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Moms Take Over: How Business Reshapes Parenting

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Building a business while raising kids isn’t a neat equation; it’s a shifting rhythm. We open up about the real trade-offs behind “flexible” work, why we left predictable schedules, how sales and networking pushed us past comfort, and the surprising ways parenting made us better entrepreneurs. From advocating at school to handling a tough client call, the same muscles of courage, clarity, and repair keep showing up in both worlds.

We get specific about boundaries that protect family time without sacrificing growth. You’ll hear the scripts we use when the phone rings at 7 pm, the dinner-table rule that keeps us grounded, and the difference between being accessible and being endlessly available. We also dig into scope control and pricing, how to say no kindly, why not every client is your client, and how every no gets you closer to the right yes. Along the way, we share simple systems that reduce stress: textable intake forms, promise dates that set clear expectations, and inbox habits that turn chaos into a clean to-do list.

Underneath it all is mindset. We reframe “have to” into “get to,” practice emotional literacy at home and at work, and remember our kids are watching. When they see us set boundaries, recover from mistakes, and celebrate small wins, they learn resilience and self-respect. And we don’t skip the oxygen-mask truth: errands alone aren’t self-care. Real rest fuels better service, clearer leadership, and warmer parenting.

If you’re a working parent, a new founder, or anyone craving healthier boundaries, this conversation is your permission slip and playbook. Subscribe for more candid talks on entrepreneurship and family life, share this with a friend who needs a nudge, and leave a review to tell us which boundary you’re trying next.

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Meet The Hosts And Their Businesses

SPEAKER_01

Business solutions. Good morning. Thank you for joining us on this fine February Tuesday morning. I am Lauren Hill. I'm here with Jordan and Catherine. We are some busy working moms that are going to dive into what that lifestyle looks like and how we make it work for us.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Hi, I'm Catherine. Catherine Hare. And I'm Jordan with Revive Family Chiropractic.

Job Paths And Family Setups

SPEAKER_01

So we'll start out with kind of who we are, what we do, and then a basis of what our mom style or mom life is like. I sell insurance. So that's kind of what my day-to-day life is filled with, is super exciting insurance, fun stuff. I do that for the Trevor Randall Agency out of Edmund. We do service the entire state and surrounding states. So we have lots of variety that I get to see and work with. So with those, it comes with mostly home and autos, you know, boats, stuff like that. And then I have one son who is nine years old. So I am balancing that sales position and a nine-year-old. What about you, Catherine?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, my husband Rob and I run exterior cleaning professionals. So we do clean the outsides of your homes and businesses here in the metro. That includes power washing, pressure washing, soft washing. I love to educate people on the difference between those because I thought they were all the same. But we we manage that. And then we have two girls at home. I've got a one-year-old and a three-year-old. So Rob does the kind of field work. He does the actual cleaning. I do administrative work and wrangle the two girls during the week to keep everything kind of running as smoothly as possible.

SPEAKER_00

As smoothly as one and a three-year-old can make things. That's right. So I'm Jordan with Revive Family Chiropractic. My husband and I both own the office we opened in May of last year. We are in Moore and we are a very family-focused practice, though we work with all ages at all stages. We also have an eight-year-old, a five-year-old, and a four-year-old, all girls. He is the chiropractor at the office. I'm the office manager, and I'm also a counselor when I am not at the office. So we just kind of go with the flow, and we have to split up all of the things with the girls that we need to, and it just kind of looks different every week. Sometimes they're running around in the office, and sometimes they're running around at home.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. So you're really juggling three jobs, not just the two, but you've got a third one thrown in there as well. Beautiful motherhood. Third kid, third job. Exactly. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Every child, you have to have one additional occupation to keep you busy.

