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Episode 30: It’s Giving… Holidays w/ Kayla Becker and Vanessa Curry

Kayla Becker

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We’re wrapping up the year with the studio lights off but the stories still shining. Seven months on the mic(!), and we’re diving into everything that makes the holidays both chaotic and kind of perfect—cozy rituals, family messiness, and the art of doing less without feeling bad about it.

From LA’s “winter” (aka sunshine) to that first real-tree smell, we talk about the little sensory things that make the season actually feel like the season, even when the weather refuses to cooperate.

We share the childhood traditions that shaped us—midnight gift opens, Santa’s bells, the presents that hit way too hard—and get honest about the modern gift-giving struggle. When is a gift really for the giver? Are budgets a trap? And yes, a thoughtful gift card does count. Food gets its moment too: fruitcake is a no, homemade beats store-bought, and eggnog needs a lil’ kick or don’t bother.

We also push back on the all-or-nothing New Year energy. Instead of sprinting into January just to flame out by February, we’re talking year-round habits, financial freedom goals, and a steady “stay ready” mindset.

And then—big news. We’re announcing Raise the Bar, our live podcast event and benefit night for foster youth at the Sofitel in Beverly Hills. Think music, a DJ, stand-up, surprises, raffles, a silent auction—the whole vibe—all supporting Peace4Kids. This is holiday energy turned into real impact.

We’re off the studio mics for two weeks, but still active on socials, prepping for the live show and a strong start to 2026.

Come hang with us for laughs, honesty, and some give-back energy. Subscribe, share with a friend who loves holiday chaos, and if you’re local—grab your ticket to Raise the Bar. Let’s make a night of it for a cause that matters.

SPEAKER_02:

Wow. Welcome back, everyone, to Milk and Honeys. This is a slightly bittersweet episode because it is our final studio episode of 2025. Which isn't that crazy?

SPEAKER_00:

That is so crazy, but also so cool. It's really cool. This is our epit this is episode 30. Is this 30? Yes. Wow. Right? I yeah, stop counting. Yeah, I think you're right. I have to keep counting for like social media purposes. So I'm pretty sure this is 30.

SPEAKER_02:

What a great one to go out on. Yeah. And it's it is crazy. We started May the 5th on 5 de mayo. And um, which is what, seven months ago or six yeah. Yeah, seven months of doing this. And those of you who are just now tuning in, you're like, who are these two yappers?

SPEAKER_00:

This is who are these two yappers? I'm Caleb Becker. I'm one of the other yappers, Vanessa Curry.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, so welcome back, or welcome for uh the very first time. But it is crazy that we're that we're already here.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I know it just it felt like we just celebrated Halloween.

SPEAKER_02:

So it is basically did crazy. And I'm like obviously refusing to let Halloween go. This is my Christmas sweater, but it's got slashing and got slashing through the snow with our horror icons. You got Pennywise and Freddie Krueger and Jason Voorhees and Michael Myers.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, mine is way more PG than hers. Mine PG about this. I actually got this in a Tokyo the first time I went. It's a really cute shirt. And it was so cute. And I just I like I just I had to get it and I bring it, I bring her out every holiday season. Um and yeah, it's just like I love I love putting her on because it just reminds me of the first it was like the first vacay that my boyfriend and I took together. So a little meaning. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Um well when did you like I personally realize? Oh, it's the holiday season again. Because it's hard in LA because the weather doesn't reflect that it's the end of the year. Right. It's hot outside still. So you have to like mentally get yourself into the holiday spirit to like experience it.

SPEAKER_00:

I honestly think the holiday season starts for me literally, if not right after, but like during Halloween, yeah, is when I start to feel, you know, I go to Target and it's like it still hasn't been Halloween yet, but there's already Christmas stuff out. It's infuriating. And it hasn't even been Thanksgiving yet.

SPEAKER_02:

Wait your turn, Christmas, okay?

SPEAKER_00:

Right. Stop being so greedy. I think that's when it is, but I feel like the second I put up my Christmas tree, I'm like, oh, we're here. It's time. So I don't decorate for Christmas.

SPEAKER_02:

Um, but I was at the Grove a few weeks ago. The Grove is this little shopping plaza in LA, and they already had all their Christmas stuff up, and I got really annoyed. I have like a weird thing with Christmas. I think as a growing up, I was as traumatized because decorating for Christmas was never really fun in my house. It was so stressful. Everyone's yelling at each other, breaking little baby Jesus and the nativity scene. I wasn't me, mom. I think it was me. I think it was me, but she will never know. Um, it was so stressful, and it's they take all day. We weren't allowed to do anything else, hang out with friends. So as an adult, I'm like, I'm never decorating for Christmas, and I don't. But I do like a good real Christmas tree. And there's a Christmas tree farm across the street here. I would get down with the real Christmas tree.

