Montavious Ware | Is Mike Perry Next for This Undefeated Dirty Boxer?? | #149

This week,

I sit down with one of DBX's fastest-rising fighters, Montavious Ware.

Montavious joins us to discuss his recent success in the ring, the momentum he's building in Dirty Boxing, and why many believe he's one of the next names to watch in combat sports. We break down his latest fight, his training process, the mindset behind his performances, and what separates him from the competition.

We also discuss his journey into fighting, lessons learned throughout his career, future goals, and what's next as he continues climbing the ranks and making a name for himself in DBX.

If you're a fan of combat sports, rising talent, and the mindset it takes to succeed at the highest level, this is an episode you won't want to miss.



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Yo you know what your boy's Phil Wingabam Benamino baby it's another Wingabam Wednesday. You know the show about ordinary people who've done extraordinary things. And as always, baby, for subscribe, click the subscribe button down there. Make sure you hit the alert button, get all the alerts so you don't miss any of this good stuff. Because today I got a treat in the house. You might remember him, he was here once before. This guy, as you know, is young. He's a boxer, but they don't just call him a boxer. He's a dirty boxer. That's right. He's not only a dirty boxer, but he's 4-0 and on his way to champion. We got my David Swinner in the house. What's up, my David? What's up? What's up? Thank you for having me. Man, I'm so happy that you're here. Congratulations on your last fight, man. It was awesome out there in Miami. Yes. You know, you were at a co-main event. What was it like, man, being a co-main event on a dirty boxing card? You know, you got John Jones there, you know, big, big Mike Perry. Andrew Tate was there, you know. So Ram Bam was there, I was there, you know. What was it like with all the pressure? First, it was just a blessing to be a co-main event on a big car like that with so many stars in the building. And it was just exciting. I know I had to like show out and put on a good show. Even though I didn't do what everybody thought I was gonna do, I still got to win. Sometimes you gotta fight the win instead of fighting for the fans, and that's what I did. Well, you fought a really good appointment. Louis Sodano, I mean, he's not he's not no chump. You know what I'm saying? So, I mean, he's a he's a known fighter, MMA, you know. So uh, you know, he he was he was legit, man. He was bigger than you as well. Yeah, he was in the UFC. Yeah, he was in the UFC. I mean, he he's a he was a bigger guy, but to me, I think you handled him really, really well. Yeah, he got one little elbow, I think he he clipped you on the one. But uh, you know, that's what it's all about. It's not about, you know, if you're good when you're good, it's can you be good when you're down and you got to get up? Right. And you actually prove that you can do that. So that was that was that was a good thing. But you know, going into the fight, knowing that here you are in Miami, you got all these people here. I mean, John Jones is giving away cars and stuff in the beginning, you know, so there's a lot of hype, there's a lot of media, a lot of people out there, you know. You got UFC fighters from The Punisher was there, you know, cheering you on and everything. You you had to feel a little bit overwhelmed, you know, but you didn't seem the well overwhelmed. Like you seemed really cool, bro. Yeah, I was curious. Yeah, I was excited. I wasn't nervous at all. I knew it was my time, so like it didn't bother me at all that all them people was there and I was a co-main. It just made me excited to put on the show. Was there anything at all you were worried about though? Like, what was the game plan? Um, the game plan was really to go out there, box, fill him out the first round, and then the second round, I was gonna turn it up. But then when I turned it up, that's when he caught me with the elbow, and then I was like, all right, now I gotta go back to boxing and just point him out. But I was really just had to worry about his elbows. I knew going into the fight, he had good elbows, and I knew he was very skillful, so I just knew I had to be sharp and be on my P's and Q's. Yeah, now did he catch it hard? How did it feel, man? I mean, it's like when he threw it, it stunned me, so I tried to retreat. And when I retreated, like my feet got too close when I went when I went to the side, and then I fail. But it looked like you just got tripped up. It really didn't look like that. Like my feet hit each other when I was trying to get out of there. Because I wasn't trying to stay and get hit with another elbow. So I tried to get out of there and I I caught caught myself. Now, tell me about the pressure as far as three rounds. Yeah. I mean it's a three-round fight. You know, you you know, obviously at that point in time, you