Episode 3: Mentoring Maine’s Future (Part II): A Conversation with Christina McAnuff of the Olympia Snowe Women's Leadership Institute

Host: Elise Kiely
Guest: Christina McAnuff, Executive Director, Olympia Snowe Women’s Leadership Institute

In the 2nd half of this inspiring conversation, Elise reconnects with Christina McAnuff to explore the deeper impact of the Olympia Snowe Women’s Leadership Institute on young women in Maine. From statewide leadership conferences to alumni chapters and lifelong mentorship, this episode reveals how the Institute sustains a culture of empowerment, confidence, and connection well beyond high school.

Elise and Christina reflect on unforgettable moments, including the power of a single compliment, the ripple effect of positive regard, and why so many mentors—like Elise herself—find the experience to be just as transformative for themselves as for the girls they support.

🗝️ Key Topics Covered:

• Statewide fall and spring conferences that unite all program participants
• The alumni network supporting graduates into college, careers, and beyond
• A behind-the-scenes look at the mentor experience and its personal rewards
• The importance of meaningful feedback and emotional affirmation
• Real stories of impact from mentees and mentors
• Ways to volunteer—from long-term mentorship to one-day support roles
• How businesses and donors can support the Institute’s continued success

📍 Episode Highlights:

• [01:30] – What happens at the statewide leadership conferences
• [06:00] – How seniors graduate and become part of a growing alum network
• [08:00] – A defining moment at their Fall Forum that brought the network to life
• [13:00] – Elise’s personal journey as a Leadership Advisor
• [17:00] – Why stories and lived experiences are essential to growth
• [20:00] – A poignant story of mentorship and seeing someone’s true potential
• [24:00] – How to get involved: mentor, speak, donate, or support events

Whether you live in Maine or are just moving here, the Olympia Snowe Institute offers countless ways to engage:

• Volunteer as a Leadership Advisor
• Support one-day conferences in fall or spring
• Become a guest speaker or networking mentor
• Donate to support a girl’s full three-year journey (approx. $2,500 per participant)

 💡 Learn more about the Olympia Snowe Women’s Leadership Institute: www.snoweinstitute.org
💬 Consider becoming a mentor, volunteer, speaker, or donor.
🗓️ Attend one of their statewide events and see the mission in action.

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Elise: [00:00:00] Welcome to Elegant Maine Living, where we explore the beauty, charm and sophistication of life in Maine. My name is Elise Kiely, your host, and a real estate advisor with Legacy Properties Sotheby's International Realty. On each episode, we dive into Maine's residential real estate market, sharing key trends, inventory, insights, and notable sales, while also highlighting the extraordinary lifestyle that makes Maine such a special place to live, work, and play.

Elise: Whether you're seeking a coastal retreat, a vibrant community or an escape into nature. Elegant Maine Living is your guide to the home and experiences that defined our great state. Let's get started. Welcome [00:01:00] to the second half of my conversation with Christina Macoff, executive director of the Olympia Snow Leadership Institute.

Elise: I want to follow up on the introduction of the Institute and its mission of building confidence and leadership in Maine High School girls. And in this second episode, we will explore the organization on a macro level and share how the Institute brings everyone together that is part of the program twice a year for conferences where the girls learn through real life training and networking skills, and how the Institute is building their alumni network for both the girls, the leaders themselves and the leadership advisors.

Elise: We also talked about the benefits and the time commitment of serving as a volunteer for the Institute in different ways, whether it's mentorship directly having a relationship with the high school girls, or serving [00:02:00] as a support during their twice a year conferences. We also shared a heartwarming story of a special impact on one particular Olympia Snowe leader.

Elise: One of the things I also wanted to touch on is that there are a couple times when all the Olympia leadership advisors and the leaders get together . Twice a year. Can you share a little bit about that? 

Christina McAnuff: Yeah. So , it's Senator's favorite day of the year, I think it is for almost anyone who's involved. In the fall, we, the Institute is responsible for a full day of programming. And if you think about, , any professional development conference you might go to in real estate, there are tracks. So the sophomores will follow the my values track, the juniors, the my vision track and the seniors, the My Voice track.

