Milk & Honeys
Milk & Honeys" is the perfect blend of raw industry insights and unfiltered realness. Like the ingredients that sweeten and smooth out a cup of tea, hosts Kayla Becker (TV host of 10 years) and Vanessa Curry (model and actress of 10 years) bring their own flavors to the conversation— Together, they spill the tea on what it really takes to live and thrive in LA’s entertainment scene.
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Milk & Honeys
Episode 26: ADHD, Tequila, And Why We Shouldn’t Book Flights After Wine
November in LA is chaos in a crop top - cold mornings and hot afternoons. We unpack the emotional whiplash of a year that swung from sky-high wins to basement lows and what it takes to rebuild without losing your humor (or your rent money).
One of us sold a car to keep the lights on. Both of us questioned if our careers already peaked. So naturally, we decided to throw a Beverly Hills benefit for foster youth. Because why not turn chaos into charity?
We talk money, burnout, mixing business with friendship, and what “balance” looks like when you’ve got ADHD, jury duty, and a car that doesn’t exist anymore. There’s laughter, light therapy, and a few lessons about setting boundaries and letting go.
It’s raw, funny, and a little too real- proof that pressure makes diamonds (or at least good podcast content).
Welcome everybody back to Milk and Honeys and also welcome to the first week of November. We're your hosts, Kayla Becker and Vanessa Curry. And you were all it's very clear we live in California because people dress very bipolar. It is November. It's the end of the year. I'm wearing my boobs out and a tank top, and you're bundled up at a sweatshirt. So wishful. It's just wishful thinking.
SPEAKER_02:You know, it's like it's it's early. We're filming a little bit earlier today, too. So the sun is not, you know, at her hottest yet. So I'm gonna pretend that it's a cold, brisk morning.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, although it is, you know, it's it is funny. Like, I mean, I you've always lived out here, and I lived in Florida for a while. I've never really lived in cold weather places because I hate the cold. Yeah. But when you do look around, like our friends in other parts of the country who are like wearing parkas at this point. Yes. And again, we're dressed like this in early November.
SPEAKER_02:Yes. And that's why when people come to visit during this time, it's so funny. They're in, or when it does get like a little chilly here for us, which is like, I don't know, 67, 70 is cold. Bolt the doors. It is freezing. It is freezing. Yeah, they're wearing tank tops here. And I'm like in a puffer jacket. So it's it's yeah. You know, it's a personal preference.
SPEAKER_01:Yes. It is crazy that it is November, though. We're just coming off the heels of uh Halloween weekend, and of course, that's probably why we're all so exhausted right now. But we're only two months away from the end of this year. And I don't know about you, it feels like this year both went by like really fast, but also really dragged. Yes, like kind of both.
SPEAKER_02:There was like high highs, but very, very low lows. Yeah. Which I guess is that every year though?
SPEAKER_01:Probably. Well, I mean, I think here in California, especially Los Angeles, our year kicked off in the worst way possible with all of the wildfires and everything. So I think it immediately just kind of kind of just, you know, just made the year feel.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. And then to know that the person who actually started that was just like I know. We have any update on that. Is there any like update on that? So no, the only thing I heard was that he was an Uber driver. Well, that like that that that matters, like that doesn't even matter that he's an Uber driver. But that's the only news I got from that.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So for those of them who don't know what we're talking about, obviously the wildfires that devastated California, Los Angeles, California, you know, area earlier this year. We all thought it was like a kind of a natural disaster up until recently when uh a man was arrested, a very young man, 20 and 29-year-old man, was arrested for being the someone who he started the the initial fires, um, which is really devastating to realize that there's a human who could do something like that to thousands of innocent people. I mean, the way he destroyed iconic parts of this city, yep, and all the homes and people that were displaced is just wild. So we're waiting to see what happens. But if it were up to me, I don't know. I say we take things back to the old ages. I think I think we bring back public hangings. That's what I would vote to. Okay. Public stoning.
SPEAKER_02:Game of Thrones style, burn the stick. Okay, I do I disagree with that. Okay, but teach through it. But I yeah, it is it is devastating and just like weird. Like what what would what whatever? What makes you want to do something like that is just crazy. It's beyond me.
SPEAKER_01:Yes. I think it's hard for me to always say, like, understand why why people can be so evil. I mean, I get we have evil people in this world, but I think I mean we're not evil. Are we crazy cases? Absolutely. Yeah, but I can't wrap my head around people who like set out to just do evil things like that, you know.
SPEAKER_02:And just seems like you have no remorse. I mean, I don't know. I don't know if he does or not, but from the photos I saw, it didn't look like he's like, I doubt he feels bad. I'm sure he's just pissed off that he got caught, you know.
SPEAKER_01:He probably is people like this, like serial killers, for example, they relish in the idea that one day someone will know their name, that they're the ones who did something, who did this. Like it's a it's a thing. Not saying he is like, again, we don't know much. I'm I can I'm speculating, but right. There's a good high possibility he knows his name's gonna go down in history books. And that's just which sucks. It does suck. Like, yuck, whatever.
SPEAKER_02:We wish you the worst.
