Milk & Honeys
Milk & Honeys" is the perfect blend of raw industry insights and unfiltered realness. Like the ingredients that sweeten and smooth out a cup of tea, hosts Kayla Becker (TV host of 10 years) and Vanessa Curry (model and actress of 10 years) bring their own flavors to the conversation— Together, they spill the tea on what it really takes to live and thrive in LA’s entertainment scene.
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Milk & Honeys
Episode 11: Mushroom Chocolates & Villain Origin Stories w/ Kayla Becker and Vanessa Curry
We dive into Justin Bieber's surprise album "Swag," JoJo Siwa's confusing rebrand, Scheana Shay's shocking memoir revelation, and why "The Studio" might be the most accurate portrayal of Hollywood we've ever seen.
• Justin Bieber's new album shows his growth as an artist and maturity as a father and husband
• The public's harsh criticism of celebrities often fails to consider their humanity and right to enjoy themselves
• JoJo Siwa's dramatic transformation from her signature style to a 1950s aesthetic has left fans and critics confused
• Scheana Shay revealed her husband Brock Davies cheated on her while pregnant, raising questions about the timing of this disclosure
• "The Studio" on Apple TV+ perfectly captures Hollywood's complex inner workings, power dynamics, and absurdities
• Our new segment "The Honey Jar" reveals our villain origin stories and why we'd choose being rich and hated over broke and beloved
Join us next week for more pop culture deep dives and the return of the Honey Jar!
What's your villain origin story?
Speaker 2:And I can't read.
Speaker 1:What's in your cup? It's actually just watermelon juice. Today, it's not even alcohol.
Speaker 2:Well, here we are again. Welcome back everyone to another episode of Milk and Honeys. We are your hosts. I'm Kayla Becker.
Speaker 1:And I am Vanessa Curry.
Speaker 2:You know about this podcast by now. We talk about pop culture, our personal drama, whatever makes us question our life choices, and let me tell you there's quite a bit these days.
Speaker 1:Oh, yes, there is, and today's episode is pretty stacked we have to talk about. Justin Bieber just dropped a surprise album Swag that we listened to. I already listened to the whole album and you know JoJo Siwa is back in the headlines again for maybe confusing herself or everyone Confusing me.
Speaker 2:I'm confused.
Speaker 1:And we're also going to talk about the studio on apple tv. It just might be the most accurate depiction of hollywood, and I just love it so much it's like before.
Speaker 2:It would have been entourage, I feel like, was like the best, like example of how hollywood is yes, it took it to like that next level, um, even from the way that I feel like they their camera movements, just the one continuation shots, just it was so high paced. But yeah, we'll get into that. The show's been out for a while but Vanessa texted me today and she's like hey, can we talk about the studio? I'm like that's one of my favorite shows lately.
Speaker 1:I'm re-watching it because it's so good, because I know I missed things the first time I watched it. So, like I'm going back and it's even funnier, we'll have like a we'll do a day, a weekend where we just watch the whole thing and you know, gotta talk about a little bit of hot goss.
Speaker 2:So we've had one member of this show, peter magical, on our show earlier on, but we're now we're talking about miss sheena. Shea, bless her heart, she just has the hardest time just finding her place in the world and she, uh, recently revealed that she has her husband brock actually cheated on her while she was pregnant. Um, she found this out a few years ago, but she's just now coming out with this information conveniently right before she releases her memoir. So my kind of thing is like why are you coming out with this now?
Speaker 1:but hey, whatever, if you got to use your own personal shit to sell some books do you girl, and look, I mean, at the end of the day, she has to be honest because it's in the memoir. So you might as well let the people know now, before they read it and are shocked. Gosh, there's so much drama circulating that?
Speaker 2:We'll get to that. Yes, we will get to that.
Speaker 1:But we're also debuting the Honey Jar.
Speaker 2:The Honey Jar 11 episodes in. We have a jar that looks like a honey jar with some questions, and we're going to get to that at the end of the show. So this is going to be a fun, fun little day. Yes.
Speaker 1:I'm excited.
Speaker 2:All right, let's go ahead and get into it. We talked about Justin Bieber, who just released his what number album is this? It's the first one in many years. It's called Swag. I did not know what it was going to be going into it. He's had a lot of different versions of himself over the years, which is to be expected in this industry. I really enjoyed this. It felt like maybe he had gotten a little inspired by Michael Jackson. It's very smooth, but he's a grown-ass man. Now he's a husband and he's a father. He's got more different struggles to be singing about.
Speaker 1:What did you think about it when you first listened to it? I actually really liked it. It's vibey. It's one of those things where we can put on and have a glass of wine. Maybe you know if you're somebody who partakes in. You know marijuana here and there.
Speaker 2:I don't know what we're supposed to call it. Like a joint, like you, like some glass, a little joint, not that you should light up and drive right, be in the passenger side.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, have a driver. Have a driver, then light up and then get in the passenger side with the top down, down pca. That's what it felt like. It felt. It felt very mature. Um, I loved my. I think one of my favorite ones honestly like that made me giggle was I think it's called daisy and it's about hayley, okay or yeah I was like hayley baldwin, they're married.
Speaker 1:Bieber, they're married. Yeah, same thing. And it was just sweet he talks about like his phone, the phone case he references that and the lip gloss in the phone case. It's like it kind of made me giggle and I was like, oh, that's kind of cute.
Speaker 2:I love that. Well, it is cute. I think this album was an ode to her. Because, god, I mean, what was the other song, walking Away? Because everyone has been obviously criticizing their marriage they know nothing about, based on some photos paparazzi might snap of them, looking like maybe they're not all over each other, but in the song he like promised her I'm never walking away and I was like, oh, that's so sweet. Like he put all these critics to rest. There's no, they're not going to be a part of some big hollywood divorce anytime soon.
Speaker 1:Hopefully I hope not, yeah, I hope not, yeah, I hope not, and also I did really love. Also he takes some snippets from that paparazzi clip the paparazzi incident that he had. And you know, the man's just trying to what lay on business? Is that what he said? Stand on business or stand on business, lay on business or lay on it. I would love to lay on business Sometimes it's exhausting, let's start.
Speaker 2:That's going to be our new phrase.
Speaker 1:We're going to lay on business.
