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Milk & Honeys
Episode 2: Scott Evans is Running Point with the Honeys w/ Kayla Becker and Vanessa Curry
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This week on Milk & Honeys, your favorite duo Kayla Becker and Vanessa Curry are joined by the ever-charming, always hilarious Scott Evans! We kick things off with some rapid-fire fun, dive into hot topics from the Barbie phenomenon to Hollywood chaos, and then get real about Scott’s journey—from early auditions to stealing scenes in Netflix’s new hit series Running Point.
Of course, it wouldn’t be a Milk & Honeys episode without a little chaos, so stick around for a juicy round of Sip or Spill, where Scott dishes on everything from celeb crushes and awkward after party interactions.
It’s unfiltered, unexpected, and completely unforgettable.
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Meet Scott Evans
Speaker 1all right , everybody , welcome back to another episode of milk and honeys . We're your hosts , kayla becker and , of course , the lovely yes , and so we're excited you guys are joining us , uh , on this adventure . Even more exciting is that we're actually , uh , introducing our first guest on the show . Um , he's over here to my left . You just heard him . Everybody this is the one and only scott evans .
Speaker 1It's funny you say that because it's not the one and only what's funny about that is I was talking to my manager and he was like yeah , we represent scott evans . I'm like oh my god , I love scott evans . He was yeah no , he used to work in like broadcast television .
Speaker 1I was like , oh my god , I've got to talk to my friend scott about the fact he started in my career and now , look at him now , and it didn't hit me until kind of recently like , oh , the other scott evans we will show up at events and they'll be like I'll make scott evans and I'll see on the sheet his picture .
Speaker 3I'll be like well , literally .
Speaker 1I was like what kind of like you know treatment does my friend scott evans get ?
Speaker 3because this is not , oh I got an invite to duane wade and gabrielle union's oscars after party and I said to my manager I go , you might want to reply and just clarify . And I never heard back all right .
Speaker 1Can you imagine if I showed up , you should , we didn't invite ?
Speaker 2you . You're like , you're not Scott .
Speaker 3Evans Nope , you're the white one , you're the white one .
Speaker 1Well , scott , I really appreciate you coming on and doing this , of course , I know we haven't gotten to see each other a lot lately , but I'm so freaking proud of you . How has life been . I mean , I feel like I know the answer to that .
Speaker 3Well , I mean , since the show came out , it's been incredible . But the industry is kind of a mess , right now . It's been tough , but listen the response to the show makes me feel good . It got picked up for season two .
Speaker 2Yes , I know , I don't know if that means me , but my phone's on . We manifested that it is that's what my boyfriend said last night .
Speaker 3He said stop putting out the negative energy , manifest it out .
Speaker 1We're going to get into that in a minute , but I thought we'd kick things off with just a rapid fire , just so people can get to know you a little bit better , that's okay .
Speaker 2Okay , so we're going to run out . You ready for this ? Vanessa , you want to kick it ?
Speaker 1off ? Sure Okay , and you can't .
Speaker 3Before you the first question you can't Not your own Favorite guilty pleasure . Oh oh , I was like , not my own , like recently , oh God , a show or movie ? I am embarrassed Well .
Speaker 2I'm not . Yes , we want that .
Speaker 3I just watched the show CSEE with Jason Momoa on Apple TV and I was like is this going to be like ridiculous ? I loved it , I like , loved it and I don like is this going to be ridiculous ? I loved it I loved it and I don't . Well , I won't say too much , but I really loved it and it got canceled .
Speaker 1It did . Okay , I saw it advertised when it first came out .
Speaker 3I never got around to it . I'm like do more . Yeah , I loved it .
Speaker 1Okay , good , Okay next one Go-to karaoke song Faith , George Michael or the thong song that only gets people going .
Speaker 3Don't do ignition by . It's a horrible karaoke song . I tried one time .
Speaker 1I want to see that maybe later today we'll get you to do that next question weirdest fan interaction . I want to see that in real time . Maybe later today We'll get you to do that . That's the episode . Patreon that would cost you .
Speaker 2Okay , next question Weirdest fan interaction Cringe funny .
Speaker 3Well , you know what ? When I was on a soap opera for four years back , in the day like one of my first jobs . Those fans they don't separate Like they can't separate that you are playing a character . Any interaction I'd have in new york on the subway they'd be like yo , you're fish , you're on my show , don't do that to leila and I'd be like I . I didn't . I didn't do that to leila .
Speaker 2It's not I don't know , I have no idea , but yeah people will ask advice like about like the law because I played a cop .
Speaker 3I'm like sweetie the only thing I know about the law is getting arrested .
Speaker 1I DM you like hey , I just got pulled over for a ticket . Like how can I get out of this ?
Speaker 3I did get a piece of fan mail once asking for feed pictures . No , and I didn't send .
Speaker 1But like now people they offer a high dollar for that . I mean , I consider it . Sometimes I do too , but then I look at my feet , I would make nothing . You'd make no money . My feet are not great , okay , last thing , this is a dumb one , let's move on .
Speaker 3Celebrity crush growing up . Well , vocally , because I was in the closet , I would say , like Sandra Bullock , I was a big Helen Hunt , meg Ryan fan .
Speaker 1But the people that I loved growing up was a young Stanley Tucci , Rick .
Speaker 3Moranis .
Speaker 2Giovanni Ribisi Wow .
Speaker 3Which they're all very short and I think that is .
Speaker 1Was Larry David on that list .
Speaker 3I'm kidding , he's actually one of my celebrity crushes . I love me a Larry David , I know .
Speaker 1If you're listening , Larry .
Speaker 2We'll bring you on the show .
Speaker 1Thank , you Come . She're listening , larry , we'll bring you on the show . Thank you , come , she loves you .
Speaker 2Larry , in both ways , just kidding . Okay , you're All right , we're going to get back on track , back on track . We're five minutes into the show . Okay , your go-to comfort food .
Speaker 3Specifically . I mean my favorite food is soup , which is a crazy . She makes a great soup a crazy I love . I want to open up a soup place called you make me want a soup soup we'll be your first customers . Yes , oh , trust me well in la . It's like people are , like we don't want that , but then in the summer it could be . You make me want a scoop .
Speaker 3And then you have an ice cream spinoff , but I don't know how to make ice cream , oh , but yeah , I would say a bowl of soup , probably French and green .
