Milk & Honeys
Milk & Honeys" is the perfect blend of raw industry insights and unfiltered realness. Like the ingredients that sweeten and smooth out a cup of tea, hosts Kayla Becker (TV host of 10 years) and Vanessa Curry (model and actress of 10 years) bring their own flavors to the conversation— Together, they spill the tea on what it really takes to live and thrive in LA’s entertainment scene.
So, grab a mug and sip on some Milk & Honeys—because we’re serving the tea with all the right ingredients.
Milk & Honeys
Episode 15: Hemorrhoids, Nose hairs and Bad Breath
Vanessa and Kayla dive into the complexities of breakups, cancel culture, and AI's impact on their careers while celebrating personal milestones.
• Kayla opens up about her post-breakup journey and rediscovering herself after a year and a half relationship
• Discussion about how AI is replacing models in the industry, with Vanessa sharing her experience being replaced by an AI blonde model
• Exploration of Sydney Sweeney's American Eagle "My genes are blue" controversy and whether it deserved the backlash
• Critical conversation about cancel culture and how it prevents meaningful dialogue between people with different perspectives
• Celebration of Kayla's 25th anniversary of becoming a foster child and how it changed her life trajectory
• Movie recommendations including the new Dave Franco/Allison Brie horror-comedy and Nobody 2
• Honest discussion about long-distance relationships and the importance of communication
• The Honey Jar question: "Name something that should be embarrassing, but absolutely isn't for you"
Next week: Vanessa and Kayla will share stories and photos from their school days, comparing experiences growing up in Catholic and Southern Baptist Christian schools.
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Speaker 2:Hello everyone, welcome back to Milk and Honeys. I am your host, vanessa Curry, alongside the beautiful, and I just have to say it yeah, kayla.
Speaker 1:Becker, this is only episode 15,. Am your host, vanessa Curry, alongside the beautiful, and I just have to say it? Yeah, kayla Becker, this is only episode 15, and we're figuring out how to introduce ourselves. But, yes, it is us. We are here, episode 15, though isn't it crazy? Crazy, that is crazy, but I'm so proud of us. I am too Again. This all started from one drunken night in Vanessa's kitchen, drinking two bottles of Chardonnay, and we're like we have the gift of gab.
Speaker 2:We should share this with the world. Yep, it's funny. People ask me sometimes what made you want to start a podcast with your friend. Is it because you like to talk a lot and I'm like, wow, is that a job or is that a compliment?
Speaker 1:They're probably so grateful, it's like oh, you're my friend who talks all the time. I'm so glad you get that energy out to somebody else.
Speaker 2:It's not me Yep, yep. And here she is.
Speaker 1:My parents would have been so thankful if I had a podcast growing up, because they'd be like oh my gosh, you shut up at dinner.
Speaker 2:She has nothing else to talk about.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, no I get that.
Speaker 2:But yes, it is because I like to talk a lot and we have a lot to say. We do Get over it.
Speaker 1:But, yes, lots to say, as always, including today. So we have some updates on some people's breakups big cookies, the latest Jordan Peele mind trip Plus. We're also diving into what we think about cancel culture, movie recommendations and, of course, like every episode, we're going to wrap it up with the honey jar.
Speaker 2:So we've got a fun little, fun little day. Yes, let's, let's get into your recent breakup. How's, how's it going? How's the fallout been? How's it been emotionally it's? How long has it been now?
Speaker 1:it's been about a month now, I think since the breakup happened, um, it's been good, you know it's. It's still one of those. I think it's the first like real breakup breakup I've experienced to where, where, when people say, those highs and lows will hit you out of nowhere. Oh yeah, because I've talked about before I've been. Notoriously I try to stay single. It's just a thing that I really love doing. It's my favorite hobby.
Speaker 1:But then I got into this relationship and it was a great relationship. For the most part it lasted a year and a half. We were living together, we were sharing a dog. So I think the harder like I have a hard time with, like it's funny, it's like this twofold thing with me where I'm really good at cutting people off but at the same time, goodbyes are really hard for me. Yes, so I think I still struggle with, you know, in the middle of the day, seeing something that reminds me of he and the dog, and then I get really sad. But I'm like finding myself again, you know, realizing what I'm passionate about finding Kayla. You came to my place recently and you're like, oh my god, this is your apartment again.
Speaker 2:Yes, it just felt I mean, obviously, when there's only one person living in a place, it's gonna feel more, a little more empty, I'm sure, but it just felt more aligned to who you were. I was like, oh, because I don't think I'd ever actually been to your place single. No, yeah, you, we always came to like my house. Yeah, um, but yeah, so it's, it's nice to kind of like we've.
Speaker 1:I've been in her space like three times more than pretty much anybody else has I never really had people over when I was dating him just because we had different like lifestyles or whatever, and, um, we had a couple of joint parties together, but together. But for the most part I didn't really have people over and I live in a beautiful apartment in West Hollywood that I worked so hard to get when I moved out here three years ago. So it makes me really sad that I haven't hosted more gatherings there and I'm going to start.
Speaker 1:I'm going to start having game nights with my friends watching sports, although I don't really watch sports but my friends do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, come watch the big game at my house.
Speaker 1:We know how to cheer on appetizers and the brewskis, and it'll be a grand old time meanwhile me and Vanessa will be in the back taking selfies and not really paying attention to what's going on.
Speaker 2:We're gonna just be taking um content. We'll just be making content while you're watching the super bowl.
Speaker 1:so yeah, so it's been nice kind of having my space back, but I think some of the sadder parts of it are like I used to cook for both of us and now I'm cooking for myself, so that I'm doing a lot more Uber.
Speaker 2:Eats and.
Speaker 1:DoorDash than I should, which by the way is so expensive.
Speaker 1:I wanted chocolate cake. Let me tell you, I wanted chocolate cake the other day so bad and I ordered on Uber Eats from Bossa Nova, the Brazilian place, and I forgot to add ice cream to it. And so I messaged the Uber Eats person. I'm like hey, can you please add on the ice cream? He said we can't do it on our end. So then I called Bossa Nova. They had me on hold, talked to two different people and they couldn't add it either, and they said listen, we're going to send you some free ice cream.