Christina McAnuff: And so the Institute hires professional facilitators and most of them have been with us for years and years, and they engage. All of Olympia's Leaders from [00:03:00] across the state in activities that help kick off or introduce Olympia's Leaders to the theme of the year. And I think sophomores go in and for the first time they see that they are not a group of six, but really they're part of something so much bigger.

Christina McAnuff: They're a part of a class of 220 sophomores across the state and so that's important. And we also want. We want them to have a similar experience to kick off the year. It's also a really nice opportunity for advisors who are new to the Institute and to this experiential curriculum to see really great facilitation.

Christina McAnuff: So that's what our facilitators do, is they model that and they bring all of the students together and it's, I don't know, it's really exciting to see that the students get to hear from Senator directly. They often have pictures taken with her, past her in the hallway. She will sit in on different activities.

Christina McAnuff: Our juniors get to [00:04:00] network with people from different backgrounds because they're starting to figure out, how do I want to apply my strengths and skills and use my voice? And so networking, building their network, learning how to do that and how to steward those relationships is critical.

Christina McAnuff: And the seniors, they spend their day putting. Everything they've learned together so that they can have what we call meaningful conversations with leaders from across Maine. I know that your husband has been in and. Sat across from a senior, and this isn't, it's not a fake interview. It is a conversation of two people meeting for the first time.

Christina McAnuff: And it gives Olympia's Leaders a chance to share who they are and to get to know someone who is in a different place in their life, and to have a really authentic exchange. And possibly network and share what they're looking forward to doing. And who knows, maybe Neil, Kylie, refers them to, to a company that that does [00:05:00] their banking with Androscoggin

Christina McAnuff: who knows? 

Elise: A hundred percent. Played. Thank you. You welcome. Thank you for the plug, Christina. That was great. That would make dinner tonight easier. I remember that event so well. Because in this world where high school students today are so comfortable with a digital relationship and a virtual relationship.

Elise: The idea of going in and shaking an adult's hand and looking them in the eye is foreign at best and intimidating at worst, and that was a great experience for my girls to go in, meet someone they've never met before, shake hands and , we all instructed them how to shake hands. It's not a loose handshake, it's a firm handshake and you look them in the eye and you ask them questions about themselves. And that was a really empowering moment for my girls. And there've been so many in those fall forums 

Christina McAnuff: and then the year end celebration, which Is coming up. It's coming up, yeah. And so that's the second time we get everyone [00:06:00] together. We do it in two parts of the state to be respectful for schedules, but we not only celebrate what everyone achieved during the year, but we also use that as a time to graduate our seniors. And almost as if you were moving your tassel from one side of your mortar board to the other, they become alums in that moment.

Christina McAnuff: And so we have alums in the room to welcome them and to tell them, what the next step or what the next phase with the Institute is. Because we don't, once an Olympia leader, always an Olympia leader, and now we are, they're not done When they graduate, they're not done. They're not done.

Christina McAnuff: And so we have programming that supports them into the workforce into the trades, apprenticeships, military gap years or two and four year. 

Elise: Let's talk about that a little bit because one of the most, there's several poignant moments for me in my three years of being a leadership advisor.

Elise: And one of them was, and I think it was the fall forum where you're, and you always do such an amazing [00:07:00] job of public speaking and directing everybody and making everybody feel comfortable and invited 

Christina McAnuff: and may or may not have a great team. I may I may or may not. Yeah. I suspect I do. It's debatable.

Elise: You have clearly we're in jest because Christina has an amazing team. And there was an exercise towards the end of the day, I think it was after lunch, where you asked everybody who was not an Olympia leader to stand up and to walk on the perimeter of the room. And this was a big auditorium at the, cross Insurance center at the cross insurance center up in Bangor, huge room. And we were shoulder to shoulder in this huge convention space. And you said, okay, Olympia leaders look around so you know who you know and you have your network, but this is all of your network now. And if whatever trade or career or profession or vocation that you want to go into.

Elise: Somebody is gonna know somebody [00:08:00] in this room, look at all these people, is going to know somebody that you should meet to help further your career or your education or whatever your plans are. And that was such a powerful moment. I look back, boy, I wish I'd had that when I was their age.

