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Kaine | How The Ying Yang Twins Changed Clubbing Forever | #146
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This week,
I sit down with Kaine of the legendary Ying Yang Twins, one of the biggest artists behind the rise of crunk music and the wild nightclub era that took over the 2000s.
From strip clubs and radio stations to sold out parties across America, the Ying Yang Twins helped create some of the biggest club anthems of all time while becoming one of the most recognizable groups in hip hop culture.
In this episode, Kaine talks about the rise of the Ying Yang Twins, the reality behind the music industry, what nightlife was really like during their peak, and how they built a sound that completely changed party culture. We also talk about fame, money, internet culture, relationships, business, and the pressure that comes with constantly being in the spotlight.
This conversation goes far beyond music. It’s about influence, legacy, and what it was really like being at the center of one of the craziest eras in nightlife history.
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Yo there you go, but you bullets middle whim bam baby, baby. It's another whim bam Wednesday. You know the show about ordinary people have done extraordinary things. And as always, baby, we're gonna ask you first, please, just one second, click the link below and subscribe. Because zero, just a little bit of a first. Give us a little bit of love. Because we got some great gas that we've had on the show. Tin-baby, we get another legend in the house. I don't care if you're from the window of the womb. Get two's in the house. Tin-bedging, we got the legend, we got the happy brothers. We got cane in the house. What's up, buddy? Hey, what's up, world? How are you doing today?
SPEAKER_00Let's get the minute.
SPEAKER_02Great having you here. You know, having so many hit songs throughout your life has been a blessing, I'm sure. And you're still kicking it. You're still doing it. You're still out there doing it. Yeah, man. Yeah. So let's talk about it. How did the Yin Yang brothers come to come together? Now, first of all, you guys real brothers?
SPEAKER_00Uh no, but the story to D-Rock and I is very funny. Let's we're not brothers, but brothers from another mother, as well as that works. That's right. Um, how can I put this? I was a neighborhood rapping kid, right? D-Rock had made Bankhead Bounce when we just had gone to the ninth grade. So you're talking 14, turning 15? Right. Um ATL. Yeah, right there. So D-Rock was known for Bankhead Bounce and his other song, he had Bounce, Shorty Bounce. And I was just a normal neighborhood kid rapper. And so the first hardcore rap group out of Atlanta nationwide was uh the A Town Hard Boys. And so one of the Hard Boys and D-Rock are cousins.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_00So they used to come to this barber shop in East Atlanta. I lived in East Atlanta after my mom moved us out of zone three. Um that's the meetup spot. The barbershop's always a meetup. And so in this barbershop, all of the stars came. All of them. Dallas Austin, Kevin Wells, A Town Horror Boys, Belle Bill DeVoe, Johnny Gill, just to name a few. Yeah. And so the A Town Horror Boys, they used to always tell me, um, Royal C used to always say, Hey man, you need to meet Daryl Cousin, man. He be dancing, he be bouncing like a mug. He said, Why you and you and D-Rock get together, y'all will make a good group. And this one I was like, and this was actually, yeah, about 14, 15.
SPEAKER_0214, 15 years old.
SPEAKER_00But I had I had knew the A Town Hard Boys from coming in the barbershop since I was 10. Gotcha. I had known them and music industry people before it was time, how I look at it. And so when I got 15, out of all the when I turned 15, out of all the stories they used to tell he and I about each other that we didn't know at the time, because they used to tell D-Rock about me. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02And so one day now, did you guys know at the time that he was in music and all that? Like yeah, so yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, D-Rock was always in music.
SPEAKER_02So you knew that. Yeah, you never said, Hey, let's go.
SPEAKER_00Because I said one day I was gonna rap, but I ain't never known how it was gonna happen. But one day I'm gonna be a just stand up at the barber shop, say step aside for a second, and that was that was my riff. Okay. That's why that's why everybody knows me as everybody called me Lil' Rapping ass man. Hell yeah. Because I was like the radio, but um long story short, I go over to D's house, they used to have rap ciphers, and these were grown men at the time where we were kids. So they will have rap ciphers, and I kept trying to jump in. And I this is the first time I actually saw D-Rock. He was in the laying on the bed, and we were doing the, they were doing the rap cipher, and I kept saying, Let me rap, let me rap. They let me rap at the end. When I raped, D-Rock sat up off the bed like the undertaker would get up in the ring if he got slammed. When I rapped, he came up like this and his eyes was big. And he ain't say nothing, but cause I was rapping like his cousin them, but they're older than us. So he was looking at me like, wow, that man rap like this. And so his mom says, I'll never forget when D-Rock told me he knew who he was gonna rap with. He said, she said he came home and said, Mama, boy, it's the handicapped boy be over there with Daryl. Mama, he can rap. He can rap. That's who I'ma rap with. Now, this before we became young. Right.
SPEAKER_02And at the time, like, you know, you mentioned handicapped stuff. For a lot of people, maybe viewers don't know. Yeah, you grew up with cerebral palsy, right? Yeah, I was born.
SPEAKER_00That ain't nothing happens to you over time unless you end up in a bad accident or something. But yeah, I was born with cerebral palsy. My mama said when I was born, they had like about four or five tubes stuck in my head. Because when I was born, I was seven months premature and my lungs weren't developed. And um I started talking before I started walking. I was two. You were rapping already. Yeah, I was two years old in the high chair. My mom said you used to make the beat. She said you used to sing, she said you would sing, bounce, roll skate, and make the beat with your voice. You be sitting in the high chair, you'll say, bounce, roll cake. Then she said, You said, mm-mm, roll boun. She said, she said, I knew it was gonna be something to you when you grew up. But like crazy. I lived in Capitol Home. D-Rock lived in Inglewood, but he wanted to shoot Bankhead Bounce in Inglewood. The Inglewood Project wouldn't let him do it, do it. He was able to shoot it in Capitol Home, though. That was that's where I was from. And it kind of is a it's a weird motivational story because my mom used to change her cousin that's in the A Town Hard Boys.
