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Join Alyssa and Janaye on a special episode as they explore the scriptures uncovering our new found freedom and understanding the resurrection story. Learn about Jesus ultimate sacrifice.
Welcome back everyone. This is Alyssa, you're one of your hosts, and you're listening to Saved and Sanctified. We're glad you're here. Today we're gonna be talking about the resurrection and yeah, just the reason behind it, our point of view is on it as well, too, and see where else the Holy Spirit will lead us, because you never know. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_02Today it's just the girls. Yes. Yep, just Janae and Alyssa today, but I'm excited because I think it is written.
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_03Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_01So it'll be good. I'm excited. Yeah. We have a lot of scriptures, a lot of good stuff.
SPEAKER_00Mm-hmm. Okay, I'm excited too.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, just talking about the resurrection and why we should care about it. Yeah. All right. I'm gonna go ahead and open us in prayer and then we're just gonna jump right in. Dear Lord, thank you for this day. Thank you for this time that we just get to gather here. Um and just read through your word, Father God. We just pray that your words would um flow through our lips, Lord God, that you would just give us fresh revelation this evening, Lord, and that you would just continue to work and speak through us, Lord. And um, we just thank you and praise you for who you are. In Jesus' name, amen.
SPEAKER_00Amen.
SPEAKER_01All right. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So what happened?
SPEAKER_01What happened? What did happen?
SPEAKER_02A lot happened.
SPEAKER_01A lot happened in three days. That's true. You know. Um well, in the beginning, Jesus was born. That's why we have Christmas. Um, and then Easter or Resurrection Sunday, however you want to call it, um, basically it starts with Good Friday. And that's when Jesus died for our sins. You know, that was when he entered Jerusalem and um it was prophesied in Zechariah, I think 9-9. I learned today, but in Zechariah, um, it was prophesied that the Son of Man would come in on that day of his death on a donkey. And I thought that was so cool that you know, a lot of people when they're looking back at Good Friday, they're like, why was he on a donkey? Like a king should be riding in on a white horse or something royal, you know, like a chariot or I don't know what their culture was. But this was like so humbling, you know. It was like he chose the lowest of animals to ride in on, but it was also just like a fulfillment of Old Testament of prophecy. Prophecy.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. That was Palm Sunday, right? When he w when he drove. Okay. Sorry, getting held.
SPEAKER_01Okay, that was Palm Sunday, because that was when he entered in leading up to Good Friday.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, where it was the last supper on Thursday, and then it was the Good Friday of his.
SPEAKER_01Betrayed leading up to the epic betrayal.
SPEAKER_03Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and it's wild because like he told his disciples that this was gonna happen. I think a lot of them just didn't want to believe that he was gonna be crucified. And also that he was gonna like resurrect and come from the li come from the come back to life.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Which I don't know if I would like a hundred percent believe him or not. You know? Cause it's like, yes, the disciples were walking with him, they were seeing him do all these miracles, they were learning from him firsthand, but you know, it's like they still have that human side. So I feel like there's still a part of them that Jesus kind of maybe knew that they would doubt him a little bit.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Well, I think it also ties into like them not having the Holy Spirit yet, I think too, because I feel like they didn't get to fully understand or believe things because the Holy Spirit was in there like guiding them. And they didn't get until like Pentecost, which was like ten days, I think, after Jesus came back and all that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. But yeah.
SPEAKER_01Um well in Philippians 2, 8, it says, and being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to death, even death on a cross. Which is insane. You think like he is just living a normal life growing up as a kid, and then all of a sudden he turns 30 and Jesus starts his ministry. And with that, like with this in the back of his mind, of like he already knew he was going on the cross, he already knew what that entailed. Everyone in town knew what a crucifixion was and what it entailed. And so for him to just know that but still be faithful in that is just crazy to me. Yeah. But I think it's different because like he knew what was gonna happen next. I think a lot of the disciples were like, You're gonna die. What? And he's like, No, but I'm gonna come back and it's gonna be better. Like this needs to happen. I need to go and I need to die. I need, you know, not just to fulfill prophecy, but also to just bring a new level of freedom. You know, and so he did. Three days later, he rose from the grave. He defeated death and, you know, put us back in right standing with God. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And he was um, what was it? He was like anointed with like the oil and all that on Good Friday, I believe, or was it Thursday, I guess. Um, and then he was like, well, just getting ready to be like sacrificed, like he knew that. I can only imagine like how like he said, it says he had to humble himself and to be obedient to the word, to God's will. Yeah, because you know, Jesus was human too, so of course he probably didn't want to die or to feel that much pain, but like he had to for us. Um yeah, it's just like it just makes me feel even more thankful knowing that.
