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Episode 64: The Sisterhood of the Hunt is back

Hunter Carr Episode 64

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This episode we have the Sisterhood of the Hunt back ( Laurel York and Jaycey Stone). We talk about how their hunting adventures went this season as well as what is to come for the spring/ summer and what’s on the list for next season, as well as talk about how their booth stole some of the NWFT show in Nashville and how they have been impacting and growing their brand to new heights ( as well as shout out some friends of the show and they shout out some of their outfitters) 

If you would like to join them for a hunting adventure 

@sisterhoodofthehunt 

SPEAKER_00

Welcome back to another episode of the Blue Head Outdoors Podcast. I'm pleased to have with us tonight Laurel back and her best friend slash business partner, JC. We have the Sisterhood of the Hunt back. How are you ladies doing tonight?

SPEAKER_01

We're doing great.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, as great as we can be, but we're here.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Struggling in that off-season catch up mode, but we're doing good. We're making it off.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah, for sure. Let's start with that. How did your guys' uh season go with traveling and everything?

SPEAKER_02

Travel was good this year. Usually there's hiccups.

SPEAKER_00

Really?

SPEAKER_02

That was that part was good. Usually we have uh one of our hunts, we have at least four to five girls' flights not make it. So this year everybody made their flights. Um, the only hunt we had issues with was our last South Carolina hunt because it was really bad weather. So other than that, it was a great season. It was busy for show. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah, that's awesome. I was gonna say, I know Laurel, last time you were on, we were talking about when you guys were getting ready to go to Alaska. How was that trip? Looked looked fun, looked like a blast.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that was forever ago that we talked. That was even before Alaska. That's crazy. It was like yesterday, but yeah, it was awesome. That was our favorite trip to date, and this season, uh, we killed a ton of ducks up there, and it's a whole different world, but we didn't realize it was like a four-hour time difference from what we're used to.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, really? That big of a difference.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, the first night we all woke up at like 3 a.m. and we're like, oh, we still have five more hours to sleep.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I remember waking up and looking at JC, and I was like, I feel great. What time?

SPEAKER_02

Let's go back to bed, I guess. I don't know what else to do.

SPEAKER_00

That's awesome.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it was awesome. We got to sleep in every morning and then go shoot ducks. It was sweet.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, that's nice. You guys didn't have to get up too early.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, they just fly all day, so you just go out there whenever you're ready. Mm-hmm. It was sweet. Didn't even have to sit in a blind, didn't have to call at them, nothing. No, the weather was great too.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it looked like you guys had a lot of good weather up there from the pictures and stuff I've seen you guys post.

SPEAKER_02

I think we got really lucky.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I was gonna say, what was the hunting kind of like up there? Like, was it I know obviously it wasn't blinds, but were you guys just like in a boat? Were you guys like on the shore?

SPEAKER_01

We were just sitting on rocks, it was so cool. Yeah, we took a boat to the shoreline and then we'd get out, and I think they had like one line of decoys or two lines of decoys, and they would just literally come right in, like so unpressured, it was crazy.

SPEAKER_02

And one day we used a dove mojo, we sure did brought in all the golden eyes. Hey, whatever works. I was like, Oh, that's conventional. Oh, yeah, but it worked, yeah. It was cool. We saw whales up close.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, that's cool.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, we saw killer whales, and we saw what were the other ones? Great, well, was it a humpback whale? I can't even remember, they were huge.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, damn.

SPEAKER_01

So we had a ton of crazy trips since we talked last.

SPEAKER_00

I think when we do the podcast in September, yeah, like September, either end of August, September, something like that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so we even had our crane hunt after that out in West Texas, and that was an insane hunt this season, too. Yeah, it was awesome.

SPEAKER_00

I was gonna say, what other kind of cool adventures did you guys get into this year besides Alaska?

SPEAKER_04

For sure, for sure.

SPEAKER_02

Um yeah, our crane hunt. We just had a really great snow goose hunt that was fun in Arkansas.

SPEAKER_01

Um we hit it at a really good time, like we had a really good day, and I had a ton of geese spin us. So that's all you can ask for when you go late season in Arkansas is to at least get one big spin, and we did. So super fun.

SPEAKER_00

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02

What else should we do? I'm blocking out right now.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, we went to South Carolina. JC took a group to South Carolina, and I took a group to South Carolina, and we shot some sea ducks, and yeah, that was fun.

SPEAKER_02

Um shot some geese up in Nebraska. Oh, yeah, I did a um pheasant hunt in Nebraska. That was sweet. That was my first pheasant hunt. Never did it.

SPEAKER_01

So we we were all over this year.

SPEAKER_00

Oh yeah. How was that uh for a pheasant hunt, JC?

SPEAKER_02

It was so cool. It was way more fun than I thought it was gonna be. I was like, I don't know if I'll be like an upland hunter, I don't even know what to wear. Um, but I went and I had a lot more fun. I mean, it was negative 20 degrees and snowing, but I was sweating. So it was fun. Um, the dogs obviously are like what everyone says, but it was so cool that they would use like four of them, like three pointers, and then they would have a la a black lab flush, flush them, and that was really cool to watch them like kind of gang up on the quail, like in a little triangle, and then the lab would just go in there and sweep it up. That was cool. We had um there were six girls there, and only one girl had ever done it, and we did pretty well, so it was fun. It was with pheasant bonanza, nice, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Our throat for next year's already only got like two spots left on it, so that one's hard.

SPEAKER_02

It was it was definitely a successful, like fun trip, and I think yeah, more girls will go. That was our first uh pheasant quail hunt we've ever had for sisterhood, so um it was good. Definitely gonna attract some more ladies for that for that, just based on like how fun we how much fun we had and like the lodge and everything was super cool.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah, that's awesome.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, what did you get to do this year?