Speaker 2:That's so nice, that never happens.
Speaker 1:It was so nice, but that's where I am in my breakup where I'm just ordering overpriced chocolate cake and then talking to the hostesses at the restaurants trying to get ice cream. Yes, that's okay, so the breakup is going really well.
Speaker 2:That's okay. That actually means that it is going well, so that's good, good. But you also have been a little sick lately.
Speaker 1:I've had a little cold. I think it's been going around. But how are you like when you're sick? Because I know I think I could be one of the most insufferable humans on the planet, even with the tiniest cold.
Speaker 2:See, I feel like I've had really bad sicknesses. Like you know, I had COVID, probably three times that I know of. I just had the flu during New Year's, which was horrible. So when I do get sick and I struggle with from migraines every time around my moon cycle, aka my period, if that's not what you call it.
Speaker 1:I feel glad you're finally saying it. You always say moon cycle and I feel like trash. I'm like when I'm on my period, when I'm on my rag, when I'm on my rag when Aunt Flo comes to visit, on the rag yeah.
Speaker 2:I just feel like my moon cycle just sounds. I still want to give it love in some ways.
Speaker 1:And that's where I go with it. No loving for me?
Speaker 2:No, but yeah, when I'm out I'm out, yeah, like I am out, especially when I have those migraines, especially during that time of the month. I close everything. I have migraine medication, actual pills that I can just pop in and I'll chug some water and go to sleep and usually it does help. But it is weird because even when I take a migraine pill, you can feel it happening, you can feel it tensing up in certain areas where you're probably holding tension, and then your body just feels interesting.
Speaker 2:So feel the medicine working, which is kind of weird, yeah, but you get used to it and, honestly, I'd rather feel it working because I know, oh, it's gonna happen it's gonna get rid of it. You like the medicine, like, yeah it's, it's better than the alternative but like usually, my sickness is if I have like a cold, it lasts 24, 48 hours and that's how mine's been like.
Speaker 1:I think I started feeling it like on winds or sorry, on sunday and then wasn't feeling great tuesday. Yesterday I felt my worst and today I'm like, oh, I'm, I feel better now. Right, but I took mucinex, not the pill, because also I can't take pills okay since I was a kid, I can't take pills.
Speaker 1:I have to hype myself up for it, like when I was little. My parents got so angry with me because I'd have to sit at the counter to take my medicine and it would be an hour before I could actually swallow it. So we start like breaking up capsules and teaching a young kid bad skills, but I knew how to smash up.
Speaker 2:How to chop up those pills, man Chop them up.
Speaker 1:But yeah, I always hated it. So last night I took a thing of Mucinex and I'm like how is it 2025? And how does medicine still taste this bad? Like I would rather just suffer through being sick than have to taste that shit again. It was so bad, that's how.
Speaker 2:I feel about NyQuil and it just makes you super high.
Speaker 1:I didn't hate that part.
Speaker 2:See, really.
Speaker 1:I thought I just all of a sudden I was like walking to the fridge, I was like, but maybe I also was a little stoned too. So I think, mixing that with being Mucinex?
Speaker 2:Well, also didn't you say that you realized, oh, not Mucinex, but Midol. Midol has, I don't know.
Speaker 1:It makes you sleepy. Yeah, no-transcript pop a mitol, which I never take. I normally take ibuprofen. Took the mitol. I'm like why am I so sleepy all of a sudden? And I couldn't figure it out. I thought maybe it was just like my body, um, and then I did research and yeah, there's a key ingredient in that people will take as a sleep aid. My what?
Speaker 2:the hell, what the hell I never knew what the hell?
Speaker 1:so no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no yeah, no, I don't normally take my doll.
Speaker 2:I usually take ibuprofen. Yeah, for almost everything, or tylenol, which is I mean, aren't they kind of, are they the same, the same?
Speaker 1:I get them on advil tylenol yeah advil, tylenol and ibuprofen. They kill pain yeah, that's all I know, that's all I want I know it works.
Speaker 2:Give me two, three, four pills 600 milligram good to go good to go.
Speaker 1:Our liver is dead, but there's worse things we consume that are killing exactly the ibuprofen, exactly for sure uh, anyway, on that note yes, I know you've been busy.
Speaker 1:We talked about that. We're thankful that we are getting a little busier, um, but man, it's been rough, I think, for both of us living in hollywood trying to find work in our industry, you being a model and an actress performer, me being a broadcaster. How's it been? It's it's I've been having conversations with people in the business. How's it been? It's it's? I've been having conversations with people in the business and they're like it's just dead everywhere, right it?
Speaker 2:it is. I mean, I've been getting auditions, which I'm so grateful for. I've been getting in-person castings for modeling jobs lately, so I have hope that things are turning around a little bit, but I, I don't want to wait anymore. Yeah, I want to make, start making my own projects. I want, I know that we know how to write like I, you know, let's write our own stuff. And so I've just been really brainstorming with people who are super creative because, hello, most of our friends are in the creative field, move to the city exactly overpriced, yes, toxic cities, because we all have.
Speaker 1:Now I have a question for you, though I was talking to another model and you've talked to me about this too, about how ai is replacing a lot of models like, like how has that? Been. Is that like a terrifying realization to you? Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2:How does that work? I so I've done. I won't name the brand that it was for, but I did an AI model situation for a company and it's insane. There's obviously no hair and makeup. You just come in, you still try on all the clothes, but I do feel like eventually that's going to change. They're not even going to need you for that, but you try on the clothes, you do a normal e-com day and then when the photos get put onto the site, it's not you, it's a completely different person, that's so weird, I was a blonde, blonde, blue-eyed you in a different dimension, girl I mean I'm kind of into that.
Speaker 1:I mean I'm not all.
Speaker 2:They'd be like oh, I was like yeah, now, now I'm a gemini, not only do you get two of me, but you get like literally another version of me, um, I mean she's, she's pretty, like she's gorge, but I mean, obviously she's not me and um, obviously, the the rate is a little bit less than a normal e-com day, but at the end of the day, I mean, of course I'm going to take it. It's money, I got to make money and if this is another outlet to do that, I'm going to use it, of course. So I do think it's very scary and you know, I've seen, you know, mango just had a campaign that was fully AI. Vogue just released their first AI campaign in their magazine, which is interesting, and I know a lot of people were kind of upset because, you know, vogue is such a prestigious brand that I think people thought they would protect them, yeah, and not do that. But I'm not gonna lie when I saw the ad it's gorge I mean, why do you think these brands?