SPEAKER_01Oh yeah, you know, yeah. Well, even just the fact that like God loves us so much that you know, John 3 16, he sent his only begotten son, you know, so that we can, you know, walk with him, so that we can communicate with him, so that, you know, we can be in right standing with him. And it's just like, you know, some people see it as like a sad story, but I feel like it's just so beautiful when you look at like the heart behind it, and it's like God was grieved. I mean, in the Bible it says that when he took his final breath, like the earth shook. And I just imagine that's like you know, in the movies when like a dad finds out like one of his children died, like they like hit their knees and they're just like weeping. And I just feel like in that moment, God was just like, wow, it's real, like this moment actually happened, you know, because you think we have big hearts, he has an even bigger heart. That's true, and so it's just so cool to kind of think about and just like remember his actions and how crucial they were, you know, because now we have the ability to grow spiritually, you know, we can live in faithfulness now because we're not separated from God in the way that like the disciples in that generation was separated.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that's true.
SPEAKER_02I think even like about like what happened and like the crucifixion and him like being up there, like I just watched that movie, The King of Kings. So Oh yes, I feel like that like brought things to life. I was literally weeping like every every instance of just hearing about Jesus. But on the cross, there's the criminals hanging beside him, right? And then there's the man who's saying, one guy's being like, Oh, prove yourself, and you know, why don't you just save yourself? And then the other one is saying, like, Jesus, remember me when you come, when you come into your kingdom, and he's like telling him, like, I assure you, today you will be with me in paradise. Even on that, there, he's like telling him, like, you will be with me too, because he knew his heart. And like, he just like, I mean, I think he's even showing like how that's what like he does for us, of like, I don't know, just having so much like being so humble and like full of mercy and grace that he was like knowing that that man would be with him in paradise one day, too. And even after, I think it's like you're saying there was like a darkness that overcame the earth and all that. I think I know like on Saturday they call it like I don't know what they call it actually, but yeah, it's just it's wild. I I just like how it gives us a picture of just how it how it was every time it just makes me cry.
SPEAKER_01But yeah, and it shows like God's character, you know, in their final moments, Jesus still wanted to see men saved. You know, it's like he could have just been up there on the cross, like not caring about who was around him, just like trying to finish the thing. Yeah, but you know, but he took that time where I feel like he could barely get words out. You know, this man had just been brutally beaten. I think he was probably bleeding out by that point. And you know, if you I haven't really studied the cross, but like if you are hanging on the cross, like your lungs are like restricted. So you have to like push up on the nails in your feet to breathe. And so it's painful to breathe. So for him, you know, I imagine him just feeling this like excruciating amount of pain just to talk to this man, you know, just so Barabbas can have that peace. And it was just, I think it's such a cool moment of like he wants us to be saved. Yeah, he wants to see us again. And it just reminds me of like Psalms 86, 5, where it says, You Lord, are forgiving and good, abounding in love to all who call to you. You know. Um, Barabbas was bold enough to be like, hey, and ask for that salvation and you know, reach for it. And Jesus met him halfway and was like, Yes. You know, it's like if you're willing to just have that ounce of faith, he'll meet you where you're at. And he's only able to do that now because Jesus took his final breath on the cross. You know, well, yeah, but it's just like a beautiful picture in those moments of like his love, his mercy, you know, his holiness, all those things can be experienced through what Jesus did. Yeah, that's true.
SPEAKER_03Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_02Even like in First Peter 1 3, I think it says, like, all praise to God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. It is by his great mercy that we have been born again because God raised Jesus from the dead. Now we live with great expectation. And then it also talks about like how we have an inheritance, great inheritance. Um, and through faith, like we are protected and we have salvation. And I think there's just so much, or it just reminds us like that Jesus had to do had to die on the cross so that we could also be born again, or so in a way he could defeat death and show us that we can be born again when we believe in him or we can be saved. Um just like in the Old Testament, in the beginning, like Jesus or God created a man and woman, you know, Adam and Eve, and he told them one thing: don't eat the apple, don't like don't do that. And what they do, they ate the apple, that apple. And I know I was doing some like I was learning about it where it was saying, like, it was because like they sinned because they they wanted to be like God, like they they thought they could do better than him.
