SPEAKER_00 0:00

Hey guys, welcome to the Is It Legit podcast. Today we're going to be talking about how Robert Pape, he was the one who advised the White House on strategic war type of situations. He said that they have Iran has the capacity to build 16 nuclear bombs, and they were at 60% enrichment, which they technically can make nuclear bombs with that. But if they get to 90%, it's pretty much a guaranteed. So we're going to be talking about what it looks like if we had a nuclear bomb type of situation that was headed towards America. And we're going to be talking about the war and some of the unfortunately devastating effects of what that's going to do to us, our economy. And yeah, so we're excited. And let's uh let's get started.

SPEAKER_01 0:44

Yeah, I mean, right now it's such a precarious time in the world. I think uh the big question for a lot of people, uh, and hopefully people are keeping track and keeping appraise of the situation is that what is why are we in there? What's the reason for us being in Iran? And there's a few theories, but not theories, but there's a few reasons. And the biggest thing I think we should talk about is the nuclear potential threat. Um, the way I the way we understand nuclear bombs is you take uranium, you enrich it through a process, meaning it gets more concentrated somehow. And as soon as you pass that threshold of 60%, 70%, you start being able to make a bomb of a certain size, a certain strength. And experts say that if you get past uh 70, 80, even up to the 90%, it's essentially guaranteed uh that you can create a nuclear bomb with the right scientists and tech, you know, technology. So, Peter, what do you think is um, you know, obviously the public is being told one thing and maybe there's another thing going on behind the scenes. How are you reading the situation um so far?

SPEAKER_00 1:59

Yeah, you know what? See, this is the biggest controversy right now because you know, even Charlie Kirk, before he died, he actually have made hints. Uh, and this is the weird part, right? He's made hints that we should not go to war with Iran, uh, Iran. So a lot of people are saying that they we don't or they don't have you know nuclear weapons, they don't have uh enrichment centers or whatnot. That's what they're saying. And as you guys may remember, in May, we ended up uh attacking their enrichment centers, uh thus destroying, and and they're not supposed to have uh nuclear bombs, by the way, or like uh uh materials for nuclear bombs. That's always been the case, right? So we had an agreement uh many years ago that they are not allowed to have nuclear bombs. And I don't know if that was during Obama's administration, or I mean it's been it's been like that for a while. Um, and the reason why they they they can't have nuclear bombs is because they are kind of by nature, by their religious um, I guess, philosophy, kind of like a terrorist nation, in the sense that they are about death to America. We're infidels, they want to destroy us, right? And they've even actively said death to America, which is not something that you should say to the you know most powerful nation in the world. Uh, and so that's why they they shouldn't be, I mean, that's why we made an agreement, you shouldn't be having nuclear weapons. Now, what happened? Uh what we found out was that they did have enrichment centers, that they were at 60%. And this is why, you know, we we bombed what they had. The question is, and this is what we actually don't know. Do they actually have nuclear you know material, right? Those enrichment centers. That's where we we don't know for sure. Now, what Robert Pape, who um just just uh so you guys know who he is, he's not just some random person. He actually he's the one who uh briefed presidents um you know on bombing campaigns. And so he he's he he actually worked with the White House. Uh he's not just some random guy. And he says that he feels very strongly that was it two days before uh the bombings, or maybe a couple of days after. I I forget exactly when a couple days before they saw, they found evidence that they were transporting something very large to some other other location. They had a lot of call it moving trucks, transport uh vehicles that were moving something very large and a lot of it about a couple of days before. We don't know where those were that transported to. That's the that's the unknown right now. And by that, you know, I don't know what else intel that we have. We probably have more intel, but by because of that suspicion, we believe that they still have the uranium at the 60%, maybe even more, I don't really know. Um, it could be underground. I I don't know how enrichment centers work, uh, but they most likely do still have some kind of uh you know nuclear capabilities, and that's why we are attacking them. But there's a lot of people who also believe they don't. And as you know, the head of uh the counterterrorism, I uh Kent, Ken, whatever his name is, right? Yeah, he came out and said, Hey, I don't believe in this war, I don't believe that we should be in this war. Maybe because we don't they don't have nuclear bombs and everything that they know, all the intel says that they don't have nuclear capabilities, uh, or he just believes that this war is gonna cause a lot of casualties, and that's kind of what we want to talk about. So yeah, it's not clean for sure. What do you think?