Speaker 1:I mean, you think it's just a money thing, that reason like sure because also yeah, it is completely just erasing like all like dignity and work and like what we've all been working our entire lives to be like even on tiktok. I'll see news reports and watch a news anchor and then I'll see, oh, this is an ai news reporter. I'm like, and you don't even know, like how, it's so good, but like what? I'm like why we should have been a fucking doctor. But no, not even that. So I'm sure they're gonna have fucking robots, they're gonna have doctors. So is our whole like okay?
Speaker 2:can the? Mothership, just land and just take us all out at this point, because or just like, show us how to like, show us how to do this, like the mothers you know, because you know that they're the ones that are controlling it or just pick us up and just take us back with you yes, I will start at the bottom, on a new planet.
Speaker 1:Yes, I will be a fry cook. Yes, maybe I'll do OnlyFans on another planet.
Speaker 2:Take me to the moon. Take me to the moon.
Speaker 1:Moon OnlyFans. Oh my God, Take me to the moon we're manifesting Boy.
Speaker 2:I'll take you outside.
Speaker 1:Of this galaxy. I'm screaming.
Speaker 2:I'll be your only star. I haven't slap laughed in a long time.
Speaker 1:Anyway, yes, it is really frustrating, but it is and I get it.
Speaker 2:Look, times are changing and it's just when technology first started coming out, when we were kids, our parents. It's like you either sink or swim. You got to learn technology, you got to learn the deep dark web and you have to know how to navigate it, otherwise you're going to fall behind. And that's kind of how I feel too. You know, and I I use my mom as an example, because she is so good at teach me, teach me, teach me. She wants to learn chat, gpt, she wants to learn everything that she needs to know, because she does not want to fall behind and she wants her brain to keep working and challenge her, you know.
Speaker 1:So I'm like if she can do it we can we can keep up with that too that's a good point, because I think we did make fun of our parents growing up like who were so against learning new technology, like when we had the flip phone or like the nokia phone, like the sidekick, the the sidekicks. I grew up in a town that had no cell reception, so we were all like walkie-talkie and we had the beep-beep phones. What, what do you?
Speaker 2:mean it was called Southern.
Speaker 1:Link. What do you mean, wait? So it was just like you couldn't text or do. It was just like it was like a brick phone. And when you? What year was this? Like in real life, like 2000 to 2008. But like in the rest of the world, like 1990. Did you guys Count of 500 people? No stoplights. We got a Dollar General. That was the biggest thing that ever happened to us. Like my mom ran around in our yard with a Dollar General bag on her head because she was so excited about this new huge market that we had.
Speaker 2:That is insane.
Speaker 1:So, that being said, when they were always scared to like move to new technology, I was like y'all just got to get with the times, you're going to be left behind. But now I think, at our age, we're starting to see that we're turning into our parents by then, where I'm like I got the new iPhone 16. And I don't know who maybe our friend Cole the other day was like you know all these things you can do on this phone. I'm like yes, no idea, no idea, I just get it for like the good camera.
Speaker 2:Yeah, even my chat GBT. He saw me opening up my phone to like go to the app and he goes why is it on your home button?
Speaker 1:And I go. Yeah, I said, well, show me, cole, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Show us the way, show us the way. But it is crazy. And you know, like I said, that's why I think, being a creative, even for you and I, we are looking at different realms and different realms. Different realms, yes, but different avenues of work that we can do and that still fulfill us, and even, maybe, things that we did in the past, like okay, let's try this again, Like let's, let's bring it back into our life and see where this can go, cause everything is changing so quickly. And, you know, I'd like to think that I'm a good enough model to that that I won't lose my career completely. But who knows, right? I mean, you don't know, and I know a friend who got paid I think it was fifteen thousand dollars to use whore whore, not whore use her body as an ai for background in films, really, and so and it's uh, what is it in?
Speaker 1:perpetual, or oh and perfect perpetual well, I can't neither one of us said this word forever. It's forever forever if kaylin today we've had this thing where neither one of us can say remember words, phrases or anything. It's just been one of those weeks I was I'm gonna dub. I'm gonna dub it in here yeah, perpetual yeah, I couldn't. I was trying to think of the word research earlier okay, and I, yeah, and I could try to tell her you know, like education, like data, data like percentages.
Speaker 2:I'm thinking it's gonna be some like crazy word that I was not in the spelling bee booklet, and she's like research.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, I know that one, I know that word. But yes, but yes yes, okay, yeah, and you know, if you think about it, I signed a deal when I worked for WWE. I'm pissed that I did it, but I was in a video game for several years. And I had trading cards and I had like merch and stuff and I signed a deal because I kind of forced it down my throat. So it's like you have to sign this, we're going to pay than $10,000 worth of merch.
Speaker 2:But when I think about some, like the other people, I don't know about that, I'm pretty sure you probably sold more than a lot of trading cards, more than I thought because they're all over the Internet like jacked up.
Speaker 1:I don't have any of my own trading cards because the company never gave us any. Like I have like 10 or 12 trading cards, tops trading cards. I don't own any of them because the company like we would get in trouble if we kept any for ourselves that gives to our family because we had to account for all of them. So I've been going on ebay to buy them all but like they're expensive on ebay, she's like the ones I've autographed, so if you, have any of my trading cards and you just want to send them to me just one.
Speaker 1:You're so mean no, you need to have kids or something one day. These are cool like hey kids, look your mom is cool one day exactly?
Speaker 2:you need to put it in a little case and like keep it for keepsake. Speaking of we all we know kayla is like obviously the coolest person. I totally forgot to do this in the intro in the beginning, but today is kayla's 25th anniversary of becoming a foster child.
Speaker 1:Yes, it is my gotcha, day.