SPEAKER_01They're like, oh, like, you know, like it was interesting, more of like I know like the serpent was um kind of testing Eve and like kind of manipulating her mentally, trying to like get her to be like, oh, God just doesn't want you to be like him. You know, he wants to keep you separated, he wants to keep you on a lower level. Yeah, like and you know, it kind of like was playing into that human nature of like we want to be the top dog, we want to be, you know, the biggest star, we want to be the center of attention, and I feel like she might have had a little bit of that, and that's why you know, Satan targeted that and was like, Oh, I have the perfect way to get you to do it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Because Adam only ate the fruit because his woman came over and was like, Oh, honey, you gotta try this. And he's like, Okay, I guarantee you she didn't even tell him that it was the forbidden fruit.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I wonder. Never thought of that.
SPEAKER_01Because you think about it, there was like a thousand fruits in that garden. So he's probably just like I'm wondering doesn't know the difference.
SPEAKER_02So he's like, Oh, okay, sure, and eats it, and then all of a sudden, he's like, Well, their eyes are open and they're like, What the heck? Yeah, but because back then, or in the Garden of Eden, there was they were in perfect relationship with God. They that's what God intended for all of us was to be in perfect relationship with him, not dealing with sin or anything like that to like that would like because that makes us not be able to be in his presence, you know? Yeah, then eventually in history in like Exodus, God pulls his people out and or he banishes Adam and Eve to like the earth, and he's like, You can't be in the Garden of Eden anymore. And then now there's like just you know, they're having to just live life without him, or not in perfect relationship with him, because they still have a relationship with him.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Um they're just kind of separated from him.
SPEAKER_02But then like eventually he sends Moses to save his people from Israel, and after that, in like in Leviticus, I believe he starts, he makes the law, or is it I feel like it's Leviticus, the commandments. Um and he makes the law, and eventually there's like festivals and all that too that they pat that they celebrate. Um, but he makes those things so people can be in right relationship with God as best as they could, like to be atoned for their sins, to be forgiven. Um and that's what they used to have to do in the Old Testament. Doing these like ceremonies, um, the priest would have to, you know, do these sacrifices for the people so they could be forgiven and they could, you know, be for will be forgiven for their sins, you know, and um yeah, like so that's how it was um before. And but also like in the old testament, they just kept we just kept messing up left and right of like people forgetting about God and um falling away, worshiping other idols, and yeah, in literally wandering the desert or the wilderness for 40 years because of their like them forgetting about God. Like, I think that that um could have been a lot shorter of a journey if they didn't do what they did.
SPEAKER_01Um well and too, it's like God created us to dwell with him. You know, he wants to have a relationship with us. I think that's why he created humanity. You know, he didn't want to be alone, he created the heavens and the earth to dwell in, but at the same time, it's not fun having a mansion with no one to fill the rooms with. That's true, you know, and so it's like what Adam and Eve did was separate us from God, yeah. And then, you know, it's like pain and suffering and trials and temptations came into play and all those things, but the main issue that they created was the separation from God, and I like broke his heart. And I think from that moment on he was like, Okay, how do I fix this? How do I get back in right standing with my children? And that's probably you know, he was like, All right, I'm gonna have to get Jesus on the earth, and he's gonna have to do this so that we can have the life that we get to have now.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Which I can't imagine not being able to just like pray about everything to God. You know, because back then, like they had to burn incense or like sacrifice an animal just to like cleanse themselves so that God could come and have a conversation with them. And it's like, man, the amount of animals I'd be sacrificing.