SPEAKER_00:

We literally stepped out of the car and before I even saw it, I smelled it. I was like, I smell Christmas trees. And then we looked across the street and we both said, Oh my god, it's a Christmas tree. I I do like I because of I guess financial reasons. One year I bought a small fake Christmas tree. Yeah. And um, I hate it. I mean, I I love it, but I just there's nothing like having a Christmas tree, a real tree in your house. I don't care how many candles of balsam tree or whatever that's called that you put on there. I don't care if you put the little like sticks that's apparently you put in the fake tree to smell it. It doesn't work. Okay, I've tried it all and it doesn't work. It's not the same. Sometimes I'll just go to the store and get like a little reef or something. Or reef. A wreath. Wreath? Not a reef. A wreath from the ocean, but a wreath. That's real, just so I have something that's smells.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. No, I do like that. That's my favorite. Well, today, what's your holiday spirit level from one to a 10?

SPEAKER_00:

Are you are you there? I think I'm at like, yeah, I'm at like a seven and a half, eight right now, because I am just, you know, we just finished Thanksgiving. Yeah. And yeah, that's always so fun, such a great, you know, time with family. And then now it's just a flow of yeah, till we get to January.

SPEAKER_02:

You know what's funny how the holidays are kind of set up because it's like you go all year without maybe seeing or talking to your family, then like two months in a row, you have the big family holidays. So I wonder why that is. I mean, I guess it's probably no reason. Well, I guess it's just tradition, right? It's just like it was like end of the year, you know, yeah, see your fam, and then yeah, it's a good way to start the new year.

SPEAKER_00:

It is, it is. I mean, what about you? What's your holiday spirit? I know you didn't go home for Thanksgiving. Yeah, I didn't go home for Thanksgiving, but I'm gonna go home for Christmas.

SPEAKER_02:

So I am excited. Like, I think it's a hassle flying across the country during the holidays, of course, but I always feel so good and I feel so grounded because Alabama is so different from Los Angeles. Right. And so I get so caught up in like the hustle and bustle and the high speed of LA. I go home, we live on a farm, we play basketball, ride the four-wheelers, and like just really get to kind of ground myself. So I'm I'm excited about that. I love that. Yes, that is nice. Um, what's a holiday tradition from your childhood that you miss?

SPEAKER_00:

We had such a huge family growing up, and so our house was filled with family. We would do like mariachi bands and and we would stay up. Our tradition, it's it's a it's a lot more, I guess, in the Latin culture, but in tra traditionally, you stay up till midnight, then night Christmas Eve, and then at midnight it's Christmas, and everyone's cheers, cheering each other and like hugging each other, and um and then you open up presents at midnight. Really? Um, and then yeah, we don't do that anymore. We don't have like so, like I said, that's only my mom, my sister, her family, which is her husband, two kids, and then my me and my boyfriend. Um, so now it's because it's just that's like our immediate family that does it. Um we do it in the morning because we're like, we're tired. We're like midnight. Okay. I know I'm not saying up till midnight.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, it was fun though when you were a kid, right? Because we just want, wait, did you believe in Santa Claus growing up though?

SPEAKER_00:

Or like sure after Santa, we thought Santa Claus was like for a long time I did. Yes. For a long time. So so it's like that, you know, and my mom always had um, which we do it for my nieces now, which is kind of fun. We'll have a bell. And so every now and then, like she'll go into a different room, or if they're in a different room, she like rings the bell, and then they'll be like, like that's kind of a like Santa maybe around somewhere. Um, and she did that with us as kids too, which is really fun. So, like that we get to do with my nieces is it's special, you know? And it's it's fun. It's like, haha, it's not Santa. When did you stop believing it?

SPEAKER_02:

When's the the age out? Oh, wait, is anyone watching? Santa's real.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, Santa's real until he's not, you know what I mean? You know, at a certain age, he just doesn't come around anymore, but he definitely exists, right? But I think when I was maybe I must have been double digits, like maybe like 10 or something. And I remember sort of catching my mom putting like a bunch of gifts under the under the tree. She was really good at not ever getting caught. No, like out of nowhere, the kids would be in a different room, and then we come out and there was gifts everywhere. And you're like, How did what the hell? Like, where did like where did he come from? Down the chimney. Yeah, how did we not hear him? You know? So yeah. What about you? Did you believe in Santa?

SPEAKER_02:

Or I did. I don't remember when it stopped. Because I think of way younger though, because it was before I moved to Alabama. And I remember like my mom's boyfriend would get like his big boots and get fake snow and leave prints in the living room. That's but then I woke up and saw him doing it. No, I was like, oh no. Okay, well, that's that. But also to be fair, I think I've said this before. As a parent who like would spend all the money and time with the wrapping and buying, and you know, I I feel like I want the credit. I don't want to give this fat guy all the credit. I deserve credit.

