Milk & Honeys
Milk & Honeys" is the perfect blend of raw industry insights and unfiltered realness. Like the ingredients that sweeten and smooth out a cup of tea, hosts Kayla Becker (TV host of 10 years) and Vanessa Curry (model and actress of 10 years) bring their own flavors to the conversation— Together, they spill the tea on what it really takes to live and thrive in LA’s entertainment scene.
So, grab a mug and sip on some Milk & Honeys—because we’re serving the tea with all the right ingredients.
Milk & Honeys
Two Geminis Walk Into a Podcast...Your first sip of "Milk & Honeys" w/ Kayla Becker and Vanessa Curry
We welcome you to the very first episode of Milk and Honeys, where we're serving up laughs and keeping it real as two entertainers living in the mecca of entertainment in West Hollywood.
• Kayla shares her journey from WWE to Los Angeles two years ago from Florida
• Vanessa talks about moving to LA at 18 to become a Laker Girl dancer and her 18-year career in entertainment
• We discuss the rollercoaster journey of the entertainment industry with its highest highs and lowest lows
• Our mutual love for Boys Town and how we first met at The Abbey
• Deep dive into "The Substance" starring Demi Moore and why it should have won all the awards
• Honest conversation about Hollywood's impossible beauty standards and how you're "damned if you do, damned if you don't"
• Our current TV obsessions including "Paradise" with Sterling K Brown and documentaries on Ruby Franke and Apple Cider Vinegar
• Introducing our "Honey Hotline" where you can send in questions and stories
Follow us on Instagram @milkandhoneyspod and catch our full on-camera version on Youtube!
I like the way you move. I like the way you move. You know how to do it like one two. Hi, welcome to the hive. This is the very first episode of the futurely is that a word? Iconic and highly successful Milk and Honeys. We are your hosts. I'm Kayla and this is Vanessa.
Speaker 2:How are you doing? I'm so good, I am so excited that we're here and we're so excited that you guys are here. And look, whatever you guys are sipping on, whether it's coffee, wine or you know a little, something stronger- yes, please. I'll take two, like we always do. Yeah, we are here to serve up some laughs and just be real, and so let's just get into it.
Speaker 1:Yes, I mean, listen, we're two girls who live in West Hollywood, like the mecca of like entertainment here in Los Angeles, so I think we serve as great voices to everybody listening of like, like, what's going on here, what's happening here, what you should be doing here, what you should be talking about, who you should be talking about respectfully, obviously.
Speaker 1:Um so yeah, uh, I think we should, just before we dive into anything, because we're still learning. This is again our very first episode of milk and honeys, which, by the way, we're trying to like figure out how to explain what milk and honeys means. Yes, the way we're trying to like figure out how to explain what milk and honeys means. Yes, um, the. We just think the name is really cool, but also we talk, you know, stirring the tea, that's what? Like the stirring the tea, yeah, and we're like the milk and the honey that goes into the tea.
Speaker 2:So we're creating the really clever tea. Okay, we are creating the yummy tea and we're honeys and we're okay.
Speaker 1:So I think off of that we talk about kind of how we got to la. Yeah, I can start. I've been in la for almost right at two years. My second lease is coming up at my apartment, so that means two years ago. I moved to los angeles. I moved here from florida, um, so I traded one sunny coast for the other, because I don't mess with the cold weather at all. If it drops below 60 degrees I'm like bolt the doors, I can't come out to play. But yeah, so I moved here two years ago. I decided if I'm going to do Los Angeles, I'm going to do it. I moved right in West Hollywood. Right off Sunset I can walk to Santa Monica, to Boys Town, which me and Vanessa, you'll learn, love Boys Town.
Speaker 1:We love Boys Town. We love Boys Town, love Boys Town. Queens of Boys Town we are. We are the queens of the Boys Town. Boys Town and I worked for the WWE. For the last eight years I worked for WWE traveling the world, so it was really cool with my job. I could live wherever I wanted to, as long as I was near a major airport and I could hop on a flight every Thursday to get to Friday Night Smackdown in time.
Speaker 1:Yep back down in time, yep um, and towards the end of my tenure there, which I I quit wwe june of 2024, I thought you know if I'm going to try to look for this next place in my life and career, los angeles is the place to go, because that's where all the television and film and stuff is happening. So that's how I got here. You, I mean you've lived in california forever.
Speaker 2:So I'm originally from California, I'm from the Bay Area East Bay 510 baby gotta represent um. I have been in Los Angeles, for I think the last time I counted was 18 years oh, and you're only 19, which is crazy.
Speaker 2:I'd like to think so. Um, yes I, I moved here. I was a dancer. I've been dancing my entire life. I danced competitively. Um, I moved out here when I was 18, right out of high school, because I got the opportunity to audition for the lakers and I was a laker girl dancer and so my parents were super supportive, so I moved out here in 07. Wow, right out of high school. Oh, seven, I was a sophomore in high school.
Speaker 1:I didn't mean to do that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, hold on a second I'm the baby. I didn't realize how young she was, okay, and so, yeah, that's kind of how my career started. I, I moved here, I did the Lakers for a year and then after that I've just full throttled myself into the world of modeling and acting and dancing and it's just been amazing.
Speaker 2:I mean, look, it's a roller coaster of a journey there has been highs the highest highs and there's been the lowest lows, but I'm still here and I'm still rocking and I still love what I do and I I hope that I can, um, inspire people to do the same, because it's never all just butterflies and rainbows in this industry, in the entertainment industry, but I feel like I've been really good at being able to mesh my passions together and to create a creative job for myself, yeah, and just doing something that you love, and I think that I think one of the greatest accomplishments in life is being able to say that you're doing something that you're passionate about, because not everybody can say that and of course it's not going to be easy to do that Like it's a, that is a goal that you just, if you make that goal, you have to understand there's gonna be a lot of shit that comes with it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean you have to realize the nose yes, lots of nose are. You have to let the nose feel like yeses in a way, in order to keep yourself neutral. I feel like in this industry, cause we hear so many no's and then when you do get that yes, you get so excited. But even when you hear a yes, sometimes you shoot something and it never comes out. So it's like it's. It's kind of finding that balance, of not letting your heart rate spike up too high or spike too low, but just knowing you're doing your best, you're giving your best and whatever's meant for you is going to come. And that's kind of been my mentality and, like I said, I've I've had very supportive family and friends around me for the last 18 years I've been here. So that is a huge thing to find your tribe, find your people.
