Episode 33: From Bama to Booed (and Still Standing): We Sit Down with Comedian Martin Morrow

From a sold-out homecoming show to a $300-a-week “assistant” gig (that somehow involved a robot litter box) and the night 6,000 people booed, Martin Morrow gets real about what it actually looks like to be a working comic. He talks about how he reads a room almost instantly, why LA can humble you faster than New York, and how you protect your material while still playing the social media game.

We get into dry spells, charity gigs vs. clubs, and the weird crowd-work paradox—why those clips help you grow but also change how audiences behave. It’s honest, funny, and genuinely useful if you care about stand-up or building something that lasts.

And stick around for Sip or Spill, where Martin spills a few secrets about the comedy industry he probably shouldn’t.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:08

Welcome back, everyone, to Milk and Honeys. We're your hosts. I'm Kayla Becker. And I'm Vanessa Curry. This is our second week back in the studio for 2026. And we brought on a guest who agreed to be here before he knew the rules of Cypress Spill, which we'll be playing a little bit later. You've seen him around us many times. You're uh at the raise the bar event, you saw him before him when he's hitting up all the hottest comedy clubs in LA. Please welcome our good friend Martin Morrow. Yay.

SPEAKER_03 0:34

Hey guys, go away with the people out there too.

unknown 0:39

Sorry, go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 0:40

I was gonna say, how's it going? Well, it's funny. The first time I ever like came into this building was to be on a podcast I was a guest on with you guys. Yeah. Right there, right?

SPEAKER_00 0:50

Before the belly, yeah. Now it's all full circle.

SPEAKER_02 0:52

I know.

SPEAKER_00 0:53

Yeah, I meant to bring you flowers again, but we're not bringing that negativity into 2026.

SPEAKER_02 0:59

Because it's my studio space.

SPEAKER_00 1:01

We're not talking about that.

SPEAKER_01 1:02

Wait, I'm sorry, I'm lost. Okay. Well so you brought her flowers and she left them here.

SPEAKER_02 1:07

He brings a lot of people flowers, a lot of other women that he has on his show who brings them flowers.

SPEAKER_00 1:11

Oh, so yeah. So and then every time I would bring Caleb flowers, she never brought me flowers. But then when I did bring her flowers, she left early. So that was like a really nice inexpensive bouquet. Uh but but she she left early, so I had to give them away.

SPEAKER_02 1:28

And I spit in them.

SPEAKER_00 1:30

Whoa.

SPEAKER_02 1:32

Kidding. I get it.

SPEAKER_01 1:34

You could get me more flowers. It's fine. For anyone meeting you for the first time, not that we have. How do you best describe your comedy?

SPEAKER_00 1:44

Oh, wow. Um I I think it's very like a little improv mixed with a little bit of uh like social and personal stories and stuff. So it's like a mixed bag of everything, really.

SPEAKER_02 1:57

And you are real you are really funny. And I don't like to admit that other people are funny, but you are really good at what you do. Oh, thank you. Um, we are both from Alabama. I'm from Wildley, he's Birmingham. We were just there for the holidays. It's by the way, how was Christmas in Bama?

SPEAKER_00 2:08

It was it was cool. It was a fun little time.

SPEAKER_02 2:10

Yeah, it's so small, huh?

SPEAKER_01 2:13

Just just the community.

unknown 2:14

What are we talking about?

SPEAKER_01 2:16

Specifically, she heard things about how small it was. And I saw her videos and I'm like, it's just this is going on.

SPEAKER_02 2:25

Wait, what's going on videos of how small it was. Um, Birmingham is a little bigger than my town.

SPEAKER_01 2:36

Oh, oh, you're not from the same now. Two hours in the two hours. Oh, so you are actually in a city. Yes. She's in the wilderness. Okay, so that makes sense. Yes. Okay, good. That's why that went over my head. I don't know anything about Alabama.

SPEAKER_00 2:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:52

We're talking about penis size.

SPEAKER_00 2:54

Birmingham is central and bigger. We have pretty pretty medium size. It's a decent size.

SPEAKER_02 3:01

Average, average.

SPEAKER_00 3:02

It's an average size, a little above average, I'd say, yeah, comparatively to other places.

SPEAKER_02 3:06

But and mine's like, you know, micro.

SPEAKER_00 3:08

Yeah. So micro town.

SPEAKER_02 3:10

Micro town. Micro. You had a comedy show at your home, did you?

SPEAKER_00 3:14

Yeah, sold out. Uh we had Roywood Jr., we had Pinkbeard, we had Funny Main, uh, Terry Thomas, Draymond, like really good lineup. Justine Marino was there, if you know her.

SPEAKER_02 3:23

Was that built around you coming home? Was like a homecoming for you?

SPEAKER_00 3:25

Uh it was like homecoming for all of us. So yeah, it was called Holiday Hangover. Should have come. Yeah, I know. I did.

SPEAKER_02 3:31

Did that be texting me on my last night home? Was that what you were inviting me to that?

SPEAKER_00 3:34

Yeah, because that was the that Friday night. You left Sunday.

SPEAKER_02 3:37

I was Saturday morning.

SPEAKER_00 3:38

Okay. I left Saturday morning also, but you know, I still made it.

SPEAKER_01 3:42

Um, really left out the we are going to just end this episode.

Alabama Roots And Holiday Stories

SPEAKER_02 3:51

We're gonna talk about Alabama first. Yeah, what's the most Alabama thing that you think uh hasn't left your system yet? We you've lived in LA for how long now?

SPEAKER_00 3:58

Uh eight years.

SPEAKER_02 3:59

Okay, so what's so what's still Alabama about you?

SPEAKER_00 4:02

Ooh, um I I think the way I say Alabama is very Alabama, and then I still eat grits. Like love grits. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:11

With a Waffle House on the way out, and I was like, I had to get my grits.

SPEAKER_00 4:13

So have you been a Waffle House Vanessa?

SPEAKER_01 4:15

I have. I have. Which which which um I think I was in, is is it is there one in Atlanta? Oh, yeah, that's one of the right near the airport. There's a few. I've been to that one. Uh it was it was actually like after a night out. Oh, yeah. Hangover at the Yeah, it was really good. Yeah, it was really good.

SPEAKER_00 4:31

There's something wrong with you if you like eat Waffle House sober.

SPEAKER_01 4:34

Right. Well, I mean, I agree, except she does.

SPEAKER_02 4:37

Well, I thought about I think you, you know, we should open a Waffle House in West Hollywood. I agree. That stays open like until the like 3 a.m. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:44

I'd say 24 hours. 24 hours, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:46

Yeah, I agree with that.

SPEAKER_01 4:48

Yeah. New business plan 2026. Milk and honey's and events. Milk and Honey's podcast and Milk and Honey's Waffle House. Yeah. Coming to a spot near Hugh.

SPEAKER_00 4:58

You set up a podcast video in the background.

SPEAKER_02 5:00

Honestly, that right there would be a drilling.

SPEAKER_00 5:03

Interview the uh employees right after they get into a fight.

SPEAKER_02 5:05

Oh my god, it'd be like World Star all over again, but just at the Waffle House. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_03 5:09

That's a tad bit.

Comedy Career, Commercials, And Industry Reality

SPEAKER_02 5:15

Baby on her head while she's flipping this. Oh God. Well, obviously, comedy has uh been your main source of life since you've been here, right?

SPEAKER_00 5:27

Yeah, yeah. Mostly like stand-up and commercials. And it's funny because I I applied to be, I was like, man, I kind of want to do some something else for a little bit. And I applied to be an assistant like the last week of um of 2025 and for this influencer. And then like within the first meeting, I was like, oh, this is a terrible idea.

SPEAKER_02 5:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:47

Yeah. We were talking about that last episode. It's like, you know, I think all of us right now have kind of been looking for these survival jobs because the industry is just trash for any any part of it. But then when you like sit down and think about it, like, oh, no way. Like I there's I can't sit at a desk or work for somebody else or be somebody's little bitch. Like, no, we're gonna figure a way to make it by yourself and do what you love to do. Yeah, right. Because because like sell your feet for goodness sake.

