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2026 Bowtech Ascend: Breaking the Price Barrier

• Zakk Plocica • Season 1 • Episode 25

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Bowtech has redefined the mid-price bow market with their groundbreaking 2026 Ascend, the first major release of the upcoming model year that delivers true flagship features at just $899.

As archery equipment prices continue to climb, many bowhunters feel increasingly priced out of quality gear. The Ascend directly addresses this challenge by incorporating Bowtech's revolutionary Deadlock technology—now in a streamlined "Deadlock Light" configuration—allowing users to tune their bow without a press by simply adjusting set screws on the limbs. This premium feature alone makes the Ascend stand apart from every other mid-priced option on the market.

With impressive specs including a 31-inch axle-to-axle length, 6.5-inch brace height, and blazing 340 FPS IBO speed rating, the Ascend performs like bows costing hundreds more. The fully machined aluminum construction (no polymer limb pockets here), Picatinny sight mounting system, and compatibility with integrated rests further blur the line between mid-priced and flagship models. Even the shooting experience stands out, with excellent stability, minimal hand shock, and Bowtech's popular flip disc technology that lets archers choose between "Performance" (80% let-off) or "Comfort" (85% let-off) configurations.

Whether you're upgrading from an entry-level bow or can't justify spending $1,300+ on a flagship model, the Bowtech Ascend delivers unprecedented value without compromising on features or performance. Available as a bare bow ($899) or in a fully accessorized DLX package ($1,299), the Ascend signals a potential shift in what archers should expect from mid-priced equipment. Head to your local Bowtech dealer to experience firsthand how this revolutionary bow is making premium archery technology more accessible than ever.

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Zakk Plocica:

All right. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another episode of the Archery Project. I am your host, zach Placica, and today I've got Mr JR Gettler back in the house and we're discussing new bows already. Welcome, jr, how are you?

JR Gettler:

Good thanks for having me on.

Zakk Plocica:

Of course, a wealth of knowledge. So you are by far the best person to talk technical stuff when it comes to bows, and you know, the big thing right now is everybody feels priced out right, so these bows are so expensive I get it.

Zakk Plocica:

But you don't have to spend flagship money to get in this game right but technically or typically to get the features you got to get the flagship bows yes, most of the times that's kind of the the common theme, and every year it seems like prices of bows have been going up exponentially.

JR Gettler:

So we have a new one coming out yeah, for 2026.

Zakk Plocica:

I know it's, you know, early, um, but this is the first bow drop of any of the manufacturers for 2026 and bow tech dropped the ascend. So this is a mid price point bow that is feature rich and and when we talk feature rich, it has all the same features and capabilities of a flagship bow At a price point level. At a price point level which is impressive. Right Again, you know everybody's like dude, these bows are so expensive and they are right. But you know people often fail to realize that you don't have to spend that amount of money to get in the game. I mean a lot of your mid-price point bows that have come out, even some of your entry-level bows, are just capable pieces of equipment.

Zakk Plocica:

So the fact that people feel priced out, it's not necessarily true, right? John Winker said it really, really good from first flight. He's like you're not priced out man, you can't justify that price for that bow and I get that. That's like me, I'm. I. I'm not a Lamborghini guy, I'm priced out. I can't get there, but I can still get a car and I can still get from point A to point B efficiently, and you can do that with compound bows.

JR Gettler:

Right, yeah, I mean you can go out, buy the cheapest bear on the market. You can still go out there and kill a deer. Or you can go out there and buy the high-end Hoyt Matthews, bowtech, prime, whatever, and you can still do the exact same thing with it. I mean, yes, obviously there are going to be nicer features on those higher-end bows, better quality stuff like that, but you can still get the job done on a cheaper bow.

Zakk Plocica:

Right, and we've said it in previous episodes before. I mean, we had customers that have gone and killed caribou with diamond, like Edge 320s or Edge Maxes, whatever it was, and consistently kill stuff. So it's not necessarily the platform, it's the individual behind the bow. But you know, having all those features and those capabilities and tuning capabilities within a bow does make it nice in my opinion, you know.

JR Gettler:

Right.

Zakk Plocica:

And Bowtech has got that.

JR Gettler:

Yeah, and they've had the capability for the last over 10 years, if not longer, like especially with their flip disc technology. It's been a great system to be able to get a little bit more performance out of that bow, if you want it.

Zakk Plocica:

Right, and so Bowtech does a really good job when it comes to features, in my opinion. I think they have some of my favorite features out of any of the manufacturers that are on the market, and the number one feature being that deadlock technology right in order to shim or move that cam without a press. It's just an incredible piece of technology that makes tuning. I mean it's a breeze, bro.

JR Gettler:

It doesn't get any easier. You don't have to press it, it's a matter of unlocking a set screw. You move that allen key left or right, depending on your tear, and you know. Obviously you do it top and bottom and it's super simple to be able to tune a bow yeah, absolutely so.

Zakk Plocica:

Bow tech, I think, is known for innovation, right and just a feature-rich product, um, and you know, again, a very reliable product. They've had some really, really good bows, flagship bows, especially over the last few years, and now they've entered that mid price point option and they're the first to do it that I can think of that has flagship bows at this mid price point Mad, flagship features at a mid price point.

JR Gettler:

I mean, I guess technically, elite would kind of be there with their tuning technology that's in their limb pocket. But I mean, that's a little bit different of a system. I mean still, same concept does not require a press to be able to tune that. So, um, yeah, it's still. I think bow tech is one of the first to do it, by far, yeah so.

Zakk Plocica:

So let's look at the specs of this new bow right? So we've got it's called the ascend and this is for the bow hunter, right? It's a 31 inch um axle to axle bow, axle bow. So in my opinion, it really hits that sweet spot for a lot of bow hunters, right, especially if you're anywhere from. You know, 25 to 30 inches, it really covers a large majority of people who are looking to bow hunt. It's got draw length options from 24 and a half inches to 30 inches We've got. It's a little unique it's got two draw weight options. Yes, so it's got a 45 to 60 pound option, and then you've got a 55 to 70 pound option. So you get 15 pounds of adjustment between the two, right, which is kind of cool.

JR Gettler:

Yeah, so that way, if you know you're just getting into archery and you don't want to go 70 pounds, you can go all the way down to 55. So that is a nice comfortable area, I think it's. It's not going to be be making such a big adjustment where it's going to affect the performance of the boat that much right.

