Episode 43: Carlye Tamaren Does Everything (And It’s Annoying)

Carlye Tamaren does not believe in picking one lane. Actor, director, writer, dancer—she’s done it all, and she’s not waiting around for permission from anyone. You’ve seen her in Dexter: Original Sin, Criminal Minds, and How to Get Away with Murder, but behind the scenes she’s building her own projects through her production company, Not Your Daddy’s Films.

We talk about what it actually takes to survive in Hollywood, the reality of booking roles versus creating your own opportunities, and how her perspective on success has evolved over time. Plus, what it’s like stepping into a massive fan-favorite franchise like Dexter, and why more creatives are choosing to bet on themselves instead of waiting for the industry to catch up.

Watch now on YouTube or listen wherever you get your favorite podcasts.

Transcript

Meet Carly Tamarin

SPEAKER_03 0:09

Episode 42. Crazy. Carly Tamron is the definition of do it all. Actor, director, writer, dancer, martial artist, casually. You've seen her in Dexter, Original Sin, How to Get Away with Murder, and Criminal Minds. But behind the scenes, she's building her own creative empire with her production company and original projects. We talk about surviving Hollywood, refusing to be put in a box, what it's like working inside major TV worlds versus creating your own, and her role in the newly revived HBO series, The Comeback, which I'm so excited about.

SPEAKER_02 0:47

So thank you, Carly, for making us feel very underqualified. But welcome to the show. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 0:54

Yeah, like I thought I was busy until I read your Bible and I was like, okay, I need to lie down. But we all need to nap.

SPEAKER_02 1:01

Right? But like what don't you do? Right. One thing.

SPEAKER_00 1:04

Um, nap. Knit.

SPEAKER_02 1:06

Knit. Prove knit. A knitting podcast should be your next thing. Yeah. I would be like, nah, I don't know what to say.

SPEAKER_03 1:13

Please, everyone, welcome. I was gonna say Cameron. Carly. Cameron!

SPEAKER_02 1:20

But I'm not even joking. Like when people like talk about all your accolades, but you have many. Name like two or three things that you do not do yet that you want to do. Ooh. Because you're covering all the bases right now.

SPEAKER_01 1:32

You really are. Eventually, at some point in my life, I would like to showrun a show. Really? Oh, okay. Yes. Like something that I created be the showrunner.

SPEAKER_02 1:42

Love that.

SPEAKER_01 1:42

Which is insanity. I'm gonna have to take 47 naps until then. But very doable. I can do it, right? Yeah. Yes, you can. I don't know. Absolutely. Absolutely freaking literally. Yeah, that and ooh, what else? Jobs, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:57

Just like um the craziest thing you think of. Like a pro skydiver, you know? I've never, I've not done that.

SPEAKER_01 2:05

I feel scared.

Refusing To Choose One Lane

SPEAKER_02 2:06

I want to do a my birth my 35th birthday is in June. And I want all my friends to go skydiving with me.

SPEAKER_01 2:11

I haven't told you yet. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 2:13

I love that. I'm down. I'm so down.

SPEAKER_01 2:15

I'm scared, but I also would be down. Yeah. Well, I just like, you know, I would like dare myself after that. Be like, why are you scared? Right? It's like talk shit to yourself. Yeah, yeah. Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 2:25

Do you feel pressure to pick one thing, or do you feel like you have fully like rejected that idea?

SPEAKER_01 2:32

You know, for a long time I did feel like that. And I'm 36. So like I feel like my growing up in the entertainment business has been now deciding, because that's the first thing everyone always asks me. And now I'm like, yeah, I'm not picking. Like, I'm not picking. Especially between like acting and directing, those two things. Like, I don't have to, and now like we've watched it be done successfully. Like, it's not crazy. I think like a creative is a creative is a creative. And like we shouldn't have to choose, but but then you have to back it up and like actually know what you're doing. Because I'm an actor, I felt like I've had to put myself through film school in a way. And that's like sort of what I've done through my company. So that I can definitely stand there and be like, yeah, I can direct. Yeah, yes like I'm not fucking around.

SPEAKER_02 3:23

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 3:23

You know, absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 3:24

So when you see that coming up in the industry, what's your background? Like, how how did you get into it?

SPEAKER_01 3:29

So I started as a dancer. Yes. I started as a concert dancer, like Alvin Ailey, modern dance, jazz, tap. Um, I went to college for musical theater. So I'm a little musical theater nerd, baby. What college did you attend? Michigan, University of Michigan. They have like a crazy musical theater program. Really? It's so intense. It's like 10 boys, 10 girls. I got there and I was like very hard to get into. Yeah. Amazing. I was like, how did I get here? Um, but it was amazing. It was really good training. And but I sort of started falling in love with film and TV and just like there's so much more you can do. I was like, I don't want to be like a chorus girl on Broadway forever that then works her way up and like and get pick and hold into something. Yes. And the types of roles are like so minimal. Whereas like film and TV can be all kinds of things.

SPEAKER_02 4:19

The range is very, very is your family like your family in the whole industry as well, or no? My parents are both psychologists. Oh, that's interesting. We can unpack that.

SPEAKER_03 4:32

I'm sure that plays a really cool role for acting. Yeah. Right? Just to like I'm sure you've heard all of their stories, all of the things that they've had. I mean, obviously, I know as a psychologist, you're not supposed to like oh no, they tell us everything. Sorry to blow up their spot.

SPEAKER_01 4:48

No, that was like our dinner table conversations every single night growing up was like just unpacking like the wildest stories um of like human behavior and why people do what they do. And so now I realize like, oh yeah, duh. Yes. Like that translates so well.

SPEAKER_03 5:04

Yeah. So um have you used, have you had to use some of like their stories into your acting roles before?

Dance Training To Film And TV

SPEAKER_01 5:12

You know, I really book a lot of like crackheads with a glow up. Like that's like really my bread and butter. I love that. And what I'll do is, you know, depending on the drug, depending on whatever, like I'll call my parents and talk to them each because they're very different, like in how they practice. But I'll be like, okay, what like what are like things that like a meth head does? Or like what's the thing? That's such a good resource to have though. That's insane. Yeah, and then it's like those little specific things, like what little ticks does a meth head have versus well, I you know, crack. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 5:49

I played a meth head in a movie. There we go. My mom was actually a meth head. So perfect. So great way to use that. My mom, how do I like this thing?

SPEAKER_01 6:00

No, but like literally, it's like those details.

SPEAKER_03 6:03

Yes, they actually matter, you guys. Because like we're uh we are fortunately, unfortunately, not those things. So like we have to personally to be those things, you know? So it's a lot. But it's a great lot.