SPEAKER_01 5:46

Yeah, I think it's uh important to know that the history between the US and Iran is pretty complicated. Uh, going back, you know, 70 plus years, um, you know, the US was part of an overthrowing of the government Iran in Iran. And at that time, if you look up historical footage or even YouTube videos, there were, you know, it was a bustling uh, you know, uh society full of scientists and academics, and you know, they would invite academics from all over the world to study there, and it was a very kind of cohesive, you know, society, kind of like almost like the US. And unfortunately, from that overthrowing of the government to them attacking us, us, you know, attacking them or overthrowing them multiple times, Iran has started to um support terrorist organizations, which is a terrible thing. But I think when you know, yeah. I mean, there's so many, there's all these jihadists that want to, you know, bring death to the infidels and all these things. And I don't want to, you know, blanket cover people from a nation as a certain type of person, but there's even Iranians, you know, that are from there uh that were uh celebrating the takedown of the uh of the Ayatollah, right?

SPEAKER_00 7:08

Oh, yeah, there's a lot of them.

SPEAKER_01 7:09

And I mean we're seeing protests, and I mean, I you know, you drive on I-5 and you see people on the on the bridges and whatnot. Right. Um and it gets complicated, more complicated, because the sun, so there's this uh thing called the fatwa or like this religious edict that the religious leaders of Iran would say to the public, which is essentially that they don't want to go into a nuclear war. It they're they're they are religiously against the possibility of enriching uranium, things of that nature. However, you can argue that they were doing it for energy purposes, um, and they weren't forthcoming with the US and you know the other nations who were supposed to be in agreement about not enriching uranium for weapons grade purposes. But now, unfortunately, the son who is who has ascended to the Ayatollah position, you know, the supreme leader position, he is worse. I mean, he is more militaristic, he's more brutal. He, I mean, I there's some gruesome details of the things he's done. You could look it up, but it just doesn't seem like that is a good thing to hand the throne to, and that's what we're seeing as well.

SPEAKER_00 8:27

Yeah, so that's kind of what Robert Pape talks about. He he says that they have enough military power, because one of the I mean, the narrative that the US government is trying to bring is that we have we can, I mean, these guys are nobodies. Like we have we are so militarily strong that we can end this war like this, right? They're talking about weeks, they're saying that this is going to be done in weeks. The problem is is that they have a million soldiers. A million soldiers, and about a hundred thousand of them are like special soldiers, right? So uh we have about a million soldiers, and we're trying to fight them. We may we may potentially go on the ground, but we're trying to fight them in their territory. It's kind of like Vietnam. The reason why we were so against another war is because of what happened with Vietnam, because we thought, oh, Vietnam's they're they're nobodies, right? Finding out that Vietnam being on their territory, the kind of the kind of tactics that they they use. I saw I saw one clip of a of what they were doing was they had like a bamboo straw, and they were literally just in the water waiting for the US soldiers with the straw and breathing out, and then as soon as they go in the water, they would pop up and just start shooting, shooting them. So, in the same way, um, I I I think the the military power is um is not something to ignore. Ayatollah son is a lot more aggressive, and the the the thing is, and it reminds me of uh the first Thor where um oh gosh, what what's the the father's name? Odin. Odin, right? So yeah, the all father, so he wanted peace, right? So there basically uh you know, Thor he wants to expand the kingdom. The the nine realms are laughing at us, right? He wants to expand the kingdom, and Odin's like, no, we we should have more peace, right? And um, you know, this is the Ayatollah's son. This is, I mean, he's he wants to fight, you know, he's very pro-fighting. And so what Robert Pape is saying is that we think that we could just cut the head of the beast and it would it will end, but has that ever happened throughout history with what we you know had with Iran, we can never cut the head of the beast, it just it doesn't work, right? We could do it all day long, but that's just that could even make them stronger, right? So it's it's not I we we believe that this can uh be a lot more a lot a lot prolonged of a war, and uh it could be a very dangerous place for us, and it could uh unfortunately cause a lot of economic suffering. So let's talk about that real quick. So, if why would we see economic suffering? Why are we already seeing economic suffering right now because of what's happening with Iran?