know, you figure what are your one-one, you know, you think it's close going into a third round. What's on your mind then when you're in your corner? When I'm in my corner, I was just like, I cannot get hit by another elbow. Yeah. So I knew I had to keep my distance and still win on points. And I don't try to go for the knockout and then get caught with another elbow because every time I got comfortable inside, the elbow came. So I knew I had to just box and just keep my distance. How about your coaches and stuff? You know, what what are they telling you in the corners? What was the game plan? Um that was and and do and do you stick to that game plan? Yeah. I tried to, but it was like he wasn't engaging. So like when they my corner told me to let him come to me. So I'll try to let him come to me, but he wasn't trying to come. Right. He was just really there to survive. Yeah. So like I just like, now I'm gonna just press your issue a little bit more and just keep coming forward. You definitely got a tank, man. You kept coming forward the whole fight. I mean, you're moving at him, you know, so you're there to fight and stuff. Did you ever get frustrated? Because there was a couple times, man, where it was like, you know, come on, let's go, let's throw. And, you know, he he was he wasn't having it. He wasn't gonna have it. You know, do you ever get frustrated like that when somebody's in there to fight, but they won't? Yeah, it was a little frustrating because I know like if he threw more punches, I was gonna be able to catch him with in between. And it wasn't like he wasn't throwing combinations for me to catch him in between. So it was a little frustrating because he didn't want to engage as much. Yeah. What what about after the fight? I know that notice after the fight, you know, you you weren't really happy. Even though you did your backflip, you know, you won, you got the win, and it was unanimous. Everybody, you know, knew that you won that fight. I don't think there was any discrepancy over it all, but you weren't happy. How come you weren't happy, man? Because I knew some things I I I could have done better in a fight, and I just didn't do it because I was too much in my head about getting in close and getting caught with another elbow. But now I know how I elbow feel and I know how to go through adversity. So I know my next fight is gonna be way better and way more entertaining. Because everybody thought, you know, since all my fights be so exciting and I always do tricks and stuff like that, and they didn't really get a chance to see that in this fight. Did you have a couple tricks in your back pocket that you were looking forward to doing that you didn't get a chance to do? Um not really. I really was just going in there to get the job done in this fight. Yeah. But yeah. Gotcha. I did I did want to do some like some elbow tricks and stuff like that, but you know it didn't happen. But it's uh Do you literally work on that stuff and practice and everything? Um, like as far as like elbows, yeah, but as far as when I like do my Roy Jones stuff, it just happens. Oh, yeah. When I feel comfortable, I just I just show up. Is he one of your idols, Roy Jones? Is that is that your dude? When I was a kid growing up, I watched him a lot. Him, Sweet P, just all those flashy guys. That's just not my style. It's flashy. Like the little Muhammad Ali days, you know. Now, can you uh do you do any rhymes with your people? Do you trash talk when you're out there? No, I don't really trash talk. I let I let my fist do the talking. Okay. Okay. I mean, you do, man. You get this big old smile. You're just happy to fight. Most fighters ain't happy, man. They're getting this mentality. They're like beast mode, but you just you're just happy to be there, man. It's like another day in a walk in the park. I like letting them feel me and weigh in. So that's why I like getting close. I just want to feel that that contact. Yeah. He know I'm ready. I gotcha. I gotcha. Um, you know, working up to the fight, you know, obviously you got a couple months to prepare. What's what what is it like as far as training goes? What is your training regimen? Obviously, you know, having a camp, you're still young, you know, uh, you know, dirty boxes, still fairly new. Yeah. But, you know, so the money's not right there all you know, all unless you win, right? Now you're in the money because you win a couple times. But the reality is, you know, it's expensive to keep maintain camp and your coaches and everything. Yeah. What do you do and how does how does that work and how does that affect you? Do you ever feel like you have a disadvantage because you don't have the proper funds to go out there and help yourself to get the proper coaches and stuff around you? Um, I feel like in some cases, yeah, because Chattanooga's a small city and we don't got like the best coaches and the best sparring partners, so we have to travel and get out the city. But I really I train hard on my own, so I know