Speaker 1:I think, like the theme song for this industry is bitch be humble.
Speaker 2:for this industry is bitch be humble literally keeps you humble for sure, no matter how you could be on up here, and then, literally the next day you're here, and then the next day you're here, and then you're back up here. Yeah, it's it is. It's a crazy thing and you got to stay confident and, you know, still love your life, regardless of which level you're on.
Speaker 1:You have to just go on the ride and just love the ride. I mean, you were recently in a really cool commercial around Super Bowl weekend.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, I was in a commercial with Lil Wayne.
Speaker 1:Lil Wayne, lil Weezy. We love him. Future friend of the show. We hope. Yes, we're going to bring him on. We're going to manifest this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was so much fun. Um, I was. It was for a C to fill commercial and I was a bottle girl in the commercial and the bottles were C to fill and they had little sparklers and you know it's for sensitive skin. Obviously, lil Wayne was not asked to to do the Super Bowl and I think that was a huge thing for yeah for the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2:um. So it was a really fun play on people, you know, thinking that how upset he was and all these things and it was cool, it was fun. He was great to work with, he was super professional and we were were in and out, so it was nice and it was cute, and it was fun.
Speaker 1:It was cute. I watched it. It was very fab. Well, yeah, that's like a little bit about us. We're both entertainers in different worlds of entertainment. I've been broadcast hosting for 10 years, like I previously mentioned, predominantly with WWE, and I stepped down in June this past year. Now I'm just looking for the next thing.
Speaker 2:Maybe this is going to be the next thing you know, maybe this is going to be the next big thing.
Speaker 1:Just chatting with my friend about, like you know, things and things and places and people.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no. And to not to mention like we're both Gemini's, by the way. Oh, yes, we are both Gemini's.
Speaker 1:I bet half the people who are watching just can't just blocked this account they don't want any more Gemini energy in their lives and they already have, because anybody who knows one Gemini. So isn't that crazy? Like anytime, I'm not a horoscope. I'm really not like.
Speaker 2:I either, I'm trying like people.
Speaker 1:I think a lot of people in my circle always want to talk about like horoscopes and like all the things that come around. I just don't get it, but I do know everyone fail, especially like millennials and Gen Z's want to be like what's your sign?
Speaker 2:And I'm like.
Speaker 1:I almost want to lie these days, because when I say Gemini, it's always like oh, okay, well, that makes sense.
Speaker 2:Like bitch what makes sense. See, I'm proud now. I used to be that way, but also she's younger than me.
Speaker 1:I am She'll get there. So I am so much younger.
Speaker 2:Remember when she was talking about like 2007, when she was not in high school and I was. But I do think now it's so like I see the beauty in being a Gemini. We're so adaptable.
Speaker 1:You could put us in any room and we're going to make friends, we're going to make conversations, we're going to be able to get people to tell us things because they feel comfortable with us and we'd be really good like assassins. Yeah, you know, I feel like I feel like we'd actually be good at that. Oh, for sure we could.
Speaker 1:You know, we can coax people into like telling us their secret, their government secrets, absolutely and then use it against them which we don't do that, though, that's not the type of gemini that we are but I've, I've, I've been around Geminis who are that way so I see it and I get it.
Speaker 2:Okay, like even when I was younger, there was a figure in my life who was a Gemini and they were crazy. And now that, as I look back as an adult and see the things that they did, I look and I'm like wait, this is like, I get it, this is crazy like we're in the same category as them, but we shouldn't be. We're very chill.
Speaker 1:I feel like every Gemini says exactly what we're saying, right?
Speaker 2:now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely. We think we're the exception to the Geminis, but you're a June Gemini.
Speaker 2:And you're a May Gemini, so I think the June.
Speaker 1:Geminis are known to be a little more awesome, a little more crazy.
Speaker 2:Oh crazy, I don't know about awesome, but crazy, I guess we're not finishing each other's sentences quite yet.
Speaker 1:We'll get there I want to talk about how you and I first met each other.
Speaker 1:Yes, so we met over two years ago, because before I moved to Los Angeles I was still in Florida and I moved out here for like a trial month and, funny enough, I didn't know anything about Los Angeles, I didn't have a lot of friends here, so I just picked a town or city that I, or an area that I thought I could live for a month. I picked inglewood. If you know anything about los angeles, I'm sorry, isn't the place you. I just didn't know. I just thought, oh, it's got to be near, like, like hollywood no, it's like an hour and it's I'm not not gonna.
Speaker 1:I loved, I had a great time in Englewood. That's all I'm gonna say about that.
Speaker 2:How long did you live there? I did not know this.
Speaker 1:30 days by myself in an Airbnb. My neighbors didn't speak English and they did not like me at all. And then I found out, like after I moved out of my Airbnb, that someone was squatting in the back shed so Lovely.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:But but that I was living here.
Speaker 2:Sounds about.
Speaker 1:Englewood Sounds about Englewood.
Speaker 2:Sounds about.
Speaker 1:Englewood, but I, we have mutual friends, yes, and I was invited to West Hollywood, I think for one of my like first West Hollywood experiences, and we met at the Abbey. We sure did honey. We met at the Abbey and I was so nervous to meet all these like cool LA, because Florida is cool, but in a very different way, like I live in st petersburg like so tampa, not miami, tampa and los angeles and west hollywood are different on like you can't even like yeah, and so I was so scared to meet all these really cool we hope people. And then I remember meeting you and I was like, oh my god, she's so pretty and I was like she seems so cool. I remember saying something to you. I was like I think I kept saying you have such a cool mouth.
Speaker 2:Yes, I remember, Wait, I remember I was like what the? Did I just say to her and I remember, and I remember, you know, obviously we met from our one of our really really good friends.
Speaker 1:Yes, he does our hair. He didn't do it today. No, we did it on our own but, we learned from Ian.