SPEAKER_03Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_00My mom used to keep him when he was a baby.
SPEAKER_01Oh, really?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's like looking out for him. Yeah, like me and D-Rock. God puts people in that circle, man. Right, man. Yeah, he figures it out. You you it figures itself out. Yeah. As long as you don't get in the way. Right. Yeah, but we're not actually twins. The word, the name of the group, Yin Yang Twins, actually is an acronym. Um, I always felt like party music was good with being from Atlanta, but it never really got respect as a real lyrical content thing. It was just, it's good for the party, women gonna come, people gonna have fun. Right. Bop. So I said to myself that the Yin Yang twins, the group should stand for something. So the word is actually an acronym, but it'll look crazy on the album, Y period, I period, N period, G period. You know, it'll be right. So let's hear it. What's it say? What's it stand for? Um the the group's title stands for y'all in for it, now guppies, young, advanced Negroes gaining things, and we always wins. From the point of when we started, we ain't had nothing to lose. Right, right. We ain't twins. Plus, we wanted to be the face of party music. Which you definitely did that, right? You definitely did that. Like they didn't were the first one. They didn't have a big face thing on African Bambada or Planet Patrol or Nucleus, right? They just had albums with art on it. Right. Or no art. You know what I'm saying? So we actually wanted to be the face of party music. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And what was your first show that you did? You remember? When you and D-Rock did.
SPEAKER_00Man, I did a lot of I did shows with D-Rock when he was deep, Bankhead Bounce, D-Rock. And footnote, D-Rock's Bankhead Bounce was the reason why we seen Michael Jackson do the Bankhead Bounce on that award show that year. Ah. He was Bankhead Bounce got released on Electro Records.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_00And uh uh, I remember our first show we did as the Yin Yang twins. Buster Ryan walked in the room and said, Hey, hey, you was on labels with me. He was talking to D-Rock. He was like, We was label mates and you was a kid, man. And I was like, Wow, D-Rock, this Buster Ryan. He was like, We the Yin Yang twins. I'm like, Wow. We rap for two totally different reasons. But the first shows of me doing with D-Rock, I think the first Gainesville, George. Gainesville, Georgia. He he had to do a show at Dot Dot's Bottom Up in Covington. He did that one by us. I didn't go to that one, but I went with him to Gainesville. And I think we opened up for Ghetto Mafia. Oh, yeah? Yeah. All right. Yeah. And it was me and D-Rock on his show while he was D-Rock. D-Rock would try to give me money from doing shows with him. I just, that's your money, man. Yeah. You D-Rock. No, but Shadow, you be helping me. It's all good, man. I ain't with you for that.
SPEAKER_02Nice. Nice. We, I'm your partner. Nice. For real. That you know what? It's funny because that doesn't happen these days. You know what I mean? It don't happen no days.
SPEAKER_00If no, if you're not going to activate it, it won't happen.
SPEAKER_02That's a fact. That is a fact.
SPEAKER_00You gotta activate it, man.
SPEAKER_02Or it'll aggravate you. Right. Now, did you realize Crunk was just getting hit out there like this was the first time that kind of music was hidden? Or were you doing it for that, or were you doing it for the clubs? Just for the just for the I was.
SPEAKER_00I like music because I like music. It ain't got nothing to do with people or nothing. It got something to do with how my parents embedded loving music in my spirit. You know what I'm saying? And so I always knew I gotta take my glasses off because this is a serious thing to me, although it doesn't seem like that. No. For people, I always knew I was gonna be a rapper, like for real. And I always said to myself writing, if I can't write this enough to hype me up, how is it gonna hype somebody else up? Right. If you're not gonna exert or show the feeling that you want people to give you for your music on your own, how can you expect them to just wanna do it? We know that you can be force-fed things, they can put stuff on TV and on the radio and just keep playing it. And one day you'll start saying it's a hit. But when we started out, it was when we started, it was more honesty and that ain't no hit record. Versus now they just pushing anything through. And like the way we did music, we wanted to attract people to have fun. Uh along with having messages in the music, be it zany, realistic, or just kicking the bobo. That's shooting the shit. So um I always me and D-Rock always were fans of people that made music that came before us. And like while he was D-Rock, we were still going to concerts watching other rappers as they were coming out. Who's your favorite guy? Who's your favorite? Who's who's some of the artists that you look up to? Man, all of the old ones, all of the 70s artists. Reason why I say that. You gotta have a favorite. Who's your favorite?
SPEAKER_02My favorite, like of all time. Yeah. Who's the one that stands out the most? Like, man. And he really, he really gave me some inspiration. Or she, for that matter.
SPEAKER_00I it's a hard go-to for me, cuz I I uh you can name more than one. Ice Cube and Scarface. Okay, couple good ones right there. Yeah, like I'm a I'm a I'm a NWA Ghetto Boys junkie. What I mean is they were addressing realistic issues rapping. Today, you can't say much. Somebody, oh, we gotta get rid of them. They saying this and that. Look at I look at the world like this. Look at how we're doing ourselves. That's what I'm tripping on. So I feel like it's me and D-Rock's job to take the shlack off of people. What be holding them down. Like I've seen so many ex-military shouts out to the armed forces. Yeah, love y'all. There you go. Um, I've heard so many people though say that our me and my brother album got them through a turn. That's what music's all about, though.
