Milk & Honeys
Milk & Honeys" is the perfect blend of raw industry insights and unfiltered realness. Like the ingredients that sweeten and smooth out a cup of tea, hosts Kayla Becker (TV host of 10 years) and Vanessa Curry (model and actress of 10 years) bring their own flavors to the conversation— Together, they spill the tea on what it really takes to live and thrive in LA’s entertainment scene.
So, grab a mug and sip on some Milk & Honeys—because we’re serving the tea with all the right ingredients.
Milk & Honeys
Episode 3: Spread ‘Em Only If You Want To w/ Kayla Becker and Vanessa Curry
Kayla and Vanessa dig deeper into their personal journeys in the entertainment industry, sharing untold stories and harsh realities that come with pursuing a creative career in Hollywood.
• Vanessa recounts a commercial shoot where she was pressured to wear lingerie and appear topless despite the original agreement
• The hosts discuss the misconception that fame brings an easy lifestyle when the reality includes constant pressure to stay relevant
• They reveal their most "LA" experiences, from hiking Runyon to drinking handmade juices to visiting chiropractors
• The pair share what they would tell their younger selves, with Vanessa emphasizing not letting others dictate career choices
• Kayla reflects on overcoming her difficult childhood and learning to stop being so hard on herself
• Both hosts talk about celebrities they'd be starstruck to meet, including Nicole Kidman and Denzel Washington
• They reveal the disturbing reality of receiving inappropriate DMs and strange requests from fans
Follow us on Instagram and TikTok @milkandhoneyspod and please send us your questions or stories that you'd like us to discuss on future episodes.
hello everybody. Welcome back to another episode of milk and honeys. I hope you haven't forgotten yet. I'm sure you haven't, but we are your hosts, kayla becker and vanessa curry.
Speaker 2:I didn't write your name I just wanted you to say it yourself. I know and I can't remember your co-host name, vanessa curry. I know this. We're friends for real, okay, you can?
Speaker 1:you can look it up, check back instagram. Uh, we're very early in on this first season of milk and honey, so we do want to give you guys a little rundown again of what we're about. The name it's not an OnlyFans title, although someone did tell me Milk and Honey sounds a little suggestive. That's not what we meant it to be, but we love that it's suggestive. It's suggestive, but that's not our point. No, we've been, you know, active lately on social media, which has been really exciting, kind of giving you guys a bit of a back story about what we are about. But the whole point is you drink your tea, right, vanessa?
Speaker 2:Yes. What do you put in your tea? You put the right ingredients in your tea.
Speaker 1:You put the right ingredients in your tea, which is milk, and honey, which is Kayla and Vanessa.
Speaker 2:And who is who Doesn't matter. Let you decide who's milk and who's honey?
Speaker 1:No, but yeah, welcome back. And on our first episode we kind of ran down a little bit of our personal backstories, how we got to LA, what we do in the industry, but figured we might dive a little bit deeper this episode. What do you think?
Speaker 2:I think that's a good idea. I think people deserve to know they deserve.
Speaker 1:I mean, we talked about this.
Speaker 2:Well, we talked about this. Do they deserve to know? Or if they're listening and they're watching us and supporting us supporting us, you deserve.
Speaker 1:You deserve it then you deserve it, yeah, um, well, let's go back into we don't go all the way back into how we got here, um, but maybe the reason why, la, you're from california, you're not from los angeles, yes, but you've been in the entertainment industry for a very long time, very long time, and anyone who knows anything about the entertainment industry for a very long time.
Speaker 2:Very long time, and anyone who knows anything about the entertainment industry knows that Los Angeles is the place to be, although that is shifting a little bit, we're seeing it is, which is great, right, I mean just it gives more opportunity for everyone, which is nice, but LA still is the place where, if you are in LA, people are like, oh, they're doing it, you know, which is, which is weird, because technically, you can do it anywhere with social media. It's been such a great um, part of, like, the access to make a name for yourself, which is awesome, um, but yeah, but I mean I've I've been here not doing social media. Uh, I love social media and I love the opportunities that come with social media, but I'm still out here auditioning, doing self tapes, doing all the things that I've been doing and yeah, it's a journey.
Speaker 1:And there's a lot of stresses stress factors that go into living in Los Angeles but there are a lot of positives, including the careers that we've been able to make by being out here.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, you have any like, I guess, funny or cringe worthy stories of like the hollywood life that you've lived I was booked for a commercial and I was told that I was gonna be wearing basically what you're wearing, like pants and a top.
Speaker 1:You know so like the typical outfit for every human being every day, when I leave your house wearing bottoms and tops. Bottoms and tops yeah.
Speaker 2:And got to set at, around you know, 9.30 in the morning, the artist that we were shooting with. I won't mention who this artist is, but the artist hadn't gotten there yet. This was hours and hours and hours of waiting, doing hair and makeup. We finally the artist gets there. We go into the trailer. There's three of us. We all got booked to be the main person, but the artist was going to choose who they wanted to be the main person that day, which we did not know that that's like so much like childhood trauma.
Speaker 1:Right there, red rover, let vanessa come over like when I and I last person, chosen or not chosen?
Speaker 2:so they let one of the girls go, okay which was horrific.
Speaker 2:I mean, like she literally like blocked out her day for this. She gets, she comes to set, gets makeup, hair, hair and makeup ready and they let her go. So then there's two of us left and they're like, okay, well, we're just going to use you guys, um, on on a couch scene, so you're going to be sitting and like hanging out, blah, blah, blah. Fine, you know whatever. Um, this is about 10 PM at night, okay, mind you, we got there at 9, 9, 9.30 in the morning and they're ready to shoot now, of course.