SPEAKER_00:

And then my foster family didn't do the Santa Claus thing. It was okay. Yeah, I get that. I mean, yeah, sometimes it's like my mom's like, just put it from Santa for my niece. I'm like, no, it's from me. It's from me. Yeah. I bought this, not Santa. No, like times are tough, okay? We're gonna also I'm like, mom, you have to put some from you because they're gonna be like, oh, so grandma just didn't get us any dips, even though she's the one giving them all of that. That's my point.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. Um, one thing we did growing up, which I miss, um, which is so funny and so southern, we would because it didn't get cold, so we'd like to run out in our shorts and our beanies, kind of like dressed like you are. Yeah, this is our this is an LA winter with a beanie shorts and a sweater. And then we would shoot ski. We had skeet thrower. And so that's when I like learned how to shoot a gun or shoot a like a rifle. That's so cool. And we'd let them shoot ski.

SPEAKER_00:

I love that. Out of a out of our little playhouse. That's so cool. I love that. Oh, and you guys don't do you guys don't have like a playhouse city. I mean, I know.

SPEAKER_02:

No, it's different now. Yeah, um, I think with all the you know of course, but yeah, back then it was just something really fun that we all got to do. And then we go play like some paintball and run around in the creek. Everyone's like, just take the gun outside, take the gun, take the gun.

SPEAKER_00:

Don't shoot your brother. Like literally.

SPEAKER_02:

You see how little brothers get their little BB guns shooting squirrels, poor little squirrels. Bo Jangles was his name. He was our pet. We loved him. They shot him, we ate him.

SPEAKER_00:

What? Bo Jangles. What kind of animal was this? He's a squirrel. He was a squirrel.

SPEAKER_02:

And then we had a funeral. I didn't know we ate him. They fried him up and they told me it was like chicken. And then afterwards. Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm unloading a lot of mine. Me and my mom, we feed the squirrels. We don't shoot them. We didn't need to.

SPEAKER_02:

But then we ended up having for the other squirrel, we had a whole funeral for him.

SPEAKER_00:

That's nice. I mean, thank God. Okay, okay, we've changed.

SPEAKER_02:

The kids have changed over the years.

SPEAKER_00:

We go from frying up and eating squirrel. What's a tradition that you uh are glad did not happen? Maybe it's that one.

SPEAKER_02:

Maybe it's secularing and eating squirrels. Maybe it's that. What about you?

SPEAKER_00:

Um at one point, people would open a gift like one at a time. So you would open your gift. I have to wait for them. You have to wait. And it's it's funny because it actually wasn't a tradition in my family. It was one of my ex-boyfriends, his family did that, where you would have to buy a gift for everyone, and then everyone would watch you open each individual gift that you got. I like that. And it was so uncomfortable and just so weird, and I hated it. And then if what if you don't like the gift? No, everyone's looking at you like Oh, yeah. And people did get gifts where you could tell they were not like they were like, okay, like cool. Next, yeah, you know, that gave me the most anxiety. It was like yeah, it was, and I remember one year because like I didn't like know his family that much or that well yet. And so it's hard to buy gifts for people, and they were very like they were they wanted nice gifts. So like you're spending your entire savings on Christmas, basically, is like what I felt like I was doing. Because my my family wasn't like that. And um yeah, I'm just so happy I don't ever have to do that again. Are you a good gift giver? Like what's your what's your gift giving ability? Yes, I know. Sometimes it gives me anxiety, but then sometimes if I know like a gift that somebody's actually gonna really like or want or needs or whatever, then I get excited for them to open it. But I don't know. Like sometimes I I don't know. I go back and forth. It just depends. Yeah, but you're a great gift giver. It's my love language.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, you not the receiving. I don't care what receiving, but I feel like I take pride in like really. You do you give amazing gifts, like thoughtful gifts, I think is like sorry, not this year, because again, people are gonna get gift cards to yes, but I love gift cards.

SPEAKER_00:

Do you? I love gift cards because then I get to go out and like buy something that I genuinely want you. You know, I think gift cards are I don't think it's a cop out. I think it's I think, you know. Yes, yeah. I don't know what's the worst gift that you've ever received. Socks.

SPEAKER_02:

My parents still get me socks. I don't really understand that one because I can buy my own socks. I wanted a Dyson, but you know, we'll take the socks. We'll take the socks. But they also gave me my best gift ever, which was when I was like 12, 13. I went through this emo phase, you know.