like what it takes to be the best. And I I watch people who I look up to and I just use their their schedule and what they do, and I implement it in my workouts. So like I run, I run like five to six days a week, um, like three to five miles, sometimes eight. And on Sundays I normally do my long run days, and then I also do my boxing every day. I box every day. Unless I got like I'm real busy and I can't get my boxing workout in. And then some days I do like explosive strength and then heel sprints and stuff like that. Now, what is it like as far as recovery goes? What do you do for recovery with your body? Because you gotta you gotta make sure it shit heals. Yeah, uh sleep. Sleep is my recovery. Yeah, you like the sleep. I don't like the ice bell, so we know that. We know that from the last episode. You know, we got you the cold plunge. You didn't do that too well. Oh, I also gotta um, well, I also do for my last fight, I had um Stacy in Cleveland with um Divine Parity, Devine, and she did my massage, my sports massage. Gotcha. So Stacy helped me out a lot. Stacy and sleep. Yeah, Stacy and sleep, massage and sleep. That's where it's at. What about food, man? You have any problem cutting weight? Um, nah. I really use um my meal prep people call um Harfield Meals. I used them for my my last count. Yeah. So they helped me, they gave me free meals and it helped me like four weeks out count. That whole four weeks I was using their meals and staying hydrated. You know, it's funny because you know, obviously I follow you and stuff and I see you're always working. And it's funny the day after your fight, you were out there training again. Yeah. You know, it's like you did not let any day go off, you know, which you know I I admire. I admire that about you. What what motivates you, man? With it to get up even like you don't even take any rest days, you know. Just being the best, trying to be the best, trying to motivate people. That's that's all. Yeah. I see that you're coaching a little bit too. Yeah. So you're training some people. Yeah. Yeah. That's why I'm making the money to to be able to fight and train. Yeah. But um, yeah, um, I do personal training. I've been doing that for about four years now. Boxing training, and it's been doing good. It's helping me put money in my pocket to pay pay my bills. Right. So, what's this whole dirty boxing league all about? Tell us a little bit about that. Give us a little background on that whole league and and and what's happened and how they've treated you and stuff. Yeah. Um, dirty boxing been around for about like a year or two now. And um, it just um if you knock somebody down, you got five seconds and ground a pound. You can use MMA gloves. It's MMA glove, eight ounce gloves or six, one of them. And then elbowing. Are you worried about catching a finger in the eye or anything like that? No, but I I keep jamming my finger every time though, like my thumb or my middle finger. Because there's a lot of controversy with the gloves with that. Yeah, because boxing, boxing gloves, they like close your hands up and the MMA gloves, you gotta kind of squeeze it together. And sometimes, like, if you got that thumb out a little bit, you can jam it. Right. Right. Um, but as far as how they're treating you and everything, yeah. Good stuff. They Yeah, they treat me good. Um, right now they want to build me up and and make me that star for dirty boxing. So they they treat me good. They gave me my own locker room when it was I was the only one with even the main event didn't he had a own locker room, and they gave it to me because they they they think I could be that guy. Go to Amazon today and purchase money management for beginners, a book for everybody, especially younger kids. Kids that get money don't know what to do with it. This is the best $20 you'll ever spend. We'll save you millions. That's right. I said millions of dollars if you start young and earn you the same. A M A Z O N Amazon. So tell me a little bit about what's something people assume about you that's completely wrong. People that, you know, when they when they look at you and they they hear about that, they think you're a certain way, but they're wrong. Um, people think I'm mean because like I don't really smile too much on my like training videos and stuff. So a lot of my friends um tell me how people come up to them and say they know who I am and they just think I'm a mean guy, but I'm just a quiet and nice guy, like if I know you. Yeah. Yeah. Um let's talk about fighting. Okay. If dirty boxing wasn't there, what would you be doing today? Boxing. Yeah? Straight up. Boxing, yeah. So are you now are you gonna pursue that as well? Of course, yes. Yeah, okay. I gotta get one of those green belts, WBC. Gotta get one of WBC. That's the that's the goal. Yeah. That's the ultimate goal. What weight class? Uh 147. 