SPEAKER_02 6:15

But you didn't come fucking like your family, they weren't entertainers, they're not entertainers, but they understood it and like respected it and supported you doing it.

SPEAKER_01 6:21

Love it. Like my mom, like we watched every uh movie musical growing up. Like she loves it, her first one loves it.

SPEAKER_03 6:29

Gosh, I mean, I think or the one that you were stuck with you the most, that you remember the most.

SPEAKER_01 6:35

I mean my first live musical I ever saw. Yes, 20 years ago. I mean, West Side Story, oh my god, Oklahoma, like all of those classic, like back to like the golden age musicals, those movies. Um I mean, just all of them. Like that was on repeat. Yeah, that's all we watched. And then my dad was in musicals in high school. Okay, and so he'll be like, yeah, I'm a singer. Is he? I don't know. I don't know, but all four, I have four siblings. We're all musical. Like we all took piano and voice lessons growing up. Like, are you the oldest? I'm the oldest, yeah. And my brother um lives in LA too, and he has a band. He went to USC film school. Like, so we do a lot of stuff together, which is really fun. It's very special, really.

SPEAKER_03 7:21

But yeah, uh, I love that. So you you started in dance and gymnastics, yes, um, and musical theater. Was acting always the goal when you first started, or like was it just Hollywood?

SPEAKER_01 7:32

It was a fun Hollywood not at all. Really? I was like, I'm gonna be on Broadway. I mean, I just when I started dancing, I was just like, I know this is what I want to do. But I also there was a time when I was applying to schools. I also got into USC for broadcast journalism. That was my degree. Which yes, which I really feel like has come back around in the podcasting and like hosting world too. Um, so that was like gonna be another life path. And then acting sort of came through like the dance and musical theater stuff. But I never was like, I want to be famous, I wanna, you know, be in Hollywood. Yeah. It just kind of like kept kind of moving that way. And I was just like, I'm just gonna let it. I can't just ride the way. I love a you know, like an ADD rabbit hole dive. We are. I will be like so intensely danced, so intensely musical theater, and like then I went to film and TV, you know.

SPEAKER_03 8:26

So well it all goes hands in hand psycho. No, no, I'm gonna direct ADD. So like we understood.

SPEAKER_01 8:31

I mean, this and directing. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 8:33

Yeah, riding and directing, though. Yeah. That came into play when. That's hard. That's a hard, like, that's a shift. People don't understand. Like, it was a big shift.

Anger That Fueled Directing

SPEAKER_01 8:40

Yeah. Well, in like 2017, right? Yeah. 2017, I did a movie um in Savannah that was about it, it was crazy. But it was about five girls in high school, and I was like a little bit older, but I looked young. So they thought I probably was like 20. Yeah. But like I was 27 at the time. So I was just like, what's going on? Like, I think I could clock things in a really different way. Of course. And it was made by a bunch of like old white men. They're listening. Sorry, but thanks for making that. Yeah. That was, I mean, I learned, but I learned a lot. And that's when I had to learn about like SAG rules and like what's allowed. And like I ended up having to sort of like protect my girls. Yes. And I left and I was just fucking pissed. I was so fucking pissed at how everyone was treated. And like, I was like, I don't want to do this version anymore. I've been an actor for a while, like, I don't want to do this version anymore. And then dare to self, I was like, bitch, if you can I curse on this box? Yes. Oh my god. It feels like yes. Okay. I was like, bitch, if you're gonna keep talking about this, like you better learn how to do it. And so then at the same time was when Harvey Weinstein thing happened, and then Me Too happened, all right at the same time, and I was just fucking pissed. And then I started writing and directing, like, out of that sort of anger. Like I needed a place to put it, and so smart.

SPEAKER_02 10:13

I mean, because you could go to a different way.

SPEAKER_01 10:16

You know, things that way was incredible for sure. And I didn't know what I was doing, yeah. And I'm definitely a perfectionist too, and so that was a hard, but I was so angry that I like looked past all of it and was like, you know what, this might be a fucking mess. Yep, but I'm gonna learn and I'm gonna try. And I feel like I have something that needs to like I need to say. And so I started making this like action comedy um about a group of women that like take out the shitty men of the world. Um and it was What was it called? It's like promising and women for revenge. Wait, say that again. Kind of. It's called S is for revenge. Love. Um is this made? It's been made. I yeah, I made like a little like web series. I want to watch it. I'll send it to you guys. Yeah, it's a good idea. I mean, like it's bad. It's bad, but like I think that the vision is there. You know what I mean? I made it for free, like I got all my friends, and we just kind of like started playing, and along the way I learned.

SPEAKER_03 11:17

Did you feel that um you know going into multiple things made it harder to place where you wanted to be in Hollywood, or did it actually kind of catapult you into a place where you're like now?

SPEAKER_02 11:33

Because we're all told, choose one lane, total in your lane, and you're doing 50.

SPEAKER_01 11:39

Yeah, I mean, I I think it probably did take longer, but that's my path. Exactly. You know what I mean? Like, and I don't I don't think I'm the actor that I am now, had I not sort of like done those things. Right. And for a little bit too, I was like, if I have to be a director just to like take one for the ladies, then that's what I'm gonna do. You know, like especially good minds. There was time where I was like, I don't even need to be an actor anymore. But now that I've like found this great community of women that are incredible directors, I feel like a really new found sense of like safety in entertainment. Where I'm like, I actually can just like chill the fuck out and be the actor.

SPEAKER_02 12:20

But it sounds like people get respected so much more too, because you have done all the other things. Yeah, just just actors looking at you, oh my god, she knows the fucking like yeah, right.

SPEAKER_03 12:30

Well, yeah, it's just like it's it's almost when when you're in front of the camera for so long, you understand what you need as an actor or as a model or as a dancer or whatever in front of the camera to where you can kind of take that, and now you're being behind the camera and kind of being that person for everyone in front of the camera, you know exactly what people need.

SPEAKER_01 12:52

Totally. I'm like last looks a million times, you know, and all the girlies are like, Thank you, thank you, right?

SPEAKER_02 12:58

Because people can say, but don't fucking let everything happen.

SPEAKER_03 13:01

I mean, because when it's a man the one that we just that we met on, yes, because we met on a film I can't even you know at the beginning of the year. That's how we met, and it was like we had to ask for last looks because we were like we've been sitting here for a minute. Yeah, and so we you know, we needed the we had to fight for that, you know. So I did that obviously that played a huge part for you to be able to like have a voice and behind the screen, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_01 13:29

And I think just as I practiced, the more confident I got, and the more I talk to people and like do our own my own podcast, is it's like actually nobody knows what's going on, and like time is the only thing that helps you learn. Exactly. And so, like, I kind of just learned too how to ask in a way that's like not abrasive, but like it's okay to not know. Even as a director, right, and as a director too, I remember like I had so much anxiety about like I don't know what this camera does, I don't know what this lens does, like the technical stuff. Right. And everyone's like, you do not have to know that, right? You just have to know what you want in the visual. And just don't be afraid to ask a great DP that can like explain things and not feel embarrassed to be like, I wanted to feel like this.

