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Your bow can be perfectly tuned and still throw random arrows if your shot process changes from one rep to the next. We get real about the hardest part of archery: consistency. I walk through the shot sequence I rely on when I’m trying to tighten groups on the range and carry that calm, repeatable execution into bowhunting season. If you’ve ever blamed your gear for a flyer, this conversation is a reset back to the basics that actually move the needle.
We start with the foundation: stance, posture, and keeping that front shoulder down and out. From there, we dig into grip pressure and why adjusting your bow hand at full draw creates instant inconsistency. I also share the release aids I shoot and why release choice is personal, whether you’re running a thumb button, index release, hinge, or resistance style. The goal is not chasing the “best” release, it’s finding what fits your hand and building a repeatable process around it.
Then we get into the mental side of shooting a compound bow. Peep sight alignment has to be the same every time, and your pin will always float. I explain how trusting that float helps you avoid rushing, punching the trigger, and building target panic. On execution, I share the cue that’s been helping me lately: combining steady pull with a controlled “squeeze” on the thumb barrel so the shot still surprises me and follow-through stays clean.
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Why Shot Process Matters
Zakk PlocicaThe shot process, probably the most difficult part of archery, right? Without a good shot process, you are unable to be accurate and consistent. So that's what we're talking about today, guys, on the Archery Project. Welcome back. Thanks for joining me. I'm your host, Zach Placea. I have a company called Extreme Outfitters, one of the fastest growing archery shops and archery suppliers in the country. We service archers nationwide. And one of our goals with this thing here, the Archery Project, is to provide you guys with valuable information that you guys can use on your archery journey and your archery experience from my own personal experiences as a shop owner and as an archer or bow hunter. So one of the big questions I get asked a lot or more recently is what release I shoot and the my shop process, right? And this is always interesting to me because it is for me and I think most people the hardest part of archery, being consistent. That's what matters when it comes to shooting a bow. Even if it's not perfect, if it's not perfectly right, if you're consistent, you can be pretty consistent with your accuracy. Um, but that's where the struggle really is, I think for most people behind a bow is the inconsistencies within their shot process, which makes being accurate consistently difficult for people, right? Because you'll have a couple good shots and you'll have a flyer, or you'll have, you know, one or two and then you'll have a handful that are just, you know, off. And it's usually not the bow, it's the individual behind the bow and the inconsistencies within the shot process, right? Every input into the bow matters. If you have an bad input, you're going to get a bad output. So that's why it's critical that you have to have a good shot sequence or a good shot process in order to stick to to keep you in it, right? I think the thing about shooting a bow is you have to be 100% focused at the task at hand. And if you are not, your accuracy will suffer, right? When you look at the best archers in the world, they have a they follow a sequence, and the sequence is the same every time because it's consistent and it's reliable. And when you're consistent with what you do, your groups are consistent downrange. And then that's how you can make adjustments on your bow in order to dial in your accuracy, right? Your sight. But it all stems from the shot process, and you have to have a good process. A broken shot process is going to cause accuracy issues downrange that are always amplified the further you shoot. So it's important that you develop a good system. There's a lot of great resources out there for developing a shot process. Uh, and it's something that I have to constantly revisit. Uh, I am by no means an expert shooter. So there's that. I'm gonna throw this out there. I'm a dude that loves shooting my bow and improving on shooting my bow. Um, so constantly tinkering is as far as not so much with just the gear side of things, but like actually shooting and my shooting. Um and I notice for me, and I see it with other guys too. I've I've read and watched other guys who have talked about it, is like after the season, right? You spend a lot of time with your bow, but you don't spend a lot of time shooting your bow. And the the shot process is something that deteriorates rather quickly if you don't continue to use it and implement it, right? You don't use it, you lose it. That's kind of the approach I think that most people would agree with when we look at shooting a bow. It's it's a it's a skill that deteriorates very rapidly if you do not continue to hone it and work on it and be, again, like I reference all the time, methodical with it. You have to really be in it and think about it. Um, so after the season, I notice I am rusty when it comes to shooting my bow consistently because I spend more time in the woods hunting than I actually do shooting the bow. So I do notice that there's a little bit of breakdown within my shot process, right? That's the great thing about after hunting season when 3D starts back up, total archery events start back up. It's a really great opportunity to spend a lot more time behind the bow and then just re-honing those skills. But I could ask, what does my shot process look like? And I don't think it's different than really anybody