SPEAKER_00

This year, I didn't really do too much hunting. I'm gonna try to pick it up turkey season. Um, I had a I don't know if I told you Laurel, but I had a young baby last spring.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, nice, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I think me and you were talking about a little bit, JC.

SPEAKER_01

Oh yeah, yeah. JC, you definitely talked to JC about that because she loves to talk about babies.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, make sure you got Miss Mouse Messy Eater Stain Treater. I always got that on me.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but he's he's 10 months now getting ready to walk and crawling and doing all that.

SPEAKER_02

But our babies are close. My son's almost nine months.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, yeah. So he kind of not put most of my stuff on hold, but when I went out, I try to make it count, so it's an adjustment, yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure. For sure. Yeah, but I did get out, I did some deer hunting, I didn't do too much waterfowl hunting this year, which I'm kind of like it is what it is.

SPEAKER_01

Dude, I didn't get in the deer stand one time this year, and normally I'm like hard after them, but I uh didn't have any deer that I was like dead set on getting this year. So I just I don't know. We hit the waterfowl really hard this year, and I drove back and forth to West Texas like three or four times. So about killing it's like 15 hours for her.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I was gonna say I screwed the pooch twice deer hunting this year. I had a doe like literally five yards in front of me, and I didn't even know she was there. So I'm sitting on the ground, and I look up, I'm like, oh geez, and I went to get reached for my bow and she just jumped off, and then and then I had a nice A-point come shooting down the so the one property I was hunting in Maryland. There's like a cornfield next to it that's not ours, but he came down the edge of the cornfield, came running to my stand, and I ranged him wrong and missed. Oh I did get I did get it.

SPEAKER_01

You must have hit a leaf or something.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I must have. I must have. But I did get one down at my buddy's place in Delaware, which was nice.

SPEAKER_01

Nice, nice, yeah. We haven't done any sisterhood trips out like that in the northeast area up there.

SPEAKER_02

So we we need we've done one turkey hunt in New York.

SPEAKER_01

Well, yeah, we did New York, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

But no waterfowl, which we definitely need to do up there at some point.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I was gonna say, you guys ought to come up here with nothing like the Delaware Chesapeake Bay waterfowl scene.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh no.

SPEAKER_00

Gotta hit my man Jeff Coates up. I can he'll have you out in uh ocean city shooting sea ducks right in front of the Ferris wheel by the boardwalk.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, let's go.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, he he's a nice uh I haven't been out with him yet, but like from seeing his videos and talking to him a couple times and I can't hearing people that have been out with him. He he does a really good trip.

SPEAKER_02

Dang, yeah, we need to do that. We wanna there were some people like two booths over from us it at N WTF that um I can't remember something in Maine. Um, but there were I think they do more than just turkeys, but they were there promoting their turkey hunts, and I was like, dang, I need to get up there. So I think we got their contact info, so we need to do some more hunts up there.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah. It's it's it's it's an I don't want to say it's a slept-on area, but it's like the whole Northeast hunting scene in itself is a slept-on area.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, we might have lost Laurel for a sec.

SPEAKER_00

That's why I should probably come back, hopefully.

SPEAKER_02

So, did you grow up hunting with your dad? Because you mentioned to me earlier that y'all were gonna go to South Carolina.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. So me and my dad grew up hunting together. That's cool. On a um lease in uh around Smyrna, Delaware. And then um once that form got sold, he kind of like put that on a back burner and he started golfing more. But he's kind of picked it back up this past year and year before because we hopped on a uh different lease in Maryland. A friend of his invited us both on. I'm not doing it this year because I kind of got other plans, but nice, very cool.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah, I can. We were just I was asking him how he was doing the hunting.

SPEAKER_01

Him and his daddy. Sorry, my phone's been such a mess.

SPEAKER_02

Probably lost hot spot, yeah. I live out in the ways and I've got a hot spot, she doesn't have Wi-Fi at her house, she refuses.

SPEAKER_01

Jesus, I love the simple life. That's right she lives out where Bigfoot lives, so Bigfoot's reason.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know if you heard me, Laurel, before you cut out. I was talking about hunting up here. I said you guys gotta get a trip with uh Jeff Coates and Pip Boss going on.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yeah. Some of my buddies from North Carolina they hunt with him in Hyde County.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, he um he was a really good trip. We'll have you out on the boat, and I was telling JC he'll have you like right next to the Ferris wheel in the front of the boardwalks killing sea ducks in ocean city, Maryland.

SPEAKER_01

That's what we were doing in South Carolina because uh we were literally sit right outside of the boardwalk in the Ferris wheel at Myrtle Beach and shoot sea ducks. I love that.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah, it's awesome. I'm glad you brought it up. How was uh NWTF for you guys? Uh I just thought that was a good time.

SPEAKER_02

It was really good for us. Yeah, we met a lot of cool people, and we had a lot of a lot of ladies like come by and kind of seek us out to like come say hey to us. So that was really, really cool. Um, the show was more packed. I think last last year they said they sold 82,000 tickets, and this year it was like 110,000.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, geez.

SPEAKER_02

So it was crazy. Even on Thursday, it was crazy.

SPEAKER_01

I think it was really good for us because, like, when we try to market our stuff online, like Facebook and Instagram, like Shadow Bands, the hunting and the guns and all that. So I think this was like super good for us because it was face-to-face interaction, and we got to put a face to a name with people we've been connected with on social media, and yeah, it's great, it was great.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and we connected with other outfitters too, which was cool. So oh yeah, yeah, we're gonna do a gator gator trip with the guys who are right next to us. We were talking about it all weekend, it was so fun.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, damn, that should be fun.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, we they put us in a little hallway and we had that hallway packed out with people. Yeah, the booths around us were like, Who are these girls? We were like sisterhood, duh.