SPEAKER_02You know, the resonance is about a push. Exactly. But it's just it's to resonate with a lot of people that are out there, you know, that don't know how to express themselves. Yeah, you know what I mean? Because life did that. Yes, life happens every single day and every moment, and you don't know what's gonna catch up with you. Uh uh. And then all of a sudden you're you're down, and all of a sudden you hear that on the radio, and you're like, there it is. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? That's that the message I needed to hear. Yeah, you know, that's gonna help me get to tomorrow. Yeah, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_00Are you hearing, yeah, and then get something off of you.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, for sure. You know, did you when you put the time into the music, did you have certain things in mind when you guys are recreating the music? Or do you just get in the studio and say, you know what, let's let you know, let's just brainstorm or let's just let's just let the vibe go.
SPEAKER_00Brainstorming was always how we started.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. She always had a plan of, hey, let's take a topic.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, well, yeah, whatever the topic we pick. Yeah, I don't have to pick topics. I just happen to be faster than everybody. Right. Because I for a long time, before my mom let me sign a contract on my own, she told me the contract you're gonna bring in my house is a diploma. There you go. So you ain't doing no rapping. If I don't get no diploma, ain't no contract rapping. There you go. So that was so all those years I harness my crab. Hornished the crab, harness the crab.
SPEAKER_02Go to Amazon today and purchase money management for beginners. A book for everybody, especially younger kids. Kids that get money don't know what to do with it. This is the best$20 you'll ever spend. We'll save you millions. That's right. I said millions of dollars if you start young and earn you the same. A M A Z O N Amazon. And um, like stuff is just different now. It's way different now. And we're gonna talk about that in a minute. I want I do want to go back though to your younger years because you growing up having cerebral palsy and all that. Did people treat you differently in the music world because of that?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, they did.
SPEAKER_02I mean, how did that affect you?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, they did, but it started with my two big sisters. They used to wake me up out of my sleep with a fock. You got cerebral palsy, you ain't gonna be no punk. Get up. You already walked like that. You ain't gonna go outside and be no punk. I'm talking about every day. Really? That's awesome. Doom doom. Doom doom. Ah, stop hollering. You I'm talking about for real. Yeah. It was a my sister used to say, this was an all-woman house till you got here. So you can imagine how them raw rumbles went. Oh, yeah, especially that time of month. I bet you was real. Man, listen, I ain't even know nothing about it. I just thought that was a part of the attitude.
SPEAKER_02What about school and stuff? Kids, other people think, uh oh man.
SPEAKER_00Hey, listen, I'm gonna I'm gonna put it to you like this. I don't care what people say, there's never not been a time that the world has been in a recession. And there's never been a time where in this world you were not going to uh experience bullying. Right. So you have to But you gotta know about it. Yeah, and see the thing is where we messed up at, like the Gen X's got the Gen Z screwed up unless you hold on to what you were brought up with. See, we pass kids gadgets in exchange for human communication, right? Or rewarded them an award of some sort when they've done nothing to achieve it. Participation award. Right. I'm that glad to be here. I showed up. I showed up in our time now, right? You know, you can show up in class and get a D.
SPEAKER_02That's right, right, right, exactly.
SPEAKER_00So I get it. Yeah, but like, yeah, the bullying stuff, that stuff was real, man. I had to walk you. I had to walk to the store. You're either it whatever happens to you, it either kills you or bills you.
SPEAKER_02Did you ever feel like it was killing you? You wanted to quit?
SPEAKER_00I ain't uh uh my my my my inside never felt like that. That's good. I was always a never say die person. You know what I'm saying? So I don't when people do that stuff, I don't get it. Right. When when kids they they kids, a child can say everything they want to say to you and talk to you like they your parent. But when you tell them to apply themselves to something, they load up and can't think and want to blow up and can't breathe. And oh, don't talk to me, bruh. Uh this is what I hate. This that bruh terminology, the men talking to the women, talking about bruh. Yeah, boy, I can't stand it. What is bruh? I'm your brother, right? That's your sister. Stop rerouting. We were good with E Bunnyx. Because we can explain that just by being cut short. Uh where you fixing to go, well, where you finna go? Where y'all going? Where we at? You know, but the it's all this stuff is our fault though. Because in life, life is an all-inclusive, exclusive. And what happens is when we come up short in something, if we don't have the notion to think above it, then you'll fall back and you'll sit in that seat, and every time something comes up, you'll never get past that seat because you became comfortable. Right. No one told you life was supposed to be comfortable. You gotta, you gotta apply effort. It is stuff is not gonna just drop in your lap. You have to go get it. Right. You gotta apply yourself. It ain't it it's not like there's a planet for people that think they're all good and a planet for people that are all bad. It's one planet. You gotta learn how to coexist. Right. You know, but I I feel like media and stuff, they pump stuff in our faces that makes it harder and harder every day. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Like when we Well, they they steer you in the direction that they want you to go. Right. I mean, think about this.
SPEAKER_00But now, watch this now. Theoretically, but not morally. That still has to come from you. Yeah. If you have any instilled inside of you. Now, if you don't, then they're gonna have their way with you. They're gonna take you down through there and bring you back up through there. You know, but I learned that real wise people don't sit and consult in buffoonery, which is What a lot of people may think our music sounds like.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_00Because it got the animated tone optic. You know, talking about tone.
SPEAKER_02Let's talk about that real quick. Come on.
unknownYou kind of talked a little bit low. Oh.
SPEAKER_02You did the whispering in one of your songs, right? Hey, listen. Where did the whispering come from? Mr. Kylie Park. Who was it? Wait?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Yeah. Mr. Kylie Park gets all the credit for telling us to whisper on the song. Really? So that was just one. We were known for being loud and obnoxious. Uh-huh. So it was ingenious just to do something totally different. Right. Which is which is what people will get once we put out this new project that we're working on. Let's hear it. What we got going? What we got going? We got the yin-yang twins. I know a lot of people think that our career is dead because we've only just been still just doing concerts. But the world needs to party. People need to learn how to relax. So it's our job as the ghetto super twins. There you go. To go around the planet and help people feel good.
