Milk & Honeys

Episode 22: Beauty Queens, Bad Passengers & the End of the World w/ Kayla Becker and Vanessa Curry

Kayla Becker Season 1 Episode 22

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On this episode of Milk & Honeys, Kayla and Vanessa go full spectrum: from childhood beauty pageants and the culture clashes between Alabama and the Bay Area, to the weird etiquette wars that play out on airplanes (looking at you, seat-recliners and line-cutters). They also open up about surgeries they’ve both had — glamorous and not-so-glamorous — and what it means to take ownership of your body. Then the convo takes a cosmic turn as they dive into rapture predictions and the wild, real things people have done preparing for the end of the world.

It’s funny, unfiltered, and a little unhinged — just the way you like it.

SPEAKER_01:

Hello, everyone. Welcome back to another, probably off the rails episode of Milk and Honey. This is episode 22. Q Taylor Swift. That song called up. A huge Taylor Swift. Q Taylor Swift. Failing 22. Remember? No. You don't know that song? No. When I turned 22, I think it's when it came out, and I was blasting that. It's okay. We're I'm not doing that either. But anyway, I'm Vanessa Curry.

SPEAKER_00:

And alongside my beautiful co-host, Kayla Becker. I already introduced myself. Oh, okay. Never mind. You know what?

SPEAKER_01:

This is gonna be off to a great start.

SPEAKER_00:

We're gonna this is gonna be an off-the-rails uh episode today. We are hitting a bunch of topics, a bunch of stories.

SPEAKER_01:

Talking about pageants, performing, airplane etiquette, surgeries we've had, social media, the rapster, rapture, which we're also here, which hopefully that means it hasn't happened yet.

SPEAKER_00:

We need to talk about like, is everyone still here?

SPEAKER_01:

Like, does somebody my parents are still here, so it hasn't happened. Okay, you know, yeah. So if they're still here, yeah. Basically, we're just getting into everything. Everything. But before we get into all of that, Vanessa, how was your week?

SPEAKER_00:

What's been going on? Uh my week was good. Um, I've just been so busy. I'm launching like a couple businesses uh at the beginning of October. So, you know, we're just trying to get everything together. Did they want to sponsor? Did your business want to be the new Milk and Honey sponsor? I hope my business ends up being our sponsor. Yes, that would be amazing. Um, but yeah, you know, just uh trying to wear as many hats as I possibly can and um do it all with a creative, uh, a love for creativity. Yes.

SPEAKER_01:

And when you're not doing that though, having a little fun, which is what me and Vanessa have done a little bit of a lot lately. We did. We we do this thing, we're like, we're almost like toddlers. When we put us together, you know, we're like, let's go have like a nice classy glass of wine, be home by eight. Yeah. Like the next morning. You know? Yeah. 8 a.m. 8 a.m. But I think, you know, I think sometimes we're hard on ourselves, or I can be like, you know, don't feel good the next day. Oh, I went out and spent money and got a little too. But the world, it's just a really depressing time for everyone. And I think it's perfectly think it's good. Yeah, we get out there and shake our tushes.

SPEAKER_00:

But it's also, we're not even getting out there. Oh, yeah. We hang out our houses. One of our houses. So we this past uh couple days ago, we uh had like a slumber party basically, and just like through my comfort on the couch. We were watching the heat, uh uh Crossroads with Britney Spears. And we were watching all these old movies, and uh, we just like passed out on the couch together, and it was so fun. I was telling Kayla, like, you know, I love doing that, and there's not a lot of people that you can do that with, right? It's like you sit on the couch, don't talk to each other really, but like you're still enjoying each other's time. And uh, I was telling Kayla that the last person I was able to do that with was my friend Ashley, who unfortunately passed away with cancer 10 years ago now, which is crazy to think. But she was like the last person, so it was so nice like being able to share that with you because um yeah, that doesn't happen very often. I don't think I've ever done it. Don't think well, I love that. You've never done it? I don't think so. Well, you even said we were taking care of our friend who just had surgery and we were on the couch just watching something. We were watching like yeah, black phone two. Yes, or black phone or black phone, and uh Kayla just out of nowhere is like, I never just sit on the couch with people and like watch TV.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, because I love to do it by myself. Like to me, it's always gives me a little stress to have somebody come over if you're not super close with them, because then you feel like you have to like host, have a conversation. But yeah, when you get to the point of a friendship where you can be on opposite sides of the couch, be on your phone, and maybe not talk once every couple hours. Yeah, and that's perfectly fine.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, and we're getting there, which is amazing. Even uh our last our last host, our last um guest, David, was like, Are you oh, so you guys are really friends? And he was like surprised that we're like friends, not just hosts.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

I was like, No, no, no, when we don't see each other for a week, we're like going right and she hates me.

SPEAKER_01:

Are you bad at me?

SPEAKER_00:

Check check her Instagram to see if she's still following me. Make sure I'm still on each are our close friends.

SPEAKER_01:

No, but it's important. I think it's you know, everyone should have a couple close friends around them for like, especially during these times when again everything is just so depressing and hard, and just to be able to kind of blow off some steam and remember, you know, remind yourself that we're gonna get through this together. Yes, you know? Yep.

SPEAKER_00:

Um, yeah, yeah. How about you? Did I ask you how your week was? No, not yet. Not yet. How was your week? What have you been up to? It was a week.

SPEAKER_01:

It's it's wild that we're in October now. Crazy. This year is almost over. I think for me, I'm just ready for the year to be over and just have like a restart for the new year. Uh-huh. Because with work and stuff, nothing is really happening right now. Like, I think I'm gonna have to wait for the new year for like my industry to kind of maybe open up some new job opportunities. So um, yeah, I mean, every day I'm looking up, you know, jobs and uh writing and having meetings and just trying to kind of get some the foundation ready for what's to come. And we just really hope that, you know, January of 2026 doesn't kick off with any natural disasters.