Speaker 2:No, it is cool. We've since baby days. We all grew up with some. Justin Bieber Absolutely that poor kid, I feel like has just had a rough go at it growing up in Hollywood and has constantly had people try to bring him down. Of course, he has been involved in potentially one of the biggest scandals happening in Hollywood. There's no telling what's going through his mind. And then people are seeing Justin Bieber out at these festivals looking like he's on something or drunk.
Speaker 1:He's having a good time Like we go out and have a good time.
Speaker 2:If someone had their phone in my face every time I'd be like why can't people just have a good time without being criticized? Oh, they're off the wagon, they probably need to go to rehab, or he is just having. He's tying one on, he's having a night he's out, he's doesn't have the baby.
Speaker 1:If he had the baby in his arms and he's like that's one thing a little.
Speaker 2:You know, tipsy or whatever, she went a little too hard.
Speaker 1:But then I'd have some concerns, but I I genuinely don't even on, even when he's on stage, when he performed with sZA, and people, yeah were were criticizing and I'm like I don't know. Like I grew up dancing and I grew up dancing on big stages and that's not being the main artist, but even as a dancer on a massive stage, that feeling is so euphoric and it's just you feel like you're drunk or on drugs or like whatever. And maybe he was, which is totally fine. What?
Speaker 2:stars are up there, like literally public. There's been following this new, not artist. You're drunk or on drugs or like whatever, and maybe he was, which is totally fine. What stars are up there, like literally public. There's uh been following this new, not artist, newest artist, young blood. I'm obsessed. Go look him up. Uh, okay, a little bit of a crush on the guy. I don't think I'm his type, but uh, he's ozzy osbourne's successor.
Speaker 2:Ozzy osbourne, basically at his last concert, like recently, um for black sabbath, basically like handed the torch to this guy named Youngblood. That's awesome. But he's so open and funny, like this is my first drink before my show. This is my first drink, last drink, yep and he's having a good time and it's like why do we have to start villainizing people for just enjoying themselves, right, you know, enjoying themselves, I think also for Justin Bieber.
Speaker 1:He got his start at such a young age and he was so successful at such a young age, and I think we forget sometimes that these people are just people. Yeah, and the moments where we make mistakes, most of our mistakes are not filmed or being followed by paparazzi. And so there's times, you know, I remember years ago, when he like ran over a paparazzi's. And so there's times, you know, I remember years ago, when he like ran over a paparazzi's foot. It's like he didn't mean to do that, man, you were just standing out of the way you were literally standing in front of his car, like what is he supposed to do?
Speaker 1:He's trying to just go to the grocery store and get in his car and go home, and so it's. It is hard. I think we were just seeing him figure out his life, like who he is, as a young man, and then now you know, he's getting into fatherhood, he's getting onto another journey, another path, and you know, I heard something not too long ago that Drake was talking about when he goes to I think it was Drake or was it Chris Brown, I don't remember, but one of the two whenever they're out of state or like out of the country or something, they'll wear like a mask and they'll go out by themselves because they never get to go out by themselves without someone saying something to them.
Speaker 1:or you know, and I'm sure a lot of people who have fans like they, love their fans and they appreciate it, but we also love our alone time you know More than anybody does, people in the public eye especially. So I thought that was really cool. And he's like yeah, nobody even knows that I do it, I just we're not famous, but I kind of want to do that.
Speaker 2:I know we should Actually no.
Speaker 1:People probably think we're like stealing something if, like, we're out there in masks.
Speaker 2:Our friends are like what are y'all doing? Yeah, okay, on Tuesdays we wear masks.
Speaker 1:But I mean, those are the lengths that some celebrities have to go through and I, I my heart goes out to them because, yes, like you're talented, you have all this money, you have all this talent, you get to do these amazing things and live this lavish life. But there, there is still those moments where you're like dang.
Speaker 2:I do wish I could just go to the grocery store by myself, like she couldn't mean think about Taylor Swift, like she couldn't go to a grocery store if she wanted to, or like, yeah, and like you said, it's like the trade-off and I know, for me I feel like I could never be that level of famous, because I think I would.
Speaker 1:I want to be out in the world and not feel you know I want to go out to WeHo with you on the weekends and be and not like be worried there was a time when I was living in Orlando and was still at the height of WWE in Florida.
Speaker 2:especially Orlando is a huge wrestling community that, like anytime I would go out, people would recognize me. Of course, there was like a time I was over-served. It wasn't my fault.
Speaker 1:That was such a good term. She was over-served. I was over-served at one of the gay bars.
Speaker 2:I think I was dancing on the bar Of at one of the gay bars just living. I think I was dancing on the bar, of course you were. You know, like any other time we hang out and then I see this person bring out their camera and like, oh my god, kayla braxton. And then, like they weren't doing it to be mean, yeah, but then they like want to take a picture of me and what, and I was like too, like inebriated to say no. But then the next day I'm like, oh, I don't like that, like I really try to keep that part of my life very like protected or like controlled.
Speaker 2:I only let people see what I want them to see. As far as my like like letting loose For sure, because people won't run with that, and there's already. A lot of people on the internet were like Kayla has a drinking problem because I'd post a glass of wine a few times a week. Is it true?
Speaker 1:Maybe I don't know, but it's not for you to say I like having a glass of wine every night, or two or six tequila shots on a Saturday, I don't know, or 60 kilo shots on a.
Speaker 2:Saturday. I don't know, this is not an intervention episode. Come back for that, however. Okay, but I do want to, because we have all seen those photos of Hailey and Justin over the years. I mean, like I see why people might assume that he hates her based on, like, his body language with her, or like she's trying to hug him or kiss him and like he seems and we don't really know what's going on there, right, but like for me, I know, like if my, if I'm with my significant other, I want them to like be so obsessed with me and like look so proud to be next to me all the time. Right, I feel like I would settle for nothing less. So I do. I mean, I feel like there definitely was some issues in that relationship.
Speaker 1:I'm sure there were. I feel like they've been pretty open about that too. I remember they did a Vogue interview, I believe, years ago, and they were pretty honest about that. You know they go to therapy together. They they are aware that their lives are not traditional and you know Justin was pretty open about his struggles with mental health and Haley was pretty open also with having to work through those struggles with him.
Speaker 1:It's not easy to work with someone with mental issues. I mean, I struggle with them all the time and my boyfriend has to sit there and kind of listen and it happens to me more often, way more often than it happens to him. You know what I mean? It's just that's just the type of person I am, and I think I don't know. I feel like they seem pretty normal for not being normal, yeah, no, true, you know, I hope that it is, on all in all, a good relationship for them to be in balance, like plenty of love, love.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's going to be issues as long as the love is there, and I do feel like it's hard to say when they're outside in the public, because it's like, why would they want to give us PDA? I know Like that's just they know doing that, someone's going to take a picture, they're going to be able to sell it and, like you said, it's all about the money. All you want is money, money.