Speaker 2:So we go downstairs, me and the other actress are waiting, and all of a sudden we go into this room and there's, you know, lingerie on the floor. And the director comes in and is like, oh, you guys are going to be wearing these. And I said, well, we were told we were wearing what we're wearing now jeans and like a T-shirt, and hanging out on the couch. And they're like, oh well, you auditioned in a bikini. And I looked at him and I said I auditioned for the lead role. This is not the lead role Good for you.
Speaker 2:And the other girl. You could tell she was a little bit newer, so I kind of felt like I had to take her under my wing and say no, no, no, you're not putting that on until they they pay you the right amount. You know, it's like usually when you're in lingerie or you know, even for anything like that has to do with altering your body or your face or your hair or whatever, you get paid an extra fee. That's usually how it is. No, no, no. The director comes in. I told him that he storms off and I immediately you could tell the makeup artist was standing next to me. She could tell I was going to start crying. It's weird. I never want to be a nuisance on set.
Speaker 1:No, but you stand up for your values and the fact you were there to you know, tell a younger woman to do the same. I mean, did you have that when you were coming up? Someone who was maybe something on set happened similar to that who was like, no, don't you know, stand up for yourself I didn't.
Speaker 2:I had to learn on my own, unfortunately. So whenever I am on set and I know that I've been in this industry for oh my gosh gosh almost almost 20, 20 years now, it's like I feel it's my duty to make sure that they're protected too, and so I was really proud of myself. The makeup artists who was there with me like bless her she. She helped me and she was like do not cry, do not give them that. And um yeah, so that that was it we. I ended up getting paid double. Okay, I called my man, my agent, and she said we are going to get you more money or you can walk off set. She was so supportive. So again, get people who are on your side, because I know there's a lot of agents who'd be like what's the problem? But my agent was like no, no, no, if you don't feel comfortable wearing this, then don't it was a woman, by the way.
Speaker 2:Who was a woman helped a lot too yeah, pam pam love you, pam lyles love you. She had my back a thousand percent and, like I said, like it was lingerie but it was like a bikini, but still. But it's the point and you weren't.
Speaker 1:It's the principle you know, you weren't notified beforehand that you'd have to do this. Nope, they were making assumptions. Probably thought they could take advantage. You should just be thankful for this opportunity, which is something especially as women. We hear a lot in this business, and you should just be thankful. Do what you're told.
Speaker 2:Be a good girl yeah, and and move on. And the last thing, I'll close it out sitting on the couch, okay, I worked with this pa before, so I knew him. And we said hi and blah, blah. He comes up to me, he goes I'm so sorry to have to ask you this. And I said what are you about to ask me? And he goes um, the artist wants to know if you'd be okay being topless after all of that. And I said I just laughed, I said I think you have the wrong girls and also like where's this commercial going? Cause it's not going on television. No, and I obviously said no, uh, we did one one shot of that take. We were released and when I went into the room where the hair and makeup was set up and our all the wardrobe was set up, they had hired wardrobe was set up.
Speaker 2:They had hired um sex workers to come in and do that role really yep they were all wearing like black like silky robes, getting you know oiled up, which is fine, it's fine that makes.
Speaker 1:That would make sense to be in the beginning. That's how it should have been, but not for a commercial like commercial.
Speaker 2:You know network broadcast, you're never gonna see naked people on. I, I hope not. I mean, I don't, I don't think so you know, yeah, not. So yeah, cringe. Well, high five.
Speaker 1:I'm proud of you oh, that's women supporting women and just entertainers standing up for themselves. Absolutely, would you say that may have been one of the harder lessons you've had to learn. Come I mean again you. It's been almost 20 years since you've started this journey and you've seen a lot that a lot of people haven't seen, and you've been able to grow a lot and learn a lot, but that right there was at a pretty yeah that was a pretty pivotal lesson.
Speaker 2:I knew that I would not allow people to take advantage of me. I've allowed that in the past. Just because you know, I started this industry when I was 15 and I wanted to do everything. I wanted to say yes to everything, which I think you should right. Everything that feels good to you say yes. But and I always want to go above and beyond for a client, always. That's just my nature. It's how my mom raised me, like we go above and beyond, we give 110%, not just a hundred percent. So I never want to be disrespectful on set or anything like that. But that was the moment where I was like no, you're actually being disrespectful to me and I'm not somebody. I'm not an 18 year old girl who's who doesn't know anything. I think I was maybe 26 at the time. So at this point I'd been in the industry for 10 years, yeah, and and I said no, no, we're not, we're not doing that, unless you think you've lost jobs or opportunities because of standing up for yourself.
Speaker 1:I know there's, you know, a list actresses who can attest to being put down and like or put on the back burner or blacklisted in Hollywood because they may have spoken up for themselves.
Speaker 2:Right? I don't think so. I I definitely try to do it in a very respectful way. I'm never trying to come at anybody aggressive. I think that's important. It's how you uh respond to the situation. In that situation, the director walks in and tries to make me feel uncomfortable and I'm like no, no, no bro walks in and tries to make me feel uncomfortable and I'm like no, no, no bro, like, don't do that to me, I'm not. Yeah, this is not my first rodeo. You know, I know how this works.
Speaker 1:I feel like that. That situation is portrayed a lot in even movies about being in Hollywood you know, about the directors, the producers, and like the fact you have to like sleep with one to maybe get a role, how I guess accurate are a lot of like the examples that we see in movies and television and to what happens in reality.