SPEAKER_02But even then they couldn't have an actual conversation. It was the priests, it was the people who hire. But I think also like God like He knew that we were gonna mess up because it wasn't like a mistake or anything. It was really like he knew because Jesus was already there in the beginning, you know, like in John it says, like, in the beginning was the word, and the word was God, and the word was with God. So it's like talking about Jesus, and it's like he already knew he was gonna have to sacrifice Jesus because he knew that we were gonna mess up. Like he he knew, yeah. I mean, he of course he like knows like everything, but I think, and even in the Old Testament, it like foreshadows like how he's saying, like, someone will come, there will be a Messiah um coming to like crush the head of the enemy, to like defeat death once and for all. And even like with Adam and Eve, like it was the separation from God, but it was or separation from like his presence and having a perfect perfect relationship with him. It was also like the death, spiritual death. Like, of course, we physically die in our bodies, but like spiritual death, that's what you have before you believe like that Jesus came and died for you. Like, that's how one is like they're just not alive until they actually learn the truth, and then they become alive, like spiritually, and they're able to really like do life on earth like differently, like with the Holy Spirit. But yeah, yeah, and um, I think even one thing that's so cool, like that I've learned is like in the old testament how they sacrificed like this perfect lamb and Jesus was the perfect lamb. Or they call like John calls him the Lamb of God.
SPEAKER_05Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_02And like how he had to be that perfect sacrifice, um so that we can be forgiven for our sins. Um and I mean, I think it's important for People to to know like the history too, to know like what happened, so that we can understand like why we need him. Like, why do we need a savior?
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Why are we here?
SPEAKER_01Well, and I thought too, I discovered First Corinthians 15, um 21 and 22 the other day, and I just thought it was so cool. So it says, For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. And I'm like, I've never noticed that scripture.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And I've studied the Corinthians a few times, and I was like, How do I miss that? But you know, I just thought it was so cool that it was like preparing for this topic. God was like, Oh, look at this. And it's like, oh, that's so cool. That yeah, because of Adam and Eve's actions, you know, a lot of scholars believe that Adam was not the first Jesus, but like the first foreshadowing of Jesus in the Bible. Really? Yeah. How?
SPEAKER_03I'm curious.
SPEAKER_01I want to know. I haven't studied it too much, but a lot of um scholars will say that like because he was the first man that God created, he was the first man that God dwelt with. You know, and then he brought Eve along because he was like, you shouldn't be alone. You need a woman, um, because we're amazing. Um but you know, it's like, and then because of his actions, him eating the fruit, you know, the fall happened, as we'll say. And so we were pronounced, I don't want to say dead, but like spiritually, we were separated, and so Christ had to come onto the earth, take a human form, and restore that which was made dead. Yeah, and that's how we have eternal life.
SPEAKER_03Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that's true.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, because I think a lot of people are like, they have that question of like, well, why did he have to be a man? Why did he have to come and live? Like, couldn't he have just if God is God and is you know powerful, which he is, but like, you know, people will say that in like a like condescending way, in a way. Um, they're like, Why couldn't he have this? Like, because he had to, because I think if he would have done it that way, they would have been like, well, he's God, so he did it. Like it like he doesn't understand. Or I think also we needed Jesus to live on this earth so that we can relate to him as humans because we know he was human and he it says it in the word how he was tempted just as us. I mean, even after he was baptized, like he's in the wilderness like 40 days being tempted by Satan, like left and right, like any which way. He talks about a couple of the ways, but I'm sure like there's a lot more.
SPEAKER_01Um, yeah, I think the Bible gives us like three examples. Yeah, just three, which are I doubt he was only tested three times in 40 days.
SPEAKER_02No, like the enemy he tries any which way.
SPEAKER_01Um but I think But even too, like the people while he was on the cross, you know, we hear like I don't know if it was the Pharisees, but whoever, you know, they're yelling at Jesus and they're like, if you truly are the Son of God, you know, bring yourself down from the cross. You know, like taunting him, mocking him. And yes, he very well could have got himself down.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01You know, even in the Bible it talks about, you know, Jesus before, you know, during the betrayal before he was captured. Like he could have called down an army of heaven to wipe those soldiers out and get away unscathed, but that wasn't the plan.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01He knew the plan, and that was the only plan because he prayed three times for a new plan, and God said no. He's like, you're waiting for and he's like, Okay, this is the plan. This is the way, this is what we're doing. And you know, it's like we always say Jesus is the way, the truth, the life.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01That wouldn't be true if the crucifixion never happened. Yeah, that's true, you know, because he is the way because he chose God's way. You know, he is the truth, he is the life. And if he didn't die and rise again, he wouldn't be the life. Yeah. So there wouldn't be any point to him continuing his time on earth, you know, just to live a happy life. It's like, no, he knew from the moment that he was put on the earth that this is what he had to do. And it's just so amazing because we needed that forgiveness. Yeah. You know.