SPEAKER_00

They were taking the crumbs off you guys, trying to get everybody else that was leaving.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, like literally at one point it was like bleeding into like the entire hallway.

SPEAKER_02

I was like, this is awesome. It was awesome.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I mean, we couldn't have we couldn't have asked for more, like it turned out great.

SPEAKER_00

I was gonna say, do you guys think you're gonna do more shows?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, we are already signed up for Delta. Uh we'll be at Huntstock in Wisconsin, and then we'll probably go to Ducks, but we don't have a booth.

SPEAKER_02

They're sold out, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know. Yeah, as long as you're there handing out like cards or something.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Oh yeah. But we'll be back at hopefully be back at NWTF next year and Delta every year. So those are the two big ones for sure for us for waterfowl stuff.

SPEAKER_00

Oh yeah. I'm gonna try to get down to NWTF next year, hopefully.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's fun. You gotta go.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah. I mean, you guys were down there, and I had a couple other people that I know that were down there, like, you gotta come next year, you gotta come down here. So much fun.

SPEAKER_02

I'm like, Fooling was that easy, but you got to, and you gotta bring that cool thing and interview people.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I might I have a couple stuff on there. Yeah, I could.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah, come to our booth, we'll do a podcast right there, live.

SPEAKER_00

Hey, there we go. I'll do it. Buy me up. And I mean, you I mean, you guys just now said it, and um Diego was telling me to come down and uh do it with him.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, he's he's a cool guy.

SPEAKER_02

We love Diego, yeah, he's cool.

SPEAKER_01

I think we talked about him on the last podcast, but I've been connected to him for like six plus years. Oh wow, just through NWTF. Like I met him the very first year I went, and every year we meet up and hang out, and he's like, I want to kill a wood duck, and I'm like, Well, I want to kill oscill oscillating turkey, turkey, you're right.

SPEAKER_00

So yeah, that's that's funny.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's like I've killed a million wood ducks, and that's like the wood duck he's always like, I want to kill a wood duck.

SPEAKER_00

That's funny. Oh I seen he killed a couple uh uh blue wing bands this past year.

SPEAKER_02

He did so much this year, he was all over the place. I was like, Oh, he is all over the states. He was doing all sorts of cool stuff.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah. So you guys were talking about beforehand, I think before we started recording that you guys, this is your busiest time because you're getting all your trips planned and lined up. What cool adventures do you guys have on the docket for this upcoming year?

SPEAKER_02

Well, we're going to Alaska for a full week, which is gonna be fun. Um, we have two groups coming in. So we have a group coming in for three days, and then they leave, and then another group comes in for three days. But Laurel and I will be there for the full week. We have a South Florida alligator trip planned. Um, we have a Ohio early goose um thing planned with an NWTF chapter, um, which is cool. We've been working, this guy um his name's Jared, and he um he runs Mercer Outdoors. Oh, yeah. And he we connected at NWTF and he runs a chapter, an NWTF chapter um in Ohio. And he was like, I want to, you know, send some ladies from my chapter on a hunt with y'all. So we've been planning that. So that's pretty cool that he's like willing to do that for girls in his chapter. Um, we have an iguana hunt for the first time. I'm so pumped about that. Oh, yeah. I'm a little scared, but it's gonna be fun.

SPEAKER_01

So we have noodling, bow fishing, and we have four turkey hunts. Yeah, we have four turkey hunts, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Michigan, and New Mexico.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, nice, that should be cool.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, there it's we have a sick lineup this year for sure. And then um Washington. Yeah, then the waterfowl season, we're going to Washington to hunt sea ducks, which is gonna be basically the same thing as Alaska, but just no Harley Quinn if you don't have a tag, yeah. Um, and then we'll hunt the east side of the state too, which is gonna be more like divers and um puddle, yeah, puddle ducks, random ducks.

SPEAKER_00

Are you guys gonna do it? Or did you this pastime in Alaska? And are you going to like do a cast and black strip when you guys go up there, do some fishing?

SPEAKER_02

Well, we were we were going to this year, but they said that they weren't at the time that we were there, they weren't catching much. Like, I think we were gonna try and catch tuna and stuff. Um, but they didn't want us to like all buy our licenses and then it not be great.

SPEAKER_01

And so it was halibut, it was halibut.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, halibut, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right. Tuna. Oh like what? I don't know. Halibut, that's what it was. Well, they do tuna fishing up in Washington, which isn't too far, I'm pretty sure.

SPEAKER_01

We did catch some dungenous crab when we were up there, yeah, and they were like this big.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, that's cool. Frick yeah, and then uh we picked mussels off the beach and ate those too. That was fire.

SPEAKER_03

That's cool.

SPEAKER_01

It sounds like we were just like living off the land up there.

SPEAKER_05

Right.

SPEAKER_02

So I think I don't know, we're going later this year, so I I would assuming I would assume that the fishing won't be as great because we're going like a whole month later, it'll be a lot colder, but maybe not. So I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

We're not complaining though, the dog hunting was is so more than enough for us.

SPEAKER_02

So yeah, like they were we were like, Oh, we hope we all get a Harlequin, and they're like, You're all gonna limit on your Harlequin. And we're like, we did.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, we it was there were so many that we literally just sat there and took turns shooting because we wanted to know that we shot our birds, and so it I mean, it could have been five of the girls on the spots because they were like, Well, I don't want to shoot by myself, and we're like, dude, they're so close, just you got this.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, so yeah, it was awesome.

SPEAKER_00

Are you guys going for kings this next trip up there, or are you guys just gonna do Harley's again?