else's. Um, but this is kind of what goes through my head. This is the starting point for me. So the first thing I do is when we talk about shooting on the flat ground, right? Just a static flat range. I always start with my feet and I make sure that I'm standing up nice and proud. My feet are open, not too open, uh, typically about shoulder width apart for me. I am my hips are not open to the target. I'm facing my target's down here, my hips are facing this way, and then my shoulder is in line or facing that target, right? So I make sure my posture is good, I'm standing up. The first thing I do is I make sure my grip is consistent on is consistent, right? The last thing you want to do, I think, is continue to manipulate your grip at full draw. Like once you get your grip, your grip needs to be set. So I grip the bow, put my release on, I draw the bow, I anchor. So it's stance, grip, anchor, I acquire my peep sight, I aim, and then I execute. Those are what those are that's my shot sequence, which I think is similar to probably most people. Um, but that's not always enough for me just to have that sequence in mind. And I've been watching some videos recently. Um, and Joel Turner always comes up because he's a great resource, right? John Dudley, a great resource. There's a handful of dudes out there. Um Greg Ryle, is that his name? Riles. Yes. I just watched him the other day, George Riles, sorry. Um, and just watching these different people, and everyone's got a little bit different approach. Um, but at the end of the day, it's all very similar. Um, but one thing, one of the takeaways was, and this was actually brought to my attention a few years back from Cody Griffin, who's over at Easton now, who used to work at uh at our shop at Extreme Outfitters, is talking yourself through that shot process, right? Because you have to stay in it. If any part of that sequence is broken, it opens you up for inconsistencies. So, and this was just again last night, and that's why we're doing this podcast because it's fresh in my head. Um, I was watching Joel Turner talk about talking yourself through the shot, talking yourself or teaching someone else how to your shot process, why you're going through the shot process, which just so you understand exactly what you're doing and why you're doing it, and verbally articulate what you're doing, keeps you in that shot and keeps you in the moment. And that's one thing for me that I noticed that I I neglect after a little while. And then I start to get those inconsistencies. So I started going back and doing that a little bit more and kind of talking myself through the process, and it seems to really help. Um, but before we go through all of that and I dive a little bit more into grip and you know, the shot sequence and everything, the other question that I get a lot is my you know release choices. Like what release do you shoot? And I shoot a handful of different releases, but I always gravitate back towards the stand on X thumb button clicker. It's what I shoot more than anything. But I shoot an HBC flex from True Ball. I also enjoy shooting a stan um Solex wrist release. Each of them gets shot slightly different, but the process is the same. Um, and I think when it comes to release choice, it's very personal. There's not a right answer. Um, and it just comes to what fits your hand well and I mean what what feels best for you, right? That's the thing I like about the Stan Onyx or any any of the stand stuff. I I I have no affiliation with Stan whatsoever. I sell their products at our shop, but I I like one, I like the sear in the stand. I like the the adjustment capability that you get. And I get the val I like the value that you get whenever you buy a stand release because it comes with your different um thumb barrels, um, different posts so that you can change the angle on it. Uh, and they've always been incredibly reliable to me. But I like the click version, particularly because I like getting to that click and knowing it's time for me to finish the shot. Um, so this is what I shoot. Um, I enjoy it, but I do think it's a personal preference thing. And I think it's something that, again, if you go to a pro shop, go to your local art shop and you have the ability to try out some different releases and see what work for you. Um, because there's a lot of really great ones out there. There's a lot of really great brands. Carter, Stan, Spot Hog, depending on if you're shooting a um wrist release, uh resistance release, a hinge release, a thumb button, true ball. There's all these great release options out there. And you got to kind of pick one that works for you, set it up, play with it, which does take a little bit of time, and um, and then spend a lot of time shooting it. Um, but guys that are really good can go from release to release to release and really have no issues. I ain't that good yet. I gotta really hone my skills with what I'm with whatever release I'm using. Um, but that's it. Um, you know, some of the different release options that we we get, you've obviously got your index release, you've got your thumb button, you've got your hinge release, they all have their pros and cons, and I think it's application based. Um, but I do like, I do for the most part run a thumb button majority of the time. Whether even even hunting scenarios, total archery, just shooting in general, I like shooting a thumb button. I did shoot a wrist release this year hunting. Um, it had its pros and cons or it had it its pros and cons. Um but nonetheless, I was accurate with with all of them. But I do gravitate towards a thumb button more just because I feel like I'm more consistent and it's more repeatable for me. When we talk about anchor and we talk about uh follow through and peep acquirement, it's I'm more consistent with this style release personally. Um