SPEAKER_02Now, ghetto super twins. I like that. You got an emblem for that? You need a new emblem. We gotta get some merch with that album. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So um this album will reflect every album we've made, with an exception. There's a lot of mature growth with us on this album. We're still the Yin Yang twins. As in what the world didn't give, they can't take. My brain is always zany. You know what I'm saying? That's who I am. And so me and D-Rock, we just get together and go in the studio and make magic. It's not even really a hard thing. It's fun. We love music. So it's like really not having a job. Right. But to listen to all of these new babies. See, when we I I feel like this about it, everything has to have a limitation or a level. Um these new kids lack education. So, like, whereas ignorance was bliss with our hooks, today they just literally talk ignorant. Like, I don't get a lot of stuff they say or the way they say it, but they just straight say stuff. Like, what what I'm saying is the songs we made, I was telling girls to shake their butt without saying that. She got her hands all on the knees and then her bows on her thigh. I'm like the twerking that for certain things. She got me hype. I want to bite it right now, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Say aye. Were you at the club one night and you thought about that? Because you saw somebody and you're like, mm, let me write this down.
SPEAKER_00My brain kind of just always been like that. I trained myself to do that.
SPEAKER_02So, like uh shaking like a salt shaker. You, you know, was that out in the club? Nah. Let me read about that.
SPEAKER_00I was, I was, I was two days late to the studio. Lil' John and the East Side Boys and D-Rock were already in the studio. I wasn't there. Okay. Okay. Yeah. So I it like I'm a visionary. So that's a quarterback.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I can see the whole play. I already know we're gonna score.
SPEAKER_02It's a win.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Let me ask you something. You you know, you obviously had a ton of hits. Did you ever, you know, what were some of the hits that you ended up having that you didn't think were hits, but they turned out to be.
SPEAKER_00There were songs on our albums that people actually bedroom boom. I knew it was a hit then, but we didn't. It was like labels only wanted to put out female club music. That was that honestly, Mr. Khalipark told me and D-Rock he's selling sex. Right.
SPEAKER_02I hate that was part of the history back then, though. Yeah, you know, 90s and stuff.
SPEAKER_00I hated rap. I love who don't love sex? That's how we're even have you're here. Who doesn't love sex? So I get I get that, but I didn't want to sell pussy. I was trying to find a better way to say it, but uh uh I just got I gotta be honest. I didn't want to sell pussy, yeah. It sells itself, right?
SPEAKER_02But that but but you were told this is what you have to do, right?
SPEAKER_00And so the reason why those songs are hits is because I hate rapping about women. So it makes me say shit. Because I don't like my brain is bigger than her vagina, yeah. Like this me, and this is who I've always been. Like, and Mr. Kylie Paul told me, man, you like to rap about the government and stuff. I said, why not rap about what we're going through? We're going through it. How is it okay for them to just say something at the TV and you go for that, and you'll beat my brain up, talking about what they talking about, or acting like they know what they're talking about when they only playing the speculate game. They fishing for people who gonna bite. Of course. It's a business, right? Right. And life is a business. Life is the business of God. Well said. What I what I mean is again hold on. Life is the business of God. There you go. Not man. That's the part why I don't get while people be flexing and acting like you don't see what is really going on in your face. This me, and and I say what I'm finna say now, I might get in trouble, I might not. I don't give a damn. You can say whatever you want. What I want. Listen to me. Black, white, whatever nationality is tuning in. Listen to me. John D. Rockefeller, Andrew Carnegie, and JP Morgan cornered the working market. Neither one of these three dudes liked each other for competition purposes. Right? They were only paying people two cents on a dollar for this work. Listen now. There was only a democratic party because the workforce was sucking the life out of out of what was giving life to the world and the workforce, but the world spent first. Right. Them three cats got together and went and bought the Republican president seat. Because they knew if that dude had kept coming at them, he was gonna put a hole in them. So they went and bought this Republican seat. It was already a Democratic seat. This was the only thing. So what I'm getting at is this. Learn in life how to take the two cents they giving you that they robbing everybody's life out of. Learn how to take your two cents and make it count. Because that's all everybody's getting. I don't give a damn if you're the wealthiest man on the planet. The way they got this thing set up, we're not getting but two cents off of the dollar they keep taking in, being turned more and more wealthy, and you sitting around still doing the same blame game. At least you owe it to yourself to get in there and fight for what you think is yours. I ain't gonna go for the pity party. You can kick that shit somewhere else. And how I got like this? Because when I was going growing up, man, the bullying thing is real, right? I didn't know so many people had so much uh uh uh mental health issues, but I figure it'll come if you ain't never had nobody in your house to walk up every day and tell you they love you and give you a hug. Or give you some type of notion to have a lift. I went to Skyline Cripple Children's Center, man, from five years old until I turned 18. It took until I turned 18 when a doctor came in that place and said, Hey man, why your mama ain't got your money for you? You have this disease. The social worker told my mom he has the disease, but he's too smart. He's ineligible for us to give him any money. I jumped up and said, This some bullshit. My mom slapped me. Bush at your mouth. No, I ain't mom. Uh uh. I have came in this place since I was five years old. The transportation service was Marshall Newsom back then. I have came in this place. I took a questionnaire when I was 12. The first question said, Do you think about suicide? I I more yes. The lady said, Eric, why you more yes on that questionnaire that said, Do you think about suicide? Yes. I said the questionnaire asked me, do I think about suicide? It didn't ask me what I committed. The lady threw the pen down, said I'm ineligible for the help. Now, mind you, I still got a leg that seizes up on me and gives. On one hand, I supposed to be getting something from this great place of mine where I live, Atlanta, Georgia, in this world, right? They don't even want to give me what they're supposed to give me. But you can't stop what God wants. I end up being okay anyway. Right. Stop just saying.