SPEAKER_01 11:36

So the nuclear threat is obviously a huge potential, you know, throwing us back to the Stone Ages, you know, what wiped out the dinosaurs kind of scenario. So obviously there's a lot of attention and focus on that. But the other, maybe even bigger and more important to us right now, effect of this whole war is that the Strait of Hormuz, which is where, if you look on the map, Iran is here, and there's all these Gulf countries, Gulf Coast countries, the Persian Gulf uh coast countries like Qatar, UAE, that's where Dubai is, all the fancy buildings and the supercars and all that that you see on TV. They're literally just uh a few miles from each other, and that straight it kind of narrows where Iran is, and Iran can control that, which 20% of the world's petroleum passes through. I think it's like 20 million barrels can pass through every single day. And that being constrained gives Iran the leverage to control the world economy in many ways. Well, how is that, you might ask? Well, think about what runs on petroleum. You have the ships, you have the airplanes, you have the trucks, you have a lot of our cars, and okay, you have a machinery, okay. You have a Tesla. Well, where do you get your battery charge? Where does that electricity come from? Um cosmetics, food, packaging, your clothes, you know, look on your tag. It says polyester. It says all the, you know, it's it's basically chemical, petroleum, you know, byproducts. And and and to make matters worse, even though we are as a country a bit more sufficient than other countries are, um, I've heard that we make 20 million barrels um of production a day or a month, and we use about the same amount. So we could actually sustain ourselves. But countries like Japan, especially China, they have more than 70 to 80 percent of their uh oil needs coming from Iran. Imagine being squeezed.

SPEAKER_00 13:51

Oh no, no, I I believe isn't it more they 70 to 80 percent of the exports from Iran go to China? That's that's why I've heard.

SPEAKER_01 14:01

Yeah, and and Japan also has, I think, 80% of the oil that makes sense that that's coming in. So to put a stranglehold on that, to literally, you know, it's like choking out the air in your system. You can't there's there's figures that I read where if the Japanese government doesn't get any more oil, in eight months the whole economy will collapse. People, it's an island, right? People will not have transportation, goods and services, money won't mean anything. There might be hyperinflation, and that's that can happen all over the world as well if the problem continues to get worse. So we call that control the petrodollar, which is we have as a nation been able to be the world police and enforcer and um you know to serve the world also in many ways, because we have all the oil that's traded with with dollar-denominated debt or just with the dollar, and China has been actively trying to, you know, unseat us from that throne, which of course they want to be the world power. But now with this situation, it can make matters worse by uh literally constraining the supply. Other countries will feel it. The Gulf countries can also be squeezed in. So it's not just oil, it's not just that, it's water, it's food, it's materials for living that all passes through that strait of Hormuz. So it's a really um terrible situation if you are one of the countries that are being supported by that strait. And I think the economic fallout, the damage can be pretty bad to this point where I know you and I have talked about maybe even a global recession, and experts are talking about that as well.

SPEAKER_00 15:50

I feel like it's inevitable. I mean, if we're not gonna solve something, I mean, we're we're also very interconnected, and if we don't have access uh on that strait, and and other countries like even Korea, they're very dependent on that oil. I mean, it's gonna cause so many issues. Um, and and I know Trump is Trump and many others, they're saying, oh, this is gonna be ending soon, but that's actually what they have said. I saw clips of how they said that almost in every war. Oh, it's gonna be over soon. It's gonna be over soon. Because think about it, right? Same thing with the Fed, right? It's like, why would they say, oh, it's gonna be fine, whatever, because they don't want to cause early panic. But because what happens when they what if they said, oh yeah, this is gonna be a two-year war or it's gonna be a year war? We're talking about a year of devastation to our economy. We're talking about because it's all about sentiment, the stock market's gonna drop, right? And so that's why we feel like that's happening. Now, could we actually end in a few weeks? Maybe, but I I feel like it's pretty doubtful. And it's gonna be it's people think it's just gonna be our gas that goes up. It's gonna be everything that goes up. And the problem right now is that you know, we so okay, so then why do so because we don't want everything to crash, why don't we just lower the rates, right? Stimulate the economy. The problem is is that when the oil, when the uh when oil prices are up, because oil prices are supposed to go down. I mean, when the economy is really struggling, oil prices are supposed to go down, but if the oil prices are still up, we lower the rates. I mean, that's going to cause massive inflation. So it's it's the even worse scenario right now, more than a recession, is if we have hyperinflation, right? And the US dollar just becomes worth less. Um, if that happens, then obviously, you know, the BRICS nations there or and a lot of other nations are not gonna want to trade in dollars. The what pro the other problems for us in the US is that if we don't trade in dollars, we don't have the money printer anymore. We're done as a nation. I don't even know what our nation will look like. You know, I don't know if it's gonna be a second world or a third world, but I could tell you if we don't have the money money printers with with how much we owe, and just that's the bigger problem. So, what can we do at that point? We can't lower rates, we can't stimulate the economy, we can't print more money, we can't, you know, we just there's a lot of things that we can't do. This is a weird, precarious situation. So, and I feel like uh Iran is trying to weaken, I mean, part of uh what one of the things that's gonna happen is that we they are weakening our economy by you know holding the Strait of War Moose, which by the way, you know, the reason why that we're not transporting, you know, during this war is because they actually attacked one of the ships. And a lot of these guys are they're working off of the dollar, right? They're they're they're on a paycheck, they're not gonna give their they're not military people giving up their lives. So they're actually just waiting. All these barrels are just waiting and sitting there, and uh no one's gonna go out there, you know, within uh with an act of war because Iran's gonna attack them. So it can be very, very, very devastating. I think we're in a very tough place, and I feel like the reason why they're attacking some of these proxy areas, right? Some of these tourist areas, because you know, a lot of these proxy areas, 20% of their revenue comes from their tourism. And if they attack those areas and make it basically, you know, unable for for people to visit and do you know, do all that, my goodness. I mean, their economy is gonna crash. And I believe the the what Robert Pape is saying is that you they're gonna ask the US nation, hey, you need to stop this war right now because we're suffering economically too much. Stop the war right now. So that's kind of like what's what's happening, and and you know, our strategic positioning in a lot of these proxy areas is going to dissipate, it's gonna disappear. That's where who they're that's they're attacking our embassies, they're attacking the uh army bases, they're trying to get um get put a wedge between us and these you know very uh strategic alliances.