SPEAKER_03 14:17

Yeah, do you feel like you found like a team thus far where you could create that team and be like, oh, I feel comfortable asking and not being like a quote unquote stupid question, even though there's no stupid question.

SPEAKER_02 14:31

Also, but we're made to feel there's stupid questions. Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 14:33

Especially as a woman.

SPEAKER_02 14:34

Especially like, oh, you don't know what this is.

SPEAKER_01 14:36

Yes, it sucks. Yeah, and we have to just kind of override that. And so yeah, I do feel like I have great teams now and great people around that make me feel comfortable doing that. But at the same time, suddenly at this point, I actually feel like, oh, you think that was stupid? Right. You know what I mean? I don't care. Oh, you do like it. Like take your bad attitude off my head. Exactly. Like now you get you around now.

SPEAKER_02 15:01

Right.

SPEAKER_01 15:01

Yes. Like we're just trying to make art here.

SPEAKER_02 15:03

Like let's chill the fuck out and stop making things like it's hard enough. Like, don't make things harder for everybody.

SPEAKER_01 15:08

Truly, my grandpa used to call um it patty cake school, like musical theater school. And I think about that all the time because I'm like, damn, it's not that fucking serious. Yes, it's not that serious.

SPEAKER_03 15:18

It's we're literally playing pretend with our friends. Yes. Well, that's why like there's sometimes where I've I've heard, you know, models like complain because we're doing e-comm, and e-comm's not. E-com is basically, for those who don't know, is like you're on set, you're wearing an outfit, you're showing front side, backside. Like that's that's it, you know? And so it's not the most fun. Right, you know, it's different than a campaign, and they're complaining. And I'm like, girl, you're getting paid like pretty good money for a day just to stand here and like show off the clothes, like shut up, respectfully. Like shut up. Respectfully, shut up. Like, like, do your job and have a good day, and like let's all and get your bag.

SPEAKER_01 15:58

Get your bag. And if you feel like you want to be more fulfilled, learn how to do that because learn other skills.

SPEAKER_03 16:05

Yes, which you really have, which is so inspiring to get more into that.

Booking Big Shows Without Myths

SPEAKER_02 16:08

Honestly, I think we're gonna have a three-hour episode of you. I know.

SPEAKER_03 16:11

We've been on page three, and we're like, I know, I know.

SPEAKER_02 16:15

Don't get multiple podcast hosts together. White claw. White claw break. Yes, white call blake, white club, white claw, white. 21st white claw today. We're gonna have to see how many we can do. Okay, so you've been on uh how to go with murder, criminal minds. Uh, as an actress, what do people not understand about booking roles like that? You know? Those are like big shows.

SPEAKER_01 16:41

Yeah, I mean, I think like those, especially earlier shows that I did. Um wait, what actors not know about it? Oh, those people who want to make it and then it's really good.

SPEAKER_03 16:53

Yeah, like what do people not understand about booking those roles?

SPEAKER_01 16:57

You know, I think a few things. I'm trying to think back. Like Criminal Minds was my very first like big job. That's how I joined SAG. Okay, what did I what like surprised me then? Um just audition like a normal audition, like just normal audition. And then I got there and I remember thinking, like, oh, so they're not gonna like direct me. And when you book those types, especially like procedurals, what I didn't realize is that, oh no, you go there and you do exactly what you did. Just do what you did. They cash you for that reason. They might not hold your hand. I just remember feeling like I was like in a whirlwind of like, what's going on? You know, but like you just do exactly what you did, and then they will take it from there. But they might, not all of those procedural directors are there to like you're you're fulfilling a role. You're fulfilling like a purpose that the series regular is having an arc. Yeah, you know, like you're there for some turning point. You go in, you be respectful, you do what you do. You don't need to like overly talk, you know, like get in there, but like watch what's going on.

SPEAKER_02 18:03

Yeah, yes, yeah, you know, you watch, you know.

SPEAKER_01 18:06

And that's yes, and that's always a hard thing.

SPEAKER_02 18:09

I come from the wrestling world, which is a very like heavily respect is everything. And like the big wrestlers nowadays, everyone's on TikTok. Uh, The Undertaker was like, I'm so disappointed watching all these new wrestlers not paying attention to everybody else wrestling and TikToks. The OGs watch you totally, you know?

SPEAKER_01 18:26

Yes, yeah, and be smart too. Like, look at who is casting it, look at who's producing it. Like, go over those names. I think for me, it took a long time to like sort of put pieces together, but like eventually, I think as you're here for a long time, you start to know those people too. Absolutely. And so it's like, pay attention to who is the exec on this or what, or what does this director direct a lot? And what is that tone like? Because the audition that you do for like an indie film tonally as an actor is gonna be different than what you do for a procedural TV show, exactly. And just knowing that, yeah, like pacing, like watch the show.

SPEAKER_03 19:09

What's the what's the biggest misconception about making it, in your opinion?

SPEAKER_01 19:14

And yeah. I think um making it at all is the biggest misconception. Yes, because I know people that are like so so successful as actors, and it's the same fucking problems. Everybody's still like stressed about getting a job. It's just a lifetime of that, and it is what it is. Like we just have to be like cockroaches that don't die. Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 19:37

Oh my god, that is that is so true. I've never heard that, but that is wow, so accurate.

SPEAKER_02 19:46

And also, like we talked to Scott Evans about that, he's like, he's you know, just hang out, yeah, he can make a living doing it, but it's not making it in his mind. Like, I think it's it's very like you have to let it go.

SPEAKER_03 19:59

And not everyone's gonna be an A-list actor who's who's extremely famous, but I even the A-list actors are taking commercial jobs now.

SPEAKER_01 20:07

Of course, it's just a different and none of it matters if you're not like having fun. Exactly. I feel like now I'm just kind of like, whatever gives me a good laugh, yeah, it gives me a good time. Like that is successful. You're gonna be able to work with myself. That was fun.

SPEAKER_03 20:22

Like, even us on our film that we worked on in the beginning of the this year, it's like it was semi-a shit show. And you know, we had to like figure it out. But the fact is, is we made sure that we had a good time. We like so much during that process. I mean, hello. Remember the second day, it's like I stepped in piss and like on the way home in an elevator and going to my car, and it's just like you just have to laugh. Like, you know, we weren't doing terrible things, doesn't get too serious. And yeah, you just have to like laugh at it. I mean, I threw my shoes away, but like you just have to laugh about it, you know, and we had such a good time, yeah. Not knowing if that if it's ever gonna come out or where it's gonna come out, but we got paid and we're like, I don't even need to be in it.