SPEAKER_02You think that's what drove you for some of your success? You know, looking back.
SPEAKER_00I never wanted nobody to pity me.
SPEAKER_02But that's what I'm saying. Like having going through those struggles and feeling that way actually revealed who you really are.
SPEAKER_00It makes you it if it don't make you stronger, it's gonna make you think everybody owes you something. Yeah. So you'll walk around with a chip so big you're gonna break your neck, right? You know, from looking down all the time. Hey, people have to learn the way up is down. The bottom of the surface is what supports the roof. That's right. That's right. People people think I a lot of people may not know this, but the pyramids that are in Egypt, them pyramids would not be standing if they just stood up from the floorboard of what you look at and call the floor of the pyramid. Because you see it on the ground exposed. There's a whole bottom end to their pyramid that look just like the top look inside the earth. That's the only way it cannot be moved. So, what I'm saying is there is nothing to be said. You gotta learn how to work together.
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SPEAKER_00I I it may be hard for some people. I think that everybody's greatest rap group don't like me and the me and D-Rock.
SPEAKER_03Oh, yeah?
SPEAKER_00Why? Because you guys get along so well? We're no, we're normal. We're regular. I can go anywhere in Atlanta from the worst side of town to the best. I can go anywhere in California, from the worst side of town to the best. Everybody can't do that.
SPEAKER_02Right. That's freedom. I think I don't know as if everybody can do that, but there's also people that don't want to do that. I get that, but you know, but you don't forget where you come from and you treat everybody the same.
SPEAKER_00Listen to what I'm saying though. I understand people not wanting to do that. But there's always gonna be more poor people than rich or wealthy. Facts. So with me, that's where my heart resonates. Cause them people catching the most hell. Right. And that's where y'all start. Yeah. We all start there. See, rich and wealthy people, hell come from them, want to go back down the level. See, they you know where the the the the shit you done lived your whole life in brightness. I want to go down there. It ain't nothing for you down there. It's not.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_02Unless you started there.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_02That's what I mean. And that's what I think. But I think there's something to that. Kate Kane, I gotta ask you though, seriously. Don't you think there's something to that though? Because if you start, you start in a in a poverty level, you start where you're broke, you start where you don't have it. Like I grew up, I didn't have water. You know what I'm saying? I know what the struggle is about. Right. You know, you have that struggle. So therefore, as you start gaining, you know, a little bit more education, you start getting a little bit smarter, you start learning things, you start seeing that things can change if you work hard, right? You start realizing, okay, I got a better quality, a better quality of life, better this. And I don't want to go back down there. But you stay humble and true to it all because you remember what it took to get there and you know what it was like. Versus some of these kids today, some of these people there wake up, you know, and and all of a sudden, you know, they they they woke, they woke up into a bunch of success. You know what I mean? Because their parents were successful. Or you know, their their mom and dad had money. So they don't know what it's like to struggle, you know, and then unfortunately it kind of cripples them as life is but all struggles aren't about economics.
SPEAKER_00Facts. Facts. Like there's I don't think there's a person in Atlanta that can't agree with this. If you grew up broke, then the best time in your house had to be when it was time to eat. Right. Hands down. Yeah, the funniest time in the house was seeing family, seeing, laughing, having fun, and eating. Other than that, kids going outside, parents going to work, and parents get so old they forget that they were children. This is where breaks stuff down. You have to realize that you once did what you're looking at your kids and don't want them to do. Stuff has to happen. There's no way around that. I just learned how to seeing so many closed doors in my face, bro. Made me say, even when I see them, I don't see them. Explain that.
SPEAKER_02Explain that to the viewers what do you mean by closed doors?
SPEAKER_00Closed doors. Opportunities. Things, things, opportunities that you wish for yourself or want for yourself, and you strive and work toward them. Give an example, and you still don't get it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Give an example of something that happened to you that really sticks with you.
SPEAKER_00Um the first person that really closed that door to you and said, now you're Wayfield on Memorial Drive in Atlanta, Georgia. I was going to Krim High School, Old Murphy High School. Um my mom had started telling me once I turned 16 in the house, okay, man, you're gonna have to get a job. Cause you and your brother gonna have to put in on the water bill. Water bill didn't come every month, it came every two months, I think. So the water bill was like$500. So my mom went around with me looking for a job. Man, this ain't no lie. She went around with me looking for a job about a year, man. Nobody would hire me. I walked through the door, they look at my legs, said, We not hiring. And when we got back home, it almost made my mama cry. She said, Man, I see how these folks look at you. I was trying to get a job, man. No bullshit, man. All the way up until I turned 18 years old. Nobody would hire me.
SPEAKER_01Nobody.
SPEAKER_00Nobody would hire me. Now, I can say this, I went to the temp service while I was in high school, and me and my partner worked at uh the post office. I walked worked at the Georgia Crown Liquor Warehouse, me and D Rock, and we worked at uh Honey Bake Ham on Roswell Road. So there were times when we had to try, you know what I'm saying? And so I did. And so, but nothing kind of stuck. But my my mom had uh married my stepdad. She married my stepdad when I was turning 12. So she's they still married today. So um he asked us, buddy, you gotta put some men on the bills in here. Me and his son, my stepbrother. And um one day, man, I just gotta be under man. I looked at my mom, looked at my stepdad. I said, Listen, y'all have seen how I done went out here and tried to get job. Nobody hired me. I looked at both of them with the ugly face. I said, You want the money from me for the bill and staying in the house, you want the same thing. I gotta go out here and do what I gotta do. Don't question me about nothing. I'm gonna bring you your money. That was the deal. See, that's the shit in life that black kids deal with. Straight up. If nobody hires them, what the fuck are you gonna do? You gonna sit there and keep on doing that shit? Or you gonna get up and get out here and make some money however you can? Everybody get a shitty deal hand dealt to them. Even the wealthy hand got a shitty deal to it. Because what if if the if if you fall out of the wealthy hand, the shitty deal is when you hit rock bottom. But you will. Right. Even if you think you will. You will. You gotta read it. You have to find out in life what is your sole purpose. Everybody's not good at finding out what they're good at. Because everybody doesn't know how to express themselves about certain things. There's no contract to life. I think. So how did you get the money?