Speaker 2:It's her gotcha day, so I got her some beautiful little flowers because today is her gotcha day. Oh my God, this journey for you, I know, has not been easy, and I know sunflowers are your favorite flowers. They are. And Lisa Vanderpump. Lisa, this is her, this is her brand. Should I message Lisa and thank you for the flowers bloom house by Lisa Vanderpump. And how beautiful are these? So they are these are for you, we'll call this like your happy, your happy gotcha day, like a happy birthday.
Speaker 1:This is you know so before we move on.
Speaker 2:I just needed to make sure I appreciate that you know that you know we love on. I just needed to make sure you know that you know we love you and you're strong and that is not an easy thing to go through as a child and I just I'm so proud of you for doing all the work to make yourself understand like that process for you as a kid. So thank you, kudos.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's weird. Like 25 years is one of those numbers where you're like, oh, that was so long ago. People might even hear it and be like get over it, but I was nine years old when I got ripped away from my mom.
Speaker 2:My niece is nine years old.
Speaker 1:She's going into the fourth grade.
Speaker 2:And I looked at her and when you said nine years old, I'm like and I don't even understand how she would have fathomed that process if she had to go through that.
Speaker 1:Even just seeing a nine-year-old. I mean, you remember being nine, right I do?
Speaker 2:but it's different when you see a physical child who is nine years old and think about what you went through.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a lot. Yeah, it was a lot, it was a lot, and I think I remembered everything so clearly because I had to go through so much as a kid.
Speaker 1:Like thing so clearly because I had to go through so much as a kid, like I think my earlier memories probably were earlier than a lot of people's because of like that's what trauma is. But yeah, 25 years ago, taken from my family in Texas and put into a foster home with a bunch of strangers in Alabama and yeah, one definitely one of the hardest things but one of the things I'm most thankful for, because it completely like took my life on a completely different track, like there's no telling what would have happened to me if I had just stayed or lived with my mom's, friends or whatever. And then I was put with the best people Like. My foster parents are incredible. They fostered, at this point, like 35 kids.
Speaker 1:We they actually just texted us a couple of weeks ago, this took in another little boy, so they've been doing this since they were younger than me, which also I'm like, which is crazy. I can imagine being so. When I moved in, there was eight other foster kids, I think, or six to eight at 34 years old. If I had to go home to six little shitty ass, bratty, trauma filled foster kids who don't understand really what's going on in the world.
Speaker 1:and they did that and they've done it non-stop, like, oh my God, I'm just so thankful. But yeah, I am, yeah, and so that's why my tattoo on my arm has the date. But there's a big. You can't really tell because it's old, but it's a big cookie because growing up, on all of our foster care anniversaries, my parents would make us all like our individual big pizookie, big like chocolate chip cookie with ice cream on top of it, and then we would sit around the table with all the other foster kids and we get to eat our own cookie. And then everyone around the table would say, like a memory they had from the first time that you walked in the house. So it was always very special. What?
Speaker 2:was your first memory. I don't know if we've talked about this.
Speaker 1:I don't think we have my first memory of moving in. I think I was just like who are all these people? Yeah, you know, I just I think it was just more like shock, um, but I think one of the biggest things, my family foster family was so big on family dinners every night. It is this giant like 12 foot long wooden table and there was no like. It was very rare that we didn't all sit around that table and I never experienced that it was like before foster care. My mom would come home from her double shift, throw a bag of Jack in the Box or Taco Bell at us. Ayo, taco Bell, sponsor us.
Speaker 2:We would love that. It's my favorite restaurant, double Decker's. It's my favorite restaurant in the world.
Speaker 1:Cinnamon Twist.
Speaker 2:Pepsi, even though I'm a Coke girl. But Pepsi Selena Gomez or Vinnie?
Speaker 1:Blanco, I think, selena Gomez, I think we proposed to her and did a whole Taco Bell thing. That's all I want in this world, oh good to know yeah, I'll keep that in mind.
Speaker 2:Will you propose to me? Well, not me, but like in case you get proposed to another time, one day I'm going to be like, hey, this is what you need to do.
Speaker 1:We're going to go to Vegas, rent out that Taco Bell yeah, the Taco Bell cantina and propose to her there I will be a happy gal no-transcript flight if I can.
Speaker 2:But yeah it's. Look, it's not hard to do a long distance relationship when you do have a healthy relationship. I feel like we trust each other. Our communication's great, but having to schedule when we're seeing each other is like it does. It takes a toll.
Speaker 1:You're both so busy.
Speaker 2:You have all your stuff going on here you have all this stuff going on there, and so sometimes I do think, when we talk about who's going to move, where am I going to move? There, you're like when it's difficult, because I do, right now, feel like a lot of things are happening, a lot of things are shifting for me here and I'm starting to maybe let go of past versions of myself in my industry and my work life. Not to say that I'm giving anything up, I'm just I've we like we talked about mourning past versions of, like your work self, and so I am getting into different avenues of creativity for a job and it's nice and lovely and I can't leave. I just feel like I can't leave here yet, and so that's been difficult. You know, and it's funny, I'm the person that always says oh, I miss you, you know, and for him sometimes he won't necessarily say it back, but I know it's not because he doesn't miss you I think he's expressed to me like sometimes it's just like it's a little too hard.
Speaker 2:It's hard sometimes, like I, it's like like, yes, like we hate saying, we hate having to say miss you, miss you, you know. So it's difficult, but I do think we're great in a sense. We know how to navigate it and, like I said, our communication is great. So if we're feeling some type of way, like I said, our communication is great. So if we're feeling some type of way, we'll always talk about it. You know, we have these therapy sessions is what he likes to call them. Is when he knows.
Speaker 2:I'm about to ask him a deep question, or sometimes I like to have check-ins. You know how are we doing Like, are you receiving everything that you need to receive from me? Like, do you need more from me or vice versa? You know, I want to have that open format where we can be really honest with each other, because I think a relationship is about figuring out what the other person needs and wants, and how can we mesh those two together that it's not hindering the other person.
Speaker 2:But it's funny because he always will say is this a therapy session? And I say yes, yes.