SPEAKER_00:

Right. So let's let's let's manifest that. Let's manifest no fires, no earthquakes, no hurricanes, no tsunamis, nothing. Nothing. We don't want any of it. Just going to pee. We just want to start the new year off and kick the ball and get rolling. You know what I mean? I fucking completely butcher that. I did.

SPEAKER_01:

Did you say kick the ball and get it rolling? Is that literally kick the ball and get it rolling, guys? That is going to be our mantra for you say it with so much vigor and conviction. Did you kick the ball and get it rolling?

SPEAKER_00:

You guys get the ball rolling. It's been a long week and a couple days. I like it. Aka just a couple days. It's been a long day.

SPEAKER_01:

Our brains are already shorting. Um oh man. Well, let's kick let's kick things off. Uh we know we're performers, but we all start somewhere. And so talking about some of our earliest moments as performers. Believe it or not, well, you probably believe it because she is now a professional model. We did the little beauty pageant circuit as kids. We were talking about the other day. We thought it could be funny to kind of rehash, yep, revisit what it was like as a little beauty, beauty queen. Yep.

SPEAKER_00:

How old were you when you went into it? Actually, I was a little older. So I started dancing when I was five. So that carried into, you know, a pageant. I think it was just kind of some of the dance moms were like, let's put some of our kids in a pageant, see what happens. And so it was just kind of another outlet for us to go do something on a weekend. Um, I the first one I ever did, I think I must have been like 12. Okay. I think I was in junior high, so seventh or eighth grade. I still had braces. Um and it was for Hawaiian Tropic, which I think they're still around. Okay. Hawaiian Tropics or something. So it wasn't like your school beauty. No, no, no. It was an actual beauty pageant where like people, I mean, you could tell some of these girls, like this is what they do all year round. Me, I just wanted to go secretly because I knew I'd be the best dancer out of like a pageant. So that was my talent. So I knew I'm getting a crown, no matter what. Even if I don't win, I know I'm winning the talent competition, which means I get a crown. And that's all I kind of wanted. As a kid, that's all, yeah. You just want like the I just wanted the crown. Um, but yeah, I I came in the the one that I did, I came in runner up. Okay. So I still got I got two crowns because runner-up got a crown too, and like a big trophy. Um, but I didn't win apparently because I had braces. Is that like why it's like why do you think that is that what they said? Somebody said one of the like the higher ups in the pageant competition had told one of my friends' moms that. Um, that like, oh, she shed.

SPEAKER_01:

Pageant bitches, though, like the ones who run that, like they're terrible. It's all very political and they're all catty. Of course, all those women are like trying to like relive, you know, their glory days through these little girls. And they're course, they're so mean a lot of times. So mean. Like I grew up in that.

SPEAKER_00:

Um how old were you when you did your pageant?

SPEAKER_01:

So it is right after I moved into foster care. Okay. And um, and I had friends doing the beauty pageant, and I was a little chunky monkey back then. And my foster parents were like, you know what? Like, not in a mean way, but like maybe like we try to get in shape and just so you feel better walking on stage for your uh beauty pageant, which is when I was introduced to Billy Blank's Taibo. So I would come home from school every day, pop in that cassette tape, and do that you know, like I still remember, like, huh, huh, huh? Like I remember all of the moves still. And but as a kid, I'm sorry, I can't even like laugh with sound. But it was fun for me because it was like, you know, like choreography. I mean, I wasn't a dancer, but was just a fun. And so did that, picked up some, like it was jogging every day. And within a couple months, I shed like I mean, I was four foot six, probably weighed the same then as I do now. So I just carried it and I just slammed down. Like I got so thin. Not thin, but just healthy. Yeah. So then I went dress shopping, got my dress, and um, I won. I was you did Miss Wadley.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh my gosh, do you okay? If she has a picture, we'll put it up on it. Oh, thank goodness.

SPEAKER_01:

I had I was doing my hair because I'm half black and she hasn't dealt with ethnic hair. So she only knew how to put sponge rollers in my hair. So I'd go to bed, the sponge rollers come out, and then you brush out the curls. I just had this big Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm not black bow and bows, the curls, the sponge rollers were used, and I still had hair like up to here, like a little Shirley temp. But when you brush it out, it just looked like a like a loofah.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Yeah, that was my first experience. And then I ended up, I think I did one more year. Or I guess when you win, you crown the the next year. Anyway, that was kind of the end of my. I saw how those beauty queen brats were, and they would, it was like their whole lives, and they just were crying and just mean, and it's all political or phrases.

SPEAKER_00:

It is, and and it is one of those things where I've heard people um talk about beauty pageants, you know, at the age of 27, if that's their goal, right? It's like to be Miss Universe or Miss USA or whatever. And it's like after 27, they make comments about themselves saying how old they are, and like it's done. Like they they can't compete anymore, which is just so like fucked for our mental psyche. That you're too old now. That you're too old, which you're a spinster, yeah. And I'm like 27 years old is so young. Yeah. What do you mean? But it gets in, it's just it does, it's a very strange thing. Well, I'm glad that we didn't get stuck in it.

SPEAKER_01:

Um I still have friends who well, I mean, obviously they're aged out now, but like did patents all through college and like wanted to be Miss USA or Miss America.

SPEAKER_00:

And they spend like so much money, so much money, so much time, so much effort just preparing for this one day. And I'm I mean, I know I was young, I was in junior high school when I did it, but still I think about it, I'm like I just could never. Yeah, I couldn't, I couldn't, couldn't keep going. What do you think?

SPEAKER_01:

There's something like that you maybe learned in doing a pageant that maybe like you still do today, or it's helped you with just being like poised, I guess.