SPEAKER_01 21:09

Exactly relationships, and thank God, because we like eyes and we were here.

SPEAKER_03 21:14

Yes, I was like, oh my gosh, somebody who feels like my same energy, like right, boom, like we're locked and loaded.

SPEAKER_00 21:20

And it wasn't a big part. No, like we I think we were both were just like, what the f what do we do and do this?

SPEAKER_03 21:26

But sometimes that's how it is. But who cares? Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 21:29

Like I said, we're still gaining something from it, yes, no matter what it is.

SPEAKER_03 21:32

Yeah, and if and if and if it never comes out, which we've done, I'm sure all of us plenty of fucking everything else. That's fine. Like, if anything, I got to meet you, and like now we get to connect, and that's where I take the podcast. And now we have adapting upon that.

Kidnapping Attempt And Aftermath

SPEAKER_02 21:48

Okay, so a little uh we're going to another thing that you went through. Um you went through a very intense situation. Yeah. And what year was that? This was 2014. Okay, very life shifting. But you said it did change your perspective on what you wanted to do. Yeah. Walk us through that situation.

SPEAKER_01 22:05

Yeah. So in 2014, I was 24 and I had moved here when I was like 22, maybe. Um, but basically, like the long and short of the story is I was in West Hollywood going to a friend's house late at night. Not that late. It was like 11. It was dark. It was dark. And I was in not late. I was in Giant Heels. Um, I took an Uber there, and what I thought was like a mugging was actually like they were trying to kidnap me. And now I can say it out loud. It's taken me like so many years to process it. Um, but like there was a getaway car. There were two guys that like cornered me and tried to pull me into the car. And we, I think it was also a setup between the Uber driver too, because it was just two clockwork. Yes. You know, and the streets were dark. And it also later I found out that it was a time where a lot of girls were getting kidnapped in like West Hollywood. Yes, there's like, you know, the sex trafficking stuff. Which, like me, little girl from St. Louis, was like, yeah. I mean, I grew up in the city in St. Louis, whatever, but like, this is different. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:22

You know, you're in fucking boys.

SPEAKER_01 23:23

This is like real shit. Yeah, exactly. And you feel so safe.

SPEAKER_02 23:26

You think you're safe here, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:27

So safe. And so I just knew I knew I couldn't run because I had giant heels on and there were two big guys, and I'm like a little girl. Um, and they tried to kidnap me and drag me into the car. Oh my god. And I literally, like some like a switch happened in my mind, and I just knew I was like, bitch, if you get in that car, like it's done, it's over. Yes. And something deep in me was like, no. Yes. And I just like I fought them. And I like grabbed onto them, and we I launched myself down a flight of stairs with them. So we all fell, and I think it shook them. And it was like extremely violent. And like I, but in the end, I I didn't get in the car. The last thing, like, I remember like being on the sidewalk with like my face down and just being like, if I scream a little bit longer, people are gonna come. Exactly. And finally, people came and they got in the car and ran away. They like took my purse and left. But I was like so injured for a long time and like obviously very scarred. And like this is like such a PG version. Yes, I really um I think it's important like to talk about. At least now that I now I can talk about yeah, like I think in my mind I pretended it was something a lot less less than it was for a long time because I had to. Yeah. Um, but yeah, I mean, I was like my hit, like everything. I really hurt my right hip. Yeah, it was like this whole side, and my shirt was like ripped open. Like it was just like so traumatic, traumatic.

SPEAKER_02 25:04

Like out of body, like this is not happening to me.

SPEAKER_01 25:07

I swear I watched it happen from outside of it. Yeah, I had to probably in slow motion. Yeah, you know, and I heard a voice like screaming, God bless musical theater pipes in that moment. I know that shit was loud. Um but yeah, and I was like, whose voice who is that? You know, like it was me. Um, so that was really crazy. And I will say, I'm so happy I didn't get in the car, but it changed my life. Yeah, and it changed my life because I think that I had been before that more of like a passenger in life. You know what I mean? Like the nice girl, the pleaser, the doesn't wanna, you know, ruffle feathers. Ruffle feathers, like what happens happens. Yeah, exactly. And like, I don't know, I'm here. And after that, I I think I became a different I had a different fire in me. Like intentional. Yes. And because I had survived it, and I also was so fucked up in my head, and I that's when I started doing martial arts. Because I was like, I cannot the only way I'll feel safe in this world again is if I train to fight, to be prepared, yes, exactly in a situation like that.

SPEAKER_03 26:28

Cause who knows, like that could happen again, not that it should, or but it that shouldn't have even happened in the first place, but it did, but it happens, and it happens so much worse, you know, like for people often, like so.

SPEAKER_01 26:42

Yeah, it baffles me like every time I do talk about this because I kind of like forget about it in my life, yeah, and then I talk about it, you know, and people like the outpouring of stories that I get. It's just wild, like what we're all holding on to and how normal it is for women to have a story like this.

SPEAKER_03 27:02

Especially women, right? It's like we we've we've been watching, we've been seeing um on social media this person, I forget who it was, but they had posted this whole reel of what it's like to go jogging as a woman in Los Angeles, but like anywhere, but Los Angeles was like the storyline, and it's all her thoughts inside. And it's just it's honestly crazy. I don't think people understand. Yeah. But we're told like, make sure your shirt's not too tight, or you're you're too appealing to your own. Or make sure that your your your um your sound is not too loud on your headphones that you can hear if somebody's behind you. Like, it's just so many things to think about as a woman, right? That's just to go jogging and being here as you are now.

SPEAKER_02 27:48

Like, that is very important. That's very important to talk about. Yeah, don't wait till what happens to you. Be ready if it happens. Right.

SPEAKER_01 27:54

I think like we should all do like boxing. Yeah, you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_02 27:58

Episode two with you, yeah. We should just go boxing. Then we should just go to the boxing class. I'm done. I'm I'm done. I'm done.

SPEAKER_01 28:07

Because I haven't done it in a while. So I'm ready to do that.

SPEAKER_00 28:09

I box in college and I love a hot box.

SPEAKER_01 28:12

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 28:12

So you say you would we all do it.

SPEAKER_03 28:16

But that's we're all millennials here. So we can know what that is. You know, you make it. But did you so obviously you would say that you would think that that situation didn't necessarily make you spiral, but it made you well it did.