SPEAKER_02

We're we're not going the area that we're hunting, they're not really there, but we are planning a 2028 January trip to St. Paul with them. Um, which that one we're not allowed to really take any beginner hunters. So they told us that we kind of have to vet people based off experience because it's harsher conditions and it's really, really tough shots, and they don't want someone to come if they're newer and less confident, um just so that they don't pay all this money and don't get what they want out of the trip. So we're excited for that, but I'm a little scared of that one too. Only live once, you know. Oh yeah, easier to do it now that we're younger than when we're older.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I'm so excited for that, but I know I'm gonna be puking, but you're worth it. Oh yeah, bad, really bad uh offshore sickness. And they said it's like 12 foot rollers.

SPEAKER_00

Holy shit.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, they were like, Y'all better be prepared to be in 12-foot rollers and it's 70 yard and hit the duck at 70 yard chops. So I was like, Oh god. Well, I'm not worried about the 70-yard shot part. I'm more so worried about the 12-foot rollers.

SPEAKER_00

Rollers, right?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I'm worried about this.

SPEAKER_05

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Get in front of it. Like that's a clip for him to post on Instagram.

SPEAKER_02

How do you how hard do you like lead when they're 70 yards away?

SPEAKER_00

Right, exactly.

SPEAKER_01

Like two feet. Like I get sick when we can go when we go offshore or go hunt sea ducks in South Carolina, and I can still see land. So yeah, it's gonna be a rough one for me.

SPEAKER_00

Oh yeah.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

That's definitely on the list too. Get up there and because I've been invited to go shoot kings up there, so I might have to do that. Oh, you gotta go.

SPEAKER_01

That's like another list hunt. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. The one guy that um kind of started making King Eider hunting, like a big thing for like St. Paul Island Island X, uh, Captain Charles. He I had him on here and he was like, Yeah, dude, you gotta come up, we'll do some fishing, we'll do some uh King Eider hunting. And I'm like, sign me up, man.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I will say when we were up in Alaska, and this wasn't even as remote as where the King Eider hunts are, the everything closed at like I want to say like 6 p.m. So like the wow, the island like shut down, and we were just like, what do we do? And like you couldn't even go get like water bottles from the gas station because they were all closed. Yeah, like and they're saying that this St. Paul Island is like even more remote than that, like you got to fly all your food and water bottles and everything like that. So it's like this is some real deal stuff here.

SPEAKER_00

Real deal holy field there, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

We might be having to fish to feed ourselves we can do it.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yeah, give me a worm. I don't think those uh saltwater fish eat worms, they got ponds on there surely.

SPEAKER_00

So, how is it with you guys when you guys bring like a whole mixed bag of ladies out there with you? Like, how do you guys kind of navigate like with the newer people and then like the more experienced people on hunts?

SPEAKER_01

Go ahead, Laurel. Normally, the more experienced people kind of just automatically start offering help to the newer girls, which we love to see. Um, but we're kind of aware of everyone's experience before the trip even happens. So we're we make sure the newer girls are comfortable, they have everything they need prior to the trip. And then when the trip is there, um, we just make sure that we answer any questions they have and make sure not pay them special attention because you don't ever want to make single someone out or make them feel new, you want to make them feel included, which when I was newer to hunting, I didn't want to be singled out or anything. So I just try to pass that on to other women. And if they have questions, we tell them, hey, if you got a question, ask. Um instead of pretending to like you know know it all. I mean, ask a there are no stupid questions, so yeah um own what you don't know and ask all the questions.

SPEAKER_00

Oh yeah, the only stupid question is one you don't ask.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly. Exactly. It's there's no shame in being new to this, especially as a woman.

SPEAKER_00

Oh yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, me and JC are picture-proof because we started, didn't start till college, and you see how far we've come. I mean it if you uh if you start and you have you got a passion for it, you'll pick up all the knowledge uh super quick.

SPEAKER_05

Oh yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And like I'll say, I feel I feel like people trash on like hunting with outfitters, but hunting with outfitters has helped both Laurel and I and all these girls learn a lot about hunting and hunting the right way and seeing how the right way to do things is because even like even like before, like when I was hunting in college and we'd go like hunt public, I never tagged my birds because I didn't know I had to tag my birds. That's something I learned at an outfitter was like, oh, you got to tag your birds. Like that is something you have to do because I didn't know, and the people that I went with that were experienced, maybe they didn't know, or maybe they just didn't tag their birds because they didn't care to. But things like that is where like we go, we we go with outfitters, one, because it's the safest way to go. Um and it's the best like possible outcome, more than likely. So, like really hunting is hunting, like we're gonna get skunked here and there, but you can't really learn to hunt and like learn the whole aspect of hunting and like harvesting your birds and what to do with them, and you know, like the meaningful part of it if you are not setting yourself up well. And so we go with outfitters because we want the girls to be successful. Um, we want to be successful, obviously, but um, it's like so much learning even after the harvest, you know, like how to like we almost every hunt we have someone who doesn't know how to clean a bird. And so that part, if we harvest birds, we learn. Um, I mean, we've learned all sorts of different things. Like someone sent me a video. Um, it's like some weird way to like step on a bird and yank it up where the breast goes completely out. And I was like, I've been doing this, I just learned how to do this, you know what I mean? So um, yeah, we've just we love hunting with outfitters for that reason. Um, and there's no one should be ashamed if they do hunt with outfitters. Um, but it's been great for us, and um, these outfitters seem to take it really seriously, which we appreciate, and so that's why we do it.

SPEAKER_00

That's a good point you bring up. I mean, a lot of people do hate on people for hunting with outfitters. You're like, oh, it's the rich man's way out, or the whatever excuse they want to say, but it's like, no, you do get an education, you do learn the right way, you do learn stuff you probably didn't think of before or know before.