Speaker 1Okay , okay , Cute . What's your most used emoji when you're texting your friends ? The one that it's like parents who said the laughing crying emoji . When you say my dog just died , they're like oh , this is crying because there's tears coming out . They're like dying laughing .
Speaker 3Turning into the puddle one . What's that ? I use that one all the time . I don't really have the one that's like .
Speaker 1Someone's like what did you do last night ? I'm like puddle , like a little embarrassed .
Speaker 3Okay , that's I think it's embarrassed . Okay , yeah , I think it's embarrassed .
Speaker 2But I also sometimes I'm not gonna lie I do send it when it's like , oh man , like you just can't take it anymore .
Speaker 3You're like melting in the situation there's some specific ones that like you really need like that they don't have .
Speaker 2I don't know what they are , but no , they there are . There are also . I don't know acronyms but like yeah , or like people will say them and I'll have to Google them .
Speaker 3I do that a lot .
Speaker 2Immediately . Well , I can actually admit that G-R-W-N which is or no ?
Speaker 3N , which is get ready with me . Wow , I was like great , really I used to think it was grown woman .
Speaker 1Oh , wow , like grown woman that was a journey to get to that .
Speaker 3Yeah , it was not it well , I won't say what I thought SMH was what was that ?
Speaker 1I think I can get exactly what you meant horrible horrible okay , hold up , okay . Next , what was the first concert you ever ?
Speaker 3sorry , I skipped what's the first concert you ever attended the first three concerts I ever attended were the same and it was oh , I'm gonna age myself it was the monkeys okay , I'm not like a huge concert person , but I will say the last concert I went to was Avril Levine okay , when was that she's ?
Speaker 1your last year right she's my number one really , I love her so much I went to a wedding with her one . I know Josh is like oh yeah , I was like sitting like waiting to order our burgers at this food truck and I was trying to act so cool , like your name is what is it , avril Like trying to act like . Oh , I'm so cool , avril .
Speaker 3Oh , I was in Vegas with we were like with the same group and doing shots and Perez Hilton had just posted something really like dragging her and saying people hate her music . And we were so drunk and I went out to her I was like hey'm like that didn't come out right . I know everybody hates your music .
Speaker 1And that one time you have that conversation with somebody you admire . That's how it turns out , of course , of course , two more .
Speaker 2Okay , next one Dream vacation spots that you haven't been to Italy .
Speaker 3Or no , I'm going to say Holland , the Tula Fields , oh yeah , that's what heaven looks like when I die . That's what I want to like . I want to live there , disappear , put me in the mountains , get me out of here . Yes . Get me out of here . Put me in the mountains .
Speaker 1And then one final one what is an embarrassing onset moment that maybe you've had in your career ?
Rapid-Fire Questions
Speaker 3Maybe you never had one because you're very put together and cool and collected all the time , right ? Um , personally , well , it was embarrassing for me because it was kind of secondhand embarrassment I was doing a thing with somebody . Oh , I don't know how to make this not obvious , but I will say I was I oh well , here it is . We were interacting in a scene . It wasn't even a sexual thing , but he was in underwear and I was . There was a struggle happening and he got okay , excited , yes , and it was like we had to cut .
Speaker 3It was like very . I got more embarrassed than he did . He was like fine with it and I was just like me was that a recent role ? No .
Speaker 1Okay , I was trying to piece it together .
Speaker 2We're going to let our audiences piece that one together , but in turn .
Speaker 3I was kind of like this is so hot If there wasn't 150 people here .
Speaker 1Very flattering though . Well , I wanted everyone who doesn't know you to kind of get a little bit of a sense of of your personality and the things you like and you dislike . But you have had especially the last couple of years for you have been probably like an insane rollercoaster with your career . You've been in the industry for a long time .
Speaker 3Yeah .
Speaker 1But going back to the very beginning , you know , I know acting , it kind of runs in your family a little bit , but what drew you to it ? Like what was the beginning ?
Speaker 3yeah , it's um , I , I tell you , if , uh , if , there was youtube or instagram back when , back in my day growing up , my family probably would have been some sort of partridge family , like ready bunch von traps , whatever we all got like , we were all super into it . My , my brother and I kind of fell into it , more so because my older sister was doing it and my mother was like it was easier to carpool everyone to the same activity after school . So we kind of fell into it more so because my older sister was doing it and my mother was like it was easier to carpool everyone to the same activity after school . So we kind of just like fell into it and then and then , like you , become very popular with girls , which I thought was a good thing when you're a boy who can sing , and that was like .
Speaker 3I was like oh , I like this . And then , when I was applying to college , I didn't have the best grades in high school because I didn't believe in homework so I did well on tests , horrible homework , so I wanted to get into a good school and I was like I'll audition no boys are singing . And so I got into a school . I guess that I did deserve . But yeah , and then it just kind of , you know , it became a thing that I fell in love with . And here we are and now it's like torture .
Speaker 1It's like all that whole life , it's just hard the rejection is so well . Yeah , we wanted to definitely get into the nose story absolutely the nose , the nose .
Speaker 2Everyone always asks me too . It's like how do you not hear seven nose in a row and keep going and it's hard , it's seven in a row , you know ? Just to be specific , yeah yeah , and that is a small streak . Okay , usually there's a lot more , but let's just give it a number , like in a row there's so many no's in a row and you have to remember that , like this isn't necessarily because of my talent , it's just .
Speaker 3It is what it is , it's the , it's the part of the game yeah , it's a part of the game and the problem with it is is like sometimes it's like you know it's casting directors . A lot of the time it's sort of like hey , did we say to my manager or agent , did we get any like feedback ? Did they say anything ? What's happening with that ? Uh , no , no feedback . It's like they don't have time for feedback , but like it really would take two seconds if you thought somebody did well , to be like he did great . It's just not something different . I can't tell you how many times I've lost things out , lost parts up in the final two for things , and it's literally has nothing to do . A lot of the time now it doesn't have anything to do with talent , it comes down to a look , a look , a social media following now .
Speaker 1And it's just Maya Hawke .
Speaker 3Ethan Hawke's daughter .
Speaker 1It was coming up and I was like well , yeah , that's fine .
Speaker 3But yeah , it's sad , it doesn't talent people get so discouraged . I know so many people that I went to school with and actor friends that are just not pursuing it anymore because it's hard to maintain to if you're not . You know , getting one job a year sometimes can sustain you for the year .