Speaker 1:I tell you me and Ozzy are so similar, I know. I receive stuff, because that's how I would get like anytime. My ex would want to like check in. I'm like why are you asking me this question? Like you should know how I feel. Yeah, he's like no, like I just want to. You know we should just check in with each other. I'm like you know, no feedback is good feedback. Okay, that's what I've always been taught. Okay, back off, let me watch my pictures.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I mean it's it's, it is. It's it's funny Cause, yeah, you guys are very similar in so many ways and so, yeah, but I but, like I said, even if he's not necessarily comfortable with that, he's getting more comfortable and I'm so grateful for that, cause I am somebody who needs to have those in-depth conversations. I want to know, I want to go, want to know what's behind the soul. I want to know, like really what you're feeling. I want to get deep.
Speaker 1:My family makes fun of me, can never be my boyfriend.
Speaker 2:Yeah, my boyfriend makes fun of me.
Speaker 1:But he makes funny but he still doesn't appreciate it obviously he's probably one of the first people who's ever like pushed him in that way too?
Speaker 2:I would imagine yeah, so yeah, like, even like his brother's very quiet, his mom's very quiet. I unfortunately didn't ever get to meet his dad, but I know his dad probably was the life of the party because he that's kind of like what his job was, um, and so I know that he was a lively man. I can only imagine, but I do think it's ozzy and his brother do resemble his mom and like the the quieter just kind of the observer Reserve.
Speaker 1:Yes, sit back and kind of watch.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, but I mean, like I will say, the more drama I see is when I'm at the airport traveling to go see him.
Speaker 1:You ever see like couples fighting in the airports?
Speaker 2:Yes, that's my favorite thing to watch.
Speaker 1:Yes, I have a few on camera.
Speaker 2:Do you? I love watching. Oh my gosh, if you can find them, we should like put them in. I don't know if we're allowed to. I don't know. I don't want to be like we could, we could, we could. Like blur, like people blur their faces in, like the public like I don't.
Speaker 1:I don't like raising. I think comes from being a child and maybe it's how our parents were like if we acted up in the grocery store and he's like you shut your mouth right now, you cry, I'm gonna give you something to cry about. That was that deep southern redneck accent right there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there it is. That's Alabama, that Roanoke in the parking lot. No, you can't have that toy. You wait till Christmas. God damn it.
Speaker 1:But I think, like now, any public confrontations, I feel even if you're yelling at your dog in public I saw that at a dog park I get so uncomfortable, it's so uncomfortable.
Speaker 2:So least Like what's going on. I've had one incident with an ex-boyfriend once where we were leaving a nightclub and it was a normal thing for us to fight once both of us were drinking, like he would always try and start something and I just there would be moments where I just couldn't take it anymore and I would lash back at it instead of just being quiet. And I remember I'll never forget us waiting for an Uber and him pushing me up against the wall. We're like in public, on the sidewalk. It's probably 2.30 in the morning. You know like the clubs are.
Speaker 2:Probably we were in Atlanta, so the clubs don't close, I think, until like 4 or something. Atlanta, so the clubs don't close, I think until like four or something. And I remember this random guy walking past and his arms were like this, up against the wall, like screaming at me. Don't remember what we were. He was yelling at me for and the guy asked like excuse me, miss, like are you okay? And of course I looked at him and I said yes, but obviously I wasn't, you know, and it's just, it's just crazy to think that people can do that in public settings. I think I just froze in that moment Cause I'm like we're in public, like how embarrassing is this?
Speaker 1:Where's this? Like the embarrassment. It's like I'm not scared of you, I'm just like I'm embarrassed that people are watching.
Speaker 2:And you think that I'm weak because I'm not yelling back at you whatever you need to do.
Speaker 1:At the end of the day, you're not the one looking bad. He is no.
Speaker 2:But in the airport it happens all the time. I see people sitting there and they're like well, this is why I told you not to do that, and I'm just. I sit back and I'm like, oh my God, thank goodness I don't think Ozzy and I have ever really like we've maybe snapped like once, but it's not a snap.
Speaker 2:It's not like an argument, it's like something you two know is like a fight. And then you like yes, like there was one time we were going to Japan and I thought he was already in the gate, but he was walking to the gate and so when I got there I had paid for my bag. He's like why did you pay for your bag?
Speaker 2:I paid for it, I'm like, because I didn't know, you know and then, and then he comes up and like gives me a hug and we're like we could just tell we were like a little flustered, like stressed.
Speaker 1:Flying is stressful, especially like traveling internationally and, yeah, traveling with your significant other like that, me and my ex, same thing like I I have this thing where I have. I, when I worked for wwe, I was traveling all the time. I'm a professional airport person, but there there's little things I still do that you wouldn't think that I would do. Like I need to go see the gate physically and then I can walk around and maybe go do other things.
Speaker 2:I need to make sure, okay.
Speaker 1:Because there's been too many times where, like the gate gets changed For sure, and he didn't understand that, and so I'm like I need to walk all the way to the gate Just to see the gate. So I'm storming down, you know, I'm like storming down the moving sidewalk so I can just move faster. You know, just like looking for this guy, and then I see him behind me. He'd come out of the bathroom, so he just went to the bathroom. That's all he did. Stressed out, I was about this. He's like whoa. It's like mama needs a glass of wine and some carbs, and that was like.
Speaker 2:I immediately apologized.
Speaker 1:Of course, it's like a monster, the traveling monster, comes out of you and you're just like, oh my God.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it's hard to put her back in. It really is. I get that. That. It really is. I get that. That happened one time Again. We were, we landed in, we landed in Tokyo, and we were going through customs and so he went before me and you know, there's like double doors. He goes out and then I go and I don't see him. Like I go out the double doors and I'm like, oh my God, where is he? And in my head I'm like, did he leave me? And when I tell you the funniest thing, I look over, like I'm starting to panic. You know, like I'm like I don't know where I'm at, I don't even know what hotel we're staying at. I'm just following him. You know, like I don't, I don't care, I like him to like know everything and I'll just go where you're going. But I look, finally look over, and there's the news, with a camera and a news reporter interviewing him no he was just sitting there.
Speaker 2:He was getting interviewed by a tokyo news station asking him what are you excited for, like for tokyo? Yeah, so I was so mad at him, right, I was so mad. And then I look at him and then, of course, like I take my phone out and like record it because I'm like this is hella funny, like they probably thought because he's so tall and does you know, he looks very, he had blonde hair at the time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's a traveler here from America.
