Saved from the Edge, Part 2

A raw testimony of despair, doubt, and betrayal turns into a story of surrender, healing, and a simpler way to walk with God. We trace Tom’s spiral from cancer and rage to an unexpected breakthrough, unscripted worship, and a grounded vision of daily faith.

• audible encounter with God during cancer and grief
• brother’s LSD trip ending in instant sobriety
• doubt, accusation, and the slow work of sanctification
• father’s insurance betrayal and escalating self-destruction
• suicide plan interrupted by providential “blockades”
• cheap wine conversation leading to sudden clarity and peace
• life in the early charismatic movement and spontaneous worship
• critique of hierarchy and the call to servant leadership
• a reported healing after quiet consent to Scripture’s promise
• practical counsel on yielding, hearing, and speaking wisely
• living without chasing “ministry” and letting love lead

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"The Flowers You Are Picking Today Come From the Seeds You Planted Yesterday. Don't Like Your Boquet Of Flowers? Then Change the Seeds You Are Planting Today." Chaplain Terry 

Transcript

Chaplain Terry 0:03

Good morning everyone. Captain Terry Warner here. We're gonna hit some more on our podcast with Tom Snow. We left off at a pinch point uh the other day. So we'll pick up part two, and without further ado, this is an interesting story, and I'm really impressed. So, Tom, it's all yours.

Tom Snow 0:24

Well, thank you. Glad to have it. Thanks for having me back.

Hearing God Amid Grief and Cancer

Chaplain Terry 0:27

You're welcome.

Bruce’s Trip and a Sudden Sobering

Doubt, Accusation, and Spiritual Warfare

Tom Snow 0:28

So uh last time we were had just talking about I had just heard the audible voice of God uh going through all this pain and trauma of dying of cancer and uh my mother dying, and he told me he loved me. He said, Someday I'll provide my perfect mate for me. Um the yes, the love was obvious. He filled the room with love when he said it. It was overwhelming. The someday I'll provide a perfect mate for you made no sense since I was doomed to be six feet under. I assume he hadn't got the memo. But uh, you know, he's only the almighty God that spoke the world into being, but he probably didn't get the memo. That was all I could think. So um at that point, now I'm crying out with all my being, how do I reach this true and living God? He's way out. I always thought he was way out there in the universe, but now he came close and was so close. Uh the Bible tells us he has every hair on our heads numbered. And he does. He's that close. He's more close than we are. When we comb our hair and we throw the the the hairs fall out and we throw them in the trash, he actually knows the number of each hair that fell in. We we can't imagine a God that great. So, but now my my whole being's crying out, how do I reach this this God, this loving God of the universe? And I didn't know how. About a month later, uh my brother Bruce, middle brother, was in college, and he came home to tell my father and I that he'd just been on an LSD trip. Now, 1970, upper middle class family. You don't joke about drugs, you don't talk about drugs. My father disciplined with the belt and the fist, and he would have beat my brother within an inch of his life if he thought he was doing drugs. Any kind of drug. So Bruce comes home to tell us about being on an LSD trip. It's not a joking matter, and he said that his friends had talked him into going on a trip. He'd been on an LSD trip a year prior, had flashbacks for nine months, said he'd never do it again. He was talked into it again. And while he's on this trip, he's totally his mind's getting freaked out. And while he's on the trip, he had heard the gospel. He had gone to some churches with his friends that talked about how to come to the Lord. He cried out to the Lord, he asked the Lord to save him. The Lord instantly sobered him, instantly took him down off this trip. He never had a flashback. And he came home to tell us this news. My father's jaw hits the ground, my jaw hits the ground. You know, if my father wasn't so stunned, he probably would have beat my brother. But he didn't. Too stunned. And um so for the next day and a half, I hound Bruce. I you know, I'm I'm connecting dots. God loves me, I felt that love. You know, the only possible way out of all the guilt and pain I feel for and hate for myself for killing my mother, in my belief, you know. And at this point, you know, it's like, how do I meet the Lord? So he tells me, leads me through the scriptures, he, you know, shows me how to, you know, repent and ask the Lord to come into my life. And I did. And I did it over and over and over again for a day and a half. Bruce had had the Star-Spangled Banner when the Lord saved him. He comes instantly down off a trip, he's sober, the glory of God's around him, he's got star-spangled banner, and I got nothing. And I'm like, you know, I don't understand. And all of a sudden, the devil's whispering my ear, you know what? This God stuff's a bunch of bull.