SPEAKER_00:

They let you go through an emo phase.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, yeah, emo phase, and they got me a cherry red Gibson guitar and uh an amp, and I played the electric guitar. It was very exciting. I know you can play the guitar. I could used to could. Well, I could hit that that bit, you know, that distortion. Yes. And if they pissed me off, I'd run upstairs, plug it in, and just tonight will be the night, and I will fall over you. I hate my mom! I hate my dad.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00:

No, Kayla. I think the worst gift I ever received was and and I and I did have fun with this gift, don't get me wrong. But my again, another ex, just I never I my exes just not know how to gift, I guess. So um he got me a uh what was it? Like rock band. Like the game? Yeah, but I didn't want that. I mean, like I I thought it would be cool for the house, you know. Yeah, but so you actually got it for yourself. For himself, yeah. Not necessarily for me. And he was like so excited. He's like, oh my God. And I'm like, cool, like, have fun. This is what you've been wanting, but you got it for me. You know what I mean? So like that was it was still fun, don't get me wrong. I love rock band. But like, you know, you're his girlfriend, like maybe like a nice piece of jewelry, or like, you know, or just something that I wanted. I didn't want rock band. Like, I want, like I said, I it's fun whenever we went to our friend's house and like we played it, it was so fun. But it's like I didn't ask for that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

That's like my ex did something similar. He was also my manager at my old job, and uh, I was a theme park reporter, and I uh the new Dagon Alley was opening up at Universal, and I had never watched Harry Potter before, was never interested in it. But he got me for Christmas like all the Harry Potter DVDs because I needed to watch them to go cover the news. Cover the news because he was my manager. So that's what I got. I had to sit and watch all, and to be fair, I kind of dug it. Harry Potter's kind of cool. Oh, but I never would have sorry, I just thought it was so far. I really did not like that gift, I guess.

SPEAKER_00:

That that really did not resonate with me. Okay, so what is the best gift someone surprised you with before? Um that you remember.

SPEAKER_02:

I mean, honestly, probably that guitar. That was probably really probably I love that. Yeah, and then I think back then when electric scooters first came out, I got one of those, which is really fun.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I think like the main, the three main gifts that like I will never forget getting is Santa when I was five, dropped my a kitten in in front of the door.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, we love and Santa.

SPEAKER_00:

And I got to open the door, and even at like five years old, I I just still have the memory always with me. And I just remember seeing this little black and white kitten like in a little case, and I and there was a little note that said for Vanny. That's my nickname that my mom calls me. And so I knew it was for me, and I was like, like, wait, I'm sorry, what? I just got a cat from Santa. Santa, how'd you know? And like, and it wasn't like it wasn't like I woke up, like we were all in my grandparents' house at the time, all partying. Well, not partying, I wasn't partying. Yeah, but you know, the adults were partying, like doing all their things, and somehow my uncle, sneaky or Santa, whatever. Uncle Santa um Uncle Santa got the cat to the door, rang the doorbell, and left. And I, yeah, it was amazing. And then my parents also got me a Furby one year, which was like we love a Furby. They were sold out everywhere, and my mom somehow found that thing. And and it was me and my two cousins. So she don't she didn't only find one Furby, she got three of them, which was fire. Yeah, it was crazy. And then American Girl dolls. Yes, I'll do the American Girl dolls. Those, those were my like they were freaky though.

SPEAKER_02:

They were freaky, but like they were that bitch just stared at me from across the room. I was waiting for it to come alive and slip my throat in the room. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, I cut her hair, I I accidentally like put an iron, and obviously, like their hair's not real. So then she had to go to like the doll hospital. And I remember her coming back and she was like in a little gown. And it's so funny that the business they made, and it's still a thing. Like people are still like I have three of those dolls, and they like they're now now that the worth a lot, they're worth money. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

You should look up at how much they're worth.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, actually. Right, so you could probably pay it for a few months, honestly. Literally.

SPEAKER_02:

Bye, girls. Um, well, do you feel uh pressure this holiday season for any reason? Like some people got like the holiday joy, the holiday stress, holiday pressure. I get a lot, I get stressed because I think when you feel like something like the end of the year is here and there's so much you gotta get done, and then on top of that, like making time to go visit family, I always get really like anxious.

SPEAKER_00:

I usually am, but I just feel like you know, we have I guess what you'd call like a well-oiled machine of like the things that we do every year. And so, and also it's just you know, it's it's I don't know, it's I it feels easier. Yeah. Also, I have a partner that like is not like anything that I've had before. So he also makes it easier, even though our families are in different places, you know. So it's it's um that was always like a really big struggle for me was uh trying to split time and and make that happen. So yeah, I don't feel stressed this year. I don't know. I just I'm like excited. I I think like we have a lot of good things happening and that are taking distraction from that and that we're focused on. So um I'm I'm just excited to like, yeah, spend time with my family. Good. And just like chill out. Let's never chill. We're we have things like that. But like the best kind of not chill, like that. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02:

So would you say like maybe like the relationship aspects of or of your life or something you put a lot of pressure on in the past? Like you said, that was like hard for the holidays.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, not so much like me putting pressure because like you know, but I I felt pressure from my at my partners. Yeah. Well, one partner just would never even come. So that should have been a huge red flag. You don't even want to spend time with my family at all ever. Um, and uh always made an excuse. And then the other one that I was like in a serious relationship to, it was, you know, we were both Latin. So we both celebrated at the time uh Christmas Eve. Okay. So it's like, oh yeah, you know, how can you decide? Like, yeah, and that and it and he just never wanted to compromise. I felt like I was always the one that had to compromise. Um, and so that was really difficult. So it did, it did make put stress on my family. Yeah. Because you know, my grandpa was still around. I had uncles who were or I had my family's very an older family. So it's like at that time, we still had relatives who are no longer with us. And I would have regretted if I was like, oh, this year I'm I'm actually gonna spend it over here instead of over here. I I was the girl that would spend Christmas, like Christmas Eve, with my family and then drive at like 10:30, 11 p.m. to his house to go have Christmas over there. So it's just like you were like making all the yeah, it was just a lot. I don't have to do that anymore.