SPEAKER_02

And it's still hunting, exactly.

SPEAKER_01

It's still hunting, somebody's gotta do the scout. It's you'll spend just as much money, if not more, doing it on your own with all the prep and time that it takes. Um, but a lot of the girls and ladies who come with us, they're moms, they're raising kids, like they have full-time jobs, like they don't have an entire year to be out there prepping in the summer, like scouting a couple days before. Like, some people only get 15 to 20 days of PTO per year, and that would only that you could use all that in one trip up to Canada with asking for permission and scouting and hunting one time. So it's just easier to go with outfitters and spend the money and experience experience more types of hunt different types of hunting, different places.

SPEAKER_00

That's awesome. Yeah, did you guys ever think that what you guys were starting when you guys started sisterhood, it would grow or be as big as it's been and getting to be now?

SPEAKER_02

No, I was literally thinking about this driving today. I was like, I just can't believe this.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, we didn't start it to be like a big organization in the industry, we really just started it to be like age, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, like to not outreach.

SPEAKER_01

Me and JC were sick of getting bashed on social media, and so we were like, we don't want other girls who are trying to get into hunting to feel intimidated or feel hated on or bashed like we have, and so we were like, Yeah, girl, go girl, and like I feel like people were getting pissed off about it, and I was like, This is so sad that the industry was like it's gotten better, but I don't know if it's gotten better, but I mean, we're definitely it's moving the right direction, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and you guys are definitely helping that out for sure.

SPEAKER_02

I would say people like really, I mean, there's a lot of people we know that I feel like minds have changed about like what we do. I mean, there's other groups doing it too, but like just the girls hunting with girls aspect, like I feel like I feel like we've earned a lot of people's respect because we're not doing it for the wrong reasons. Um, and like I don't know, like Laurel said, we we started Sisterhood, like the name sisterhood came from the sisterhood of the traveling pants movie. Like that's literally where we got the idea. Because in the movie, they're like sharing this pair of jeans and they're passing it on to each other. So, like when we started Sisterhood, we had like a kit of cool stuff that we would pass on to girls, like duck calls. Do you remember Laurel?

SPEAKER_01

Like, this was a pink lanyard with a bunch of custom duck calls that we had that we pass it on it.

SPEAKER_02

Not even like our hunts, just hey, you're hunting with another girl, take the lanyard and go give it to her, and then she can pass it on. Like, I don't even know where this lanyard is.

SPEAKER_05

Somebody wants to have it.

SPEAKER_02

I don't even know where this lanyard is. But like that was kind of our idea, and so now that it's turned into like girls' hunts all over the US and Canada, like we're planning Mexico and Africa, just from that, like it kind of says like it's I mean, it's a good idea because people have bought into the fact that like girls should not be shamed in hunting with other girls, right? You know, so it just kind of proves like I don't know, I really think it does prove that people in the industry are like not like I hate to say this, I this word like happened in college or something, but like it's not chewy like it used to be. Like it's like it's okay, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01

Um and I honestly feel like most of the hate was coming from it was women on women hate. Like the guys are like, Yeah, we love to see girls getting involved. And when I just feel like it was women who had grown up in it, being like, you don't deserve a place in this industry, like you haven't been doing it long enough, you don't know enough, um, just stuff like that. And it was just really discouraging that people in the industry would be like that towards people who were passion wanting to get into it. Um, so me and JC saw kind of sustainable.

SPEAKER_02

And that's that's who we were. We were the people who did not grow up hunting, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Right. So that's like I was talking to somebody on another episode recently that it was like there's us as hunters and in the industry ourselves, we get enough hate as it is, like from the outside looking at yeah. So for every for for all of us to like, I mean, even guys on guys bashing on each other, like your guys' case, women bashing on you guys, like it's not needed, like like just bring each other up, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02

A hundred percent, yeah. And like I even was seeing all the these posts. I know y'all probably saw them like from TikTok, TikTok about NWTF, and how half the people were like, Oh my gosh, you're going there and you're an influencer, blah blah. And the other people are like, just let people live, like chill. Yeah, and so that's kind of how we feel. Like, we're just trying to hunt and have fun. And oh yeah, um, that's how these girls are. Like, I want to say, like, when we first started it, I feel like a lot of not a lot, I would say majority of the girls are still coming for the right reasons, but we did have a good handful here and there that like clearly they would come for one day, take pictures, and they leave, and they paid for a two-day hunt, but they left early type deal. Um, we haven't been seeing that hardly at all. And I feel like it's just kind of part of the culture shifting, and like I feel like if that's where your heart is, you're probably not gonna come because you're just seeing the culture that it's that's not really what we're here to do. And so we don't we don't have that hardly ever anymore, um, which is great, and like everyone's welcome, no matter like what your you know intentions are, because we hope that you come and you are like, oh, like it's really just about hunting, you know. Um, but it's definitely in the last couple of years shifted to like okay, everyone's here just to hunt and have fun, which is super encouraging.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah, for sure. What's um what's a hunt with you guys look like?