Why Shift To Entrepreneurship

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Otherwise, that kid's just going to stress you out a little bit more. But a hundred percent. So I'll kind of start out on mixing the parenting and work styles. Back when my son was born, I wasn't even in an office. I was bartending so that one person could always be home while the other was at work. So I was primarily home during the day and would work nights. While my husband would be able to work during the day, and then he'd get home, have the kiddo, and I'd change off. That didn't really feel fun when he started school though, because he was going to school all day. And when he'd get home, I was leaving, and we'd have maybe two, three hours a day sometimes to spend together. So I joined working in the insurance field and I had an office job. From 2020 to 2024, I was a customer service rep and I loved it. But I was tied to my desk and I was tied to that eight to five schedule. And if the kid had something going on, it was requesting time off and kind of completely changing out schedules or availability, not being able to be at school parties, you know, things like going to Valentine's Day party that I went to last week were not as achievable as they are now. So I made that decision to jump into sales that can be more demanding on us, that can take a lot more energy. And we work really weird hours, but it gives us that ability to take a one-hour break for a class party or a doctor's appointment, a sporting event, things like that. So I get to be much more present, ironically, at the school events and sporting events, even though I've taken on a more demanding job role in our office.

Networking Nerves And Purpose

SPEAKER_02

I feel like that's a trade-off with entrepreneurship that, you know, I'm sure anyone who's coming on this podcast is talking about one of their reasons for getting started is probably the freedom of their schedule. And that's a trade-off that you get freedom over your schedule. And oftentimes being some kind of entrepreneur requires you to do something that's probably outside of your comfort zone. So jumping from customer service to sales was probably a really scary thing to do. You feel a little bit vulnerable. Being a salesperson can be tough. So it is a trade-off that I think you have to, you have to make that decision. But you get the you get the freedom, but the work that you are doing is often it can be uncomfortable.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. No, absolutely. Because in any role as a sales, it's similar to as a business owner. You're taking that leap of faith on yourself. Your income is based on what you put into it, is what you get out of it as well. But you're doing that for your schedule availability for different reasons as well. So it's it's a trade-off where you may have maybe more financial security or more consistency. You can exceed a set a sales goal, sales expectations. Your business can double in size and exceed expectations. But as an hourly, you're just it's always consistent. You know what you can expect, things like that nature. So it was a really rough adjustment the first year, year and a half, building confidence. And I don't know about y'all, but I still, because I know networking is huge for us to go and get new business and leads. We go to new networking events, we walk, we walk into rooms where we don't know anybody. And that for me is terrifying sometimes. I'll park, be about to go into an event and be like, I'm here alone. I don't know if anybody I know is here yet or will be here. But then that birdie in the back of your mind is like, you're doing this for the family, you're doing it for your kiddo. And it just changes gears when you refocus who you're doing it for and what the purpose is.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. That actually brought up a question. Like, how do you think your parenting, either one of you, has prepared you for doing those things that are vulnerable or scary? Or like what do you take from parenting that helps you?

SPEAKER_00

Honestly, I think, you know, watching our kids grow up, we have to do a lot of things in including the advocacy for our kids and whether they're sick or hurt or something's going on at school that as an introvert was hard to kind of step out of my comfort zone and start advocating for my kids. Well, it wasn't hard to advocate for them, but you know, you're not used to doing that. And then going into opening our own business, we're still in that first year of trying to meet people and doing the networking, and now we're starting to plan events, and you know, you have that voice that you kind of adopted while you were advocating for your kids, and I get to use it elsewhere, but I also get to show them how to use that voice and how to step out of your comfort zone and that it is okay.