SPEAKER_00 6:10

Yes. You got to. I wish I could tell my feet.

SPEAKER_01 6:12

Um you probably could. Look at look at your wiki feet numbers. You should go look it up.

SPEAKER_00 6:18

I don't think I've ever shown feet on on your name, so you might not know it.

SPEAKER_01 6:22

You know, that's true.

SPEAKER_00 6:22

Yeah, I don't I don't think about it.

SPEAKER_01 6:26

When did you when did you realize that you know this could be a career for you and not just being funny at parties?

SPEAKER_00 6:34

Um it was 2010. My dad passed away. Sorry to hear that. Yeah, I appreciate that. Um but yeah, it I there was like a night where I still was like performing and kind of had a moment like, oh, this is I'm I'm good, I'm good at this. Like this is something I I enjoy doing. And I just I just couldn't stop. Um, and yeah, just kind of kept carrying over. And I've I've had like moments where I'm like, can I do this? Do I want to do this? Like I've quit for a few months and stuff like that. But like I I can't give it up if I wanted to now.

SPEAKER_01 7:08

Well, you love it, it's your passion, and you're good at it. Also, we just realized that we're with the same agency, commercial agency. We're both with vision. So and he's popping up on a commercial left and right.

SPEAKER_02 7:17

I turn on the TV, I'm like, this again.

SPEAKER_01 7:19

Yes, no, but congrats, it's incredible. It's so I love I yeah, I love seeing people on TV that I know. I'm like, hey, good for that. Hey, hey, how's it going? What's your uh how long have you been with Vision?

SPEAKER_00 7:31

Uh seven years only.

SPEAKER_01 7:32

Okay, so like right when you got here.

SPEAKER_00 7:34

Yeah, pretty much.

SPEAKER_01 7:35

Okay, yeah, and Pam has been there for over over 10 years too. So she's been our agent for so long. It's amazing. They're family over there at Vision.

SPEAKER_02 7:43

So go Vision. She's gonna get them some work because how many commercials have you? I mean, you've booked quite a few in the last few years, haven't you?

SPEAKER_00 7:49

Yeah, uh gosh, I don't even know if I can count. Um not not in a not in a room.

SPEAKER_01 7:54

Wow, I love that confidence. We need that, I know. We need that. Oh my gosh. Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:59

Uh I know like this past year, I think it was three or four, and then but it's usually like uh low end maybe two or three, and then high end, like I think seven one year or something like that. So, but I I don't I I try to when I do it, I try to like kind of let it go so it's not like stuck with me of like now. I have to kind of chase that eye again. So I try to always just like say, Hey, I did something good, and now let me figure out the next kind of move.

SPEAKER_02 8:23

Yeah, commercials pay well though, too, don't they? I feel like I've I've been told that. Some do they could pay your rent for an entire year? Yeah, I mean that's what you did Buick, right?

SPEAKER_01 8:32

Yeah, I had did Buick and I it ran for three years and it definitely changed my life and in so many ways. But again, after I booked that, it was such a fun, big commercial. It was all over March Madness, it was all over ESPN. So, like I I knew that most people saw it and it was like so much fun and all these things. And then I haven't booked like a big one like that since, and that was in 2021, you know. So yeah, those those thoughts do run where it's like I can't focus on trying to like just up that one. Yeah, uh, it will happen again, I'm sure. But it's just it that is like a thing that we always have to remember.

SPEAKER_00 9:13

Yeah, no, because there's one year, I want to say like two or three years ago, where I booked like two two or three Super Bowl commercials. And then the next year I got non-bed everyone kept being like, So are we gonna see you at the Super Bowl this year? And I'm like, no.

SPEAKER_02 9:26

Don't you hate that? There is to be something about family members and friends not asking that shit.

SPEAKER_01 9:31

I had that at Thanksgiving. My my my she's not my aunt, but she's part of the family. And uh she was like, Yeah, I haven't seen you on TV. Like, what's what's going on? Like, where where you know, and I'm like, fuck off.

SPEAKER_00 9:45

You should have said I haven't seen you on TV.

SPEAKER_02 9:47

No, ever. I never wear a bitch. I should have that would have all your aunt a bitch.

SPEAKER_01 9:51

It is all like pinned up inside my nose. But it it is, it is. It's a it's uh, you know, but we love it, and I I don't want to ever stop doing it. I mean, you know, there's I I see people who kind of go through these waves, and that's just kind of what we have to ride, and we have to ride that wave and keep pushing and keep doing our auditions. And are do you like self-tape auditions or would you rather be in the room?

Finding Purpose After Loss And Booking Wins

SPEAKER_00 10:17

Uh it's it's a mixed bag. I I think I I like that I have the ability to like redo redo them with with self-tapes, but like some there's one I got for this um for for a uh airline company where they're like, all right, so we really need you to cry. So like put put on a song that makes you cry, and then like put on like a movie scene that makes you cry, but like you have to cry for real. Like, we don't want fake tears. And I don't I don't know why, but it just made me so mad that I had to like fake this thing, and I'm just like, yeah. I I record, I did as best as I could.

SPEAKER_02 10:47

Cry right now, cry. I'm gonna see it, cry. I love Mark and they're just like, bring it! Yeah, you got this.

SPEAKER_00 10:56

Usually, usually I'm pretty good about it. It depends on the situation, but usually I can do it.

SPEAKER_02 11:00

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, we roped you in to a really cool event we did last year. We talked about it a lot last episode. We threw our big milk and honeys charity event, raised the bar at the sofa to hotel, and you did comedy for it. Thank you again for doing that. You absolutely killed it. Killed it. But I'm curious when you step into environments like that, which isn't a normal like comedy club uh environment. What's different about it, like as a comedian, knowing because I gave you like a list of rules, you know, maybe, which by the way, uh I think when your first jokes was like about doing blow in the bathroom or something.

SPEAKER_00 11:30

Well, no, it was about them doing blow in the battery.

SPEAKER_02 11:31

I immediately looked at Ziyad, who was our recipient. I'm like, oh my god, he'd be so pissed. And he was cracking up laughs. I'm like, okay, we're good. We could have even gotten a little worse. Because you never know. You never know. People people get offended and those all the red tape, but that was a good like indication of the audience that we had there that you could appreciate good comedy. But what is it? Like, what is like the preparation, how it could be different for you walking into something like that?

SPEAKER_00 11:54

Um, so it's it's funny because like I I kind of came in with an idea of like, okay, so air a little bit cleaner, like, and and I'm not like a dirty, filthy comic, anyways, but uh I was kind of air on trying to air on the side of a little bit clean. And then once I got there, I was like, okay, this seems like a different audience. So I can maybe, you know, toe the line a little bit or play around with this a little bit. So I mix it up then. And then, you know, when I was in the bathroom, I saw like nine people coming out of the store. I have to address that.

SPEAKER_02 12:25

We are in West Hollywood. We probably know exactly who you were talking about. Yes. Um, so yeah, so that's actually an impressive thing that you said that you can kind of go with the flow, which for me, I I've attempted stand-up a couple times and I'm like, I have to say exactly what's on my cards or they get all messed up. And you've been doing it long enough where you're able to kind of bop and weave throughout your material.

SPEAKER_00 12:44

So, what are you listening to in a crowd differently with like a charity event versus a club where you know to maybe kind of shift um so in that environment, because it I could tell, like, okay, this back half of people are they just want to talk right now or drink or whatever. This front half, they're they're locked in. So looking at that demographic and looking at what things that uh they're being receptive to, I'll usually adjust towards that. So I'm like, okay, they don't like race stuff, so maybe I'll play into you know, more of like the environment or play into politics or talk about like, you know, working with kids or whatever, and just kind of go in that route more.

SPEAKER_01 13:17

So that's what's that's like a high level of intelligence. That is like, yeah, I was gonna say that is it's it's so it has to be that calculated.