Speaker 3But like a lot of the time , it's just not enough and then , when you're doing like the waiting tables , jobs and stuff , like the bartending which I've done plenty of , which is a nightmare , it's just you start to feel like you're not worth anything and it's like when you know you're good and it's not working out , there's nothing you can do . It's such a game and you see the same people getting things and all of a sudden , there's no rhyme or reason to it .
Speaker 1It's hard to understand .
Speaker 3Well , it's like one day you can . And what actually is very encouraging is when you see older actors and actresses . All of a sudden you're like where has this person been ? Like they're great , they've had like small jobs forever . And then , finally , are you watching Paradise ?
Speaker 1I loved it . Jan Nicholson who plays .
Speaker 3Sinatra . I know she's like worked for forever , but when Mare of Easttown she was on that I was like I never . I was like I never . I was like she is in fucking credible .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 3And it's just like you see these people and it's like you think it's kind of encouraging , though , to see that .
Speaker 1OK , it may take a lot longer than I had in my plan , but you're seeing these .
Speaker 3Absolutely . Yeah Well , you always . There's all these articles . It's like you know , harrison Ford didn't get his first job till he's 40 .
Speaker 1Oprah Right .
Speaker 3Harrison Ford didn't get his first job until he was 40 . Oprah did , and they'll say that and it's like that's fine . It's just harder now , especially because there's so many people .
Speaker 1I think it's harder now to make it versus back then .
Speaker 3Yeah , in 2000 , you were going up for a role against 20 , 30 , 40 people Yep . Now I'll get an audition for one line on something to play a bellhop and they'll bring in 200 people .
Speaker 3Now I'll get an audition for like one line on something like to play like a bell hop and they'll bring in 200 people . And especially now where it's not . You're going into a casting room now with self-tapes . Anyone can do it anywhere Over the pandemic . When self-tapes happened , I was screwed . I didn't have like a home setup . I didn't have . I don't have actor friends , cause I would never be friends with an actor these people that were able to live in their apartments with their roommates and spend four days getting the perfect take , when I would have to pay for a half hour slot and do an audition with somebody I didn't know .
Speaker 2Right . So it's just like it's a lot and it's better for me personally . I know it's a little bit more nerve wracking maybe to get into a room with you know , like the casting director and someone handling the camera and all that stuff , but at the end of the day I've realized as an actor like I enjoy feeling that human connection in the room .
Speaker 1Yeah , way easier . Even having a reader doesn't like that . Call your friend to come over or call I have my friend on like speakerphone . Reading from like this is like terrible 100% .
Speaker 3It's just not the same manager , like when the pandemic was happening in self tapes he's like . He said flat out I'm like you didn't have to say that to me . He was like this is gonna really affect you because you win people over in a room and I was like thanks , okay , now I'm going to do this with even more confidence because my personality .
Speaker 3But now I have steve , I have a boyfriend that does it for me . He what a saint I'll be watching takes back . I'm like I said that I treated him like that babe , I love you .
Speaker 2I'm sorry we love the supportive significant others that I was in Tokyo and I had to do a self tape and I'm like , babe , I need you to hold this right here .
Speaker 3Okay , exactly talk to me , but don't flip it this . I need you to hold this right here , okay .
Speaker 2Exactly . Talk to me , but don't , don't , don't flip it this way . I need you to hold it a little bit like this Okay so . I can still see it .
Speaker 3Oh , for sure .
Speaker 1Well , he's getting used to it now .
Speaker 3Now he has like notes . Now he like is acting . I'm just like you know , when you have friends or people that don't know you , they're just like oh , you can't get a job , you can't book anything . Steve like he sees it , he's like I see the struggle , what you go through , the work you put into things and you don't see a dime for , like the work that you put in for an audition to self-tape .
Speaker 2And it only just happened where they have to give you 72 hours notice now and they still don't .
Speaker 3They still don't and they're like sorry , we know it's fast and it's like okay , you know , you know , you said sorry . And it's like , if you say , well , no , I'm gonna do the 72 hours , Somebody else will tape it before you and they'll choose them .
Speaker 2Yeah , but then they can hold you for , like you know , five days and they're like you're only going to work one of those days , but you have to hold all five . And then sometimes you're like , okay , great , and then you get a message saying you've been released .
Speaker 3I did a job where it was going to be one day of work and they asked me for conflicts between after Thanksgiving to May of this year and they were like can we put him on hold for those months , for one day ? They're like it's probably going to be December and we were like granted , I don't have anything else coming in , so
The Path to Acting
Speaker 3yes , but crazy , yeah .
Speaker 1Well , like I said , you had a really awesome like year or so with , obviously , barbie . When did you feel like again , your career has gone back for many , many years ?
Speaker 3that you felt like oh shit , okay , I'm making it like I'm , I'm catching my stride . Was it Barbie or was even before that ? Um , you know , I , I it's just , it's like I poor me . I feel weird saying this , but like you still , I still don't necessarily like feel it . I feel like I am lucky that I am able to pay the bills with this job . Like I don't know what is considered making it , but I think that is what I consider making it in order to like pay the bills um , but barbie was like .
Speaker 3Barbie was the most insane case of imposter syndrome like I've ever felt , like really near mental breakdowns , like almost every day flying to london to do it . I was just the whole plane ride . I was like I am going to arrive and get fired on this mob . They're gonna be to be like , oh , you know , that's , that's not it Every day . There were days we'd be sitting in the cast chairs and because everybody that was in that was , like , you know , successful , had their own shows , had things coming up and all this stuff . And I'm sitting there , we're going around one day like , oh , what does everyone have happening after this ? And people I don't know .
Speaker 3I was like , oh , just you know , I guess I hope this never ends , yeah , but yeah , being on that being on that set , and you know the days that the imposter syndrome I could keep it a day . It was just like I can't believe how lucky I am .
Speaker 1Did you get , when you got the call that you got the role , did you ?
Speaker 3do you think you were being ?
Speaker 2punked at first , or I have not cried that hard in a long time , oh , a long time well , because I had auditioned for it .
Speaker 3It was like super bowl sunday 2022 yes and I our super bowl weekend and on friday , again , not 72 hours notice I got the barbie audition and an audition for this apple tv pilot that I was like I'm not going to get Barbie , like I'm not , I'll focus on that , but they were both through Sunday . I'm not going to get Barbie , I'll focus on the pilot Cause like .