SPEAKER_02

Well, you want the whole process? JC's good at this. Okay, so first off, we post on our website, and then um you can inquire on our website, which sends you and uh sends us an email, and we usually text you. Uh Laurel's usually on that. Um her phone works. Um but basically we just send you like information um about the weekend, like we include the cost, your date of arrival, um, the last day, what's included, um, basically like where it is. And then if you sign up, you sign a waiver, you will not sue us if you accidentally shoot your foot type stuff. Um, and then from there, we all get in a group message and then we coordinate. Um, like a lot of girls will fly. And so we'll be like, okay, y'all need to be um like check in. Is it four o'clock on this Friday? Um, make sure that you're here by then. Sometimes, like if Laurel or I are flying, we'll make sure that we meet up with the girls and we all split rentals. Um, we send a packing list, we send an itinerary of what like what the weekend looks like. So basically, all you have to do is show up. Um, and then on the hunts, we always make sure that like we go over license info the first night so that everyone's prepared um and has what they need. Um, we always encourage girls to like have a copy of their hunters' education because you never know when a game warden might be like, show me the real deal. Um and then yeah, we hunt. If we have to clean birds, we do that. Sometimes a lot of times they do it for us. Um, but like on a recent trip we just had, some of the girls wanted to learn, so we clean birds with the guides, which was cool. So some of the girls got to do it for the first time on our snow goose hunt. Um, and then after after the hunt, everyone just kind of like hugs and is depressed that it's over. Then we all go home, and um, we've recently been sending like a hunt wrap-up email with like the codes and um discounts and stuff that brands give us um that they welcome us to share. So yeah, and then a lot of times these girls will become best buds, and then they'll book another trip or they'll end up having a weekend together at one of their houses or go on a beach trip or a fishing.

SPEAKER_01

They don't waste any time too. Oh, they do. I already saw a group from January, West Texas, getting together snowy spinning. Literally, dang that wasn't even a month and you're already gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_02

It's pretty cool. It's pretty cool. Yeah, like four girls like one off, went and hunted together, so it's pretty nice.

SPEAKER_01

And they had just met in January, uh, middle January. Yeah, and now they're all besties, which is like that is the whole point of what we do. So just to see that just makes me feel like we're doing something right, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_01

Even if they don't come back on a hunt with us, I mean, just to see them hunting together is that's all we could ask for. I mean, obviously, we'd love for them to come back and hunt with us because we love all the girls that come with us, but um, to see them making connections on the hunts, I mean, that's the whole purpose.

SPEAKER_00

So, oh yeah. Did you guys ever think that you'd be going to places like Mexico, Africa, Alaska? No, maybe when I was saying that it was just gonna it was just gonna be kind of like local at first, and then that was you it'd go where it goes.

SPEAKER_02

Well, bless you. We started going to just uh one bless you in Arkansas for a while, and then once we started getting um like attention from other outfitters and just offering to work with us, then it kind of just spread to like multiple states. Like I want to say in our second, bless you, the baby girl. Um I want to say in our second year we did like three or four states, and then from there it's been like eight to twelve states a year. Um and so it just happened really fast. And I don't know, like we I I feel like at first we were like, we'll just do it like in Texas and Arkansas because that was kind of drivable for us. Um once we started just getting the attention from those outfitters, it was like, okay, like we can't say no, you know, like it's really cool to offer like different types of trips because a lot of girls, it's so this is something I noticed on my very first hunt. I remember I'll never forget going to Arkansas, and someone was excited about shooting a Spoonbill duck. And I was like, oh my gosh, that's all I shoot in Texas. Like, I'm so tired of seeing those dang bugs. And so, like, it's just like you were talking about with like Diego, like it's funny because a lot of the girls will be like, oh my gosh, you know, like a teal or whatever, and they're like, Oh, I shoot at my house. Like, I don't want to shoot that. And so it's cool because all the girls experience different things, and like now that I'm getting into like the sea duck hunting part of things, I'm like, oh, like probably a good majority of the girls that have come on our trips like grew up sea duck hunting instead of like hunting puddle ducks, you know, and so it's just so interesting. Um, like I like that kind of part because everyone's coming from different places, and so everyone has different perspectives and like type of hunting that they grew up or are involved in that's totally different than like what other girls did. So that part's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. Do you guys uh reach out to outfitters? Do they reach out to you, or is it kind of like a mix of both for like your trips?

SPEAKER_02

I honestly don't know. Have we reached out to an outfitter yet?

SPEAKER_01

I think every single outfitter we've worked with so far has like we've been connected with personally already, or they've reached out and said, hey, we want y'all to come up, bring a girls group, and then we've known uh reliable sources who have hunted with them before, or we've gone out ourselves and hunted with them before. Just we don't just go to any random outfitter. I mean, a lot of the people we work with are very well known in the industry and they're trust them.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So I would I would say if if we have, it's because it's been like a oh yeah, like we should do that sometime, like you know, kind of mutual thing. Um, but a lot of it has been like some of our friends, um, like our friends at Margro, they've definitely um helped us out with that. And then yeah, just a lot of word of mouth, really. Um, and then like I think a lot of the people who do um reach out to us. I mean, obviously, like it's really great marketing, like something we always tell them and they see when when we come is like girls market the heck out of stuff way more than men do. And so it's funny because like a guy, like a whole guy's group might come and have the best hunt of their life, and then like a year later they'll post their first pick and be like, oh guys, throw back to last year when we shot 30 man crane limit in 10 minutes. But if girls do that, you're gonna see about it for a whole week, you know what I mean? Like stories and reels and I mean, just everything, tick tocks, you know, mom's groups on Facebook. So it's just it's just funny. So I think that outfitters appreciate that, but also they really have fun when the girls come. Like the girls are way less pressure than a guy's group, for sure.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, a lot of the outfitters we hunt with, they are booked for years and years to come, so that they don't need us to come and market for them. Yeah, um so that just says a lot about who we're hunting with and how trustworthy they are.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, for sure. Oh yeah, that's awesome.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and we're lucky that we're connected with these people because yeah, you don't want to be just hunting with Jim Bob down the road, right? You don't want to be with some I didn't know what to say, so I just be with some regular Joe down the street, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Oh yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, shoot, Arkansas and Texas. Texas is getting flooded by new outfitters and pop-ups.

SPEAKER_00

I was gonna say, I've been seeing a lot of people in West Texas starting to pop up, especially if they're the best place in the country to the best area in the country for the show. I don't know about the best, but I'm kind of biased in that area.