Speaker 2:We learned from Ian Max Schen yes, shut up, yes, king, yes. So he introduced us and I just remember him telling me oh, kayla is just such a cool girl like she reminds me so much of you. You guys need to meet and you know, I obviously always take everything with a grain of salt, but obviously open, and when I met this girl at WeHo it was so much fun. We just usually when I go to WeHo I'm with all the gays. You know, there's not, there's not many girls. Yeah, like hang out with us and just like, seamlessly, just hang out like with the on a normal basis, you know. And so to have you come in and just us hit it off right away, we were laughing, it was, yes, she made the comment about my mouth and I was like, oh, I met so kindly. But and then, and so to have you come in and just us hit it off right away, we were laughing, it was so fun. Yes, she made the comment about my mouth and I was like, oh, I meant it so kindly.
Speaker 1:And then I ended up asking Ian. I was like listen, I know people are like can you tell me where she is? He's like she's always had that mouth. I'm like okay, well, I was like who's her doctor? She's like Look at her. You understand what I mean. Thank you, she just has a smile. Stop. We did a photo shoot recently I'm just kidding and I saw, I think, the caption or someone was like something about your lips or your mouth. I don't remember what it was.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was probably, for I did a shoot for Allergan. Was that what it was? Allergan Allergan, I think it's pronounced. Sorry, oh, but like and it's it's for like, a. It's a skincare brand. Okay, I did their campaign and so they did add the tiniest amount of filler. Okay, that's fine, because they have to. Of course, it's like you know, you have to add it if you're doing a campaign.
Speaker 1:It can't but you've, I saw your photos when you were a little girl doing photo. You did what? Limited to, not limited to what? Um, I did hello kitty, hello kitty.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and r was my first.
Speaker 1:You showed me a picture. I'm like oh no, she's always been this perfect, she's just not perfect Well on the outside, but thank you.
Speaker 2:We'll get to the inside. Another episode. Yes, yeah, that's a whole other episode, a two-parter, a two-parter.
Speaker 1:But yeah, I don't know. But yeah, I don't know. I do think I think we hit it off. You know, pretty quickly I feel like we I was traveling a lot for work for the last couple years, so we haven't like been able to really just I don't know.
Speaker 2:I feel, like you're the friend of mine, that we can go to each other's houses and like, or we sit and we just talk and have wine, and then you know, like we go to the store and get maybe another bottle of wine.
Speaker 1:And maybe a third. Yeah, and we're just like talking and shooting the shit. Great things happen on Tuesdays, yeah.
Speaker 2:Literally. You know, we've been getting together the last few weeks and just vibing out and it's cool because obviously you know, were podcast compatible, podcastable like compatible, but podcastable compatible. What is it compatible, pod compatible? We got it. I think we are. I think we are with that, right there. I think we are, we're figuring it out.
Speaker 1:Well, speaking of figuring it out, that's what we're doing Obviously, episode one of Milk and Honeys, we're going to figure it out, and we're going to figure it out with all of you who are tuning in week to week, clearly, since we live, like I said, in the mecca of entertainment and Hollywood and whatever. We're going to talk about things that we are all hearing and reading every single day, watching on the tiktok, uh, which I consume way too much of, are you?
Speaker 2:tiktok. You know I I'm starting to get to a place where I am a doom scroller, tiktoker, yes, um, I I'm like in bed and I'm usually an instagram girly, but there has been more nights, as of late, that I go on Tik TOK and I'm just an hour goes by and I'm like, oh, I know my alarm, I need those eight hours, like I gotta go to bed, you know, and you're saving things to, to, to maybe do later on, and I'm like I never do them, I never. I save them a lot.
Speaker 1:I feel like I use it a lot for recipes, like I do do a lot of recipe saving and I actually do, and then I'll do some like there's a couple workout chicks on there so I'm like, okay, I, I will follow their workouts at the gym, yeah, and then I like to share like really in my opinion, hilarious fail like people getting like hurt and falling down. Yeah, which is one of my favorite things in the world is seeing people because I'm very calm. Like today we wanted to have like a couple mimosas before our first episode. Yep, and I was walking before I even had the mimosa. I was walking back in the store and all these cars are lined up and I like was this close to eating it?
Speaker 1:Like I mean, I tripped so hard to where people like looked where they're concerned about me, yeah, and that's that would be. If someone got that on camera, that would be really funny and I would watch it on TikTok. So that is my and I would not be mad if that was on TikTok, I'd understand. No, because that brings so much joy is watching other people fall as long, as long as they're OK.
Speaker 2:OK, just you know, just disclaimer as long as everyone's actually okay in the video, because I like those videos, but when it's like too much, I do cringe and I feel bad and then I just want to like go through the screen and help them.
Speaker 1:I think you're way nicer than I am. I know I am that's good, though I think it's a good balance. I feel like you're an empath too, you know what I am an empath I am, but I am sometimes too much of an empath Like, too empath.
Speaker 2:Just pull it back a little, like this is actually not happening to you. Yeah, but I no you know, don't change.
Speaker 1:I think that's good. No, I think that's good.
Speaker 2:You know, you know.
Speaker 1:Now I'm going to like pay closer attention to how, how empathetic I can be. I'm not so qualified to be called an impact. Maybe that card should be revoked for me, I don't know. Well, it's been a crazy award season, it has. We're in the midst of that. It has. We've had the Grammys. We just had what? The? The SAG Awards, the SAG Awards. I don't know when this episode will be hitting you, but at this moment, this is the day before the.
Speaker 1:Oscars which we're all excited about, so excited about. What have you thought about the award season this? This year it's been. I think it's been really cool seeing like. I mean, I don't know, I feel like I haven't paid that much attention to it in previous years, but I know like everything it can be very political about, like who is taking home. I know there's been a lot of complaints. There's also been like a lot of really exciting people and projects that are getting, I think, respect and acknowledgement they've deserved Absolutely.
Speaker 2:I, I understand where you're coming from, with the not really being aware of who's nominated and things like that in the past, but I do feel so deeply connected with certain people who are nominated and it's and I, I like I need them to win.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like I need to me to me, to me, it's noti, it's not Demi, it's not Demi, it's not Demi Glades, it's Demi War, it's Demi, demi War, demi War, demi War. Will you come on our?