Chaplain Terry 4:41

You didn't get anything.

The Old Nature and Sanctification

Tom Snow 4:43

No, I you didn't get anything, and and you know, Bruce got it, so what? You know, he's kind of off the wall anyway, crazy. And you know, I think it's all a bunch of bull. He's the devil's just wind and all the time, whispering my ear. And you know what? You thought about a month ago you heard the audible voice of God. You know what? That was all in your head. You made that up. You were probably just a dream, you were probably asleep. Now you think you were awake just sitting in your family room, but you know it was a dream. And and and this is all a bunch of lies, and and God's not real or close, and you're going to, you know, you're gonna die here shortly, and your life's hell. And and and nobody's gonna save you. And I bought into his lies. And all of a sudden, now at this point, now I only not just hate myself and full of guilt for thinking I killed my mother doing these experiments at asbestos, but now I now have a hate raging inside of me that the devil's lying, that God's not real. So now I'm just like mad at God. Okay, so the devil's winning big time, and he's just laughing his tail off, you know, spinning me in in circles. And so at this point, I start to go totally haywire. And for the next eight months, the devil was gonna win big time, and so I took and get a little sip of coffee.

Chaplain Terry 6:15

We have a tendency to think that God talks to us like he talks to everybody, but he talks to each person individually.

Tom Snow 6:23

Oh, he does, you know, and we can all hear the still small, quiet voice, yes, but we have to be careful because there's other voices we hear, and the biggest voice that has trained us is the devil. Yes, you know, he's the God of this world, and we were raised under his tutelage. So we were raised, you know, this is what's called the old man, the old nature, the flesh. We were raised under the tutelage of the God of this world, and he taught us to run the maze. He can poke us this way, we'll do something. He'll poke us another way, we'll do something else. He'll ring a bell, we'll do it again something. He'll put a piece of cheese, we'll run after it. He's been in control, and he taught us how to think. And so he we're actually so well taught, all he has to do is just throw a little word in our in our ears, and we go, oh yeah, yeah, and we just jump right on to that nature.

Chaplain Terry 7:20

Yeah, we have a tendency to not realize that it's the spirit that's saved. The soul is renewed with renewing in your mind, you will remove and the carnal is your body, and uh the the carnal and the soul have a tough time grasping righteousness and being born again. Sorry.

Spiraling: Drink, Rage, and a Chopper

Tom Snow 7:42

No, you're you're right. We we weren't raised, we were raised totally opposite, right? By the God of this world who has full of pride and ego, thought he was equal to God, got kicked out of heaven. He's down here ruling over us. He's the sadists of sadists. If he had a choice, he would just torture us and destroy us instantly. Well, very shortly, he'd a lot of torture. But the father doesn't let him read Job. You know, he puts a hedge, and this is the earth's a testing ground. We all think, oh, you get saved, life's gonna be a bowl of cherries. No, it's not, not at all. You be around for a while, you know that it's going to hell and back, but guess what? We get to walk with the true and living God as we walk through this hell and back. The earth's a testing ground.

Chaplain Terry 8:32

We arisen with him, right?

Tom Snow 8:34

And as you said, you know, what you're talking about is sanctification, right? Which is the process, it's a lifelong process of purifying, of us giving areas of our soul to the Lord and letting him take over. That's being renewed in the spirit, that's putting on the new man, the new mind in Christ. And so that's where it's a lifelong process. Anybody who says I'm saved and sanctified, salvation is we were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit the day we asked him to come in. I was sealed that day, I just didn't know it. You know, you don't have to feel it. You don't feel it all the time. If you go on feelings, it's ridiculous. Feelings is in our soul, where our heart and our mind is. And anybody who says they're saved and sanctified, yeah, we're saved. We got sealed with the Holy Spirit, but sanctified not at all. That's the process. It's a, and if anybody says they are, they're either dead or liars. Because the only time you're going to be sanctified is when you die, and then you come before the Lord, and he will evaluate, you know, our souls, how we did we yield to the true and living God. Not did we walk a perfect life. I I and I'm I'm energy, I'm a tangent guy, so I'll just throw this in. But I hate fake religiosity, I hate fake spirituality. We are not to act all religious. God doesn't respond isn't impressed with we put on a Sunday smile, but on the inside we're going, you know, live in hell.