Speaker 3I can do this part . So we got up Sunday morning , steve , I was having people over at the Superbowl . We taped both auditions that morning , submitted them Heard , heard nothing . A month later I got a call in the morning that was like Greta wants to know if you're available for a meeting in like an hour . I was like Greta , who I was like for what ? They were ? Like Barbie . I was like are you kidding ? Yeah , and I sat down with her and it just was like I recorded .
Speaker 1How was she Like how ?
Speaker 3She's , she's incredible and she incredible and she is like a super like musical theater nerd . So like our meeting , I think that has to be like what you know . It tipped it my way we were just talking about musicals and dancing and she's like , okay , this guy is . She wanted barbie to be like a musical theater summer camp , yeah and that's exactly what it felt like oh , oh , it was I . Yeah , I was just like . All my life I've been training for this Singing , dancing , being gay .
Speaker 1Like here we are , let's do this .
Speaker 2Let's do this . I love it . Who are some of your ?
Speaker 1favorite co-stars , I guess , to work with , or did you have like pre-existing friendships with anybody ?
Speaker 3I didn't know .
Speaker 1I didn't know anybody , All right you don't have any friends that are actors , right , my choice .
Speaker 3And if you are my friend and you're an actor , you're the only one I mean . Everybody was so great . We were all so close . Shooty and I got super close because our trailers are right next to each other . Ariana Greenblatt she's the younger , she is one of my favorite people on the planet .
Speaker 2She's so good you can tell . You can tell that it was like a really close knit fun family like orientated set the .
Speaker 3Barbies had like a little sleepover thing , but they invited Shooty and I because , I don't know . We're the gay cans . Yeah , of course , but we had game nights where I saw that America Ferrara was my match in terms of rules and game nights she was as annoying and crazy as I am . I love it but yeah , we went to the party bus went to Magic Mike . We had a good time .
Speaker 1Yeah , and I think that's important too , I'm sure on set with Cass , creating those actual friendships and bonds outside of yeah .
Speaker 3I got there two weeks before we even started filming , because Greta wanted all the Kens to work out together and play games Chemistry doesn't lie .
Speaker 2That's really important . That's really cool that she had that for you guys .
Speaker 3She's a beast . She's incredible .
Speaker 1Were you stereotypical , ken , was that your ?
Speaker 3That's what somebody said .
Speaker 1I was like really .
Speaker 2There's something stereotypical about you .
Speaker 3We were going to be like what is they all tried to like , uh , figure that out . I don't think there was , like ever , a specific thing . It was just everyone .
Speaker 2If you could choose one , yeah yeah , what would you be like ? Scott , you're , you're ken you're . You're scott , ken oh god , I don't know . See , I'm not really a beach guy okay , I don't know , I hate it doesn't matter . Yeah , I hate you , don't ? You don't have to be terrified of the ocean . I hate sand .
Speaker 3I'm terrified of the ocean , I'm allergic to shellfish it doesn't want me it doesn't want me , god , if I could be a Ken . Is there like a ?
Speaker 1a WeHo Ken oh , rollerblader Ken probably for sure , can you rollerblade , I do , rollerblade , you do rollerblade .
Speaker 3I was rollerblading when I got the call to meet with Greta and I was like I can't because I'm rollerblading . And I told her that she's like . I just decided to put rollerblading in the movie . I was like , oh please , all my friends make fun of me you're the only friend I think I have .
Speaker 1I'm the only person in West Hollywood we need to go rollerblading .
Speaker 3I'm the only person in West Hollywood that rollerblades my friends will be like just saw you , you idiot oh , you're rollerblading down like sunset oh , I'll go on this trip , I'm all here .
Speaker 1Okay , we're going to do rollerblading Me and Steve .
Speaker 3I got him to sort of get into it . We would go to the Pacific Coast Highway .
Speaker 1My brother and I grew up rollerblading . We absolutely love it . That's so funny .
Speaker 2I love it so much . Okay , so we need to have a rollerblading date . We have our Heelys .
Speaker 3Well , we just got , don't either .
Speaker 2We'll see . We'll have to find out .
Speaker 3But rollerblades , like roller skates , are impossible to me . I put them on , I'm like that's easier they don't work , I don't get it .
Speaker 2Roller skates are . I do both , so I can say roller skates are a little bit harder than rollerblades .
Speaker 1Listen , as far as the casting director is concerned , I do both yes , same are you kidding me , I do it all um , well , I want to talk about your most recent project , which is running point . I binged it in a day and a half . It was so good and I really like . I mean this probably isn't a great quality of mine , but I'm such a harsh critic with any of like those shows that come out like that me too I was hooked from the very beginning , so tell us about how you got into it .
Speaker 1We love that I told everybody that I know to go watch it Same . What was ?
Speaker 3it . I was saying like I can be such a hater Like I can , especially when people like love something , I'll be like I refuse to watch it , I will hate it . I don't find anything funny , like I'm such a harsh critic , and so I was like I just hope I don't need to find it funny , like cause I didn't read all the scripts , I was only in like five of the 10 . I was like I don't care if I don't find it funny , I just want to be able to look at it and be like I know that people will find it funny yeah .
Speaker 3And we went to the premiere and saw the first two episodes
Surviving Hollywood Rejection
Speaker 3and we left and I was like it's funny .
Speaker 1It's funny it , I think , in gold it's funny , it's so good , it's so good .
Speaker 3Oh it's so good . Yeah , and I , yeah , I loved it . We binged it in . Steve stayed home from work on that Thursday .
Speaker 2I was like .
Speaker 3I need to see what I look like .
Speaker 2Oh yeah , no , we , I let you . I watched it literally in a day and a half . It was like and so well cast , so well cast First of all Justin Theroux .
Speaker 3I didn't know he could do that .
Speaker 1He's hilarious I love him .
Speaker 3He's so funny .
Speaker 1Hilarious , so funny .
Speaker 3Well , that's the other thing is like we were watching . Steve's mother is one of the greatest women alive . She's the sweetest , most incredible human . And I was like she you know she doesn't really like swearing and I was like she can't watch this . And she was watching like one episode at a time really like .
Speaker 1Just we love it so much .