Speaker 2:I think it's, I think it's all situational. To be honest, I really do. I I think, look, some people will get good roles because they maybe have a close-knit relationship with the producer or the director or something. You know, it's just. But also, I I think it's like I said, I think it's very situational and, and it's you right, I'm not willing to, I'm not willing to have sex to get my way to the top.
Speaker 1:Hell yeah, good for you have sex only because you feel like it because you want to, because you want because you want to only spread them if you want to okay like uh, if we get merch, that's gonna be on it, spread them only if you want to oh my god, we're gonna. We're gonna get into some more.
Speaker 2:Uh, I feel like I've been interviewing you this, I know, I know, maybe that might be a thing you should come in and interview me for an episode too.
Speaker 1:Yes, um, I think we should play our game, though, before we get into more deep questions.
Speaker 2:Questions because we are fun.
Speaker 1:We're not all giving you all the doom and gloom of hollywood. We love hollywood or we wouldn't be living here. Obviously, absolutely. Um, it's very expensive, parking isn't free, the homeless, it's pretty you'll.
Speaker 2:It's. The homeless is like the homeless is up and down. Sometimes they're really nice, sometimes you're buying them.
Speaker 1:I do if you're if you're going to a taco truck after like a club or something, expect a homeless person to come up to you and be like hey quesadilla and you're like, and you're like okay, you bring it back and it's not exactly what they wanted, though they will tell you, yeah, like, oh, I don't like sour cream yeah, okay, and you're like okay, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, yes, I'll do.
Speaker 2:I'll do better next time um, okay, what game? Do you have for us?
Speaker 1:because this is more getting to know us yes, this game is called she's wiping the dust, let me just dust it off for a second hold on, we're not really strangers. Oh yeah, I don't even know what this game is about. So, again, I'm not the deeper person she is. So, as we continue doing this show together, we need to get closer. Yep. So this is the way we're going to do it, so I guess I'll let you start.
Speaker 2:When I try to ask Kayla to do three cleansing breaths, she gives me one.
Speaker 1:And then the other two. She's like what are we doing With an attitude, With an attitude, A very attitude cleansing breath, Literally by the third one.
Speaker 2:I open my eyes and she's staring at me like this Is this breath not done? She's like what are we doing? I'm like three cleansing breaths girl. Okay, so we're going to dive in. There's three separate sections, but I think we should just like. Easier to hard, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:I liked it. Let's keep it easy.
Speaker 2:I think it's like light to deep Okay.
Speaker 1:Not easier to hard, but light to deep. Yeah, how I perceive emotions Easy to hard. So we're just going to like.
Speaker 2:Let's just pick it off. Yeah, let's just pick the first one. And this is level one. Is perception Great? So first question is how many?
Speaker 1:how many speeding tickets do you think I've gotten in my life? Well, I feel like, OK, I'm going to answer this really quickly, because when I look at you and I feel like you could get out of pretty much any speeding ticket or law violation ever just by smiling and laughing. So I would say no more, I'd say two Close.
Speaker 2:One. I've had one speeding ticket.
Speaker 1:We are over a quarter away through our lives. More than that, she said one. We've been driving for almost 20 years. No, literally One speeding ticket. Congratulations, I'm really happy for you, I literally, literally.
Speaker 2:and the one speeding ticket I couldn't get out because it was my first one. I was crying, so I was like please don't get.
Speaker 1:Were you actually crying or was that like the acting coming in like?
Speaker 2:no, I was crying. It was late at night, it the cop pulled me over. I was also scared too, because I've been hearing all these stories at the time of, like cops pretending to be cops, and so I think I was scared. I called my mom and, like, just left her on the phone.
Speaker 1:So how old are you at this point?
Speaker 2:I must have been 20.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, vanessa, yeah, yeah, have you gotten pulled over before though?
Speaker 2:and gotten out of them.
Speaker 1:Have you gotten pulled over before, though, and gotten out of them? No? So, you never. Even you must be a great driver.
Speaker 2:Well, I've gotten into my fair share of accidents, okay so, but not your fault, because you didn't get a ticket Right, but you know, it's like 50-51, like who's really at fault. It's like most of the time I'm the 51%.
Speaker 1:The one behind the car that gets hit is what I've been told. I've had like seven, at least seven speeding tickets, no way Like. But I've never been able to get out. I can't turn on the waterworks, I can't. I get really sassy and I get it from my great grandmother. Rest in peace, granny. She was a sassy lady and she was around 90, 90, she was probably 90 years old and I'm saying I'm doing an accent because we're from the South. Ma'am, do you know why I pulled you over and she goes? Why, officer? And he goes? Because you were going too fast and she goes, or, officer, you were going too slow. Stop it right now. She got her license revoked after that because it's like you shouldn't be driving at 90 anyway. And so I have that same attitude I get pulled. I've gotten. Every time I've gotten pulled over, I've gotten a ticket, typically like a really high ticket, lots of points on my license.
Speaker 2:So yeah, but not yet in Los Angeles. Knock on wood. That's amazing. That's amazing, yeah, but I mean, everyone drives reckless in Los Angeles, you're supposed to run the red lights here I.
Speaker 1:When I first moved here I got cars mad at me because I didn't run the left turn After it turns red, you are still supposed to turn. Oh, I didn't do that because I'm from the South, we don't do that. Oh, that was a big thing. I had a car chase me down. Tell me to roll down my window to say pull out to the middle when you're in the left lane.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but you guys probably have more left arrow, left turn arrows. We like where are the left turn arrows? We have to, we have to wait for the other cars to go and then you know, take a chance and be like I'm gonna make that left and then all of a sudden it's red and you're in the middle of the road and you gotta make the left.