SPEAKER_02Let's let's just go let's talk about it. So weed. There you go. I saw weed. So you're out there on the streets, you know, moving weed, doing dope.
SPEAKER_03I saw weed at school.
SPEAKER_02Hey, listen. Now hold on. Did your mom and dad know this?
SPEAKER_00No, but they found out.
SPEAKER_02I was gonna say.
SPEAKER_00But it guess what though? It took some time for they just, and I wasn't just uh, I'm not flamboyantly exposing myself like that's the real shit to do. That's the dumbest damn thing. It was the thing you had to do. It was survival at that time.
SPEAKER_02We gave you an ultimatum. You need to get some money.
SPEAKER_00So it was not about me telling Louis. It's finding a way. Right. I've had conversations with the police sitting in the trap.
SPEAKER_03You hear me?
SPEAKER_00We all are from the same cloth. You can act like you're not. I'm sorry, it's a lie. And that's a fairy tale world. And when you get your wing clipped, you get one set of wings, and then they clip them, and then you gotta work to get that other pair.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Hello and goodbye. Hey man, all I can say is this. Life is a marathon that is a relay race that we have yet to pass the pluton in.
SPEAKER_03Say that again.
SPEAKER_00Life is a marathon that is a relay race that we have yet to pass the baton in. There it is.
SPEAKER_02Mic drop.
SPEAKER_00Hey, testing. See, I think I know how to get people to live up. Cause I did. Sure. And I had to realize I was surviving a trauma. But that is no more. But I gotta say, I like that lyric CeeLo Green says when he said, I kind of like being po. At least I know where my friend here for. If people coming to see you and you poor, that's right. They're really your friends. That's right.
SPEAKER_02That's right.
SPEAKER_00If ain't nobody coming to see you if you ain't got none, you ain't got no friends.
SPEAKER_02It's funny. They they say, you know, when everything's good, you got all kinds of friends. But when things go bad, that's what that's when you find out where your real friend is.
SPEAKER_00I don't really, I don't really look at that like that no more. I think that people don't have friends or the people that sit and talk to God all the time. Oh yeah. What makes sense? Nobody, cause nobody as fleshly as people are, don't nobody want to sit around and talk about God.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_02I wouldn't say that. Hey, listen. We can sit here and talk about God.
SPEAKER_00Listen, I know it. You know, I know it. And we can talk about the many different interpretations that people may have, but we gotta say what's the truth.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00See, that's the part I'm talking about about it that people don't want to talk about. Like the Jewish community praised Moses. Right? Even Moses knew he wouldn't it. Right. Because he told them people when the boy came in the crowd. Look at him.
SPEAKER_03Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_00Pay attention to this boy. You see what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_02Right, right.
SPEAKER_00It made sense.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it does. So you know what? Listen, uh, Kane, you you've had a lot going on throughout your life. Like growing up, I mean, your story tells itself, right? I mean, coming coming from where you came from, people picking on you, being bullied, having cerebral palsy, being a little bit different from others, right, and still finding a way, whether it had to go selling weed, dope, making music. Yeah. But then came some success. Okay. Yeah, let's talk about that. Because when you first started getting the success, and you first started realizing, hey, I'm different, but I'm specially different, like in a good way. And people actually love me now.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_02You know, when you started feeling the love from the crowd and from the people and from your music, and then people are starting to pay you for it. How did that change you?
SPEAKER_00Honestly, it did. I ain't lying, man. I remember coming home just when we had just came out with True City Thugs on Jermaine Dupree's So So Death based all star. I had just started working at U-Haul. I came home. And and Mr. Kylie Paul with DJ Smurf at the time. He pulled up to the house. Boy, you the song y'all did on So So Death got a royalty check. So I got a check from my job, and this boy done brought me$2,500 from a song. I'm 18. Yeah. Okay. So look, from 98 to 19 to August of 1999. That was the time when me and uh DJ Schmerz, Mr. Kylie Park used to be on the phone. I would be at work at U-Haul. This was right before we dropped Whistlewile to work. Oh yeah? Yeah. So I'm at U-Haul. Uh I think it's 5906 Moria Drive. And right across from where I work at is the hip hop cafe. This is where all the stars go, you know. So I'm renting trucks. There's a lot of people moving out of Atlanta. So as I'm renting trucks, we finna start the we um I come up with the whistle while you twerk who at the job.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, because I ain't I ain't had my license. And that was weird. U-Haul kept me on. You got to have a license to work at U-Haul. That's how good of a workout I was. They weren't, they refused to fire me. Right. I was the best man in the store. Hey man, they said, I tell I call Khali Park every day, I'm finna quit this job, man. Don't quit, Kane. Uh well, look, I got this beat. Say this funny hook to this beat. And I used to always make funny hooks. So I I went through about seven or eight hooks. Then I got the whistle while you twerk. Whistle while you twerk. He said, ha ha ha ha ha! That's it, dawg. And um I used to walk home from work because I lived in Scott Dale. And uh I used to walk home from Memorial Drive walk. I stayed off uh Glendale and Parkdale drive in Scottdale. I used to walk home from work and I was walking and it was the weekend. I got to the house and me and my roommate walked to the store. We always walked to the store. We walked to the store and I just kept singing, whistle while you twerk. Whistle while you twerk. I had been saying that junk for like a week and a half.
