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Master of Rafters: Bret Woods on Starting Little Brothers Roofing & Setting New Industry Standards
In this episode of the Think Biz Solutions podcast, we sit down with Bret Woods, owner of Little Brothers Roofing. Bret shares his fascinating journey from the restaurant industry to launching his roofing company in January 2020, right as the world shut down. Learn how he differentiated his business by bringing a strong focus on customer service to the construction world. Bret also provides crucial insights into roofing quality, explaining why simply meeting national code or manufacturer instructions is just the bare minimum. He discusses the challenges of running a business through personal setbacks and significant weather events, such as the devastating Norman hailstorms. Plus, hear his valuable advice for new entrepreneurs on embracing failure and his bigger picture vision for raising the bar for the entire roofing industry.
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SPEAKER_00:What up, what up? Yeah, it is. The magician himself, the wizard? The wizard. Grazie. What was your Memorial Day weekend like? It was sweatier than I would have liked it to be. But we have a clean home. We have a happy baby girl. We made some money. It was a good weekend, so I can't complain. But do we have any complaints from our lovely guest over here, Brett, my good sir? Well, first off, before we ask for complaints, maybe we just ask, tell us about who you are. Who is our lovely guest this week? Brett Woods in the house.
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SPEAKER_00:a little punchy. I felt left out. I wasn't making any noise. Yeah. So my Memorial Day weekend, not that you guys asked. No, I'm just kidding. No one had asked. I was like, I want to know what was bad about Brett's
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SPEAKER_00:No, there was nothing bad about my weekend. So Monday, yesterday was my birthday. And so my wife... Happy birthday. Thank you. So my wife made sure that I did nothing, which is the best birthday. Excellent. When we first started dating, she was always like, oh, I got to... So I had this like... birthday curse, right, for a long time when I was younger and stuff, my birthday was always horrible and all this stuff, because, you know, parents, right, but... So I told her about this birthday. And so she's like, I got to make it the most special day possible. Well, the most special day for me is doing nothing. Right? Like just sitting down and just nothing. Right? And I'm like, we got to sit at the house all day. And so she literally was like, this year I'm doing whatever you want to do. And I think what you want to do is nothing. And I was like, we got it down. We figured it out. That's right. That's right. Good birthday to happen. Excellent. I could have calculated your astrology chart if you didn't. Like, I got you. We get those birthday in That's fair. That's fair. Our family cursed holiday is Thanksgiving. Oh, really? And it's my favorite holiday. I love Thanksgiving. Mine too. But every single year, something bad happens. Like my parents got in a car wreck one year. They're fine. Then another year, my mother-in-law got news that she has cancer. On Thanksgiving? On Thanksgiving. What doctor is like, hey, let's go ahead and call this lady. She needs help. But she's also fine. She's... She's doing well. But it's just something. Every single year, there's been a thing. So, darn Thanksgiving. Well, if you ever have a cursed holiday, I have like 200 more that I can pull out of my pocket for you at any time of year. We got you on holy days. We can make something happen special. Well, say... Say that somebody has a cursed roof. Who would we find to help us with a roof just in bad shape? I was just giving this guy a review the other week. What was it? Little Brothers Roofing or something like that? I don't know who you'd call. Yeah, no, we live in Oklahoma. I see a lot of those. I see a lot of those. And so I'm presumed that there was a reason for you to start... Little Brothers Roofing, my good sir? Yeah. Yeah. Maybe not a good one. So was it just somebody had a roof that needed to be fixed and Redwoods was the only man to solve it? I wish it was that easy. No. So I got into construction because at the time my daughter was a little less than one and I was in the restaurant industry and I'd been a manager in the restaurant industry for a long time. And I... I just couldn't get her. So me and my daughter's mom at the time weren't... Now we're best friends, but at the time we weren't seeing eye to eye. We were angry at each other. And so I couldn't ever get my daughter because she was like, you can have her on the weekend and was fighting me on it. And in the restaurant industry, that's the busiest time of the week. So I'm never having weekends off. I never have a weekend off. And so... I went on to Indeed and applied to 50 different construction companies. Because I was like, you know who's not working on the weekends? It's construction, right? And so I applied to 50 different construction companies. Red River Roofing gave me a call back. And I got the job at Red River. And I've instantly fell in love with being able to be outside all day, every day, going different places. And I started