SPEAKER_02And even touching on that verse you were saying in First Corinthians, like, I think verse 23 talks about but there is an order to this resurrection. Christ was raised as the first of the harvest, then all who belong to Christ will be raised when he comes back. But I think like what stands out to me is like order, like how God is a God of order, so he needed this to happen in a particular way. Because he's he could have done that other things, but that's not him being a god of order. That's just doing whatever he wants, and that's not that's not how God um it's just not how God um what is the word? Like it's not how he works. He's a God of order, he does things for a reason, for a purpose, not just because he's almighty and the true God, like he he does these things for our benefit, for his, but also for his kingdom, for his will, for um others to see, like how he is different than any other lowercase God, you know, like all these other things, like in the world, you know, he's he Jesus is different from any other, or just Christianity in general, like believing in Jesus is different than any other um religion too, because none of their other people they didn't um what is it, they didn't sacrifice themselves and humble themselves and have you know have to die and I mean come back to life, but have so much pain um and literally bleed out for each and every one of us who believe in him, you know, like he Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Well, and none of these other gods gave us a gift. Hello? Yeah, because he tells Jesus done died for us, and then was like, listen, I'm gonna give you something, I'm gonna leave someone with you when I depart. You know, he's telling the disciples this probably the day before he was about to go and be betrayed and crucified. And you know, in Acts 2, 1 through 4, it talks about when the Holy Spirit fell upon the disciples. Yeah, you know, it talks about it as the blowing of a violent wind coming from heaven, you know, and it just filled the whole house that they were in. You know, they started speaking in tongues and they just were filled new with this new spirit that they've never had before, you know, and it was the spirit that Jesus was operating with. And so it's like Jesus knew he had to leave so that when he resurrected from the grave, we would have eternal life and we would be able to have the same power that he did. You know, the ability to do all the things that he was doing on earth.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, through his authority, because it says Jesus has the full authority, but it's that Holy Spirit that's in us, that dwells in us, that gives us authority as believers too, when we call on Jesus' name. Um, yeah. That's true. And even like in John 16, verse 7, it talks about before it's talking about how he's gonna go away, and he's like, you know, you're asking why I'm going, and you're grieved. He's like, but it's in fact, it's best for you that I go away, because if I don't, the advocate, which is the Holy Spirit, won't come. If I do go away, then I will send him to you. And when he comes, he will convict the world of its sin and of God's righteousness and the coming of judgment. Um, but he's saying, like, he's telling them, like, it's better for me to leave because then the Holy Spirit's able to come into every single believer. You know, Jesus being here, the Holy Spirit was in him. But when he died, it allowed the Holy Spirit to like be available to all of us, which is like that just came to my mind right now. I was like, huh. Um, but it's like that's the only way. So then now the Holy Spirit dwells within every single one of us, and I feel like it's an even um bigger, or in a way, like group or army, like of people that are able to like tell others about Jesus and evangelize and bring others to him more and disciple others as well, too. Like, there's just like he's talking about like it's so much, there's more power, and even tells them too, I think. And then um, somewhere in the gospels where he's like saying, like, how you will do more than I even did, like, we will do greater things than him. And it's like, what? Because Jesus did some, like they even talked about in here too, how it says like Jesus, like the stuff he did couldn't even fill the books, like it would be just yeah, it's like never-ending. I mean, I'm like, just next to be like, dang man, I wish we could have really known, but one day in heaven, you know.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I'm gonna be sitting there at his feet, just like listening to all the stories.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, like tell me everything.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but I think it's cool too, like a couple chapters earlier in John 14, verse 26, it talks about the advocate whom the father will send in my name. You know, so Jesus was telling his disciples, he's like, Look, you're gonna have someone who empowers you. You're gonna have someone who guides you through the trials of life. Yeah. You're gonna have someone to lead you in a deeper relationship with God, you know, but that can only happen if this happens.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And, you know, it's so cool for us now to look back and be like, wow, Jesus was like, look, I don't want you to feel abandoned. I don't want you to feel like I'm just leaving you. Like I'm leaving you because someone greater is coming. Which I feel like was hard for the disciples to kind of fathom, like greater than Jesus, like you're the son of God, you're the Messiah, you're the one we've been waiting for, the one that's been prophesied. Like, who could be better than you? And he's like the Holy Spirit, you know, so it it's cool when you think about it, it's like, you know, it's kind of a comfort for us of like, yes, he went through all this gruesome pain and trial and everything, but it was all for our benefit. Yeah, it was all so that we could be forgiven, so that we could be back in God's love, back in his grace, back in his mercy, you know, and we can receive his mercies, which are new for us every day. Yeah, you know, it's true. Back then it was very different, but now it's like we just receive things freely from God because that veil was torn.