SPEAKER_01:No worse. Oh, anyway, two months left of this year. Hoping uh we have some uh really exciting opportunities and um experiences throughout the rest of the year. Same with you guys. But do you remember where you were this time last year? I know it's hard to even remember where we were last week.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, wait, that's what I meant to look up when I was at her house.
SPEAKER_00:Like, do you guys go through your photos?
SPEAKER_02:Actually, that's like November. Yeah, November 2024. Okay, let's do it. I'm so curious. Let's see here. I'm searching my photos.
SPEAKER_01:Wait, how do I see that?
SPEAKER_02:Um, let's see, where was I?
SPEAKER_01:One year ago. So this time last year, well, obviously, off a celebrating Halloween. I went to the Magic Castle. I was at the Magic Castle.
SPEAKER_02:Oh my gosh, I was at a friend's baby shower, which is so funny because I just celebrated another baby shower like two weeks ago for my friend in the same friend group.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, really? It used to be an annual thing. That's so funny. My little sister was getting married, who's now having her first child in January.
SPEAKER_02:Oh my gosh, that's gonna be so exciting. Being an auntie is the most amazing title I will ever have. It's just so cool. I love it.
SPEAKER_01:I'm an auntie, like but tenfold by already, but this is my first biological one. So, and I've still yet to ever change a diaper or even really feed a baby. I held one recently and we got along really well. And so I feel like maybe, and I'm gonna go into the baby's born in January. I said, I'm gonna come to Austin where she lives and stay with her for like a week or two and maybe jump on night duties and help out, and maybe it's a really good um uh practice in case I ever do accidentally have a baby. Right, because it's only accidental, it's not happening on purpose. It's not gonna be intentional. Um, do you feel like you've experienced a lot of growth since like this time last year? Like personal growth?
SPEAKER_02:I do. I feel like I experience personal growth every year in indefinitely in certain ways, but I do see this year has been a very trying year in pivoting and uh you know adding to the jobs of like creativity and things like that when it comes to work. But even just for me personally and like my relationships and my friendships, I feel like I am doing better at protecting my energy, and I'm proud of myself for that. And I do, I'm like proud of how I handle conflict. I've had to handle conflict not in a necessary just gossipy weird way, but like, you know, trying to build brands and businesses, it's it's difficult and you're always gonna run into conflict. And I've surprised myself at how I can alleviate that situation in the moment. So I'm yeah, that's like something new that I've realized. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:We talked about this on the way over how you've especially this year been creating a lot of businesses and work with close friends, yeah. How that can be a challenge sometimes for anybody, you know, when you're mixing those personal relationships with now who are trying to mix some money together and how to not clash. So that does take a huge amount of growth. Oh, yeah. For sure. How about you? Yeah, just like you, this has been a whole year of pivoting. Um it's like there's been some of my lowest lows this past year because you know, going this long without consistent work and it's like sitting with myself way more than I ever had to have to before, and questioning like if my career is over and if I've already peaked, and what am I gonna do now? And um, so I think I've been able to like kind of sit with that, go through all those emotions, and then now I'm I feel like I'm just now kind of seeing the light. Like, you know what? This is it's like the going out of the cocoon into the butterflying. I don't think I've ever used that. I feel like that is such a beautiful. I think that's a beautiful butterfly in right now. And I feel like I feel I'm just starting to really feel really hopeful about some some things in this new phase of my life. So I love that.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. There's always light at the end of the tunnel. We just have to uh keep putting one foot forward. And sometimes to put that one foot forward doesn't always feel good, but it it is because you're going closer to your goal. But it's it's you know, it's a roller coaster of emotions. It is. That's why it's important to have a support system, and I feel like I really do have that, and I have people in my life at this point where we can have fun together, but we can also buckle down and understand that you know, this is our livelihood, and we take it seriously.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. So and as cliche as it is, and I'm only saying this because I've been binging um the new season of Selling Sunset, and Chris Shell has said this in one of the episodes. She's like, Oh yeah, I forgot about that phrase. But how you know, pressure is what makes diamonds. Yes, which is an unbreakable, what's the word? Stone. Yeah, it's an unbreakable, unbreakable bond between the pressure and the kind of pressure that I have felt over the last year, just on every aspect of my life. Love, relationships, friendships, work. I feel like now I'm starting to like kind of, you know, diamond up. Harden up. Yeah. Oh, definitely hardening up, honey. Hardening. A lot of it just sparkles. Yes. When you move us a little bit, you see that glow. Okay. Exactly. Um well, we were talking about opportunities, and Vanessa and I are really excited. We're gonna go in too much detail uh now. We are normally very chaotic, but uh even amidst our chaos, we do uh know how to plan some things. And so we are working on a really exciting um event right now. The name is still kind of bouncing around. We're gonna call it Raise the Bar, um, a night for foster youth that we're gonna do in December. Um, in Beverly Hills, we're gonna have um music and entertainment and comedy and a raffle or a silent auction. We don't know which one yet.
SPEAKER_02:We're still contemplating because we were talking earlier, saying, isn't a silent auction kind of boring? So should we maybe we should do a raffle because we want people to feel included in the little moments that we're gonna have. Like a loud auction.
SPEAKER_01:We have an auctioneer. You know, we could find somebody. We have everybody with a little balance. Yes. Thanks, guys. We did figure this out with you. We love that you're here to help us.