Speaker 2:And I get it. Woman, and as the one in the relationship who's getting like the brunt of the criticism. Like he hates her, like I, I feel like I felt bad. So much for her, because that's hard.
Speaker 2:You don't want the world to think that your husband doesn't like you and that's what I'm like okay, well, maybe you should have like put a little more effort into showing it, which not that you needed to, but I think that's just how I would react, because I don't want to be like oh, I'm the fool for staying in this relationship and everybody else can see I mean. There's no way. I can't even imagine what it would be like to be in a high profile hollywood relationship like I think. Two people that really got it down is zendaya and tom holland.
Speaker 1:I feel like they're so to themselves unproblematic.
Speaker 2:They love each other. They you get a little pda here and there, but like, but not too much, too much. They both said when she gets pregnant, like they're gonna quit hollywood and just be parents, like I think they just got their head on straight with that.
Speaker 1:They seem very, very balanced and loving to each other and I love sometimes when they're walking in and out from a building or something. He's so protective over her, but not in a mean way to anybody, but he will literally hold you back.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, he's gone off on paparazzi for that.
Speaker 1:And you know, he's smaller than her.
Speaker 2:I love that, but he does not care. That is a short king. Yeah, he is a short king. He's a definition of short king, maybe he's not even short.
Speaker 1:I just know she's probably really tall.
Speaker 2:I think he's short and she's like a supermodel. So it's like you it.
Speaker 1:Now that we're getting ready for the last season, we should also do that, and that was like one of the most brilliantly that really has done so well, like even just from the production side of it, like the film, cinematography is just beautiful, even if something so shitty is going on. You're like, wow, it's just beautiful.
Speaker 2:It looks really beautiful, though you're kind of stunned by it, you know and just everyone in.
Speaker 1:There is just an A-list class.
Speaker 2:And I love seeing all their careers taking off.
Speaker 1:A-list class. A-list class. A-list class. A-list class.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Not that they're all A-list celebrities, but like an.
Speaker 2:A-list cast. You're not saying what you want to say, but I know what you're trying to say what am I saying? I know what you're trying to say. Well, let me know if you know what I'm trying to say An A plus cast. I don't know.
Speaker 1:I know what you're trying to say A great cast is what I was trying to say. I was just trying to be a little bit. You know those are really good casts. I was just trying to be like cool with my words, but sometimes they don't come out the way that I want them to. Well, we cover, and all the cover artwork was just so dope too, and yeah, it just shows the evolving of.
Speaker 2:Justin Bieber. So I'm hoping there's new fades of his life. It'll be interesting to see what artist he is in, like 20 years, like 40 years, and I think we're about to get on that journey with him as he's maturing with his music. Oh for sure Someone else who also is going through a little bit of a rebrand musically and maybe a rebrand in her entire life. I'm confused as hell. I think the internet shares that sentiment. We're talking about Ms Jojo Siwa, who has entered into her bisexual era. Welcome. Never thought you'd be here, but we're happy to have you. The internet is very divided. On that retro cover I'm sure you've all seen it, if you have the internet or tiktok, uh, the bet davis, uh eyes with a nod to her boyfriend.
Speaker 2:I want to say that again to her boyfriend not girlfriend her boyfriend, chris hughes, who I actually thought maybe was a little gay, I don't know well, I mean, it would make sense.
Speaker 1:I mean what they?
Speaker 2:call lavender marriages. They're just.
Speaker 1:Maybe they're just bi, maybe they're both bi.
Speaker 2:Maybe they're both bi.
Speaker 1:And that works too.
Speaker 2:But if you saw it, she traded her signature style for a 50s bob. Red lipstick pearls one of the ugliest ruffled crop tops I've ever seen we're gonna do this, do it in a better way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was I. I still don't know if I have, like I got secondhand embarrassment, word watching, words to say so cringy.
Speaker 2:But I.
Speaker 1:I feel like she was trying to vocally sound a little bit like miley cyrus slash g flip I mean she's obsessed with g flip, so and it just didn't it to me, it just didn't like hit that mark for me, but I, I, I could feel where she was trying to go, like an ad for don't smoke, because that was the raspiest, and then not only was it raspy it was what did again.
Speaker 2:whoa jojo, are you in here? It also is heavily auto-tuned. So you have this raspy auto-tune and like anytime it just I don't know it creeps me out Like listen, she's 22 years old. When I was 22, I probably was like going through and finding myself. I think that's the first. I think it's probably like early when I was like messing in the bisexual world too, but I didn't come out of being a really like butch lesbian to going it. Just, this jump is confusing everybody and I'm all for. I'm all for finding yourself right, and it's hard to do this publicly because I feel like I should figure that stuff out kind of behind closed doors and then but this is a little extreme, I feel like there could have been a step before this it's definitely a 180 to who she was just really strongly being.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean Like now it's like a she's a trad wife. She dressed like a damn trad.
Speaker 2:Like, isn't that? Completely like the? That's regressive as hell. All right for the gay community, we're going to, and for a woman we're going to do this aesthetic here, right right, it was a very interesting choice, and I'm actually curious where she's going to go next. I mean, what's another Like metal? What's next Metal? I could see her doing some metal music.
Speaker 1:I could too, honestly. I mean because she used to have a mohawk, right yeah, Like a faux hawk and the raspy voice will sound better in that, but this just wasn't it for me.
Speaker 2:But I'm going to try not to be a hater.
Speaker 1:No, but at the same time, I do think it's really hard, like you just said, to be in this limelight and figuring out what your sexuality is and people want to know so bad. What you're doing, what you're feeling, what, who are you doing? You know what I mean. Like they want to know so bad.