Speaker 1:yeah well, I grew up in a town with no stoplights, like my town, wadley, alabama, town of 500 people Stop it right now Zero stoplights, not one.
Speaker 2:Wow, not a one. Did you love the movie Sweet Home Alabama? I had to say that with an accent.
Speaker 1:Not really. No, I appreciate it. Are you still in the accent right now? I?
Speaker 2:love it. No, I mean it's horrible. But hearing you say it, I just feel like I want to do it.
Speaker 1:It's a very accurate depiction of what it's like to go back home. When I was in college I'd go back home and there was this woman who lived in our town named Frances Gunn rest in peace who ran the column in the newspaper and she got wind that any of the kids home from college were in town. She would write an entire it'd be a whole column like okay, let's come in home, home from nashville this weekend. So then everyone knows you're there. So then all like your high school, like flings and friends, want to see you, especially like at that point I'd already started working for wwe and they're all like these big wrestling fans, although they weren't very nice to me growing up because the kids were mean in school. Oh, you better believe. Now that I'm home they want to meet and talk and take a picture and say we're friends with with Kayla Kayla from WWE.
Speaker 1:That's exactly what they want. That's exactly what they want, okay. Okay, should we do one more? Let's do one more.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'm going to just pick a random Perfect. I'm going to go deep. Should I read this one? Yeah, you should pick it actually.
Speaker 1:Wait, is there like like? Should I just like so?
Speaker 2:this, this is like deeper. Let's just pick a deep one, let's go. You want to go like deep, this deep, that's deep like the deepest.
Speaker 1:You want to go as deep as you can go. Let's just go deep for a second. That's what she said. Okay, I'm so scared. Right now play a round of rock paper scissors.
Speaker 2:Winner can ask their partner anything okay, must answer, let's do another one.
Speaker 1:This is more like when you're with your like romantic partner and you want to do a sex thing yeah, that's like what we're doing rock paper scissors, like come on, okay. Like let's move on we're not those kind of friends. Okay, what has been your earliest recollection of happiness?
Speaker 2:earliest. Is that what it said? Yeah, what was your earliest? Look at how like annoyed she is at that question, because it's just like what's like happy I'm gonna choose the game next time, like spin the bottle or something.
Speaker 1:Okay, how about? Okay, hold on, I'm picking another one. This is why she's not. Hold on, let me pick another one to pick. Let's okay, I'm gonna go back to the easy section. Hold on, I'm gonna. I think the easy is.
Speaker 2:This is too deep for Kayla today, okay, oh no, I don't want that one either. Hold on, okay, I also don't think this is how the game is supposed to work. Hold on, but she is now on card 11. And you better.
Speaker 1:Hold on.
Speaker 2:All right, this is the one. This is the one. This is it.
Speaker 1:I found the one that we want to do, okay, oh, this is kind of appropriate. And I think a good amount of emotion, okay, okay, do I seem like a coffee or a tea person, sweetened or unsweetened?
Speaker 2:She went for the most surface level answer. Well, Vanessa, what?
Speaker 1:do you think, am I a coffee or a tea person?
Speaker 2:Honestly, I do think you're a coffee person. I hate coffee.
Speaker 1:No, you do not Hate coffee hey. I'm so glad you know this now before you start bringing me coffees.
Speaker 2:Do you drink tea? Thank you, thank you. It's like it's. It's like when I'm on set and in the middle of the day after lunch, I either need like a little sip of like coca-cola or I need like a celsius. Like I don't want a coffee, I want something that's gonna get into my, get into my body right away, like a, like a Red Bull or something.
Speaker 1:Celsius, I don't know if you just heard that we just gave you free advertisement.
Speaker 2:So if you want real advertisement, just hit us up, it's fine.
Speaker 1:The peach flavor is our favorite. Okay, Well, let's go back. That was. That was really fun about speeding tickets and caffeine.
Speaker 2:We'll get deeper as we go along, and that is as deep as Kayla will go.
Speaker 1:For now, I'm going to break her, don't you worry.
Speaker 2:Episode 100.
Speaker 1:Well, back to our Hollywood and entertainment careers. If you're watching right now or listening right now and you're thinking about making the jump into this world, I'm sure you do have ideas of what it is all about, whether you've been watching like the movies and television that talk about Hollywood, or what it's like like Entourage. Entourage, before I moved here, was a big like show that we all watched. I'm like, oh, this is how it goes, and I do think that show did a very good job of being realistic with what it's like to live and work in the studios and be an actor and be a producer and all the ups and downs. What do you think people assume working in the entertainment industry is like versus what it actually is like?
Speaker 2:Well, that's. I mean. I think we both probably agree that everyone thinks it's lights, camera, action, glamour, blah, blah, blah, like all this stuff. But there's, it's nitty gritty, it's just like any other job, but there are different layers to it. Right, it's like the hustle. Everyone always likes to ask me like, how's work going? Well, I'm like it's good, but it's a hustle.