Speaker 2:show Demi War. Wow, okay, she's got it. Take, take seven. Demi War, yes, is just having her moment right now and I am just. I feel like I'm in the moment with her. I'm so deserving, oh my god. She is just so deserving, she's she seems. I don't know her personally, but she seems like just such a cool person in general and it's just to take on the role in the substance which I watched last night.
Speaker 1:I know, oh my god, best. That was my top movie of 2024. It is top movie and I watch movies. Every like I watch a different movie, typically horror movie, but a movie every single night and that was my number one that is my number one so far, for 2025 as well. Oh, I watched it're predicting that nothing is going to be better than that for the next we're only in February March. Are we in March, yet Is today March 1st. Is it we're filming this on March 1st March?
Speaker 2:1st, it is March 1st of 2025. Okay, and so far best film I've watched.
Speaker 1:So 2024, yes, absolutely, but this year this year, and, to be fair, you watched it very late.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I did so, I think if you, yeah, so it's okay, even though not watching it and only seeing clips that I've seen of it prior to this. Yeah, I even said to myself well, she deserves to win it all. Yeah, so then, now that I've actually watched the film, last night. I was literally I will put on a film sometimes and kind of clean. I have two cats, so like there's always hair everywhere your cat's your cat's names Romy and Michelle Romy and. Michelle, oh, the loves of my life.
Speaker 1:That should actually be the portrait we put behind us, literally. We should do a whole. Romy and Michelle photo shoot.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, we should so you know, I put on movies sometimes and I try to do things around the house, but I caught myself so many times last night. I was in the kitchen, at one point, I think, putting the dishes away, and when I tell you I turned. I was staring at the television just like this the whole time, like with my arms crossed.
Speaker 1:Like a dad or husband who doesn't want to watch a reality show.
Speaker 2:That they're yes.
Speaker 1:And then they keep creeping in like watching, watching, watching, until they get so invested and they start asking questions.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and they come in and they're like oh my God, rebecca said that I don't even know her name. How do you know her name? And that was you. That was me. I remember sitting on the couch, probably watching the film for like a good 15 minutes, just like you know, up against the television, and then I looked to my left and my dishes. My dishwasher door was still down and I was like oh, well, I also have.
Speaker 2:Well, we also have ADHD, so that does happen, you know. So, like I, I was like, oh, I need to put the dishes away. Still, I'll do it later I just kept kept watching it over and over. And I'm not a horror person no, she's not. I am Kayla wishes.
Speaker 1:I was a horror lover? Yeah, I'm not. She saw my bedroom for the first time and all I have in my bedroom are photos of iconic horror movie scenes. Yep, that's the kind of sick individual that I am, and I love it.
Speaker 2:I wish I could be that way, but I just genuinely think when I watch certain horror not all horror, because I do love suspense and action and all that but when I do watch certain horror films, I feel like it's gonna happen to me and it gets kind of wish, a substance would happen to me like that's what we want.
Speaker 1:No, I mean not, not, not by the end of the movie, but I don't want my goop to just. Hollywood Boulevard.
Speaker 2:Definitely not. But this one I even told Kayla I was like I watched it at night. I watched it at night, and you know why? Because I was like I can do this and it's Demi Moore. And I did. And I wasn't. I slept like a baby last night. I didn't have nightmares, I wasn't scared to go take a shower.
Speaker 1:I feel like that's not really one of those horror movies, though that would make you scared. It's not Because, like what in that movie could happen to you, right, unless you're like taking Unless I get an exhilarator, is that? What? Or an accelerator.
Speaker 2:Unless you make the steps to like do it, yeah, you're gonna be safe yeah, but like boohoo, like chasing you with an axe, most of the time I'm not.
Speaker 1:I'm probably not gonna watch you're gonna watch that and if I do watch it, it's gonna be at like 12 pm with like a lot of sunlight and like maybe 10 people at your house with you, absolutely, and you're not leaving you're spending the night the thing about demi that I appreciate.
Speaker 1:So she's obviously she's been in hollywood forever.
Speaker 1:Like we grew up I mean our, yeah, mom grew you know like she's always been around and I read somewhere, so I there's this new show called um land man, which is a really great like if you're a fan of yellowstone or any of that kind of western stuff, it's a great show. Um, anyway, she has a very small role in there and I don't know when she took the role or when that was filmed, but I know I read something that was like she was planning on just like stepping on hollywood, being done with hollywood and quitting hollywood, because like nothing was really like lining up for her, and I feel like that role that she took, which came out like right around the same time the substance did, I feel like that was her last role in her mind, yeah, and then she was presented with the substance and it's completely revitalized her career and I feel like she's gotten like a second wind and I only hope that directors and and producers and writers are looking at her for more projects, because she embodied, like she embodied this role.
Speaker 1:In a way. I don't think anybody else like I was trying to like run down what other, like actresses who are around the same age with the same notoriety, could have done as good of a job as Demi? Yeah, and I honestly couldn't come up with that many. No, and I feel like it had to be such a personal role for her too because, like, I walked out of that that film as a woman in Hollywood. We're in our 30s and yes, that's not, but in Hollywood it can be perceived as as old. And I have been going through all this like, oh my God, like I'm not in my you know, I'm not 22 anymore Like maybe I need to start getting this done, or getting this little nip tuck done, or getting this like face, like all these things. I've been going through my head as an on air personality and I head as an on-air personality and I walked out of there just like you know what, it doesn't matter what the hell you do to yourself if you're not doing it for your own personal joy and fulfillment. It doesn't matter because at the end of the day, as we saw the end of substance, your whole career and life and the memory of you is going to be wiped away. Yep, just disposed of and everyone's going to forget you. I mean, yes, yes, people leave legacies, but if you look at some like this new generation coming through, they don't know.
Speaker 1:I've been seeing people do this Fresh Prince of Bel-Air trend lately. I'm like y'all don't even know what Fresh Prince of Bel-Air is. Wait, what is the trend? It's like this like there was a moment when, like Ashley Banks was like dancing in her room and then will walks in and then like she has her headphones on so she doesn't realize he's watching her and he like starts doing. I'm like y'all are like 22 doing a will, like a will smith freshman spiller impression. You don't, I guarantee you've never watched an episode of that show. Yeah, but that is just how it is these days. People are just like wiping away, like the legends and the like iconic, like performances. Just you just get washed away. So anything that we do for anything that we do, especially as women, to ourselves, needs to be.