Elise: And what I think is so special is that these girls having been in this curriculum, they got it. They understood the value of being part of this organization. It's always important to be part of a tribe, an organization, to have a group that you can rely on. And I think high school students, sometimes it's difficult for them to understand the power of networking.

Elise: And they want to do everything on their own and they don't need help. And that's a natural experience or thought, I think, for that age group, but the girls in that room saw the power of that networking. So that was such an important moment, and I'm excited now that my girls are [00:09:00] graduating.

Elise: I, I was with them this morning up in Poland, Maine. And I said, I, they asked me if I was going to be a leadership advisor again, and I said I probably will, because it's been such an incredible experience, selfishly for me. I've gotten so much out of it. And, but I need probably, it's not fair to the next group if I go right into it.

Elise: And I'm hoping that you'll let me do this. I want to be part of the alumni network. I think that is such a powerful opportunity for these young girls at this stage in their careers as they're trying to figure out what they want to do. 

Christina McAnuff: You are, you're signed up. Thank you. We are in the process of creating a heat map to position to show us where.

Christina McAnuff: OLA or Olympia's Leader Advisors, alums are vis-a-vis our chapters because now we have four alum chapters currently on the campuses where we have the greatest concentration of alums. In post-secondary schools, so University of Maine [00:10:00] in Orno Husson University Thomas College and University of Southern Maine.

Christina McAnuff: And so you would be a natural fit Elise to network and to be part of the professional development programming that we offer our alums. On the USM campus. I think that sounds amazing. Done. 

Elise: And I would love to be a part of that. And I would just do a shout out. The reason that I became involved with the organization is I think I went to a spring event in Falmouth.

Elise: And there were maybe three or four recently graduated high school students, girls that were in the program, and they got up in front of, I don't know, there were probably a hundred, 125 people there. 250? 

Christina McAnuff: Yeah, two or 250. 

Elise: And they spoke so eloquently. And they talked about their journey as being an Olympia leader and how they progressed and matured and how impactful the Institute was and the curriculum was that I thought and I was at a point in my life, to be fair, where my children had graduated high [00:11:00] school.

Elise: I had one out of college, one was in college, and I. I, I knew I wanted to get more involved in my community now that I had a little bit of space open up in my daily life, and I wanted to do something that had a direct impact. I wanted a direct relationship. I love going to cocktail parties. I love going to, community fundraising events. And I love contributing in that way. But I wanted the relationship and this seemed a natural fit. And I will tell you, I was a little intimidated because I have a career and I have a husband and I have other community involvements about the time commitment. And if I signed up for it, could I really do it?

Elise: 'cause I did not want to sign up for it and then not be able to finish. 

Christina McAnuff: You are not alone. 

Elise: And I, I remember seeing a video that you all put together. Of OLAs and I knew a handful of them with really big careers, bigger careers than I have bigger time commitments than I have. And I thought, okay, if she can do it and she can do it, [00:12:00] then there's no excuse why I can't do it.

Elise: And I will tell you. So once a month. It takes a morning, right? It takes 45 minutes to drive up to Poland. We're there for an hour by the time we say hello, and then we're talking to the guidance counselor and Timmy, my other OLA and I are catching up. And then it's it's a morning that I give up. A hundred percent I will be signing up to do this again. And it is the feeling that I get of being part of this organization on a macro level. But as I said to my girls on the first day when we were up at Poland, and I was very nervous, Timmy, and I said, look, we're all in. We're all in. We've got your back.

Elise: We are in your corner. I want to know when your soccer games are. I want to know when your ballet performance is. If you work at Dunking Donuts, I want to come through and order a crawler and a hot cup of coffee, and I want to go tell the manager what a great job you're doing. I'm all in, and I will be there at these girls' weddings when they have children.

Elise: We're all in and we go apple picking together. We are going to go see one of our girls as a [00:13:00] dancer. So we saw her at the Nutcracker, another girl's track, and so we went to her meets another girl's, a soccer player. The relationships that I have now are very special and I, a morning a month is well worth the, that's, that cost is well worth it compared to the value that I get and.