Zakk Plocica:

And then you look at this bow. Typically your mid price point bows don't really put out the speed I mean they might claim to to put out the speed, um, or the ibo ratings that are on there. They're typically a little bit slower bows. This thing is smoking fast, yeah, and it's got an ibo rating of 340 feet per second yeah, the first time I shot it I was impressed.

JR Gettler:

I I thought it was on performance. So it is a little bit confusing. Now we're getting a little off topic here, but it's a little confusing with their performance disc or their flip disc how you have to move it. You have to actually flip it from the top to bottom. You're going to flip your mods instead of actually just rotating the mod um 180 degrees. So it is a little bit different with that system. But I mean, the first time I shot it I thought it was on performance and I'm like damn, it was getting really fast.

Zakk Plocica:

I'm like holy crap, we got an awesome bow right here and it does dude it, it cruises man um, which again, another feature that they have. They carried over their flip disc technology to the mid price point bow. So you've got different let off options. You, you've got an an 80% let off, which is they call their performance, and then you've got an 85% let off, which is comfort. It's got a brace height of six and a half inches, so technically it should be a pretty forgiving bow as far as shootability goes, a good, decent ATA length, good brace height and for what it is, it's fairly light too for a mid price point bow, typically your mid price point bows, they're skimp somewhere, right? Whether it's materials, it's features, it's something.

Zakk Plocica:

This bow comes in at 4.2 pounds overall weight bear, so again, a very light option for a lot of people. I mean, it's comparable to your flagship overall weight, right? So again, just loaded. And the great thing about this is bare bow. It's $899. Right, fantastic, right, you've got a sub $900 bow that has all of your flagship features and I think that's what the market has been asking for. You look at people and everyone's like back in you know, 1986, I got a bow for you know $200 and it's just as good and I can assure you it's not, um, because these bows they do evolve, whether you want to think so or not. But I think that between eight and nine hundred dollars is realistic for a lot of people who are serious about archery right. And and this is in there and you get all the features and amenities that you could ever want with it.

Zakk Plocica:

So, going over features they've got, they've introduced what's called the deadlock light technology. So it's a little bit different than their standard deadlock technology that they had. Right, it was all adjusted. It had one set screw originally on the right side of the bow, on the right limb. For a right-handed bow you would unlock that one set screw and then you make your adjustments with an Allen key. The difference in the new one is it's you have a set screw on each limb Right. It's a little bit different, it's a little bit more low profile, but we tested it and it works equally as good. I mean, it works fantastic. It's the same concept. It works just as well. It makes tuning the bow an absolute breeze. It's by far my favorite feature, I think, out of any of the bows on the line. And now the fact that you get it at that price point is. I mean it's, I don't know, a bow, that's all. The bows haven't dropped yet for 2026. But as far as mid-price point bow, that's going to be hard to touch.

JR Gettler:

It is. So, yes, adding on to the deadlock light system, I was told by our rep that it requires half the adjustment needed. So if you would have had to do a half turn on the original deadlock, this should only require like a quarter turn. So it should make tuning that much easier. I wonder why that is. Um, I don't know if it's just something with the new system in there, that it's just a more finer system. So I'm not sure.

Zakk Plocica:

Um, I have not tested that yet because it is so new I, I went through and I tuned one because you know I I shot a video on it. I did a bow review on it. So if you're interested in seeing like the bow perform, head over to Extreme Outfitters YouTube channel. There's a. There's a video on it where I go through and shoot it on comfort and performance and whatnot and I tune it and it tunes. I mean really, really well. The um, the system works fantastic. Again, it's just super easy, easy. My favorite thing about it is it doesn't require press and we notice a lot of people who are really getting into archery, that the more involved they are, the more people that are trying to do things themselves and these bow manufacturers are allowing that right and at a mid price point. Bow, you can do that now on your own. You can tune this thing shimmy the cam. You still need a press to adjust timing on it, but that left and right tear, I mean it's a breeze right.

JR Gettler:

Um, the only thing maybe I could think of is now it is a five-piece string set. So maybe that's what it is, because you're having more consistent load on those axles, so you're not going to have, you know, your one control cable is not going to be putting more pressure on on your shelf, your shelf side, compared to that five-piece system. So maybe that's what's attributing to that new technology being able to tune easier exactly why you're here, jr, because you looked at that.

Zakk Plocica:

I didn't even consider that. That's a very, very good observation, my friend. Yeah, that makes sense and, like I said, it's a breeze. But back to the features on this bow again, it's not, you don't just get that. So bow tech is also. You notice, on mid, your most, your mid price point bows, the limb pockets are like a polymer composite material.

JR Gettler:

This is metal right, everything on this bow has been machined. It's a billet aluminum. I don't know what aluminum it's made out of, but it is billet aluminum that is machined. So I mean, even right there, that's going to increase cost on a bow, generally speaking. So they have found a way to actually cut that cost down, which is awesome, yep also on this bow.

Zakk Plocica:

As you guys are aware, the last couple years they had their center mass technology right, so they had initially the site ran through the center of the riser with their center mass. Then they moved it to the inside of the riser. They do not have that on this bow. They have, in my opinion, something superior. I which I really like, is the Picatinny mounted sight option, so you can take and it gives you more options right, the center mass was limiting for a lot of people, because there's a lot of people that don't just shoot Botex and you know if they're going from. You know whatever bow they're shooting Matthews or Hoyt bow or prime bow, something that was using pick mounted. They can now just carry that over. They don't got to buy a new site. You can still run your, your standard direct mount or the pick mount, which to me is awesome. I think it's a uh, an incredible change and I think most people are going to enjoy that or appreciate that more.

JR Gettler:

Yes and um. I've noticed a lot of companies are starting to go that way. So almost every manufacturer has a pick mounted site option, except for Matthews, exactly. So your options are there.

Zakk Plocica:

You're unlimited, you're no longer stuck to. If you go center mass where you've got to just run, that say, with a bow text, you can carry your sight over from whatever bow you're shooting and integrate it into this actual bow. So to me it just makes sense.

JR Gettler:

Another nice feature that I noticed that they did is it is now on a fixed roller guard instead of their flex guard system. I know you can do a little bit more tuning with the flex guard and it can be a better system to use sometimes, but I've noticed, or I've been hearing, a lot more people saying that they like the fixed roller guard because it's putting a more consistent load onto the cables okay, there you go.