Chaplain Terry 10:06

He wants to hold our hands like this, and holding our hands like this, and looking holding, yeah, I know.

The Insurance Letter and Betrayal

Suicide Plan and Divine Interference

A Night of Cheap Wine and Breakthrough

Transformation and the Charismatic Wave

Tom Snow 10:13

Yeah, we we don't impress God because he knows the heart, he knows the truth. And if we yield to him, we learn just to yield to him and let his righteousness come through. It's his righteousness that's in Christ, not us. So back to the story. So here I am. I'm now buying into well, God's abandoned you, so now you should just be mad at him. And I'm like listening to that voice going, yeah, I just should be mad, you know, because now I'm gonna die and I don't know where I'm going, and and and the salvation thing didn't work. And I probably was just, I no, I heard the audible voice of God. It shook the whole room I was in. I was wide awake. It was the middle of the afternoon. I just got home from school, but you know what? I believe the lie of the devil. I'll bet you what it was just something I made up. So I'm buying into his baloney sandwich. By the way, I have a 12-year-old daughter, and so in our house, when we talk about BS, we call it baloney sandwich. So you all know what a BS is, but you know in my house with a 12-year-old daughter, it's baloney sandwich. So he was feeding me baloney sandwiches, and I'm buying it all day long. And so uh at this point, I I had to, I just went crazy. I I started drinking, I became the second biggest drinker in my high school. Uh, I had talked my father into getting me a little motorcycle uh because I wanted the wind blowing in my face. Uh I knew that to get that, I would have to get a job. That's a rule in the family, and I believe in that anyway. I don't give kids, I don't give my kids anything. You know, you earn it, you work it for it. And so um I to do that though, I'd have to get a job in 1970. The only thing available to me was food handling. Uh, and to do that, I'd have to get a food handler's permit. That meant go to the county clinic, get an X-ray, and a blood test. I knew now that tumor that had started the size of a walnut was now probably the size of a softball, and I knew it's going to show up on the x-ray, and then the blood test, they could probably do a deeper dive into the blood test to find out what's going on. Cancer's not a communicable disease, but they would now know. Well, they granted me the food handler's permit. I got my job, I got my motorcycle. I came walking home one day uh from school, and as I come walking home, yeah, this is about a week after I got my permit, my father's car was home in the drive, unusual, middle of the day, April uh day. Come and as I came walking at the door, I knew because I knew because I knew, just like God can let us know, the Holy Spirit. And I knew my father'd gotten the letter talk telling about the cancer. So I knew my secret was going to be out. Now I figured my father's a hard rock. Uh, you know, he doesn't show love. My mother's the only one who showed love. But I thought, well, maybe he could figuratively put his arm around me. I I know I don't deserve medical attention. He could maybe do that. It might be a nice gesture. I don't deserve it. You know, because I have the guilt of the world that I doing these experiments had killed my mother and caused the cancer to me. So I don't deserve it. But I came walking in and I knew because I knew, and as I came walking in the door, he's got a fire in the fireplace. 80-some degree April day. You don't need a fire, he loves fires, but you know, that's a nighttime thing, and it wasn't cold. And he came walking in, and as soon as I walk in the door, he looks like the cat that swallowed the canary. And he flips this letter into the fire. And I got really sarcastic. And I said, What you doing? Nothing, nothing. Well, no, no, why why why are you doing a fire in the middle of the day? I'm just burning trash. We have trash pickup, you don't need that. Uh, yeah, I'm just burning trash. Well, why are you doing that? And that looked like a letter you threw in there. Was that a letter you threw in the fire? Oh no, no, no, no, no, no. Also, I'm realizing, okay, I've known about this for about six or seven months. He's just found out that his son, youngest of