Speaker 3I'm like they say the f word every other word .
Speaker 1Oh , it's so good . How did you feel like it compares like your other roles ? And one thing I've talked to her earlier which I love is just like as as a gay man . In hollywood you've gotten to play mostly like right like roles being a gay man well , I mean , that's something like they .
Speaker 3I'm only really getting called in for gay roles , which is a bummer , um that's great for the community too , though .
Speaker 1Well it is , but then all the best gay roles are going as great guys yeah and they're winning oscars , because how brave um , oh god , this is gonna get me in trouble . Wait that , no , but it's really .
Speaker 3I think it's a real , it's a really important conversation to have in yeah , well , it's like , it's the kind of thing like it's like let uh , gay men play gay roles and they're like well then , only straight people should play straight roles . It's like that's not it yeah that's not it at all .
Speaker 3there's always been room for straight people . Yep , there's always been room , and , like you put one in a storyline and and so long it hasn't really ever been . We're telling this we want a gay man for a gay role , because it's really about being a gay man and what it's like . It's sort of like yeah , you're the gay man , you're the assistant , you're the , you're the best friend you are . We're going to give you some funny lines and and so it's kind of nice to sort of see this , especially see like Drew Tarver's character , sandy . It's just sort of he's not sitting there being like girl , you better put on that necklace .
Speaker 3Right , so I don't know it's nice and I don't know it's very strange when it comes to that conversation . It's a very hard conversation to have because I go , I go back and forth , but you let the people tell their own stories for now and until there's six gay men in a series , in an episode , then a straight guy can play it . But , that's why we're saying let us play our roles and tell our stories .
Speaker 1If you're going to put us in things it's in .
Speaker 3You know there's all this . They really want things to be diverse and inclusive , but you know , when it's just you're just casting somebody because of the color of their skin and not because it has anything to do with the role , that also doesn't work for me ?
Speaker 2no , right , it doesn't work for me . It's other stories , right , exactly , so exactly , and that's important . I mean what , um , are some like funny moments that you can like give us from behind the scenes of running for those who maybe who haven't watched it too , like just overall yeah what people should expect , why they should watch it and maybe like some little things that maybe they wouldn't know .
Speaker 3I mean I I not necessarily a funny thing , but hello , I got to spend a whole day sitting behind macaulay culkin yeah I mean , yeah , how was that was your first conversation ?
Speaker 2well , I just didn't , was it ? I know people hate all your movies .
Speaker 3I just didn't , but I love him . It's like listen , I'm a tough judge , I know people love it , I don't . No , it was just , I didn't even realize it at first . I remember seeing him being like is that my gollygoggin ? Yeah .
Speaker 1That's a gollygog . Didn't realize . Yeah , I didn't realize that until this year , I know . And then she is . She's crazy watching her career amazing yeah , she's great .
Speaker 3Um well , I've known kate for like for a while . Okay , I've been to some epic game . She has , uh , some really crazy game nights I could imagine yeah , I uh , I we like with big groups and she hadn't had one for a while and just had one I think like two years ago , and she texted me and I was like oh , I thought I wasn't getting the invite anymore .
Speaker 3And she's like I haven't had one since last night and I'm like , okay , great good , I'll like take back all the bad things I said about you , but yeah , it's like you're sitting there in a room and I'm like these are all a lot of celebrities and everything and I'm like I don't give a shit If I think you're Mavia , you're out yeah .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 3You don't know me in a game you will die .
Speaker 2No , yeah , okay , kate Hudson , let's talk about working with her . She is just like the queen .
Speaker 3She's just like yeah , and she's like it's sort of like she was back in the day . She was like queen of the rom-com .
Speaker 2Like how to Lose a .
Speaker 3Guy in 10 Days is like a perfect movie and like this she . First of all it's in the genetics , because Goldie . Hawn . I grew up . What a star . And then , Kate , it's just sort of like people will give people shit for like the nepo baby stuff she's proven herself . But if you have , the chops to back it up exactly . Doesn't matter who her parents were , because she would have got the part anyway .
Speaker 2Yeah anyway , she's so good , she's so good , and she does everything .
Speaker 3She's doing music . Is she doing music now ? We all as a cast went to like her like performance , her concert and she's promoting it . And I all as a cast went to like her like performance , her concert and she's promoting it and I'm like and you got kids like I literally can barely wake up yeah , what about mindy ?
Speaker 3mindy's great . I didn't see her that much because she she would like come in and out , but like there was at kate's concert , I just remember like she came walking in and I hadn't met her yet . It was like towards the earlier side of the shoot and she just came walking in and I hadn't met her yet . It was towards the earlier side of the shoot and she just came walking in and saw me . She was like oh , I was just watching the dailies , You're so good .
Speaker 2I was like okay , oh , that's so good , I love that . Okay , many kids . We love when people give the credit when it's there you do auditions and they don't give you any positive feedback .
Speaker 1It's like the amount that that does for just your .
Speaker 3You know your overall confidence everyone in this industry has imposter syndrome for sure . So exactly , and then the more like someone like steve , like a boyfriend or a seat of the other says it to you , you're like I am bad , yeah like you tell me I'm good , I'm like , that means I'm horrible , exactly . I don't believe you .
Speaker 2Yes , it is a very strange . Like yeah , like we said , like imposter syndrome imposter syndrome I feel like really does happen in everybody , especially in this creative field . It's it's hard because your create , your creativity is your own authenticity , so sometimes that doesn't resonate with other people and you feel like your authenticity isn't authentic enough or you have to mold into something else totally . Totally , which is just like ugh , no , f , fuck , that Can we say can we say customers on here ?
Speaker 1It's not for the faint of heart , fuck that Okay . Well then , mindy , I know she recently just got her star on . She did and then it wasn't the same day or same weekend that you got renewed for season two .
Speaker 3Yeah , were you like had to call yourself about it . I was expecting Running Point to do well and then it just kept doing well . The most shocking thing was getting messages or texts from close people in my life being like , oh my god , what a surprise . Just saw you show up at Running Point . I'm like am I not showing up on Instagram ?
Speaker 2I've told you guys I only post every four months With that algorithm , though you're probably not showing up on Instagram . I've told you guys Well , I only post every like four months With that algorithm , though you're probably not showing up on there . Not at all , doesn't make any sense .