SPEAKER_02:

No, good. Uh, what are you not doing this year? Guess that's it. Adding any extra stresses. Yeah, just screw that. We don't need stresses.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, like I just, yeah, I'm just like going with the flow for the holidays. Good. Just gonna go. What about you?

SPEAKER_02:

Um, I mean, yeah, kind of the same thing. Just not just not overdoing it and just, you know, yeah, choosing one holiday instead of both for me. Because again, it's just really far for me to go.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, it's a lot. I mean, I'm lucky. I I I say this every year. I'm like, I'm only a five and a half, six hour drive home, and I'm a 45-minute plane ride to my house. So it is, I am very, very blessed in that. And I'm very grateful. I don't take that for granted because I know I have a lot of people who are from the East Coast, and I have a friend who said I think she was going home to Michigan, and it's like over, it's like$1,100 for her to get home.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, it's so expensive. It's so expensive. And then for me, like we the closest airport to my town is Atlanta, which is still a two-hour drive after you fly all the way across the country. So you fly there, then you have to rent a car and drive two hours home. It's a lot. I'm so sorry. It's okay.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh it's okay. I mean, we kind of already like went into this, but gift cards. Do you think it's uh lazy or um an elite gift?

SPEAKER_02:

I mean, I think it depends. I think like if it's somebody that you don't know very well, or like a teenager, you know, teens love anything that's like monetary. So, but I think for like in a relationship, because I feel like even like my ex, I got him one, he had like 10 gifts for me, and one of them was a gift card to like this head spa place that he really liked. But if that was the only gift, I feel like that would be kind of a lazy cut kind of cop out.

SPEAKER_00:

Right, right. I feel that. Like if you're gonna do a gift card, maybe like do other little things with it. That's part that's the part of the stocking stuffer, right? Is it card? Exactly. I mean, speaking of stocking stuffers, I need to have you try something.

SPEAKER_02:

So my friend, I'm hungry.

SPEAKER_00:

Let's do this. So my friend just uh launched her jerky company and it's called The Jerky Society. How cute is that made it? The jerky society. It's so good. Um, and this one is called the Sweet Payback, and I wanted to try it because obviously there's there's a little honey going on in there. So um they're delicious. I it took me a long time. I mean, it took me a lot of uh what's it called? Self-control to not get this here and not eat all of it. Yeah, do it now. But these are so I mean, look, they look so fresh. I can eat, I can go through jerky, like oh yeah, yeah, you got a good piece. It's tender. Mm-hmm. This this spice level is like a so-so. Ooh, because I love a little sweet and spicy. Mm-hmm. It's so good. So I've been telling everyone if you have stockings, this is perfect. Or even like if you're doing a holiday party, this could be a really cute like gift to take home. Obviously, if you eat meat, obviously. But also great to take on the plane back home. It's just such a jerky society, we'll think jerky society. Um, but yeah, stocking stepper, this right here. I'm like, please, please.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, you uh you and your friends are coming to a secret secret Sienna?

SPEAKER_00:

We do uh white elephant. Okay, which is fun, which is fun. Um one year we did uh wigs. Okay. So everyone just got a different wig. That's fun. And then we wigged out and did like we did like a dance video and you know, just did uh we I think it was the year that the trending video was you taped the phone to the ceiling and then you're like dancing with your wigs. So yeah, it was so fun. We had cute. That was yeah, some of the wigs were insane. Some of them were actually fire. I'm like, can I keep this? Can I do that? The actual gift in the white elephant, everyone had wigs, or you wore wigs and did white elephant. The gift was like yeah. We were like, let's do something fun. I mean, normally we do like$20,$30 is the limit. Yeah. Um, and we have our our Christmas. I I used to dance at a dance studio called Dance Makers in the Barrier, and we still to this day get together. We're celebrating. It would have been our 18, but we had COVID. So this is our 17th year doing it in a row. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

So we love a good tradition. Yeah. Love one. I love that.

SPEAKER_00:

Let me pick a jerk here.

SPEAKER_02:

I might. I know. It's so good. Um, what do you think? Like with um, like dating, like with Ozzy. What's how much is too much money or too little to spend on gifts? I feel like I always struggled with that because I feel like I'd overspend. But I wouldn't want them to feel like they also had to overspend.