SPEAKER_03 13:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:26

Which people probably don't even think. Yeah, they think that you just get up there and do your thing and that's that, like you don't have to switch it up or anything like that. But you did such a great job. What's the best? Uh obviously, laughter. Obviously, you want to get the laughs in the audience, but what is what's like the best thing when you get off stage that someone can say to you?

SPEAKER_00 13:46

Ooh, um or not say.

SPEAKER_01 13:48

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 13:51

I I think I think the best thing is when someone says, like, you know, I really needed that. Like I had a rough week. There, like, there was one time a guy told me his uh his dad had just died, and I used to talk a lot about my dad uh passing and stuff on stage, and so he said how much that like helped him just to like laugh for a little bit. So I love that.

SPEAKER_02 14:10

It's funny, I noticed that when I watch, I watch a lot of comedy specials. I don't watch one I just watched, I just watch someone's. But uh, you know, one thing Matt Reif is good at, we're talking about him a little bit and his crowd work ability, but he does hone in on you see people like in wheelchairs or disabilities or a sick, and he has this way of like making jokes, including them instead of isolating them to make them feel like, oh, like I'm too broken to make a joke about them. I think that is so special, and I feel like it's a power you have to have as a comedian, otherwise I feel like you kind of seem like a fraud a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 14:38

Right, right, or just an asshole.

SPEAKER_02 14:41

More of an asshole. It's like probably just an asshole.

SPEAKER_00 14:43

I want to make fun of everybody here except for the wheelchair kid. Yes, yes, no, yes, right?

SPEAKER_01 14:48

And if they're if they're going to a comedy club, they're they know what they know what's exactly. Yeah, exactly. What what are you most excited about creatively this year?

SPEAKER_00 14:55

Ooh, I I'm uh writing more. Like I've me and Kayla have talked about it a little bit, but like I I love screenwriting. And my issue is I always will start a script and then be like, I don't know what else to do with this, and then just like stop in the middle. But now I'm like, I I've my I don't I don't like to make resolutions, but I'm like, I'm committed to locking in and finishing the things that I start this year.

SPEAKER_01 15:17

I love that. We should do a short film. We can all do a short film together. A short something, yeah, you know? Yeah, short something. A short something. So back to the short thing. Short micro small, a little micro.

SPEAKER_00 15:28

We'll do a Wattley. A little Wattley.

SPEAKER_01 15:30

We'll have to all go to Watt Wattley. Please do some research. One night in Wattley. Ooh! That's okay. So, okay, so you do obviously, you act, you do stand-up, now you're writing a lot more. Um, how do you train those parts of your brain to kind of all come together?

SPEAKER_00 15:50

Uh ooh, that's so I have a dog, and which is also that's a weird way to do that.

SPEAKER_01 15:55

I like, yeah, I was gonna say, I can't wait to see where this goes.

SPEAKER_00 15:59

So when I take my dog for walks, that's when because I used to be the type of person I have to sit down and write and have to like look up stuff. It's like that just didn't I wasn't producing the best material that way. But now if I'm walking my dog, I think ideas just kind of pop up and I just make sure I have my phone on me and I write it down immediately. Cause otherwise and then the other thing I do, because sometimes I think like they ideas come at night, like when you're like going to bed. And what I'll do is I'll fall asleep, and if I remember it, then I'll know it's good. But if I don't, then I'm like, okay, it probably was a trash idea. Right.

SPEAKER_02 16:31

That's cool. I love that. Okay. We know every year is all about, you know, kind of adjusting our lives and what they were and what we want to see for them, you know, this coming year. So what do you want more of this year? And what are you also maybe actively avoiding this year besides exes?

SPEAKER_00 16:47

I don't even know if I'm avoiding that actually. I I think actively I I'm trying to do better about saying no. I I tend to be a very big people pleaser.

unknown 16:57

Yeah.

Charity Show Strategy And Reading The Room

SPEAKER_00 16:58

Yeah. And uh so yeah, I've I've been and advocating for myself. Because that's another thing where I'm like always, you know, allowing people I don't want to say take advantage of me, but I'm always kind of like the go-getter. I'll Mart Martin will do it. I'm resilient to my my friend group and even like strangers in some regard. But um that's one thing I've been like, yeah, I need to like your voice, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:19

Yeah, yeah, and boundaries, boundaries and voice. And it probably answers my next question about something that you used to chase, which you don't want to anymore, and that's probably people's approval, right?

SPEAKER_00 17:27

And and honestly, like it kind of ties back into that assistant job because like this is a person who has like millions of followers online, and uh and was like, Yeah, you know, if you work with me, you're gonna gain following. And I was like, Oh, yeah, let's talk about price, and it was like$300 a week. What?

SPEAKER_01 17:43

Yeah, and then the first day Wait, I'm sorry, but were you like running their space like that?

SPEAKER_00 17:48

So I would have been Who is it?

SPEAKER_02 17:49

Tell us right now.

SPEAKER_00 17:51

I'll tell you out there. Okay, I I would have been like helping with like emails, uh, and then helping like create content, and then this person was also like, yeah, I'm gonna get I'm getting in a stand-up. Uh and I've done training. Yeah, basically like helping write jokes because they were like, I have to get I have to get good really fast. So the first they were like, hey, can you meet me for a logistics meeting tomorrow? And I'm like, I only have like a few hours, but sure. And they asked me to fix a litter box, they asked me to fix a trash can to take some to return some Amazon packages and to try to get glass cut at Lowe's. Nothing. I was like, I brought my laptop, so this isn't, but and like, but I think me a year ago, I would have been like, all right, I guess I'll figure it out. But now I'm like, yeah, no, I can't do this.

SPEAKER_02 18:35

Absolutely no. I mean 3,000 a week, how much glass you need.

SPEAKER_01 18:38

Yeah, but I know how to fix a litter box. And let's watch your jokes, but yeah, but that's that's it was like one of those like rotating robotic litters.

SPEAKER_00 18:45

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:46

She has I have one of those. They're they're amazing, but like for doing it yourself, not for$300 a week.

SPEAKER_02 18:52

No, yeah, that's you can hire somebody else to do all the shit. Well, good for you. Good for you.

SPEAKER_01 18:56

Yeah, I love that. I need to stop saying I love that, but I do love that. No, it's love that and you know, it's okay. I think those are two things I'm trying to avoid when it's bad. Like it keeps you up.

SPEAKER_00 19:08

You're trying to avoid loving that?

SPEAKER_01 19:09

No, no, no. Just saying that after everything, like let's like broaden my horizon and my there's nothing, there's nothing you need to change.

SPEAKER_02 19:16

Okay, great. There's nothing.

SPEAKER_01 19:17

Okay, great.

unknown 19:18

Great.

SPEAKER_02 19:18

I love that one thing that is changing is when we're watching everything every year, comedy is changing, right? Um, so what do you think audiences want from comedians right now that they didn't have five years, that they didn't five years ago, which is it like more censorship, which is right shit.

SPEAKER_01 19:34

And do you think that social media has, you know, helped stand up, or do you think that social media has kind of played a factor into the downfall? Like confusing comedy a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 19:47

Ooh. Uh I I think that what people are gonna start looking more for is like kind of a Josh Johnson method of comedy.

SPEAKER_03 19:54

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:54

Uh where it's someone someone who's able to structure like current events or things that just happened. Into longer settings.

SPEAKER_02 20:01

SNL type shit where it's just like very so people can just get it.

SPEAKER_00 20:04

Yeah, as opposed to And it's instant. Yeah. Cause I think crowdwork comedy. I don't want to say it's dying out, but I think it's kind of slowly on its way out because a lot of comedians get frustrated when we're trying to do our joke. Someone's like, talk about talk about this thing. You're like, I don't want to know.

SPEAKER_02 20:19

Yeah, unless you're what's his name? Who am I thinking? Who's our crowd, one of the best crowd work geniuses of all time?

SPEAKER_00 20:23

Uh Nate Jackson.

SPEAKER_02 20:24

No, he's old, older. He's British. What I can't think of his name right now. It'll come to me by the end of the show. But he's he actually actively will take you know scenarios from the crowd. And he I think he's the best that's there's ever been. Now you train in serious comedy spaces. Um what second city was it? Um craft matters though. When you go train some like that, craft matters. It's not just getting up on am I wrong? No, I think serious. Craft matters.