Speaker 3But then , like when it's like stayed at number one and it kept like doing so well , I was like this is crazy and the reviews were good . Some of the early reviews I was worried about that came out right at midnight when it released like the top ones . I was like reading them reviews by like top women critics . I was like I hate on this this is like a woman-led
Speaker 3like woman like come on support . And uh , I was worried that that was going to catch fire and it just didn't yeah , it's just people I love people couldn't hate it , even if they , like you , don't know someone else .
Speaker 1If you want to talk about nepo babies , who we're not saying he's a nepo baby , but Tom .
Speaker 2Hanks was on the show . Chet Hanks , how is he ? His character was one of my favorites . He killed it . I'll tell you this so funny .
Speaker 3Well , if I searched Chet Hanks right now in my messages more than probably six seven , eight , my sister like people just being like hey , how's Chet Hanks ? I Like people just being like hey , how's Chad Hanks ?
Speaker 1I'm like why , why , why do you want to know ?
Speaker 3I just I don't know Is he , he's hot right , I was like everybody is so into it . I'm like that is so funny .
Speaker 2Well , yeah , the people want to know . I mean hello , it's so funny .
Barbie and Imposter Syndrome
Speaker 2He was a great person to work with on set .
Speaker 3I never scenes with dogs .
Speaker 2Yeah , it's so funny . People don't realize that either . I know People don't realize like oh , you're in a show with somebody .
Speaker 3But you think I know that you're in the scenes with everybody . You may not see that at all , even like movies , like movies that shoot like separately never . We're never , never together like it's . Yeah , I know well overall . Congratulations on all your success and everyone , please go watch running . Yeah , I'm back for season two .
Speaker 1I'm so glad I mean gosh . Is it too like spoilers , spoiler coming up next . I'm so glad that you worked your relationship out on the show because I was like , no , I need scott again , and I feel I was so like moved by your performance , especially the scene , I think , at the game , when you started getting emotional it was so sweet . Drew is so sweet , so good , and I love him and close his um . Was it the other two ? Yeah ?
Speaker 1yeah , yeah , loved him and that too , he's , he's , he's so good what's in your mind , things you still want to accomplish in hollywood , like what kind of roles would you like to play , would you like ? I know you love horror movies . Would you love to do like a slasher ?
Speaker 3oh for sure for sure there was . Um years ago . There was a script that I read , this , this horror movie that I had got the offer for and , like it never got off the ground and I think about it all the time . When I say years ago , I mean like 20 years ago and it was supposed to be with , uh , ryan quanton .
Speaker 2Okay , do you know him I ?
Speaker 3don't .
Speaker 1Is he a horror guy ? Is he True ?
Speaker 3Blood .
Speaker 1I never saw True Blood Me neither , because everybody loved it .
Speaker 2Anyway , he's gorgeous Vampire Diaries . I can talk about it .
Speaker 3But it never happened . So that's a side tidbit . But roles I'd like to play it's not really not many . I am writing , I would love , I would love , love , love to just write and be a writer for a show and a series and never have to worry about what I look like .
Speaker 1Really . So if you could choose , you'd be back like writing and not being on camera , oh yeah , Okay .
Speaker 3Yeah , I mean I love it , it's just , it's the stress it puts I mean I have have . I mean I have issues , I'm a psychopath we all do , why do ?
Speaker 1you think we all live in freaking West Hollywood auditioning totally well .
Speaker 3And then the entertainment business is just also . It just breeds mental illness , it just breathes stories yeah , right , it's like .
Speaker 2I mean , I think I've been here for 18 years in los angeles and the amount of stories that I have that I could write about is insane , so maybe we should get together , we we would all we would all have crazy stories . What a show we would create exactly .
Speaker 3Well , it starts from , like you know , having to go to a costume fitting . I will spiral , I'll just be like I just hate this , like I just you just like you just constantly , and and then it's , you're just constantly picked apart everything and I'm kind of just like I would just love to be that you , you be the outline you're like the outline that you're filling . Everything I would love to be in in charge like a showrunner when we were doing .
Speaker 3Barbie , there were so many days . Ryan Gosling would be like he'd look at me and be like do you ever do you ever like produce or direct ? And I was like no , why he's like or stage manage or showrunner ? I was like why ?
Speaker 1Were you given that ?
Speaker 3like Bible . Well , I , just I am very like , even growing up , I'm a Virgo , I I am a perfectionist . I would you know , I'd go home and I would practice and I would know everything . And if somebody had a question , if nobody was ready to answer it , I'd be ready to answer it .
Speaker 3The day that we did the Ken Ballet , the I'm Just Ken . We had one day to do it and people didn't know the lyrics to the song . People didn't really know , they didn't learn the moves , and we were behind and Greta came out and she goes Scott , I need you to take over for a little bit and teach everyone the lyrics and the dance . And I was like this is my moment .
Speaker 3This is what my controlling psychosis is finally , and I did , and I , you know , I want to frame the text she sent me later that day , just being like yeah , I couldn't have done this day without you .
Speaker 1I was like what like a moment of finally , like that probably just shed us on that imposter syndrome , because you realize , oh , this is what .
Speaker 3Maybe I meant , yeah , well then I'm like should I maybe just go control something ? Yeah , it's like growing up doing plays . It's like somebody missed that scene change . I'd be like Stephanie .
Speaker 1Yeah , she missed it . Are you like a type that will like say as they're ?
Speaker 3saying them oh , I will know them if they fuck up , I'll know them , I will mouth them , I'll know everything . That's so great . Yeah , it's annoying . Try dating them .
Speaker 1Bless your husband's heart . Yeah , if you weren't an actor , what do you think you would ? I mean , I don't know if that's ever crossed your mind Homicide detective , I'm not to get away with murder so I can help .
Speaker 2Law and order . Svu detective Like that's what I would want to be .
Speaker 3That would be too tough . The second I got anything involving kids , I'd be like okay .
Speaker 2Yeah , I know , I just , oh , I love it , but yeah , any kind of forensic homicide , private detective , which it's not .
Speaker 3if I wasn't an actor , that's going to happen .
Speaker 1It could still happen , that could still happen .
Speaker 3I do it now .
Speaker 1I've hired a PI on some exes before , so I'll know to just call you .
Speaker 3Call me , you need to find something , my brother . People will text me . They'll be like oh , I don't know this . I'm like I got you Within a few minutes .