and I'm not gonna hunt with a hinge, I'm not that guy. I know there's a lot of dudes that do. It's just I'm I'm not I still like being able to control the trigger somewhat. Uh so that's why I shoot a thumb button. Um yeah, so whatever release you you shoot with, I think it's important that you just develop your process with it. And you have to have a full process in place in order to be good with it. You can't just, it's not just that the thing about archery that that that people, like especially newer shooters, get wrong is they just start shooting and there's no thought into what they're actually doing. It is a full process. That's the thing about archery, why people talk about it like meditation and it's relaxing, and it's because you have to be in tune with exactly what you're doing. Because, like I said, every input into that bow matters. And if it's a bad or inconsistent input, you're gonna have a bad output. And that bad output is a missed target or a wounded animal. So you have to be methodical with the process. Um, I put out a post uh the other day that um it was clearly somebody shooting a um, it was like a Mongolian longbow or whatever uh whatever type of bow it was, Mongolian war bow, whatever you want to call it. And I was talking about this is what we see with new archers rushing, right? She's just slinging arrows. And I was like, this is how not how you shoot a bow. When we're referencing new shooters shooting a compound bow, at least I was, and people took it wrong way, like, well, this is a Mongolian war bow. And I'm like, dude, that you're missing the point. That people see this and they try, it's almost like they try to imitate this with a compound bow. That's not what you do. It's all about slowing down and enjoying the process and being methodical and thinking through what you're doing. And that's why a sequence is so important. And you have to put that sequence in your head and you have to run through it every shot. That's why I think it's better to shoot less arrows at a slower rate than it is to just, you know, I'm gonna shoot a hundred arrows today, shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot. And you really didn't gain anything from it except fatigue and, you know, bad habits. So I'm a big believer in slowing down your process and working through it. And maybe you shoot less arrows through the day or through your the time that you spend behind the bow. But at least you're building habits and reinforcing good habits. So into the shot process, me. I start with my stance, I make sure I'm standing up nice and proud. Um, my chest is open because what we see a lot of people do is they they they hunch, right? Their shoulders kind of roll in and they're sucked up. We don't want that. We want a nice, very proud posture, standing up nice and straight. The other thing, too, is that I forgot to mention within the process, which is with my stance, is I automatically make sure my shoulder is not sucked up. Whenever I grab my, I grip my bow, I make sure my shoulder is down and out, right? So that shoulder's not sucked up. We don't want that. The shoulder should be down and away from the jawline out. After you've established your stance, you make sure you're standing up nice and proud. When you grip the bow, it's critical that you establish your grip and you keep your grip. We don't want to make adjustments at our grip, like I said, at full draw. It just creates inconsistencies and the bow is not set where it needs to be. So you need to establish your grip whenever you step up to the line and you grab your bow. That grip needs to be where it needs to be. And typically what we see is that bow needs to rest right on the lifeline on that hand, right on the meaty part of uh your thumb pad, and there needs to be consistent pressure on the actual grip itself. Right? So we go, we grip the bow, we attach our release. The next part is we draw the bow back, right? We don't want to just yank it all crazy. We want a nice smooth draw cycle. And then anchor is the next step for me, right? Making sure that when I come to anchor, I am consistently in the same spot on my face every single time. And that's very easy for me to do with this release, right? I know with this thumb style release, when I draw this bow back, I'm going to split my jaw with these two knuckles, right? Very, very important. And the way you can consistently do that is the way you actually grip the release, too. Right? If somebody comes in and they're like, they've they've got a really tight fist and they grip this release, it's gonna be inconsistent and it's gonna put your hand in a weird position. You're when you grip the release, those fingers need to look like this, right? You don't want a fist like you're gonna punch somebody. You should have your fingers should bend at that first knuckle so that you have this flat spot in order to split your jaw consistently with the release. We see a lot of people over-grip the release, release, death grip the release like they death grip a riser, which we see a lot of new shooters do, which is a problem. You don't need to death grip it. That release, those fingers need to be consistent with how you grab that release. Uh, if not, you're not gonna have a consistent anchor point. So when I grip the release, I like to make sure that my fingers, my knuckles are straight until that first knuckle, and then I'm able to consistently split my jaw, right? Anchor point is critical in order to be accurate. You have to anchor the same way every time because if not, your peep and everything is off. Acquiring your peep becomes impossible. So I go in, I anchor consistently, I acquire my peep, right? I when it comes to peep alignment, one thing that we see with people, it's like people shooting rifles, right? You get scope shadow. Your peep needs to line up perfectly