SPEAKER_01

Absolutely. I love that. I mean, everything with parenting, you could be on your first kid or your fifth kid, and every human is different, each baby is different. So you're always going to be throwing curveballs or I see parenting as we're also learning every single day. And that took some time, and it helped me a lot with forgiveness of towards myself as a parent, not being too per too much of a perfectionist, being down on myself for being at like I have an event this evening, so I'll be out of the house most of the afternoon or day and won't see them until bedtime. And but that's a rare occasion now, and figuring out how to not feel guilty about it, but be grateful for those situations and learning. So I guess yeah, backtracking, you're learning every day with the kid. Every kid is going to go through something different, every age is different. Every three months, it's a different human that you're working with. Their emotions have changed, their needs have changed. So I feel like that prepared me a lot for being in the insurance industry in a sales position where everything's constantly changing. It's never the same. We're always laws are changing, guidelines, whatever it might be, or even just like the landscape of networking has changed even over a year and a half to two years. So that definitely helps build up, I think, confidence on the work side when you can learn that confidence as a mom first.

Modeling Courage And Emotional Literacy

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely, yeah. And I mean, owning a business, you're getting curveballs every day or every week. There's gonna be things that you were not ready for. And so, yeah, parenting has helped help us prepare for that too. You just take it as it comes.

SPEAKER_02

I think it's like a muscle, and the more that you work it, and our kids are forcing us to work it because, like you said, they change constantly. I'm constantly faced with situations where I don't know what the answer is, but I'm going to figure it out. And so it's a muscle, and the more that you use it, the stronger that it gets. And then I think also what I take from parenting that helps me in entrepreneurship is they're looking at us. So if we want them to be brave, we should be brave. If we want them to advocate for themselves, then we should advocate for ourselves. We're we're a great example that they're always going to be watching. And so that's one thing that motivates me is I might not want to do it, but if I want her to grow up to be an adult who can do that for herself, then I have to show her that I can do it too.

SPEAKER_01

Absolutely. Like even just this morning, after a four-day weekend, I know everybody's president's days, professional days in Oklahoma City metro area were very different. So some schools were out Friday, Monday, some are out Monday, Tuesday, some aren't out this week, but they're out next week or were last week. But we were lucky enough to have a four-day weekend for the kid, not myself. You know, we all still worked. And this morning he had to go back to school. He made a comment like, I don't want to go back to school. This sucks. And I was like, well, you know, right now I really don't want to go to work today either. But we have to get over the feeling of not wanting to and find something positive. Five, 10 minutes later, we're dropping off at school. He's saying, Have a great day, and smiling, getting out of the car. So validating their feelings while still trying to teach them how to correct them is something I know I still work on as an adult too. We weren't necessarily all raised to be perfect or to understand our emotions. And then psychology has really changed over the last 15, 20 years. Our understanding of all that is different now, too. So it's just like, hey, I'm sorry if I was overwhelmed this day. I had a lot going on between work and I shouldn't have let it flow over into the house. So they can also learn, hey, you had a bad day at school, but we don't want to have a bad night at home because of a bad day, or we can talk it out. And we're we're learning and growing up together. I did have him really young, so that is a factor in it. But letting my child know that I'm learning with him, yeah, so that we can forgive each other through moments because I don't want to think I expect perfection from him because I'm perfect. We are not perfect as moms.

SPEAKER_02

For sure.

SPEAKER_01

But we like to think we are sometimes. We prefer to be called perfect moms or think that we are, but that just doesn't exist. There's no such thing as a perfect parent or a perfect schedule, perfect combination between your work life and your family life. Sometimes it's 75% work, 25% family, and then it'll flip the next week. But as long as you're paying attention to when it flips and you're not 75% work 85, 90% of the time, then everybody kind of sees that. And having your kids grow up watching you, modeling behaviors and attitudes that you want to see in them chasing goals. If your business is constantly growing and they see you chasing business goals, that trickles to their education and then what they do further in life, you know. Yeah, it's hard to think of them as 20-year-olds, but they will be in their careers.

SPEAKER_02

I cannot. They will be at this age forever.

Imperfect Balance And Growth

SPEAKER_01

Always care. What's that? But my baby will always be. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh, yes.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

100%.