SPEAKER_00:

Not even that. I think it actually helped me, which dance did this too, and like auditioning at a young age. It's like it's it's always someone's opinion. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, do I think the girl that won did better than me? Probably not, but it's like their opinion. Yeah. Like they they chose her to win. Yeah. So you're chosen or you're not chosen. Yeah. And sometimes it's because you have braces and that person doesn't. And that's the same thing with auditioning now. It's like they may want somebody who looks exactly like you and you're going between them, but they don't have freckles and you do, so they chose you because you have freckles. Or they didn't choose, or they didn't. You know, so it's I think that's what I learned from like the pageant, like the dance world is it's just someone's opinion. But all you can do is go on that stage, give 110%. You're Steph, honey. Yeah, and keep going.

SPEAKER_01:

Did your parents put pressure on you at all in that world? No. Because you've seen our friends probably growing up whose parents would make them cry if they didn't win.

SPEAKER_00:

No, no, no, no. My mom was very honest with me when it came to dance, in a sense, when I'd get off stage, she'd be like, Well, it wasn't your best one. It's okay. Like, you know. Like some of the other. Um, and she would always only say that if she knew how I felt. She always knew if I came off stage and I wasn't like, I fucking nailed it. She she knew my energy. So, but they never pressured me to to in that sense. But like my mom, if I, you know, she would get studio space for me to like practice. Oh, that's so good. You know what I mean? Support it, but not pushy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Would you ever put like your future child in a pageant? Like, if you know, I guess if they asked, maybe, but like, do you think you'd be a upstage mom? Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

I I would be. If if if my kid wanted to be in that world, like of course I'm gonna be supportive because I don't know, that sounds kind of hypocritical, you know. Like, obviously, I learned a lot growing up in that world. So I I'd hope that I can give them some other advice that maybe, you know, like our parents didn't know at the time, like they were all learning too. So, um, but yeah, I mean, if my kid wanted to like act like mean girls, mom. Absolutely, absolutely. What about you?

SPEAKER_01:

I mean, maybe I probably wouldn't like I just think as a you know, a little girl and all the impossible beauty standards, I think I'd just be worried um about them. And I th you know, but I definitely would. Oh yeah, I think so. I mean, I think it'd be fine to go buy, like go dress shopping, and have to pick out their outfits and get all girly and stuff like that. So yeah, we'll see. It's a lot though, you guys. Do you think um being in a pageant kind of shaped or you know, your confidence or self-image? I mean, we're so young.

SPEAKER_00:

It wasn't like we did it like yeah, I don't, I don't think so. Actually, maybe it did, now that I think about it. Like, of course it did, right? It's like you're you're going, especially a beauty pageant, right? It's like it wasn't a dance competition. So beauty pageant was different in a sense of you really are going and competing with your beauty and like a couple questions that they ask you. And obviously, this isn't, you know, Miss USA. They're not asking point out Dubai on a map. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01:

I mean, I hated these girls, some girls' bomb, but some of those. Who was the one years ago? It was the map one. Oh, it was the map. But I don't remember what it was, and I can't find it. It was like, whereas she just kept using like And that's hard. I mean, you I've been like in situations where you just kind of black out and your brain just isn't working. Yeah, you know.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, that's why I don't like I I'm not a good like game person with like people because I do get like anxious, and then sometimes it just blank, I black out, and I'm like, uh, and I know the answer, but then I don't know the answer. Yeah, it's just like testing. It's just yeah, test taking. It's I hated tests, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Um, well, pageants taught us uh how to smile and command, even if maybe we were dying inside and wanted to run and cry, uh, run away and cry. But the real test is small talk and poise isn't on a stage, it could actually be 30,000 feet up in the air. Yep. Vanessa, a few, like we've when we like go over what we want to talk about. You've said it a few times. You want to talk about like airplane, small talk, and etiquette. And I spent a lot of time on an airplane and worked for WWE, like four times a week minimum, which made me hate people. Like I didn't want to, I was not a small, small talk kind of person at all. No. Like, do you like to like have like chat to ch strangers or just like hoody up, headphones in, don't talk to me.

SPEAKER_00:

No, no, no. I know. Well, on a plane, before we take off, I'm knocked out. So no one's talking to me. Oh, yeah. I'm like this, like same, just like mouth wide open. Yeah, no. Um, I have had some good conversations on a plane, but the thing for me is once we start talking, how do you end it? Because it's not like you're like, oh, okay, bye. Nice meeting you. No, you're literally stuck on that plane. You can't pretend to take a phone call to have a conversation. You know, I can't be texting Kayla saying, Hey, can you call me around and like get me out of this? Like, where am I going? Nowhere, like two seats down, you know. So that to me gives me anxiety.

SPEAKER_01:

It is funny how like some people just don't have like social awareness. So they keep like anytime I sit next like an old person, typically they just want to sit and talk the whole time. Uh, are you a window or an aisle seat person?

SPEAKER_00:

Um, I'm more of a window, but obviously I would take an aisle, obviously. But like I'm more of a window. And it's not necessarily because I like to see out.

SPEAKER_01:

I just like to lead my head up against also if if I'm a window seater, which I am, you are not allowed to look out my window. Yeah. If I see you looking out my window, I'll close it. Have you had anybody reach over to you and pull it up?

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, that is infuriating.

SPEAKER_01:

Like it's the worst. Like, what? Okay, who do you okay? Uh middle seats. What is your what do you think the etiquette is? Who gets the armrests?

SPEAKER_00:

The middle seat person gets both armrests. Yes. Point blank period. Yeah. And I give that to them. And I will fight you if I'm in the middle seat and you're not giving me a fucking armrest. Yeah, I'll do that thing. It's happened. I'm in the middle, and I'll I will literally I just feel like planes lately have been getting crazier and crazier.