Speaker 2:Yes, exactly, and I just was like not you getting interviewed by the news?
Speaker 1:And I'm over here having a panic attack.
Speaker 2:Don't see it like you'll see it on.
Speaker 1:Oh, see it on. Oh, no, I wish I bet you could find it somewhere. We should. We should search for it because that's really funny. Oh, relationships, well, you know, that brings us into this next uh, topic, movies that we've seen. I didn't. You haven't seen this movie yet. I just went and saw the new. Uh, dave franco and allison brie movie together.
Speaker 1:You wouldn't like it, no I saw the preview and I am not watching it um, basically it's this horror romance comedy about a couple that physically fuses together after getting into some water. They shouldn't have been drinking. It was so disgusting, but it was like I, so I have I'm notoriously dismissive of it. I don't like a lot of. You know intimacy and you know emotion, and so I felt like that was what this movie was kind of trying to like portray, like, the extreme codependence that some couples have on each other, um, to the point where, like, they do become one person, and so I don't know. I thought I thought it was a really, really good movie.
Speaker 2:It's not scary maybe I'll watch it during the day, watch it in the day, maybe I'll watch it after this you should do that, I'll just.
Speaker 1:We have to go to theater, that's it's not, it's just hit. Oh, it just hit. Yeah, no, we, we have to go to the theater.
Speaker 2:That's, it's not out. It's just hit theaters. Oh, it just hit theaters, just hit theaters. Yeah, no, we're going to have to wait until I can watch it at my house with the blinds open and all the lights on.
Speaker 1:But it wasn't scary, but just it was really gross. But it's funny how it just kind of makes your mind kind of kind of go with the message was behind it. Like I'm just trying to find my missing piece, I'm like, why would you want that? Like, are you not whole right? Don't you want to find like another hole?
Speaker 1:and then you two holes come together and you can just fuse a little bit and then you just go about your whole little lives like you want to find you want to be a half and find somebody else to mesh with, like no, no, and I think that's a very like naive and young thing that people say to find your missing piece. Um, but again, I think that's kind of what the movie was about. Funny thing about this movie, though they ripped it off, they stole this film. So real life couple, obviously dave franco and allison brie the whole controversy is someone like gave them this like screenplay or script a while ago to look at it, and then they came out with this movie and they didn't even care to change, like the most miniscule things, like to the record that was played at the very end, which I think is kind of funny.
Speaker 2:So what is happening with that?
Speaker 1:I mean, I don't know, it's all gone quiet, so I'm sure they paid the person off or something. But I'm like, okay, well, that's a real-life couple who did some shit like that. I'm curious as to like how are they as real people? You know how are they actually? Because if my significant other came up to me and said her own, I'd be like you're not the person I thought you were.
Speaker 2:They would do something like that. So I've got some questions for you.
Speaker 1:Dave Nelson, you look really cute on camera. You did a great job with the movie. But I just have some questions.
Speaker 2:That's it. Yeah, interesting, great movie, though. Very fun. Okay, love that you went to a see Nobody. 2. Never saw the first one. I watched the first one right before the second one. It's with Bob Odenkirk and he is just amazing. I thought you were going to say hot.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, no, no, no offense.
Speaker 2:No offense.
Speaker 1:He's got a little daddy thing going on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's dad.
Speaker 1:Not daddy, but like dad. No, you know, he's dad. Not daddy, but like dad um no, it was amazing.
Speaker 2:He's amazing his, his physical, um ability to do these fight scenes and he's doing it and he's doing them.
Speaker 2:Okay, he's doing them. And uh, daniel barnhart and kirk jakins were who choreographed those fight scenes in the beginning or in the beginning in the first movie and even Daniel Barnhart said he was so blown away by Bob's work ethic and how he was able to retain the choreography and do it and they were able to push really hard in the second one for him and it's really cool, even the choreographer, daniel, was given a role in the second film.
Speaker 1:Oh nice, as one of the assassins he did that good of a job in the first one, yeah.
Speaker 2:And it's just really cool, like that's like even like we were talking about earlier, it's nice to see like Hollywood do that sometimes. You know, like to give him his flowers, then gave him a role in the film and he did amazing. I mean it's not like a big role but he did great. He plays one of the head assassins, next to the head honcho woman assassin, but it was a great movie. I did like the first one better, okay. So, that's the consensus for a lot of sequels.
Speaker 2:But if they come out with another movie, because they kind of left it open and we gotta get like a john wick situation. Yeah well, you know what's funny? Is that daniel barnhart, uh, choreographed, oh for john wick.
Speaker 1:For john wick.
Speaker 2:Oh, so he's like he's in, yes he literally has my, my friend and I who were watching it. He mentioned he goes. I wonder if he choreographed like john wick. He and we looked it up and he did and so it's a lot of parallels there and it's phenomenal, it's great like there's there's bus, this bus scene. That's just insane.
Speaker 1:It's so gruesome and gross but the fighting is just incredible okay it's incredible, so I'll give it a whirl.
Speaker 2:I think it's out august 13 in theaters, okay and um yeah, so everyone go watch it.
Speaker 1:It's, it's great, it's a fun film streaming on prime, so if you haven't watched the second one, you can go watch it.
Speaker 2:Yep the first one's on amazon prime. The second one comes out august 13th um in theaters. And it was just, it was so fun, okay, it's so fun yeah, I loved it.
Speaker 1:Watch together and watch nobody too. Yes and uh. Yeah, yeah, we have other movie recommendations, but we got to move through this show.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, we'll just we'll just we'll post about it. We'll post about it, but just to give a shout out like happy go more to his best, I'm sorry we had to say it like yeah, the best nostalgia. Oh, I just I loved it. The cameos were amazing, everything was amazing.
Speaker 1:It was just I mean, obviously, like we said, it's never going to be the like the first one, but it was so close it felt like I was hanging out with your old pals and yes, and I loved what I loved about it like I think a very intelligent way to do a sequel is that I didn't like rely on people to have already seen the first one right bought enough back like flashbacks.
Speaker 1:We can kind of piece it together right, but I still like paying a lot of respect to like, yes, you know the actors that were in it before, people that are very close to uh, to Adam. So, yeah, very well done. Yep, I loved it. I'm gonna watch it again it was.