SPEAKER_02

Tears every time. A little thing that we Rob does it better than I do, but in the mornings when she doesn't want, we've uh I'm mostly talking about our three-year-old because the one-year-old is just hanging. She's going, she's along for the ride. She would have been here today. She's usually always by my side. But there's days that the three-year-old doesn't want him to go to work. And, you know, that's tough. But we try to rephrase it instead of saying I have to work today, we say I get to go to work today. And it's just like an easy way to put that positive spin on it. So right now she loves school. She's so excited. But when there comes a day that she doesn't want to go, that'll help reframe it. You get to go to school, you get to see your friends, you get to play outside, you know, finding the positive things out there.

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely. Yeah, I love that. And like you said, getting on their level and saying, like, I have these emotions too. This is what I do, this is what helps me. What do you think you can do to help you? Or let's try, you know, focusing on the positives. What fun things can we do at school today? That all is so huge. And letting them see us being real with, you know, the difficulties in life. And also still getting out there every single day and choosing work, choosing our family, choosing to provide and to grow and to learn. We have that opportunity to do it. And it's it's a really awesome spin that we get to put on it as entrepreneurs.

SPEAKER_01

It feels really cool when you hit that achievement, but you're like, I'm going home to tell my family. And you know, or it means you get to provide something for your family that you've been needing or longing for. And it's a privilege to do what we do and even just to work in general, or to have the drive to work. Not a lot of people or not everybody has the same drive. Like a lot of people have kids, but they may not have that fire under them that entrepreneurs do. So nurturing ourselves is very important. I don't I think we need to emphasize too for all moms out there that take that bubble bath and lock the kids out of the bathroom for 45 minutes to an hour. Sit in there before you run the water, get away from it. Do what makes you feel relaxed for one hour a week, you know, something to reset. That one hour to recharge yourself. We tell our kids to recharge themselves. We may have a customer that's in a bad mood and tell them, call me back when you feel better. You know, we've all had that phone call. It's not great. We never give ourselves that same grace, though. We forget about hitting the reset button and relaxing. And I got to do a lot of that while being sick last week. But it just is something that you're gonna be a better mom and a better businesswoman if you are taking care of yourself as well. We can't forget about number one. For sure. Even though we put our kids number one, our business number two, we are always gonna be number one because if we can't function, we can't function for them.

SPEAKER_02

That's right. And going to the grocery store by yourself does not count as the means. It does not.

SPEAKER_01

Running your errands alone is not it. Cooking dinner with nobody in the kitchen is not it. Ordering little Caesars and having your husband pick it up on the way home, and you laying in bed by binge watching Netflix is what we're talking about. Just don't cook, don't clean tonight, just lay and be a couch potato. You have our ex our permission because you know self-care is necessary. Don't run your battery too low to provide for everybody around you.

Self-Care Without The Guilt

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. And I always like to put it in the phrase of, you know, they say you can't pour from an empty cup, and so true. And I like to see it as when you're on an airplane and the oxygen comes down. You can't help very many people if you don't have your oxygen mask on first. So you have to help yourself in order to help everybody else, in order to be the best mom that you can be and the best worker that you can be.

SPEAKER_01

Are there any moms that have been on an airplane and not laughed when they say to put your oxygen on first, though? Because you're like, That's true, I'm saving him first. Like, I'm gonna put it on my child next to me. You already know, but they're telling you because that's just your brain is wired to take care of your child first. But you do, you need to take care of yourself, and then you can take care of everybody around you that's struggling as well. That's so true. But it's always my favorite part of the plane, is every I'm like, it's gonna take two seconds for me to put it on my kid.

SPEAKER_02

You know I'm gonna do that.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, exactly. Uh yeah, that's always the best movement. Like, oh, okay, you want us to take care of ourselves first. Okay.

SPEAKER_02

But yeah, let me take care of my kids, then I'll take care of myself first, okay?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and I know especially with babies, that is the norm. But you know, you don't have to be stuck in baby face as a parent when your kids are no longer babies. So yeah, we forget that and be kind to yourself, forgive yourself as a mom. We make mistakes. That's so hard. So hard, very, very difficult, but really important.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And yeah, if your kid keeps acting up, like fine, just be like, how can I help? And then we give you a little tip on how to parent a little differently. Like, well, but when you do this, it actually makes me more mad. Uh-oh. Yeah. Well, then we can handle the situation a little bit better. Yeah, yeah. That's the joys of a preteen.