Speaker 2:It's it's and, and sometimes there's lulls where you don't get a lot of auditions or work is slow and you got to make sure that you have stuff saved for when it's like a dry moment in your career, because we all have those, even the biggest actors, actors, yeah, you won't see them on tv for years. Yeah, it's like they, they. You thought like, oh, this was their moment, they're famous, now they're, they have all these opportunities. But then, yeah, like a huge show like let's just talk about, like, maybe Game of Thrones. Right, it's like those actors were such huge actors for an X amount of time while they were filming those shows, but some of them may never work again, but, like in that moment, for the six, seven or however many years they were filming, it just looks like that. You know what I mean. But it's not Like. Obviously, yes, there is glitz and glamour to it, but behind the scenes it's. You have to be very smart, you have to be um strong, you have to uh, calculate everything you know, stay grounded.
Speaker 1:I guess, when you hear people and I this is a thought that crosses my mind a lot when people are like, oh, I just want to be famous, okay, so why do you want to be famous?
Speaker 2:Is it?
Speaker 1:because, based on what you see in the tabloids and on the award shows, you think everyone just has like this good, like cush life. They're making all this money. They just get adored by their fans. All they do is walk red carpets and get free stuff and make all it's like. No, that is not at all. I think people just have a very big misconception about what being famous is. Yes, I think they think it's just oh, this is the easy way of life is being famous, and I absolutely that is not the case at all no, being famous is hard.
Speaker 2:It is like staying at the top and staying relevant. It's, it's a lot of work and, you know, it's like also being famous sometimes probably has its downfalls, too right. It's like I mean, I think yeah, ups and others yeah everything.
Speaker 2:Some people just enjoy their craft and it's and and they do really well at it and that's why they get fame for it. But then when they're outside of that jurisdiction, they're themselves. But a lot of people like I remember Mariska Hargitay from a Law Order SVU. She said you know, a lot of people come up to her because they really believe that she's an SVU detective and they ask her questions. So it's like she's not, but she's always like I'm willing to, like I've learned so much and she's done a lot and she's amazing. She's one of my favorite actresses, um, but it's like, you know, she's like I I'm not, I'm, I'm acting in this. I am not a detective, you know, but okay, let me help you. And, however, so it's like it's it's separating your job from your life. You know, a doctor goes into the the room and does surgery, but once he walks out he's John Smith. He's not like John Smith, the brain surgeon. You know what I mean. Like it's, so it's. I do see people.
Speaker 1:It's really hard for people to separate the two, which is hard, that's hard, and it lends to that, like the pressure of just always having to be on you know, always having to be performing or performative, having to be on, you know, always having to be performing or performative, I know for me, I always felt.
Speaker 1:I think that's why my, my social life, my personal life, is very like boring.
Speaker 1:And I do that by design, because when you are always on on television or on set, when you finally get to come home, you don't want I mean, at least I don't want any of that like I want to be a recluse, I want to be a hermit, I don't want to talk to anybody, I don't want to make any plans, um, and then when, when I worked in wwe we'd finish a show, I'd be at be at an arena for like 10 to 12 hours and just on, on, on.
Speaker 1:Then we walk through the hotel lobby to go to our rooms. All the fans are there wanting pictures, wanting to talk to you, and I know a lot of times I probably got perceived as like a little bit of a bitch and I wasn't trying to be it. Just like I am no longer kayla braxton, I'm kayla becker now and I want to grab my glass of wine at the bar, have my pizza or talk about waiting in my hotel room and I want to turn it off like yep, do you know? Like that pressure of just always having to be on, absolutely, and when we're on, we right.
Speaker 2:It's like we could be on set for 12 hours and I'm on, I'm not tired, I will get it together, I will make it happen. But the second they're like that's a wrap and they're clapping. You're just like let me get in my car, let me just. Sometimes I don't even put music on, just sit in silence.
Speaker 2:I just open my windows and I just drive home, you know, and I just listen to the wind hit my windows, because it's just, you know, you have to be like we're not just, you're not just going there as a host, you're going there as a personality. I'm not going there just as an actress or model either, like it's like I'm going, we're going there as personalities and so I'm not gonna lie. This is why this is so out of my comfort zone, because me being like myself is really scary, because I'm we're used to being like okay, whatever they want us to be, yes, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So be gentle with us, okay, cause has it ever made you want to like quit, though Like I, I know I've wanted to. I joke about oh my God if I win. I play the Powerball a lot. I get that from my mom. I'm on a mega million Powerball. By the way, as we're filming this, the Powerball just got won like 30 minutes down the street in Anaheim. Stop, like a half a billion dollars. I'm like why wasn't it me? I bought four tickets and I kissed them, had the dog kiss them and I prayed. It's fine, it's not my time, but I do joke. If I were to win the powerball, I would like tell my friends where I was, maybe send a postcard and just disappear, quit from the entertainment industry and just like live a life of seclusion and peace I think I'm the opposite.
Speaker 2:I don't think I've ever wanted to quit, but I have had the idea of you know, is this not for me? When it's like a low, like a dry spell, or you know you're not working as much, and things like that, it's like I don't want to quit. But I get that feeling where it's like, is it not for me? Like, is this not, you know? And I start to go into that dark space where it's not always fun to go to. And then I have the support system around me that pulls me up. It's like no dude, like you know. When you don't work for X amount of time, you're like, ok, well, maybe I should just hang it up, yeah, but I don't want to. It's not that I want to ever quit. I love being creative. I love I don't.
Speaker 1:I don't see myself ever not being creative and I don't see you learning this. Oh man, I can't really answer that question. Like whack surfboards and serve.
Speaker 2:I would. I would live on a farm and and I'd be a farmer have you done that before?
Speaker 1:yes, oh, I was raised in farm. I hated it. Okay, sorry, I didn't mean to just shit on your, your, your dream. No, no, I, I, just I won't visit that farm though.