SPEAKER_01 28:30

Okay. It did make me spiral because at first I didn't know how to handle it. This was like after pro like, I I think it took me 10 years to process. Okay. And I'm not even kidding. Well, therapy or on your own? How did you process it? On my own, well, in all the different ways. I didn't go to therapy for like probably 10 years about it. I just thought I'm fine because I have to be fine. And like the martial arts will take care of it. Yeah. And so I feel like I had different steps. Yes. But for a while, I like couldn't go outside. Like, I was scared to talk to men. Any man. You know what I mean? Like, I didn't want to be in the dark. Like, of course. Like, really fucked me up. But then once I came out of it and got into martial arts, that like even changed. I think that had to happen in order for me to then do that movie and then start directing. Yeah. Because I just felt this sense of like, I need women to be safe. Yes. I need women to be safe, and that it has to be part of why this happened to me. Absolutely. And because we all feel so unsafe, you know. But then I got into like action movies, and like because I'm a dancer too, like that choreography. And then I really fell in love with that. And I think that's how I became a director too. And so, like, I I would take it back, but I wouldn't take it back.

SPEAKER_02 29:45

Right. It's completely it completely changed my life. Well, did you watch that the the new um uh the ballerina movie on Amazon? Oh, yeah. I did you watch it? It's so fucking good. But right?

SPEAKER_01 29:57

Yes, we actually I went to the premiere. You should watch it. I went to the premiere at the at South by Southwest. Pretty Lethal. Pretty Lethal. Okay. And I got to interview the director the next day on our podcast. So it was so fun to talk to her, like just about all of that action and dance and like strong women.

SPEAKER_02 30:17

Well, how have I not heard of this? It just came out. Oh, it did. Yeah, it's like just happened. I was like, Yeah, how would I never watch it?

SPEAKER_01 30:24

But they really do a good job of like the dance plus the action. Ugh, love like it's a live.

Dexter Prep And Actor Choices

SPEAKER_02 30:29

So we'll we will watch that. Yeah. Okay, so we're gonna transition again. Another role that you had, I mean, nothing says processing trauma, like she's using darker and more chaotic roles like Dexter. Yeah, okay. Original Sin. Uh was big cult following. We've all watched Dex here like for how many years now? Uh, what's different about stepping into a world like that? Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 30:54

It was the fan.

SPEAKER_02 30:55

You a fan already before? Okay. Such a fan.

SPEAKER_03 30:57

Who wasn't? I mean, if you're not, they're not fancy, especially I do too. He was my like my favorite killer. Good intentions.

SPEAKER_02 31:06

I had this weird dream uh like social media trolls, like being like a dexter for those people. Oh my god. You look a dexterity Gen Z. I think we can figure that out between the three of us. Yeah. For sure. Direct that cast us. Yes. Bro, done. Bro, after this.

SPEAKER_01 31:25

Um, but yeah, it was so fun stepping into it. I feel like I've been really lucky to, especially in the roles I've gotten to play in the past few years, is like stepping into franchises that like mean so much to people that have like big followings behind them and that I already like love. And with people that I love, you know, like so it was really special. And because they hadn't done Dexter in so many years, everything was magical about it. Like the table read, you know, like all everybody that made the show, like the original director, like everybody was just so excited to be there. Yeah, and not every show is like that, right? You know, a lot of shows are like on their 45th season, and it's just like another.

SPEAKER_02 32:08

It's like another day, clock in, clock out.

SPEAKER_01 32:11

But this was like, they were like special special. Yeah. And the comeback was like that too. Because it had been 10 years, you know. And so we'll yeah, we'll we'll get to that.

SPEAKER_02 32:21

Don't skip over my notes, okay? Okay. I get broadcast journalism.

SPEAKER_01 32:27

Michael. Michael, Michael.

SPEAKER_03 32:30

But you know, obviously, your character in that was pretty, you know, chaotic to say the least. Yeah. Um, how how do you how did you personally prep for something like that?

SPEAKER_01 32:41

Like you know, it was talking to my parents about what would make somebody like that. And it's really fun for me to figure out those details, like just dumb shit. And that's like the actor's job in it. You know what I mean? Like, why would this girl be with this guy? Right. Who is the murderer? Yeah. Does she agree with it? Does she know that it happened? Was she too fucked up? I like I am really into nails. And so I kind of I like asked her in makeup wardrobe, like, hey, what if I had like a crazy like 90s French manicure? Because like maybe this girl doesn't come from that. Right. But like she's gonna go on a bender, but she's gonna have her nails done first. Yeah, right. You know, and it's just like so she's not always been maybe that girl, a meth head or whatever, you know. Like, what was her fall like? Because in that role, which was really fun, is I got to then have like the glow up. So it's like, what does the glow up look like? What is she like when she's like been dressed head to toe? Is she comfortable in it? Is she lost? Is she like what the fuck? She's not an actor, right? You know, and she has to like go in the courtroom and like act. So for me, it's just so fun to think about those details, and that's why I love like being the creator also, because I just want to like go into all of that stuff.

SPEAKER_02 34:06

They're like so impressed by you like having those questions. I'm sure they get actors who like just go and read the script and like totally live the lines. Yeah, you come in with that kind of like knowledge and yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:15

I think that they were just like everyone gets excited when you can really play. Yeah, you know what I mean? Well, when you're doing your job, right?

SPEAKER_03 34:23

Because, like you said, there's there's a lot of people who come in and they're like, here I am. Okay, I'm gonna read the lines, I'm gonna do this. Right.

SPEAKER_01 34:31

They love that. Like, let's let's see, like, yeah, but yeah, in that in this case, but you always have to like read the room. Yeah, you know what I mean? Because you can't go do that.

SPEAKER_03 34:40

When you have one line, just walk in to find out. You know, like like sometimes when there's one line, the director doesn't care what you question. Well, okay, so for you, just read the line.

SPEAKER_02 34:49

You're like the top female director in the world right now, pretend. And uh, no name actors came up to you and gave like notes to you like what you want to do for a character, how would you respond to that?

SPEAKER_01 34:59

Well, first of all, hopefully somebody else would intercept those questions first. Okay you know what I mean? Like, I think if I had if you have one line on something, unless you're like already talking to the director, right? But do it in a way, like you have to suss it out. Yes, you know, like if it finds it. Find the right time. Right. Sometimes you're literally, yeah, exactly, just there to spit out a few lines and go. In which case, do it. But you can also like hang at video village or say, like, can I watch this? Yeah, you know, and then just like shut the fuck up and watch. Yes. See what the cameras are doing. Right. Yeah, you know, see what's going on. But if you are in a situation, um, like I was in Dexter, to like really play, like the director and I, like, we just locked in right away. Okay, good. Yeah, like we were just vibing and we kind of like got it on the first take. And so then he was like, ooh, let's try, let's do this. Yeah, you know, and so then we had like such a great time playing, but I took, I like, you know, sussed it off of him. And of course, you read the room, I read the room, but then I was able to like be like, okay, so da-da-da. Right. And then we became friends.