SPEAKER_00

Yep, we're right there too. Almost nine. Yeah, nine going on 19 feels fine. Yes, yeah, but they teach us so much. And it is, it's our job to to listen and to learn, but also to guide. And it's really difficult. And that transfers into the business too. We're listening, we're learning what our patients or our clients need. Yes. But we're also providing our expertise as well.

Boundaries At Home And Work

SPEAKER_01

Wow. That made me think of like there's that line, right, with your kids where you're you're friends with them, but you're a parent first. You have a friendship because you're always together and you do things together and you have fun. So to your kid, you're friends. To us, we're the parent, but that can get lost in translation to where they may not take certain things so serious or take advantage of situations. And that's something we are still, you know, redefining that line. We're your parents first. We love you, we want to have fun with you, we want to all have a good day every day. But sometimes you're gonna have to hate us for us to make you the person we need you to be as an adult and to break habits or to be respectful down the road. And those can be hard mom moments too, when you have to be the stern one and stick your foot on the ground and get onto them, and you really just want to hold them and give them kisses, but they're gonna test us, and we gotta have that boundary. And then clients will do the same thing. Sometimes we intermingle family and friends with business by taking care of each other, and that can mean maybe discounts are expected, better prices are expected that can cause tension in the deal, or like with the insurance, I can tell them what I think they should have coverage for, but I can't force anybody to buy a certain coverage. And then if something does come up, then I'm probably the one at the Thanksgiving table they're mad at, not the adjuster, not themselves, but the person who said you should buy it, but you didn't buy it. So it can put us in a stingy situation, but learning from our kids that you can have a business relationship and a personal relationship with somebody, and they don't have to change what that other one is like. You can walk away from the business side and still be friends, or your friendship can change over time, but for 25, 30 years, you always do business together and that never changes. Yeah. I'm just having that mutual respect boundary. Yeah, yes.

SPEAKER_02

One of the questions we have here is how does owning a business affect your parenting? And again, that I feel like that kind of speaks to it, holding these boundaries. Holding boundaries as a mom can be really tough. They're not always gonna like the boundaries that we have, and then holding boundaries as a business owner is really, really hard, especially like you said, when you're dealing with family or friends, but also just clients. Sometimes you're really trying to make the sales, sometimes you're committed to closing that deal. Uh-huh. And it's hard to let something go. And you want every everything to be a win. But not every client is your client, and not every person is going to be the one for you. And you don't, you don't want it, you don't want to be that forever. You don't want to be a yes man. So it's hard, but owning a business, having to hold those boundaries of these are whether it's these are my prices or sometimes it's these are my offerings. No, I'm not gonna come pick up your event trash. That's not what we do. I understand you want to pay me for it and I want to accept your money, but that's not what we do, and I need to hold that line. So that's definitely something that crosses over into parenting and into business owning, is having to hold those boundaries.

SPEAKER_01

Do y'all struggle with turning the phone off after five o'clock or ignoring the phone after a certain time? I feel like that is one thing, no matter how hard we try, or I tell people I don't work after this time. If you get a referral or somebody calls with a question, innately you're just picking up that phone at 5:30, 6.30 p.m. when it should be family time, dinner time. Are y'all facing that as well? Have you learned some tricks that help you with that, or just kind of self-control of don't answer, call back tomorrow?

SPEAKER_00

I mean, honestly, we're still working on it because we're still in that first year of just trying to get our business up and on its feet and going. So we want to be readily available to everybody and we want to be everything for everybody, and we're learning those good boundaries, and there have been some hard lessons that we've already learned to set those boundaries up and hold them in place. And it's helped a lot, but yeah, we're still working on this the setting the phones down and and not responding to any potential patients or any referrals until we absolutely need to. But yeah, just finding those boundaries for ourselves, I think, is the biggest issue.