140. You ever thought about dropping a little bit more? No, I don't like cutting weight. No. No. No, but why is it that people do that? You know, they cut weight for a reason. Yeah. To get a better advantage. Right. Yeah. So you don't feel like you need that. No, I want to I wanna I actually want to build more muscle, put more muscle on. Yeah. Yeah, and I like fighting bigger guys. Gotcha. Yeah. What do you do in your camp? What's size? It's gonna be hard too, finding guys that are a little bit bigger that will even fight you. Yeah. You know, plus you want to make sure you stay healthy. You don't get hurt. Yeah. You know, is that I mean, how do you guys spar and how do you make sure that everybody's protected? I do a lot of hard sp um boxing rounds, but when I do MMA, it's kind of like light and more technique. But majority of people around me is bigger, so it's already getting me prepared to fight at 145 and 147. Yeah. When's the next round? When when when are you fighting again? Um, hopefully in June on a DC car if they still having it, you know, June. That's and if June don't happen, I'm gonna do a boxing match. Oh yeah. Now, do you think it'd be the main event? Um because I because I noticed they had the uh they had a championship fight prior to you. Yeah, of course, uh, what was it? The the Wolverine was it the Wolverine? The Wolfman. Wolf, the wolf man. Yeah, yeah, he lost. Yeah, he has a butt knocked out. I thought he was gonna win, how much he's gonna be. A lot of people thought he was gonna win, but he wasn't. He was entertaining. Yeah, but that's the thing about fighting, man. One punch. That's all it takes. You know, you catch somebody in the right spot or you know, in their eyes, the wrong spot at the right time, you know, they're gonna go down, you know, type of thing. Um, you know, talk about training a little bit. What is your days like? Give us your routines. Yeah. I know you mentioned, you know, you try to run five or six days a week, but you know, what time are you up in the morning? You know, I know you said sleep was a big thing. You know, what did what does your days look like? What does Montavius wear do during the week? So when I'm in like fight camp, when I'm like four weeks out, that's when I start waking up at like six in the morning. Well, I get up at five and then start my workout at six, do my mouse, and then after that I rest a little bit. And if I got clients, I train them. And then in the evening, probably around like two, I do my boxing workout, then I rest, do whatever I gotta do through the day, and then at night, sometimes I do like an explosive strength workout, more like um slam balls, ropes, or sprints and stuff like that. Or I do weight, so a little bit of everything. Yeah. Um, who's your biggest fan? Biggest fan? Yeah. Like what you mean, my biggest fan? Like somebody that's who's your biggest fan, yeah. Who's your biggest fan out there right now? You know, you get in people sliding them DMs, they're always hitting you up trying to After my first dirty boxing match. I had like like over a hundred like messages I'm a new fan now, and stuff like that. But I think my biggest fan is my granny. Granny? There you go. Yeah, yeah, it's gotta be cool. Um, you know, seeing that you're starting to get a little bit of praise now, people are starting to see you because now this is the second time, you know. Again, like I said, you're a co-made event, but you know, you you won. You you went out there and you brought it to you brought the fight to them. You know, even though you didn't you didn't get to finish like you thought you wanted to. But at the end of the day, you know, you did get a little bit bloodied and you're in a little bloody waters. I didn't get bloody bloody. No, but you're saying when I say blah, I'm like, you're in bloody waters. That's when you really define whether or not a champion is really inside the inside that body. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? That's how you really know. When you get whacked, you know, you're a little bit down, you get a little, you know, shocked, and you get popped, and you're like, okay, how you react to me is that's how you choose a champion. And you saw you know, we saw that out of you. You saw you come up and come back and just go right back at it. And to me, that was key. You know what I'm saying? Because it's like, wow, this this guy's got a huge future ahead of him. You know, you get you got a lot more that you can give. What with guy like John Jones, what do you have to say to you after the fight? Well, I didn't really speak to John Jones, but I know he um in the interview he said it was a good fight. He won money off me too. So yeah, he did bet money off me. He won $100 with um one of Tate brothers. So that's right. That's right. Andrew's brother, he bet him. Um, and he lost it in in the in the finals, too. So I think he lost the back with that and all. Um Mike Perry, Mike Perry um loved loved the fight. He said some good things and he always supportive on my um my Instagram stories and and posts. He always liked them and putting messages on it, so he's very supportive. That's