three, is going to die, just like his wife, my mother, six or seven months prior. I'm sure it's a little bit of too much information. Let me just give him a break, you know, and give him a little time to assimilate what he's just learned. Well, I come home about a week later, and I come walking in the door, my father's home again early, and there's another car in the drive, unusual, but I thought maybe it's business. Come walking in and he calls me into the living room. He says, Tommy, come in. And he has these two insurance agents sitting in the living room. And I'm what? And so, long story short, he takes out a multi-million dollar life insurance policy on me. And I'm going, what in the sorry if I cuss, what in the hell? What in the hell are you doing? You know, it's like no, I know you're a hard rock. I didn't think you were that callous. You want to cash in on my death? He didn't take an insurance policy out on my two older brothers, just me. Golly gee, wonder why. He hadn't told anybody about you know me dying. He hadn't told me. And I'm thinking the back of my mind, I've known for six months, and you just found out now you think you know it all, and you're gonna do this to me. And now hate and anger and rage and unforgiveness are welling up in me against him, and the devil's having a heyday, and I'm just full of hate and wrath and unforgiveness. And so now I'm gonna go. You think I'm gonna spire out before? Now I'm spiraling out of control. And I sold everything I owned and everything he owned that I could get my hands on, and I bought an old chopper in box, in boxes, an old I'm chopper, old Hartley in boxes, old 49 Hartley, and I built it into a chopper. And I started writing with the Hell's Angels, and now I'm not only the second biggest drinker in school, but now I'm a scuzzball that nobody would want to meet. My people in my high school are like backing off from this long-haired, hippie biker gang, crazy. They don't like stay away from this person, and I don't care because my life is hell, and I'm going to hell, and I'm dying, and I know I'm dying. And so, why do I care what people think? And so I, as I say, I just I'm spiraling. I would drink a fifth of whiskey in two hours and then ride home on my motorcycle, and I was proud that I could do that. And then I would be riding along on a four-lane highway, and I would be starting in the rightmost lane, all of a sudden wake up. I was past the left, the fourth lane to the left and ready to go in the ditch. And then all of a sudden, I'd just feel like I was shoved back over to the right lane, and then I'd wake up later and I was cross four lanes, about ready to go in the ditch, and get shoved back. There's a lot of badly bruised angels that I appreciate that were looking out for me. It's wonderful to have a praying mother and have a praying relative, and it's wonderful to have a God who loves us. Yes, and and he was giving me a lot of chances. So I'm I'm spiring, I've you know, believed every lie the devil told me. He's winning, and I'm just I'm angry. And I I formulated a plan, and my plan was this as soon as I got that motorcycle running good enough, where it would leave the city, Columbus, Ohio. And by the way, it wouldn't. Every time I got near the city's edge, it'd break. It's like an angel with a sword touching it, going, uh, there you go. And I'd have to limp it home and get and rebuild it. I'd rebuild my motorcycle every week. And I had formulated a plan that as soon as it was running right, I was gonna blackmail my father. I was gonna say, I know about the insurance fraud, and I want X thousands of dollars, and I'm gonna do my last hurrah, and I'm gonna drive my motorcycle across country, you know, and you can come pick up the pieces later, but this is my last hurrah. And that was what I was gonna tell him if the motorcycle road would stay running. But my plan, true plan, was I was going to ride my motorcycle from Columbus to the Grand Canyon, and then I was writing it off. I was going to choose my own death, and I it would be my last hurrah, that last moments of flying through the air till I was smithering on the Grand Canyon floor. But my other part of my plan, devious, was to write a letter, tuck it inside, pin it inside my clothes, so that when they picked up the pieces at the bottom, my father's insurance fraud