out in their repair division. So I actually started out doing the roofing work. And what... I always knew I wanted to be in sales. I took a massive pay cut going from restaurant management into being an apprentice at a roofing company. Huge pay cut. So I go, hey, I always know I want to be in sales because that's where the money's at. And I know I've got a long way to get there. I'm like 21 or 22 at this time. And I'm like, I know I've got a long way to get there, but I want to be in sales. So I talk to Steve, the owner of Red River Roofing. And I go, hey, I saw you posted a job on Indeed. I would love to... I did that five or six times. I would love to apply for it. Hey, you're not ready. I'd love to apply for it. Hey, you're not ready. You're not going to fit. It's not going to be a good fit for you. Which ended up being the biggest blessing. Sometimes rejection is the biggest blessing that you can get. He kept telling me no, kept telling me no, kept telling me no. Finally, I go, well, I'm going to go out and do my own thing then. I had someone at the time invest in the company, which I say invest. It was$1,000. It's not really a company investment. At the time, At the time, I'm going, whoa, my goodness. And yeah, we can do this. And so I just had to hit the ground running and learn from there. But I started the company because I wanted to be in that sales role of being able to do more. That's awesome. So y'all have been a business for how many years now? Coming up on six. Excellent. Coming up on six. Very nice. So we started January of 2020, which, you know, as anyone knows, is the greatest time to start. Three weeks later, the world shuts down. So it took me six months to get my first client. But, you know. Hey, I mean. Even when there's a pandemic, you still need a functioning roof. That is true. You especially need a roof. It's the thing you have to stay under. And people in that industry that were like already ready to go, they knew what they were doing at that time, killed it in 2020 because everyone was outside. Everyone was inside all day working from home and they would go, hey, I want to go outside and do my garden and do my lawn. And then they were deprived of the human connection. And so you had door knockers going by, not actually knocking doors, but just waving from outside. you know hey let's let's talk about your you know and and people were open to it because they would just needed the conversation yeah and uh so like other roofing companies i know like killed it that year and that year well the next year um norman got obliterated so it got a hailstorm that that took out basically 80 percent of norman's roofs um i mean like just absolutely annihilated it's like three inch hail crushed it Yeah. And then my roof had to get replaced during that time. Oh, did it really? Yeah. So then October, right after that, like it was like six months later, it got another three inch hailstorm that took out almost all of the same. I mean, Norman literally got replaced and then replaced in one year. And so yeah, roofing companies like that, that timeframe worked. crushing it yes and i knew nothing about roofing back then so yeah well i knew about roofing nothing about sales i've lived in in my house for five and a half years and my roof has been replaced twice oh my goodness but you just got you just got an upgrade though so it won't get replaced next time it hails yeah hopefully hopefully so and we have solar now that's what i'm talking about the upgrade yeah yeah that'll keep it from getting so it's uh i mean it's it's In fact, you got solar from the one and only, right? I did. Mr. Dirk himself. Dirk Neitzel. That's right. He's been a podcast guest. So go check out his episode if you haven't heard it. But you are like one of the most knowledgeable people I've... ever met when it comes to roofing. I'm actually going to even go a step further and say you are the most knowledgeable person about roofing because I don't know that many roofing people. That's fair. I mean, you truly love what you do and it comes out when you talk about it. What has kind of been the thing that has made you so passionate about your work and what you do? Great question. Great question. You guys want to send prompts next time? No, I'm just kidding. No, yeah, no, I like live answers too. But no, so that's a great question. What makes me most knowledgeable or makes me most passionate about wanting to be knowledgeable is one, I'm always somebody that's loved working. Um, I got a job when I was 14 and have worked full time basically since then. Now full time for a 14 year old is like 26 hours, right? But, uh, legally, but, um, like I've worked, I mean, I worked all throughout high school, worked all throughout, you know, when I got out of high school, instantly worked. I've never not been a worker. And one thing I've always done is taken a lot of pride in what I do. And I really have to say, I have to thank Red River for the culture that they have there. Now, Red River is struggling. I think the owner, the owner's ready to retire and it's, they're struggling. But at the time when I was with Red River, the culture there was, we are the best at what we do, right? Like period. They were, I mean, and at the time they were incredible. Um, you know, like we would have meetings constantly of like, Hey, we have to get this, you know, this is a problem that we've ran into, you know, and it hasn't been solved because roofing is not cut and dry, right? Like it's not a lot of it is, but, but when you get into the, some of the more difficult homes, some of the bigger homes like it's not just hey this is the solution for this you follow x y or z protocol right and a lot of times it's hey you have to get this custom fabricated you have to get this problem fixed right like like and architects don't like to make it easy right so theoretically it works right but when you actually