Speaker 2:What is honestly like the most LA thing that you've done in LA yesterday. Let me give you an example. Yesterday I got up early. I went to the hair salon. Okay, okay, this is, this is the most LA day that you could have. Okay, went to the hair salon.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, this is. This is the most LA day that you could have Okay.
Speaker 2:Went to the hair salon. Um, I was supposed to go to Pilates but missed Pilates because my hair salon took a little too long. Yeah, Happens to all of us. So instead of going to Pilates, I went on a hike.
Speaker 1:Uh huh, runyon.
Speaker 2:I was about to say Runyon is the most LA thing, most LA. Oh, mind you, at my hair salon there was this guy walking around who I guess comes like maybe once a week and does he makes juices like really like handmade juices. So there was this like coconut water recovery juice that my hairstylist was like just take whichever one you want. So I got one of those, took that with me to Runyon and then when I got back home I made a chiropractor appointment.
Speaker 1:That is what life in LA is like. Guys, come on over. The water is warm, don't you love that? I do. No one works a typical nine to five job at the office. You can wake up, go to the hair salon, go hike Runyon, get a nice homemade juice and then, go to the chiropractor but look, some days I'm on set for like 15 hours.
Speaker 2:Okay, it's not. It's not a nine to five, it's like a nine to whenever, whenever.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, and that is what about you?
Speaker 2:what's, what's like something that you've been here and you're like, wow, that was so la.
Speaker 1:I mean, I think the most la thing I've ever done is move to la. There was a long time I was like I will never do that, I'm never moving to Los Angeles. And then of course I did, but I guess kind of a very similar thing. I'm like I've never been a super health nut, but I eat a lot of avocados now.
Speaker 2:Do you add lemon and like salt to it? I've been Tik, I've been.
Speaker 1:I've been tick tocking some different ways, some different variations of like the health food. I do a lot of Runyon hikes, um I some. I go to vegan restaurants. Wow, if I, my parents would disown me If I, if they knew if they knew no, they don't. They won't watch this If they knew I like was eating vegan, Um okay, no, they won't watch this If they knew I was eating vegan.
Speaker 2:Okay, your parents not liking vegan?
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely not. It probably gives them the ick.
Speaker 2:Okay, yes, so for you, what has been like the biggest ick moving here.
Speaker 1:That's a good question because I will say I'm not. I don't consider myself super LA. I think I'm glad I moved here as late in life as I did. If I had moved here in my early twenties I may have turned into like this super, like annoying. I hate that so freaking much. Everyone is just. Everyone is a social climber, not everyone. A lot of people in LA are social climbers. They want to see how they can use you to get ahead. I don't know, that's my. That's a huge ick for me in this town.
Speaker 2:I agree with you One of the big. It's funny we have the same answer, cause I was going to say the biggest ick is meeting someone and the first thing they say is like what do you do here? It's like, probably what you're doing here, we're all in the creative. Most of us are in the creative field.
Speaker 1:Especially living in West Hollywood, which is where we owe everyone, even your bartender, your waitress, your waiter. This is their gig, just so they can go do their auditions, like that is what we do here. So stop asking stupid questions. You're going to know the answer to Absolutely.
Speaker 2:Also, I don't care what you do, I just.
Speaker 1:I just want to know if, like you're not my people. But you know, keep moving on and good luck on everything.
Speaker 2:Yep, yep me speaking of meeting people. Yes, um, have you ever had a job or like a moment with like a celeb that you've gotten like starstruck with or or not really well?
Speaker 1:yes, a couple times, um, one that wasn't a job I was in was. I have a very short list of people that I wanted to meet, famous people, when I moved out here, and one of them is the late Leslie Jordan. I have a shrine of him in my apartment. Basically, if you don't know Leslie Jordan, he's a little old country gay man. If you don't know him, just look him up. Anyway, I've always loved him very much, especially being from the South and him being so open about his sexuality.
Speaker 1:But I was sitting in WeHo one one day and I saw him walking by, just little leslie jordan, holding his shopping bags. Everyone was wanting to stop old leslie and then I was like I have to say something here. And so I was like leslie and he comes over. He's like hey, there, darlin, you are so, you're so pretty. And then we're talking, we take a selfie together, we talk, you know, we get to know each other and I'm he follows me on social media and I'm like I could die tomorrow and be happy. That was a bad thing to say before what I'm about to say, but the very next day is when leslie jordan died and so I woke up the next day and got a tmz alert leslie jordan dies in car accident and I was like how wild to me.
Speaker 1:I just moved to la. He was like one of the top three people I've always wanted to meet. I meet him, we connect. The last thing he posted on his social media was a photo of me and him and the next day he passes away. I'm like I feel like I was supposed to meet him. Yes, um, I do like a. What would leslie do in my head? Like because he's just such a nice person. But I would say that was the the most starstruck I've been since I've lived, since I've lived here, and I I think about him often what about you?
Speaker 2:I don't, I don't honestly think I've been starstruck yet with somebody, honestly, but I I do think I I would be starstruck if I got a chance to like work with, like, nicole kidman.
Speaker 1:Oh, my god, she's just I agree everything.
Speaker 2:Just, I just love the way she embodies herself and in her work and how she is in real life. And I heard an interview with her one time because with her and Ryan Seacrest and they were like you know, why are you in everything? She literally does everything.
Speaker 1:I'm like is Keith Urban at home?
Speaker 2:Like, is she ever going to? Come home to me and she says she goes with with the way that my name, how big my name is. I know that putting my name to a specific project that maybe doesn't have well like big named actors yet is going to elevate them. And she's like so how could?