SPEAKER_01 20:16

So yeah, I mean, you know, right before we started filming, I you know, I told you about how literally in the last couple of days, uh Israel attacked one of the largest natural gas uh reservoirs and plants in Iran and decimated literally like a big percentage of the world's supply. I mean, we're talking in a weird way, you know, I've learned a lot about the the geography and how things look in the Middle East, and it is so precarious. Everything we think is kind of a given or um, you know, like protected. There's so many things in the in this world that are just precariously hanging on the edge. Just by closing this one straight, 20% of the world, that's that's a huge amount. Or you can think about the the Panama Canal or all these things that just have such a huge impact on the world economy, and we're just kind of living in this bubble. But you know, before I I would like to cover um some of the nuclear, you know, uh fallout or nuclear, you know, situations that can happen, but I do want to ask you, do you feel like you're um I don't know how you felt about Trump in the beginning or you know, up to this point, but are you beginning to lose faith in the government? Do you feel like Trump is making all these mistakes? Do you feel like no, he actually has a plan behind this? What's your general feeling on him and his administration right now?

SPEAKER_00 21:53

I mean, I've said this before, and I'll say it again. I I've never really liked Trump as a character, to be honest. Um, I just don't. Feel like he's very he's a great example of what a leader in America should be. He doesn't really exemplify that. Now he does have some positive traits, right? The positive traits are that he is, you know, sometimes you just got you know, a lot of CEOs, you just gotta kind of be an a-hole, right? You gotta be um, you gotta be able to hear a bunch of criticism from a lot of people, but still do what you need to do for the betterment of you know, whatever your organization. So there are some good uh aspects to him. Now, in regards to this particular, I mean, we could talk, we could talk about like immigration and what do you do with that and all this and that, yet on this particular topic, this is where I'm at because you're asking what whether I approve of you know Trump anymore. And the thing is, if if all of this is true, which Robert Pape is saying that this this is true, if they do truly have 60% enrichment and they transported a lot of that somewhere else in a hidden location in a massive area, right? Iran is not a small area, it's it's massive, right? Uh, and they are continuing to develop this, and their philosophy is you know, death to America, and their new leader is now like Thor, the philosophy is we need to, you know, attack, we need to fight, fight, fight. And even if there's a 20% chance, see, that's the thing. Even if there's a 20% chance, if it were me, I would choose to try to find that uranium. I would choose to fight that war. That's just me personally, just because nuclear and we're gonna talk about what happens when there is a nuclear bomb. Personally, for me, I I I just would um I would fight it if there was a chance, if that's legitimate. What what do you think?

SPEAKER_01 24:10

Would you support the war if it meant we had to uh if it meant Iran, you know, many Iranians would would die, but we knew that they had a nuclear bomb. I mean, this is going back to our history, you know? This is going back to what we learned in school, these situations of life and death and nations being toppled. But do you I mean, what do you think? Do you think you would support it?