SPEAKER_00 20:51

Serious comedy.

SPEAKER_02 20:52

What do you think? So people like the one the person you might have been an assistant to um who thought they want to do comedy and they think, oh, this is easy, I can do it. Um, and just think they're ready. What would you say the most common misconception is of someone who thinks they can do comedy?

Writing Goals, Creative Process, And Boundaries

SPEAKER_00 21:06

Ooh, I think the most common misconception about comedy is pretty much that. Like, oh, you just get up there and talk, and that's something you you see a lot. Or especially if from an audience perspective, I I if I yell things out, that's helping you. Uh, because I did a show Tuesday where it was like this British guy who was like, talk about silver. And we're like, what do you what? What is that a thing right now? Like, yeah. And he he got he got very mad at me because I yelled at him and told him to uh I said, I'll kick you and you're you're uncircumcised dick. And he he got mad as well.

SPEAKER_02 21:38

How do you how do you handle with hecklers? I mean, do you get them a lot?

SPEAKER_00 21:41

Uh not not really. I because I I used to, but I was very mean. And then like I had a guy pull a gun on me and I was like, Whoa, was that in Birmingham?

SPEAKER_02 21:49

Sounds like Birmingham. I was literally saying that definitely did not happen in West Hollywood. They don't pack you down before you go. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 21:57

Well, it actually happened twice in Birmingham, so two different people. So yeah, after that I was like, I probably should chill on being mean to people.

SPEAKER_02 22:03

It actually reminds me of a story, you know, Scott Armstrong is in the wrestling world. He was in Birmingham doing a show. This was years ago, and he was getting into his rental car, and a guy came and put a gun to his head, said, Give me your give me a car or whatever. So Scott gets, you know, it's like, whatever, take it, it's a rental. And then the guy who had a gun to him didn't know how to do push to start. So he made Scott uh teach him how to use the car before he took the car. And then it's the most Birmingham thing I've ever heard of. He's like, Where's the key? Where's the where's the key?

SPEAKER_01 22:32

There's there's a button.

SPEAKER_02 22:34

Um social media earlier and how maybe it can be a little, you know, confuse things. Do you think comedy's getting tighter because of clips? People are just clipping little, you know, bits and pieces. Again, going back to Matt Reif as an example because he was kind of coming up in the early TikTok clip to what got him so famous.

SPEAKER_03 22:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:49

Do you think that's been a positive thing?

SPEAKER_01 22:52

And have you incorporated more clips on your socials in that sense too? Like shorter, faster scenarios. We have short attention spans now.

SPEAKER_00 23:01

Yeah, I I've tried to associate or try to try to utilize clips more, but I I've noticed that the things for me that end up popping the most are when I'm just like talking shit, just like in my car or on a walk. Uh it so yeah, that so it like it it works sometimes, but it's like if you're trying to like promote a show, yep. Um, but it also can like, oh, this joke that I've spent, you know, so much time on and that I, you know, found a good camera and all that stuff, people only you know listen to it for X amount of time.

SPEAKER_01 23:29

So they want the raw and just unedited at this point. I think that goes for a lot of social media too. It's like if it's too polished and perfect, they don't want it. They don't think it's funny.

SPEAKER_02 23:39

If it's too long, I mean I'm a TikTok doom scroller. I'll be going through videos, and if I'm like 10 seconds in and I'm not popping yet, okay, we're just moving. Exactly. And I want to do better because also I do want to support these content creators out there and give them their views and money, although I'm not getting any of myself. Never mind for wow.

SPEAKER_00 23:55

That was like mid-centage. She just I take it back.

SPEAKER_01 24:01

I cannot what what is or okay? We're off the right. Wow, Kayla. Give me my drink. Yeah, she needs a shot. Maybe not even just the drink. We need to get it.

SPEAKER_02 24:12

We're gonna try Martin's special. I know, right?

SPEAKER_01 24:15

This is Martin's special.

SPEAKER_02 24:17

We're gonna actually use these in a game in a little bit, but yeah, I don't have any cooties out there.

SPEAKER_01 24:20

Um who are your forever favorites? Like who who are even older. Yeah, I know you love that.

SPEAKER_02 24:29

I don't know, yeah. It tastes like college. Oh, that's what I drank all through college.

SPEAKER_03 24:35

Okay, wow.

SPEAKER_01 24:37

It tastes like we should be on a beach in Hawaii doing this. Yeah, you know, not the ready.

SPEAKER_02 24:43

You already spilled the idea, it is okay.

SPEAKER_01 24:45

Um who are your forever favorites? Whether they're older comedians, newer comedians, people that you just came in contact with, like who are your favorites?

SPEAKER_00 24:55

Oh, um, I wouldn't, I I I think like there's a lot of classic Chappelle stuff out there.

SPEAKER_01 25:01

Yes. Oh my gosh, his new one that came out. His new special. Oh, I get it. I liked it. Yeah, he got a little, I think, political. He does it, but I think he needed to.

SPEAKER_03 25:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:12

I think for himself, he needed to do that. And so I still appreciate it, you know. But he's always gonna be the best. He's my he's always gonna be my favorite, honestly.

SPEAKER_00 25:21

See, an Ali Wong Live also is like fantastic. Um, and I'm always a big supporter of my friends, like Pap Johnson, you know, Mateen Stewart. Uh, but I think my Craig Craig Robinson also is always great. Um Brandy Denise, if you haven't heard of her, she's on she has a special on Hulu. Um but my my all-time favorite is Patrice O'Neill.

SPEAKER_02 25:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 25:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:44

Since like you think, since when?

Social Media, Clips, And Crowd Work Trends

SPEAKER_00 25:47

So I he he died back in 2011, I want to say, but um he always was just very his his method of being able to win over an audience after like pissing them off was incredible. So I got to see him live once in New York. Oh wow. And it was the day, do you remember uh the two Coreys, like Corey Haim and Corey um the day Corey Haim died, and Patrice is performing at Comics, uh C-O-M-I-X, and he was talking about uh the Haiti earthquake, and there was like another earthquake that happened that year, and he was like, Yeah, nobody cares about that other earthquake. It's like the Corey Haim of earthquakes, and like the audience, that was his first joke. Literally, this dude died hours before, but the girl was like, oh, and it just but yeah, just ripped it from there.

SPEAKER_02 26:31

Would you say, Patricia, was that like who you saw to want to do comedy, or was it a comedian even when you were a kid that you're like, this is I want to be a comedian one day?

SPEAKER_00 26:39

So I I used to watch I because I didn't think, you know, growing up in Alabama, you don't think you can do shit for real. Like uh so I I would watch like Comic View and in Living Color and stuff like that, but it it never really it never adjusted to me like, oh, that's something you can do until I was in college. And uh there's an open mic, and I just tried it out. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:59

Were you a class clown by like nature? Was it something were just a funny guy?

SPEAKER_00 27:03

Uh a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 27:04

But what was high school Martin like?

SPEAKER_00 27:05

Yeah, I was a big jock.

SPEAKER_02 27:07

Big jock. Oh, yeah. Did you play sports?

SPEAKER_00 27:10

Yeah, I played uh a little sport called uh the trombone.

SPEAKER_01 27:12

Oh, yeah. And I was a cheerleader. No, I got along with band. Hello.

SPEAKER_00 27:29

No, yeah, I was I was a big band geek, but uh I was like, I was silly, and then I kind of figured out my funny like 11th and 12th grade, and that just kind of carried over. So I was like the funny, the funny black friend.

SPEAKER_02 27:41

Yeah, okay. Wait, did you go to a predominantly white school? I mean, I did two. I was one of two, but we were both mixed. So it was one of us total.

SPEAKER_00 27:51

We had, I think, 17 black kids in my school.

SPEAKER_02 27:53

And how big was your graduating school, or how big was your school?