with your actual scope. If it doesn't, you can have misses, right? Your if your if your peep does not line up to your scope consistently, that's how you start missing those left and right shots. So that's why anchor and then peep requirement are critical. You whenever you get into that peep, it needs to be perfectly centered every single time. If you start to fall or drift out of that peep, that's when you're gonna start having misses. That's where I struggle a lot. For some reason, whenever I get into there, if I'm not thinking through it, I tend to start to fall out of my peep side a little bit. It's something I've struggled with forever and continue to struggle with. It's gotten better over the last couple weeks as I've kind of been working back through my shot process and going through it in my head as I'm I'm doing it. Um, but it's it's one of the bigger areas that I struggle with. Um so I have to really think myself through it. So whenever I get into that peep, I have to remember to stay in that peep. I stay in the peep site, I acquire my peep, I aim, I put my target on my pin on my target. And this is where is kind of a mind game for a lot of people is the float that the pen has. The pin is going to float. You have got to trust the float in the pin. Like it's never, when it comes to archery, it's never gonna be perfectly still on your target. It's not, it's always going to float. The the goal is so it doesn't float so where it's all over the place, right? We want it to float almost like a figure eight is kind of how it floats on your target, and you've got to trust that, right? What happens is people try to aim, and when they develop target panic, is they aim, that pin floats, and then they try to um hammer that release right as the target, the pin gets on target, and then you develop this bad target panic, which is just a psychological nightmare for people that you've got to battle through. So that's why those surprise shots are so important, and that's why you've got to trust the float within your the pin of your sight um whenever you are shooting your bow. So you draw back, you acquire your your your peep, you you aim, you let that pin float. And that's when the execution portion starts for me, whenever I'm ready, right? Whenever I get my my pin on my target and I'm ready, I start talking myself through it. And it used to, I used to just say pull, pull, pull, pull, pull. I would, you know, I would verbally say that to myself, pull, pull, pull, pull, pull. But now it's more of a combination for me with this release that I've noticed. And while yes, I'm keeping contestant consistent tension on that string, pulling through my shot, I'm not just pulling, but it's almost like I'm squeezing, almost like my hand is kind of opening up and squeezing at the same time as I'm pulling through the shot. Because one thing that I struggle with is consistent pressure on the barrel of my thumb button, which the the the the actual release doesn't go off consistently for me. Right? I'm not forcing it, but what happens is I have an inconsistent pressure, and it's because I'm not consistently putting my hand in the same spot on that thumb barrel. So whenever I'm pulling through, it's like, when is this thing ever gonna go off? And there's not a consistency. So what I do now, which seems to help, I don't know if it's necessarily right, but my consistency has improved uh a little bit, and my shots do feel better, is whenever I'm going through the shot sequence, instead of just saying pull, I'm telling myself to squeeze as I'm starting to pull my um that consistent pressure into the back wall. It's consistent pressure and I'm squeeze until that shot breaks. And that has helped me, it seems like, pretty dramatically over these last couple weeks when it comes to shooting. Um, I don't know if it's the right answer or not, but I notice with this thumb button, if I just pull, I have an inconsistent consistency in the pressure on the barrel. Whenever I tell myself to squeeze, I'm not punching it, I'm just putting pressure into the barrel and almost like my hand is like relaxing into it, into that barrel and squeezing a little bit as I pull through, and then the shot breaks, and the shot is more consistent. I'm not forcing it, I'm not punching the trigger, right? That's not what I want to do. Um, but it's still a surprise, it's a surprise shot every time it goes off. And then, you know, you get that follow through as that shot breaks. It's not over-emphasized, but it's it's there. It's just that shot breaks, elbow comes back, and you don't want to drop that bow hand too early, right? That's another problem that we see with people. Um, so I think the biggest issues for me, there's there's two spots within the shot sequence that I have to keep myself into. It is staying within my peep sight, and it is the actual execution. And the execution with the thumb button for me is if I just pull, pull, pull using back tension, I'm not consistent on the thumb barrel. I have to think about us actively squeezing the thumb barrel and pulling through my shot. Um and then that's how I I've been executing my shots. And like I said, it may not be the right way, but it seems to be consistent for me. And that's what we're looking for, is consistencies, right? As soon as there's an inconsistency, we start to have accuracy issues. Um and I think a lot of it has to do with the way you set your release up as well to you. You have to set it up for you and the size of your hand and whatnot uh in order to shoot it well, shoot it effectively. And that's why it's great to invest in a good release, in my opinion, because you have the ability to play with the way the release is actually set up, right? You can adjust the tension, you can adjust um the thumb barrels, you can adjust the actual angle of the barrel