SPEAKER_02:That would actually really fun. Honestly, I'm sure if we put it on our socials, we're looking for an auctioneer. Auctioneerist. Yeah, an auctioneerist. An auctioneerist. I don't know if that's what that would be, but you know, somebody who does auctions. Yes, I can't talk that fast. That's I can't I stumble over words as I'm reading them.
SPEAKER_01:We have already stumbled 20 times in the beginning in the first 10 minutes of this episode. Yes. So, yes, we are gonna be working on that. And I think so again, we're gonna be working with a nonprofit, and as of now, um nonprofit TBD officially, but hoping to work with um an organization that works with foster youth because we all know you know it's full circle for me, and it's always nice to give back to the the up-and-coming generation. So yeah, so yeah, I love that TBD on those details. Yeah. Hope you guys will buy tickets and come. It's gonna be a really good time. Yes. It's very terrifying that we're doing this. That's never thrown in an event like this.
SPEAKER_02:I haven't either, not this big and not to this caliber, yeah. But I think, like I said, I know there will be bumps in the road because there's always bumps in the road when you're planning something or you know, figuring things out. Um, but uh even going into it, we had our first meeting uh a couple days ago and it just went really well. And one thing I think Kayla and I both have is we're able to know when something is business and like when we have to sell it and we have to sell an idea. Yeah. And I think that's really cool because we're witnessing that as we go with each other. But even our friend who was with us in the meeting just looked at us afterwards and said, That was hot. You guys like really like jump into business and know what you're talking about, and you come prepared and you know, all the while still cracking laughs or jokes and cracking laughs, cracking laughs, crack those laughs, crack them. Yeah, so stay tuned. We're super excited. Um, and hopefully things start to fall into place as they already are, which is so cool, and it just feels right, it does, um, and not forced. So, yeah, the organic of it all is feeling really nice. And I just think this will be a great opportunity also for the Sofitel as well. I don't know, did we were we not supposed to say where it was?
SPEAKER_01:I didn't say it, but I think it's okay. We've we've already we've already nailed down the we have, so we'll be at the Sofitel December 11th.
SPEAKER_02:She's just getting you all the details.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I was actually keeping all those details for myself. And now she's going through all of them. So, yes, you know what kind of appetizer we're having. Not yet. Um soon. Yes, this will be fun. So uh that is our responsible adult update. But going back to the chaos of it all, uh, we want to talk about Vanessa and I like to have a good time when we get together. We've talked and joked about it before. Sometimes you put us together in a room and we turn into toddlers. You can't shut us off. Nope. And I was like, why is it? Like the other night we had after our meeting, we decided to celebrate because it went so well. But we're in our mid-30s. We could just celebrate with like, let's have a couple glasses of wine and go home. Yep. Nope, we are stumbling down my hallway.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, tripping and falling. Yes. We're gonna make a compilation video of all the videos that happen in Kayla's hallway when we get back from an event or whatever. Because this a lot of times I think when we're at events or things like that, we have to we're, you know, we're respectful. We're like not putting on a facade, but we, you know, a little bit. Like we're not when we're just at the house, you know, drinking wine and you know, shooting the shit together, it's it's we're we're idiots. Yes. But obviously, when we're out in public, we tone it down. We told it down. We're not as psychotic. No, we just we're just but we're just like bubbling up inside. Get it out, get it out. By the time we get to her hallway, it's an explosion of like, okay, now we're five-year-olds and we're falling on like I have bruises down my elbow, and I'm like, how did this happen?
SPEAKER_01:Because I fell down the hallway, tripped her, she fell. It was just, you know. Our friend Patty is always one step behind, just filming the chaos. Yeah. Um, but I was wondering, I'm like, why is it that we are like this? And so I was like, I'm trying to find an excuse for our behavior. Uh-huh. So we are both also ADHD. Yes. So if you can't tell in these episodes because we're all over the place. Um, which is also why we probably should never be uh left alone with a bottle of tequila. But hey, I digress. Yeah, I mean tequila and milk and honeys go hand in hand. There's a reason I'm named Kayla. It's like it smells like tequila, tequila. Kayla. Tequila. So this is some facts. If anybody else has ADHD out there, or if you just want to say you are, so you can like get away with this. Um, so that there's a reason why ADHD people can't stop after one drink. So this made our lives make sense. Yes. It's not that we're irresponsible, it's that our brains are basically chemically wired to chase dopamine. So ADHD brains, let's see how I'm trying to make an excuse. ADHD brains have lower a lower baseline of dopamine levels, and alcohol temporarily boosts up dopamine, and the brain wants to keep that going. Yeah. Impulsivity and poor internal stop signals make moderation hard. So basically, alcohol gives an ADHD brain the piece it's missing, so it overcorrects.
SPEAKER_02:I mean makes sense to me. It makes perfect sense to me. All I know is that like I got some chemical imbalances up here, and and certain things just help with that. It does, you know.
SPEAKER_01:But how do you think we get you think should we like attempt, you think, to like find a middle ground so that like we're not because also there was a time in my life I could do that, but then I could pop up the next day and be fine. But the older we get, the harder of course to make those we're still tired from several nights ago.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah, because that wasn't that long ago.
SPEAKER_01:It was like a few days, yes, but we should be less tired now, right?