Speaker 1:I get botox for myself honestly I just like the way I look better with some botox I'm gonna be honest about that, and honestly, not because I'm worried about a casting director, no and honestly, it helps my migraines I'm not gonna lie, it helps my my, I get, I have, I get masseter botox because I grind my teeth like my teeth are like down and up, like I do it for like but it does make me feel better like I don't have any botox right now.
Speaker 1:Obviously you can see like I have no, okay, no, no, but then screw you. No, no, but it is no, but it is it is like it is gone.
Speaker 2:I haven't gotten. I am due for another session, right, and I have been getting headaches like more often in the morning. So I kind of didn't do it because I was like, okay, let me see, let me see, cause it did feel like it helped. And then I stopped doing it and I'm like, let me just let this be a moment where I can ask myself is this actually helping me with my migraines? I've been, I've had migraines my entire like since I was in high school. Really, I migraine medication, all the things. But I'm not gonna lie, botox did help me. I'd say like 70 of my migraines cut because of botox. So, but at the end of the day, not that we're just talking about botox, but like, at the end of the day, do we're looking for sponsors?
Speaker 1:yeah, if so, if any botox?
Speaker 2:people out there want, you know, get in on our migraine and our clenching jaws Stick me, prick me. But there's a way to do it right. I mean, like, demi Moore looks fantastic, she looks so good, oh my God, so good.
Speaker 1:And people want to. They want to hate on her, they want to hate on anybody, they want to hate on anybody.
Speaker 2:Because if you're, if like we said, if you're too skinny, it people hate on you. If you've gained weight, yeah, people hate on you, and it's it's just who cares?
Speaker 1:I don't understand why this is a topic of discussion like stop stop being so worried about how other people like choose to hang like. I'm gonna talk about selena gomez. Bless her heart. Like she has had a rough go at it since she honestly probably since she started dating justin bieber, which was how many years ago now? Yeah, no, people have just not let it go right. So I saw this side by side photo of selena gomez on red carpets. One was from last year, uh, wearing a white dress, and then from this year at the SAG Awards. Sag Awards Beautiful in both. But all the comments on the left side was like she looks like a tank. Maybe it's time for her to go on Ozempic. She's so fat. And then now in this one where she's lost all this weight, it's like wow, looks like somebody just had to be lazy and go on Ozempic. Someone should tell her that skinny isn't prettier. I'm like you cannot win with these people like it's like you're damned if you do, you damned if you don't.
Speaker 1:And people want to be like well, you chose this life, you chose this career. You should be able to handle it. Not one mother person who is on your television signed up to be constantly bullied and berated for the way they look, like it doesn't matter how much money you're making. We see, we see it and unfortunately, we see like people who take their own lives because of you know, because of the way, because of comments, because of comments.
Speaker 2:It's like it does matter like it does and and I and I think that it's it is such a tough industry. It's. That's why I'm saying, watching the substance, I felt so many things. I'm a 35-year-old woman and I've been in this industry since I was 15 years old. Looking back even 10 years ago, I'm like, oh, I look back and I remember feeling like I was so fat. I had an agent one time touch the side of my butt, and this was before, like butts were a thing obviously back in the day.
Speaker 1:Thanks for asking. Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2:But this was before. Like having a booty was cool and I will never forget. Like one of the agencies I went in to have a meeting with, they touched the side of my butt and they were like, can you shave off this? Just like, maybe like five, seven pounds on. I'm like, oh, that's my bone, I can't really do that. And so it had me such like so many weird moments in my life I remember from. That moment led me and it's like I think back and I look back on photos, 10 years ago even, and I'm like, oh, you looked amazing, but I didn't think yeah, because you're not made to feel that right, and I'm so worried about what other people thinking and things like that.
Speaker 2:So you know, at the end of the day, demi, demi, okay, my gosh, we're gonna, we'll figure it out, we will figure it out.
Speaker 1:I think again she should come on the show and correct us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, would be the best course of action we would love to have you but also we think you're freaking incredible and such an inspiration to like you know women everywhere and it's just hard, even like the Kardashians are funny to watch, which I have always watched their shows. It's so funny to watch, like the like when they first hit, everyone was like, oh wow, curvy is in the big ass. You know the hips like the big boobs, like embracing all of that, and of course, they got like their work done and their bbls or whatever. Great more power to you. But now if you watch their show, everyone is getting super skinny again and it's like they are. I mean, we're being real and I'm not hating on them for it. This is just. This is their business. They are the trendsetters when it comes to women and what's normal and considered beautiful in Hollywood, absolutely, and so I think Kourtney Kardashian has done a good job of kind of stepping away from that, especially in watching, but she's also just had a baby with Travis.
Speaker 1:Barker, whatever. It's just hard. It is hard, like I know, for me. My weight's always fluctuated. I'm very short, so like five pounds can look like 20 pounds on my body and I'm like, if you look at my mom, like everyone just has big hips and big butts, like that's just how we're all built. But towards the end of my time with WWE, I was getting a lot of like Kayla's got so fat, like I got a lot of stuff like that too, and I've always been self-conscious. Like from being a little girl. I was very self-confident. I was a fat kid, like I really was a chubby kid and to the point where, like I had people, like my parents, had me go on like a weight loss journey in order to participate in like a beauty pageant Really, and like, looking back, it needed to happen. Like I was like kind of going, like I was a fat kid. But I was raised in the South where, like, mothers harp on their daughters about like being skinny beauty beauty exactly are.
Speaker 2:It is it so as an adult.
Speaker 1:I'm like so when I'm getting all this about me. So then I lost a lot of weight, like this past year I got like super skinny. So my friends were like something you know, maybe you should so, but but even the internet then was like oh wow, like she's like uglier. Now I'm like you're damned if you do, you're damned if you don't.
Speaker 1:And again I think the overall message that I took from the substance was like and that and that was, it doesn't matter, like be happy with yourself, like be like confident in who you are, not because of anybody else. What they're saying in your ear, yep, and then that is like how you're going to be happy, because otherwise you know it doesn't work. It doesn't work, that's just that's just the, the message to.