SPEAKER_00 27:56

Uh it was like a decent, we were one is it 1A? Is that what you call it? When it's like kind of a bigger school. Oh we were kind of big. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:04

We were. We mean our whole K3 through 12 was in one building and we were like a hundred. Like my I graduated with 12 people.

SPEAKER_00 28:11

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_02 28:12

What? Yeah, 12 people? 12 people.

SPEAKER_00 28:14

All y'all could have done a speech.

SPEAKER_01 28:17

Everyone was valedictory in that year.

SPEAKER_02 28:19

I was validatory in that year. Of course she was. I said one of the 12 people of the smartest one in that class. Don't take that from me.

SPEAKER_01 28:28

Oh my god. Oh, okay. So what style of comedy do you wish audience? Wait, hold on.

SPEAKER_02 28:33

Before you get that, what's an up and coming, like what's a up and coming comedian that we're talking about? Because I am curious. Oh I think that Veronica chick is someone who's been great. Who? Hello, Veronica girl. She's now on SNL, but she's really big on TikTok. Oh, yeah. I think she's got like this, she could be like a Kristen Wig or a you know, she's kind of in that. She's funny. Yeah. I think she's hilarious.

SPEAKER_00 28:53

Um, dude, I I would even say like some of the people I just saw in Birmingham, like and even though like I came up with them seeing them kind of rock it out, like number one, Roy Jr., I think is the funniest person in the world right now, and he doesn't get the credit he deserves.

SPEAKER_02 29:05

Umrated right now.

SPEAKER_00 29:08

Oh, easily, easily. But like he always has something new or something like local or fresh or political or whatever. And I he has a show on CNN right now, but he's so he's like so brilliant. Um, but this guy, there's this guy Kenny, Kenny Henson from Birmingham, who was like really, really funny. And uh this guy Treymo, who when I saw him, he was like more of a like online comic, but like he destroyed it. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_02 29:35

Go and watch some comedy.

SPEAKER_00 29:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:38

Um, what style of comedy do you wish audiences understood a little bit better?

SPEAKER_00 29:44

All of it. Yeah, the one the ones where they pay to see it.

SPEAKER_02 29:49

Yeah. Yeah. Does that baffle you still that people come buy a ticket to come see a specific comedian and then somehow get really pissed off at what the comedians are are saying on stage? Like to me that's just baffling to me.

SPEAKER_00 30:00

Yeah. Yeah, no, it's it's that's but I I think people just in some regard kind of want to be offended or want to be uh held to a different standard of like how they are supposed to be viewed as an audience member. Like, no, that you can make fun of these things, but not this thing that's important to me. Right, right.

SPEAKER_02 30:17

And we have selective outrage, and then there's a whole like, I just it's so frustrating.

SPEAKER_01 30:20

I couldn't imagine being in your shoes sometimes, just having to like yeah, it's like being on stage when you walk onto that stage. What's the first thing you feel? Do you still get nervous? Or is it just like, you know what? I'm gonna let the cards fall where they may and hope for the best, and I'm doing my best. Like that's that.

SPEAKER_00 30:37

Yeah, the way I kind of view it is like the worst thing people can do is not laugh. Right.

SPEAKER_01 30:41

And that is really bad though.

SPEAKER_02 30:43

Yeah, but nice.

SPEAKER_00 30:44

If you think about it, the majority of your day is people not laughing, right? Like if you're in a conversation and someone's not laughing, you're not like, Why are you not laughing in my words?

SPEAKER_01 30:52

I am, I am not laughing. I I do overthink when I speak about it about what they're thinking?

SPEAKER_02 30:58

Yeah. Well, she she has this thing. That's what do you call it your dinosaur laugh, whatever? Yes. I think both of us laugh at ourselves before anybody else laughs, is like this protection little thing. Yeah, we do it often.

SPEAKER_01 31:08

And I try honest enough, you'll see it. I'm trying not to do that anymore. But I'm gonna do it right now. It's like I I don't know. Yeah, I think it's like a nervous thing, a nervous tick for me. I think you're always really funny. Thank you. Yeah, you're vice versa.

SPEAKER_00 31:21

And you shouldn't cover up your laugh.

SPEAKER_01 31:23

No, it's such a good laugh. I know. It's just it's sometimes she's it's a lot. No, it's never too much.

SPEAKER_00 31:28

That's what people want.

SPEAKER_01 31:29

I know. I know. I think we should have Vanessa on a comedy stage and like two minutes. I don't know. I mean, I think I could, I remember do having to do uh an audition for a film one time, and it was all improv, but they gave us the scenario, the scene. And it was basically this girl who was a pop star and she was going to do her album cover, but she wore these pants that gave her a huge camel toe. And so my scene was like explaining to my record label like camel toes are in. Like, you want this on there, I promise you, like blah, blah, blah. And I remember like, I was like, dang, that's actually pretty funny. I was really proud of myself. I didn't book it, but I got a call back and I was like in the running and but um I didn't get it, which is totally fine. But I remember being like, oh, and I I researched camel toes. I researched, yeah, I researched like what like I was like, you know, moose knuckles are in, guys, like they're in, you know, like just like and it was so fun. And yes, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 32:36

Maybe one day we should just bring this.

SPEAKER_01 32:38

Maybe one day maybe, maybe that's my first stand-up is talking about camel toes.

SPEAKER_02 32:43

That's late for work.

SPEAKER_01 32:44

Yeah, late for work is gonna be the perfect place to do that. So what is late for work for those who don't know? That people don't who for those who don't know.

SPEAKER_00 32:51

Yeah, late for work is uh the show Sundays at the Hollywood Improv, uh usually 9 15 p.m. Uh Chris Burns is our head producer, me and Mateen help out as well. Mateen usually hosts it, but yeah, it's Sundays at the improv, great show, always a great lineup. And and maybe you'll be practically right.

SPEAKER_02 33:09

So we should look into that.

SPEAKER_00 33:10

Yeah, Kaylee did our Netflix as a joke show.

SPEAKER_02 33:13

So after I landed from I was where was I? I was overseas, like in France or some shit.

SPEAKER_00 33:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:18

Landed. Oh, it did my my song, but I still never really posted publicly.

SPEAKER_00 33:22

Oh, that's right. Yeah, or you use my little shitty projector.

Influences, Favorites, And Early Inspirations

SPEAKER_02 33:25

Yeah, yes, thank you so much. Yeah, so I was like, I need a projector and a song where I went through my DMs and pulled some of the most disgusting ones, screenshot of them, and put them in a slide, and we had a projector, and then I sang it to the tune of when a when a man loves a woman, when a stand loves a woman, and just read all of the you know, I should post it. I never did because I was nervous. Yes, because it was really inappropriate, but like it wasn't like I was saying either.

SPEAKER_00 33:48

Yeah, these yeah, you have lunatic. Honestly, it was funny because there's someone who sent me a DM uh like late last night about they're like, tell Kayla my brother wants to see her. And I was like, I'm not doing that at all.

SPEAKER_01 34:02

Well, you just told me and he's probably watching, so thanks. Sorry guys. All right, are we ready to?

SPEAKER_02 34:11

No, we have yeah, a few more questions. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm like, I'm so excited. You want to play this remote? I'm so excited to play some. Okay, so obviously late for work. Y'all just revamped it, though. So what's different about late for work for people who want to come check it out?

SPEAKER_00 34:23

Uh so we we got Sean Dickerson now working with it, and he he's like a big promoter, and he uh, you know, like just literally the the vibe of it shifted like almost overnight. Uh different lighting, different mood. We have a DJ now, we have a liquor sponsorship. So yeah. So if you want to come to the VIP, yeah, we do.

SPEAKER_02 34:42

Absolutely. And we also heard, I don't know if we're allowed to say this or not, we can cut it if not, but y'all had a very special random uh guest show up and do comedy this past one. I've heard of it.

SPEAKER_00 34:52

Nicky Glazer? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:53

I don't know if we were allowed to say, I gotta y'all took everybody's phones before she got up there. Yeah, she was like prepping jokes before the Golden Globes, yeah, that's so good. Did you know she was coming this whole time?