SPEAKER_02

Wait, well, what kind of ducks are you shooting?

SPEAKER_00

We shoot the whole spectrum up here.

SPEAKER_02

The whole spectrum. I like that term. I'm a dead teacher.

SPEAKER_00

We can shoot sea ducks and divers, puddle ducks, uh, a lot of big black duck hunting up here. Oh we we get Canada's brand, depending on where you go, you can shoot swans.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Um they really do get like everything up there. Yeah, we have whitetail turkeys. You can go up.

SPEAKER_01

Don't you all have like sitka deer or something?

SPEAKER_00

I was just getting ready to say that we got sitka in Maryland. We got uh bears in Virginia and up in New Jersey.

SPEAKER_02

Have you been to California?

SPEAKER_00

No, that's on the list. That is I want to get out there.

SPEAKER_02

You can shoot 10 sex there.

SPEAKER_00

I did hear that too, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

That's crazy. They have everything. Elk, bear, I mean, black. Do they have black buck there?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I think so up north. Like that's like the only like outside of like the crazy subspecies of like black-tailed deer or like elk. I mean, the closest thing to elk we have is seeker deer, but that's that's your own opinion on that. But we pretty much have it all out here. That's cool.

SPEAKER_02

But it's cold up there.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, dude, you you ain't lying. We just got done getting thawed out this past couple, this past week and a half.

SPEAKER_02

We're getting back cold tomorrow.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it was 70 degrees here two days ago, and now it's like 15. So I don't know what the heck is going on in Tennessee right now.

SPEAKER_00

That's what it was like this past week up here, or last week up here. It was like 82 weekends ago, and then this past week it was like 20 and snowing. It's crazy, and then now it's back up to like 60 degrees, and it's like rain and uh humidity. I'm just like, what the hell?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but we but couple weeks the sand hills were migrating back up north over my house.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, really? Yeah, funny enough, we'll see a couple sandhills pop through around here. I mean, you can't hunt them, but they just pop up.

SPEAKER_01

That's crazy. Yeah, that is crazy. I never even knew they existed when I lived on the east coast, unless I was down in Florida and they were standing in someone's yard.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, well, what's funny? I was driving up to New Jersey one day and I just seen them in the field on the side off the side of the road. I was like, what the am I seeing that right?

SPEAKER_02

Laura, I think I just noticed your name.

SPEAKER_01

I know I was wondering why nobody said nothing about it. Swag. Love it.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah, and speaking of specs, we can get in specs popping up too. A couple of guys killed specs around here this past year.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's crazy. Whenever my signal was bad earlier, I was saying I used I hunted uh early season honkers in Maryland, and that was freaking bang up hunting.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah. Maryland's like one of the big goose spots to go hunt.

SPEAKER_01

Big honkers.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah, big huge small ones. Yeah, he's big.

SPEAKER_01

I prefer to hurt hunt lessers, but early season big honkers is like so fun.

SPEAKER_02

They drop off, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Oh yeah. A couple of guys on there. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I'm excited for our early goose in Ohio, especially around like Maryland and New Jersey.

SPEAKER_00

There's a couple big banning areas around there, so like you'll get a lot of bands that come through.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, we've only ever seen one band really in Canada.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I've seen two, I saw one on a personal hunt before.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01

Rio retrieved it.

SPEAKER_00

Nice. So I got a funny story about a band. So I went on my first brand hunt either a year or two years ago. Now it's kind of been a while. But I went on my first brand hunt down in uh the Delaware beaches in one of the back bays. A guy I know he's he started guiding this year. I don't know if he's gonna guide next year because it's kind of up in the air if they're gonna have brand season or not around here because of the numbers. But um, first brand mind it was gusting 40 miles an hour while we're out there on the bay. Oh gosh, and we're just sitting there shooting the shit, and all of a sudden the one dude that we're hunting with looks like he's like, Is that a brand? And me and the other guy turned, we're like, holy shit. And I grabbed my gun, shoot twice, miss. Other guy grabs his gun, drops it. It's a fucking band. I'm like, Are you kidding me? Oh my first brand, and it would have been banded.

SPEAKER_02

That's crazy. Wow, yeah. I'm gonna like have a heart attack the first time I shoot a band if I ever shoot one.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, well, you know what I was thinking literally just two days ago. What I hate to say it, but since we hunt with outfitters, I feel like they're pulling these bands off these birds because there's no way we've hunted six years and there we've seen one band. No way, absolutely no way, they're hiding them from us for sure.

SPEAKER_00

I've I've been hunting 10, 12 years, and that brand was the first band I ever seen.

SPEAKER_01

But I don't know. You see these guides with lanyards with the stacked with bands, and yeah, you can get replicas made, but you can always tell the difference between a replica and a real band. I really think if I was a guide, I mean I would be don't say that snagging them sucking. Don't say that.

SPEAKER_00

Well, it's funny is guy guys I went on the brand hunting with that I've become friends with the hunt up in Jersey, they have one spot that you can literally just sit there and pick bands out with with uh hunting geese.

SPEAKER_02

That's how it is at our local Chick-fil-A. Yeah, there's a Chick-fil-A by my house that has just banded geese everywhere. It's ridiculous.

SPEAKER_00

I seen a band the other day in a shopping center. I was like, what the hell?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, they're literally just right down the road.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, they're just everywhere. I'm like, well, especially now because I don't know about you guys how the big Colts push from the end of January into February affected you guys. But up here, because we had the push from up north, and then the one that came from the west or southwest, kind of and pushed across. All like I feel like all the east coast population of geese is like concentrated in Maryland, Delaware, and New Jersey. Like, I've never seen this many geese before in my life.