SPEAKER_01:

You know, however, like I get on TikTok and see these crazy things happen on planes with crazy people, but I kind of want to see that. I mean, I've never got to experience some crazy, you know, person get dragged off a plane. I think that'd be kind of funny.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. I've never seen it, thank goodness. I think I would just have anxiety too with that because we're in an enclosed area and like I can't get out.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

You know, I don't know. But lately, the other day, I just saw a whole video of this woman who lost her marbles on the plane and they had to duct tape her to the seat until they landed.

SPEAKER_01:

Imagine having to tell people that you We're duct taped. We're duct taped to your seat because you couldn't behave. You couldn't be an adult. I've never seen a like a kid being duct taped if they can keep their shit together. Why can't an adult? Right. It's it's like so, yeah, there people are like losing their minds on planes. They are and airports, which makes people think like, should they stop serving alcohol? And I mean, I hope they don't because I like a good airport, get there early to have a few drinks.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I mean, I I go to uh you know Vegas quite a bit, and that's a very short flight. It's 45 minutes from Los Angeles, and most of the time they don't sell alcohol anymore. Like they they'll they'll say maybe they'll have water service, but that's it. And then even like Southwest, I use that a lot. I use them, and they've a lot of times have said that they're not serving alcohol. So I don't know. I think they're people, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

I mean, being 30, I mean the altitude, and then if you have a few drinks, and then yeah, it's a it's a good it's a recipe for some some crazy shit to go to.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. I mean, yeah, I mean, and like I said, like for WWE, you spent a lot of times on planes. What's the craziest thing that you have witnessed on your a flight of yours?

SPEAKER_01:

Um I I think someone died on a flight once, which is weird because they have to just put them back in their seat. It's like a weird thing that they do. And like if I'm, you know, enjoy my flight and my seat partner dies, and then they have to come strap them back in next to me. I think I'd be, I should have like free flights the rest of my life. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And what happens if there's turbulence and the person is dead and just like falling over on you, and you're like, um, you can't even like it. Excuse me. Like, I would I would freak out. Yes. I would freak out. I actually one time on a plane uh was going to, where were we going to? I think it was Thailand. And this guy must have just taken uh too many sleeping pills, but he was walking around the plane and he passed out. He literally passed out and fell and fainted on in the aisle. And you could tell the flight attendants, like they they were, you know, they were a little, maybe they were new, I'm not sure, but they were flustered, you know. So I'm over there sitting there telling them, like, on the floor with him, like we need ice. And you just yeah, I'm just like helping this random person that passed out on the plane. And uh yeah, he came too and he was fine. And even he said he was like, I took a sleeping go. So I think he was trying to walk around, like move his legs, and just kind of like fainted. Fainted, yeah. Which is scary too.

SPEAKER_01:

It is because then yeah, you're up there in the sky. I mean, I'm you know, have to land somewhere or whatever, but like there's not too many options. You can ask, is there a doctor on board? And like every once in a while you'll get one. Although I think if I would I mean that's probably why I'm I'm not in the medical field field, because I'd be like, no, not today. Well, for me, seven o'clock. Sometimes I'm like, I'm not a doctor, but I think I can help. No. Um okay, what about uh rudest behavior? Because I have mine that just pisses me off more than anything is when I wonder if ours is the same. Let's see. So we land. Oh, oh. We land. Oh. We all are exhausted, all of our knees are cramped up, but we want to get off the aircraft. However, someone, Susie, in the back, thinks it's more important for her to get off before you, although she's back in 55C and you're in 22A. But what's this bitch gonna do as soon as he land? And you know what? I can I only for I understand it if like they have like a tight layover. And a lot of times the captain or flight attendants, what do you say? Well, hey, just sit down if you are not in a rush. I can get behind. But no, a lot of times it's just people who just think their life is way more important than yours and we'll bum rush. And I always say something. Like I'm a bit when it happens.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, I am too. If if I see someone trying to like walk and it's my turn to get out, I literally will give them the death stare, not say anything, just look at them. Because I almost want to be like, you're probably religious. Do you go to church? When you go get your communion at church, do you cut the other aisle before to go get the body and blood of Christ? Yeah, because like in church, God forbid, you get up before the pew behind you.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And then, like, we were taught that as you know, I went to a Catholic school. So it's like you're taught that, like, no, the row behind you, you you get up and you wait until that row is finished, and then you get up and you go. So I'm like, sit me.

SPEAKER_01:

Basic courtesy and energy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

It's just, but it's just crazy. People think that it's the world revolves around them. The only time it's okay, like you said, is if you have a flight that you have to. Like, and I'm happy to help people.

SPEAKER_01:

Absolutely. But also a lot of times, you know, there are a lot of flight delays. So all of us are trying to get to our next connection. So I'm like, is your is your connection more important than my connection?

SPEAKER_00:

Oh man. But I will say one other rude thing. Oh, yeah, what else? Which doesn't happen often, thank goodness. I've seen people cutting their toenails on the plane. What is that?

SPEAKER_01:

And that, my friends, is the most fascinating. That's so disgusting. That is so disgusting. That should be on the no-fly list.

SPEAKER_00:

Also, like I don't wear chanclas on the plane. Like, I'm not wearing sandals, I'm not wearing nothing. I have socks and shoes on. Like, I'm not taking I am a I am a sandal girl on a plane. What? Yeah. I mean my feet are clean, they don't. It's a pata sussire. No, but it's just like it's just the floor's dirty. I just don't know.

SPEAKER_01:

I feel like being restricted. If I'm on the plane for that, or if I'm wearing tennis shoes, they're coming off. But yeah, but not like stinky. Yeah, socks. Or not. But normally I have my feet on, like I have put my backpack under my seat, so I put my feet on that. So my feet aren't actually hitting the floor.

unknown:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

I just'm cutting my toenails. At least you're not cutting your toenails. But I my my bare feet are never going to touch the bottom of the plane.