Speaker 2:And she's always extremely open and she is, and I think that's probably why people like hate her, because I think she's almost too open and which is her prerogative, yeah, um, but like I think that's why people get so annoyed by her, because it's like, oh my god, what is she doing today? And is it? And I think people question like, is this genuine or is this just your like performative and trying to get like a reaction? Because, also based on, I read a lot of comments and like reading the comments, she's getting so much hate anything she does. She gets hate, even like in her super lesbian era with like that one song where she was like having an orgy with a bunch of girls on the beach or whatever. Um, she doesn't seem to give a shit and that's one thing I can admire about her. I don't think the criticisms or haters affect her at all and she just goes in harder, harder and for that I can respect. But growing up, what Dance Moms, is that how famous?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was going to say she was on one of like the harshest shows. Honestly, dance Moms like watching that show now I mean I grew up in a dance environment as well, like a dance studio and stuff, and shout out to all my Dance Makers family and yeah, there was like drama and stuff. Always there's always going to be drama, but like it was not what I saw on Dance Moms, not like that. I mean she went through I mean all those girls did, but she went through a lot on there, you know, and honestly, like yeah, I can't hate it. You know why? Because her mom was smart enough enough she took what she did on dance mobs dance mobs. What's wrong with me?
Speaker 2:today that's a new color.
Speaker 1:Yeah, dance mobs, um, and made an entire brand out of her daughter and um, that's really really cool, and so I think right now, like you said, we're just watching her figure out what she likes to do what she wants.
Speaker 2:I mean, Miley went through this, she's had this forever.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Miley even says when she was on the red carpet, like when she was always like sticking out her tongue, like whatever, and she said her mom told her one day you're going to regret that and she's like, yeah, but like it gets people talking.
Speaker 2:And she admitted that, and maybe Miley taught her this. Maybe this is something that maybe Jojo she's a mentor to Jojo and she said it Because it's true. People are talking about it. Yep, it is everywhere.
Speaker 1:That's why I'm excited to see where she evolves to next, honestly, because right now she's a chameleon. We don't know what we're going to get from her.
Speaker 2:So I'm not mad at her doing the different vibes of herself, but I just just give us, give us a couple steps in between something this drastic because I think that you just ripped the rug out from underneath all of us with that and I'm like I feel like she's trolling us, but I still I don't know. And she has every right to explore this new feminine side, because she hasn't really had the opportunity, or she just hasn't gone down that route yet so um, you know what, Jojo, do you? But like, hit, hit us up if you need some fashion tips, because we got to work on the. The feminine, the feminine style, yes.
Speaker 1:Or not even feminine. If you want to dress like boyish too, we can help with that as well.
Speaker 2:I don't think she and Chris Hughes are sharing any clothes right now. Oh my gosh. The day they do, though, I know I know We'll probably know about it, we'll be talking about it.
Speaker 1:We will know about it, yeah.
Speaker 2:All right. Well, moving on from the music world, I'm going to talk a little bit about the reality world. Fiona Shay, fanny Pump Rules, turns out Brock Davies cheated on her while she was pregnant and she is just now spilling the beans ahead of the release of her memoir, memoir um. She discovered it back in 2023, though, uh, but he cheated in 2021 during covid and when she was pregnant, was summer moon, um, and then he later confessed, handing her a letter, um detailing the affairs. First off, he told her about it in a letter. Bitch, I wish you would, if you were, if you had the balls enough to cheat on me while I was carrying your seed. And then you tell me with the letter I don't even my daughter, my kid, would not have a father. No, and she would not know who he was. No, and he would no longer be above six feet.
Speaker 1:You know, I'm saying like, yeah, and and it is just a very interesting thing too, because his background in the beginning of the show when he was brought on, yeah, is not in a good light, right, because he hadn't talked to his own.
Speaker 1:He hadn't talked to his kids for four years or something like that. He was not allowed to see them, which we still kind of don't know. Oh well, he got into a fist or like a altercation with his person at that time, yeah, and wasn't allowed to see his kids. So he already had like a negative connotation.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he came into the show. Everyone already hated him.
Speaker 1:So to have him do this, it's not necessarily surprising, but it is surprising that it's coming out right now. Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 2:If anyone follows Sheena Shay, even she's making these little appearances on the spinoff show, the Valley. She's not a cast member, but she keeps showing up and it's so funny to watch because she's so hyper aware of the camera. She wants to be in the limelight. So bad. That is like everything to her. She needs to be wherever the camera is, and so it is like weird, and I do think she has a habit of making things about her. That's the thing she'll like.
Speaker 1:She turns everything that's not about her to being about her, even with Scandival yeah, I mean I, and I also think that she, like Lisa, always tells her I don't feel like I'm getting the whole truth from you like tell me actually what's going to be transparent with me, like I, you know she's like I want to help you. If that's the case, you know so. I. It's not surprising that she didn't talk about it on the show. Well see.
Speaker 2:I am surprised because I feel like she would have used that to catapult her like an Ariana moment or a Brittany moment. Cause now Brittany, with all the fallout with uh, with Jax Taylor, like I think she's even she's probably a little in like Lala Kent, I think was a little bitter that she didn't get the Ariana treatment with the Randall thing Right. These girls liked oh, I was the scorn or I was the one done wrong in my relationship. Now hand me a Love Island host contract, Right, Give me a Dancing with the Stars contract.
Speaker 1:And they did Give me a batteries contract.
Speaker 2:You know she got that huge-. Oh yeah, I know that huge deal with the battery company after this girl. Oh then Tom was like I don't know, you don't buy batteries, so I'm going to go fuck your best friend. You know, this seems like an equal.
Speaker 1:you know, tit for tat, I feel like we're even now, you know. But, also to have a, because he admitted that he had a separate phone right, that it went through like a who Brock, he had like a separate phone, I think, or something like that, right, but that he had like a separate phone, I think, or something like that, right?
Speaker 2:But that he was like texting others yeah.
Speaker 1:And that just sounds like so much work.
Speaker 2:Cheating just seems really difficult, like I feel like for me. I don't even like having one person honestly like and next week I'm going to get more into this I'm going to have I have some personal news that I'll share next week about me and my relationships, but it was a lovely relationship.
Speaker 1:I typically don't like them and I can imagine having to juggle more than one person's feelings and then having to keep my story straight and having to make two people feel special and wanted, like that is so much work, I had a friend who I knew was being unfaithful to a partner and I just remember, kept telling her that I'm so worried about your karma, because how do you go back and be with your person, how do you like, and just look them in the eye and I love you nothing is going on diabolical.
Speaker 1:I couldn't, my anxiety, I would literally have a heart attack.
Speaker 2:I will be, because also you can't like we don't like lying and we're not good at it and I don't want to lie Like that's just again.
Speaker 1:Like my brain can only hold so much information here. Like I wish I could hold more, but again like it's too much.