SPEAKER_00 36:10

Well, a lot of actors have no social awareness, so which and that people in general, well, a lot, but I think in general, you should read the room.

SPEAKER_02 36:19

Instead of sitting watching like another actor asked, I'm like, are you not?

SPEAKER_03 36:23

Yeah. There's been times Shut the fuck up, but also like not even in acting, it's just like in real world.

SPEAKER_01 36:28

It's like read the fucking room. Everything is emotional intelligence. Go to therapy. Everyone is. Emotional intelligence. Read some, there's some great like therapy, human behavior books out there. Like, read those. Just read the books. Read the room. Read the books, read the room, read all of that.

SPEAKER_03 36:48

Because it makes such a difference. All right, let's go to cotton. No, now we're gonna go to the fun part. The comeback. Okay.

The Comeback Revival And AI

SPEAKER_02 36:54

By the way, I'm gonna be super honest with you. I didn't even know what this show was. She had never even seen it. I had never seen it or heard it entirely. I have. Also, I've never watched Friends. So let's be great. Like I'm a very I was a fucking preacher's kid. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's had a little bit of a lot of people. We watched a member and Vegetails growing up.

SPEAKER_01 37:13

I mean, also important. That's not really good. That's okay. I hate vegetables.

SPEAKER_02 37:22

That's her story. That's what she never watched it.

SPEAKER_01 37:25

She gets a pack. That's fair, but how fun to watch it now. Did you start it from the beginning? Have you yet?

SPEAKER_02 37:31

I have at the gym and watching all my I I need to like actually sit down for an entire day. You really start my day in the beginning. I'm like, get a little high and like just watch another season. Oh my god. Like it is so good. And there's three seasons, right? Three seasons. The first season came out actually 2005, then 14, then now. Yeah. So uh this show obviously it doesn't die, which I'm so glad it doesn't. Uh Satire and Hollywood, you know, kind of like put together. What's like the crazy how did how did you even again a normal audition? Like, did you know somebody in the Yeah?

SPEAKER_01 38:02

I, you know, I actually found out later that a friend of mine from college is the one who recommended me. So I got like a request audition. Oh nice. And my agent, my it actually went to my dance agent, and my dance agent was like, holy shit. She was like, I'm so excited. And I was like, I'm so excited. How did this happen? So we didn't know. And then also, like, my Dexter director had directed some of the original comeback episodes. And so I was like, maybe it was weird for him. Okay. But I do think there's so many parallels between comedy and like horror. Sure. Like what's that? You know what I mean? Yes. Absolutely. Um, like that sensibility is. Our next section or a comedy. Great. Oh, my favorite. Yeah. My favorite. Um I didn't know who did this. And then I found out way later it was a girlfriend of mine, Stephanie Styles. Shout out Stephanie Styles, who went, she's an amazing actress, also. Um, she's worked a ton. She's but she's like an amazing person that when casting said, Do you know any Broadway dancers in LA? Because the role is a Broadway dancer in Chicago, the musical that then is like mean as fuck to Lisa. Um she gave them my name. And so that's how I got the audition. Amazing. And which is like just so cool. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 39:28

Because that's also not very common.

SPEAKER_01 39:29

Like people want to help build other. But also, like, why not? Why fucking not? Why not?

SPEAKER_03 39:38

Yeah. Did did anything hit a little, you know, too close to home, especially now with AI becoming a part of storytelling? But like, does that freak you out as a creative?

SPEAKER_01 39:48

You know, the thing is, like, it can freak you out all you want, but like it is happening. It is happening.

SPEAKER_02 39:55

I know we talk about this, like uh with maybe fashion over bleep it out. We're not getting our free promotion. But like, y'all got Fox and Marlin, right? Like the ones replace your face or your body or whatever.

SPEAKER_03 40:09

But here's the thing is I still did it. Lean into it. I still did it. You left. You know what I mean? They did turn me into a complete white woman with blonde hair and blue eyes.

SPEAKER_02 40:17

Side note. Shut up uh side note pop culture. The fucking girl who put her face on the yes, I saw that.

SPEAKER_01 40:25

Scary. That's crazy. That's her end.

SPEAKER_02 40:28

The funny way to do it the right way and the smart way. Not Fruit Love Island, which I also watched a lot of that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:35

Yeah, that's crazy. But I will say, like, it was really interesting to hear the because they went to the premiere at South by Southwest two weeks ago.

SPEAKER_03 40:45

But she looks gorgeous. We'll put up pictures here because she has like red carpet.

SPEAKER_00 40:49

You guys I have to. I've always wanted to go South by. Yeah, I would love to go. Okay, we'll like talk about it. Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_01 40:57

Um, but he they did like a panel during it, and the creator or co-creator, Michael Patrick King, who directed it and directed my episode. Um he talked about AI and like how they wanted to, they rushed like getting this um season out. Because we I shot that in like end of September. Oh wow. And so that's like very quick. Very, very, very quick for like an HBO show. Yeah. You know? So he was like, we wanted to get it out immediately before the studios started admitting that they are actually using AI for stuff. Because the comeback every season too has been like a commentary on like a big cultural shift. So, like the first season of the comeback was when reality 20 years ago, reality shows were like, What the fuck is this? Right. And so it's like each season has been about on top of a giant shift. Yes. Yeah. So that was really, I think it's really smart. Like the show is so smart.

Not Your Daddy’s Film Community

SPEAKER_02 41:55

What's the uh the studio? Do you have the studio? Yes. And that AI episode. Yes. You know? Yeah. It's very intelligent. Yeah. Yeah. So crazy. Okay, so now we're talking about something I know you're very passionate about. Not your daddy's film. Okay. For those who have no idea what this is, just give us a fucking like every elevator pitch.

SPEAKER_01 42:14

Um, okay, so we are um a social impact organization. This is my log line. We're a social impact organization dedicated to um empowering and educating women and non-binary filmmakers. And we have a screening series, which is what I had last night, where we screen all shorts and music videos by women and non-binary filmmakers, like an hour's worth of programming, quick 20-minute QA, and then just like a party, like a radio. Networking. Right. Yes. And it's really come from our friends. It started because I had made a short I wanted to show to my friends and got a great space. Decided to like double daughters. Yes, double starters. Um, and then we just never stopped doing them because like the ladies and beyond started like flocking to like a safe space. They see they're seen, they feel seen. It's not a fucking man's. Yeah, and it's fun. Yes, you know, like bringing it back to the fun. It's just like we're celebrating the things that we've made, the feelings we have, you know, in a place that is just like at least we can all talk to each other and we're like, are you well? And yeah, yes, we see each other.