Zakk Plocica:

I mean so clearly, this is a well thought out system. Um, and moving down further on the bow, is this bow mid price point bow also has the integration option for your rest, right, so you can run everything high dollar that runs and integrates perfectly into this bow, this riser. They've just thought it through completely. I mean they. I don't think they missed on this, and I think it's really going to. Um, there's a lot of people that are going to be. This is going to be a really great option for them. My biggest fear with this, though, is it degrades or it takes away from their flagship stuff because it is such a feature-rich, loaded bow.

JR Gettler:

Right, yeah, you can go out and you can buy whatever their newest bow is going to be, which I mean I would assume it's going to be $1,300 plus for the bow, just assuming or you can get this for $899. So I feel like it's definitely going to be drawing a lot more people into going for a cheaper option.

Zakk Plocica:

Right, but I think it's needed though, because you look at the price of everything, right, there's a lot of people that I mean they just can't justify it. But they want those features, man, but they just they're like, they're like it's just not justifiable yet it's. I can't, I can't justify investing that amount of money and I get it, and you know, you always had those mid price. I think open the doors for a lot of people to just end up with a quality product that they can do a little bit tinkering with themselves, right, right. So it's going to be good, man, I'm super excited for it. I anticipate it doing very, very well this year, which makes me really very curious to see what they're going to release flagship wise, because I can only imagine flagship is going to be stellar from them.

JR Gettler:

It always is. I mean, I've always said that bow techs are one of my favorite shooting bows on the market. They are very smooth, very comfortable. I mean we've already said it a million times it's so easy to tune them. You can do it all on your own, especially if you don't learn how to do it. So super easy to tune. It's just all in all, they're great shooting bows. They just don't get the clout that they deserve.

Zakk Plocica:

I agree, I think I don't know whether it has to do with marketing, maybe it's we're on the East Coast, we don't see it as much, but they're just. You don't hear about them as much, but I think it's again, it's a machine. I mean, especially when you go their flag route stuff. I mean grip lock technology, deadlock technology, time lock technology everything that Bowtech offers is just. I mean it's superb and it makes people who really want that perfect system and really be able to fine tune their bow. It just allows that. I mean I think they have some of the best tuning capability on on the market yep hands down hands down agreed.

Zakk Plocica:

So let's talk a little bit. You know, those are the features, those are the specs of the bow, the shootability. We both shot it. Or let's cover the grip too. I mean, I've always been a fan of the the bow tech grip. It is a nice low profile, flat back grip that you can index and repeat. I've always liked the Bowtech grips.

JR Gettler:

I normally do as well and I actually really enjoy this grip a lot. It feels like a blend of PSE's grip that they've had on their bow and almost like the Hoyt. It's almost like a blend between those two and I actually like how it's like a more rubbery material so I can actually index it very repeatable every time that's a big thing.

Zakk Plocica:

It's very, very repeatable and whenever you shoot the bow, so we'll get into the shooting side. Now, shooting the bow, and you look up at it, I don't induce any hand torque in it, which I was a little worried about. With that bow, typically your your mid price point bows, I notice you know, there it's a little bit easier to torque the bow for whatever reason, whether it's the riser design, the brace height, whatever it is the pockets, how wide they are, that can influence everything as well.

JR Gettler:

Um, so, to add to that, I did notice when I was shooting it I did have some torque so I did not, okay, so that's two different perspectives um, I haven't tried it through paper anything, so I'm not sure how that is, but just my, my general grip. I was looking up and I did see that there was a little bit of torque, which I mean it wasn't terrible. So I mean I'd have to shoot through paper and see what it does, but otherwise I'm not too concerned about it, to be honest.

Zakk Plocica:

Yeah, and me and you are always opposite, right. So whenever we shoot a bow, we shoot the same bow at the same draw length. I get a left tear. You always get a right tear. So clearly, we both index the bows or grip the bows slightly different, or our release hand, the way the shot breaks, is a little bit different. So that is good to know. I didn't have any hand torque issues. You did a little bit, so something to be cautious. So that's why we always encourage people to go and shoot and test the bows for themselves.

JR Gettler:

Um, but it wasn't anything drastic no, it wasn't bad at all and and that I just added I induced a little bit of torque and I got it straight. But, like I said, I would just have to shoot it through paper and see what I actually get interesting.

Zakk Plocica:

So back to the shooting side of things. Um, the bow shoots really really well, but you do have two options for this thing. You've got comfort and performance and a little bit of back history I've had, I've owned a handful of bow tags. Two of my favorite that I ever had were the realm SS and the solution SS. They were shorter, 30 inch bows that I think the realm was a was a 30, it was a 30 or 31.

Zakk Plocica:

Yeah, so, regardless they were 30 or 30 inch bows that I think the realm was a was a 30, it was a 30 or 31. Yeah, so, regardless they were 30 or 30 inch bows and I shot both of those on performance right and I really enjoyed them. I thought the draw cycle was good and typically you get about you gain on a Bowtech bow. Going from comfort to performance, you gain almost 10 feet per second. As far as overall speed, which is for some people is really important, especially those shorter draw lengths. The longer draw lengths not really as important so you can get away with a little bit smoother drawing um, but this bow comfort, phenomenal performance. The draw cycle is good, is fantastic, but there the valley is so short, is so unforgiving that I would not, as a bow hunter, shoot it on performance yeah, um, I have to agree with you there.

JR Gettler:

Normally I don't mind bow text bows on performance, I can get away with it. Um, the sr, or the the core sr, was a little bit more drastic, especially with the dump that I had, but I noticed that this is very smooth almost the entire way through. There's a slight bit of dump at the end. It's not bad, but yes, however, if you're not holding on to that back wall, it is gonna go on you. So, yes, you have to be very conscious of your form.

Zakk Plocica:

Shooting that thing on performance yeah, you have got to stay, you can't. There is no relaxing on this boat whatsoever.

JR Gettler:

You better be holding that thing for dear life.

Zakk Plocica:

Yes, but you gain almost. For me when I shot it I gained like nine feet per second, 10 feet per second. When I shot a, I did a comparison right. I did comfort versus performance on 29 inches and it went from 294 with a 418 grain arrow. I think is what I set it up for an Easton 5.0.

JR Gettler:

I have to go back and reference it.