SPEAKER_01:

But also, I'm that Alabama kid who like grew up just walking barefoot everywhere. So that's never I've went to school in Nashville and would just, you know, get drunk and in downtown and take your heels off and just walk barefoot for two miles.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, no. See, I have never walked barefoot on Hollywood Boulevard. I don't know if I'll do Hollywood Boulevard. I mean, Nashville's not much better.

SPEAKER_01:

I I mean, yeah, I was gonna say I think it's pretty, it's pretty in the same space, girl. That is true. That is true. Whatever. You know, you live and you learn. Um, so will you like what does it take for you to like actually say something to someone? Like, I know we all can like give the death stare, but like for it to be like, okay, yo, it's not okay, sit down.

SPEAKER_00:

Um, what about kids when kids are kicking your seat and their parents don't correct them? I have said something. Yeah, I will turn over. I'm not like rude, but I will turn over and say, Hey, do you mind stop? Like, do you mind not kicking my seat? And then if it continues, that's when I will turn back over. Um, and at first I don't say anything. At first, I just go like this. Yeah, like if I make it back. Like, do you see my seat moving? Like, stop kicking my chair. Because I really hate confrontation and I really don't want to have to ask you to stop doing something. But if it continues, I will turn around and I'm talking to the parent first. Yeah, not the kid. That's the thing. You say something to the kid first and the parents get mad.

SPEAKER_01:

But bless you. Wow. That's I think it's the first sneeze I've had on the show. It's been like trying to come out for this like the next one. I was putting it in. If I could tell.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh my god, there it is. Um, but yeah, yeah, that's that I will turn around and ask the parent. And then if they keep doing it, that's when like I turn around and I'm just like, yo, hey, hey, it's me again.

SPEAKER_01:

You know what I hate is like if I'm sitting and there's a kid sitting in front of me and I'm in the window and they're in the window, and they'll turn around and stare at me. And I say shit, I tell this kid, I told one to turn, like, turn around, and I was like, stop staring at me. And then I felt like I was on its level, and then now they love it. Now they're turning around, like you can't like. Well, yeah, it's a game after that. They're like, Oh, I'm not so good. Then you can't like you can't stoop to its level because then its parents gonna be mad at you. Right. I flipped one off. I could see you doing it. I'll do it again, damn it. Uh, but yeah, I don't I'm glad I don't travel nearly as much as I did because it is it just the disappearance, people are just crazy. Like, I love I love watching the videos on TikTok of the airport psychos, but do I actually want to deal with it on a you know level everything? No week?

SPEAKER_00:

No, no, I don't at all. All right, well now we're good, right? Now we're back on track. We are great, you know. I'm dyslexic, and sometimes I put the cards in the wrong space, but at least this is the first time it is, so it took it really 20 episodes where we were working like hard. Yeah, like we were like this is a quick we were in a factory today. Yeah. Um yeah, so here we are.

SPEAKER_01:

I don't know if you can tell. We're struggling a little bit today. This is a little bit of a struggle bus. Speaking of bodies, like let's just stop the episode. Yeah, 28 minutes out of it.

SPEAKER_00:

We can we could talk about beauty pageants and airplane etiquette. Uh no, but I mean, yeah, like even me right now, I'm saying Kayla's line, but it's like Is it? I think so, because we're speaking of bodies, you know?

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, this this is this is your line.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, basically pageants with turbulence.

SPEAKER_01:

We don't always go buy it today.

SPEAKER_00:

We need some structure. Look, everyone's cramped and uh trying to be on their worst behavior for some reason or best behavior. Um, but I think the solution to like our plane problem is that we just need to take private jets everywhere.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, this show is gonna be so successful. We're gonna have a PJ. Yeah, and then we just fly everywhere. Milk and honey's air. Could you imagine having like milk and honey's on the side of Kim Kardashian's? So chill. It was little drills, like yeah, just like yeah, and then like we fly over and like maybe like pour honey on people. Yeah, and we're like, hey, you know, just like pour some honey. Yeah, see, done. Like, give us give us a year or two. Um, but yeah, speaking of bodies under pressure, we're gonna talk about upgrades and the maintenance that we have done to our own bodies. We thought after 22 episodes, yeah, we'd be a little open with y'all. Because I think I have seen it lately, like a lot of like celebrities, the Kurdashians and Jenners, obviously everyone gets work done, but there always was this weird like thing around it where people didn't want to admit it. Like when Kylie Jenner, when her lips all of a sudden went from none to some, she refused to admit she got filler. Right. No, it's just my lip kit, bitch. No, it's not. And that's fine. It's fine, and I I understand it. And so for a long time, I didn't like openly talk about like my cosmetic surgeries, but I just think it is important with the you know, impossible beauty standards for us to be open about it. So funny enough, we've both had the same ones. One would one you won't be shocked by, the other one you will. But we'll start with the one that you won't be as shocked by. Yeah, we both got these honkers done. Yeah, when did you get yours done?

SPEAKER_00:

Oh man. Over 10 years ago. Okay, same.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, yeah, about 10 years ago. Over over 10 years ago. Right before I started WWE, so like probably like nine years ago.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Which is funny because I I broke my nose. I had a Marsha Brady moment in seventh grade, uh, where someone threw a football at me, called my name, I turned, and it broke my nose. Like the football literally spiraled into my nose. So I remember a few years prior to my my um my boob surgery, I did fix my nose. And I remember my friend was like, you should just do Both, if you're thinking about it. But I had to think about it so much. Like, you know, it's it's a big decision. I mean, I know for some people it's not, but for me at the time, it was a big decision, you know. Like I've always been curvy everywhere except for my chest. So for me, it was like, I just wanted a little something. Just proportion. I wanted to be proportioned. Yeah. You didn't want double D's up to your chin. No. And I remember the day going into surgery, uh, the doctor left and I asked the nurse if he could come back in one more time before we went in. And it was me and my mom together. And uh I just looked at him and I said, When you're in there, okay, and you sit me up and you look at everything and make sure everything's fine. Act like I'm your daughter. And what would you give her? And make sure it's not too crazy. I'm not trying to be like, you know, I'm not, I'm not going into porn. I'm not doing that type of modeling and acting, uh, which there's nothing wrong with that, but I'm not. So like I really need you. And he was like, he giggled, but he was like, I got you. And he did.