SPEAKER_00:

I feel like that just depends on where you're at financially. Yeah. Because I I would, I want to get like whatever my partner wants. You know what I mean? Like, I really do. You're not gonna go buy him rock band. I'm unless he wanted it. Unless he wanted rock band. Then yeah. But uh we also we like to tell each other what we want. Yeah. I know some people are like, no, surprise me. But also him and I, which I do love, is like we'll send each other some things and we'll be like, you know, we've already been asking each other, like, what do you want? And he'll he'll he'll say, Oh, maybe I want this or that, or like, and then at some point we'll we'll figure it out. Yeah. And we both don't live in the same place. So we would rather send it to our house. And I know we can't wrap it. I'm sure once we live together, we will wrap them and like let each other open them. But for now, we just like send it to each other's houses and you know.

SPEAKER_02:

To me, it just doesn't always funny to me because it's like I can just buy it myself, right? Kind of thing. So I'm like, I'd I'd like to be surprised more because otherwise I'm like, if I tell you I want a new toaster oven or something, I'll just go buy it myself.

SPEAKER_00:

See, and I think for me, a lot of times, like my growing up, we didn't have Christmas lists really. Like we didn't, it wasn't like we were telling our parents like everything that we wanted. They just kind of got us things that like they got us. Yeah. Um, so I I think that's maybe that comes from me not getting to like say what you wanted. Yeah. And so I'm like, okay, I'd rather, I'd rather get you what you actually want. Yeah, you know. So I don't know, maybe, maybe down the line we'll change that up and surprise each other. Is he like a gift giver? I love a list. Is he a good like surprise? Has he like surprised to us? Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

For sure.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, like for Christmas, it's like I said, he's like, tell me what you want. Like they're for my birthday, right? It's like I I wanted these Prada loafers. And I just get those for you? Yeah. And I just, I just didn't want to like ask. I don't know. I just even growing up, we weren't asking for like Louis Vuitton bags and like things like that, you know? So that wasn't something in our repertoire. So I uh he knew I wanted them and he was like, why don't you just ask me what you actually want? You know? Yeah. And he got them for me. And I love my product. They're so cute. They're so cute. But yeah. What about you?

SPEAKER_02:

Like when you're when you are in a relationship, do you know? I mean, I'm like my my ex wanted like, I knew he wanted a like a fancy like Asian tea set. Wow, that's so specific. I found one. Yeah, he went through like this phase where like he wanted to just make teas. Funny enough, he never used it. Of course. He wanted an ice maker, ice machine. We've never really used it. He wanted a KitchenAid mixer. Never used it. I think maybe once. And you probably used it, not him. Yeah, and he wanted a grill, so I got him, I got him all of this. Now we're not together anymore, and I got to keep all of it. So I wouldn't like take them.

SPEAKER_00:

Actually, we need to grill on.

SPEAKER_02:

I forgot you do have a grill on your balcony. Yeah, okay. We can always just make hot dogs. I don't know why we haven't done that. Yes on any of our given nights or just hanging out with fun. We've got well, get ready for summer holiday grills. We'll grill while wearing grills. Yes. Well, speaking of grilling, some holiday foods. Um, what holiday food is completely overrated? What's something they bring out for now? I'm knocking mine off for Christmas.

SPEAKER_00:

Ooh, like what is wait, what food is completely overrated? Yeah, that people always tip like bring your own Christmas time. I mean turkey. Well, the cookies from like the grocery store. Christmas cookies are trash. Like, I'd rather you just like bake them.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. I hate those Christmas with the icing and the sprinkles and they're all crumbly.

SPEAKER_00:

See, the one, the sugar cookies though. The soft ones. Yes. Those are really good. Those are really good. But the round ones with like that frosting and those like those the sprinkles, like the long sprinkles, I hate. It tastes like I'm eating fake something. I feel good in your mouth. It's just like a very uncomfortable feeling. Now the sugar cookies, though, I can eat the whole thing. But it's choosing a dessert, I guess. You know what I mean? What about fruitcakes?

SPEAKER_02:

No. What? Who ever invented the fruitcake? I'm sure they're dead.

unknown:

Good.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay. Okay. That is the most horrible cake.

SPEAKER_00:

Let's find out. Who invented the fruitcake? Who? I don't what what is the fruit? What do you mean by fruitcake though?

SPEAKER_02:

Like, is it like the fruit, like the gross fruitcake, this thing that people just gift all the time. Like these little nasty desserts.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, yuck. Okay, yeah, no, no, no. I don't I don't like that. Let's see. I do like my invented. There was a cake that my gr my my aunt would always bring, and it was it came from the Middle Ages. It tastes like it's from the Middle Ages. It does. It should never see the light of day at all.

SPEAKER_02:

It's made, it's from ancient Rome, it's origins. The Satura is what it was called. Made from barley, mashed pomegranate seeds, raisins, and pine nuts. Who thought that would be a tasty treat to give to the people you love?