Zakk Plocica:

I do believe that's. It was that. So I shot it at 29 inches, 70 pounds. It was like 69.5 pounds at 29 inches. On comfort, with a 418 grain arrow, I think. I averaged 294, 295 feet per second um. And then I flipped it and put it on performance and I got right at I got 304, 305 with that. But I said it was the most unforgiving valley. The draw cycle's good on both. There's no massive build, no hump, no dump. It rolls over into the back wall very nicely, but that's just it. Once it's there, you have to hold on to it, even on comfort, because you thought comfort was performance initially, that's how I thought it was coming out of the box.

JR Gettler:

I'm like, oh, that's how I thought it was coming out of the box. I'm like, oh, that's that's awesome. Yeah, I love it. Yeah, way wrong. Yeah, way wrong, man it was.

Zakk Plocica:

Um, even on comfort, like I said, the draw cycle is great. It is a little stiff, but you get the speed out of the bow. But even on comfort, the valley is just not very forgiving. You still need to hold on to that boat, which isn't bad right, I mean honestly. Typically holding a little bit more weight or keep staying on that back wall a little bit harder makes people shoot a little bit better.

JR Gettler:

It typically does, but I think this is this was drastic enough. Where I noticed I was, I was almost shaking, having to hold on back, so it would take quite a bit of time for me to get used to that if I were to keep it on performance yeah.

Zakk Plocica:

I think probably 90% of people, based off the speeds that it's put it out and the specs are going to shoot it on comfort it just feels much better again. The valley still is a little bit um, shallower, not quite as forgiving as some of the bows, but it's, but it shoots and feels really it's very manageable and feels to me, feels really good yeah, um, so the one that I shot this is actually when I came in for the shop.

JR Gettler:

Um, on comfort, it was actually great. And on, yeah, on comfort, it was great. I could actually relax a little bit. I didn't have to worry about it letting go or dumping on me, um, or wanting to roll away, uh, but yes, on, on performance, it is stout that's the best way to say, and it's not stout in the draw cycle.

Zakk Plocica:

It's stout as in the fact that the to say it, and it's not stout in the draw cycle. It's stout as in the fact that the you're. It feels like you're holding a lot of weight, and you know the good thing about it, though even on comfort and performance, it's very easy to let down.

JR Gettler:

It is yes.

Zakk Plocica:

You don't got to push it down or force it down.

JR Gettler:

It's very, very easy to let down but make sure you hold onto that bad boy. Yes, and I was getting great speeds off of two, so I put it at 30 inches um, with a 443 grain arrow it is pulling a little bit hotter. It was 70, almost 73 pounds. I was getting 299 on comfort performance. I didn't see that big of a change. I got three, 304. So I'm only about five feet and change.

Zakk Plocica:

But I mean I only shot a few times yeah, I mean, so you still gain, you know, it was about five feet, yeah which is good, right, especially for it's more important, I think, for or the shorter draw lengths is where it's, I think I think most guys are are really focused on that. Your guys that are 30 plus your majority of your bows are getting good speeds, so they're not quite as focused on you know. I need to put it on and make that that draw cycle that much more aggressive to gain five to ten feet per second. It's not worth it, right, and I would say on this bow as a whole, even at you know, the little bit shorter draw lengths, it's not worth going to performance, in my opinion. The bow puts up really good speeds on comfort. It's enjoyable. Um, that draw cycle in that valley being that short, just is not worth it as a bow hunter, in my opinion right, I agree agree.

Zakk Plocica:

So what about? As far as you know, a lot of your entry level or mid price point bows, the post shot feel typically isn't great. Right, it's usually there's a, you can feel it, it's a tuning fork or there's just a lot of vibration, there's a lot of feedback and it's hard to kill that. How'd you feel about this bow?

JR Gettler:

it was awesome. It was super dead right out of the gate. Um didn't notice any crazy hand shock, any vibration. It was super dead right right to begin with.

Zakk Plocica:

So don't have to worry about that at all yeah, I agree I was very impressed with the overall feel of it. Um, post shot feel was great, which I was hesitant on. I I mean looking at the features and stuff. It should be right, because I mean it's loaded with everything. I mean the riser design, the limb pockets, everything. But I was like, oh man, where's the, where's the? The drawback, where's the the the bad part of this feel or look of the bow? And there really wasn't any. I mean, it post shot feel was fantastic. It's quiet, yeah, especially it's very quiet for what it is and there is like not a lot of feedback in it.

JR Gettler:

It shoots and feels and performs really, really well yeah, that one that's back there, it's, it's dead, like it was super dead did you shoot it?

Zakk Plocica:

loaded with bars and everything on it just barebow, just barebow which yeah, and then you think about you add any accessories to it.

JR Gettler:

It's going to take any kind of feedback or vibration out of that bow even further yeah, like I didn't feel like the bow wanted to torque or move any way left or right. I mean it was just dead, almost like a matthews how matthews known for being so dead, it's just like that in my opinion doesn't want to jump out of your hand.

JR Gettler:

No, yeah, agreed, I was super impressed with it. And one thing I really love love is, you know, aesthetically pleasing. There's a new color for this bow too. They're calling it stealth gray. It looks more of a brownish gray maybe to me Like a bronzish, grayish, brown color, but I love it. I really do love the color.

Zakk Plocica:

I do too. It's clean looking.

JR Gettler:

It is.

Zakk Plocica:

It's unique. It's different than any of the colors that we've seen, because you always see green and brown every year. Right, that's, that's or tan or a tan color there's. It's a variation of that. This is different. It's a little darker. It's got a bronzes brown, brownish gray color which I think looks super clean especially here in eastern north carolina.

JR Gettler:

That's going to look great up in a tree. Yes, you'll be able to see it that great I agree.

Zakk Plocica:

So you know, one of the things you think about with shorter bows is like accuracy side of things, like how accurate is the bow going to be, and I did a little bit of that. I did some testing with it and I shot it a little bit just to get a feel right. I did, you know, I did some grouping testing out to 30 yards and it's definitely it's a new bow, right. Anytime you shoot a new bow it has a different feel. I don't care if you go from a Hoyt bow to a Matthews flagship bow if you're not used to shooting that bow. It takes a little bit of time to adjust to it, get used to the grip, the overall feel of the bow in order to become accurate with it, Especially your average Joe shooter.

Zakk Plocica:

Right, it's going to take time to adapt and I think that's the same thing with this bow. But I think the capability that it offers is there. I shot it at 30 yards. The groups were not bad at all. It just performed really, really well and I was very impressed with it overall, from the feature side of things to the specs of the bow, to how it looks, to the shot. I mean it just it performs well.