SPEAKER_02 43:25

Yes. But it's not a superficial conversation, like exactly. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 43:29

Exactly. We cry together, you know, it's cute. It's really cute. And then from there, we grew really fast. And now we do quarterly screenings, we have a podcast called Daddy Dailies. We'll come on, it's fine. We do. Um and we do panels, we do workshops, we do like all kinds of stuff now.

SPEAKER_03 43:52

And do you think that's becoming like the new path for creatives? Just make your own stuff and especially especially with women, we wear go.

SPEAKER_02 44:00

For the man to give us permission. Right. And we've all kind of sit in that, like, we have to wait. We sit and we just wait and wait and wait for somebody else to make a decision for us. Yeah. And you're doing something that we all fucking admire. That's I mean, I hope you're very proud of yourself. I hope so. Yeah. I hope so too.

SPEAKER_03 44:14

Cause like that's like it makes me like sort of emotional. I mean, obviously, I've been drinking my life. I'll cry. But like, but it is like, it is, it is a very um intentional, inspiring movement that you're doing. And I hope that you're super proud of yourself. Cause like I know a lot of women who try to do it. No, yes, fuck, yes, fuck that. Um, I know a lot of women who who have tried and have such had such a hard time trying to climb that uphill battle.

SPEAKER_04 44:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 44:44

And um you trying to like open up a space for that is just it's so cool. So I love like that.

SPEAKER_02 44:52

And we're going to like lean on you for like, we want to off camera. We're not giving her secret to it, y'all. Our Patreon.

SPEAKER_01 45:01

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 45:02

No, but it's very impressive. It is rare, I think. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:05

And I I mean, I stand by this, I say it happened to me. It didn't because I know everything that happened led up to that. Yeah. But like it, I just started it, and like me and I have four other co-founders. So like I do not do this alone. We it just kept happening. And then it grew so fast, and we were like, whoa. Yes, you know, like because it's just needed. Yeah. And like that makes me keep doing it, and that makes me emotional because it's like I don't have things, the answers, you know, like I cry all the time. I'm still like trying to get jobs, trying to continue to find my voice, like pick the right thing to do. But it's just like if you don't have that community, right? There's just no fucking way. Right. But there's still barely any fucking way.

SPEAKER_03 45:56

Look at I saw the we weren't able to go last night, but like we've I've saw all of your uh socials about it. And it's just the amount of people that you you bring to this kind of thing is crazy. And I believe in you. And it just it looked so if if if you have no idea what we're talking about, please look it up. And if you're a woman or non-binary, please like go to it because or a man it is or if you're a man who just really wants to support women, like please go because we have that in a second.

SPEAKER_01 46:25

And that's how it changes, is like then those men get in power positions and then hire these women. Yes, and it's because they see that it's important, yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 46:34

Like they're allowed to absolutely, absolutely. Um God, so many more questions. I know. There's like okay, so before we what do we rapid fire in a second? Before though, favorite horror comedy movie of all time.

SPEAKER_01 46:46

Oh my god, of all time, and also are you gonna hear top three? Are you excited about the new scary movie? Um, yes, right. Always. I love a scary movie. Always, yes. Um, oh my god. I love horror comedy. I love the campiness. Love camp. I think like for us, it's an important way to process the well trauma leads to comedy.

SPEAKER_02 47:11

So, like doing comedy because my trauma, yeah, it's it's hand in hand. Like when we cry on that. That's why I'm so funny. She's so funny.

SPEAKER_03 47:18

Because I'm so she's so funny because of her trauma.

SPEAKER_02 47:22

Yeah. And that's for real. Yeah, it is. That genre is so like specific and niche and important to people, right? Yes.

SPEAKER_01 47:31

Okay, I have a show to put you guys on. Please do. Um, it's called Something Very Bad Is Going to Happen. Just finished it. We just finished it. Oh my god. It's so fucking so good. It was so much.

SPEAKER_02 47:42

It reminds me a lot of uh uh Ready or Not kind of. It's very similar.

SPEAKER_01 47:46

Love. And so, like for me, like that's a horror comedy. Yes, it is, you know, and I mean, yeah, for everyone. Like, that's a horror comedy. So Haley, who created and show ran that, okay, she screened a short film with us in our first year of Not Your Daddies. So we've known her since then, and that was like an amazing short. So then this happened, and so we had her on our podcast um and interviewed her. I think it came out last week, but like talked about that whole process because she's really young. Yeah, she's like 28, show running a show. That's insane. Because she wrote an incredible fucking script.

SPEAKER_03 48:22

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 48:22

And God bless the Duffer brothers for saying, I love this. We're gonna bring it to Netflix, yeah, and you will be showrunning this. Yes. That's amazing. She just taught, like, she talks about it so funny, and she's just like, yeah, it was crazy. Like Duffer brother on either side, like Netflix, and just like they're like, you're gonna show around, just being like, okay. And like she didn't know how to do it, but she learned along the way. Of course, like we all do, we're always learning along the way. Exactly. And so, like, that is something that I just finished that I've got to do.

SPEAKER_03 48:51

What an amazing obsessed show. Like, we talked about we watched the first like four episodes together, yeah. And then she was like, Okay, you finished the last because we she had to go home. Well, I had already watched it, and she had already watched it, she was like watching it with me, and I just remember like seeing the end of that last episode, and I was like, There's no way that she's gonna die. Like, there's no way, right?

SPEAKER_02 49:12

Well, the best scene is her walking back into what her husband's fucking teddy bear. Give me the light.

Horror Comedy Love And Rapid Fire

SPEAKER_03 49:18

Yeah, and she's just like, yeah, she's just like full. I told Kayla, I was like, my favorite part about the whole season was her walking into the room where her uh fiance thinks that she's dead, and she's just like, give me the lighter. Like, I need a lighter. And then she's like filled with blood and just walking out. And I'm like, hopefully, everyone has seen it. If you haven't, please go watch it and this will make sense. But like, I was just, I told Kayla, I was like, oh my God, this that was like my favorite part. Like, kudos, badass bitch. Like just going in there and being like, I just died, but now I'm alive. I need a fucking lighter because I need to smoke my weed. I need to smoke my joint.

SPEAKER_02 49:52

You know what I mean? Like, quick time out. Uh, Alex Mark, what's the suite number of this place? Next guess is like, how do I get in? It's it's time. It's at live. 203?