Speaker 2:I say no to that and it's amazing. So I think if I saw her, if I got to work with her, oh my gosh, it would be. Whew. I get like little chills, like tingly feelings in my body. But yeah, I think she would be one person, her. And then, for a male, honestly it'd be Denzel Washington.
Speaker 1:Like if I got to work with.
Speaker 2:Denzel Washington, are you insane? I just just to sit in his room. His energy, his presence probably takes up the entire room. I and I love that, but, wow, like those two would be. Whoa, yeah, you know, like, yes, please I did love to work with both of you, nicole denzel.
Speaker 1:I think there should be a movie where the three of you are starring and all of us?
Speaker 2:no, all of us I'll just I'll just sit on set I just want to sit there and yell with like cut wait, okay, hold on before we be. Should we go into like, should we go into our younger selves or should we do dms?
Speaker 1:we can do both, it's fine, okay, let's, let's do it. Let's, let's. What do you want to go on first? We have notes here of things you want to talk about and typically we get like a fourth of these done, because she and I just go off on tangents. Yeah, hello podcasting?
Speaker 2:yep, why don't we go into like younger selves, because I think that'll be a little bit more. They round it out and then we'll round it out with these.
Speaker 1:The next question which is okay, just great. So how about you start if you go back in time?
Speaker 2:something you'd tell to little vanessa um, what I would tell little vanessa is do not let anyone dictate your career. I've let friends' opinions get into the way of my career at times. I've let significant others get into the way of my career at times and I've allowed other people in my past to make decisions for me. I think, no, I don't think I know I've allowed other people to have their opinion affect the way that I say yes or no to a job, and you could never do that to me now. And I've learned that through trial and error and like this journey, like we started being in this industry for 20 years, I say yes to things that I feel comfortable with, and if it doesn't feel comfortable for other people, then that's fine. Um, you do what you feel. It's your life.
Speaker 1:You have one life to live, and so why spend it making other people happy? Absolutely what about you. Uh, I think if I could tell little poofy haired chubby ashy need kayla something four-eyed freckle face.
Speaker 1:Um, I think that everything's gonna work out exactly how you want it to I think I'm such a I'm always on high stress, I'm very I wouldn't say necessarily neurotic, anxious person girl, especially when it comes to like my career and based on, like my early childhood and like you know, kind of a messed up childhood and going into foster care and like even when, even when I was little people telling me, oh, you're just gonna end up just like your mother who went to prison, and I think I always had to fight myself to not believe that I would end up just a product of my circumstances, whatever that I can like be above, rise, above the statistic of being a foster kid Right, and it's been a fight that I still have.
Speaker 1:But when I actually let myself sit and like look around me and what I've accomplished and how far I've gotten and how far away I am from that point in my life, I'm like holy shit, kayla, like stop being so hard on yourself. Like everything is working out. I treat people kindly, you know I put in the work, and I think those are things that you need to do in order to see the results of what it is that you're chasing. And so I wish I told my little younger self that. But I mean I think in 20 years I'm gonna wish I told my 34 year old self the same thing, so I'd stop being so hard on yourself. Things are going to work out for you, just keeping a good person. Be kind, do things the right way and you know dang.
Speaker 2:That hit me in a weird way. I'm like getting all teary eyed, I cause I I feel that too Right, it's like, it's a, it's okay, like everything's going to fall into place how it falls. And we're so hard on ourselves, we're so tedious about like every little thing and sometimes I want to be like it's okay. It's okay if it's not perfect, like that means that you're human. Yeah, it's okay, exactly Well.
Speaker 1:Thanks for sharing with us, of course, thank you. Are we done with emotional stuff? Yeah, yeah, we are. We're going to go like another five minutes of this show and then we're going to be done.
Speaker 2:But like oh, vanessa's getting teary eyed, absolutely not Kidding. Okay, okay, okay. Last thing Okay, let's talk about this. Okay, okay, because I don't get that many crazy DM. Oh, the DM DM situations, but I know this gal does. Okay, so let's start with you, because I only have like maybe one or two, but I know you have some crazy ass DMs.
Speaker 1:Well, at this point I'm about a year removed from working in WWE and I want to preface this by saying those of you who are watching, who followed me here from WWE, who've been very supportive and not perverted with me, thank you.
Speaker 1:I'm not talking about you. I want to say I'm not talking about all wrestling fans, of course, but to the wrestling fans I am talking about, my DMs are filled with some of the most disgusting things you could possibly find To, where I've written a song about it before that performed at a stand-up comedy club and maybe I will sing it to you or show it to you someday. I have gotten besides just words telling me like, let's see your uh to like sending me photos of their situation sitting me, photos like this one guy had a photo of me on his ipad and he had just ejaculated onto it and then sent me a picture of that, to me like. That is the level of things and this isn't like a once in a blue moon, this is every day. We should do an episode where I'll hand my phone to vanessa and just let her read through the dms, because it is, it's non-stop and I hate to say that it's I worked in a male dominated. Yeah, that was wrestling fans, so yeah okay, pretty disgusting.
Speaker 2:I did not. Okay, I, maybe you're ready. Maybe I should have gone first.
Speaker 1:Maybe you're asking for something a little less no no, no, no, we wanted all of them.
Speaker 2:Mine is disgusting too, but that is like that's wild.
Speaker 1:I wonder what they thought like what they're expecting the reaction to be like. Oh my God, I'm so glad I got to just see your semen all over this. I am so turned on what's your number, let me call you right now what?