Speaker 2:I've watched it three times already really. I have. I'll just turn it on before I go to bed because it's just that good. I love Adam Sandler and Bad Bunny MVP of all time. It was so funny he's getting cast in all these different roles.
Speaker 1:He sold the show. It was great. Someone else who's been stealing the show and the headlines that sounds so official I gotta talk about.
Speaker 2:Sydney Sweeney for a minute.
Speaker 1:It was so good. Someone else who's been stealing the show and the headlines. That sounds so official. I know I got to talk about Sydney Sweeney for a minute. She, you know, we kind of all got introduced to her and Euphoria she did a great job playing Cassie, the big crybaby pick-me girl with a nice rack, and then she's like done very well with her career since then, yep, but she's getting under a fire, a lot of fire right now for this american eagle ad. Um, the my genes are blue.
Speaker 1:People took that and ran with it and decided to turn it into this whole, like you know, privilege and talking about, like your genetics and is this racist? And blah, blah, blah, blah. Um, american eagle, said by her. The stock went up. Um, I've been watching and following and like reading all the comments about it personally. I think it's a massive overreaction by people. I think we live in this world of like selective outrage. People just want to find a reason to be mad. Especially you want to be mad at the pretty white girl with blonde hair and blue eyes and big boobs who's?
Speaker 1:getting booked in all the roles? Yes, um, how did you feel about? You saw the backlash.
Speaker 2:I did. I saw the backlash and I don't know. Maybe call me crazy because I'm in the industry, like we're in the industry, so we understand campaigns and what goes into it and all these things, and to me I was like, well, she was just reading a script.
Speaker 1:It's not like she came up with that.
Speaker 2:It's like I'm going to brag to everybody that I'm better than all of y'all because of my genes Like give this girl a break. Yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 1:I mean, I thought it was a good ad, I didn't even think of it that way until people and I feel like as a non, we are women of color, and so I think we could be the first people who, if we were that kind of like we want to be mad about something, would have found a problematic right it didn't even cross my mind. I was like oh, that's cute, you know.
Speaker 2:Question do you think that, like somebody in american eagle made it an issue because, like you said, the stock is up? The sales are up just to get, just to get people talking about it and then I mean, I don't know, I mean even the movie she did with glenn powell?
Speaker 1:anything, wait, was it called anything? Anyone but you? Yes, everyone thought for a while that was all very planned, just to get like because he was dating what's her face. For a while, yes, and then everyone thought that sydney and glenn were together and she just did her podcast about it, about how she was going to come visit.
Speaker 1:She got her like a work, work visa to go to australia and be there and he's like, actually the production crew doesn't think it's a good idea for you to come out here because it's going to ruin our sexual chemistry. I'm like that is completely. They're being told that because they know this. All this shit, tabloid stuff is coming out. It's going to make this movie blow up.
Speaker 2:So there's it's so, who knows, I don't know what to believe anymore, but all I'm saying is that you know, I, I've seen this, like you know, the Cindy Crawford ad for Calvin Klein back in the 90s. It's, it's all. It's. It's all the same, like we've said since you know 1959, that sex sells. It does you know? And I get it like, maybe, if it's specifically for a back to school ad, maybe not the best choice to do it right now.
Speaker 1:They're mad about the sex sales thing. I think it was mad that they felt like you're making this white girl privilege like I've got good jeans, yeah. So like people who are.
Speaker 2:She does have good jeans.
Speaker 1:I mean, you know she's gorged I mean god, if my mom mom, damn it, you gave me hips and you gave me an ass and you gave me no tits, right, and no blue eyes. No blue eyes. And my mom has blue eyes, so do two of my sisters.
Speaker 2:How dare you. Do you think, though, if, let's say, if it was a woman of color who had blue eyes who did this ad, do you think people would have?
Speaker 1:No, I mean you know what. Yes, who did this ad? Do you think we were asking? Do you think people would have? No, I mean you know what? Yes, they would have found an issue with that too, like they, people, and that's what we live in this fucking world of just outrage.
Speaker 2:You're damned. If you're due, if you're damned.
Speaker 1:You're annoying getting on social media every day and people are just mad and that leads us to talking about like cancel culture and how it's. It's so disappointing that people can make a mistake when they're 16, which, around the time we were 16, is when social media started kind of coming up, and so you could have gotten your first twitter account at 16, posted some stupid shit and back then the office was still playing. You could say stupid shit back then and not get canceled. It was just a different time. Nowadays, people, if they see success, they want to get. They want to. They will spend hours. You're trying to find a way to ruin you because they're so miserable in their own lives and and bam, they find it. It goes viral and then you're canceled and you can say sorry to your blue in the face. You can do all of the work, you can prove that you've done the work, but it doesn't matter, because people want to cancel you, they want to bury you and they don't want to let you get back up, and I hate it.
Speaker 2:And you know, or just have have, have an opinion, have an opinion. You can't have an opinion. It's okay like we, we could see things differently, and it's okay like I'm not gonna hate you, you know what I mean like there's a there's so many things out there that everyone sees and it's such a different way, and it's okay, I know that's. What makes the world so beautiful is that we can all have these different opinions, you know. So I, I don't know, I think cancel culture is. It's a. It's like a happy trigger, you know, it's like people who are behind a screen and-.
Speaker 1:It's the woke mob, as I call it.
Speaker 2:They're just waiting, they're just waiting, they're waiting.
Speaker 1:Too many people have too much time on their hands. Howard Stern's show is getting canceled after how many years now, like decades? Like, because I mean the you know the thought process told you know his audience if you voted for trump, if you're a trump fan, stop watching my show. And now people are saying if you are a public figure for the public platform, keep politics out out of it. It's like, colbert, you're getting, you're getting taken off air and taking off these platforms now because, unfortunately, the world is just being operated this way.
Speaker 1:You cannot speak your truth, you cannot speak your mind, you can't have a different opinion. Like I got blocked on social media by a lot of the people I grew up with because I spoke out about, like when the um, when the capital got stormed a few years ago, I was like, hey, listen, we can have different opinions. However, we can all agree, hopefully, that that is wrong. Right, if you disagree with me, then I guess maybe we don't. You know, we know I got blocked by half the people that I know, probably for the best. I mean for the best, but it is weird that those people it's always people on the other side who do that too Right.