Speaker 1Oh , good to know , You're like , I will figure this out that right , there is going to be a future TV show , not like an actual scripted show . I also save everything Receipt .
Speaker 3I got receipts .
Speaker 1You'll come there with , like the papers . Well , listen , on this date . I never said that .
Speaker 3Yes you did .
Speaker 2I mean okay , so I know that growing up as being in a creative and like dance and acting and all these things , Like my cousins and I would Make home videos all the time Is that something that you and your siblings did growing up ? Oh , yeah .
Speaker 1Oh , we need the tapes . Talk about videos .
Speaker 3I think Chris has them locked in a vault somewhere .
Speaker 2Okay , chris , we need those videos now , me and my siblings , we would put on plays in the basement all the time .
Speaker 3We did every Disney movie . We did everything . We did a lotney movie . We did everything , we did a lot . Yeah , and my dad had a camcorder .
Speaker 2So that's great . That's what we did too during summer , like summer vacation , like we . We filmed a whole movie . It was called the klutz I had . I had like crispies right here because my lips were cracking , but it didn't matter , right , because you're just like in the camera , like all these things that you're . You look , look back , you're like , oh okay .
Speaker 3That's what I say , I think . I think God every day that I didn't have iPhone or Instagram in high school and college Same .
Speaker 1I mean , we're the last generation , right , the last generation .
Speaker 3That's what it was like before and after College would have been so bad .
Speaker 1So bad . I mean the receipts people would have of me in college . I'm glad those don't exist .
Speaker 3That's why you see kids post things today . I'm like who isn't warning them ?
Speaker 2I know I mean the receipts that my friends have from Facebook .
Speaker 1It's like I deleted my Facebook and all that , all those Facebook time hops that remind you how much of a little shit you were , and the most embarrassing status updates that we would , leo and I we only send each other old Facebook statuses and 2008 , 2009 , something was going on with us .
Speaker 2It's literally me on a toilet .
Speaker 3Every other day .
Speaker 2It's me on a toilet in Ladoo Like stop , oh , those like the little peace sign , that's not really a peace sign . It's like I don't know what this is , but my mom was like you're going to be embarrassed one day . And now I do look back and I'm like you're right , mom , like oh you should .
Speaker 3What I used to wear . I loved a loose tie .
Speaker 1No yo you should see some of these pictures . They're crazy . Yeah , do you have any of those that you could send us ? Yeah , we're gonna need to see those . Oh , yeah , like the big belt buckles right here , like what were they ?
Speaker 3like this is my rib cage , not my arm bands . This was a sweat arm bands right here in the middle of my forearm .
Speaker 2I thought you were about to go play in the NBA or something , absolutely All the time .
Speaker 1We'll pull some of those on our social media , don't you worry you mentioned your brother , chris Chris Evans , for those who don't know who we're talking about , captain .
Speaker 3America . There's not another Chris Evans no .
Speaker 1Another , chris Evans . He I know we have a mutual friend , josh , who just talks about . Y'all have such a good relationship . How has he been with watching your success and his support ?
Speaker 3He's great when I got Barbie . He's so supportive , he's incredibly supportive and we are supportive of each other . This is one of my favorite things . I mean not favorite . Well , you'll hear when he's like he'll be shooting something . And if he's having like a bad day or like an imposter syndrome day or feeling like he's not doing whatever , I will get the text and it'll just be like man , I am having , I am horrible , whatever . And I'm like I love the fact that I am the support system because I will gas him up , because I'm not lying , yeah , like I just hate when he thinks that he's not worth it , like because I think he's super talented and there's a hey shout out to a movie .
Speaker 3There's a movie called Puncture that he did from like years ago , that he is so fucking good at we're gonna go watch that .
Speaker 1People need to see it .
Speaker 3We will go watch that , yeah and I just remember watching it , being like you should have every award , that's ever existed . He's so good um , but I love him .
Speaker 1He's super supportive , he's , he's , you know , my best friend oh , he's my friend we always say it's like you're my first friend yeah , and that's so important because I'm sure there's a lot of siblings in hollywood and I feel like you have seen , sometimes like that divide in that competition yeah , there's um .
Speaker 3See , I think we we also lucked out the fact that I'm gay .
Speaker 1Y'all didn't ever have to fight for the same ladies . He'll always say thank God , you're gay , we don't have to do that .
Speaker 3And then he'll be like man . If I was gay , I would kill it in the gay world and I'm like you , aren't gay and you're already killing it in the gay world , aren't you ? We're like the same height Okay , okay .
Speaker 2Or would you say you're the cuter one ?
Speaker 3I don't know he's got abs , I've got a tan . Okay , we're on equal playing field Balance .
Speaker 1Well listen , we do only have about 15 minutes left . I thought we'd play a little fun drinking game .
Speaker 3Great , I've already been drinking , you've already been drinking .
Speaker 1It's called sip or spill . So I'm going to ask you some questions and it's kind of self-explanatory . If you don't want to answer the question , you just admit your guilt and you drink . I am so excited for this .
Speaker 2I'm scared Should we sip with him too , we can sip Solidarity . Vanessa , do you want to kick
Inside Running Point
Speaker 2it off ? Yes , okay , worst date you've ever been on . You know it . Actually , I'm going to name names . No , you know it . Actually , I'm going to name names , okay please do Wait .
Speaker 3no , I'm not Actually . Yes , I am . I went on a date with Peter Thiel one of the original investors of Facebook . Oh yeah .
Speaker 1Like the rich .
Speaker 3Republican , he's gay , and we went to like this insane , like fancy restaurant for lunch , uh-huh , and the only thing on the menu that I recognized that I could order was like the pheasant and like he was awful . Oh , that's second worst name .
Speaker 1Oh , you can continue .
Speaker 2What's the first ?
Speaker 1Oh , it's another name drop .
Speaker 3Actually no , this one's still Okay .
Speaker 1I can't do it yet , okay , okay .
Speaker 3I'll tell you after , though . Next , because it was horrible .
Speaker 2Okay , I love how he's sipping , anyway , I cried on the way home from the date have you ever had an on-set crush ? Or like starstruck .
Speaker 1Oh , I think it was just that . Oh , on-set crush .
Speaker 3Okay , I mean yeah .
Speaker 1I mean , are you allowed to say a name or anything ?