Saying No To Protect Your Yes

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it is. I've started, I typically still answer the phone, unfortunately, but I have started making it a quick like, hey, thank you so much. Who sent you? I appreciate it. I'm going to set a time to call you tomorrow, or if any time works, I'll just give you a call in the morning and we can connect whenever you're free if I can't catch you. Like, I appreciate you calling. I want to work with you, but I'm not gonna do business with you at 7 p.m. Cause that's when you thought to call the insurance lady when buying a house. I'll call you tomorrow. I'll work work on the quote tomorrow and kind of do that. Cause for a long time I wasn't doing that. And then they would continue every day calling at that six, seven o'clock hour to ask questions, make changes where it wasn't just a one-time contact to get it started. That's what they thought my hours were, my availability was. So even if I do talk to somebody after hours, I have started to kind of train myself to set a boundary. Like I'll talk to you tomorrow. Have a good evening with your family. And I always throw in enjoy your evening with your family or enjoy your evening after a long day at work. Yeah, you know, something that is, I truly mean it, but it's also a reminder to them that this is also my time off from working today and my time with my family. So that just happens. Yeah. But when you're trying to grow your business, the first few years and you're the baby business, you don't want to say no because you need the business and you're trying to grow it as much and as quick as you can. But at the same time, not everybody is for us. Our business consultant taught me a long time ago, every no is closer to gets you closer to a yes. So the no's are also a win because you learn what not to do in the phone calls, or you know, what type of clientele isn't for you, or you're not for them. And every time somebody says no, you learn how to get closer to a yes. Yes. Absolutely. You need to stop spending time on a no.

SPEAKER_00

And I think you make yourself more valuable that way too, that you're not gonna bend and break for every single person. Your time is valuable and you're showing that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_02

When we first opened, we had to do the lovely Google profile that I'm sure you guys have had experience with. It's kind of a pain. But we set our hours, and Rob set the hours to that we were open 24-7. And so he and the idea was that like there are some commercial locations where if we're gonna clean them, it's gonna be overnight. Right. So we will do overnight jobs, gas stations or something like that, car washes or overnight. So he wanted to make sure it was conveyed that hey, we will do these kinds of gigs. However, by putting his hours at as 24-7, he left his phone on loud all night, and he thought, you know, being so fresh in the business, if the phone rings, I'm gonna answer it.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