SPEAKER_02:Right, but we're not, we're not, and that's what happens when you are in your mid-30s.
SPEAKER_01:That's just that's just how in college it was five nights a week. I was getting hair road until 3 a.m. with my friends, going to parties, and never still went to class at 8 a.m. and was fine.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, no, I just think um we just sometimes need to reel it in.
SPEAKER_01:We just have so much fun together. But tell the other one that we need to reel it in, which usually it's me. It is you.
SPEAKER_02:Well, which is funny because like my mom probably would think that it's you, right? And I'm like, no, no, mom. I'm the one that reels it in, okay? Which is scary because I am psychotic. So I the fact that I'm the one that's like, it's time, let's go to post. Like it's time to call it, let's go lay down. Go get your again. Growth this year. That is one of my growths that I've had.
SPEAKER_01:As knowing when to like knowing when to call it. I think also I feel like this past year, which is it should have already been over, but I think because it was my first year or so in a long time where I haven't had to like report to work, take six am flights every you know, it's like I'm having like this late onset spring break. But same thing.
SPEAKER_02:But mine was just relationships. My entire 20s, I was, I was not, I was locked up. Locked up. Like literally, I was locked up. Um, I was caged mentally and sometimes physically. Um, so I didn't really have my 20s. I I partied like obviously when I first moved here, like 18, 19, 20, which I wasn't even 21 yet. And then I got into a relationship that was abusive for five years, didn't wasn't able to like just live and go hang out with my girlfriends and like do all those things. Like a lot of my girlfriends thought that I didn't actually like them because I would always cancel. Oh, yeah. It was like that thing. I'd always cancel, I'd always have an excuse, and it was because of my ex. And then I went into a different relationship that was more mentally abusive for another five years. So my entire 20s. You're you're late. So I am a late bloomer. So I know some people are like so over having fun in certain ways because they just either can't because they go overboard. Yeah. Or, you know, it's they have life changes or whatever, which is totally fine and cool. I just think, yeah, I feel like you, I've I've yeah, I'm just kind of catching up.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, we found each other, which we share the same ADHD brain times now. Now it's times two. So we're just having a good time. As long as we're making our responsibilities, um, we're both working. We're working on, you know, it's like we're we're getting shit done regardless. Yes, but we will find ways to reel the reel it in a little bit.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. I I do we're both still very responsible, which we've after six months of filming together and having to work together and create, you know, episodes and delegate jobs for between the two of us, I'd say we're doing a pretty good job. I think we're doing just fine.
SPEAKER_01:Uh no, this wasn't me like knocking what we're doing.
SPEAKER_02:Do you think that do you think it's an ADHD thing though, or just an us thing? Well, that's the thing.
SPEAKER_01:I was saying, I think it's a little bit of both. It's a little bit of both. Okay. You know, I think I think I was just trying to make an excuse for it. I'm like going on the internet. Please explain why I can't go out and just have two drinks. Why, is it? So it's either are you an alcoholic or do you have an ADHD?
SPEAKER_00:An ADHD side just sounded way better. It can only be two.
SPEAKER_01:No, in all seriousness, we've been having a great time. We live in Los Angeles. There's so much to do, there's so many things to do, places to go, people to see. And um, I think we're just living our best lives because we're not gonna be able to do this forever. Like we're gonna get married and settle down, have kids, you know, baby. And so, like, I think we're living like I think our prime of like the best part time of our life.
SPEAKER_02:And I think everyone's energy level changes different times of their life. I just think ours is hitting right now. You know what I mean? We are okay. Enough science. Okay, I hurt my brain, even though I do love science. Math though, no. Like math can math, can just like go to my phone. Yeah, ask chat GPT. Yes. Um, okay, so let's spiral into something more depressing. Oh god. Like adult finances. Boo. Boo, boo. It's the worst thing about being an adult.
SPEAKER_01:It is the finances. Well, so there's never a good time with it. Like as kids, you didn't have any, so you have to rely on your parents. If anytime you wanted a toy or something, and now as an adult, it's like, man, I still wish I had someone else that was managing my money because I sure as well am not doing a good job at it.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So I had to uh sell my car. She was my first big purchase. My first she was like my third car, but my first luxury car, she was a little Mercedes-Benz. Um, and I was so proud of getting her five years ago. And um, I've I'm, you know, right now finances are a little tough. It's not cheap to live in Los Angeles. I'm not working, my place is not a very cheap place to live. And so I had to figure out a way to keep paying rent for the next several months. So I sold her. So now I am carless and jobless, relationshipless, self-controlless.
SPEAKER_02:But you know what that means? You know what that reminds me of is the I I know you don't like do like tarot cards and stuff that often, but there's a card and it's the falling tower. And it's some people always find the card being scary because you know, the the whole tower is falling and it's crumbling and blah, blah, blah. But it's actually a beautiful card because it means that you get to start over. Like you get to you get to be reborn. It's telling you that, you know, life may feel like it's crumbling, but like they say, you know, the pieces fall where they may, and you know, it all fall into place or whatever saying that aligns with you. Um, but I think that's what your card is right now. It's just like everything, everything is being pulled away and taken away so that you can be reborn. And that's a beautiful thing. Okay, I like that. I'll take that. I think so. All of that I didn't realize, like, yes, that, that, that, and that. It's like that's a lot.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, maybe. And then I'll just get a Porsche. Okay. Finances, right? So good about finances. A girl with no job and money is thinking go literally. I did. I went on the Porsche website the other day just because I really like Porsches. I don't like Porsche drivers, though. I don't know. Have you ever met like a Porsche driver that's not a complete asshole? Do they?