JR Gettler:

I think it's going to really be a shocker for a lot of people this this year yeah, I mean, just by looking at it on paper, you would imagine this would be a flagship 1200 bow. It's 899 and you're getting an awesome bow. So I think, yes, I, I can't agree more.

Zakk Plocica:

It's going to be a killer bow for 2026 yeah, I think for the most part you can get it in a package option and you can get a bare bow. For us we're probably going to carry a bare bow. It just makes more sense because of what it offers. Most guys are going to want to build it out, but they do have a package option which takes the price to $12.99. So it's called their DLX package. You get like a.

Zakk Plocica:

I think they're changing it. I'm not 100%. I got the bow before everything was finalized and we had a little bit of time to look at it and shoot it and mess with it. But I think it's going to come with a, an integrated Picatinny mounted site, one of the black gold sites. It's going to come with a tight spot, five arrow quiver it's. I believe it's going to come with an integrated rip cord IMS system. Rest, don't quote me on it. That's what my impressions were, what I, whenever we spoke about it. Regardless, it's going to come with those brands products. And then it's going to come with the Botech center mass stabilizer, a six inch one. So the stabilizers that Botech has to me are some of my favorite.

JR Gettler:

They are. Yeah, I really enjoy them. They're awesome stabilizers. They have that little dampener at the very end of the stabilizer which actually I think works really well for the bow or, um, for any bow, um. So, yes, I'm actually very, very impressed with their stuff that they put out.

Zakk Plocica:

Yeah, so if you want to get it in the package option, you can, which really for a lot of people like if they're like, hey, I want to I don't want the anxieties of buying and have to pick out my, my accessories, because I'm pretty new to this it's a great option, right, and it's still. I mean, you end up getting a full bow build now for a typical flagship price, right, with that 1299, that's a typical just barebow flagship bow, right, but you get a mid price point that's what they're calling it bow which, with all the features and loaded with your accessories, for $1299. So it really is a good value.

JR Gettler:

Yeah, 100%.

Zakk Plocica:

And you know the quality accessories that you get are there right Tied spot, black gold ripcord. I mean it's a good buy, but, like I said, with the amount of features that it offers, though, I think most guys are going to want to build it out themselves.

JR Gettler:

I agree of features that it offers, though I think most guys are going to want to build it out themselves. I agree, and, um, I wouldn't be surprised if we see some people going from flagship bows down to this one if they're looking to upgrade you know an older hoyt matthews or something that this would be a great option and then you could just transfer all your stuff over yeah, you're, you're, you're not wrong man.

Zakk Plocica:

I think we, we probably will. And I'm curious you know right now mid-price point bow, even come close to it. Is there anything?

JR Gettler:

It would be probably the Torex Prime has their Ronin. The Ronin Bowtech did have the Liberty. That was like their more almost mid-price point bow a couple of years ago, but that one was still like right at $1,000 or $1,100 for that one. So and that didn't have the deadlock, it didn't have any integrate stuff like that. So this is botex doing something great yeah, I think it's.

Zakk Plocica:

It's really going to lead the way, um, and I think the mid price point options are going to become more popular based off of this, because you know, yeah, there are some out there there, but they still don't offer the same features that this does. I mean aluminum or, yeah, aluminum limb pockets. The tuning capability is the biggest thing for me. I mean the fact that you can now, because not long ago you couldn't even shim a bow. You know, now you can do it with an Allen key in a mid price point package. I mean that's gonna be tough to argue with and tough to beat. There's not a lot of tuning capabilities that are easier than that yeah, there isn't, except for the, the lift x yeah, that's, that's it.

Zakk Plocica:

It's the same. Yeah, similar concept on elite, like I said before, yeah, and those are all flagship, though you know not even close to what this is. Those are 13 to to $1,500 bows. This is $899.

JR Gettler:

Yeah.

Zakk Plocica:

It's pretty untouchable man. So all the people out there that feel like they're priced out now, you're definitely not. And again, the archery community. One of the comments that we get is you know, there's nothing new with these bows year over year. And it's no, it's not drastic, right? You don't have to upgrade bows every year, you don't. There's no reason to unless you want to, and there's nothing wrong with that. If you're really into it, invest in your hobbies and that's your thing, by all means. We got a lot of guys that do that. But you see, your biggest, I think, innovation in like every three to five years is where you really see bigger changes, right so, but there's a lot of guys out there that are still like. You know, my 2001 x is just as good, the speeds are the same, blah, blah, blah, blah. You look at specs, wise, and it's not speed that's evolving every year, right, like our speeds, like I think most people would agree, are pretty maxed out yes it's the efficiency, shootability, the tunability and the features that make.

Zakk Plocica:

That are the big changes. Right, the bows are becoming easier and easier to shoot accurately out to distance, easier and easier to tune and just more efficient. Right, like drawing an 80 pound bow from 10 to 20 years ago is not even close to drawing an 80 pound bow now. Right, look at the EC2 cam from PSE. It's probably the smoothest drawing cam system on the market, especially at a higher poundage option. Same thing with the Hoyt bows. In my opinion, that HBX exact gen four cam to me fantastic at higher poundage, especially on the longer ATA bows. So, year over year no, the changes are not drastic, not massive, but they are ATA bows. So, year over year no, the changes are not drastic, not massive, but they are. There are changes.

Zakk Plocica:

It's like you can expect a new bow to come out every year. It's going to every year and I don't know why people complain about it. It's weird. It's cool to see the innovation. No, you're not obligated to buy it, but it's like a car. There's going to be a new car every year. They're still going to get the car you had 20 years ago. Still gets you from point a to point b, but the new ones just make it a little bit easier, a little bit smoother, a little bit more comfortable, and that's the technology that you see in these bows that are coming out every year, right? So I don't know why I see so many complaints on that yeah, and it's even, you know, going to the car market.

JR Gettler:

It's even the same there every year. Yes, there's always a new car, new models coming out, but there's going to be some kind of small, little innovative change that will make it more efficient, more, more enjoyable to drive as well. You know that's a good thing to say, just more enjoyable to shoot that's it.

Zakk Plocica:

It's going to get you from point a to point b a little bit more efficiently, so so I think this is going to be a pretty good year, man. There was a lot of really good stuff that came out. Um, in the previous year, uh, I think you know, with matthews, their innovation with the limb shift technology, um, the cam systems that have come out, uh, the speeds that we're getting out of the bow, the draw cycles. I think this year is going to be good, and I'm really more interested to see now in the mid price point category than I even am in the flagship category yeah, because this is a giant game changer.