great. Um, who's who's somebody that you like right now, current? Who's somebody that you kind of idoly? And boxing or MMA? MMA. MMA? Yeah. Um I like Isriari Sonia. Yeah? Yeah. What about boxing? Boxing, Montavius. Montavious is like on myself. Yeah. You're your own fan, I like that. Hi, I'm Phil Benamino, CEO and founder of Cost Plus Processing, the company that provides financial services to your business. We provide things such as POS systems, ATM machines, and check services. One of the biggest things that we strive ourselves here at Cost Plus Processing is our customer service. We are an A plus rated with the BBB with customer service, and we're proud to say we're here in the United States with all of our customer service agents. Our objections is to actually teach you and educate you about the costs that you're currently paying and show you ways where you can eliminate those costs that you no longer have to pay. One of the biggest programs that are out there today is our dual pricing program, where you actually can offer your customers now a choice of how they want to pay. Do they want to pay with cash or do they want to pay with card? 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I don't play games or anything like that, or watch too much movies. When I get bored, I go to the gym, I run, I box, I protect somebody for sparring. So I live it. What about on the streets, man? Anybody ever try to pick on you or start a fight on the streets with you? Nah. How do you handle that stuff though? I mean, first, like I try to de-escalate it, but then if it keeps going, then I'm ready to fight. But the thing is, now you're a professional fighter. Yeah. Right? So you got liability on you. I mean, if you hit me first. Yeah, of course. So the fact that's what I'm just saying. Like, does you gotta think about these things now? Back in the day, you probably didn't have to worry about it. Yeah. You know, somebody wanted to, you know, you rough you up a little bit, you you're ready to go. But now you gotta think, oh, I'm a professional fighter and this is my livelihood. Yeah. You know, and and do I want to risk breaking my hand over some chump that's trying to, you know, talk some crap, right? I mean, these are things that that people don't realize and and need to learn to do. Um, do they ever teach you these things? Like, is this something once you sign contracts that they tell you the do's and the don'ts? Nah, they don't teach you that. So you don't know any of that. Just like probably money. I mean, I know, I know because it's you know, but like I said, like I try to de-escalate it, but if it keeps pressing an issue, then I gotta defend myself. Yeah, yeah. That's good. Um what's the most toxic trait that you have? I don't know, just loving a fight. I don't I don't feel like I got any toxic traits. Just loving to fight? Yeah. There's something about fighting. Yeah. Why why is that? Like were you fighting as a kid? Yeah, I grew up fighting my whole life in the streets, in school, in school bathrooms, just fighting my big brothers, my cousins. What made you feel like you had to fight? It was just something I love to do. Like how people love to play football, I just love to fight. So it was just something I was just raised around and just grew up doing. No other sports? No. I tried Boston. I mean, I tried football for like two weeks and I quit. Two weeks? Yeah. What happened in two weeks? I was small and I had to wear all the equipment and do hill sprints, and I couldn't do it. You run out of hill sprints now though. I see it. I see you online doing it. I'm bigger now though, so. Oh, okay. Um, talk to us about punching, because punching power is is important, obviously. What's the hardest punch you've ever taken? Hardest punch I ever taken. Yeah. Who'd it come from? Um it was from a guy in Atlanta when I was like part 14. I forgot his name, but like I threw a punch, and when I was an amateur, I used to throw a punch and then like try to walk off to be like slick, and then when I did that little walk-off, he came with like a straight punch and hit me, and then kind of like chipped like a tooth in the back. And that was like one of the hardest punch I had. But other than that, I don't really get hit. So he's like, I don't get hit at all. That's the game. You're not trying to not get hit, but when you do, you know, do you ever feel it? That's the thing. Yeah. What about the biggest punch you've ever given to somebody else? Um, I given a lot of punches, but you ever feel one like this was this was the one? Yeah, one punch was in school. Um it A big guy, and they wanted to see. We had a substitute teacher, so I knew I was I I didn't think I was gonna get in trouble, but um he wanted to see if he could take like a body shot and then I hit him in the body, and then he he passed out. Like he I hit him and then he was like he was good, he put his hand on the desk, and then I know he just dropped and smacked his head on the ground, and like he was like his face was