Speaker 3Well , I mean .
Speaker 1Or are you sipping .
Speaker 3See , I don't think this is going to be like a good answer for you , but I like had a super crush on Martin Sheen .
Speaker 1Okay , wow , grace and Frankie , yeah .
Speaker 3He is just the most person like the sweetest .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 3I actually sent a picture of me and Martin Sheen to one of my cousins once and she showed her daughter and she goes oh , is that Scott's two boyfriends ?
Speaker 1And I was like what is she doing ? Out here , what is this ? That's great , great .
Speaker 2Okay , that's a good one . Okay , next one what is the most ridiculous Hollywood rumor about yourself that you've heard and you're like wait . What ?
Speaker 3That my net worth is $3.2 million . Don't you love those net ?
Speaker 1worth things . I'm so rich on the internet . I googled it and I'm like where Show where ?
Speaker 3Show me the money , but even if I had not spent a dime and kept every penny from every job I've had , it wouldn't be that my friend Jimmy always says he's like if you are worth 3.2 million , this is the longest con we've ever seen , I never pick up a tab and we go out every day again . No , I do , but it's like my last $5 .
Speaker 13.2 . Where have ? No , I do , but it's like my last $5 . 3.2 .
Speaker 3Have you ever hooked up with a fan ? Well , they're going to know , because I only have one fan .
Speaker 1No , yes , okay , wow Okay , I wish we could have more , but I didn't know until the morning After . That's happened to me and that's awkward as hell .
Speaker 3It's the worst thing ever , because they said something like . I don't even remember what they said , but it was sort of just like oh , by the way , I saw you on he's like I loved you on that and started like naming my resume .
Speaker 1It's like nauseating a little bit and I was like you're gonna go tell everybody and he may have had photos on his phone of you sleeping .
Speaker 3You know , like you never know which , honestly I mean the situation has been reversed .
Speaker 2I'm supposed to be , the one that I'm a fan of and told everybody oh , my God , okay , name a co-star you wouldn't work with again . What's the wildest thing you've done at an industry party ?
Speaker 1I feel like you can't I would love for you to say it .
Speaker 3I know exactly what it is , but I can't .
Speaker 1We're going to lunch after this . I can't wait to hear .
Speaker 3I showed a picture of my private part to a very A-list Oscar-winning actress .
Speaker 1That is incredible .
Speaker 3And she loved it and we have done it all , of course she did .
Speaker 2Of course she did .
Speaker 3But that's not the wildest thing . I'm absolutely telling you the thing .
Speaker 2Oh yeah , I don't even know if we could say the wildest thing on air that we've done ?
Speaker 1Oh , absolutely not . Now , what's the most embarrassing thing you've ever done when you were drunk , I mean , I can't even remember half the things . Probably that's why blackouts exist , so you don't have to remember the things .
Speaker 3I mean the first thing that comes to mind is I went when I went to the greatest Super Bowl that ever existed , the Patriots in Houston . I was there , my friend Bo lived in Houston , and I went out with him and a couple of his friends Like we were on like a group chat and I was home in my hotel room . It was like 2.30 in the morning and I texted one of them and like two minutes later he hadn't responded . So I texted the other one and I copy-pasted and they the next day sent it to their group chat .
Speaker 1No , no , oh shit , okay , yeah , literal copy paste within minutes and then beau texted me the next day .
Speaker 3He was like yo send me a screenshot . I was like so I guess I should just kill myself , like this is you will never see me again oh my god , oh my gosh .
Speaker 2Okay , what's ? Let's go . What's the most annoying celebrity you've ever met ?
Speaker 1I'm choosing the ones that are like I know he's going to sip on this question right here . Scott , thank you , I'm so glad we did this .
Speaker 2Thank you so much .
Speaker 1You're one of the coolest people that I know .
Speaker 3Oh well , please , You're the first .
Speaker 1And I'm excited to see where your career goes from here , whether it's just more like big roles , season two of Running Point or your writing .
Speaker 2you know Fingers crossed and we're going to be in it . Yeah , we are going to be in it .
Speaker 3Trust me , the when I make something , my friends will produce it , they will cast it , they will direct it . They will star in it , they will edit it , they will do it all . That's it .
Speaker 2Because the beautiful thing about being a creative is that other creatives have creative
Sip or Spill Game
Speaker 2friends . Yeah , and we're all so talented . It's so fun to come up together .
Speaker 1Yes , your house ever was , you know yeah . Yeah , I mean , we know he has like 10 , but you know you and your friends are all there together like damn it , like we did this together yeah , and I just know that they have the talent and they deserve it and it's just like you got to get that foot in the door and absolutely you know and sometimes , like we said , with social media and like how it is now .
Speaker 3You almost do have to do things on your own and make them something yeah , and then it gets picked up , or then it gets Rachel Bloom , my craziest girlfriend . Brian Jordan Alvarez , english teacher write your own , write your own thing , yep tell your own stories , tell your own stories that's the theme of this entire thing and then pretend like it's not about you . Yes , because , boy , we got a lot .
Speaker 1Okay , we have a lot . Where can people find you social medias ? Where can we look for you ?
Speaker 3next I'm on Instagram .
Speaker 1Yeah , scott Evans Graham . What's your other Scott Evans Instagram .
Speaker 3I am Scott Evans . Okay , I think , or that's his Twitter .
Speaker 2I don't know my Twitter , but yours is at Scott Evans .
Speaker 3At Scott Evans Graham . Graham , okay , it used to be , Mary Queen of Scots , wow . And then when my managers were like you should change that , because it was Queen Q-W-E-E-N .
Speaker 1No , I love it . Mary , queen of Scots Mary .
Speaker 3Queen of Scots I wanted to do X marks the Scot Somebody had it .
Speaker 1That's so cute . What loves Scott to ?
Speaker 3do with it .
Speaker 1Oh , my God . I kind of think you should go back and figure this out .
Speaker 3I wish .
Speaker 2That's going to be the intro . I was like what's Scott have to do with it ?
Speaker 3no , my podcast or my memoir , is going to be called Over my Dad Body , literally . That's really clever . You're clever , literally . I love a pun . You should be a writer .
Speaker 2I'm a big fun person .
Speaker 1Alright , everyone . Thanks so much for joining us on this episode of . Milk and Honey . Thanks again , scott . Thank you , scott , and .