Zakk Plocica:

It's a huge leap.

JR Gettler:

Yeah, I mean, especially with all the tariffs nowadays that are coming up and um, just the overall cost of everything just constantly going year to year to year. So this is, yeah, it's, it's a huge change for the bow hunting industry.

Zakk Plocica:

Yeah, I agree, I think, um, it's going to be. It's hard to say. I'm curious what people are going to say bad about the bow. That's what I'm curious about is you know what are the negatives, what are the drawbacks that people are finding? Because I haven't found one yet, but we don't have a ton of experience with it. We've shot the bow for like a week.

JR Gettler:

Yeah, the only thing I could say is going to be their performance. I don't think a lot of guys are going to shoot on performance, so that's going to be the only downside. I I think that people are going to bring up yeah, and to me not a big deal not at all.

Zakk Plocica:

Shoot it on comfort. It still puts up really good speeds and um performs really well. The biggest I think the biggest downfall is the valley. For some people, you know, but to me it's not bad at all. It's. It's just not as forgiving as some of the bows. So if you're going, if you're used to shooting something at like 90, this ain't that, you know, but it is easier to let down 100. So again, I think, really, bow tech knocked this thing out of the park and it's going to and it's going to be a good year for them. I'm curious all the other color options that they're going to have too.

JR Gettler:

There's green, it's on that sheet. You have there this one. Yeah, it should be on here. I think, yes, you got an OD Green Riser with black limbs, Forest Riser with black limbs and the new color, Stealth Gray with black limbs.

Zakk Plocica:

Forest and OD Green. I wonder how those differ.

JR Gettler:

So the Forest. I think that's the lighter color green. It's a little bit more vibrant of a green, if I remember right. I can't remember though.

Zakk Plocica:

Interesting, interesting. And this bow's going to fit a lot of people, man. It goes down to 24 and a half inches. I mean, it's on a, it's on a rotating mod, so that's important. So you guys, it's on a rotating mod, it's not mod specific. Uh, you do have to change your um cable stops to a common to, to to the correct um setting so that it matches your mod.

JR Gettler:

You know, I've seen people forget to do that oh, yeah, yeah and a couple times yeah, I don't know why this bow shoots so bad.

Zakk Plocica:

Yeah, well, here you go. Yeah, you've answered your own question. The other thing, too, is on this bow. Did you know? Did you look and see? When it comes to turning it down, do you have to unlock the limb it does not have that so that was one in the flagship features from bow tech.

Zakk Plocica:

You have a set screw that locks the limb in place. If you go to turn the bow down, actually let some poundage out of the limbs, you have to, you know, unlock that set screw with this bow. You don't correct okay, yeah, yeah.

JR Gettler:

So that was um, oh, shoot. What do they call that brain?

Zakk Plocica:

fart. It eludes me. Yeah, yeah, I don't remember either, um, but you know, I mean, even the strings on the bow don't seem bad.

JR Gettler:

No, they seem really good.

Zakk Plocica:

I'm curious if they're the same strings that they run on flagship bows, the same material and everything I believe. So I assume they are.

JR Gettler:

I would assume so as well.

Zakk Plocica:

Because I've always had good luck with the Bowtech strings.

JR Gettler:

Yeah, actually. So that does bring up a point, because I did notice, notice how they have the cables routed. It's kind of like how they had it on the Solution SS, where you have those really sharp curves routed around the cam. So that might be a downfall that some people might find. You know shooting more, it might break into the strings more. So there was some problems with that, separating the serving really fast. So that could be one thing that people might complain about. I don't know.

Zakk Plocica:

Because there have been a handful of instances in the past. Was was the ss34 one that had the issues I think so.

JR Gettler:

Yes, the solution ss, the ss34 that was the biggest thing was the serving separations and the cables right the way they were routed.

JR Gettler:

So we'll see. Yeah, but that's gonna be probably, you know, time of shooting before we'll notice that. Um, the only other thing I think of would be, like I said, performance setting is good, but you've got to be on it. I actually really like that. They do have the dual burger buttons, so if you want to really make sure you're locking down your rest, you have the options to run that. Yeah, on that, it's.

Zakk Plocica:

Yeah, it's feature-rich man.

Zakk Plocica:

It's loaded, it's everything you could ever want. Like I said, I think you're correct we're going to see some guys potentially stepping from flagship down to this price point category because of the affordability and the features that you get with it, and then guys who have been waiting to upgrade, who just can't justify the price. This is going to be a really good option for them. Like you said, going from maybe a couple year old bow flagship bow that was, you know a few years old to this, they're going to get all the latest features in a, you know, sub $900 price point.

JR Gettler:

Yeah, it's awesome. Oh, the only other thing I could say and this is obviously more tech side is changing drawings. You got four, four screws you got to take out per mod, so you had eight screws you have to take out. So that is kind of annoying. But hey, you know you want to make sure that those mods get locked, locked down and they don't move. Yeah, because I get it.

Zakk Plocica:

Dude. Yes, because we had a bunch of issues with the diamond bows, right. Your entry-level bows usually come with a host of problems, right? Or even your mid-price point bows. They're hard to tune, they don't shoot well, they feel like the draw cycle's not good on them. There's usually something to complain about on them, right, and all of them Right. And typically for us it's the tuning side of things.

Zakk Plocica:

Tuning some of those entry level or mid price point pose is an absolute nightmare. Yes, it can be done, but it requires so much more time and energy and it's not a forgiving platform. Which mid price point entry level, typically new shooters who don't have good form and technique. It just amplifies the errors and issues and makes it that much more difficult. I'm hopeful with this, with the the guys that are going to be getting into it, the girls are going to be getting into this bow. It's a little bit more forgiving platform and easier with the tuning capability that has it, or just make the tuning process that much easier so they're not struggling with it quite as bad, right, cause that's, I mean, like that's one of the big issues with that price point bow.

JR Gettler:

I mean yeah, yeah, so we come in. I want to pay between this bow. Okay, let's sit here for three hours trying to figure this out.

