong, but because they're not getting anything back for what they're already spending.
In this episode, Jimmy Hong and Master Jay Lee sit down with Pat Morgan — entrepreneur, restaurateur, commercial real estate investor, and ASA founding member — for a deep dive into credit card rewards strategy built specifically for business owners.
Pat has taken zero-cost vacations for 25 years. Business class to Japan. Hotels, flights, car rentals — all on points. And the system he uses isn't complicated. It just requires intentionality.
In this episode:
- Why a debit card is the worst financial tool in your wallet
- The difference between booking through a travel portal vs. transferring to airline partners (and why it matters — a lot)
- How to earn 100,000+ points just from expenses you're already making
- The Chase 5/24 rule and how to work around it
- Southwest companion pass strategy — how to fly your spouse free for two years
- Cell phone protection and rental car insurance you're probably already paying for twice
- Cash back vs. travel rewards — which one wins for school owners
- The two cards every martial arts school owner should open first
If your school spends $10,000 to $30,000 a month on operations, this episode will change how you look at every single purchase.
Want personalized guidance? Pat Morgan helps people build a game plan based on their specific spending habits and travel goals. If you want to know which cards make the most sense for your school, reach out to him directly at pjmmail23@yahoo.com. He genuinely enjoys helping people get started.
If you're ready to apply for the two cards Pat recommends most for school owners, use his referral links below:
- Chase Sapphire Preferred: https://www.referyourchasecard.com/19w/LKVP9NZPPK
- Chase Ink Business Preferred: https://www.referyourchasecard.com/21f/PGLMWFPBYU
Most martial arts school owners don’t have a marketing problem.
They have an execution problem.
You listen to podcasts. You get inspired. You hear great ideas…
Then Monday hits… you’re back teaching classes, answering messages… and nothing actually changes.
That’s why most schools stay stuck.
Black Belt Banter gives you the thinking.
How to see your school like a real business.
How to identify what’s actually holding you back.
How to stop operating in survival mode.
But thinking alone doesn’t grow your school.
You need the how.
That’s where ASA Live comes in.
ASA Live gives you the exact playbook—
What to say.
What to run.
What numbers to track.
And how to execute step-by-step so you actually get more students and increase revenue.
Black Belt Banter shows you the direction.
ASA Live shows you the path.
And the school owners who use both?
They’re the ones finally breaking through.
Just $97/month to finally execute and grow.
Register at https://asamartialarts.com/live/