Speaker 2:Every time. They would call the the boss man right in the film and say and and uh dennis quaid and argue yes, and our the ultimate.
Speaker 1:We wasn't even supposed to have that role. He got someone, he was replaced someone last really for that. It was he was phenomenal, he was. He represented every disgusting man.
Speaker 2:I've ever worked for. And also Caroline. What is her name? Carolee, farge, farge, I think she says Farge.
Speaker 1:Farge or Carolee, I think it's Coralie Farge. Coralie, I think. Coralie Farge. I think If we are incorrect, we will correct that we apologize, but regardless bra va chef's mother effing kiss Like she.
Speaker 2:I watched an interview with her and it's just how everything was filmed so perfectly, yeah, like even in the bathroom scene where he comes in and he's talking and peeing and saying how old she is and all these things and just talking negatively. It's. It's one of those things where I I saw in an interview. She said we had a wide camera and we kept it there. That's all one shot.
Speaker 2:And I didn't realize that when I was watching it, until I saw the interview and I she goes. Everything in the film. We wanted to be so symmetrical, even the hallway where she walks down with all her posters on the side, and because that's what she wants, that's what they want, that's what the people want is perfection, right, but it's. It's not. Everything else that you see in that film is not perfect, but when it came to the actual um, the camera angles, they were so specific and it was just just to hear her talk about it. It's just specific and it was just just to hear her talk about it. It's just brilliant. Like she's just brilliant and just the cinematography is just oh, shout out to our female bosses in Hollywood, absolutely yes, I love it, which is what we are aspiring to be.
Speaker 1:Yes, starting today.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, we were manifesting, and now we're here. So it's all the small steps that create the big journey, and so I'm trying. I like that, small steps. Yeah, I'm trying to remember that those small steps should be celebrated just as much as the big accomplishments that obviously we know and the outsiders know. But you know, like this right now is like a small step for us. We met, we had this idea and now we're here Exactly.
Speaker 1:We're doing this so that's great and giving ourselves like credit and pats on the back for that. I know I'm really guilty. I think one of my biggest flaws and I have like none I'm kidding. Oh my God, I need to live like.
Speaker 2:Kayla.
Speaker 1:OK, I think I. But what I was like? Oh my god, I need to live like kayla. Okay, I think I'm guilty. I think also it just goes with, like the career path that we took I do care a lot about public perception and like what other?
Speaker 1:people think. And when I quit my job I was like, oh my god, like I better start like doing something big now, where people are like, oh wow, she can't make it without wwe or she like needs a machine behind her to make it. And it's like to where I'm now eight months removed and I'm like I've had some small victories since then and I've done some cool stuff, but I haven't like let myself acknowledge it and like live in it a little bit and give myself any credit, because I'm like, no, but like the world hasn't seen what I've done yet, and it's like, no, kayla, like you can't keep looking, you can't keep doing that to yourself because, yeah, you have to celebrate those small things.
Speaker 2:And the world doesn't deserve to know all of our small wins they don't. Not that they don't deserve you do deserve to know all of our small wins, but we don't need to share them. Some things can be private and internalized and it's that moment where we realize, oh, we did make that small step that's going to lead to a bigger picture, because I am guilty of seeing the bigger picture and getting anxiety over everything that has to lead up to that big picture?
Speaker 1:Yeah, of course.
Speaker 2:And instead of having fun with it, then you're just like worried about it. You know what I mean, so I'm glad like we're taking a small step.
Speaker 1:We are. We're taking a very small step. Yeah, one giant leap from man. Wait, what's the?
Speaker 2:one, one giant leap for mankind. No, anyway, we'll, we'll figure it out.
Speaker 1:OK, we land, we're landing on the moon. We are. This is you. Welcome to the moon.
Speaker 2:Mankind, did you watch that show?
Speaker 1:no, wait, wait. Okay, let's talk about what we're watching yeah, what wait?
Speaker 2:what's mankind? Mankind is a show about these people living in space.
Speaker 1:Okay and I'm interested, I love space.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so basically mankind is about, instead of the Americans landing on the moon first. What if the other people landed on the moon first, like the aliens? No, no, no. Who were we against? Like….
Speaker 1:Dennis, you know what we're talking about. Can you also? Can you quote what we were trying to quote? Which one? One small step for man, one giant leap for mankind. There we go.
Speaker 2:We just combined the two. One small step for man, one huge step for mankind. We'll get it one day. Wait, but for mankind, what was it? It was the Americans not landing on the moon, but the russians okay, so you know right. Yes, okay, so the russians landed on the moon first, okay, and then it kind of spirals, so it's like, if that's how it starts that's a watch that and it's amazing it's okay, wait.
Speaker 1:Where can I watch it like when?
Speaker 2:is it? I need a new show.
Speaker 1:I'll find it. Yeah, technology, there's so many streaming services. There are so many, I know. I've been trying to.
Speaker 2:What? The one that we both are watching that we need to talk about is Paradise.
Speaker 1:Oh, my Okay, sterling K Brown A. I loved him from this Is Us. He is such a good actor. Then I saw his movie. I just watched wave. It's called wave, okay. Anyway, this guy is just, it's barren and you know, he turned down. He got offered a role on the boys, which I love the boys but he turned it down to do this. So I think it was like either or because of like filming schedules and he made the, because I think the boys is on this last season and it's all new. Fuck, it's all new. Um, I haven't figured out cussing yet on this show. By the way, I have a potty mouth.
Speaker 2:I know I do too, but I've been good today.
Speaker 1:I don't know the YouTube rules. I'm going to Google the YouTube rules of cussing after this episode, and then we'll say all of our potty words. Anyway, he was so freaking good.
Speaker 2:He doesn't even have to speak and you know exactly what he's saying. That's an actor. That is an actor. That is an actor, an actor, an actor.
Speaker 1:Such a good show if you're not watching it. The finale, I think, is this next week, but basically it's a post-apocalyptic scenario which I think we all think is like when stuff gets real up here on Earth is there a place that you can go, selected people that can go, that can kind of rebuild.