Speaker 2:There's been a time or two I've like wanted to lie. I'm like preparing it in my head Okay, lie, lie, lie, Just deny, deny, deny, lie, lie, lie. They ask a question. I'm like truth, Like. I just can't do it Because I'm like I think it's just going to be better in the end if I just can get it out instead of holding on to it.
Speaker 2:It's always going to be better in the end if you tell your truth and speak your truth. But I am curious, though, about the Sheena thing, because I don't buy. I just I don't feel like that's her personality. I feel like she would have immediately been the one that's like.
Speaker 1:So I, I want to but I I think she's also very protective of her energy and her relationships. She's always been like that. I mean even her ex-husband, you know. No one knew that he had a drug addiction, um, until until it came out, it came out you know like, and was very, very protective about that. We know that she knew. Yeah, I mean she didn't know the whole time, but when she did find out I guarantee it wasn't not everybody knew right when she found out.
Speaker 2:But I don't think it's to protect him. I don't think it's to protect them. I think she cares very much about what people think about her.
Speaker 1:For sure, but you are right. At the end of the day, she is just about protecting herself.
Speaker 2:She is, she is Okay, but I want to like breaking it down real quick. Also, when she found out she threw a Rubik's cube at him. Just thought that was a little funny.
Speaker 1:I wonder if it was like already done. Who's like?
Speaker 2:oh yeah, was, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Was it already done in the?
Speaker 2:shoe through, or was it still like all jumbled up? It was already done and then it got jumbled up, I'd be like. That'd be a good like.
Speaker 1:fuck you, Because if it's jumbled up, that's going to really hurt Because you know it's all like twisted, but if it's actually all done it's just a square.
Speaker 2:There's corners on a square, vanessa, I know. But so he said he was scared of fatherhood so he picked sex with a side piece over his pregnant wife. So do we call that being a coward? Is that a criminal offense? Like I think that's just, that's just.
Speaker 1:I think that's just a bullshit answer for saying I don't want to be a father, so I'm gonna go cheat on you?
Speaker 2:What Also you're?
Speaker 1:already a father. Yeah, I was going to say first of all, you're already a father. So that statement actually doesn't even make sense. It doesn't Scared of fatherhood.
Speaker 2:You mean like not absentee fatherhood which we already used to.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because actually he was an absent father so for at least four years. We know that. So it's like he's feeling which is so messed up.
Speaker 2:You would think he would go overdrive and try to be the best His kids probably watched.
Speaker 1:I'm sure they're old enough now to know that he's on this show called the Antipode Rules and that everyone knows that he was not around for four years and that he punched his mom or his baby mama wife whatever they were at the time, I'm not sure, but I'm like dang, if that was my dad I would be so I know I would be so sad. I would just like, because that would make me really think I was just such an unwanted person.
Speaker 2:This also makes me call bullshit on, like all of him being so emotional when everyone found out like I love my kids, ok, but then what did you just do? You have your unborn child and then you cheat on its mother, like make it make sense. How are you so remorseful about like I call bullshit, I don't like the guy. I don't know, I don't think I would like the guy.
Speaker 1:Also, it's like talk about like generational trauma, like how traumatic are you? How messed up is it that your wife is pregnant, super connected, obviously physically, with this child, and you giving her all of this heaviness and weight is also giving it to your unborn child. They know, you know what I mean. Like we are connected from generations before this generation and unfortunately it just sucks Like I hate that this is such an innocent person being Not even getting a chance to come into like a normal family because, now, this kid's going to know about this obviously.
Speaker 2:And then it's going to know about this obviously.
Speaker 1:And then it's going to be and people don't think about these kids going to school and getting bullied.
Speaker 2:She's going to read the book eventually. Yeah, it's sad. Do you think if this happens, if you were pregnant and he cheats on you while you're pregnant, is there a world where you could forgive that? Like what do you think you would do?
Speaker 1:Absolutely not. No, do you think you would do? Absolutely not. No, I I know we've talked about this before just cutting you. You're really good at cutting friendships off. I am really good at if I'm done, done in a relationship, it's done. Yeah, like and, and I just think infidelity like that, it's calculated yeah.
Speaker 1:Like you intentionally had to curate or curate, carve out time to go do this and leave your pregnant wife who I'm sure could use you, just literally sitting on the couch next to her with your hand on her belly, not even talking, just chilling watching TV. But instead you decided to leave her and go be with somebody else. Like that is just. That's really hard to wrap my mind around. I mean sure, not sure, but sure, cheat on somebody when they're not pregnant is still messed up. But like to be pregnant and you know that the baby feels everything that the mom is going through, that is just like beyond, I know and she didn't being as emotional as she is I don't even know how she.
Speaker 2:I don't know how she stayed, other than just for I think she has always wanted a family, so bad but, she, you could, you saw how she was with her last husband her husband and like she just loves, loves so much and that's all she wants. And I do feel really bad for her because I can't imagine what like the like um, like the p, the PTSD or postpartum was like because of that even more.
Speaker 1:And now she has to live the rest. If you know, if they decide to stay together forever, I don't know. I feel like I would have to check somebody's phone all the time.
Speaker 2:I would have to look at their DMs?
Speaker 1:I would have to. Are you actually going to the grocery store or?
Speaker 2:like, are you?
Speaker 1:I don't know, like I just feel like I would spiral, my brain would just spiral and I would just have thoughts all the time. And so I think it would be easier for me to just be like you know what, let's just co-parent, you do you, I'll do me, and like, for the sake of our child, we will be fine when we're all together. As a quote, unquote family.
Speaker 2:Well, brock you better get your shit together, because if you have two separate sets of kids now that you are not involved in their lives because of decisions that you've made, yeah, this is like a moment. You take a deep look into yourself and this happened many years ago. So they seem to be doing fine now. So hopefully this was a one time thing. But when it comes to cheating, obviously it's non-negotiable, it's done like you said. But what is worse? Do you think emotional cheating or physical cheating?
Speaker 1:I honestly think emotional for me it would hit harder. Because physical to me is like, okay, well, you just need to like get your dick hard for something or whatever. Probably it's just like a mental thing, like some guys wake up with like hard ons in the morning out of nowhere you know what I mean. It's like that. That's just like a physical, like you climax, you're done. But an emotional connection is we're talking about a lot of different things. I'm letting you into a part of my portal that that I don't let everybody in.