SPEAKER_02Couldn't get out of here.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, couldn't get whistle while you twerk. And the day, payday, we walked to the store, and I came back. We came back to the house. And when we walked in the yard, my roommate, I said, whistle while you twerk, whistle while you twerk. And my roommate said, Go ahead and start and make the pussy for it and whistle while you twerk. And he looked at me, he said, Shout in. Why you go put a beat to that right there? Uh-huh. That was it. So Mr. Collie Park came up with the beat. And then he invested$10,000 into the whistlewiley twerk sink. Man, we sold 250,000 units at$10 a pop. That was what made Universal come to us. Now, mind you, we already going around the world making money.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_00Don't nobody even know what we look like. Ain't no internet. This is before that's right, social media. Social media stuff. We going around, we getting$5,000 a show just to perform Wilson Wiley Twerk. I tell you, I'll never forget it. Look, we had got our income tax check from U-Hall. I got my income tax check. My income tax check was about$7,500. I ain't never seen this more money at one time. Look, I'm boy, it checked fat. I'm on the phone with Mr. Kelly Park. He called the job. He said, Man, I got 500 shows booked for y'all at$5,000 a pop. I said, What? He said, I got 500 shows booked for y'all. At$5,000 a pop. I said, boy, I'm finna quit.
SPEAKER_02Is that your last day?
SPEAKER_00He said, yeah, he said, he said, dog, hold on, hold on. I said, hold on, my head. I'm out this motherfucker. Hey, I looked at my partner. My partner, Louis Fanbrough, he got me the job. This is how I started working at UHA. I end up having to take a job at McDonald's. I was 18, finna get ready to graduate from high school. We always felt like McDonald's was a pick job, a kid's job, you know, 14, 13, 14, McDonald's, that type of job. Man, I was so embarrassed by working at McDonald's.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I used to catch the last bus so that I can catch the last bus home. I don't want nobody on the block to see me with the uniform, mom. And one night my partner said out loud, the same one that said the end of the whistle while you twerk hooked to me. He said, I see you, Cav. May I take your order? And my and my partner, Louis Fanbro, he came over to the house. He said, What the hell are you doing with a McDonald uniform on? I said, I told you, stupid motherfucker, I need a job. My mama didn't talking about me and Nate got to pay the$500 water bill. And that's when he got me the job at UH.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00That's how you got it. You how hey man, you oh I still go see them. They say, You still making a mockery of us.
SPEAKER_02Right. I live you're still throwing them out there. They should be paying you right now. They should be sponsoring. You owe me about 40,000. Shoot, they should be sponsoring you right now. All the advertisement you're getting.
SPEAKER_00And I don't need all them broke down trucks.
SPEAKER_02Hey, let's talk about the money for a second. What was your very first big purchase when you started getting some money? What was the first thing you purchased that you would call was a big purchase?
SPEAKER_00I never had bought a new car.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I always bought antique cars. I'm an antique fanatic. I went and bought that Chrysler 300. Oh, yeah. Big one. Yep, with a Hemi in it back at that. Oh no, it didn't, it didn't come with a Hemi back then. It was a it was a V6. Listen. I never had bought a new car. Never. I wasn't gonna do it. I always said that to me, in my job to show kids in the ghetto that you can make it and you could just get something like this and be okay with yourself. I wasn't trying to push the envelope on no Ferraris and all that old. It wasn't me. I went and bought the Chrysler 300. The day I bought it, I bought it from Dimer Chrysler on Thornton Road. And and and before they brought it out of there, I modified some stuff at the dealership before they gave it to me. I said, um, it was a plain silver Chrysler 300. I said, before y'all give me this car, I need y'all to put a brain, a sunroof in it. Y'all need to put the grill on the front of it. And I went home and got my dub 22s. You remember the people, the real people. Yeah. We used to do a lot of shows for them. Yeah. They gave me some rims. I made them put my dub 22s on there. Then once I got the car from Diama Chrysler, I took it to my father. Earl Scheib taught my daddy how to paint. My daddy put a chameleon purple paint job on there. Purple paint job. Well, I can't.
SPEAKER_02We got pictures of this. We got pictures of this car. You gotta give me a picture of this car so we can pop it up, man.
SPEAKER_00I don't know.
SPEAKER_02You gotta sign, you gotta find me a picture.
SPEAKER_00Everybody with Mr. Kali Park kissed the ground. He said, Praise the Lord. The bottom bought a new car, Lord. I I'm just certain stuff don't appeal to me. Yeah. Like it doesn't. That's good. That's good. It's a it's a if you're not gonna keep it right, it's a waste, it's a waste of time.
SPEAKER_02Why is it today, though, people think, especially in the music, they think they have to have that clout, they gotta have that show. That's how they think. You know, because well, because they're trying to they feel like they gotta keep up with the Joneses, and that's what people are looking at. They feel like the younger kids are looking at the stuff.
SPEAKER_00You'll do better if you just keep up with yourself. A hundred right. See, you just see, see, walking around looking at what somebody else is doing and wanting what they're doing, you might not want the job it takes to get that. Nobody sees that part, right? Exactly. So it's a perception propaganda, false world that lives in reality. So when they wake up off of the crack bench, uh being a fame whore is like being a crack addict or uh internet addict or a studio addict. It's the same thing. You're dealing all your time into it. Right. Let it give you something back. If it doesn't, then it's a waste. And I also learned this. You know that scene, drop that zero and get with the hero?
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I learned that the zero is the hero.
SPEAKER_01That's right.