SPEAKER_01:want to make it pretty
SPEAKER_00:right right and they are doing fantastic at their job right there are some beautiful homes out there and but that's why you know roofers get paid so much as they got to keep the water out of the homes and it's it's a lot of liability. That was the biggest learning curve for me was liability insurance was nuts on roofing compared to any other company. But So I've always been somebody that wanted to be... I love their culture there that it was like, hey, we are the best at what we do. And I've always wanted to be the best at what I do as well. And so I just kind of always wanted to expand my knowledge base. And I never wanted to just stay stagnant and go, hey, I'm not in it for the money. I'm not in it for just doing it to do it. Or to collect money and then get out of the business. I'm in it because I love it. I love the... freedom it gives me to make it to every one of my kids games and practices and, and be there for, if my wife is having a horrible day, I can go and drop by and stop by and give her some lunch, you know, and, and just be there for her as well. You know, I love the freedom that it offers. And if, if I love that, then I have to make sure that what I'm doing is the best of the best. Um, yeah. That's really cool. And I, I think that, um, that shows in the work that you do. And you've had a lot of success with your company coming from a place where you were, you were just wanting to be able to do more sales. You couldn't, you were like, gosh, darn it. Well, I'm going to start a business, which, which I honestly think more times than not is how we, we get great businesses is that somebody gets, uh, dissatisfied at a company that they were at and they know that there is something more out there. And so tell us a little bit about your, your journey through success and what has made you successful inside of the roofing industry. Yeah. So I can't, and I feel horrible cause I can't quote this person. I don't remember who it was, but I remember seeing or, or listening to a podcast at some point and somebody stating, uh, When you're able to bring multiple industries together and use what works in one industry and bring it to another industry, you can set the bar for a different, you know, for something else, right? For a new type of company or a new type of thing that people aren't used to in that industry, right? And the one thing that I realized whenever I did leave Red River and started my own company is that you call, at the time, you were to call any roofing company And I mean, the person that answered the phone is grumpy, right? Like you get, pick up the phone and call them. And this is the person that's a lot of these companies. This is the person that sits in the office all day and all they do is take phone calls, but they're angry. And I came from customer service and restaurant industry, right? Where it doesn't matter what you do, you make the customer happy because they're going to come back, right? Like period. And so I, I've, implemented that into my business instantly where i go every time i answer that phone it's hey how's it going you know and i'm a really happy person in general most of the time anyways right so it's not hard for me to just have a good you know outlook on answering the phone but I realized that was where it was lacking, right? And there wasn't a whole lot of customer service in construction. It was all, hey, you're honored to do work with us, right? Because we're the best at what we do. So you're going to call us and deal with us being grumpy. And it's like, no, no, no. If we're going to be the best at what we're going to do, then let's be the best in every standard. And so that was one of the biggest things that I had a lot of success with. And I still have a lot of success with. I keep almost all of my clients. And that's because I constantly go back and check up on their roofs. We do a six month, you know, checkup program that even though we know that we installed that roof, there's no issues with it. We know there's not gonna be any issues with it, but sometimes things happen, right? You have a tree that grows over the top of the house. You have, you know, whatever it is, you know, you go, Hey, we can catch that on the front end. And so the biggest thing is we have a huge return on clients. And that blows people away when I talk to people about that and roofing, because most of it, in fact, I was talking to Dirk about that because when he was in, or he is in solar, but he also deals with a lot of client acquisition, right? Because it's like you, you install it and you move on. Well, that roof is going to last seven to 12 years in Oklahoma. On average, the average roof life is seven to 12 years because you know, in