After-Hours Calls And Expectations

SPEAKER_02

And so that's how we started. Luckily, my number is not the one that's out there, so I don't deal with a whole lot of phone calls that I have to say no to, but I deal with not reading an email after, you know, I'm like, who knows what this email entails? Um, and is it gonna make me feel like I need to go take care of whatever that task is immediately? So I'm gonna save it for tomorrow. That's challenging. Rob does pretty much the same that you do, Lauren, where if we get a call after hours, he'll touch base with them and and you know, say, yeah, we'd love to work with you. Let me give you a call first thing in the morning, and you know, we'll go from there. I think the only like absolute that we have is there are no phones at the dinner table. And we find that to be really valuable because that's a good time that we all sit around and talk about our day and highs and lows and things like that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Yeah. I think Rob may have been where I started to do that from la this time last year when we kind of started meeting and the group formed. And I know that was something we all kind of talked about in the beginning. So that may be where I heard it from to begin with. Was like I am so gonna answer because sometimes it is an emergency. It may be a client that you guys have worked with for a long time, or a homeowner that I have, and their pipes burst, or there was a fire, and they need you guys to come clean something real quick because the grease just spilled and there's no delivery trucks that'll drive on a grease-covered driveway, that kind of thing. Emergencies happen for sure. And last second things happen for sure. But having those expectations is a huge thing for success at home and in the business. So, and our expectations are allowed to change as our business changes and we change, we're allowed to change how we do our procedures. And I just make sure when I work with a realtor or a lender, I communicate those changes with them or expectations. And it seems to go pretty smooth from there. Yeah, not hitting people out of the blue with random info or not having your things in order is gonna be detrimental. But as long as you communicate, even, hey, I need five days to get this together for you, they will appreciate not wondering where you are, and they'll on day five, hey, I got it for you, and they'll be appreciative that it was on the time that you had adjusted to.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and I think one thing that we learned in starting the business was there's a lot of people out there who just don't answer the phones. They don't pick them up. We have on on our end had several businesses we've wanted to work with or had different experiences, and they don't pick up the phone. So we do find it important to pick up the phone, but you can control kind of you you have control over your time, you control what that phone call is gonna be like. You can you can say, Hey, thank you so much for calling. I'm in the middle of this, I'd love to get back with you. Or you don't even have to say that you're busy, but you can say, Thanks so much for calling. I'd love to do that. Let me get some basic information and I will call you first thing in the morning.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, any communication is communication. Sure. And just not leaving them on red or ghosting them is yes, is vital.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. One thing our office created is the use job form. Huge fan. So I can just text somebody in the evening, hey, you reached out for a quote. I can call you tomorrow to get your info. But if you have a few minutes, you can fill out this link right now. And that's something that I'd say 60, 70% of the time it does get filled out, but it still leaves that gap where you can get distracted, things can come up, and you forget to circle back to it. Um, and sometimes it's just like, cool, I'll do that in a few days because I'm not in a rush and we all forget about it, kind of thing. So I'll follow up the next day if they're calling in the evening. I'll email myself, I email myself reminders all the time. I don't know about them all. My calendar is full, I email myself things to do. So I love my to-do list is my email my email inbox. If it's in the inbox, it needs to be done. So I can even email myself and I'll do it task by task. So I don't send a whole list of five things in one email.

SPEAKER_02

But so are you are you an inbox zero person?

SPEAKER_01

Yes. Okay. I never really, unless I'm out for a couple of days, I don't have more than 10 to 15 emails in my inbox any given time. That's impressive. I'm very OCD about my emails. My personal Gmail is at 60 right now, and that's driving me crazy because I was sick last week and wasn't deleting all the junk mail that came through.

SPEAKER_02

But I would love to be an inbox zero person. When I was in the W-2 world, I was an inbox zero person. But that's because I was also sitting on my hands a lot of the time. But uh now, not so much.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Now I do struggle with I have a to-do list. Now I don't want to stop working if I'm working from home and then it'll be six o'clock. And I'm not talking to people or like finishing a cell, but I'm going through my to-do list and doing busy work. But I get in the zone. When I get in the zone, I'm getting it done.

SPEAKER_02

So that flow state is important.

SPEAKER_01

It is it's so nice when you hit the flow state. It's never when you want it, though. Like if you have a Monday to play catch up and do nothing but computer stuff, you're gonna be so ADHD out of nowhere and not know what to focus on. But the day you're insanely busy, I will like hone in. But it takes a little longer because I'm being a perfectionist.

SPEAKER_00

But get them a hyper focus stage of yes.

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SPEAKER_01

Well, this has been very beneficial for myself. I hope you guys have kind of benefited from this and all of our listeners as well, the mamas, dads as well. Take care of yourselves. If you're a single dad acting as mom and dad in both spots, then this is just as much for you as it is for us ladies. You're going through those pains too. Again, I am Lauren Hill with the Trevor Randall Agency. You can connect it with me over the phone or through text at 405-796-8655.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_00

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SPEAKER_02

And I'm Katherine Hare with Exterior Cleaning Professionals. You can find us on Google or you can go to our website and learn more about us at exteriorcleaningprose okc.com.

SPEAKER_01

Thank you guys so much for listening to us today. And we'll catch you on the next episode. Bye. Bye.