would be found out. He'd lose the whole payout, he'd lose the money he had given me, which would really bother him since he's a Jew. And then I was hoping, beyond hope, he'd go to jail. So that was how much pain I'm living in, how much trauma I was in, how much he put me in, you know. And I wanted payback. At the end of eight months, couldn't get that motorcycle running good enough, always an angel with the sword touching it. Break again, couldn't even make around the block sometimes, bust again. I had to be replacing head gaskets every week. And it's an old 49 Harley, what do you want? But but um so one night I was sitting around at the end of this eight months with my biker buddy gang. We were sitting around at night, late at night, drinking bottle after bottle of cheap wine, nothing unusual about that. And I was a 16-year-old teenage alcoholic, suicidal teenage. Uh and and I just was sitting there and we had discussions. We always had discussions, but this night it became a spiritual discussion. And I thought, you know what, I'm gonna tell them about Bruce, and they're gonna scoff. And I'm glad because I'm gonna scoff right with them. So I told them what happened to Bruce, and they didn't scoff. And they actually listened, and I were like, okay, I'm thinking to myself, well, I'm gonna tell you what happened to me, and then you'll really scoff. So I told them, I asked the Lord to come into my life, and nothing happened. Bruce got the Star Spangled Banner and nothing happened, and they didn't scoff. But in the moment that I said nothing happened, I knew that wasn't true. God broke through from the innermost being, John 7, rivers of living water from our innermost being will come flowing out through our whole being. And this he spoke of the Spirit, and the Spirit of God was breaking out, and all of a sudden, he was flushing through my soul, and I had all those feelings and that same love and presence of God that I'd felt the day he'd talked to me. And the devil's lies were lies, he's the father of lies, and all of a sudden I was instantly sobered, like Bruce was. And all of a sudden, I looked around and I'm like, what am I doing here with these guys? So I said, I gotta leave. And I drove home uh that night, and I wasn't drunk, so I didn't have to get pushed back and forth by the angels, and I my life changed, and all of a sudden I knew where I was going. I knew what my mother knew, why she wasn't afraid of dying. She was going home to be with the true living God, and now I knew what I wasn't, in spite of all my horrible things I was, he loved me. And I just, my life changed. This is 1970, and all of a sudden, I, from this scuzz ball biker guy that everybody in my high school was afraid of, now was looking at this person who became a Jesus freak, long-haired Jesus freak, and I'm just talking about the Lord and only living for the true and living God. And they're like, What in the world? But once again, I don't care. And I'm just having the time of my life because now I know where I'm going. I knew I was dying. That was a given. Now I know where I'm going. I get to go home with Papa God. And I he led me to a local little church, and I was eating up his word day in and day out, studying the word, you know, good teaching, early charismatic days, charismatic move, 1968 to 1977. I was there from 7071 to 77, and seeing the power of God and and and witnessing things that only people that I talked to that came from the Pentecostal original, like Azusa Street, you know, they were there was an old couple that was in our church, and they said, This is the same. This is what we saw. The move of God. And it was amazing, mind-blowing, crazy beautiful. We would we joked that we went to church six days a week and twice on Sunday, and it was pretty much true. Sure, there were two services on Sunday and a midweek service. There were home groups just like Axe, meeting in homes around the city. We couldn't get enough. We would go anywhere and we would worship for hours and think you were there for minutes. The flow of God was so massive and amazing. What we think today, even with the best worship services today, and we have our song leaders and we have our worship and we build up with some praise and get into worship, and then we think we've hit the pinnacle. That's like this much out of this much.