my case, you know, and so I'm going to continue that relationship with them constantly because when it's time to replace it again, I mean, as everybody in sales knows, right? Like the best customers when they've already sold to, right? Like they're like done. Yeah, absolutely. I already trust you. This is a hot lead. This is like, you're going to get it no matter what. Right. And so that was something that we implemented early on was just instant customer, customer satisfaction and customer service. It was just instant. When you call me, I don't want it to be, oh, God, I've got to call this guy. Even if it's the fifth time you've called us because we did something wrong and we have to come out there and fix it again, and I know it's going to cost me money to go out there and fix it, and I'm like, I don't care. When you call me, I'm like, hey, how's it going? Oh, I'm so sorry about that. Let's come out there and we'll take a look. So that's where we've had a lot of successes. Oh, that's amazing. And you just kind of, you ooze mastery of your industry whenever you are talking about it, whenever you're speaking on it to anybody. So we're really excited for your presentation. But that mastery also has to have come with a couple of stumbling blocks, right? We started coupling at the beginning of COVID. We're trying to get the sales that we want to do. So what's something that despite all the research and the learning that you do take on for yourself to gain that mastery, what's something that we can't learn from the internet or from a book from Brett's experience? Hmm. Great question. Great question. Um, so, um, Hmm. I don't know what that's going to answer this. And in what regards and roofing or in business or anyone, the thing that, First hits your gut. Okay. Um, so you can hear that, but okay. So I'll do roofing because a lot of business and sales, you can get, you find a book, right? You can find it in a podcast and you can hear someone talk about it. Um, one, I would like to iterate on that though, is, is not every client is for you. I've had to tell people, hey, I'm so sorry. And I do this all the time where I tell people, hey, even though if we don't do any work for you, give me a call and I would love to tell you because there's a lot of bad roofing companies out there. This industry has a bad rap for a reason, right? And I go, hey, let me know who you're thinking about using and just so I can tell you, hey, whether or not I've had a bad experience with them or whether or not I go, hey, I've been on roofs of theirs and it's fantastic. They do a great job, right? And I do and And I truly mean that. Every time I go out to someone's house, I'm not trying to sell them. I'm just trying to let them know where they're at on the health of their roof. And then I want them to make the best fiscal decision for them. But sometimes the best fiscal decision is like, hey, don't go with the cheapest person. There's some bad companies out there. I drove past three stinking roofs this morning that were getting replaced. It's raining, by the way. The decking is saturated. There's water getting in their house right now. And I'm like, come on. Of course, there's no project manager out there. There's nobody watching the job. And the crew's getting paid to get it done. So they're like, all right, guys, let's go. They don't care. And so the best fiscal decision Since it's not always the cheapest option. But to really answer your question, my answer to that would be manufacturer's instructions or code is the baseline. So when people go, oh, I installed it up to code, that doesn't mean that they did a great job. Sometimes code doesn't cover it, right? The code is national. Well, roofing is very different. You go down to Texas and you'll see very different types of roofs than you will here. You go to Arizona and you see very different types of roofs than you do here, right? You go to New York and you see very different types of roofs than you do here. So for example, in commercial roofing, down here, there's single ply and there's Anyway, single-ply is what we're talking about because I can get down a whole rabbit hole. So we'll talk about single-ply roofs, which just means there's one layer, one barrier in between the decking and the roof. So single-ply, the most common forms of single-ply are TPO down here, which is that white stuff. It's on this roof as well at this building. It's that white plastic material. It's actually a thermoplastic material. And you heat weld it down to each other. You go up north and TPO doesn't do very well. Everything is EPDM. EPDM is rubber. And EPDM doesn't get heat welded because it melts in the heat. It gets glued. Well, all of those glues down here gets so hot that EPDM doesn't do well. And so national guidelines are... hey, this is what you should do on a national level. Manufacturer guidelines are, hey, I mean, manufacturers are national, if not international, which I actually believe that roofing products aren't allowed to be international because of EPA and all the other different chemicals and stuff that are in them. But I could be wrong about that. I don't know. I'm not in manufacturing. But, you know, so... National guidelines doesn't mean that it's the right thing for the right area, right? And so for in Oklahoma, I don't install anything under 