turning green. Yeah, and then like I thought I was good through through the whole day of school, and then like that last that last class, the principal came then and got suspended. You know, you talk about body shots, you also talk about headshots. What what what do you prefer? Like when when you're looking at somebody, are you going to the body or you going to the head? Um body. Body. What hurts more? I feel like the body, yeah. Yeah? It's so funny because people don't realize what a body shot really feels like unless they've actually taken one. You know what I mean? And and that's the funny thing because you know, people are like, well, why aren't everybody's going at the face, they're going at the head, they're going at the head. But the body is there. And if you hit somebody in the freaking liver, they're gonna go down. Yeah, the body's how you set up head shots. Yeah. That's that's good. Well, um, you know, talk about uppercuts versus you know, crosses and jabs and hooks. What what's your most important, you know, strike as a boxer for you? Um the jab is most important because it that's how you control the distance, that's how you set up shots. And that's my favorite punch too. That's how I set up most of my shots. Especially when I when we talk about body, I always throw that jab to the body, throw the jab up top to keep them thinking like which way I'm going, changing levels. But the jab is the most important punch in boxing and in fighting in general. Gotcha. Um, got some quick, rapid questions for you, real quick. Okay. These are rapid questions. Favorite dirty boxing move? Spinning back elbow. Spinning back elbows or uppercuts? Uppercuts. Inside fighting or outside fighting? Inside fighting. Clinch work or hands? Hands. Okay. What separates fighters from regular people? Tougher. Not bad. Not bad. Um, hardest punch you've ever taken? Uh cross. Have you ever been knocked out? No. No? Have you ever been in submission? No. No, neither one? Well, submission in practice, but not in like Okay. Did you go out? Did you go to sleep? I wanted the Finny to chug me out to see what it felt like. See what it felt like? Yeah, and I went out. Did it happen? Yeah, yeah. But it was like it was intentionally. It wasn't like we wrestling again. He called me. Yeah. Yeah. But he would have. Yeah. Definitely probably. He could have. A little bigger than you. Yeah. It'll just call it what it is. A little bigger than you. I would have got out though, so. Um one thing you still need to improve on. Um interviews and boxing. Okay. Interviews is good, but you're doing all that, man. Look at you, man. That's how I get nervous, though. Yeah. It's okay. Uh, it happens. Yeah. You know, but the reality is, you know, when you get the lights on you and, you know, people are talking, you got a great smile, man. You gotta you get the million dollar smile and just be yourself. You know, you just gotta sit back and relax and enjoy, you know, the the part of it all. Let's talk about let's talk about this for a second. You know, obviously, boxing, there's a lot of skill to boxing. Yeah. You know, people don't realize the skill that actually goes with it. Um, you know, what what got you involved in boxing? Like, why why boxing? Because boxing is very tech technical. Yeah. Like there's a lot of technique in it. You know what I mean? And obviously you got fast hands, you're super fast and skilled with it, but it's not for everybody. So when you're standing in a ring, you know, as a boxer, you know, you're looking at somebody, you're the person's over you. Like, what are you looking for? Like, what what what is the first thing that's on your mind that you that you that you're looking for? Yeah, first I look at their stance because which whichever stance they're in, that's what openings they have. And then I just look at the movement and how they how they approach them. If they're gonna be aggressive, if they're gonna be more calm and try to box. That so that first round really tells me what I need to do. What about like their hands? Yeah. Is that important to you? If they pee, you know, Floyd will put his hands down. Yeah. Mike Tyson was always up tight, you know what I'm saying? Like, what what's what's the difference between the two? Obviously that they're both were very successful. Yeah. You know what I mean? But uh does it matter where your hands are? Um, I feel like it depends on like the range you're in. Like if you're real close, you should want to have your hands higher. But if you're more farther back, like in a in a jab range, then you can do your slick moves, have your hands down, do it the filly shell, things like that. But you also want to have it like up tight when you're close. The thing is with dirty boxing, you gotta be careful with that because you got the spinning back kicks. Yeah. With back elbows and all different things that can happen. Now there's no kicking though. There's no kicking in dirty boxing, right? So but if somebody's down on their knees, you can still boom, you can still well on them. Is that correct? That's how that goes? Yeah, um, but if you grab their leg, you can get back up. So that's why I grabbed his leg in a fight, and then he he was being dirty and he's gonna bump me. Yeah, but it's all right. That was smart. Yeah. That was smart, though. Smart on both of you. Now he bumped me for because he couldn't really hit me. So he's just frustrated. Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying. That was so smart, but you know, he was frustrated because of what you did. Yeah, you know, type of thing. Um, you know, if you had a choice to box or dirty box, what would be the one you would want to do? Um, box. Yeah. You feel like that's where your skills, you know, lie? Yeah, definitely, definitely. Because I've been boxing my whole life, and boxing is what people know me, know me from. So and they want to see me be on the big stages. Yeah. So boxing's definitely the one. What is your dream? I know you said you want to win at the WMB. You want the green belt, but seriously, where do you see yourself going with all this journey? I mean, obviously you're starting to make a name for yourself now. 30 Boxes is giving you that opportunity. You've got a few wins. I'm pretty sure that you know you're gonna get a few more, you know, out there. But you know, is there somebody that you want to fight? No, I'll fight anybody who they give me. Like I don't want to turn I don't turn down no fights. So whoever they give me, I'm gonna be ready and I'm gonna prepare for that person. You ever get scared or nervous, man? I mean, I feel like everybody gets nervous, but then when you know it's getting closer and closer, you just lock in and it's just it's time for war. So what is that gut feeling when you're getting wrapped and you're getting close to, you know, you know, you're you know within the next hour you're going out there. You know, what what goes into your mind and do you have any music you're listening to? What's your playlist? My playlist, I listen to rap, I listen to Afro beats. I normally play a lot of Afro beats when I'm in a in a dress room because it gives me like the groove and and give me in that mode to really show out. So, but but yeah, that's that's it. Obviously, you know you're fighter. Do you watch all fights? Like do you watch MMA, you watch UFC, do you watch fights stuff come back? I only watch the big cars. I don't watch you watch Sean Strickland the other night? Yeah, yeah. What do you think of that card? I think Sean Strickland sucks. Really? Can you take him? I'll knock him out. Knock him out. If you want to put on Boston Gloves, I'd love to spar Sean Strickland. Really? He would spar you. I think we could probably make that happen. Let's make it happen. I think we can totally make that happen. Yeah. We could totally we could probably totally do that. We have to get Finney involved a little bit, you know, because he's done too sparring with them. Yeah. I love it. Or Illi Chapoia. I love to spar Illy Chapo. Yeah. You think you think you're gonna hang with them? No, they're 185. They hang with me. They're they're bigger. I mean, they're one, they fight at 185, but they're probably two 205 by the time they fight. And sparring, we spar any any size. Any size. So it don't matter. Yeah, did you see uh what was it? Van did you see van? Yeah, his fight? What would you think of him? He's more of your weight, he's more of your size. No, he fight at like 120, 135. He's like he's like, I'll spar him too. I want to spar everybody. I want to spar all the boxers, all the MMA guys. There you go. He's calling you out, man. He said, You need a sparring partner. Here it is. You know, so most people pay for sparring partners. You'll do it for free. I'll do it for free. Look at that. Just that depends on who you is. If you got money, then I need some money. You do the challenge. No, not just money. Yeah. Nah, they can watch Spark, then you're gonna try to hurt them. You know, they gotta be they they supposed to be the they supposed to be the top guy, so they don't gotta worry about that. Right. They supposed to be thinking they can beat me. What about MMA, man? Is that a different game? Would you ever go in the cross going to that? Of course. You would? I'd do anything. Yeah, UFC stuff? Yes. How do you feel? But you do you do any jujitsu or anything? You got a black belt? I don't got a belt, but I do a little jujitsu and wrestling and stuff like that. But that doesn't that doesn't bother you at all? Somebody can just smother you up and grackle you? Nah, that's why you train it. Yeah? Yeah. But wrestling's different though, man. Being on the mat's different than being on your feet. Like you're great on your feet. Don't get me wrong. I seen your feet. I see you how you move. But somebody, you know, somebody gets you down and they're a wrestler, it's a different game on the ground. Yeah. You know? So what makes you so confident on that? Because I've been doing it since 2020. Yeah. But if you