Chaplain Terry 25:21

Yes.

Worship Without Scripts, Gifts in Operation

Tom Snow 25:22

And we get set, we saddle, we'll settle for this because we think that's good or good enough. In that day, we had no song leaders, we had no worship teams. We had the Spirit of God flowing from one side to the other. It would, song would break out here, it would break out there, it would flow in waves. So amazing. Uh, the preacher hardly ever got to, the pastor ever hardly ever got to preach because he was always prepared, but he loved the Lord too much, and he'd stand up and go, Does anybody have the word of the Lord today? Meaning, right then in that moment, the fresh word, not something you prepared. And there was always two or three. What do you know? Just like Corinthians, there were two or three that would have the word that day. We had everything. We, you know, the gifts were all flowing, it was amazing. And it was nothing to see people healed all the time. Like we had five-year-olds praying for adults, watching fall out and be totally healed. Like the power of God has nothing to do with us humans. We just have to get out of God's way. If we got out of his way and quit putting constraints on him, and we would do that.

Chaplain Terry 26:38

Our actions and our words and saying something we're doing, so we we quench despair.

Tom Snow 26:45

We do all the time.

Chaplain Terry 26:46

Speaking of the church services, I I I attended a church back in the 70s in the character. We sat on the floor on the carpet. Our communion was one big loaf of bread and one big cup of wine. And they passed it around. I mean, it was the the spirit of the Lord would come in and we'd be slain in the spirit. Just okay, it was neat. It was really, really neat. And I'd like to see that come back.

Tom Snow 27:15

We're gonna he he wants to do the next great move of God. Yeah. I wrote about that in my first book. It's called You know The Daily Stand, and the subtitle is a spiritual warfare manual for today and the next upcoming great move of God. God does want his next upcoming move. It is on it's on the horizon, but he's kind of waiting to get his church put in order. You know, we've had a little taste. We had Asbury College, Texas AM, OSU, where God broke out and there was like these things, and people were there for weeks, you know, with the presence of God and the Spirit of God. Once again, what we're used to in our churches is this much. What they got was this much, but God wants to take us a whole lot more.

Chaplain Terry 28:08

We're too influenced by the world and media and and outside forces, and so we squirt we squelched the Spirit of God again.

Unity, Leadership, and Broken Models

Tom Snow 28:17

We do, and then my second book, Set the Captives Free, has a lot to do with all the false belief systems and the the disunity that is in the churches that the devil's gotten away with and won over and over again. I'll get to that later, but you know that's that's our trouble. And until we learn to get out of the way, and leaders have to be undergirders. They have all leaders have some leaders, many leaders have a position of power and they want to be over the church, and we're and the church peons, us believers are at the bottom. It's totally inverted and wrong. I'll get to that later. But the power of God is Jesus said, I came to serve, not to be served. He says, The least, the greatest of you will be the least, the least will be the greatest. That's not how a lot of leaders do, and that's why a lot of churches are under false belief systems, under demons over nations. We'll get to that later.

Chaplain Terry 29:26

The Christian social link.

Tom Snow 29:28

Yeah.

Chaplain Terry 29:29

So we're speaking of your books, and uh we're about to wind down on time here. Speaking of your books, where are they available? And just I I went to Tom Snow at Amazon. And where are some other places that we can find your books?

Books, Links, and Resources

Tom Snow 29:45

Well, you can find them on every major platform. Uh Amazon's the easiest. You can look for um there's more than one author named Tom Snow. I've only written two books, so uh I found that out after I put my Books out there, but there's the daily, you know, in your show notes. Uh, you know, I'll I'll give you links where you can go out to Amazon and find the daily stand and set the captives free. Um, I'll give you my website, just to be clear.com. It's the number two in there. I can give you my Substack, which is just to be clear number one. Substack.com, which talks about my posts and podcasts if people want to follow that. I can give you my Facebook and Instagram, that's about as far as I go in social media. But you know, the the thing that, and in case anybody wants to know, uh I didn't die. Since I'm here 55 years later, it might become obvious to people. Uh and just to finish that story, one night when I was riding home on my motorcycle after having one of these meetings, we used to have them all the time. We've seen people healed, but I never felt like I was to run up to the altar to go ask to be healed. And I don't like to do things except what the what God says to do, what the Spirit is saying. I don't want to run to the altar. Now, if I stub my toe, I'm here at home, I say, Lord, please heal it. I'm not a masochist, but I was happy because to live is Christ, to die is gain. I was getting ready to go be home with Papa God. His presence was so enormous in the charismatic move. And so I was riding home one night and on my motorcycle, and the Lord, we you know, you learn to hear the still, small, quiet voice. And I studied eating the word like like you would be at a buffet and you can't stop eating. And so I was riding home on motorcycle, and the Lord said to me, He says, Do you see in Isaiah where I said, by his stripes you are healed? And I said, Uh-huh. And he says, Do you see in First Peter where I said, by his wounds you were healed? I went, uh-huh. And the light bulbs clicking on. Our current future were past. He said, Isaiah was looking forward to the cross. Peter was looking back to the cross. I completed everything at the cross. He said, Would you like that healing? I'm kind of ready to go. He'll be home with Papa God. So I really don't care. So I was really nonchalant. I just like, eh, sure, whatever. And in that moment, I felt a change. But within 24 hours, the rock hard tumor that had started the size of a walnut, now growing larger than a football, hard as a rock, filling my abdomen, melted, dissipated, and was gone within 24 hours.