SPEAKER_03You know, yeah.
SPEAKER_02And even just like I could speak on like this for a time, I think when I like believed, I believed in Jesus, like I knew God was real and stuff like that, but I didn't know that the Holy Spirit like came and dwelled in us when we like said Jesus is like Lord of our lives and we give our lives over to him. Like I had just thought I had to do it on my own, and I wasn't aware of like the whole thing. Um, and then when I found that out, I feel like there was a new, there was a like a life that came up in me where I was just like, oh, like I'm not alone. Oh, I have the Holy Spirit. Oh, it's not all on me. It's the Holy Spirit working through us and in us and giving us new life and convicting us and um leading us to like repentance and leading us closer to God. Like that's what as we like learn about the resurrection, what it does, and we believe it, um, that's what like on this earth, that's what we continue to like have to remind ourselves of like remembering like the Holy Spirit's here with us daily as we're walking this life. Yeah. Um, 'cause it's gonna be hard. There's gonna be trials, there's gonna be suffering. It says that on the word.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02You know?
SPEAKER_01Well, and then I too, I feel like whenever I start to go through something hard or like I've gone through a lot of like physical ailments, I guess. Um and it's like I'll be going through it in the thick of it, and I'm like, God, you just don't understand. And it's like, how dare I? Okay, I don't know what 39 lashes feels like, or being hung on a cross for I don't even know how many hours he was up there. You know, it's like, I don't know how that feels, but here I am, just a little baby, just like, you don't understand what I'm feeling right now. Yeah, and he's like, but I literally do, I do, you know, and so it's like those moments where it's like, oh, wait, he does. Yeah, he did love on the earth, he was tempted, he did feel massive amounts of pain, you know, mentally, emotionally, physically. I mean, bro was sweat and blood. He was so terrified. So it's like, talk about feeling every emotion. He's felt it, and so I feel like that's always a very humbling moment for me to be like, oh, I need to fix my heart. You know, because it's like it like you were saying, it is something we should be reminding ourselves of daily.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Is like this is what he did so that we could live an amazing life with God at the center of it. You know, because so many, you know, you think like Moses and Abraham, like they would have loved to have the relationship with God that we do now to have that oneness because you think they were they were able, like Moses saw the glory of God. That's why his hair turned white and he probably passed out. But it's like there was still a level of separation that they had with God, and so it's like I feel like sometimes we take it for granted like how great of a gift the death and resurrection was. You know? That's true, yeah. Or at least I do.
SPEAKER_02Well, yeah, because like I feel like I don't think God ever talked to them like in the Old Testament about like eternal life and how we will live be able to live with him and dwell with him forever. Like, I don't I don't see that was mentioned in there a lot. Maybe maybe a little.
SPEAKER_01Um maybe the to the Israelites, because they were like God's chosen people, but I don't know, I think it really wasn't mentioned until Jesus was operating in his ministry. Yeah. Because they the old testament people, like they were just waiting for this Messiah to come. And then he came and they didn't believe him.