Christina McAnuff: You are echoing what I hear from almost every mentor in the program, which is I've gotten as much, if not more out of this than Olympia's Leaders and I think it, it comes down to what Senator reminds us of so often, which is connection. And in our very disconnected world, we think we're more connected than ever because we can send messages and photos and we can look at what everyone's doing on Instagram and Facebook.

Christina McAnuff: We're actually. So much less connected than we've ever been. And what I think the women who are advisors and the girls becoming young women in the program, they crave this connection. Because. [00:14:00] There's a study done years ago that said that nearly 80% of all women learned this. This was a study of about 3000 professional women.

Christina McAnuff: They said that 80%, so 80% of them said that they learned the most important life lessons from other women. 

Elise: Wow. Wow. So say that again Christina. 

Christina McAnuff: So a study of about 3000 career women, 80% of them said that they learned the most important life lessons from other women. Wow. And so when we share, when you and Timmy share your stories, when men come and network with our students and they share their experiences, Olympia's Leaders are cataloging this.

Christina McAnuff: They're saying, okay. When you know Elise. Came to that fork in the road and she made this decision this is how she did it, and this is what happened next. And that becomes a, a Rolodex of what is possible for their futures. And I was surprised when I started that. [00:15:00] Olympia's Leaders said more than anything, it's hearing peoples, their advisors and other people's stories. Wow. Wow. And we don't, how often do you sit with another human and share really what is so important to you? And it is a gift that you are giving Olympia's Leaders and when they reach out to you for help or to let you know that they have a production coming up, they're sharing themselves with you.

Christina McAnuff: And that genuine connection, which is not one and done, it's over the course of three years. Not everyone has that. And that's why it is so valuable. It's irreplaceable. 

Elise: I listened to that statistic. I can't help but think of my own life and the mentors that I have. And, my mother is definitely one, my mother who probably won't be listening to this episode because she's doesn't love technology is 86 years old and just retired two weeks ago. And I think back to the advice that she gave me of always being able to take care of yourself. Never be with [00:16:00] somebody because you need a roof over your head or your food. Always be able to take care of yourself and any children that you choose to have. Was very powerful and I did a short stint at the State Department and I remember there was a foreign service officer who was a woman, and this was 1980. Nine I think. 'cause it was the year of tandem and square. And her advice to me was, Elise never learn to type.

Elise: Now this is before everybody had computers. As a woman, if you learn to type, you'll just be the one doing all the typing. You won't be doing one, doing the policy decisions. And at that time, maybe appropriate advice. But it was advice, it was well thought off out. And I got to learn the lessons that she had to the path she had to forge.

Christina McAnuff: And so think about. If you heard over the course of three years in the Institute, you heard stories of, dozens and dozens of women either at your monthly meetings or at some of our in-person events. That is how we expand [00:17:00] their ideas of what's possible for the future. So increase and grow their aspirations because the reality for many Mainers is that if they grow up in a community and their family is rooted in that community, maybe generations they know the culture and what's possible in their backyard and when they meet and hear from people with different experiences, all of a sudden what's possible becomes far greater.

Christina McAnuff: And it's not to say that what is in their backyard isn't appropriate or great or meaningful, and. I suspect that many Olympia's Leaders will go away to college enter the workforce outside of Maine and then come back. But that be better, that be a choice than something that they just fade into, because that's all they know.

Elise: A hundred percent. A hundred percent. Christina, thinking back to you, obviously talked to a lot of OLAS throughout the year. Any specific stories that come to mind that are really impactful? 

Christina McAnuff: So we [00:18:00] heard from one just yesterday, they had their meeting and it was the activity that I think has resonated with you.

Christina McAnuff: Where they, as sophomores, our students and our advisors, they take what's called the Clifton Strengths Profile. And what it does is through myriad questions, it bubbles up to the top, your top five leadership strengths. And so as a way to debrief that report that each person gets, people pair up and it's not enough to read a report, but through this activity, the, your, the partner, the person with whom you're paired, shares what they see in you.