SPEAKER_01:

I love my boobs. I mean, I feel like if I didn't know, like, you know, now I think that was the whole point. Like, I don't want people to like be like, shouldn't they fake?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Yeah. And and people, like every time I'm at a job, and if I'm with the stylist or, you know, and she's helping me change or something like that. And uh, if she says something, I'm like, oh yeah, I know, like they're they're they're really mine. Yeah, they're they are they're really mine. I paid for them. But she will always say, Oh my god, I had no idea. And I'm like, that's the point.

SPEAKER_01:

Did you tell people like, did you like immediately just open about it? Because we're I mean, I was like an A-cup, so it was like pretty noticeable when I I'm not even an A cup.

SPEAKER_00:

I couldn't even wear a bra, you guys. Like I literally, yeah, it was I was wearing a training bra, a sports bra. Um, which again, there's nothing wrong with that. It's just for me personally, I just I wanted to feel even with my my my bum and my chest. I don't know, you know? Same so um, but yeah, I I told like my friends knew and everything. And I think back then too, it was still kind of taboo to like tell people that you were getting stuff done. But now I yeah, I I'm like, look, if it's something that makes you happy and you're not completely like changing and morphing your whole body into something different that you may not want to do.

SPEAKER_01:

People do it, yeah. If it's about if it's because you want it and you love it, you get it because you love it. Yeah, because it is sad when I see like women whose like partner, like when you watch the Vanderpump rolls. Right. I love using Jax Taylor and Brittany as an example, right? And she had such a cute little petite body. I thought she had a great rack. And then Jax was like, I'm paying for them, so they're gonna be the size I want. Right now, I mean they look, they're so like they were so big. They're so big.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, I'll never forget going into the surgery. Did you have this too where they they fill up the bag uh with air at first? So then they put it in like a bra so that you can see kind of what what's the the most you could get without being a little dangerous. Yeah. And I just remember it was in the room, there was like mirror floor to ceiling mirrors. My mom's sitting behind me, and I'm standing there with the bra on, and they like pump this bag up with air and they put it in, and it was so big. My mom and I looked at each other like and she goes, Well uh what about smaller? And I'm like, Yeah, yeah, I think this is like this. This might be too big. And she's like, Oh yeah, no, I just want to show you this is as the most you could go. Oh, that's good. I go, okay, yeah, let's go like half of that. And she was like, Oh yeah, no problem. But like my mom and I both, I will never forget us staring at each other in through the mirror, like, uh Yeah. No, maybe not. Not it. Not it. Yeah, I asked.

SPEAKER_01:

I was like, I want the smallest, like whatever the smallest ECs is what I want. Yes. So um, what was some of the like maybe a funny like recovery was weird because I'm I don't remember the pain. I know I wasn't a lot of it. Yeah. And I was on all like the pain medications. Absolutely. Um, and I was with my ex, was I? Yeah, I think I was dating someone at the time who helped take care of me. I was always so out of it.

SPEAKER_00:

Um, yeah, I think the like, I think the funniest moment I do have with my mom is I went through my belly button. Okay. So when I got home, I had tubes going up my belly into the pockets, right? To drain it out. Um, so I had like a huge patch over my my belly, and you they you they would tell you just like push a little bit and keep draining it, right? For the first 24 hours. After that, the next day, you just take the bandages off, pull them out, and then you're good. Then you can start like, you know, doing your exercises and things. Well, my mom and I, when we pulled that off, we looked at the tubes and we were just both shocked and not really sure what was going on. And my mom's like, wait, we're supposed to just like pull these out. And so she called, so she called the doctor, and she they're like, Yeah, yeah, yeah, just pull them out. Like, we're thinking, pulling it out, blood shooting everywhere. Like, what is gonna happen? She's like, Yeah, make sure your daughter has like her pain med, and then maybe give it 15-20 minutes, pull the tube out, and you'll be fine. Well, my mom, we you would have thought uh she was gonna kill me like Dexter because she put garbage bags all over the couch just in case, because we really thought that I was gonna start gushing blood everywhere. And she did it, like, bless her soul. Um, and nothing happened. It was fine. It just like nothing happened. She pulled. She was prepared. Yeah, we were prepared. Like, I remember my roommate at the time came home and was like, what is going on? You know, like there's like garbage bags all over the case. That's funny. Yeah, so that was my recovery. It was, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

So you smile, like I feel like your mom has been really good with you with your we'll talk about that with you in a minute. Yes. And also that's that leads us to the other surgery that we had. Um, one of a very random, rare one, I guess. But uh, so the medicines that I was on for my boobs, um, they they constipate you. Yep. So, you know, we all we're you know, you gotta you gotta go, you gotta go. However, when you're constipated, that means you know you're straining. Wow, this is a conversation. Uh-huh. Um, so something tore that shouldn't have torn. And I had to go get my second surgery right after that one because of the meds, anal fissure surgery, which she has also had. Yeah, which is crazy. We are anal fissure sisters. He had t-shirts made. Yeah. Oh my god. It was, I just remember like it was so embarrassing. That doctor's report was so embarrassing because I remember it was this nice fella, and he gets into his office and he has like this like foam thing. It's like, all right, uh, go ahead and lay on your stomach. Yep. And it just kind of like pop like.

SPEAKER_00:

There's a it's it's a button that they push though. That kind of like that you lean up basically on all fours. Like you're laying on all fours, basically, and they're like pushing a button to get you up. And then think of your body right here, and they push another button so that you go like this. So now it's so now your butt is in the air, ready for them to they might be able to purpose that in sex shops. You think about it. I mean, literally, I was like, Where are we in this Kaiser?