Speaker 2:They're the ones who want to be mad at you.
Speaker 1:Sorry, we're not supposed to go political, but all that being said, you know, hulk Hogan, wrestling legend, passed away this past year. I've this past year I've hung out with hulk, you know, a number of times working for the company. He was always very pleasant to me but it was never lost on me that he had said some of the worst possible things especially towards black people.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like I'm not going to say him here, you can google it, but I'm sure everyone knows the stuff he has said. His daughter, brooke hogan, completely like just disowned him as her father even asked to be taken out of the will. She wants nothing to do with him um, which is crazy. I mean, if you're asking that, if you were like you have, yeah, then there's something to be something there way deeper than we even know oh, of course, but I posted on twitter.
Speaker 1:I'm like, hey, because people are like, people just need to get over. Like, yeah, hulk hogan made a mistake, but he apologized, so get over it. I'm like, listen, white people have no place telling black people, when time is up for being mad about what the white person said, that was racist. Right, we, like you, just can't do that. However, comma, I still don't think it's in good taste to be celebrating publicly about someone's death the matter, unless it's like a Hitler or an evil, evil person and you know people.
Speaker 1:Some people think that hogan was truly an evil person. I don't think of it in that way. I think he was a very ignorant person. Um, I don't think evil is the word.
Speaker 1:Um, but even speaking that out on social media, I got fucked just on both sides like we thought you were one of us from the first part of the tweet and then, like you, just you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. Again you get canceled. There's a whole nother thread about me. Like, oh, here she comes, this biracial girl. You know that's the most biracial tweet I've ever seen.
Speaker 2:Great yeah great, I love that. Yeah, it is a biracial tweet, sure, because that's what you are you are a biracial woman, I mean making an opinion about something like sure, but that's not a bad thing, so thank you.
Speaker 1:But the point people just try to find issue with everything and spin it to their own narrative, and this is why the world kind of sucks right now it's heavy, it's really heavy well, anyway, I don't even think half that shit was on the rundown and we're gonna talk about today. But here we are let us know if you agree or disagree. Whatever, we won't block you from the show if you disagree with us we want to hear opinions right.
Speaker 1:I want to learn something new every day. Some of the best conversations we've had it with a close friend of ours is hearing them give us their version of their truth and us being able to discuss it without thinking differently of each other right, and causing a whole scene. We have other friends. If you think differently from them, you're dead to them. So I think I would like to encourage everybody to have open dialogue with your people, the people you care about and learn from each other, because that's the only way this world is going to.
Speaker 1:I mean, it's never going to happen. Let's be honest the world's never going to get back on track, but that's the only way it's going to be on, but it's probably not the right one.
Speaker 2:But we'll be on some track. We'll be on some track and you know, we can try and do our best.
Speaker 1:Literally that's all we can do. Do your best and be kind, Absolutely All right. Before we go, let's do our honey jar.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let's do it. Okay, all right, we'll do one. Yeah, right, just like one today.
Speaker 1:I think one today.
Speaker 2:Yeah, our topics, you know, they just runneth over.
Speaker 1:The cup, the cup, Ooh okay, stay, stay.
Speaker 2:Let's see what we got today. Name something that should be embarrassing, but absolutely isn't for you. Hmm.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, I take pictures and post this a lot. I wax my nose hairs, you did mention that, yeah, and I posted a photo.
Speaker 1:yeah, because, like I, you know, some women, I mean, I think everyone has nose hairs. But yeah, I get, like my nose hairs, you can see them sometimes and so I bought this little wax you can get on amazon. I keep hitting this on accident, this wax on amazon with these little sticks, and you put it in there and you just stick them in your nose for 90 seconds and then you just rip them out. It sounds painful, it's not, it's very satisfying, and then I walk around with just like a clean.
Speaker 2:I've done that one time. I can do it to you. I've done it once. And here's the thing I had such bad allergies because I ripped out all my nose hairs, so I think like all the pollen was just like going to my brain and I had the worst allergies for because you took them out maybe four or five days.
Speaker 1:That's the point. Nose hairs, right, the nose hairs I'm getting. Yes, it keeps it to me. She came as a freak of nature over here. She's like oh, oh, no, I'm good, like I smell everything. Oh, my God.
Speaker 2:We could talk about this like another day, but I do think honestly, like I've had a hemorrhoid before and I feel like so many people do have them like every, every so often, and it's something that people are so not willing to talk about and it's like look, it happens.
Speaker 1:And they come and happen for you, congratulations you're one of god's favorites. Yes, exactly because, I hope you have worse nose hairs than me.
Speaker 2:No, or bad breath.
Speaker 1:If you've never had it, for it at least like let's give them back breath or something. Oh, God.
Speaker 2:But yeah, it's like, that's like so embarrassing to like think about, but it's not. It's something that happens to us, you know. It's like we learn that we have to eat more fiber and not push as hard. That's right, that's it. Don't push as hard. Don't push as hard. That's about everything in life. That's about everything in life. Just don't push so hard?
Speaker 1:Yes, well, I think that's a good note to go on Yep.
Speaker 2:That was great, all right.
Speaker 1:Well, thanks everyone for watching. We've got a great episode. Next week. It is mid-August, which is crazy. Well, it's early.
Speaker 2:August.
Speaker 1:Crazy, which means all the children are going back to school. So Vanessa and I are going to reminisce a little bit about our early school days. Maybe show some pictures of us from back then. Yikes, yep, is that where you're wearing the glasses now?
Speaker 2:Yikes, you're kind of like giving little nerds to get prepared, just to get you prepared for next week.
Speaker 1:And she grew up in a Catholic school and I grew up in a Southern Baptist Christian school. So let me tell you, these stories are going to be crazy. You're going to want to come Come back for that. But yeah, thanks for watching this week and I'll let you do the sign off. Oh, oh, my gosh.
Speaker 2:Yes, oh my gosh, why am I nervous today? To say it and just remember, if you're ever looking for the perfect cup of tea, your ingredients are right here with milk and honeys. See you next week. Bye.