SPEAKER_02:And and also like, do Porsche drivers wear Porsche merch? I hope to God not. I never say allowed to wear Porsche merch if you have a Porsche.
SPEAKER_01:Who's wearing car? Who's wearing car? Yeah, who's wearing car merch? Do people wear car merch? Besides like NASCAR? Yes, and they sell it. They sell Porsche. I mean, I'm sure they sell it, but I've never seen anybody like I would not be friends with someone who I saw driving a Porsche and wearing a Porsche anything. I there's they are out there. You should get me committed if you ever see me doing that. Sit me down, have an intervention. I I would eventually, yes.
SPEAKER_02:That's like like, could you imagine? I mean, I drive Alexis. Could you imagine wearing Lexus merch?
SPEAKER_01:I would bully you so hard. Oh my god. And then she names her first daughter Lexus. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_02:But yeah, also, is it Porsche or Porsche? I hear it.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:I don't know. Porsche, Porsche. Whatever you desire, I'm not judging. So I'm probably never gonna try. I'm I'm not gonna Porsche. I'm even asked and Mark. Maybe you will get a Porsche. No, I mean like I changed my yeah, maybe. Yeah. I mean, like, I want, I'm, I'm my Dululu brain is telling is telling me that I am going to get my G-Wagon.
SPEAKER_01:I love a G Wagon, but I don't know how the how do you park that? I could never I could never I can't park my two-door Mercedes. Sorry, my former two-door Mercedes. I could not park with a camera.
SPEAKER_02:Camera. Camera changed my life. I'm like, I can drive any car. I've had to drive big trucks, and as long as there's a camera back there, I'm I'm good.
SPEAKER_01:What's funny growing up, because I had so many siblings, we rolled around in a 15-passenger van, like a church van. And then my personal car, where we had to go into the shop. I just visualized that. I had to drive the 15-passenger van to and from, but luckily I live like on a farm kind of land. So there was no parking spot. So I could just pull into the driveway. And then my school and you know, and the ghetto wasn't ghetto, but was it a dirt? It was a big dirt rock parking lot. So then there were no spots. I could just pull in. And then there was no parallel. Like I failed my driver's test three times when I was a kid. Stop. Yeah. And one of the times is because I couldn't parallel park. And now I'm many years into driving and I still really can't parallel park. And in LA, you have to know how to parallel park. Oh, yeah. I need to.
SPEAKER_02:I was driving in San Francisco at 16 years old when I first got my license, like from Fremont to San Francisco, which is about 45 minutes without traffic for auditions and jobs and things like that by myself. Yeah, parallel parking on a hill like this is quite literally the scariest things. I would get into the audition and I would be sweating. Like I would have to take a minute, a beat, because it's just like it would just freak me. I'm like, am I gonna fall off this hill? And then when you're parallel parking on a hill like this and you turn the wheel, it feels like your car is just gonna go this fall that yeah. And it is the scariest thing. It's fun to drive, I'm not gonna lie. But like it is the scariest thing to parallel park in San Francisco. And like everyone's hitting each other's bumpers. Like, let's be honest. Like, yeah, the amount of times I would come back to my car and you just knew like this car hit my bumper. Really? Yeah, but no, it's like no one cares.
SPEAKER_01:It's like the culture of SF is like, oh yeah, you're not like leaving having to leave a note that says, Hey, here's my information. Absolutely not. Because everyone's doing it. Unfortunately. Do you think you're would you call yourself a good driver or like a defensive driver?
SPEAKER_02:I am yes, I am very much a defensive driver driver.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I noticed on the way here today. Yeah. We were rushing to get to the studio, which by the way, our drive time to get here normally takes five minutes. Yes. Sunset, I mean, it's 9 a.m. So I get it's rush hour. It took us like at least twice the amount of time to get here. I would say what the hell are people doing? Yeah. I live a mile from the studio.
SPEAKER_02:It was crazy. I'm like, I get it. Rush hour, whatever.
SPEAKER_01:But like, why can no one just go forward? No one could, and that's the thing. People can't merge. Also, this construction, so there's always one lane that's under construction for whatever reason. I'm like, leave it alone.
SPEAKER_02:I will say, you know, who does know how to merge? Our Waymo's. Because we had to merge with a Waymo today, and they were very respectful. I don't know if I should say they or the car.
SPEAKER_00:That Waymo.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that Wayne Hale. Waymo was really respectful and let us in and gave the other car plenty of space to go. Wasn't like trying to knock it out from trying to merge.
SPEAKER_01:It was just I'm coming closer and closer to like understanding the appeal of driverless cars. It took me now, I won't do the Teslas, um, but that's my own because I'm anti-Tesla. But um, I now with the Waymo thing, I'm I think I'm down. I think I'm gonna start doing it, and they're cheaper than Ubers. The only issue with it is like there's sometimes you might have to wait yep a long a lot longer, but and the drop-offs. And the drop like they drop me off like three blocks from my apartment, and you can't be like, oh no, go up here. Right.