SPEAKER_00 24:44

So, so in line of watching the the house of dynamite, okay, let's just say someone's gonna bomb your home, right? Oh, this is gonna be a really tough. This is gonna be really tough. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 24:56

We'll explain the house of dynamite as well.

SPEAKER_00 24:58

But yeah, so okay, let me let me just ask this. Yeah, you have three family members, right? That's really close.

SPEAKER_01 25:04

I see you're you're asking and you're answering my question with a question, okay. Three family members, okay.

SPEAKER_00 25:10

Three family, three so four in total, right? You had to give up one in order to save all four, or would all four of you you have a you have a 70% chance or 80% chance that all four of you will die. What would you do? Yeah, I mean, if it was me, it would be a no-brainer. And that's kind of like the the the question, right?

SPEAKER_01 25:32

It's like I mean, I would be the one to you know give up my life for my family.

SPEAKER_00 25:38

Sure. Um but you kind of understand that like the philosophy. I mean, that's kind of the the thought here. It's like, yeah, short term, it's going to suck. There's going to be a lot of suffering. A lot of US soldiers are going to die. You know, these guys have families, they have kids, they have mortgages, right? A lot of economically, it's going to be uh very devastating. Yet if it is true that they can make nuclear weapons, right? And we we, you know, for me, I've always had the idea that America, even though if we were in a nuclear war, that we would actually be, you know, fairly safe, you know, in a nuclear war. Because my dad told me, um, and I found I actually did research on this, that we had some kind of like satellite laser that could shoot down uh a nuclear a nuclear weapon. I find out that that's actually not that's actually not true, that we don't have a satellite, you know, like a laser that can shoot down nuclear weapons. And in fact, our defense is a missile, like basically a bullet hitting a bullet. That's what our defense is. And it's not a hundred percent. And so this is why if there was a nuclear war situation, I mean it's almost better for you to suffer now and get rid of it rather than you know let them let them have it. That's that's just my philosophy.

SPEAKER_01 27:02

So let's get into that a little bit. Um so according to Robert Pape, which again to reiterate, he has advised the White House from the 2000s all the way to 2024. So, you know, 20 years of advising multiple presidents, multiple administrations. What he says, and he's been running uh a war scenario with Iran for 20 years, and he teaches classes on this, you know. Um, I think he did uh his PhD was something related to these kinds of issues. There's three stages, according to Robert Pape, on how this could play out, and uh he he believes that there's a 75% chance of us getting to level three. So, what are the levels? Level one, uh we have conventional war and sanctions, which is basically happening now. Conventional meaning non-nuclear, you're bombing the crap out of people, things are happening, infrastructure is going, you know, oil's affected, food and you know, all this really bad stuff, but no nuclear. Level two, uh Iran disperses and escalates. So that's also kind of what's happening, which is they're beginning to do a couple of things, which is one, moving their supposed nuclear, you know, um uh supplies or enrichment supplies somewhere else. Who knows where that is? Um, and then also they could escalate based on um not only attacking the Gulf Coast states or attacking our bases on the Gulf Coast, but activating sleeper cells. Um, I I don't think people understand that we it's super scary to think about, but there's apparently like over a thousand sleeper cells, meaning terrorists who are in America, who are embedded to our society that could be activated by Iran and start attacking people or you know, bombing people. And it is super scary to think about, you know, like I'm going to a concert in May, and is it paranoid for me to think that that's a large gathering of people? You never know. So that's level two. Level three, uh, nuclear uncertainty plus proxy risk drives us toward ground war and maybe homeland danger. Again, this is this will be such a disaster. I mean, if you have nuclear uncertainty, meaning we don't know if we're going to be attacked at any given moment, uh, which means that we may be convinced to send ground troops, and that will be a terrible idea. If you look at the way Iran is set up as a nation, it's a huge nation, by the way. It's not some small country. Like you could see the overlay of the US and Iran. And I think you mentioned something like Texas and a couple of other states put together. That's probably true. You could see it as a Texas is massive. It's massive. Uh, we have property in Texas. I mean, we it's a huge part of it's just a huge country, and it has been known as a fortress because of the way the mountains are protecting, you know, the people that are more inland, right? That's a disaster. I mean, I could talk about Vietnam, like you talked about. I could talk about North Korea, all mountainous, mountainous, jungly, and really hard to pinpoint where things are. It's not an open desert. There's things that are hiding inside the mountains or the valleys or hidden bases. I mean, there's things that we don't even know or understand.

SPEAKER_00 30:37

And and and I would mention the drone technology that they have.