Speaker 1:You know, what I mean. So I I don't know. For me, emotional cheating is I would. That makes me question more about like myself, like how come you didn't feel like you could come and be open with me, but you can be open with this like stranger, where I just think like sometimes sex is sex. You know what I mean, and I hate to say that, but it's like, yeah, some people can just do that. It's like, oh, I just got off, but I don't really care about them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what's funny. A lot of times you hear it like in movies and people say in real life, when the the girl's crying because she just found out her partner cheated on her and the first question is always do you love her as in, like they're ready to forgive and put it behind them. If the answer is no, yep and it's. I think it is a weird thing society has done. Though, when it comes to like gender roles, like I think a lot of times men get kind of they get.
Speaker 2:They get off easily, no pun intended, yeah but, I feel like no they'll cheat and then they'll get forgiven. And then it's like maybe they'll cheat again and get forgiven again, whereas I think, and then women, I I even have some really like, uh, like hard-ass people growing up who would probably be like, well, well, if your husband cheated on you, you need to just figure it out for the family. As a woman Like you're just expected to, just like men can't help it, like you said and what did you do, men, just get horny and they have to go have sex Like they can't help it, so you have to forgive them.
Speaker 1:Rolled reverse, we'd be called a whore and a witch and hung in town square. Absolutely, you know, absolutely. Do you think it was in the best interest for Sheena to not say anything for two years? And, you know, bypass all the Bravo fires that she would have gotten about announcing that on the show?
Speaker 2:I don't know, I think it's a weird, I think it's a calculated move, because it's like why? Now? I mean I know why, it's because the memoir for sure but I still can't figure out, knowing what we know of sheena, why she wouldn't have brought it up back then, because it just that's not, that's out of her character.
Speaker 1:If she'd be the one that's like, well, I'm going through this too, yeah, and then make everything about her, because what she's known do, and maybe she just grew a little bit right and didn't want to bring it on the show because of the scandal of all stuff that was happening and because of Lala's situation and like I don't know. Maybe she was just like you know what. I'm going to let them live this out on this season and I'm just not even going to bring it up. I mean, I don't know, I would like to think that people grow and, you know, change and take accountability for their actions. But who am I?
Speaker 2:I think Josh does her hair, so I'm going to ask Josh to like get all these answers out of her, josh, we need to know. Or just bring Sheena. Well, that'll be a guess, we'll just bring.
Speaker 1:Sheena on to tell. We'll just bring Sheena on the show.
Speaker 2:Okay, from reality TV now to one of the better shows that have come out lately that we were talking about. Yes, we've got to talk about the studio Seth Rogen. Love the guy so great. Also, like we've seen Seth Rogen for the last 20 years on our TV, this is the first time. I was kind of like daddy. Yeah, you know something about this salt and pepper. Like older Seth and Rogan, I'm kind of into.
Speaker 1:You know, what's so annoying Is that guys just get like hotter over the years without doing any skincare to their face or like dyeing their hair. Meanwhile we have to have like Botox and like filler and like get our hair done. And oh, also, mariah hair, just did my hair today your hair is so cute. Yes, at Mariah hair. She did it. Why don't you do my hair?
Speaker 2:I know we're, we gotta, we gotta go to her. This is not fair. We cannot be coming in here on this show. Vanessa's walking in on. She's just walking into the villa on love Island looking all glam and then I look like this. This is not fair. This is unequal. I will not stand for it anymore. That's me laying on business Laying on business. Next we're going to have to have at least one episode a month where we both go see Mariah and come to the and so you guys can see the styles that she does for us.
Speaker 2:Okay, yes, but okay, yeah. So you, what did you love most about the studio?
Speaker 1:Like what, what you love most about the studio? Like what, what did it do for you? I just loved how honest and transparent it was to viewers of what it actually is like behind the scenes of a set, and not even just a set like behind the scenes, like the production of it all. I mean the amount of times that I've seen people walk on set and you could just feel the energy change in the room. It's so insane. And Matt Seth Rogen's character anytime he walks into a room, like when they're shooting or when there's something there, you could just feel everyone's just like, oh shit. Well, so those who don't know the show.
Speaker 2:Seth Rogen's character, matt, plays a studio head here in hollywood and so he just got the job in episode one and it just shows him like detailing the life of a studio exec. It is funny on that, like that one episode at the house. At the house everyone just clenches up their assholes because the studio exec is there making all these changes. You can't say no, you gotta do what he says, even if it like you lose your sunset shot.
Speaker 1:Yep and the sun is setting like that, you can't stop the sun settings. And and then also it's supposed to be this one elaborate, long, beautiful take and he just keeps ruining it. He's ruining it to the point where it's like everyone just wants to kill him. Uh, catherine O'Hara oh my god phenomenal. I mean everyone in it is just phenomenal like and and the way that everyone's uh at different energy you know you got the execs, who are like, you know, like the white girl who, like, tries to act a little more urban she's wearing all her Louis.
Speaker 1:Vuitton and like the Prada she's just like head to toe in designer outfits and stuff and like she's the cool girl Loud mouth and crude and there's always these characters exist, like they really pulled these characters from real life. Yeah, and it's so fun to watch.
Speaker 2:It is fun. It's just a different world. But even like the issues that they touched on, one of the main plots of the entire show was uh, they're making a kool-aid movie. They had to make this kool-aid movie, which was just a ridiculous. I don't know where they pulled that out of, but also I was kind of like I'd watch that yeah especially if you know well they're.
Speaker 2:So they cast ice cube as kool-aid and they were set on this whole situation. It was a go. Then they started building this family and the cast around it, and then they're sitting there and like the drawing board and they're like, oh no, we can't make. We can't make Ice Cube black, that's racist. And so the whole episode is just going down this rabbit hole of what to do in order to make sure that this movie doesn't offend anybody. I'm like that's so on point, like even working in entertainment, like the whole, like diversity, you know hires and making sure that you're being diverse without being obviously diverse. And so then it becomes a formative and it's like are you, do you really care about these issues, or you just care about what people think about the issues? It was so fun to watch them, like it's so fun.
Speaker 2:Honestly, I was like you know one movie that I'll never forget, honestly I was, like you know, one movie that I'll never forget uh cinderella, with uh brady brandy. Brandy, not brady, oh my gosh, you guys, it's.
Speaker 1:It's been a long week okay um brandy who plays cinderella, and that whole cast is so just random, like she has a a black mom and a a white dad, and then there's an Asian prince and it's like it's just.