Speaker 2:And so anyway go, yep, uh, selected people that can go that kind of rebuild and so anyway, I'm so excited for the.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we don't want to ruin it for anybody, by the time this air, by the time this airs, I'm sure that has aired yeah, phenomenal show phenomenal, like it's just the best show on television right now. I I'm saying well, you know, and I feel like I was kind of skeptical at first, I think this last episode, which is episode seven, I believe, was what is when he was talking to his wife. That was one of the best episodes of television I've seen in in quite a long time.
Speaker 2:They captured the chaos of the world actually ending so quickly. Yeah, in the oval office. In the Oval Office, yeah, and then in the betrayal, the devastation, like it was just. It was just pure perfection of a chaotic scenario.
Speaker 1:I think it seems like it'd be pretty on par with what will if that happens, I'd say when that happens is more realistic.
Speaker 2:I don't think it's an if anymore. I think it's when.
Speaker 1:I mean we may not be alive when it happens but eventually, what about the asteroid or whatever that's supposed to hit the UK? And now? Okay, so here's my thing After watching this last episode so this whole like asteroid or whatever was like a 2% chance it was going to hit the UK in like eight years. Cool, now there's no chance. I don't trust that at all. If you, if you tell people, if you tell humankind that, hey, in eight years this could happen, mayhem is going, it's gonna break out. Everyone's gonna be starting building bunkers, buying land, like. I don't trust any government, honestly, when it comes to like when the world is going to end. No, I don't think they're gonna tell us. Just like we saw on that show, they didn didn't tell the people until he had the change of wanted to like and it was too late. I don't think we will be told if a massive asteroid is heading towards us.
Speaker 1:I just don't think we will be. I think they're going to keep that from us, because what's going to happen Anytime? Anything crazy happens in politics? Everyone goes batshit crazy. It's chaos. Yeah, goes batshit crazy, it's chaos, yeah, it's chaos. Imagine the world's in eight years. I'll tell you right now I'm not applying for any more jobs. No, I'm going to go travel the world and I might break a few laws. Yeah, don't quote me on that. But I'm just telling you the world is in eight years.
Speaker 2:I don't care If it's eight years, it's probably going to be four.
Speaker 1:It's probably going to be four, and you know what I've always wanted to hijack a car, or at least learn how to. Okay, I am not condoning this, by the way. Vanessa said she will help me.
Speaker 2:I am not a part of this situation. What other shows are you watching right now? Okay, so Apple.
Speaker 1:Cider Vinegar. Oh my gosh, scam artist crazy. And then the one you told me last night to watch.
Speaker 2:I watched the first episode about ruby frankie. What a psycho bitch you guys, who does things like that?
Speaker 1:who does that like?
Speaker 2:who I just I, oh my gosh, I have two nieces. Okay, like I don't have a lot of kids in my life, but I have two nieces in my life that I am obsessed with and I love so much. If someone has so little to do something just wrong to them, I would literally kill you.
Speaker 1:I mean not. I mean I've only watched the first episode. Like I can't wait I'm probably like tomorrow to lay on the couch and watch the other two, uh, that are out. So I was raised in a foster home. So I was from age 9 to 18. I was in a foster family, so there was a ton of kids like six to kids so I was kind of put myself in like their shoes or whatever. My foster parents never even. Yeah, of course they discipline us the way you're supposed to discipline your kids, but what Ruby Frankie was doing and like the fact they've released all of this footage that wasn't seen the way she would talk to her kids and like I, it makes me sick to my stomach, yep. And then it was able to go on for so long until they were making $100,000 plus a month abusing their children.
Speaker 2:It's insane that the documentary has this new documentary has their two oldest children and their or her husband. Yeah, and well they, at the time of filming, I believe they were still married, but at the end, well you'll, you'll find whatever, don't spoil for me.
Speaker 1:Sorry, I'm not spoiling for you.
Speaker 2:But I mean, would you still be with somebody like that who's about to spend x amount of time in jail?
Speaker 1:for that, for that, no, the moment. If I ever have kids and I find out my husband or wife or whoever does one no, you're gone. No, you're gone, you're gone, you're dead so it's.
Speaker 2:It is interesting to hear their perspectives on everything, because it's their. Their perspectives are so different between the three of them and I just I, I really, really feel for this. The younger children, because you only get one childhood. Yeah, you only get one I know.
Speaker 1:And that one does stay with you for the rest of your life I mean, I'm a testament.
Speaker 1:We're both testaments to that and we'll get to that on another episode because, I mean, vanessa and I, we have shared with each other some unfortunate things that happened to us when we were kids. That clearly has bled into our adulthood and we've done the best we can with it. But one thing that we didn't have to deal with because it wasn't a thing back then was like social media Cause we didn't grow up with it and we're always seeing like all of the very personal, like she's starting their first period or going through puberty the stuff that Ruby just decided to put on the internet about her children who didn't have control over that, and now that will always be on the internet. It breaks my heart. That is a form of violation that, like I can't wrap my head around yeah, there, there's, there's.
Speaker 2:These types of people prove to me that evil truly does exist in human form. Absolutely, and she is one of those people that I would put in that category, like she doesn't even have he, she doesn't even have room. I think in hell, I think there's something darker and she's going there.
Speaker 1:I mean it's, it's, it's really weird kind of abuse towards the helpless, whether it's children or animals. I do believe there's a deeper.
Speaker 2:The devil doesn't even want you no, and it's crazy, like you I mean. I'm sure you saw in the first episode where she's filming herself and then just getting angry because you can't get it down. Yes, and her face it's. It was scary. It's the switch, it's the switch up. It's like you think you're watching a scripted series but you're not.
Speaker 1:Honestly I actually I thought I was at first, oh there's someone acting. I literally thought. When I saw I was like oh this is someone like portraying her.
Speaker 2:I'm like, oh no, no, this is actually footage of her.
Speaker 1:Oh, let's just take a, take a breath, take a breath.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, I can't wait, yeah that yeah, god bless their hearts like the yeah that show is is. It is intense, but yeah, those are my three top shows right now paradise, apple cider vinegar. I obviously already finished.
Speaker 1:Can't imagine, I mean, there's so many people out there who are lying about cancer, which is so strange, like it's just like I think I just can't wrap my head around people that I mean I'm, I'm probably crazy, same, but like that level of crazy doesn't resonate with me, like lying about cancer consistently for years and getting money and creating like I can't know understand that at all.