SPEAKER_03 50:05

Okay, 203. Sorry. I'm screaming. Anyway, yes, that amazing. Okay, so what what's your like what's your other top two?

SPEAKER_02 50:14

Or just another one.

SPEAKER_03 50:15

I know, or another one.

SPEAKER_02 50:17

Even like, even like uh the new the Pennywise show. Yes, the way they sprinkle, I haven't watched. Oh, okay. Well, next time. Let's do our robot. Okay, yeah, we have some. This is okay. One job you see your love more than the others.

SPEAKER_01 50:33

One what? Job that you have that you love more than all the others. Oh. Um right now it goes back and forth, but right now it's acting because I can just let go of control for a little bit. Love that. I can just, I can just be like, I will be your puppet. What do you want me to do? Yep. And then I leave. Yeah. You don't have to do post-production. You don't have to do shit. Step in, step out.

SPEAKER_03 50:55

It's beautiful. Yep. Oh. Period. Okay, next. One job you'd happily never do again.

SPEAKER_01 51:02

Oh god. Um I think in entertainment.

SPEAKER_02 51:12

Anything. I would say I worked the drive-thru, it took four months. I'd never do that again.

SPEAKER_01 51:17

I mean, sure. I got it for you. I think, okay, here, well, I'll do an entertainment one. Okay. I, when I started making things, I learned how to edit myself. Editing sex. It's hard. I I actually really love it. Do you? Okay. Because I like how you can, like, I like the timing of things. And but you know what? I don't need to be the editor. Right. I don't need to. Somebody else can do that job. You just want to make notes. We can like assist with that. I want to like sit there, hang, be like, ooh, this is and this is. I don't need to be the editor. And I edit our podcast too. I don't need to do it anymore. Yeah. I want to undo that. Yeah, I work for it. I want to give notes.

SPEAKER_02 51:57

I was the editor for NVC. Yeah. And I lied and told them I didn't know how to edit as Wikipedia want to fucking edit. And now I'm editing again.

SPEAKER_03 52:04

Yeah, now you edit. Yeah, we're always editing.

SPEAKER_01 52:06

I mean, I do, you know, same. Yep, yep. Uh, dream role that you have not booked yet. Oh my goodness. I mean, I would love to play something like Camilla Moroni did in Something Very Bad. Like just something I would love. But you know, something like that. Like, I like the darkness. Yeah. There's such moments of like comedy and levity. Or even like, I would like to play um Deadpool. You know what I mean? Yeah. That also that's just really cheeky. Comedy plus action. I think that's like something I would love to do.

SPEAKER_02 52:38

Well, do you do comedy? Stand up?

SPEAKER_03 52:40

Okay, good.

SPEAKER_01 52:40

Oh, not stand-up.

SPEAKER_03 52:41

Not stand-up. She does everything.

SPEAKER_01 52:43

I've come to your show. I've never done it. I'm so scared.

SPEAKER_03 52:45

Dream person to collaborate with.

unknown 52:47

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 52:48

Ryan Reynolds? Not now though.

SPEAKER_01 52:50

Definitely not that. I'm like, Kayla! Sorry. You're not supposed to talk about that. Um, dream collaborator. Um, oh gosh. Um there's so many. Like any female director ever. Okay. Love that. Honestly. Love that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 53:21

All right. Something people assume about you.

SPEAKER_01 53:23

Or wait, who is it? Sorry. ADD. Hi. Um, who is the director that did um oh my god, the other the can I think of her? The other movie that came out with the big blood splatters and her um uh um the sub not the is it Coralie? Oh, Cor yes, we talked about her.

SPEAKER_03 53:44

Coralie. Oh yeah. Coralie's what the fuck is that movie called? Um, I know what you're talking about. Not the substance.

SPEAKER_02 53:53

The substance. It is okay. Okay. Which by the way, finesse is learning to love horror. Yeah. And she told me she watches substance by herself with the blinds open. It's not a harm. I'm so proud of people, but it maybe seem like it was Coralie Frigari or something, right? Yes, that was her name. Phenomenal, phenomenal.

SPEAKER_01 54:10

Love, love her, love everything she's ever made. Yeah, amazing. Anything that she's ever going to do.

SPEAKER_02 54:18

She'll watch the podcast, obviously. Uh mispronouncing her name. Yes, I know. Um, okay. Last question. If you were not doing entertainment, what would you do?

SPEAKER_01 54:27

If you had to choose if I wasn't doing entertainment, you know, I've yes, a nurse. Definitely not.

SPEAKER_03 54:34

Coralie.

SPEAKER_01 54:36

I'd be like an entire designer. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 54:37

I just said it. Coralie Fergart or Fergie Fergart, something like that. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 54:41

Coralie. Coralie. We love you. Okay. That'd be Coralie. Um, I would be, I was just talking to somebody about this earlier. It's sort of entertainment adjacent, but like when I was younger, I really wanted to be an MTV VJ. Like, still entertainment. Still entertainment. I really wanted to do that. Um, but I think I would be like a broadcast journalist. Like, I think I would do like the news or something. But the news is so depressing. Right. Um, but like being on location, like doing interviews. Oh, also still kind of entertainment.

SPEAKER_02 55:11

Like, let's look way outside. Way outside. Like, had nothing to do with a dental hygienist. Okay. Like when you were a kid, what was one job about?

SPEAKER_01 55:23

A lawyer. Perfect. I wanted to, yeah, a lawyer. Never. Also kind of still acting.

SPEAKER_02 55:29

Like Kim Kardashian and what was that show? I would fucking slay. All ins fair. All inspiration. Yeah. It's not a bad show. I wouldn't. We love that show at the Virginia Camp. Yes. Uh, Carly, thank you so much for joining us. You made us feel very lazy but inspired. Mostly lazy. Mostly lazy. But we made us feel so much too. Well, we're gonna do more now. Okay. Uh, so all your like social medias, where can we find you?

Plugs And Closing

SPEAKER_01 55:54

Um, my Instagram and TikTok are at the Carly Tamarin. The spelling is weird, so figure that out. I'll put it in. You can put it up, don't worry. Thank you. And then also check out Not Your Daddy's Films at NYD Films. And our podcast is the Daddy Dailies podcast, and it's uh the Daddy Dailies pod. There you go. I think.

SPEAKER_03 56:17

Check it out. And if you're not already doing seven careers like her, maybe start one. So you know, to make yourself feel better. Or don't. No, I think you should. No, no, don't listen to her. Listen to me and listen to us when we tell you guys every single week that if you want to have the perfect tasting tea in your home, in your television, on your computer, anywhere, you know the ingredients is always gonna be milk and honey plus Harley Tamarin. All right. We'll see you guys next week. Thanks for joining us. Bye.