SPEAKER_00 35:02

Or did she just I I knew, yeah, but uh but the audience didn't. The audience, I won't as far as I know.

SPEAKER_02 35:07

Yeah, yeah. Have you met? Have you worked with her before?

SPEAKER_00 35:09

I've I've done shows with her, I've met her a couple of times. She's very, very nice.

SPEAKER_02 35:12

She's so good. Yeah, she's just I don't know, I just love her. She just gets it. She's as far as roasting people, I will watch any roast she ever does, like for the end of time.

SPEAKER_00 35:20

She's very fluid, too. That's the cool part about it.

SPEAKER_02 35:22

What do you think it says about a room? Um, like when comics like that feel comfortable sliding through and wanting to test out some jokes, like for her wanting to do that at late for work, I think says a lot about you guys.

SPEAKER_00 35:31

Yeah, I think it shows that you know there's a lot of trust that's been built up, uh, not only with our show, but with our fan base and with the people that come out and the audience that we try to curate. You know, even if it's like 20 people there, if it's 200, like it's gonna be a good time.

SPEAKER_01 35:44

Absolutely. What makes a comedy night feel special versus just stacked?

SPEAKER_00 35:49

Oh, that's a really good question. I I think what makes it feel special is uh just the connection. Because trust me, there's been rooms I've been in where it's like packed and you know they could care less, or where the lineup is like all headliners and they are like, yeah, but we want to hear about this or we want to see that. So sometimes it's just a matter of that connection, that that one moment, that spark that like gets it going from the top.

SPEAKER_02 36:13

We'll definitely be at late for work very soon, and you guys make sure you guys check it out as well. And now Vanessa's over here just like we gotta play this burger and game with Markden. So we're bringing it back for the first time.

SPEAKER_01 36:24

We are, I think that's why I'm so excited because we haven't played this game in a very long time. We haven't.

SPEAKER_02 36:31

Really? I don't know the last person we played it with. I mean, we still we'll sip on our own, but we don't really play this.

SPEAKER_01 36:37

Yeah, we we sip, we don't even have to spill it, we just sip it.

SPEAKER_02 36:40

But you know, read the read the until this is sip or spill. Read the instructions, please.

SPEAKER_01 36:45

Yes. Okay, so you must answer directly. If the question asks for a name, you must give the name. Oh if you dodge generalize or reframe, you have to zip. Sipping is allowed, judgment is silent, but permanent. Are you ready to play? They're gonna sit. They're not they're not that bad.

SPEAKER_02 37:12

They're not that bad.

SPEAKER_00 37:13

No, it's fine. I gotta give me the bad ones. I love these cards. This is so professional.

SPEAKER_02 37:18

Thank you. We're gonna order some more.

SPEAKER_01 37:20

I know. They've been through a lot. I have been through a lot. Okay, okay. Zip or spill. Let's start this game, folks. Oh, yeah, we're gonna grab more. All right. This one's not that bad. So don't worry about it. No, it starts. Starts easy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 37:35

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 37:36

He's getting ready. The city that humbles every comedian.

SPEAKER_00 37:41

LA.

SPEAKER_01 37:42

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 37:43

Yeah. Really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:45

We're a bunch of assholes, huh? You think over New York City?

SPEAKER_00 37:47

I think LA over New York City. New York New York City, because I think it's kind of more known for stand-up, whereas here is known for celebrities, or fame rather. So uh so yeah, I think like especially if there's a night where you're following someone famous, or there was one time the the I forgot the guy's name, the kid who was like Coach Carter's son.

SPEAKER_03 38:06

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 38:06

Was in the audience. It was like my first time performing in LA. And I was like, I want to look cool. So I took my glasses off when I was performing, but I couldn't see a good goddamn thing. And he was like heckling me, and but I couldn't see his face uh until afterwards when I put my glasses back on. And then like the next comic was like, Are you fucking Coach Carter's son? And started roasting him over that. And I was like, Oh man, I wish I would have done.

SPEAKER_02 38:28

So you like weren't nervous, you didn't see who it was. Like you wanted to like blind yourself.

SPEAKER_00 38:31

No, I was trying to look cool. I was like, Yeah, this is this is different from our regular face. So I wore my glasses on stage ever since then.

Late For Work: Format, Vibe, And Surprise Sets

SPEAKER_02 38:40

Oh, really? Yeah, you look great in glasses. I know, I love your glasses. Okay, what's the worst bomb you've ever had on stage? And you knew within like 10 seconds, this was like, oh, that's gonna be hard to get back.

SPEAKER_00 38:48

Oh, dude. Uh when when I got booed off stage uh for Cat Williams.

SPEAKER_02 38:54

Wait, wait, what? Tell the story.

SPEAKER_00 38:55

So this is at the UIC Pavilion in Chicago. Okay, and uh it's like 6,000 people, and like just the energy beforehand was like, something's off. Like, this is not gonna be good. And I got asked to work clean. So I I came on stage and I had like a little suit on that I got from HM, and I was like dancing and stuff, and then uh I went in my first joke and I heard this guy go boo! And then uh and then I like tried to go to my second joke because it was like boo! I just now there was like a rain of booze, and I was supposed to do 10 minutes, ended up doing three minutes and 33 seconds.

SPEAKER_02 39:27

Oh did you just like did any of was any of that salvageable or just like is there a video of this?

SPEAKER_00 39:33

I don't I there's I would hope not. Oh, yeah, because you yeah, yeah, there probably is, but I we're gonna look it up.

SPEAKER_01 39:38

No, just kidding. I just I'm sorry, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:40

That's that's no, I mean, but this is like this is a while ago. But it and I I got a good joke out of it at least.

SPEAKER_01 39:45

Okay, see, there you go.

SPEAKER_00 39:46

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Kat was super cool, he was like a very nice guy. Love that.

SPEAKER_02 39:49

Yeah, I would love to meet Kat Williams one day.

SPEAKER_01 39:50

Okay, the most common lie comedians tell about their career.

SPEAKER_00 39:56

Uh that have a Netflix. Specials, but Mark says the most common lie about their career either that they're happy or that's so that's such a good one.

SPEAKER_02 40:13

No, lots of most oppressed people are the funniest people. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:17

Or what I've learned is the people that are like super mean on stage are always super nice offstage, and the people who are like super nice on stage are always dicks off stage.

SPEAKER_02 40:27

Okay, no, a couple I can tell. I'm not, I mean, I'm not in the Hossie, but I can list a couple of those.

SPEAKER_00 40:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:31

Um, who's a famous comedian who was way weirder or meaner than you expected?

SPEAKER_00 40:36

Way weirder or meaner than I expected.

SPEAKER_02 40:39

Um I love the name though.

SPEAKER_00 40:44

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm trying, that's what I'm trying to think. Um oh, it does it have to be a famous person?

SPEAKER_02 40:50

Uh someone that people wouldn't know, I feel like.

SPEAKER_00 40:52

Uh we don't have the tea, like Chris Elia, for example.

SPEAKER_01 40:55

Yeah, we need the tea. You can't just give us some rando.

SPEAKER_00 40:58

Yeah, because well, that's it. Like, because I'm trying to think, like who every everyone who's been who I know that you would know has always been cool to me.

SPEAKER_02 41:06

Okay, that's fine.

SPEAKER_00 41:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:07

That's okay. Yeah. But if you have someone, if you have a name you want to throw out there, we can look him up afterwards. So is there someone you want to say?

SPEAKER_00 41:13

Uh there is it, but he's he's dead now, so it doesn't really matter. But but no, I don't care because I didn't like him. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 41:19

Yeah, then say it. He's he and he's dead. Yeah, he's dead, he's gone.

SPEAKER_00 41:23

Yeah. There is a show. So I would see him out a lot, and like he was kind of like LA famous, but he was uh now okay. It was his name was Big Mike. Okay, and I did a show for him. Black eye.

SPEAKER_01 41:39

Black eye, wait, I think I know I think I know what you're talking about. Wait, really?

unknown 41:43

I think so.