SPEAKER_00:

That sounds like diarrhea. Like honestly, like it does not sound good. It's like let's just put it. bunch of shit together and see what happens. I'm like, no, I don't. I do. I I'm a I'm a huge like savory, sweet, savory. I love all of it and I love mixing it, but like that's like that's too much. That's too much going on. Yeah. What about eggnog? Look, I I'll have a glass. Yeah. I'll probably spike it. I'll probably it has to be spiky. Yeah I'll do eggnog and like some Bailey's. You know I'd rather have what is it horchata?

SPEAKER_02:

Is it the oh the horchata? Yeah. It's like that their version. Yeah. Yeah that's good. But no eggnog I don't even know what's in it. I mean it's eggs.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah I don't yeah I it's so gross to me I'll have like a glass for for tradition. Yeah. But like I'm not buying it. I'm not buying eggnog. I'm not waking up and seeing like ooh I want an eggnog. No no give me some hot chocolate. Yeah. Just give me a shot. Give me a shot. Yeah give me a shot. I'd rather have a shot than eggnog.

SPEAKER_02:

Hold the eggnog give me the shot. Do you make gingerbread houses? Yeah we grew up doing little gingerbread house competitions. And did you guys eat them after or do they stay I would got I got in trouble the time because I always eat like all the gum drops I'd have beaten the candy off of it. Not off mine though because we would we would compete so I would eat my siblings candy so theirs looks like you didn't have anything like why'd you decorate your house you losers?

SPEAKER_00:

I just feel like our fingers are all over it. I never eat it. And it's not they don't they don't gingerbreads don't taste good.

SPEAKER_02:

I mean like the house they don't taste good.

SPEAKER_00:

No I mean like the frosting that you use to like glue the stuff together that tastes good. Not if you buy it in the gingerbread house like the actual package sitting in there for who knows how long. Yeah no I I do enjoy making them they're fun. Yeah we should have done that this year. Maybe we will we have some time yeah we still have time to do that. Yeah we still have a couple weeks left of the year of the year I know you know um okay so you know eating obviously becomes a sport during the holidays. Yes. Uh elastic uh waistbands are the only option.

SPEAKER_02:

Yes and our diet will start January 1st yeah yeah exactly it's like the end of the year there's no point in like trying to you know now set it now.

SPEAKER_00:

But also like we've talked about this the whole goal thing on January 1st I don't know I guess as I get older I I love the inspiration behind it. But at the same time I've just I I have goals throughout the year that we want to do. So it's not like just the beginning of the year I hit the game and then you fall off. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02:

Everybody goes to the gym on January 1st everybody and their mom is there. And then around February it kind of tapers off.

SPEAKER_00:

Because everyone's like I'm gonna do these but you keep it consistent throughout the entire year it's like you don't have to get ready if you stay ready kind of mental exactly exactly so that's kind of as I get older that's sort of my mentality where it's like people are like what is your goal for for Jan for oh my gosh I can't even talk. What is your goal for January 2026 or the the year and it's like is that what year it is the goal is to survive. It's like first and foremost. The goal is to survive every year and just like have financial freedom. Yes that's my goal for like every month. We wake up every day yeah every month every week every day every hour every minute that is my goal that is the goal and to be a good person.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay traveling we've we've talked about traveling traveling around the holidays. So when I was working for WWE it was always this thing where I would so I was always on the road so then I would usually fly home from like a SmackDown show or something on Tuesday, fly straight to Atlanta and then it was the day before the holiday but then I have to fly out on Thanksgiving day because I had a show the next day. But I will say flying uh traveling on actual holidays is the best. Oh airports are empty I do not mind it at all and usually after we eat finish Thanksgiving food I'm good to get out and like head back to wherever I'm going. Right.

SPEAKER_00:

So I do like but that day before is is I've I've I've been lucky I think traveling because I I usually drive for the holidays just because like I said I have my cats. So I do drive uh and I have been very lucky to not hit like the crazy traffic that people say I should probably like knock on yeah um but um there was one year that I was flying out from LA and we left like the day after Thanksgiving and we were driving and it took us like nine hours to get back here from the Bay Area. It was crazy. We were on a red eye going to somewhere like El Salvador or something like that. Hadn't packed so I had to call my roommate at the time and get her to pack my suitcase for me. And I just like bless her she like she did it for me and I just I was so stressed I oh my it was just yeah I that would be your the travel disaster that was my travel disaster. I was like this is crazy. I remember getting there and like everything that I packed was not I shouldn't have packed it and it was really bad. Yeah. So like I don't recommend trying to drive from the Bay Area to LA then to have to get to your destination LA go to LAX and fly on a red eye I don't recommend it at all.

SPEAKER_02:

So we need teleportation or like a bullet train or something.

SPEAKER_00:

Absolutely are you an overpacker or underpacker?