SPEAKER_01 30:41

And yeah, Iran has been focusing a lot on drone technology, apparently from like 10 plus years ago. And they can create these $50,000 drones to a government that's not that expensive. And they can fit like six to eight of them on a truck, like a pickup truck. So you could literally drive these trucks to all these locations and have you know firing positions. And the US, we are not ready for that. And I know we're scrambling to make our own drones, but we are ready for big all-out war. So 50,000 drone, dollar drone gets shot up, and there's 10 of them, 20 of them, 30 of them. How do we shoot it down? There's no lasers. Uh, you can't hit it with you can't hit all of them with uh with guns. So you will shoot out a missile to intercept that or hit that, but our missiles cost like a million bucks to two million bucks versus 50k. So we're gonna go bankrupt.

SPEAKER_00 31:39

Well, they did you did you hear, and I think the markets reacted that Trump, the administration requested for more funding, like billions of dollars, 20 billion or something of more funding. I mean, I'm not so we're already at that place that we're we're asking for more funding in in this war.

SPEAKER_01 31:57

So, okay, so then if a nuclear event happens, um we see a launch from across the Pacific and it's coming over, and there's a movie that we both watch called The House of Dynamite. Do you want to take people through a little bit of that movie and the premise? Because, guys, if you haven't seen this, I think you should see it because it puts you in the emotional driver's seat of what would actually happen if we're going about our day and just something happens and there's a nuclear launch. So tell us a bit about that movie.

SPEAKER_00 32:36

Yeah, I mean, guys, there's a reason why we had the cold war, and there's a reason why we ended up having peace. Because if we end up actually having a nuclear war, the dev I don't know if people understand the amount of devastation. I mean, we're basically going, we could destroy the earth, right? Because we're not just talking about the the bombs that's destroying the cities, right? That it's going to drop on. We're talking about the proximity of the I mean, the the radioactive material that's going to be in the air that can make people die within two hours, one or two hours. And so the whole premise of this movie is that um a unknown uh nuclear bomb is sent over our way, right? It's heading towards Chicago. And we have to, I mean, everyone in the White House, they're informed, they're briefed of this. And so we immediately have a couple of different defense strategies. Number one is we send another anti-missile, like a ballistic, what is it called?

SPEAKER_01 33:37

Um yeah, there's it well, the the the nuclear missiles that can go across an ocean would be called an ICBM. It basically goes into space. Yeah, so we have to, I think, wait for it to kind of come down where we can reach it, and we would have to shoot it. Like your example was shooting a bullet with a bullet. I mean, that's literally and is that guaranteed?

SPEAKER_00 34:03

Uh no, that would work. So so that's the thing. So what our defense is okay, let's just say a nuclear missile is heading our way. We have to send that ant anti-missile to hit. Well, I mean, you're trying to hit a bullet with a bullet. So the fact of the matter is the chances of it hitting each other is actually 50%. That's what it is. And and hopefully it hits it in the water, right? It's 50%. And so in this movie, what happens was the first missile misses because it's 50%. The second missile, unfortunately, misses again. It's heading towards Chicago and it would basically destroy Chicago. That's that, I mean, Chicago, all of Chicago would be basically obliterated, and the proximity to Chicago would be obliterated. There's millions of people in Chicago, right? Such a dense area. And so we we do know that we have um, you know, a lot of these anti-missiles, but if we were in a nuclear war, if if Iran, Iran, we know that I believe it's public information that California and Alaska has, I think like 40 Samad anti-missiles, but then Iran, just even Iran has the capacity to make 16 of these nuclear weapons. That's Iran. What about China? What about uh what about Russia, who, by the way, are helping Iran? Russia for sure is 100% helping Iran. China is very incentivized to help Iran because a lot of their oil comes from Iran. And, you know, people say that the US is trying to maim China by attacking Iran and doing all this. Um, that's a part of the strategy. Uh, and it could very well be true, but you have to understand a lot of these very powerful nations with a lot of atomic bombs have incentive to help Iran. If they get involved, okay, and they start sending missiles, I don't even know how many of them uh they have, and we have a 50% chance, and we have, I don't even know how many of these anti-missiles we have. The fact of the matter is, is we can America can be destroyed. They can basically, if if all of those nations, if Russia and China start throwing these nuclear bombs, we start throwing nuclear. I'll let you talk about the the the um um counter initiative that we can do, but the fact of the matter is is that we are not as protected, we are not as safe as we may have thought, and the movie kind of exposes that.