Chaplain Terry 33:02

That's a loving God, I tell you.

Tom Snow 33:05

Absolutely.

Chaplain Terry 33:06

The Lord had me on healings and stuff, walk around to the back of the cross and look at the stripes and the wound. And that was an eye-opener for me. Well, if you had anything to leave with us that you uh uh we don't have time to go through everything, but any other winding down thoughts that you'd like to leave us with today?

The Healing: Tumor Gone in 24 Hours

Tom Snow 33:29

Yeah. That walking with the true and living God is the best thing you can do, it is the most fulfilling part of your life. I've owned my software company for 45 years and ran it. That is fulfilling, but not that fulfilling. It's a job. I have an ex-wife and four kids. I have a new wife and a 12-year-old daughter. Family is wonderful. Love my family. Okay, but that's not the same. The deepest fulfillment you'll ever have in your life is to walk with the true and living God. And that we can have every day, every moment of every day. But it will take learning how to yield. And the first book will teach you that you know, you think spiritual warfare, it's it's not a the whole book is not about how we just do that. That's that's like things we do. It's the whole book is to teach us how to walk with the true and living God and walk in the anointing and let that life flow through us. And if we do, then we'll do as Jesus did. We don't have to go around and look for ministry. He walked around and he said, I only do what the I see the Father doing. I only say what I hear the Father saying. He didn't go looking for ministry. I hear all these people, you know, your ministry and this ministry. I don't have a ministry. I just want to walk with the true and living God. I want his life to flow through. If that, you know, while Jesus walking around, did he happen to uh heal a lot of people? Yeah. Did he happen to cast out a lot of demons? Yeah. Did he teach? Yes. Was he speaking the anointing of the truth of God? Yes. But he didn't try to be in ministry. He was not calling himself a name. He wasn't an apostle, he didn't call himself a prophet, he didn't call himself a teacher. People called him rabbi, Jewish word meaning teacher. He simply walked with the true living God. You and I all can have that. And the beauty of that is he doesn't want a religious person in us. He doesn't want fake spiritual. When we become real, let the Spirit of God flow. We don't have to be perfect, He has to be perfect in us. So you have that opportunity. Will you have trials and hard times? Will you feel like you went to hell and back? Yep, sure will. So what? So what? Walking with the true and living God is worth every moment.

Walking With God Over Everything

Chaplain Terry 36:06

I guess probably the biggest obstacle I ever had was keeping my mouth shut and learning what the Bible Jesus said instead of what I say. And we go around saying what we want. The Bible says you can have what you say. We go around saying what we have. And that's that has been a problem. Once I learned to keep my mouth shut, get into the word and ask myself what does the word say? What does the word say? Then he got he was able to form me into his image and likeness. Am I there? Gosh, no. But I'm getting there. And when he comes back, uh I will be ready because he will have made me ready uh forming me. Well, I've enjoyed this today. I really I really have enjoyed it, and I appreciate you coming on the show. Uh I guess I about wind up. Let me just you want to close it out with a prayer?

Tom Snow 37:00

Sure.

Chaplain Terry 37:01

Okay.

Tom Snow 37:02

Papa God, we love you. We appreciate you. Your word is true. Your word is true above every man and everything. Let your word go forth. Use your word to reach and touch individuals watching this this day. And may they hear your call, believer or non-believer, to yield to you into a greater yielding, and just allow you to flow. And we ask, Holy Spirit, that you do flow and that you reach each of us where our needs are, but not just so we get healed, that's minor, so that we can walk with the true and living God. And we ask this, and we agree in Christ.

Chaplain Terry 37:55

In Jesus' name, I agree. Amen. Thank you.