SPEAKER_02

I feel like where I live in North Carolina, they just hang out here all the time. Like they're just here. Yeah, there is a lot of geese in North Carolina, and there's like a lot of fields. Like, there's a lot of fields, there's a lot of them in fields around my house, but you can't hunt them because they're all too close to the road. Like it'll be a one-off field surrounded by a highway, you know. But city limits, yeah, can't hunt them in city limits. Yeah, well, even if it's outside of city limits, it's like too close to the road to be shooting your gun.

SPEAKER_00

Right.

SPEAKER_01

I've hunted some pretty close to the road areas in North Carolina, too.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, no, I've hunted some elephant. I've hunted some pretty close places off the highway in New Jersey before, too.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I've done it in Texas, but there was like a line of trees blocking me. Here it's not, it's like a tobacco field or something, you know. Tough JC get a towards the road. I know that's that's that's right. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

Don't drop by that field.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I mean, I was facing away from the trees.

SPEAKER_01

You're not supposed to in Texas, like 600 feet or six to eight hundred feet from I know there's a law that you have to be so far away from roads and homes, but I just don't know how far.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I know up here it's like you gotta be 300 yards.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, JC goes six to eight hundred feet. Yeah, anybody else wanna oppose that? All right.

SPEAKER_00

Well, that's pretty close to like 300 yards. Like six too.

SPEAKER_02

That would be 300 yards, bro.

SPEAKER_00

Uh well, I got two final questions for you guys before we head off. I got one for JC and one for you, Laurel.

SPEAKER_05

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00

Uh JC, what is your why that keeps bringing you back? And Laurel does my famous question.

SPEAKER_02

To sisterhood or to honey?

SPEAKER_00

To both.

SPEAKER_02

Um, for hunting, I feel like it's just a beautiful way to experience like God's creation. Like, I I love going out, which is like an answer everyone talks about, um, probably, but I genuinely just am in awe by like the order of everything. Um, like how obviously like food chains and things work, and like how things survive and like their instincts, like even watching like a dog and their hunting, you know, like their instincts and everything, like just all the purpose that goes into it is just beautiful. Um, I don't know. That's what I love about it. And I love like getting to share, I guess, that with my daughter here soon. She's gone out with me, like to, you know, like set up cameras and things like that. Um, she hasn't gone hunting hunting with me, but that's something that I really want to teach her. And I think that hunting brings like a really cool perspective of like taking ownership and responsibility um in like a place where things aren't necessarily like ours, like going out and hunting, like you have the responsibility to do X, Y, and Z, like take care of people's property if you have permission. Um, but taking ownership means like you're gonna, you know, like own like your mistakes or um how you're gonna, I don't know, treat situations and stuff like that. And so having that to learn in general, but then also like getting to teach my daughter and my son in the future is something that I think will impact them. Um, I wish that I grew up hunting, um, although I didn't have that. I'm just really grateful that I get to do that. So that's why my why. Um, and then for sisterhood, I just genuinely think that it's I really feel like it's kingdom work that we're doing. Like I feel like um just building friendships and just like being that person for people who don't have confidence to come in and tell them like we were in the same boat as you. Um, you don't have to feel this way, or leave your like questioning like how good you are at something. Um, and I feel like, yeah, I don't know. I just feel like that's kingdom work that we're doing. And um like I feel like especially just getting more bold in my faith personally and just sharing that with others, um, and just how God has worked in my life and through sisterhood in my life is going to impact others, and I know it has. Um, it's been really beautiful, and that's why I keep doing sisterhood.

SPEAKER_00

That's awesome. I love it.

unknown

Thanks.

SPEAKER_00

Laurel, since you've already answered the why before, I got a different one for you.

SPEAKER_01

Nice.

SPEAKER_00

What what was your aha moment?

SPEAKER_01

Uh aha. My aha moment was probably when I killed my first turkey. I mean, that was the first. I mean, I'd been on a dove hunt before that, but turkey hunting is really what sealed the deal for me. And when I killed my first turkey, I was like, this is what I was meant to do. Like, um, I just felt like I loved it so much. And then I was like, I'm gonna, I don't care if I have to go out and learn, teach myself how to hunt, I'm gonna go do it because I like loved it so much. I loved being out there. Um, and I think the best way to learn is the trial and error method and experience and just getting out there and doing it yourself. Um, so that's what I did. And I mean, I don't love it any less to this day. I feel like when I started hunting, I realized that it was that it was my passion and just took it and ran.

SPEAKER_02

So it's all it queens.

SPEAKER_01

All it took was one invite. So we want to be that for other women and hopefully they have a passion for it. And if not, that's fine. It's not for everybody, but at least they got out there and they experienced it. Um, but I we like to share our passions with other women, and hopefully they carry on that passion and grow in it.

SPEAKER_00

Awesome. Well, thank you both for coming on tonight. I really appreciate it and appreciate the time. It was definitely a ball having you both on. We'll definitely have to uh get you both back on at some point in the future.

SPEAKER_01

Heck yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Good luck in the spring this year with your guys' turkey trips and the bow fishing and noodling trips.

SPEAKER_03

Thank you.

SPEAKER_00

You guys are very successful. Thanks. And as I mentioned to you, Laurel before, I'll say it again for you and JC. You know, if you're ever up here, hit me up. We can get into some shit. Yes, fishing, hunting, whatever.

SPEAKER_01

Heck yeah. We'll do it one to one of these days. We'll make our way over there. We're just gonna show up, and you're just gonna be caught by surprise.

SPEAKER_02

Hey, it'll either be the best or the worst surprise of your life.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah. Well, thank you guys for coming on again, and thank you all for listening to another episode of the Blue Hen Outdoors Podcast.

SPEAKER_02

Thanks, Honer. Thank you.