SPEAKER_00Yep. That's why smart guys learn how to round up to zero. Right. Because it's gonna take the zero to lift up your bank account. You started your bank account with one dollar. At the end, if you're getting paid a dollar a day, at the end of the day Friday, you're gonna have five dollars. Right? And then another five, added to that five, you get a one, and then you gotta bring up a what? Zero. And then you get ten dollars, uh, you get ten dollars ten times, you gotta bring another zero up. Right. You gotta take so zero is the number that is the biggest number on the number chart to me. I like that because it's a very good way of looking at it, because as long as you're in a zero on the front, it also, right, it also represents the infinite one, it is the shape of the shape of earth, doesn't stop and it's spinning.
SPEAKER_02That's right. Right.
SPEAKER_00That's why these people think that every time they get money, you gotta be spinning, you gotta be spinning, you gotta be spinning, you gotta be spinning.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_00No, that ain't that ain't how to look at that. But that's how they give it to you.
SPEAKER_02All right, Kane. Here's a part of the show where I go, we do rapid fire questions. All right, so I'm gonna give you some questions. Speak out right off or off your head. First thing come to first thing come your head, man. Come on. All right, biggest club record you ever made.
SPEAKER_00Get low.
SPEAKER_02Atlanta or anywhere else? Who goes harder? Okay, all right. One artist today that you respect. Today, J.
SPEAKER_00Cole.
SPEAKER_02Okay, craziest club moment ever.
SPEAKER_00Still having them. Come on, give me one.
SPEAKER_02Um I believe you still have them. I know you are, but what's the crazy? Okay, give us a crazy one. Give us a crazy one. What happened?
SPEAKER_00We did a show for some teens, and the little girl, and the little girl fainted when she looked at D-Rock. She said, Oh my god, mama, it's really him.
SPEAKER_02Uh-oh, just like that. Yeah, I was like, wow. Okay. All right, song you made that you knew instantly was a hit.
SPEAKER_00All of them. I'm serious.
SPEAKER_02I I hey, I there wasn't one that was better than any others that you were like, man. That I like more. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I like I like by myself more than I like a lot of the records we got. Smoke by myself, drink by myself, fuck these old by my goddamn self, for real, by my goddamn self. I like that. All right, all right. Aye was great. It was great, but I like the by myself jingle better. Okay, it was more of who I was.
SPEAKER_02Who influenced you?
SPEAKER_00Everybody that came before me, man. And I I I took a piece of every I can take a piece of any and everybody that came before me. From the Isley brothers to Patty LaBelle to any rapper, Ice Cube, Tupac. Um we all in this together.
SPEAKER_02Who's the first person that you worked with that you got starstruck?
SPEAKER_00Go ahead. George Clinton.
SPEAKER_02All right, e phone. Okay. Um through everything, the fame, the music, and the success, what did it cost you personally? I mean, that people would never see.
SPEAKER_00The time with the growing and the different things with my family.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00It's gonna cost you that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Is it worth the cost? How do you balance it?
SPEAKER_00That's if it's worth it to you. See, the thing about that, being a star and then balancing family, they have to know that in order for you to become that, you have to go. Being an entertainer, just like being in the military.
SPEAKER_02Gotcha. Did success ever come with pain you weren't prepared for?
unknownShhh.
SPEAKER_00Life comes with pain you ain't prepared for. I knew what your answer was. So success, success only amplified the come with. The pain's always there.
SPEAKER_02That's it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02One last thing. If there's a kid out there right now dealing with something similar, okay, some of the challenges or struggles that you went through, feeling overlooked or doubted, what would you tell them right now today?
SPEAKER_00I was feeling here, feeling overloaded about it today. It doesn't matter what anybody thinks about you, but you do yourself first. You have to believe in yourself before you can get anyone else to believe in you. And you have to be willing to go the distance. Nobody knows the distance in life from beginning to end. Life only knows that. That's right. There you go. Life only knows that. So if you're don't do this, don't close your mind and think that because somebody does something that you don't like, that they deserve to die. Or they deserve to be hurt. Think higher than that. You gotta check your frequency. And you gotta want something better. And not only think these things, say these things out your mouth into the atmosphere, even if you're by yourself. Say them. It's called Believe It or Not, somebody has your back.
SPEAKER_02There you go. I love it. I love it. Hey, where can everybody find your new album? When's that gonna drop? When's it coming out?
SPEAKER_00I'm still I'm still putting the album together. We just when should we expect it? Um, I ain't I ain't have I don't have a set date yet. I'm not at Liberty to talk about it.
SPEAKER_02I got you. I got you. But it's happening, folks. It's happening. Yeah, it's happening. But you're out there touring right now, you're all over the place. I know you got a lot of you do a lot of work in Vegas.
SPEAKER_00Music comments, a lot of work. Shout out to Tao Club, Planet 13, my favorite herbatory spot. Shout out to Tao, shout out to the whole Las Vegas, man. The West Coast treats the Yin Yang twins very well, as does everyone else. I love you. If you love us, we love you. We wouldn't be anything without the people outside. So, on in a nutshell, we got music coming. I'm going to the radio stations all over the nation. I'm gonna give it to radio first because I just don't get all these gadgets. I get hand-to-hand communication. We gotta remember we're not obsolete. That's right.
SPEAKER_02Well, there you have it, folks. You know, you heard it right now. As as Kane just told you, it's flat out, you gotta believe in yourself first, okay? Make sure you believe in yourself. Don't let anybody tell you or make you feel like you're not capable or that you can't reach your dreams. He's a classic case himself, right there. You've seen his success. He's just getting started. He's not done yet. Are you kidding me? He's got parties to keep going, he's got a bunch of dance clubs that got to keep moving, and he's gotta keep people happy and entertaining. So thanks again for being on the show, Kane. And and as your boy always says, folks, if your life was a movie, would it be worth watching? And if the answer's no, it's not being ordinary, it's start being extraordinary. So next Wednesday, baby, stay positive and keep testing negative.