SPEAKER_01:

What is that? Yeah, it was so so embarrassing. And because it was such a like an unnatural thing, I didn't know anybody who had had it. This was 10 years ago. Yeah. Um, and yeah, it was just it was just awkward. This is the first time I've ever openly talked about it because there was, you know, shame, which there shouldn't be any shame around that. It was a medical procedure, yeah. Um but yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, it's it's uh yeah, it's it's a very interesting thing. I remember going there and someone was like, Oh, maybe it's just like a hemorrhoid that they can take off right then and there, and then you're fine. And I remember my doctor like sitting me down and then sitting down herself and saying, Hey, like you have a huge tear. We have to go in, and we you need surgery. And I just started crying. So I just I really thought I was gonna go there. So different, different kind of getting your butt done.

SPEAKER_01:

You know, it's not that something glamorous getting your butt done.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, like you're not telling me like your butt's gonna look fabulous after this. It's basically like, you know, and here's the thing, guys, with fissure surgery, yeah, you know, basically what they're doing is cutting even more wherever you have that cut in your anal cavity. This is crazy. Science class. This is science class today. Um, you know, what they do is they like cut a bigger, like a bigger cut around it so that the skin can start to heal itself, you know, and it's like you can't have stitches, right? Because you have to poop every day. And uh, if you have stitches, your poop could get stuck in there. I know why I'm like a kid right now. You know what I mean? Yeah, and I'm so like, no, this is like people need to know. Okay, yeah, yeah. People need to know.

SPEAKER_01:

Something is feeling weird when you go to the bathroom. Just know, maybe it's you gotta go through your anal physics.

SPEAKER_00:

And don't push too hard. Don't push too hard because that's what got us here in the first place. Exactly. Exactly. Mine's actually really funny though, too. I think mine actually happened because I was going through a breakup at the time and I was in the shower. Oh, I thought it was going a different direction. Oh, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_01:

I wait, wait, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00:

No, nothing sexual, nothing, unfortunately. Sorry guys. I was in the shower and I knelt down to cry. And I think I just had so much pressure from crying. Oh, yeah. You know, and you have that that cry with nothing. Full body. And I'm pretty sure that's where it was like, hello, here I am. Yeah. And my muscle was just completely exposed.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, it's like your body knew, like, you're you have you're feeling so much pain emotionally. Let's get your mind off that pain and give you actual physical pain. Yep. So thank you. Absolutely. Absolutely. Uh, why do you think people, and maybe like maybe why do you think it's important, even just have we're making light of this, but just having these real conversations about, you know, whether it's cosmetic or medical, you know, just kind of like erasing the shame that surrounds a lot of things.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, because look, it's like we we all are in a human body that does different things and everyone is different. And I just think instead of feeling shameful about it, it's just it is what it is, right? And and again, it's like we went through it and we got through it. Yeah. So, and now obviously we both know from having gone through that experience that you really have to be in tune with your body and listen to your body and understand her or him or they, them, and just if something feels off, go get checked. Go get checked. Simple as that. Like, I I waited probably like five months before I even like actually went in because I'm stubborn. And um, yeah, I wish I hadn't. You know what I mean? I wish I would have gone in sooner because I was in so much pain to the point where I could not sit for five minutes without having to shift or feel uncomfortable. So yeah, I think it's important. Like this thing, these things do happen and they can happen to anybody. Um, and it's okay. Like you can fix it. You can fix it, you can fix it. Yeah. Uh we live and you learn.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes. However, I do hope that in the afterlife, when our day comes, we can take these, you know, high, high-end pieces of hardware up with us. Yep. Um, because you know, I'm saying that one because that reality has been thrown into our faces a lot the past couple of weeks. Let's get into the rapture that didn't happen. Yep. We were all prepared. We had that preacher in from like Africa who went on a show and said, guys, God came to me in a vision. And as someone who was raised in a religious household, I know the Bible stories, and I know like, no, God said that no one will know the the day or hour when Jesus returns. No one will know. He will come like a thief in the night. However, for some reason, all these extreme religious people decided to throw that out to the wind and listen to this guy who said it was happening what was like a few days ago. The 23rd, I believe, of September. And watch it. So, for those who don't know about the rapture, it's uh the belief that true believers will get whisked away to heaven before the end of the world. Um, and people, God, on TikTok scene. I was loving watching people's videos. People were selling their houses, quitting their jobs, going and like probably saying some really things they've always wanted to say to people, probably like negatively, um, thinking that this was it.

SPEAKER_00:

Jesus was coming back for them. I saw this, this I saw people on TikTok. They had Bibles ready to go with notes for people. Yeah. Just in case if they saw them and they they uh tabbed like certain stories of the Bible to follow to make sure.

SPEAKER_01:

But I think if we're left behind, we don't get another chance, right? I think that's it. Yeah. I think I mean I kind of would rather just wait for that point. Right. Let me just see it happen and then be like, okay, I'll get my chicken.

SPEAKER_00:

But I'm not gonna lie, I did see this one prank on TikTok. That was really funny, actually. This husband, they have two sons. And um, his wife had been like, she did this whole ceremony, prayer the morning of, you know, just in case it happened, and blah, blah, blah. And he took his son's clothes. Oh, laid him in there. And one of them was laid down on the floor. And then the other one was like laid up on the staircase. And so he's like showing everyone, you know, quietly, like in his story, um, saying, Oh, I put uh like Jacob over here on the stairs, and uh I left some crayons as if he was coloring. So he he got he got taken as he was coloring, right? So there's like crayons, paper, there, there. And then his other son was just like on the floor. He laid out his clothes. And so he goes to his wife and he's like, babe, babe, oh my god, like come here. And she is when I say freaking out, she is crying. She's like, No, no, they didn't. Why? Why? And then, like, finally, after probably like maybe a minute of or two of her freaking out, he's like, babe, the the kids come out and she and he's like, babe, it's just a joke. And she is so mad at him. That's a great thing. I watched that video way too many times. I sent it to me because I will, yeah, I will. I was crying, I was laughing so hard. I just was like, this is crazy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