40 degrees Fahrenheit because every single time I've been called back out on a repair has been because of a job that we did and it was 36 degrees. Well, manufacturing instructions say 32. Anything above freezing is fine. It'll adhere. But we don't do it under 40 anymore. Unless it's an emergency and then we take heat guns and melt everything together and make sure that everything's sealed down. So manufacturing instructions and code coverage or code is a baseline. Yeah, it's the bare minimum. And if you're not installing up to code, if you're not installing up to the manufacturer instructions, run. Don't use that company because that is the bare minimum. I mean... But yeah, that would be my advice. Well, and that also just goes back to the understanding that you brought from customer service as well. It's just do more and do it better than what's expected. Right. Go above and beyond. It gives you better quality. It gives you better customer base. It gives you just a better name as a company as well. So again, I think that's a good little tagline for Brett Woods is go above and beyond. manufacturer's standards. Oh, I thought you were going
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SPEAKER_00:better ingredients, better pizza. Not below 40 degrees. Not below 40 degrees. Brentwood's never below 40 degrees. So we do have a lot of listeners who are business owners or entrepreneurs. And what's one piece of advice that you would give to somebody who's just starting out and was trying to save themselves from stresses that maybe you came across when you were first starting? I know when I was first starting... I have more, uh, stresses that I gave myself than what I would like to admit. So, uh, if, if we ever want to have just a dedicated podcast, so yeah, it's like, and another thing, me and Ben did that. Yeah. Last Tuesday, we were just sitting there going back and forth. I'm still working on those prayers. Those are on the way.
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SPEAKER_00:Yeah, so great question. My answer to that would be don't be afraid to fail. You have insurance for a reason. You have all these things for a reason. If you don't have insurance, get it.
SPEAKER_01:Right. Well, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Exactly right. So my thing would be don't be afraid to fail. And don't beat yourself up for failing, but always do AARs, right? After action report. And so that way you can go, what happened? What can we do better? And what went wrong? I've had my fair share of jobs that have gone bad. And that's why I said I keep almost all of my customers, right? Because there are some times where I'm like, oh, we messed up and I'm so sorry. And we fixed it. Of course, we'll fix it, right? We don't ever not fix it, but we will. We'll do it. Excuse me. We'll do everything we can to help get the problem resolved. But, I mean, nobody's perfect, right? I'm not Jesus. And so no matter how much my hair looks like him. I know everybody can't see Brett right now, but he does have beautiful hair. It's luscious curls. It's nothing like Rob's, all right? We have another buddy whose actual name is... is hair and uh and it's glorious he legally changed it when his hair uh started growing out yeah no that makes total sense though is um you know so much of the time we we end up regretting not the things that we do but the things that we don't do and it's uh it's it's actually a bunch of big studies that have, have done, you know, surveys over the course of people's lives that have shown, you know, we may not be proud of some of the decisions we've made, but we don't, we don't regret as much the decisions we've done. Cause we always can be like, Oh, well I learned from this. I did, you know, but things that we don't do, we have, we have a lot of regrets. So with fear of failure, don't, Don't let that hold you back. No. A hundred percent. And it's really important to also, I love the Alex Hormozy adage of the real metric of success is who fails faster than everybody else. And that's what actually makes you the winner. What makes you the best in your field is you were willing to fail more than everyone else and work on it. And in my opinion, and I've said this a lot in different aspects of life as well, but it's only a failure if you let it be you. Right. And, and so I, when you do things that you allow to take you out of the game, right? When you do things that allow you to, to, to go, Hey, I can't do this anymore, you know, or whatever. Um, that's when it's a true failure. And, and sometimes there are things that do that, right? Like I've, I was talking to Jason, uh, Taraz's, um, Wednesday last week, I think. And, uh, we're talking about Jason's a, uh, uh, Legal lead shark. Payroll and legal lead shark. He's a cool guy as well. Fantastic guy, by the way. Phenomenal guy. Can't wait to have him on here because he's phenomenal. I'm having to hold Brett back because he's got so many connections. We just got to reel him back in. So much love to you. I'm sorry. This is all you, Brett. This is all you, bud. I'm sorry. I'll stop referencing people. How dare you? Yeah, but I was talking to Jason and he realized It really helped me realize that I've had a lot going on in the last year and a half. Lost multiple parents. I mean, just a lot go on. And to not dive