fought anybody like MMA style? Yeah, I train, I'd be training MMA. So you're training MMA. Yeah. I mean training MMA. My first time going into an MMA gym. I started, I started before Finney. Like Finney came to the MMA gym like two weeks later, and I was already in there. That's where I met Finney at. Yeah. In 2020, 2021. Right. Yeah. What do you about what do you think about all these other cards that are coming out there now? You got, you know, Jake Paul out there. He's, you know, they have, you know, some some different events that they're doing. In fact, they just uh Ronda Rousey's getting ready to uh to fight here. Um, you know, what what about something like that? How do you feel about being on cards like that? Is it just a show card or is it a real is it is it real some real fighters? Yeah, they're real fighters. Yeah. I don't really get into those type of fights, but I like the the prime guys and they prime now. Yeah. What about Jake Paul? I know I know you spark him. You said you said you spore him too, but I think he's too big for you, man. Nah, he's probably too big for you. No, not too big for me. I'm I'm his size, probably. You know, I'm just old. Yeah. That's the difference. You're what, 24 now? Um yeah, 24. So you're young, man. You're just getting started. Yeah. That's that's good. That's good. I was actually in um in Miami training with his coach. Oh, yeah? Yeah. How'd that go? It went good. His name is Milton, um Milton, I believe. And um, they flew me back out. I sparred. So me and my friend Connor, who was out there for vacation after the fight, and then he seen us training and sparring and stuff. So when I went home, he texted me and said, Hey, I want you to come back down here and spar in front of Eric B. So they paid for my trip, and like the next day, they flew me back down. I sparred in front of him. They liked me and we got some stuff in the works. Oh yeah. Nice. So you probably got a lot a lot of people doing that now. It's you know, not even making a name for yourself. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. Now, what happens, you know, you got you got management, you got a manager now? Not yet. Not yet. So you're still private. You hear that? Yeah. You're still private, you're still still looking. You looking for a bag or what? Yeah, definitely. What's it gonna take for somebody to come in and actually say, listen, man, I'm I wanna I wanna be your manager. Like what what what are you looking for? Um someone to get me out of Chattanooga. Just out of Chattanooga, that's it. Out of Chattanooga, put me on a a um a monthly pay. Yeah, build me up, give me good fights, and get me on a big scene in less than a year. There's so many promoters out there, there's gotta be somebody for that for sure. Yeah, but you just gotta be smart with who you pick. Yes. And and read the contracts. Read the contracts for sure. Definitely. Legal, legal is important, it's real. But are you worried about that? You know, so many boxers that you've heard that made tons of money and are broke today, you know, because they weren't smart about it, or you know, the promoters or people stole it from them. Yeah. The old Don King days that they say, you know. Yeah. I'm not worried about it. I just use their mistakes as examples and and don't follow their footsteps. Right. Like Adrian Brunner and stuff like that. Yeah. All right, Monte Bis. Before we go, I gotta ask you a couple quick questions. What version of yourself are you most proud of? Um, the version I'm in right now. What's one moment in life that changed your mentality? Um the moment in life that changed my mentality when I first stepped in a boxing ring and just sparring a guy that's got world title world amateur championships and just getting beat by those guys. And eventually as I kept training and kept getting better, I was able to beat those guys that beat me when I was young. What did that make you feel like? It made me feel good because I I stuck to something that that was hard and I kept pushing and kept training and I didn't give up. Montavius, ten years from now. We're back here sitting down on Wambands podcast. What do you envision? What do what are we talking about? Ten years from now, I'll be a world champion. I have a belt in dirty boxing, I have a belt in regular boxing, and I'll just be the guy that everybody looks up to. Anything you want to say to the viewers, man? Follow me on Instagram at Montavius underscoreware, and you can see all my previous fights and my fights is coming soon. So stay tuned. Well, there you have it, folks. You heard it from himself, Matavius Ware. Make sure you go follow this guy, okay? This guy is out there. He's going to be a champion. He's destined. I can just tell you just from his work ethics alone. And as your boy Wham Bam always says, remember, if your life was a movie, would it be worth watching? And if the answer is no, stop being ordinary and start being extraordinary. Until next Wednesday, baby. Stay positive. Thank you, Testament.