Christina McAnuff: And there was an Olympias Leader who is perhaps not as connected with her family, and it's a pretty visible struggle. And this Olympia's leader [00:19:00] was paired with one of her advisors and her advisor said to her, I see you, as someone who's incredibly strong, and you know what you want. And in that moment, the Olympia's leader, who perhaps doesn't hear that a lot broke down into tears. She did not. She had not received such direct, meaningful feedback, and she perhaps didn't see that in herself until that moment, and that was a moment for her to feel seen, validated, appreciated. But it was also a moment for the advisor to see that in one moment, sharing an insight that was true and genuine, the incredible impact it made on this young woman. And I think one of the things that's so hard to communicate to the women who volunteer for three [00:20:00] years is that you may not know the impact you have ever. You might know it immediately, but it might come years down the road and.

Christina McAnuff: I think getting into work like this, knowing that it pays off in many different ways is a testament to the woman who do it because they're not here. For that instant gratification, they're here to shepherd a group through three years and to be there with them through thick and thin. Yeah

Elise: I can relate to that story because I had a similar experience and I call it the note card experience. 'cause we wrote our five on note cards and there were two of the leaders that were assigned to each other and. The look on the face of the girl who received the positive regard from her friend who said, you always include people, you never exclude anyone.

Elise: I think that's a really important quality and I admire that so much. The look on the girl's face, who received that [00:21:00] compliment? It was like Christmas morning. Priceless. It was the shock of hearing that positive regard. I'll never forget it. And the look on the leader that got to give the compliment her face lit up.

Elise: It was just the energy and the sunshine coming out of that expression was a, again I, a moment I'll never forget. It was so impactful. 

Elise: Christina, this has been so wonderful. I could talk to you for hours and I hope you know all of the incredible things people are saying about you behind your back.

Elise: Thank you. And as I just want to share with listeners, I sat down with Christina, I don't know, maybe a week ago, two weeks ago, and I was sharing with you what some of the girls plans were for next year. Who knew we're still, few girls are still waiting to hear from schools. And I shared with you what their plans were.

Elise: Immediately without skipping a beat, you said, okay, there's an alum at that school who's maybe now in nursing. Let's get them to have [00:22:00] coffee because this was an out-of-state school down south. And they should know each other 'cause that'd be a nice support and this person wants to go in this vocation.

Elise: Okay. We've got a contact at this company that could really be helpful as a guide and a mentor like you. Your brain is always working. How can I help these girls? How can I further their experience? How can I further their opportunities? And that is a gift. That is a gift that Thank you all of those leaders get from you.

Elise: And I know that you have a personal relationship with one of my girls. She told me today that she texts you all the time, which is fantastic. And talk. Let's talk, just as we close out, how are some ways that people could help the Institute 

Christina McAnuff: For those who want to connect with our future leaders you can of course be a volunteer mentor over the course of three years.

Christina McAnuff: That is for people who identify as female. You can volunteer at events. So we have, as we talked about, we have this full day event in, [00:23:00] at the end of September. We have these two midday events in the middle of May. And when you're welcoming. 500 or a thousand people at a venue and you're a team of eight chances are you need some extra hands.

Christina McAnuff: So that's a great way to do it. And those are, 

Elise: so those are just like one day, 

Christina McAnuff: one day deep dive. Yes. And those freshmen, all the leaders got a bag with business cards program material. Yeah. So our corporate partners show up big time for Olympia's Leaders. We have I don't want to, I don't want to spoil it for maybe future leaders Oh, good.

Christina McAnuff: Who are listening to this, but. Our business community comes together. And so when we welcome the, incoming class of sophomores, they get a sense of that network at the beginning of the day. And then at the end of the day, when we surround them, they have a visual idea of what that network looks like.

Christina McAnuff: But also we need men who will interact with Olympia leaders at these events. And have conversations. We need people from diverse [00:24:00] backgrounds, whether it be lived experiences or careers, who will share their journeys with the juniors at these events. We need every March is guest speaker month.

Christina McAnuff: And we need people who will zoom with a group of Olympia leaders, share their story, and then answer questions that Olympia's Leaders will have. And of course, we also need people to contribute financially so that we can keep the program free. To Olympias leaders, their families and their schools.

Christina McAnuff: And so each year we are investing about $2,500 per girl. So if you do the math, there's six. So I'm thinking it's about $15,000 a class. I hope my CFO husband is not listening to these calculations. And so that's about $45,000 We invest in each school. There are 37 schools, and so we, we raise every dollar.