SPEAKER_02But yeah, they were waiting for a savior, but they had their own mindset of what it was. They thought of it as the world did of these rulers and these kings that came and destroyed and killed and did like Jesus is like, that's not yeah, it's not it's not it's not what they needed, to be honest. They thought they needed that, and it's like no one's not.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that they're like, Oh, but you know, he's he's a a carpenter's son. Like, how how can he be a king? Yeah, you know, and I because they did the same thing with David, yeah, you know, they only saw him as a shepherd boy, they couldn't see him as a king until all of a sudden he's chilling on the throne, you know, and it's like God continued to do that, and it's like they were so focused on what they thought he should look like, and I feel like sometimes I still do that, you know, with certain situations or you know, certain prayers. I'm like, okay, I I'm gonna lay it out for you so that you know how to answer my prayers. And I think I make God laugh a lot because he's just like, no, we're gonna do the exact opposite. Yeah, you know, because it's like we I feel like I have to like stay in a mindset of like humbling myself and like repenting and be like, I'm sorry, I kept trying to take control. Like, I'm just gonna take the back seat. Like, I'll go sit in the back, like you can drive, you can do the whatever you need to do, whatever you feel is right, you know, because obviously that was Jesus' mindset.
SPEAKER_00So why shouldn't that be mine? Yeah, that's true, because he was just wanting the Father's will to be done.
SPEAKER_02Um I think it brings it reminds me of um Psalm 51, verses 10 through 12, where it says, Create in me a clean heart, O God, renew a loyal spirit within me. Do not banish me from your presence, and don't take your Holy Spirit from me. Restore to me the joy of your salvation and make me willing to obey, to obey you. Um like it's like that's something we have to constantly be praying, or yeah, I know from yeah, like constantly be praying to God, like asking to clean our heart, to renew his spirit within us, and um don't ask him not to take the Holy Spirit away, but also like to remind him to especially verse 12, it says, Restore to me the joy of your salvation and make me willing to obey. Like we have to be reminded of the joy that we are saved and also want to obey the Lord. So I think sometimes like after we become saved or we learn about Jesus, um then we can get caught up in like the world again, too, where we're just trying to live and trying to put God in it somehow. But he calls us all to share about this good news with other people, with the people that we encounter, with the people that um come into our lives, that he puts into our lives. Um, and it's like us remembering that, remembering how we were saved, what what he brought us from so that we could tell others too, and we don't get caught up in just like us trying to just live this life the way that like keeping our like it even talks about it in the Bible about keeping our mindset on heavenly things, like remembering like eternity is the I mean the goal, it is a gift that we do get, but the gift right now is like the Holy Spirit in us, but we know that one day we will be in eternal in his his glory with with him. Um, but right now we're here to, you know, just like Jesus, bring more people in, tell more people the truth and stuff like that. And it's important for us to um, I mean, especially like I think in the season of like Easter and resurrection and kind of thinking about it, I think there's at times where I even myself years ago I was like just remembering God in these holidays where I was just like, Easter, he's risen, yeah, post averse, Christmas, he's more like you know, the CEOs. I used to be Easter only. Yes, that used to be me. Um and it's just like I think it's it's so important for us to live daily remembering and reminding ourselves, like we were saying, like of the gospel and like having God continue to renew us, sanctify us, cleanse us, and like change because the day, like from like every day we should be a little different, a little closer to God, or a little looking more like Jesus, or daily. And of course we're gonna have setbacks, we're gonna mess up, and God has grace, but also Jesus died for all those things as well, too. So I think um, but it's important for us to not just like only celebrate it on the Easter or this week, but like have it be a lifestyle that we're living, where we're like living that way. Because I think life also just feels less heavy when you live that way. Because then you're not thinking about yourself, you're thinking of, okay, God, what do you want me to do today? Who do you want me to speak to? What do you want me to say? Or how do you want me to be used for your like glory, for your kingdom today? Like, what is it? Yeah, because he equips us already. We're he gives us boldness and power from the Holy Spirit. So we're ready for it. And Jesus defeated death, he defeated the enemy already, so he has no power in our lives anymore, unless we allow him to take it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Um, yeah, and I feel like once you fully grasp like this gospel message, you know, like I can't help but share it with people. Cause it's like I'm just so like overjoyed, like thankful for it, you know, for what Jesus did, and just like you know, everything. It's like, how can I not share it? How can I just like sit here and just be like, oh, that's cool. That was something that happened in the past. It's like, no, it's still happening, it's still relevant, it's still something that like baffles me, you know. It just like shocks me every time I learn something new, like, especially preparing for today. Like, I was learning all kinds of new stuff and finding scriptures I didn't even know existed. And I'm like, whoa, you wrote that. And God's like, Yeah, I did. You know, and it's just like cool moments of like, oh my gosh, I need I need to find someone that I can share this with. Like, I need to find someone that I can tell this to, or send them this verse and be like, look, did it impact you? Because it certainly shook me a little bit, you know, and so it's like it's something that I feel like we should be doing all the time, not just because it's Easter season.