deeper into that, but... if you don't allow that to take you out of the game, right? Then you're, if you keep moving forward and sometimes you've got to move forward at a snail's pace, you know, sometimes it's not all, all gears ahead, you know, or full steam ahead. And I don't know, uh, what is the word? Uh, nevermind. Uh, but you know, sometimes you really have to, um, just keep moving in little bits. You know, it's, it's like, if you are trying to lose weight, you just got to keep, keep moving, right? Going to the gym for two minutes. It's like, uh, uh, uh, James is a James clear who does, uh, uh, Atomic Habits, right? Oh, yes. Phenomenal book, by the way. But it's like he talks about, like, get yourself in the mindset of you're someone who does this, even if you can't hardly get yourself out of bed in the morning, right? Through business, I've lost, while running my company, I've lost multiple parents, been through a divorce, been in multiple legal battles of, you know, I mean, like, you're constantly going to get set back. Personal legal battles, not company. But just to clarify, yeah. But, but like you're constantly going to be in this, this station of there's always going to be something else pulling you down. You just got to keep moving forward. Yeah. And you were a testament to that. Keep moving forward mindset because you're always here every Tuesday. We love seeing you. We love having you here and your energy just maintains itself for you because you, I would presume you have something bigger that you're also kind of getting after because you've got a bouncing baby roofing company, six years old now. You're doing everything you've got going on in your life. You're surpassing all of these obstacles. So what's the bigger picture for Brett then moving forward? That's a great question. You guys ask really good questions. Mostly no, it's all Nolan. I don't know. Oh, there you go. We copy off each other's homework. So bigger picture. Well, and I've said this earlier as well, but it's not about money for me. I'm in this to make money, right? And I am a for-profit company because I have to pay the bills and support my family. But it's not about money for me. I'm currently working on, slowly, but currently working on putting together training for other roofing companies to help bring them up to standards. My goal in this bigger picture would be to help the homeowners, because the homeowners are the ones who suffer, right? Every single time. When a contractor fails, the homeowner suffers. And so my goal in this is to get other contractors up to higher standards and allow... homeowners to stop having to bear the burden of dealing with the crap companies that are out there, right? And so... the people who are in it just for the money and have no idea what they're doing. I mean, I hear stories all the time in my industry of like, oh, yeah, I've been in roofing for six months. I decided to start my own company and just go sell. And I'm like, what do you know about roofing? And the only reason our industry is like that and plumbing isn't or HVAC isn't is because you have to go to school for those. So anybody who owns one of those companies, they've been to school for years. HVAC is a two-year full-time certification. It's an associate's degree And you're there every day for like eight hours, right? And plumbing is also, I think it's like a one-year class, right? One-year course of you have to get a license. And then you have to do internships under licensed plumbers and stuff, right? And under licensed HVAC technicians. And so electrical is the same way, right? And so roofing really should be. I'm a big advocate for roofing. more requirements to get into it. And it'll kick all those sales guys out. It'll actually bring a lot of money into the industry because all the big money will come in and buy up the roofing companies that are already there. And that way they'll keep them, they'll go, hey, you know about roofing, I just want to invest in your company and allow you to do it. That's amazing. That is big. Big picture stuff, Brett. That's awesome. And it just enfolds in everything that you know, everything you're good at. So Brett, as the master of rafters, the sheik of shingles, and the duke of double ply, where else can people find you as we're wrapping up here today? Well, I've got Facebook. I need to get with the... I don't know. I was trying to think of something with a G for Google for you. No, I need to get with Garrett. The Googler Garrett. That was horrible. My
SPEAKER_01:nickname
SPEAKER_00:in high school. I passed all my classes. And I'm Google. But no, I don't have a big online presence. But I do have a website. I do have– so littlebrothersroofing.com. We do have our Facebook page, which I hate social media. So it's not– I do post on there every month or so. It's like we know a couple people that can help you in that direction. Yeah, yeah. So we've got your website, littlebrothersroofing.com. Biggest way to contact me would be my phone number. Okay. Go ahead. No, no, hit me with those digits. Okay. So my phone number is, what's your number? No, 405-365-0456. And if anyone ever has any questions about roofing whatsoever, give me a call. We can highly recommend you, Brett. So as we're signing off here today, we always got to remember to stay sharp. Think biz.