Christina McAnuff: And so that's a, an incredible way to invest in the next generation of Maine's leaders. 

Elise: Yeah. And it's, if you want to [00:25:00] have a direct impact. And be part of an incredible and vibrant community. It's a great opportunity and it's, if you're moving to Maine and you're looking for connection you're looking for a way to not only meet people, but to really contribute to a community. This is a great organization. There's so many ways to do this, 

Christina McAnuff: and. From our corporate partners to individual donors, there is a benefit. We have a network, it's called the Leaders Network, and these are women that represent our women who are donors individually, but also that work at the companies that support us financially.

Christina McAnuff: And we provide professional development for them as well. So that's another network. And a lot of our new individual donors who have come to Maine and they join this network, all of a sudden they have connections with people across the state. 

Elise: I go to these events and I see everybody from people that have been incredibly strong volunteers for as long as I've known them in their adult life in Maine, and I've seen who sit on [00:26:00] boards of banks, I see C-suite professionals who have given up a day or an afternoon or a morning to be part of this organization. So it's a pretty diverse, impressive group of people that. Come and come out and support the organization. Christina, as we close out, I, I am starting to end each episode with some quickfire signature questions for you.

Christina McAnuff: Okay. Hit me 

Elise: because you are so well regarded in the community and you are so easy to talk to. The fact that my senior. Leader in Poland is, communicating with you. Not infrequently she told me is amazing. But you are, you're very approachable. You're very inviting. Thank you. But this might help make you feel even more inviting.

Elise: Okay. More accessible. Okay. What is your favorite coffee shop to meet people when you are talking to either donors or potential volunteers? 

Christina McAnuff: If I can plan in advance, it's 100% coffee by design on Diamond Street. That's a great one because there's always a chance that I'll see Mary Allen, but also in addition to the person I'm meeting, there are [00:27:00] so many incredible people that walk through those doors that it fills my cup in different ways.

Elise: What's your favorite book or podcast, if you have one? 

Christina McAnuff: I am a big fan of, we talked about it earlier in this session. It's a book called The New Happy and. There's an incredible woman behind the book and they distill incredibly complex and meaningful concepts into beautifully simple graphics, and I love to share them as a way to get people thinking in a different way.

Elise: I love that one too New. Happy is great and I follow them on social media. If you could wave the magic wand, what's one talent that you would have that you feel like you don't currently have? That's tough. 

Christina McAnuff: I would love to be a better friend to myself. Weeks ago I said something in a meeting and one of our directors came up to me and she said, I admire you so much and it was really hard for me to hear you criticize [00:28:00] yourself.

Christina McAnuff: And so that's what I'm gonna be working on. Being a better friend to myself there. 

Elise: There's a great curriculum that starts with your values, your vision, and then your voice. I'll look into it. I'll look into it. Christina, thank you again for taking the time out of your busy schedule. I really appreciate it.

Christina McAnuff: My pleasure, Elise. Thank you for listening to this second episode of my interview with Christina Macoff. It has been a pleasure having you, Christina. Thank you. And all of the links will be provided in the show notes if you are looking for ways to volunteer or donate to the Institute. Thank you for joining us on Elegant Maine Living, and remember if you are dreaming of a lifestyle in Maine or already living it, this podcast is for you.

Christina McAnuff: Be sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode. And I invite you to take this journey with me. Please share it with your friends, family, neighbors, and coworkers. I would love a review and welcome feedback and [00:29:00] encourage you to reach out with questions or topics you would like to hear about. You can find me on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn, or simply an email to elise@elisekylie.com, and all of those links will be in the show notes.

Christina McAnuff: And remember, this podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only and does not create an attorney-client or real estate advisory relationship. I am happy to engage. If you have any questions or if I can help in your real estate journey, simply click on the links in the show notes to contact me through social media or email.

Christina McAnuff: I am always happy to help in any way that I can, and we welcome you to come and explore Maine. Thank you for listening to Elegant Main Living, where elegance isn't just an aesthetic, it's a way of life. Until next time, keep living with [00:30:00] elegance.