Zakk Plocica:

Nine times out of 10, it's, it's a shooter induced error. Or you know, the bow, it doesn't stay in time. That's a big one with some of these bows. Some of your more entry level mid price point is they just don't stay in tune Like you can get it to shoot. And then you know it's a timing issue constantly because the strings are terrible on them. Or you know, the bow just isn't built well. I mean, that's what you get when you step up in price point is reliability, repeatability, quality of components and features on the bow. And you know a lot of those entry level or mid price point. They just don't offer that and it's just a struggle as a tech, yeah, to get it to shoot. Well, yeah, you know, I mean that's, that's what a new archer brings is no technique in form. And you just have all these things working against you and they're like now let's put it through paper. And you're like, oh my god, we just cut the paper in half with a 12 inch knock left there. How do we fix this?

Zakk Plocica:

just move the rest over because you can't shim it or you know there's, there's minimal things you can do. I mean, yeah, you can yoke, tune some of them, but I mean then the cam's like, and you're derailing it when they draw it back.

JR Gettler:

Yeah, you've got to be careful with all that stuff.

Zakk Plocica:

Yeah, I mean, those are real problems in a shop.

JR Gettler:

Stuff we deal with on the daily. It is man.

Zakk Plocica:

Everyone's got something to say on the internet, though. Everybody's just as tunable. Bro, come tune this thing, yeah, with a new shooter. Let me know how it goes for you. Yep, here's the back room. You have fun figure it out. Yeah, everybody argues about it, but I think this is going to eliminate a lot of that man. I think I'm excited for this man. This is going to be good. It's going to really, um, make our jobs probably a little bit easier I hope so.

JR Gettler:

Yeah, yeah, 31 inch axle axle six and a half inch brace height, that's super forgiving in my opinion. Yeah, super forgiving yep, yep, yep.

Zakk Plocica:

I like the design of it too, man, yeah it looks good too.

JR Gettler:

I mean that's a big plus for me. That's what I like, because I want a bow that's going to look good but also shoot good.

Zakk Plocica:

So yeah, I mean checking all the boxes right, because you know some of the bows you get their their entry-level bows, they just don't have that look. I mean they're just they look. I mean they, they work, they work, they can perform, but they just don't have the same quality look. And, uh, this does.

JR Gettler:

It looks clean, yeah, it's sharp looking man yeah, it's almost got kind of like a blend between like a hunting bow and a target bow, in my opinion like the color the color way that they have on there yeah, because it's not quite matte, but it's got that little bit of a sheen too. So yeah, it's a good looking bow yes.

Zakk Plocica:

So if you were in the market for a mid price point bow, you guys need to check out the bow tech ascend. I would encourage you, even if you're not in the market for it. I would just go. I'd be curious. You guys should go shoot it and drop some comments and let us know your feedback on it, what you think about this, this price point and the performance that you get out of this bow, because I'm curious what other shooters would say about it and what their thoughts are, because, again, I mean, it's loaded, yeah it's a price point.

JR Gettler:

Bow with flagship stuff. I mean, yeah, that's about, I don't know, there's no other way to describe it.

Zakk Plocica:

It's loaded man, you get it. It's a. It's a really good value from what I can see, and I just don't see very many flaws with it at all, if any. I mean, yeah, okay, the performance mod's a little aggressive, but aside from that, I just don't see anything else.

JR Gettler:

No, I I agree, and I mean, yeah, okay, the performance mod's a little aggressive, but aside from that, I just don't see anything else no, I, I agree, and I mean, I'm even just nitpicking it at this point just to find something, and that's, it's still nothing major, it's all stuff, small stuff, yeah, whatever yeah, there's.

Zakk Plocica:

So there's a lot of exciting things coming out this year. We've already seen for some other brands, um, that are yeah, we can't talk about it yet, unfortunately, I'm so bummed but there's some cool stuff coming this year from some of these brands and some of these bows are really going to impress people. And again, it's not the speeds that are that that are the big influencer or what everyone's looking at. It's the efficiency, the shootability and the forgiveness. That's it. It's performance based and it's not just getting more speed out of the forgiveness, that's it. It's performance based and it's not just getting more speed out of the bow, but it's making that bow that much easier to shoot, and that's what I think we see some of these companies heading in that direction.

Zakk Plocica:

You know, some of the companies are more, yes, accessorize, easy to accessorize proprietary systems which do make the bow shoot better. But then there's other brands that are really focused and performance driven that make the bow just that much easier to shoot, because we see an influx of people who want to really stretch their bows out Right and go to these total archery events with a bow, hunting bow, and be able to shoot a hundred to 120 yards with these things and on a shorter platform. And we see that with some of the features that some of these brands are coming out with and now, I think, with the ascent at that price point, you're able to take that bow out and perform probably almost, if not as well as, some of the flagship bows out to distance oh, 100, that that bow should have no problem performing no problem.

Zakk Plocica:

I mean you're getting the speeds out of it. It's um again, like, like you said, it's a 31-inch bow, so especially those guys who are anywhere from you know, 24 1⁄2 to 29 inches, it's going to be a really good fit.

JR Gettler:

Even at 30, it felt great Did it.

Zakk Plocica:

The shooting angle was good.

JR Gettler:

Yep, it felt really good. That's awesome. I'm super impressed with it.

Zakk Plocica:

Maybe I'll be hunting with this bow next year, dude, we should take one out to attack and shoot a sub $1,000 bow, a mid-price point bow, and just see how it performs and how well we can do. I'd be down with it Me too. It's kind of cool man. I like it. I like the look of it, I like the performance and the features that you gain from it. I just think it's going to be a really good option for a lot of people and it's going to shut a lot of people up about being priced out because you ain't priced out, especially with this thing. Now this thing is loaded. Yep, what else you got, jr?

JR Gettler:

I think we covered everything.

Zakk Plocica:

Now let's look at this If you were going to build this bow out, how would you build it out?

JR Gettler:

I'm going to put a hamski on it. More than likely that's what I go to normally. I wouldn't mind running a QAD again just to play around with one or or even a rip cord. You know I really haven't played much with the new grip cords. I've messed around with them a lot in the past.

Zakk Plocica:

Cause that's what's going to come with a rip cord ratchet, yeah.

JR Gettler:

So I really do like the ratchet system, especially the limb driven version. I would probably run a pick mounted sight on it just because I can now. So probably put one of my dials on there. Probably set up with some 5.0s, especially if you want to go a little bit lighter, faster setup. I love the airlock quiver. The four arrow airlock, that's a great quiver. And then, yeah, that's pretty much it. Oh, one thing we didn't mention is it is coming with that bracket. So if you're, if you're going to run a pick mounted side, it's coming with a bracket to be able to um space for your quiver yeah, to the bow.