Speaker 2:they were just like fuck it Melting pot go, and that was the most and I loved it. I loved that and it's just funny to like see them cast trying to make the cast right and then they're like, oh well, now everyone's black we can't have everyone black, and that's what I would love to have been like in the war room for the Cinderella remake and like what they thought about that too, or how, maybe how it like started into what it turned out Because you know there were millions of conversations saying are you sure?
Speaker 2:Well, having a black little mermaid. People are still pissed off about that. Yeah, it just keeps. Or yeah, rachel Ziegler, not being white enough for Snow White Right.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, never ending battle. So you mentioned earlier a scene that happened. That probably happens more than not.
Speaker 1:Yes, there is a scene where they are going to CinemaCon and it's a big, big event for them. And Seth Rogen's character, Matt, is like we're going to have an old Hollywood party the night before, because he wants everyone just to get to know each other better and feel good and unfortunately, he basically drugs everyone.
Speaker 2:Well, it's the Hollywood buffet, as they called it, which I'm like.
Speaker 1:I think that sounds like a great time they have all the party favors, but the one that makes the biggest splash in the episode is mushroom chocolate and Zoe Kravitz's character just goes in on the chocolates because they're just so great and they're so good, not knowing what they were.
Speaker 2:In the midst of eating the the fifth chocolate, she finds out that they are laced with mushrooms and she's supposed to be giving this big speech at the convention, so this is a problem.
Speaker 1:Yes, um and she played. I mean, we, we both had mushroom journeys before and um, so I I know how it can differentiate for everybody, but she played that off. Oh my gosh, it was just so good. Just everything about her. I just love her. I know she's just so great and whenever she's in something I'm like I'm watching it. I know I'm watching it.
Speaker 2:But it was I know, and they're all just on a mushroom just trying to get through it. Everything ended up turning out relatively fine.
Speaker 1:No, everything turned out like maybe we should all like do mushrooms before we have like a big right. You know, next time we film we'll do some mushrooms and see how it turns out.
Speaker 2:I guess, um something else was funny and that there's so many. There were so many good moments in that show I was. I loved that um at the award show and matt was just so desperate to get like a shout out by zoe kravitz to the point he's like back there trying to change a teleprompter before her speech. Make sure he gets a thank you. Um, just freaking. And then sal uh, who was like his under um it's, it's like his assist or not?
Speaker 1:his assistant, but it's like a partner of his and what's it?
Speaker 2:I don't know why I'm blanking on his real name. Everything he does, I love is so hilarious um, but the the whole joke of the whole episode was that entire night, as hard as matt matt was trying to get a shout out, sal became.
Speaker 1:He became a meme of the awards, to the point where they started writing him in the teleprompter and people after their speeches would be like and we love Sal. Like it was just so funny. What is his real name? I know this is bothering me, Ike.
Speaker 2:Barinholtz Ike, Ike Barinholtz Look. I don't know why. I don't know why I should know that I feel like Ike Barinholtz. I don't know why. I don't know why I should know that I feel like I've watched so much stuff with him in it.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, he's been around forever. He's so good, so funny and it's just so interesting because I get it. Look, even on Instagram whenever you have a project, a creative project, everyone deserves their flowers, everyone deserves to be tagged in the role that they played in that project. And you know, for dancers specifically, you know, a lot of times they don't get their flowers and a lot of artists who really appreciate and love their dancers have started to literally tag them even in the caption when it comes to a music video or a performance, and it does make a difference. It does, and so I understand why he wanted to. You know, he just got promoted in the season.
Speaker 2:So having his name? That's how it started. Yeah, so it makes sense that he'd want like credit. Yes, it does go a long way.
Speaker 1:It does.
Speaker 2:And you're the one who put all of this like legwork into her project. To like not even getting a little like thank you, and then all the top of the top people in Hollywood are in that room. I get it. I'd be the same way Exactly. I'd have my feelings hurt, oh and also the end of it.
Speaker 1:she does thank him, but the mic cuts out, the mic cuts out and everyone's cheering and screaming for her and he's just like I think it was his mom who calls him and she's like, well, she didn't say your name. And he's like God. She did, though she did, didn't you see her mouth in? It's like her mouth is right here, so like you can't even see that she's mouthing his name, she just like ADR'd it and then put it out. Oh my gosh Poor guy.
Speaker 2:Great guy, great show. Great show. Definitely, if you like, are curious about what happens in hollywood and studio execs and like, even like scorsese, and like him burying his project, the jonestown movie, which is about the infamous jonestown massacre, massacre, with, you know, the drink, the kool-aid. So then matt's trying to like turn his kool-aid movie into like, somehow find out where to do both, but then instead it's what is show. It was Scorsese's last movie ever and this was meant everything to him and he was overcome with emotion that he was going to finally get his movie bought by the studio, only for them to kill it so that it couldn't be made. Yep, like, I bet that happens.
Speaker 2:I even hear agent or maybe you told me or somebody told me will sign you to make sure that you don't work so it doesn't affect another one of their clients. You're too close with like, too close and like. Oh, I, yes, I did it.
Speaker 1:This is a mess up. I haven't had that happen to me. I don't not that I know of, but I.
Speaker 2:That's insane and does it keep you buried?
Speaker 1:definitely happen, yeah it's just like uh, like uh artists. You know what I mean. They get signed to an agency and they shelf them yeah, you know, and then they can't do anything because you signed a contract. So it's really difficult, but this show was just the perfect depiction of what it what goes on. I mean, there's just so many layers to it too. It's like even, like you know, scorsese asking his lead actor in the film like what he thinks about the film. And oh, no one was. He's like oh, it's so good.
Speaker 2:And then, like he turns around, he's like you need to help me.
Speaker 1:You need to say something. And he's like wait, no, I'm not saying anything. Like you say something. Like they're like he could, he could end my career. Like I'm just the lead actor he's Martin Scorsese.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean? It's just top studio execs are not the head honcho, nope. So, they have plenty of people to answer to anyway. Absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 1:All right.
Speaker 2:Well, wow, that went by so quickly.
Speaker 1:Well, we are going to introduce for the first time the honey jar. I'm so excited to bring her out.
Speaker 2:It's not an actual honey jar. We can probably do better than this moving forward. But actually what was in this jar? I think a friend got this for me. It than this moving forward, but actually what was in this jar? I think a friend got this for me and it was full of like affirmations and I was like that looks like an affirmation jar, so I took all the affirmations and threw them in a trash can, and then I made up my own questions.
Speaker 1:So I don't need them. Oh, Kayla, Kayla, Kayla.