SPEAKER_01 36:41

Um I've also heard that we and other nations um on our side and on the other side are all moving a lot of their um missile defense systems around. So apparently in South Korea, they're you know, because the US is in South Korea to protect against North Korea. I mean, we just kind of forgot about them, but they're still there. They also have a million troops, right? Um, and it's crazy how well these these countries are prepared, at least in their head for war. We have 300 plus million people and we have a million soldiers. Iran has 90 something million, a third, and they also have a million soldiers, and I'm sure North Korea is even a fraction of that, and they have a million soldiers. So there's a lot of movement in where the military of all these nations are moving missile defenses and they're just getting ready for something big, right? Super scary. But let's just pretend there is a nuclear attack. What is our policy? What happens? You know, we thought there was the Star Wars thing that could shoot down with the you know, shoot down the missiles with a laser. That's not I know they were working on that. I read about that when I was a kid. What actually happens? Well, within um, I've heard six minutes, but apparently within 10 to 15 minutes, the new the US nuclear retaliation protocol this that says that the president has a sole authority to order a launch, supported by a rapid decision-making process. Again, the 10 to 15 minutes. Can you imagine in 10 to 15 minutes you having the power as a president to control the fate of the entire world? Do you see a missile coming or two or five or sixteen? And do you choose to counter launch? I mean, that is a crazy amount of burden on you know, that that basically spells the end of the world. 10 to 15 minutes. Uh, there's these things called a football. I think it's like a uh um, you know, you've seen it in the movies where they have this like general person hold this uh briefcase or suitcase, you know, of launch codes and things like that. And what we all are also uh what our policy is, it allows for launching weapons immediately upon detecting an incoming threat. So think about that. It's an incoming threat. The missile may not even detonate, it might be a dud. You know, maybe 60% in enriched uranium is just like a small I don't know. I don't know the science. But it doesn't matter what that could do or if the bomb could even go off. We have to fire within that, and there's bombs gonna be there's gonna be bombs flying in the air. Okay. Um there's also uh the triad or the second strike. So the US maintains land-based Ice BMs, nuclear armed submarines, and bombers, you know, like stealth bombers in the sky. So we cover land, uh, air, and water, and submarines can provide a hidden second strike capability to ensure retaliation if land losses are complete. So um I've read you know, I've seen some documentaries where the our nuclear submarines, nobody except us knows where they are, because they're just prowling the Pacific Ocean or wherever they're at, right? Um, and also on the other side, um there's a Soviet or Russian system, and I don't know if this is actually still true or if it's you know phased out, but there's this idea of what's called a dead man switch or a dead hand, where uh for all the older people out there, there's a movie called Terminator 2, and there's a scene where this guy, um the guy who you know created the Terminator, he's holding the switch to where if he drops it, the bomb will go off in this movie, and it's called a dead hand switch because if he dies and falls, he will drop the pin on the bomb and the bomb will explode. So the Soviet system is apparently designed if the leadership is all incapacitated or killed, and if there's nuclear explosions are detected, it can uh almost automatically fire their missiles as well. So it's a very, very scary and complicated situation. I think uh the House of Dynamite is just something that puts it all together in a very, you know, I'm sure there's some liberties with Hollywood and things like that, but it's very, very good to tell people what it could be like, and uh this is very scary. Um and this is actually in policy for our military, right?