SPEAKER_00 41:44

Yeah. Okay, keep going. Yeah, but he's a look at that. He booked me for the show, and um, and so I went and did the show, and like he promoted me, it was on the post, and he kept being like, make sure you bring people, make sure you bring people. So I brought like hella people, and then like he was just getting drunk the whole time. And as the night was going on, I was he was like, All right, we got two comics left. And mind you, at that point I've been there for like two hours with all my friends, and I was like, and I noticed there was like three other comics that were there, and I was like, Hey, I just wanted to check, like, am I still going up? And he goes, Let me take a piss and I'll be right back. So he walked off, he goes to his bathroom, he comes back, and he like walks past me and he's like talking to some other dude, but he's like clearly talking shit about me. Uh and so I'm not like a confrontational person, but I go, hey man, like what's you know, just checking what's up. He goes, All right, you got two options. You can either square up or come back next week. And I was like, What? What? He was like, either square up or come back next week. Like, I'm not about to fight you.

SPEAKER_01 42:35

Why would you why would you want to fight you? But like, what the hell?

SPEAKER_00 42:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:40

Sounds like sounds like drugs to me. Or something, something was on.

SPEAKER_00 42:44

Rest in peace, but yeah, but no, it's funny because like I told that story at the Haha Comedy Club, like, this is now like maybe a year ago, and his daughter does stand up now. And I didn't know his daughter did stand up. And uh, and she and like when she mentioned her dad, I was like, Oh, that's that guy I was just talking about on stage. She's like, Yeah, he kind of was a dick. I go, Okay, good. Thank god.

SPEAKER_01 43:04

At least even his own daughter agreed that he was a dick.

SPEAKER_00 43:08

Yeah, but our RAP big mic. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:10

There were some redeeming qualities. Okay. Is crowd work culture helping stand-up or hurting it? And why? Example, Matt Rife.

SPEAKER_00 43:19

You guys really like Matt Rife here.

SPEAKER_02 43:21

This is a great example, too.

SPEAKER_00 43:22

Yeah. Uh I I think it I think it's oh, that's tough. It's helped individuals uh who don't want to post clips of like their actual jokes, but I think it's hurt the rest of us that are just like writers or want to just do, you know, bits or or just want to get through a 30 or 45 minute set without having to like talk to people. Right. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_02 43:46

Well, you think I mean this is a side note, but do you think uh pre-written or just staying on track comedy is easier or harder than crowd work? Or is it just subjective, I guess?

SPEAKER_00 43:55

I think it's subjective because I I hate I I can't just write out a set and do that exact set. I hate having to do that. I I usually have like a start point and an end point, and then whatever else happens, happens. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 44:04

And you have bullet points, obviously, but like sometimes like at the end of the thing. It's like, yeah, if you feel out the crowd, you're just gonna like let it go.

SPEAKER_00 44:12

No, I don't even do bullet points anymore.

SPEAKER_01 44:13

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 44:14

Yeah, I I throw it all out at the I I used to. Uh and if it's like a show that's like like a clean show or something like that, usually I try to you know, curate a little bit better. But typically it's like, oh, you know, uh let me just fill it out and have fun.

SPEAKER_02 44:25

See, that's the level. If I ever did comedy again, like that's where like I would want to be. You get booked for three shows a weekend, you don't have to like sit for hours figuring out what you're gonna say. You just go up there and you do your thing and you walk off stage. Yeah, that's the dream, Martin.

SPEAKER_00 44:36

Yeah, just have fun with it.

SPEAKER_02 44:37

Um, what is uh blah blah blah blah blah? What is the your least favorite city to do comedy in?

unknown 44:44

Oh god.

SPEAKER_02 44:45

What city sucks?

SPEAKER_00 44:47

What city sucks?

SPEAKER_02 44:48

What city sucks? What the people stink?

SPEAKER_00 44:52

Uh I I wouldn't say they suck, but like Portland, I always end up walking away making fun of them.

SPEAKER_01 45:00

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 45:01

Yeah.

Sip Or Spill: War Stories, Lies, And Lines You Won’t Cross

SPEAKER_01 45:01

So like I think the last time I did Portland, I was like, is it because like of the people in the room or just the overall, like it's it feels it feels performative.

SPEAKER_00 45:12

Uh okay. I I I have a joke now where I say, like, if you had a kid in like element, if you like a kid from your class who was like, I have a pet turtle, they all moved to Portland.

SPEAKER_02 45:21

Right.

SPEAKER_00 45:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 45:22

Got it. Yeah. These are these aren't hard enough. What if I'm gonna start going off going off the cuff here? Because you're not sweet enough. Okay, which one of your friends do you hate the most? Chris Burns, my teen.

SPEAKER_00 45:33

Both equals well, how about this?

SPEAKER_01 45:36

Like a comedian who is more famous than actually funny in your eyes. Oh, that's a good one.

SPEAKER_00 45:42

Oh, wow. That's a good one. Um, uh Jamie Kennedy.

SPEAKER_02 45:47

Like James Kennedy? Oh no. No, James from Scream. Oh, Jamie Kennedy. Jamie Kennedy. Okay, I was gonna say James Kennedy. That's a good one. That's a good one.

SPEAKER_03 45:56

Who's James Kennedy?

SPEAKER_02 45:57

Oh, that Dish from Vanderpump Rules.

SPEAKER_03 45:59

Oh, I didn't even know.

SPEAKER_02 46:00

Yeah, he came up to us once in a bar and was like, I was trolling him because I both pretended like we didn't know who he was. Everyone knows who this guy is because he's annoying. Then he like lifts up his shirt. I'm James DJ James Kennedy. Yeah, and he like touches her face.

SPEAKER_01 46:13

Yeah, he like tried, he tried to show us his apps, and I'm like, okay, cool, bro. Like, I love that you work out. 37-year-old man, by the way. We're at the naughty page. Yes. Yeah, we were having just a good old time. And here he comes, and we're just like, no one cares. No one cares. And then he started telling us his how much he makes per DJ set, and I was like, and both of us are like, oh, okay, well. We never watched that show that is either. Yeah, but like it was so fun because both of us were like we were just like, who DJ for what? You were in Van.

SPEAKER_02 46:40

I watched every season. You were in there.

SPEAKER_01 46:42

And he was so mad, but it was so fun.

SPEAKER_00 46:45

But sorry, sorry.

SPEAKER_02 46:46

So Jamie, yes, Jamie K. Well, I'm gonna thank my answer.

SPEAKER_00 46:48

Rob Schneider.

SPEAKER_02 46:50

Okay. Yeah. Wait, what about last? Oh, you don't think he's funny? I could see that.

SPEAKER_03 46:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 46:53

I think that era, there's only a few of them that actually think like Adam Sandler. Amazing. I thought you know, he's Adam Sandler, but a few of those comedians back in the era, I thought probably were more famous and funny. I thought you were about to say Adam Sandler was not funny.

SPEAKER_01 47:05

I think he's really a big Adam Sandler.

SPEAKER_02 47:07

I think, yeah, I was gonna but that over-the-top comment back then was just like ah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 47:13

Okay. I'm just making noises, you know, yes.

SPEAKER_02 47:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 47:15

Well, why don't kids do this anymore? Like, because fucking the time is I know, exactly. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 47:20

Um, okay, well, I guess you kind of answered this one. A room you walked into and immediately thought, I do not want to be here. Was that in Portland?

SPEAKER_00 47:28

No. Um, oh, dude, there is a show I did. Um, I wish it was like in uh uh like East Hollywood, East LA area. And uh yeah, it just was like, I've I I hate. I was I asked to go up early because I had another show, and they started the show Mad Late, and the lighting was terrible, and then like they finally turned the lights on like at the end of my set, and I was like, that's when you fucking do this, and just the whole the whole vibe was off. I felt I was like, I was pissed.