Speaker 2:No, my crazy is like getting maybe a little too drunk and my laugh is like you know and I'm like like screaming.
Speaker 1:We think we're crazy, we're not, we're actually not crazy at all.
Speaker 2:That's my kind of crazy. We're just fun and normal yeah, and maybe a little wild. Sometimes we're wild. I think our mental health is pretty much. I mean, mental health is another thing, but I think we're going in a good path.
Speaker 1:Okay, but like sometimes we're good people.
Speaker 2:I think that's it. We're good people who just laugh obnoxiously Cause I do when I like, listen to, like videos or, you know, my boyfriend or my mom usually it's my boyfriend or my mom will be like oh, you know, my boyfriend or my mom usually it's my boyfriend. My mom will be like, oh my gosh, I could hear your laugh in the video. You're not even in it and I know it's you.
Speaker 1:That's a great legacy to leave, is it? I think so, I think okay I think, one day I'm okay. This is a very morbid thing for me to say, but you'll learn as the episodes go on. I'm a very dark person. Yeah, um, I think about like when I die, like at my funeral. What will people say about If what they say about me is like oh my God, you could always hear a laugh in the next room. That's the greatest thing to be like. That's a great thing for someone to say.
Speaker 2:You know what I know, that's right.
Speaker 1:Well, listen, I'm looking at the clock right now. I told you we would run through this really quickly.
Speaker 2:So fast, I know, but we covered such great stuff today too.
Speaker 1:We did, and this is kind of what you guys can expect when you tune in. It's going to be a learning curve for all of us as we move on. Hopefully you guys subscribe. We set up our Instagram account, which is Milk and Honey's. Pod.
Speaker 2:Yes, milk and Honey's.
Speaker 1:Pod. It's so hard these days to find a.
Speaker 2:Milk and Honey's.
Speaker 1:Pod Milk and honey's pod. It's so hard these days to find honey's pod milk and honey's pod because you can't. Instagram's been around too long. You can never find your like, what handle you want, because somebody's already taken it everyone.
Speaker 2:Somebody has it and they're not using it, and then they want to charge you for it and it's like, no, we're not paying like a thousand dollars for this, absolutely not so milk and honey's pod, and then we're also on youtube as well at it's milk and honey's.
Speaker 1:So, um, yeah, we're gonna also have. Even we're also on YouTube as well at it's milk and honey. So, um, yeah, we're going to also have. Even we're calling our party crashers. We're going to have party crashers come in and we'll have guests. Uh, I recently reached out to um some actor friends of mine who are on like shows that you guys are probably watching. We both have friends in the industry, but also just like our friends, who are just our friends, like, yeah, we hang out in west hollywood, we have. We love our gays, we love our drag queens, we love our trans queens like we're gonna have a an array of people joining us and even if you're not coming in here physically, like in person, we're gonna have uninvited guests, right?
Speaker 2:so we'll you'll be able to dm or like call in and ask us questions and we can give you guys advice, and it's the best, to our knowledge, you know. I mean, we've lived a lot of lives and life and so I think through that we can give some really great advice. I think so too, and I'm excited to do that for people, because I've always had people give me great advice who maybe are a little older than me. And like, at the end of the day, the only time that you really have the best advice is if you're living through certain things and you go through it and you figure it out and what is working for you, what's not working for you. So it's just, um, I'm excited I'm excited for that.
Speaker 1:I'm excited it's gonna it's gonna be fun. I think we're gonna name our if you guys want to send in stories, whatever it's going to be called our Honey Hotline. I think that's what our working name is Honey Hotline, Honey Hotline. We're going to be asking some things of you guys. Honey, honey, follow along with us. This is going to be fun. Vanessa and I are a good time, as you, I'm sure, could already tell. We have plenty of stories to tell life experiences.
Speaker 1:And I think we can just relate to all of you in a lot of different ways. We are yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm really excited. I think that this it's something to me that I've always struggled with using my voice, and so I do think that this is such, this has been such a challenge And've had moments leading up to this, the last few days, of a somewhat like anxiety, but not not a bad anxiety. I struggle from anxiety, so I I understand when I'm feeling certain things, I really sit with it and I'm like, okay, why am I feeling this? And it's it's because I'm doing something so new. Yeah, and you know, like you said, like we've been in this industry for so long and our whole industry has to do with other people's opinions, whether they're going to book us or they're not going to book us, and it's that is just, essentially. That is what our job is right, like people are deciding for this specific job or role or title, or you know. And so I think I've struggled with just using my voice as it actually is, and so I'm excited and I'm really like thankful that you've wanted to do this with somebody too, you know. So thank you.
Speaker 2:Not somebody with you, I mean, yes, with me, but you know it's like I've always wanted to do a podcast, but it is something so personal and so being able to do it with you is just really comforting and fun, and I just. We have such a good time when we're together, so I feel safe with you, so, thank you All right, enough affection.
Speaker 1:Well, listen, I think that wraps up our first episode. You are running out of time, but please come back, vanessa, and I will open up more about you know. We want you to feel like you're on the couch with us and that you're our friend and that we can, you know, share our personal stories and lives with you, and we will dive more into our personal lives as we go on. We'll dive more into our personal lives as we go on, but we appreciate you watching this episode, episode one. It's going to go down in freaking herstory over here, over here, yes and yeah, follow along again. Social media, youtube, and then, if you do follow us on, when you follow us on Instagram, we will continue to roll out information on how you can be more involved, moving forward. But absolutely, yeah, thanks everyone for watching. Yeah, thanks everyone for watching.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that's it for today's pour of milk and honey. Yes, milk and honey, we're figuring out taglines Okay.
Speaker 1:So let us know if you like that one Submit more.
Speaker 2:But yeah, you know, don't forget to stir things up, but like share the love, share the love, share the love. We want to hear what you guys have to say and we want to be able to be voices for people who follow. Exactly that's the essential goal, absolutely. We'll see you guys next time, is that?
Speaker 1:how we end it Is that how we end it, we're learning. And that's it. That is fine. That's a wrap. We need to get a thing. That's it.
Speaker 2:See, ya Deuces.
Speaker 1:Deuces, deuces, peace. Are we allowed to salute us at our age?