Zakk Plocica:

Yeah, because that is kind of a pain in the ass in some of the bows. Right, you have to figure out spacers. You have to create spacers if you run that pick mount option to in order for that uh quiver to mount on the riser of the bow if you're not running their proprietary system. Right, you want a standard removable quiver. This, this accommodates that. So that is cool, that bowhead bow tech is thinking ahead for everybody.

JR Gettler:

Yeah, and they have already done that too with the um, with tight spot, with the airlock rivers. They are coming with the longer screws and the spacers. So if you're going to run that pick mounted site, you can mount it right to the boat. Right to the boat, yeah yeah, you're set.

Zakk Plocica:

Then it also has where you can run the bow tech center mass um proprietary.

JR Gettler:

Yes, it does it does have those cutouts in the riser too, so that's something else we forgot about. Again, you get everything. Yeah it's. We're finding more stuff that you get dude.

Zakk Plocica:

Yeah, every time we look at it there's something new. But I agree, so I would set it up. Similarly, I would definitely run a pick mounted site on it. I would probably run one of those hha or spot hog boonies on it. Those are kind of what I gravitate towards. Um, I would run a hamski. I'm just saying I love a hamski rest man. I would run it on there. That. Um, the epsilon, I'd put it on there, so I would. I would load it with all the high dollar features or accessories, and I would probably run.

Zakk Plocica:

I shot it with the six inch stabilizer. I would probably run an eight to 10 inch bar on it, um, and then I would honestly like to run a fixed quiver on it because I like leaving my quiver on my bow. And then you know, the more I've shot with these dang sidebars and back bars, the more I like them. But you know what I would probably do instead of a sidebar back bar is run a, uh, accuarchie SOS Hunter elite system on it, because I got one on my Mach 30. And with that quiver it offsets it just enough and it really does help with pin float and improve and make that bow settle on target that much faster. So that's probably how I would build it out 28 1⁄2 inches on comfort with. I would probably shoot between a 420 and 440 grain arrow to get that speeds of 285 to 295 feet per second that I like out of a bow.

JR Gettler:

Yeah, I would run my 5.0s. Those are 443 grains and I was getting right at 300 feet per second.

Zakk Plocica:

Oh yeah that's a lot.

JR Gettler:

I'd run that um, which I mean, if it was a tax setup I'd probably go a little bit lighter. Yeah, probably running like 420, just because stupid yeah, that was stupid. Um, and yeah, I didn't, I didn't mention bars. I normally run a 12 inch bar, so, um, I like those ramrod bars a lot, so I'd throw that on there would you run a back bar sidebar on it? It Probably the AccuHunter SOS system.

Zakk Plocica:

Dude. I think it's great for a short bow man, especially for, like, a hunting rig. The AccuHunter SOS Hunter Elite system is a great addition to a hunting bow. If you want a minimalist approach, it's something just to help make the bow shoot a little bit better and it does kill any additional vibration. So it does come with some perks. Is it a must any additional vibration? So it does come with some perks. Is it a must? Absolutely not. But I do like how it's small. It offsets the weight of a quiver on a bow and for me it just a short bow. It helps that pin settle a little bit faster and does seem to help me at distance be a little bit more consistent and a little bit more accurate. So it's not a lot of weight to the bow and it's honestly not an expensive upgrade either?

JR Gettler:

No, it's not. I mean it's not a lot of weight to the bow, um, and it's, it's honestly not an expensive upgrade either. No, it's not. I mean it's about the cost of any stabilizer and and with the, if you need a disconnect, I mean it's already coming with one, two, right in the system that comes with that.

Zakk Plocica:

So, yeah, it's already offsetting that cost, I think yeah, and you can take, and it's cool, you can. You can fine tune, adjust it to the look, the feel of your. So I mean, it's owned by Eric Griggs now and you know gas bow strings. Eric Griggs is an absolute genius, incredible individual. He's got a great team and anything that he's involved in I think is worth looking at because he's an intelligent individual.

JR Gettler:

Oh yeah, yeah, very smart, and it's been working too. I mean, we've sold a mess of those AccuHunters already.

Zakk Plocica:

We working too. I mean, we've sold a mess of those accu hunters already. We cannot keep them in stock. Yeah, so great. So there it is, guys, brand new from bow tech mid price point bow, the ascend, a 31 inch overall axle to axle bow that is feature rich, loaded with all of your flagship features, at a sub 900 price point. You really can't ask for any more. So I'd be curious to hear back from you guys what you got going on.

JR Gettler:

I think it's like a mosquito flying by my ear. Heard it buzzing.

Zakk Plocica:

He's literally got headphones on.

JR Gettler:

I swear, I heard it.

Zakk Plocica:

It's flying out of your head is what's happening. So you're loaded with features. I'd be curious I want to hear some feedback of you guys what your thoughts are on this and the direction that archery is going. You know, everyone says the bows are getting too expensive. Well, bowtech has an answer for that. Again, it's going to be very hard to beat with the amount of features that it offers. So, give us some feedback, drop some comments, let us know, if you haven't shot it, what your opinions are.

Zakk Plocica:

But I'm more curious about the people who actually give it an opportunity and shoot it and see what their honest feedback is, because everyone's got an opinion on something they have no idea or experience with. But the guys that have actual experience with it, drop some comments, give us some feedback, let us know. And then, guys that are looking at getting into archery how does a $900, sub-$900 price point sound to you? Is it still more than what you're looking to spend to get into it, or does it kind of meet those check the box for price point? In my opinion, if you're going to get into a hobby like bow hunting, you're going to try to kill an animal. It's worth investing in a solid piece of equipment and not, you know, shooting too low as far as price point goes, because some of the entry-level bows that you get, you know you can get a bow for 200 bucks, but I wouldn't take it and try to hunt with it yeah me neither.

Zakk Plocica:

So let us know, give us some feedback, drop some comments. Uh, as always, we appreciate you guys listening. Follow along. Jr appreciate you coming in this morning talking bows. Of course, you are a wealth of knowledge and that's why you're on here, because you are more technical than most people I know, including myself. Thank you, I try. So, as always, dude, I appreciate it and thanks for listening, guys. That's another episode of the archery project. Thanks for following along, subscribe like, do whatever you need to do on whatever platform it is, give us support. Um, and again, drop some comments, give us some feedback and we will see you guys in the next episode of the archery.