SPEAKER_02:

It depends. I think like if I I like to put everything in a carry on I don't I hate checking a bag same. However if I don't have a carry-on to use and I have a bag to check I will pack it to the brim and take way more I'll wear two items out of it but it's I yeah overpack.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes I've gotten better over the years. I used to you guys pack my outfit like for every day on vacations I still will do that kind of like if there's themes or whatever you know like we just went to a a birthday um out of the country and uh they had themes every day which was great because they're like you know exactly what you're packing you know what you're wearing for dinner what you're wearing for during the day. But when I go home you know for holidays and stuff obviously you're more chilling and just whatever. But I don't do that anymore. I try to have you know a pair of jeans and then I'm like what can I wear with these jeans? Like how many tops can I wear with this and then if I have tops I'm like okay how many different ways can I wear this? I really have gotten good at it but it's taking me 18 years.

SPEAKER_02:

So I'm also like who am I kidding? I'm not gonna like I don't ever like even put makeup on when I'm at home I'm wearing the same two pair of leggings and you know and I'm wearing my sweatset like every day.

SPEAKER_00:

That boys set I'll probably wear the entire exact time. Or my mom and I like sometimes we stay in our robes all day and we just watch Dateline. Yeah so then I'm not even in clothes like the entire day.

SPEAKER_02:

We're just there you know what I mean it's the best it's the best um well listen before we do wrap up this episode on this like I said earlier this is our final in studio episode of the year. We will come back in studio July to January the 7th but we are gonna have one more episode. It's gonna be a live podcast episode at our event Raise the Bar, a night for foster youth at the Sofa Tell in Beverly Hills. We are so excited to be putting this on here in a couple of weeks on December 11th.

SPEAKER_00:

I know I'm so excited that we get to announce it and uh it's happening like you said December 11th at the Sofa Tel in Beverly Hills. Um and we're just gonna have so many fun raffles. I it's been it's been really beautiful to see how many people have wanted to donate for a raffle or a silent auction for us. And um just just seeing the help that you can get just by asking. Yeah. And I know you and I are both like that. We don't like asking people and you know there's some people who are helping us out that I have known them since I moved here and I've never asked for one thing. So uh it feels nice to be able to have that community showing up for us. Yes.

SPEAKER_02:

It's gonna be we're gonna have uh live music and the DJ and stand-up comedy and some uh surprise performances like you said a raffle silent auction there's gonna be drinks it's gonna be a really cool night of just community and again all of it's gonna go to uh benefit Peace for kids which is a local uh foster care organization which is near and dear to both of our hearts because I obviously was raised in foster care and I know your family like would take people in and yes kind of had a door wide open policy. Yes I mean yeah my family adopted three of my family relatives uh three of my cousins um and then yeah like you know we my family my mom and dad took in some of my my friends my sister's friends they've stayed with us for months they slept in our on our couches before and so uh it is it's it's nice to be able to do something for yeah to get back and uh tickets are now on sale you can check we have the link in our bio on our Instagram um so yeah go do that it's gonna be again a great night and it's you know all for all for a good cause so yes and I think people are more inclined around the holidays you know to to give back you know people are feeling a little more a little more giving you know it feels it feels good yeah it feels good to go into the new year and you know thinking knowing that you did something for somebody else other than yourself.

SPEAKER_00:

Right and partnering with Ishu Law who you know James has been amazing. Him and his wife own their own practice and uh they are sponsoring it and they've just been such a pleasure to work with and uh you know yeah create this charity that we're doing. I can't believe it's almost here.

SPEAKER_02:

I know I know we have so much work to do but it's gonna be so great. So it's gonna be so great. It's so good. And then hopefully it's something that Milk and Honeys can continue doing as time goes on is putting on events like this for our community and yeah and then hopefully y'all will want to come out. Yes.

SPEAKER_00:

And if you ever have uh an idea or a charity that you would like to give back to, I mean please let us know. And like we said we want to do more events like this to give back to the community that we love so much. There's so many communities out there that need help and um if we can do just a little something like we said those small moments uh create big pictures and uh that's that's our goal to try to do that for everyone.

SPEAKER_02:

And then like we said we're gonna be filming our final episode of the year uh you know live. So we're again red carpet, Getty, Vanessa and I are gonna be interviewing people on the carpet. We're gonna get up on stage interview uh a member from the Foster organization James Ishu. Um and yeah it's it's gonna be really cool.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah I'm excited to see all this it's gonna be so fun. I'm so excited. It's gonna be so fun now that like we're like talking about it talking about it I'm like I'm ready. So many good things um so yes we will see you guys at uh raise the bar and we will see you in the new year. And it makes me kind of sad but don't forget just because we're gonna be taking two weeks off doesn't mean that we will not be posting on social media. We will be um all over the gram all over our socials um so that will not be going on a break. No. So you will still remember we you are not getting rid of us.

SPEAKER_02:

Exactly you're not getting a break from us.

SPEAKER_00:

No sorry about it sorry we're not sorry. No we're not we're not sorry um but yes just remember you guys even with all the holidays and all the sweets and all the things that we will still always be the best ingredients for your tasting tea or eggnog or eggnog spikes spiked right Merry Christmas happy holidays everyone happy new year