SPEAKER_02:You just have to get out and walk. So at you know, 2 a.m. if you're heading home, that's not okay. So that's true. That's what you learned about the hard way. That was one of those nights where you went home and you're like, cool, I just had to walk like three blocks at like 2 a.m. Yeah. It's not I mean, we live in Wii House like safe and not safe, I guess. No, it's getting a little sketchy these days.
SPEAKER_01:We've been seeing crazy crime. Someone got a couple streets over, got held up at gunpoint. Um, so I think it's just everywhere in the world though. Things are just getting scary.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Speaking of scary, you have been summoned to jury duty.
SPEAKER_01:I have. For the first time in my life, have I been uh and I've listened, also, you only get summoned if you are a registered voter. So I don't want people to get this twisted. I've always been a registered voter, but for some reason they've never summoned me. Um, and to be fair, like many years prior, I couldn't have done it because I was always on the road traveling. Right. So I got my summon. I I called, did the call, signed up, said sure, I'll do it. I thought that's because I've amazed like a Johnny Depp Amber Heard case or something, which would be really fun. But I didn't think realize when I was signing up because it's a it's a courthouse all the way by the airport, and I don't have a car anymore. So I had to just reach out to them yesterday and be like, hey, I can't do this because I'm not gonna pay to Uber there and back. And who knows? This could be a week long, you never know with these things. So I'm waiting. So I'm supposed to start Monday. Well, I guess this isn't coming out until Wednesday. So this we're filming this a little bit earlier than the sum says coming out. Right, right. So I will update you guys on my social media after this episode airs. So you're like, what actually happened? But um, but I think they're saying what might happen is they just reassigned me a different date at a courthouse near me. Or they might send me a bus pass, and which would be hilarious. What if they said they send me a bus pass and now I just have to take public transportation to the courthouse? I will literally die. I'm not doing it.
SPEAKER_02:No, that's when you say, actually, I booked a job and I will not be here.
SPEAKER_01:Could you imagine like if I show up to the courthouse on a I'm sounding really bougie, but I just listen, I'm come I'm coming from a Mercedes-Benz C class.
SPEAKER_00:You now have to go to the buttons. But also
SPEAKER_02:But also, not they're not gonna give you a bus pass. I don't know, maybe not a bus pass. But I feel like they might be like maybe a vouch, maybe. And you're not taking the bus.
SPEAKER_01:I mean like we don't take business. You know what? Actually, that could be an experience. You want to go with me? We could take the bus and you know, do some social media.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, sure, I would go with you one time. Because I've never ridden the bus transportation in Los Angeles, nor do I want to, but I will, you know, for fun seeing one time.
SPEAKER_01:And we're not shitting, we know a lot of people have to rely on public transportation. This is no knock on that. I understand. I just mean like I I've had too many experiences, I think, even walking by the little bus stop to where like the people who are getting on the bus are the same people who are like harassing me. Yes. And so I just think for me, it's just a more of a safety issue. But again, I don't want anyone to think I'm knocking people who have to ride the bus. Growing up, I had to do public transportation a lot.
SPEAKER_02:So I wrote I rode BART all the time from my from Fremont to San Francisco because it was easier. But even now, it's like BART is really scary in the Bay Area. So it's just even that, like my family, we don't take that. Like we have to drive because there's just a lot of things that are going around.
SPEAKER_01:People are just people are just nuts. And then going back to me doing this all by the airport, you know, like how much transportation hours I'm gonna have to spend there and back and sitting on a jury duty for how many hours? And I was questioning the food situation, and I was like, are they gonna like cater us lunch? Again, I haven't done this. They said there's vending machines on the fourth floor. Not cater lunch. Could you imagine the government? I thought I was gonna get a cater lunch from like at least Panera. That's why you said yes. Let's be honest. Hell yeah. Sign me up. So, yes, TBD. We'll see if I end up doing jury duty. I'm sure eventually. And you think it's everybody's civic duty to do jury duty when you are summoned, unless you have a reason you can't go. Also, hope everyone's voting. Yes.
SPEAKER_02:And that's all that's what I'm saying. Very importante. Um, what's like an adult responsibility that you still don't know how to do? Um, well, parallel parking. That is a that's very adult.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, like we gotta, we gotta learn. Well, I can teach you. Oh my god, because you do like a channel. Because I'm pretty driving school with me. We go to like a parking lot somewhere, and we teach you. We turn milk and honeys into like a simple life. We'll put the student driver on the background on the back of the thing. Yes. What about you? Um I still don't know. Like, I mean, no, no one really has checkbooks anymore. I never learned how to balance a checkbook.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, yeah, no, no, no. I didn't know how to balance it. Sometimes I would write it on the back, but like I don't know what that meant. You know, I only used checks at uh to pay my rent. Yeah. Back in the day. Like I could be a cashier's check or something if I had to do that. And the only reason, yeah, the only other checks I do is if I'm doing my like quarterlies for taxes. Because I do I put in quarterlies um as the year goes. That's the only thing. Which I could do it online. It's just, I think I've done it for so long. It's just easier. It's just easier for me to do it and send it in with a check. And do you do you do so you don't do your own taxes? Or is that the way you that's the way you do them? Let's just do it like that. I don't do my own taxes. I have a tax guy for the end of the year, but every quarter I send money to the IRS so that I'm paying my dues basically. So I don't have to own it and owe a ton, which I've been in that situation many times. Yeah, it was scary. I'll never forget. There was one year I think my mom called me and told me that I I owed$13,000. Cause like we we did our tax, we do our taxes with the family tax guys. Like my whole family goes to him. And so when she called me and told me that, I immediately started bawling and crying. And my boyfriend at the time was sitting on the couch and he thought someone died. Oh, it was that kind of cry. It was that kind of cry. Oh, wow. I get it. I get it. Oh my god, it was so terrifying. I was like, I'm sorry, what and where and how? And who's paying this?