Speaker 2:do they think is going to come from that, but also like why would you want to ruin your ipad screen with semen all over it? Also, what happens if it seeps through the cry, I mean I can imagine.
Speaker 1:Take that to the genius bar apple and tell them what happened. Sorry, I wanted to send a photo to a girl I've never met in my life. I just see her on tv of me jizzing on my ipad.
Speaker 2:Oh my goodness okay, mine's not as bad as that, to be honest. I mean mine, I I've gotten you know. A guy asked me one time hey, can you wear your thong for three weeks and then mail it to me and I'll pay you x amount of money. And I'm not gonna lie. I was like that's so freaking weird, but also like, like also I think it was like two thousand dollars.
Speaker 1:I almost thought about doing it, but but I just didn't. And you could also like not even send it. You could be like this is spray some.
Speaker 2:Spray some. How are they going to know? They're never going to know. They're never going to know, they're never going to know. But I didn't do it. But that is like, honestly, the craziest thing I've been offered is can I?
Speaker 1:have your thong. Well, now that I'm posting about you more, I'm sure a lot of these spirited individuals are going to come over to you and see you. I already had a guy tweet me about you because this guy hates me and he said I should read it. I think I screenshot it, but he's like I'm not a fan of Kayla. He thinks that we're texting because somebody is texting him, pretending to be me.
Speaker 2:And he's like Vanessaessa.
Speaker 1:She seems like the smarter, more like she's a more beautiful one. I have bad. I have bad, a bad pass with kayla, but like I love vanessa, like, so you already have a fan. I can connect the two of you if you'd like.
Speaker 2:He's probably already in your dms absolutely not okay, like lordy that is wild and that's just the surface of what she gets. I'm sure, yeah, I'm sure. Well, actually on our one of our posts, uh, we've been posting on our milk and honey's pod at milk and honey's pod on instagram and tiktok or what is our same?
Speaker 2:milk and honey, milk and honeys, um, and yeah, somebody already commented about like wanting to see our feet. So I, I was like, oh, that must be one of your fans. And what's disappointing is we did this whole cute photo shoot and there's like we were doing on commented about like wanting to see our feet.
Speaker 1:So I, I was like, oh, that must be one of your fans and what's disappointing is we did this whole cute photo shoot and there's like we're doing on the couch. We're in these suits with no shoes on or socks and I didn't think about that.
Speaker 1:But I'm like why do I have to think about that? Now it's our feet. Like I have to crop our feet out of everything. Now also, I get pedicures on a regular basis. I gotta hide that now. Yeah, that's a hundred dollar pedicure that I just can't show the world because of you creepy people.
Speaker 2:We should just send them our Venmo and be like look instead of commenting just send us money for the feet pictures. If that's really what gets you off, we'll just keep it between us, no one has to know.
Speaker 1:It's great, oh my God. Well, another fun, in my opinion fun episode.
Speaker 2:Yes, I love this, but we have to stop ourselves. I know we could keep going for, like when we get together, like at each other's houses, and just have two bottles of wine and we're just chatting. It's like four hours later, like, oh we probably should like go home, yep, but we can just keep, and we're not. We're not sitting and just like watching TV either. We're literally talking the entire time.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, this is is really hard to keep it under an hour an amount of time, but that's why it's good that you guys are listening and tuning in with us and hopefully, things that we're saying are relating to you and over time, we hope that you send us in some of your you know stories of your life, because we'd love to share them with everybody else listening. We can all just be one big I keep, I keep trying to make this work hive, because milk and honey wow, well, the, the, the beehive fans may come after us oh, beyonce, come on beyonce.
Speaker 1:How about beyonce? But we're just, we're just on this show b?
Speaker 2:yeah, we're just. We're just amplifying the hive. You know, like we, we love the hive. We're an extension of the hive, exactly, we're an extension of the hive. So we're not taking the hive.
Speaker 1:Okay, so don't come at us, we're not taking it we're just, we're just adding to the beehive and maybe we should probably, figure, change it a little bit. I don't need beyonce and jay-z coming after me. No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2:We definitely don't want any of any people coming after us okay, uh, all right, yeah, I mean I I think also it's like we would love to hear you know comment, like subscribe to our our's. Like we would love to hear you know comment, like subscribe to our, our podcast, and we would love if you guys have any questions or advice. That's kind of why we also wanted to start this, you know, is just help people who want to get into this and see if this is something that they really enjoy doing and and make a career out of it, you know. So, yeah, we would love to hear what you guys have to say and ask questions and all the things.
Speaker 2:And send us some of your creepiest DMs. So that you don't mind us.
Speaker 1:Well, we won't say the person's name who'd send it to you. If you let us read them out loud on the show, I think that'd be pretty great.
Speaker 2:I think we could do a whole segment that's just oh.
Speaker 1:Look at us Finish. That's just oh. Look at us finish each other's sentences. I was gonna say finish sandwiches. Wait what the frozen?
Speaker 2:you know we're getting there we're getting there, we're working on it alright.
Speaker 1:Well, I guess we should better stop yapping, yes, but thank you guys for joining us. This was Milk and Honeys, kayla and Vanessa, and we'll see you on the flippity flip.
Speaker 2:Yep and remember, yep and remember we're always serving you guys the tea with the right ingredients.
Speaker 1:Did you like that? That was really good. That was so seamless. Oh, thank you.
Speaker 2:I think we got it. It just went.
Speaker 1:It just went All right. Bye guys.
Speaker 2:Bye guys.