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01You know, or it's like, what do they call it? Like holy week. You know, people think, oh, well, we have, you know, this is when we like, especially some of my family members, like they would, this is a time when they would like sit down and they would watch the Passion of the Christ, and you know, they would read all the books to the children about Jesus, and it's like we should be doing those things, you know, during the normal times of the year, yeah. When it's not like the season, it's like I'm always gonna remember that Jesus was born. Do I have to wait till Christmas to say thank you for that? No. Yeah. It'll be a random Tuesday, it'll be next Thursday. I'm gonna be like, Lord, thank you that you just like created Jesus because like Lord knows I needed him to come and do these things so that I could say thank you and that I could receive your forgiveness for whatever I'm about to do. Yeah, you know, that's true. And it's just like cool moments like that where you just get to reflect and kind of still learn new things and still share them and still grow in your faith. And yeah, I just love it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Well, yeah, because I feel like I think this year I was or even just a couple weeks ago, I was learning more about like or wanting to like evangelize and being like, God, I want to tell people about you, but I'm afraid because I'm like, how do I do it? Okay. I don't know why.
SPEAKER_01So um, I feel like we could just talk about this for hours. Like there's just so much. I just love this topic. I just love to talk about Jesus, period. Yeah. Um but yeah, I mean it's it's not a season, you know, but the resurrection, the crucifixion, like yes, it was a certain point in history, yeah, but we should live in daily remembrance of that freedom and boldness that we have in Christ. You know, and just go tell people about Jesus, go share this with them.
SPEAKER_02Cause there's power that happens in it or in being able to share. Um the enemy doesn't want us to share about him, doesn't want us to share of what he's done in our lives, because he's cool with us kind of knowing about Jesus. Um, but when we bring heaven to earth, that's when we're like, that's when things really like change. You know, when we're actually like being the hands and feet of Jesus and really doing that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Well, and too, it's like God knew we needed the Holy Spirit to get through life on earth, you know, after the fall. It's like life is completely different now. And so God's like, okay, they're gonna need help, they're gonna need comfort, they're gonna need, you know. And so we all need the Holy Spirit. We can't go through life without the Holy Spirit. And so if I'm the only chance that someone has to receive the Holy Spirit, I'm gonna do my best to like catch those moments and take it because I want everyone to experience the freedom and the joy and the peace and the love and the forgiveness that I've received and that I experience every day.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And I feel like that should be kind of our heart posture, like daily, just being like, I want to find those moments, I want to find those people that I can share Jesus with, and hopefully that means that they receive him too.
SPEAKER_03Mm-hmm. That's true.
SPEAKER_00You know, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02I think also one more thing I want to share. Then we could be, yeah. For the people who don't believe, um, you know, continue to like be curious and ask questions if you do have friends that believe, like more, because I think it only sharpens us as believers to like share that and to share about him and just continue to ask questions so that you can kind of learn exactly what it is that Jesus did do and why you are in need of a savior as well, too. Um and just know like that. It's great to learn about this, to learn about Jesus. Um, but you know, God has a lot of mercy and grace for each and every one of us, so he's not mad when at you if you're not believing, if you have these doubts, because he already knows and he just wants you to come as you are. Just don't be afraid to do that. Because I think that's when freedom comes, is when like you're still joining in, even joining him and following Jesus, even if you're doubting, um, because he's the one who the Holy Spirit's the one who will change your heart and really just change your life. So yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Amen. Amen. Love it. Thanks for joining us for another episode. I hope you learned a lot and that you were encouraged. Um, yeah, and that you just go out and make disciples. Share this message, share this podcast with people. If you are nervous about sharing the gospel, if you don't know how to explain the gospel message to someone, just send them the link to this podcast and we will do the work for you. We'd love to.
SPEAKER_02Yes, we would.
SPEAKER_01Um, but yeah, other than that, have a blessed day and we'll see you on the flippity flop. Bye. Bye.