SPEAKER_01:Who's paying this? It's not me. You look on a payment plan? Yes. Yeah, that happened to me. I got audited years ago when I was not making that much money, but it came through and I would, it was a$20,000 bill. And I was like, what happened? Well, what happened was I did my own taxes that year by myself, and um I had gone from being an independent contractor and then halfway through the year. No, I was an independent contractor, then halfway through the year, turned into an employee. And so I was visiting my friend in DC. We're about to go skiing. I was a little drunk. I was like, I'm just gonna do my taxes and turbo tax in the back of his car on the way. And I forgot to report the first half of the year and only reported the W-2. And it took the IRS, sometimes it'll take them several years. Yes. It took two or three years. I'd already forgotten about that. For sure. And I was still broke and I got that$20,000 bill. And when I attended, I just collapsed in my living room because I ever at that time, like everything was going wrong financially. I'm like, I don't know how I'm going to ever pay this. Yep. And I got a payment plan, eventually paid it. And um, it's terrifying.
SPEAKER_02:Terrifying. That was terrifying. I've been audited once, and that was terrifying. Luckily, like nothing came about it, and I was able to like show whatever I needed to show at the time. But it is scary. It is it is so scary. Yeah, that's why I don't, I'm not doing I'm not doing my taxes.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I hired a guy since then, and I've always had my yeah, that way if anything goes wrong, it's on them, it's not on us. Yes, that's the protection aspect of it, right?
SPEAKER_02:So don't do your taxes if you really don't know what you're doing. Don't do the tie back to somebody drunk. Yeah, absolutely not. And also, like, don't book flights because like I I booked a friend's flight the other day when we were drinking and booked the completely wrong flight. Thank goodness she uh realized that I to be fair, I did tell her I shouldn't be booking this right now. Cause like I don't know, I don't know if I'm actually paying attention or if I'm actually doing this right. And she just kept saying, just do it now, otherwise I'm not gonna do it. And I'm like, okay, you know, trying trying to help, be helpful. And uh yeah, booked her the wrong ticket. And was it the wrong day or the wrong place? It was the wrong flight, but same location in the same location and everything. It was just the wrong flight that not everyone else was on. I see. And so she was like, she was gonna be traveling for like 11 hours by herself and do a pit stop in like uh Atlanta, and we're not doing a pit stop in Atlanta. It was just it was yeah, so luckily she at the time bought the more expensive flight, so she was able to cancel.
SPEAKER_01:Thank God, could you imagine? I mean, she'd still be getting there, it'd just be a whole it would just a lot longer to get there.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, so yeah, um taxes while drinking, no, and probably don't do any adult responsibility things when you're drinking, just wait till the next morning. Yes, that's not yeah, that's have the conversation, send yourself a text, yes, and then leave it on unread. Yeah, and so that you're reminded the next day when you open up your texts and you're like, Oh, I have to book never thought about doing that. That's my friend, our friend Sean taught me that. He was like, he was like, I do it all the time when I have to remember something. Cause sometimes he said, I don't always go to my notes.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And I don't either. I'm trying to get better at always opening up my notes. What is my to-do's list? What do I need to do? Um, but the text, you're always going to go to your text messages. Yeah. So it's a great way to remember what you need to do without having to go and open another app.
SPEAKER_01:And that way, yeah, it's just in your face, reminding you. Yes, exactly. Um, well, before we close this episode, I just wanted to um go into a little something that you and I have been talking about too, which is maybe something that a lot of you can relate to. I know you've been talking about absorbing people's energy, you've been feeling people's energy uh more than usual. Um, and I'm sure if this happens without you even meaning to, that's just kind of your personality. And I noticed that the other day when you came in, you just felt normally she's the most bubbly person ever, no matter how exhausted she is, but we all kind of felt like, oh, something's going so something's going on.
SPEAKER_02:So uh like what do you think the kind of the catalyst is for I think for me it's really creating a balance of having alone time and reflection. And like I said before, if I'm so busy to the point where I am sort of lacking in my meditation or journaling and writing the things that I'm grateful for like every day, blah blah blah, um, I think I absorb people's energy a lot more. Or I don't know, like there's something about meditating and journaling that really let me let things go. And so I feel like if I'm not doing that, or if a few days I don't meditate, I think it's easier for me to get worked up. Yeah. It's we I mean it's not weird. I mean, meditation is a very powerful tool. So when you are used to using it and you don't use it for a while, then I feel that.