SPEAKER_00 41:42

Yeah, I mean, let's hope to God that this doesn't happen. I mean, it would just it, I mean the cold war was a very scary time. I mean, I think all of us, I remember those times where it's just that we were kind of like on edge, right? It's like when right we we were alive during that time. Yeah, it was like when we were kids, right? Right. I I think I remember I don't know if I remember that, uh, but it was a very scary time, and you know, it can also be a very scary time because as things escalate, see that's the thing. It's like we can see this escalating unless we decide to just stop the war. This is causing too much chaos, too much devastation. But then can we really stop the war? Because if they truly do have nuclear capabilities and this is a terrorist nation, you know what that can that can be very, very concerning. I've also heard, you know what's crazy is that I for I forget who was it Ted Cruz or somebody actually said on like in front of Congress um or in a public setting that it was Iran who tried to kill Trump. Did you see that? Oh yeah, yeah. That was that was very that was very like open. And I was like, oh, I I would think that that's like bigger news, but they are saying that it was them because we didn't really know who it was. It's not just some random kid who tried to kill Trump. No, this was a coordinated effort, a coordinated event. And so uh if that really was the case, then yeah, they're trying to, I mean, we're we're in war. I mean, they're they're trying to uh they're trying to take us down and they're doing terrorist type of activities. And so if that truly is the case, then we have to um I mean we we we we have to do something, right? So this is why this is such a it's a it's a tough spot. It's gonna have incredible economic implications, which guys, if you guys are listening, I mean the reason why we're we're covering this topic is because this is it's going to affect your pockets. And I'm sorry, it's already hard for a lot of people. A lot of people are already dipping into their uh 401ks. I mean, that's the big storyline, too, that we're already dipping into our retirement accounts, and the retirement accounts have uh really dwindled down, and we're just dependent. We're hoping that the Social Security will be there by the time we retire. But people are struggling. And now with these gas prices, which everyone uses gas besides those who went with electric, but it's not just even if you have an electric car, everything goes up, everything gets higher if gas prices go up because we run the world off gas. So it's going to affect us whether we like it or not. AI is also going to affect us. And that's the other thing behind what's going on with the war is that uh AI is taking over a lot of jobs right now. White-collar jobs, by the way, and Per Colin Wong is going to also take blue-collar jobs, manufacturing jobs, et cetera, et cetera. So there's a lot of horrible things going on in the world, and it's really depressing. Um and so it's yeah, I don't know how to end on a good note here, but this is just a sobering time, and this is the reality of the times.

SPEAKER_01 45:01

It really is a reality, and uh, you know, we're not here to I mean, I don't think we have a magic wand in any of this. Um, but what do you think people can do right now? Um you know, we're asset holders if we're lucky enough, homeowners, we own property. Uh some of us, like you and I, we're um, you know, or some of our friends, we're literally managing not only our lives, but our kids' lives, our parents' uh uh finances, right? What do you think people can do uh to help prepare and be ready?

SPEAKER_00 45:41

I mean, I first of all, we have to stop living the same lives that we have been doing. Uh and and do if you have a family, you need to do it for your kids. You have to start preparing for your kids. So whether that's you know, as easy as having emergency kits, and I know this is this is gonna sound really alarmist, but I believe, you know, it's worth a you know, a part of your paycheck just to get the basics of supplies, food supplies. There's a food supply thing that you can buy in Costco, you know, it's like 30 to 50 bucks, but it's it'll last for 50 years, and I think it's a 30-day supply, right? Getting some, you know, water like collection, you know, devices and filtration things. I mean, I think this it's worth it to get stuff like that, especially in times like these, because if there is a nuclear bomb and where they attack our, I mean, they could attack our power grid, okay? They could attack our water supply. Uh, you know, is it worth it given that you know the day may come where you're not gonna have water for your kids? Imagine seeing your kid just like dying out of starvation because you didn't prepare. You you you could have not gone to a restaurant, you know, three three restaurant right dinners, and you could have you could have bought these collection things. I would just get some basics just to prepare in case something like that does happen. And then um I would just be a lot more conservative with your money, right? Buy a little silver, honestly. Buy, you know, because if the US dollars does um hyperinflate, which I believe they're gonna choose that over, you know, I there's no other choice. You have to hyperinflate to be able to, you know, pay for things. Um the value of our dollar can significantly decrease. So whether that's Bitcoin or whether that's you know getting some kind of silver or something of value, right? A store of value, I think is important. So um, and then with jobs and things like that, I mean I I don't really know. I don't know how this is gonna affect everything. I I unfortunately I do believe that if we're not able to get this controlled, which is a very high chance, oil prices going up is going to cause a massive recession. Massive recessions, if you don't remember, equals a lot of layoffs. A ton of layoffs. Companies will not be able to afford you, they will lay you off. And so I would start preparing now economically.

SPEAKER_01 48:14

Yeah. Um I mean, we didn't ask for this as citizens, but we are in it, and I do believe that um having a bit of a defensive mindset around just survival. Um, you know, if you reach out to us, we'll tell you what we're buying. You know, it's it could be food, it could be water filtration, a lot of camping stuff, really. And um I think we all have to be resilient because to support one another and to be the leaders of our families, we need the the finances, we need the supplies, we need the mindset, right? So um I hope and I pray that this is over soon, but I don't think it will happen that way because I think it has to go on for this to get resolved, unfortunately. And my hope is that the damage will be minimized, as we all know, recessions are temporary, and when we come out of those recessions is when you know real growth can happen, and hopefully there's like a brighter future. Um, and that's all we can hope for. So that's all I have to say.

SPEAKER_00 49:20

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