Speaker 2:All right you want to go first. Sure, I actually don't remember what any of these are, so, and I feel like we made this one time ago. We did, and if it's a stupid question, you don't have to do it.
Speaker 1:Okay, what's your villain origin story? One sentence only, oh. I was high drunk when I wrote these, I'm like this is a really intense question. What's your villain origin story? And I can't read.
Speaker 2:What's your?
Speaker 1:villain origin story and I can't read what's in your cup. It's actually just watermelon juice today.
Speaker 2:It's not even alcohol, maybe we need to put the alcohol dot in there?
Speaker 1:I think so we need to start having like champagne again before we end our episodes. So you're feeling.
Speaker 2:one word, that's hard.
Speaker 1:One sentence, only, oh, one sentence. Oh my gosh, I don't word. That's hard. One sentence only, oh, one sentence. Oh my gosh, I don't know what's yours, what is my villain?
Speaker 2:Born. I was born in a prison, given away. That's a good one.
Speaker 1:That's a pretty good orange answer. I don't think I can beat that. I was born and life happened and here we are. That wasn't a good one. That was not a good one. We're just going to cut that one out. We're just going to let Kayla have her. No, we're going to keep that one in there. Actually, that is a hard one.
Speaker 2:Yeah like Do you want a different?
Speaker 1:one Bullied into, I was bullied into this life, bullied into this life and I turned into a villain. Yes, okay, you pick this one, let's see we need to go take. I need to go take like an improv class.
Speaker 2:What's your go-to lie when you're trying to get out of plans? You know it's funny. I've actually gotten really good about just saying I don't want to.
Speaker 1:Same.
Speaker 2:But for a long time I wouldn't make up lies and normally I've like blamed my guy friends. I don't hang out and I say period.
Speaker 1:They're like okay, of course, yeah, um and then women just get it, they just get it exactly um, yeah, typically it's something to do with my, with my health. I, I, if, if I say anything, it's probably just I already have plans even if I don't. I mean my plan is to sit on the couch with my cat, so technically yeah, I already do have a plan, it's just not with you, with you, and you know.
Speaker 2:There's nothing better. And I'll tell you this as my friend I typically get so excited if the other person cancels the plans because I've already wanted to be out of them. I'm never the friend that's like oh my God, why would you cancel? Because we have friends. If you cancel on me, I'm like you just got more points, so I love it.
Speaker 1:It is so funny. Like have you been a person Well, actually, no, you just said it. But like, so, I'm not a person that gets upset when people cancel. Even if it's like I swear to you, even if it's like 20 minutes before I have to leave the house and I'm already ready, I'm like it's okay. Yeah, you know, but I, you know, but I know a lot of people who, yeah, get really upset about that. I'm like no, because at the end of the day, you're canceling and that just means I get to stay home now, exactly.
Speaker 2:Unless it's like my birthday or something like that, of course, so that'd be one thing, but if it's just like another random night, a random brunch or random, going to a bar and our friends are so busy to the point where it's like we have to cancel plans all the time anyway.
Speaker 1:Like, even if we like book a job randomly, it's like, oh, can't do it then because I learned that I'm booked on a job yesterday.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean?
Speaker 1:Yeah, for sure there's just so many things that go into it.
Speaker 2:I'm going to do one more each. Yes, oh, did you hear that on my elbow? Okay, let's see here.
Speaker 1:Hot take.
Speaker 2:Overrated hot take overrated celebrity, go overrated celebrity, overrated celebrity. Oh, that's just so many of them. Jojo siwa, I don't know. I don't know if she's considered overrated, I don't think she's overrated.
Speaker 1:Maybe I don't even think she's rated. You know what I mean. She's, she's, all, she's all over the place she's not even rated yet.
Speaker 2:Overrated celebrity. Oh, if I say that, I can't say I have one, but I shouldn't say it.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I'm going to sip my water. I was going to say this is not sip or spill, vanessa.
Speaker 2:You know, I think it's all like subjective too, right? Not really, I guess that's probably not. You know what?
Speaker 1:I'll say JLo, I wouldn't. I would not agree with you in the past. But I do think presently. Yes, I do. I think I think we got to. You know, she has so many beautiful things that go on in her life and like collaborations and brand deals and all this stuff, and it's like I just don't think you need to perform anymore.
Speaker 2:Well, it's okay to go away and disappear for a while and then come back in like five years with like some banging new material, but she's so overly exposed and she keeps herself in limelight even amidst all of her scandal, like go away, for so people wouldn't like forget why they don't like you. Right, because right, which sucks, because she's been performing for decades and decades and has been one of the number one artists of all time and celebrities of all time and she's always going to be JLo, obviously, but it's like when you start to do the things that she's doing now, presently, it sort of diminishes your iconicness.
Speaker 1:She is an icon and she for always. Yeah, she will always be an icon, but right now I do feel like it's like let us miss you.
Speaker 2:It's like when you're around a significant other too much and you get sick of them because they're always there, like go away and let me miss you. Yes, exactly, all right, we'll do one more. Okay, pick one. Rich and hated or broke and beloved. Okay, pick one. Rich and hated or broke and beloved. Rich and hated. Rich and hated.
Speaker 1:Hate me all you want. Because you are not in my bank account. I will wipe my tears with my hundreds. I will wipe my tears, wipe my ass with my pillowcase with all the cash.
Speaker 2:I will be just fine. Hate me and pay me. People already hate me and I'll already hate you. So which, by the way, we're basically just like kind of contradicting what we said about JLo, because she's got all the money and she's hated.
Speaker 1:So she's actually doing exactly what we would do Touche, touche, jlo. Sorry, we take it back, you know what You're doing exactly what.
Speaker 2:Okay, we just backtracked on everything, so, but this is what accountability is called.
Speaker 1:We grew so much in 20 seconds.
Speaker 2:Yep, yep yep, that's what she said, that's what he said, I don't know anyway. Uh, that's it for this week's episode.
Speaker 1:That was fun that was so fun.
Speaker 2:I love that we're gonna bring this back we are for weeks to come yes uh, let us know your opinions on any of the topics we talked about. Whether it be the beebs jojo, let us know if you watch any of the topics we talked about. Whether it be the Biebs JoJo, let us know if you watch the studio.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so, oh, remember, we are serving the best tea in West Hollywood with your favorite ingredients. Was that good? That was good, okay, good, see you guys next week. Bye.