SPEAKER_01:I wonder what it is though. I feel like there's some people, and I could be that way too, who really feeds off other people's energies. Like even if I like with my ex, he could have been fine. Nothing's going on with him. But if I feel his mood is off, then now I'm in a bad mood too. Right. Although nothing's wrong. Right. And I'm like, no, I've like it's just I feed off of other people's energies. Yes. Not everybody's like that. I wonder what it is. I don't know if there's something you can change in that. Maybe it's not a bad thing either. I think it's I think it's also being an empath. Like I think it's being very open to how other people are feeling.
SPEAKER_02:Exactly. That's what it is. It's like everyone has good days and bad days. And so I I don't know. There's just something about my mom's always told me I I've always worn my emotions on my sleeve. So it's a blessing and a curse because A, yes, I am always being honest, even if I don't want to be, because you can just feel it. It exudes out of my pores, I think, when I'm like not happy or happy. Um so, but it is a downfall because then I can't like fake it when I need to sometimes, you know. That's okay. That's okay. But that's why I love like, you know, my friends, because they know, and then they make me feel better. You know, they let me like vent for two seconds and uh get it out and shake it out. And we like shake our hands, take some deep breaths, and we're like, all right, let's go kill this meeting. And we did. Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, take that, take that. And like you said earlier at the beginning, like it's very important to prioritize your alone time. It's okay to be like, hey, I don't want to be around. I mean, I've we've done that with each other, right? Like, I just really need to be alone, um, which is probably what's gonna happen after we're done filming today because I feel like that's how I'm that's how I've been kind of feeling. So I don't think like, don't ever feel bad for asking the people who are close to you to like leave you alone because if they do love you, they'll completely understand and respect you. Absolutely. And then that's how I think you're able to kind of reset and come back fresher than ever.
SPEAKER_02:So absolutely.
SPEAKER_01:In the next couple months for the rest of this year, I think we should all prioritize our mental health and so that we can come back in the new year fresher than ever. So let's wrap with something lighter. Yes. How do you want the rest of the year to feel? We've got two months left in 2025. What do you want these last few months to look like?
SPEAKER_02:I want these last few months to look like growth. More growth, more growth, like never stop growing. I just feel like we are growing very quickly right now, and I even milk and honeys, but I think a lot of things around us as well. And I think opportunities are on their way for us. And I just yeah, and I just want to like keep growing with you as a as a brand, as a business, as a partner, and just see where we can take this.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, for sure. I what about you? I I second that. Yeah, that's exactly the growth and just like staying, maintaining positivity and trying to stay out of the pessimistic side of my brain, which has been what I've been struggling with. So just like listen, we are in a great place. We are doing things people could only have dreamed to be doing. We have been so blessed and fortunate to have the lives and careers and opportunities we have. Yes, it's just a little bit of a lull, but I like you know what you said earlier. If everything feels like it's falling, we can only just rebuild. So that's what I'm hoping for. Is there anything we want to let go before we step into the new year? I'd say toxicity, toxic relationships that don't need to be there. Um, I think I'm gonna really start letting go of anybody or anything that's not serving me.
SPEAKER_02:Yes. I'm gonna say uh lack of I well, how would I say this? Time, I want to be better with like time management in a sense of doing projects, not necessarily being on time. I mean, obviously I I do need to get better at being on time, which I am. You are even today. I was at her place at like 831. You know, it was supposed to be there at 830. So 831. But I just I think I want to get better at, or I don't know, maybe focus, like how what what would I what would I let go of for that? Um well, maybe just like letting go of a cluttered brain, I guess. Clutter brain, I like that. And and being more organized. So like prioritizing scatter brain. I want to get rid of the scatter brain of what I go through sometimes and really be able to be that person that like makes that list and gets the list done. Because when I do do that, it feels so good. Yeah, it does.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, it feels so good. That's what when you can knock out a list. I like to do little bubbles on my thing. And I can click those, even grocery shopping. I love like you know, clicking off the bubbles.
SPEAKER_02:Exactly. So I know, I know it fulfills it makes my it fulfills my soul.
SPEAKER_01:Yes. So yes, that to get shit done. Yeah, so for all of you watching, just to round all this up, then we all just want peace, stop attaching our worth to productivity, which is something that maybe what you were kind of trying to say. Yeah, we get things done, small steps are completely okay. Be more intentional about who we give our time to, protect our energy more. And also, it is okay to take a damn break without feeling guilty. Yes. So absolutely.
SPEAKER_02:Uh okay. So we're gonna do a quick gratitude toast. It's water. Are we let a toast with water? Is that yes? Because we're hydrating. I know. Some people say it's bad luck to toast with water. I don't believe that. Like, hydrating cannot be bad luck. Like, unless you're drinking too much water. But like a woman drowned herself once in a water drinking contest. I remember that. That's why that's why I was gonna say you can never drink too much water, but you can. We're not chugging a gallon faith.
SPEAKER_01:Look, you need to drink more water. A lady died! You don't love me. You want me to die as I'm like chugging Diet Coke.
SPEAKER_02:Um so yeah, so there's cheers to slowing down, kind of, kind of, and to still finding sweetness even when things are sticky. Love that. Oh, and on that note, cheers to milk and honey. Cheers to your next time.
SPEAKER_01:Goodbye.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, that's so cute.