But it just shows how like crazy. I mean, I know, okay, I'm not saying religion is crazy. Again, I came from that, and I know I have my beliefs as well. But just that kind of behavior, even if I'm 100% sure it's happening, I ain't doing all that. We're not selling the house, we're not, you know, just like we're not doing all that. But okay, so the guy, the preacher who told everybody the rapture's happening, went and apologized, this whole apology. But now he's like, Oh, I messed up. Actually, the date is, so now we have a new date this month. I'm like, if you're oh for two on this, bro, like you might need to give up saying, like, there's an okay. But like why would you believe that? And why would you, why would you double down on another day?

SPEAKER_00:

Just be like, whoops, sorry, whoops, you know, false prophet here, my bad. Like we said, people literally were selling their homes and and getting rid of like their cars, getting rid of their savings for this. And I'm just, I we have literally lost it.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, one I saw one woman like gave her kids up or a child protected, or just gave them up or something. So maybe she didn't think they were gonna get raptured. And then now she's like, I can't get my kids back. I'm like, you know that you haven't children. If you're giving-that probably should have gone away sooner.

SPEAKER_00:

Trust me, they're doing you a favor by not giving them back to you. I mean, yeah, there was this one woman too who she was like, when you go up, make sure not to twist your head left or right. You want to make sure your chest is open because you want to make sure you're going up into the sky and and showing God and Jesus that like you are ready to be uh uh taken and you don't want to fall. So you want to make sure you stay straight. Don't, don't, don't look down.

SPEAKER_01:

Just keep looking up. And I'm like, also, we forgetting, or what I don't want to, I think the disconnect too is we die now, our bodies are in the ground and our souls go to heaven. So now all of a sudden, these people can take their bodies with them. Right. I assume everyone, you like if it's gonna happen, everyone just dies.

SPEAKER_00:

But they're also not dead, they're still alive, apparently. You know, like you're not you're not dead going up to the rapture. You're you're still alive, apparently. That's why she's saying, don't move, stay very still. Like, like remember when we used to play stiff as a board, or light as a feather, stiff as a board. It's like that's what I was thinking. I was like, oh, okay, so light as a feather, stiff as a board is coming in handy now because that's how I'm gonna get raptured.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, if you knew the rapture was happening tomorrow for absolute, how are you spending your last night? I mean, we probably have to, I mean, if that's yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

I I probably wouldn't go to sleep. I'd probably just like, yeah, I would just have a party until it happens.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Yeah. What else are we supposed to do? But also, do you sleep in heaven? Because I love sleep, so I might actually sleep to get my final, my final slumber.

SPEAKER_00:

Girl, you're definitely sleeping in heaven or wherever we're going to get raptured. Who knows if it's heaven? Maybe it's a different realm.

SPEAKER_01:

Maybe honestly, oh, we could literally be on in hell right now. You know, this could have already happened. Exactly. I think about it every day. Exactly. We might be in this is hell. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

The things that are we're going through, it but there's a potential that that you're right. Yeah. I mean, right?

SPEAKER_01:

Um, so what happens if finally happens? And you and I are texting, and we're like, oh shit. Well, we're here. Who's your first? Who's like the first person you're calling to see if they got raptured?

SPEAKER_00:

Like, I mean, I mean my mom would be the first person. Like, I would FaceTime like together, my mom, my sister, my boyfriend. Those are probably the first three. I'm like, hey guys, are you in the air too? Or is it just me? Yeah. Well, I was waiting for my name to come up in there. I mean, yeah, you and Kayla. Okay. And Kayla. She's she's the four. You have four in like a whole five four group thing.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh my God, I would be one of your first. Yeah, because you're the only one as like corrupt as I am. So I'm like, if Vanessa got taken and I didn't, there's something off here.

SPEAKER_00:

That's very true.

SPEAKER_01:

It's very true. We gotta make sure we're both going up. We're both going up. Because milk and honey has to be in the next realm. I'm grabbing your fucking pulling you down.

SPEAKER_00:

And then could you imagine just have like a rope, a safety rope, and I just I pull it down like come on, girl, you got this.

SPEAKER_01:

You see a bunch of like bodies going to heaven with safety ropes of like their family trying to go up with them. Oh, that's what I want to do. Kayla's just like, she's just hanging out. You know? Oh my god, we're already like 15 minutes to the show. That's crazy. All right, well, that's our show. I we were all over the place. I don't even know what we'd call this episode.

SPEAKER_00:

I sort of blacked out a little bit on like what happened. So I thought we were trying to figure out the cards. Like, wait, we thought we did so good today, you guys, because we were so efficient when we were putting these together. And of course, like I said, look, if you have uh dyslexia, uh you'll understand. But yes, I I clearly uh, you know, put one of the pages in the wrong spot. So that's okay. It happened. If I was a little sharper today, I would have gotten there a lot faster. No.

SPEAKER_01:

Um, but let us know. Give us uh what's your airplane pet peeve? If you have a page of horror story, a page of picture, send them to us. We'd love to see them. Do you have any conspiracy rabbit holes? Um, did you do anything crazy in preparation for the rapture?

SPEAKER_00:

Let us know. We want to know. We want to know these things. We want to know because listen, like your tea is never gonna be the best tea if you don't have the right ingredients in it. So, of course, always and forever, like we will be the best ingredients for that tasting tea. Tasting. And don't you forget it. A wine tasting.

SPEAKER_01:

A wine taste. Now we're going from tea to wine. I'm thinking it's five o'clock, so it's time to wine. It's time. Thanks for watching, everybody. We'll see you next week. See ya. Bye.