SPEAKER_02 48:00

Also on that. Uh I know for me when I would go to comedy shows, I didn't know who was on stage. There's something like women have a thing for comedians. How often are you like after you get off stage, you're getting propositioned by like girls that are or guys that are in the audience and want a little Martin? Want a little Martin. I mean, or both in both, you know. I mean, yeah. Wanna have your babies and also, you know, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:22

I it it doesn't happen as often. I think like seven or eight years ago, it happened a lot more. Um, because I think people were just a little bit more like, oh, who gives a fuck? But I think now it's not as not as like frequent of like, oh yeah, I want to fuck that guy. Yeah. There was um, it was at the Laugh Factory, and there was like a girl who was like kind of filling me, and then I was like, Oh, let's follow each other on Instagram, which I think that's on me. I should just got her number. Uh but uh but yeah, she's not she did not DM me. And I was like, okay, well, whatever.

SPEAKER_01 48:51

She probably was waiting for you to DM her. No, I didn't. No, he didn't. Oh, you did. Oh, and she didn't. Oh, I see. Yeah, I see. She already had a boyfriend.

SPEAKER_00 48:59

She said, well, she said she was single in the office.

SPEAKER_02 49:01

Okay, so no one who's ever said they were single was lying.

SPEAKER_01 49:04

Okay. Very valuable. I mean, that's yeah, I listened to enough true crime to know that's a lie. I just didn't have enough friends where I know that's a lie.

SPEAKER_00 49:13

Welcome to LA.

SPEAKER_02 49:15

Welcome to LA. Okay, a couple more.

SPEAKER_01 49:17

Okay, one comedy rule everyone pretends is scared. Sacred. I'm sorry, sacred. I I guess my sister cup is almost empty. Um, and I am dyslexic. So there's that. That's that. One comedy rule everyone pretends is sacred. Not scared, but is actually bullshit.

SPEAKER_00 49:41

Uh don't fuck other comedians.

SPEAKER_02 49:44

That's oh, oh, that is bullshit.

SPEAKER_00 49:46

Yeah, they a lot of people say, like, oh, never fuck another comic. And then you see them all.

SPEAKER_02 49:52

That'd be like a I mean, I guess like anything, like in wrestling. We like, don't fuck the other everyone's banking and everyone's swapping private juices.

SPEAKER_00 49:59

Yeah, but we we make that like into like a hard and fast rule, but like everyone really, I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 50:04

Okay, interesting.

SPEAKER_00 50:04

Yeah. Every holiday party, you're like, okay, well, now we know who Do like all the community together for holiday parties?

SPEAKER_02 50:10

Like, y'all, I don't want to go to one of these. That sounds like so much fun. Well, you have to you have to do stand-up comedy. I have done it before. Well, I have done one movie, I got a sag card. So where's my I thought you've called me once, so I gotta call me a couple of times. So where is your ticket to the holiday party?

SPEAKER_00 50:25

Next December.

SPEAKER_03 50:26

You'd be over here.

SPEAKER_02 50:28

Um, okay, last but not least, a comedian you respect, but you would never follow on social media.

SPEAKER_00 50:33

A comedian I respect, but would never follow on social media.

SPEAKER_02 50:36

Or they're annoying doesn't even want to see them.

SPEAKER_01 50:38

Like you're like, damn, they're good, but like also like fuck off. I don't want to like see you all the time.

SPEAKER_00 50:43

Uh there's a I I but I know he's gonna see it and he's gonna be a little bit he's gonna complain about it.

SPEAKER_01 50:48

You can tell because you didn't sip all episodes though. But I know the people want now.

SPEAKER_00 50:53

I uh fuck. Because I know he's gonna make it over a thing, because I know he'll see it. Um free will here.

SPEAKER_01 51:00

He took his glasses off, so he's scary. He didn't want to see us when he says it.

SPEAKER_00 51:05

You know what? Fuck it. All right.

SPEAKER_01 51:06

Oh we're gonna do it. First one never that the entire you know what? Just sip or just sip for that. He's like, I'm still gonna tell you the answer that I love it.

SPEAKER_00 51:17

Okay, how about this? I won't say his name, but I guarantee you'll figure it out by the clues. So he became like very conservative, like, but in a like weird way, and he unfollowed everybody. So he has the he follows zero people.

SPEAKER_01 51:34

Um I hate that, by the way. Yeah, don't make me a fan. I just hate that. That's like, what are you?

SPEAKER_00 51:41

But I think I anytime I've seen him on stage, I'm like, oh, this guy's funny, but I I can't I can't follow him.

SPEAKER_02 51:46

Would I know who he was?

SPEAKER_00 51:47

You've yeah, you've definitely met him. He used to date a wrestler uh who may or not maybe a friend of yours.

SPEAKER_02 51:55

Oh, oh, I know exactly what you're talking about. Yes, okay. I want to know. We'll ask you that. We'll both have it.

SPEAKER_00 52:02

But I know but I know him well enough to know he'd fucking crash out about it.

SPEAKER_02 52:06

If okay.

SPEAKER_00 52:06

Oh fuck it. Jeff Die. Yeah, well, if he wants to talk about it, we can talk about it.

SPEAKER_02 52:11

Actually, Jeff, Jeff Dye, come on the show and uh we can talk about it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 52:15

And I I I like him as a as a human. I think he can be a sweet person, and but I think he's funny. But yeah, his his social media shit is like that.

SPEAKER_02 52:23

That's all I get, especially when people are over the top when they're conservative bullshit in like that far direction. Yeah, I have to like at least mute them. I have plenty of friends, I have to do that too as well. So we can respect you, but not at the same time. Exactly. Um, well, that was fun. What do you think? Did you like being on Milk and Honeys finally?

SPEAKER_00 52:40

Oh, yeah. I don't know if I told you, but this is you guys are in my Spotify rap, like topic. Are we?

SPEAKER_02 52:45

You listen to it. Yeah. You listen to our show. Yes. Oh my god, Martin. I didn't know that. Yes. Thank you. That's really nice. No, that's I'm glad you're our first guest of the of the year. I know. I'm glad you're. He's now been on all my podcasts. My only guest on the first one.

SPEAKER_01 53:00

Okay, Martin, tell us where can people see you, watch you, support late for work on all of your Yes, late for work, uh Sundays at the Hollywood Improv.

Cities, Crowd Energy, And Offstage Encounters

SPEAKER_00 53:10

Uh, follow me at Martin and Morrow on TikTok, on Instagram, on all that stuff. Uh, also, if you're into the San Diego area, I'm at Madhouse Comedy Club on Sunday, January 18th. So come check me out, get your tickets, and uh it's right after this this airs.

SPEAKER_02 53:25

Um, and one last thing before you go, just because we have to get this out since the NASA hasn't watched yet. Heated rivalry in 60 seconds or less. Let her know what it's about and why she should watch it and everybody else. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 53:35

Yes, heated rivalry is on HBO. It's uh it's a show about these two like rival hockey players who may or may not get embroiled in a steamy affair. Okay. Uh but it it's it's like good, it's positive, it's uh sexy as hell. Uh, but a fun, fun show. Like just a good, like, I can't wait.

SPEAKER_02 53:55

I can't believe you've never heard of it. No.

SPEAKER_00 53:57

A lot of people have either never heard of it or it's like their number one show.

SPEAKER_02 54:00

Right. I love like men, like even my girlfriends who are married uh to their very straight husbands. We'll sit and watch it with them. So it's not like one of these people are like, oh, it's gay, and I'm a homophobe, and you're just like showing who you are. Straight men can watch it too. It's a great if you need to like look away for a little bit. I mean, I did not look away.

SPEAKER_03 54:16

But I love it.

SPEAKER_00 54:18

Start doing squats.

SPEAKER_02 54:19

Like, I gotta get it. Literally, like, I gotta get my ass together at all. Um, but yes, go watch that. But anyway, Martin, thank you so much for joining us. This was so much fun. Proud of you and excited to see all your success this year.

SPEAKER_00 54:29

You as well. Thank you. Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 54:32

So, uh, everybody, thank you for watching.

SPEAKER_01 54:34

And uh and remember, Milk and Honeys is still pouring the tea into the new year. That's right.

SPEAKER_02 54:40

We'll see you all next week.

SPEAKER_01 54:41

Bye.