itself, or you know, the um, yeah, like I said, the tension. So that's the great thing about investing in a good release. You can play with it and set it up until it it works well for you. Um, I don't do a lot of changes with my release, but I do like a bigger thumb barrel so that I can feel that pressure a little bit more on the pad of my um my thumb, right? Because I like to be able to feel that contact better and It'll it helps me whenever I am working through and squeezing through that shot, and that shot breaks. Right, once I get to the click, I know it's time to finish the shot, continue to pull through, and that shot breaks, and it surprises me every time. So those are my biggest challenges. So that's why I think it's so important. And you know, watching the videos that I saw the other day, um yesterday, actually, just talking yourself through the shot the entire time. It just keeps you in tune with what you're doing. And I think that's very, very important with the bow because as soon as you start getting distracted, that's where you start developing target panic, that's where you start overthinking things, that's where you're not in the moment, and maybe you start punching the trigger, or you just start to anticipate that shot a little bit more, and you get you don't trust in the float of your pen. And that's where you start develop those problems, and your shot process starts to become almost chaotic. So it's important. Work through your shot process, develop a sequence that works for you, right? But just go through. No, you need to do the same thing the same way every single time. The shot should not be forced, it needs to just happen, right? As soon as we start forcing it, that's where we're punching the trigger. That's where we develop the target panic. That's where we start missing, constantly shooting low or under the target because we're trying to hit that that um that release as soon as that pin ends up on target. Um, so take your time with it, man. Like I said, for me, it's my stance, it's the front shoulder, it's the grip, it's anchor, peep acquirement, it's aim and execute. And I go through that sequence every single time, and that helps me to stay into it. And I do notice this whenever I start fatiguing, my shots are quite noticeable. And I have to be realistic with myself too as to when I need to take a break. And that's why I'm I I think it's a good approach to kind of be slow with this, right? Take your time shooting your arrows. I typically shoot three arrows at a time. I'm not saying that's the right way or the only way to do it. That's what I do, and it slows me down because I've I have a half a dozen dozen arrows. Best believe I'll get in the the process of slinging and things pretty quick. So I like to keep it, you know, shoot one to three arrows at a time. Every time I'm standing there, I go through that process and I just stay in tune with what I'm doing and I talk myself through my shot, right? Especially when it comes to the execution side of things. It's squeeze, squeeze, squeeze, squeeze until that shot breaks. Right. So I'd be curious for you guys, how does your shot process look like? Where do you struggle within the process? Because typically what I see is most people struggle somewhere within the actual process. Those are my two big struggle points. Staying within my peep site and executing that shot, right? Consistently, right? Consistent pressure on the thumb barrel, being consistent with that. Those are the areas that I struggle. So I would encourage you. It's something we can always continue to work on, continue to improve on. That's that's the great thing about archery, right? It's challenging in that you've constantly got us at it and build it. And I think that's the draw to archery and bow hunting, is the challenge that it brings. Because you could have the best bow in the world, but if you're not good at shooting it or you're not consistent with in the way in which you shoot that bow, that bow is not, you're not gonna be accurate or consistently accurate. Yeah, you're gonna have some great shots here and there, but you're gonna have a lot of flyers and a lot of inconsistencies when it comes to your grouping. And whenever you have inconsistencies with your grouping, it's very hard to dial your site in perfectly, right? You're chasing a zero constantly because you're like, oh, I need to move it again. I need to move it again. It turns out it's just you behind the bow. Um, so there's that, man. And this all carries over into hunting. I as you guys know, like I talk about all the time, I'm a bow hunter, man. That's what I do, that's what I love. But I think it's important for me to do my best in order to become a better, better shooter. Uh, and that's working through and building these good habits, because those good habits, once you develop them and you hone them, they they're they're natural. It's like you do it subconsciously while you're in the woods within an animal. If you don't have those muscle memories or um haven't worked your your shot process consistently, whenever that animal walks out, that that shot of a lifetime presents itself, and you know, you screw it up because you jumped the gun, you didn't acquire your peep, or you know, you you grip the bow wrong and whatever it is, you can eliminate those by training in the offseason, spending your time honing these skills and and really working on it. And I encourage everybody, have your shot sequence in your head and run through it every time you shoot an arrow, just to make sure, because then you can dissect what you're doing right and what you're doing wrong. Like, for example, with me, I'm able to break it down and say, I'm constantly falling out of my peep site. Why? And then why am I struggling to consistently put pressure on my thumb barrel for that shot to execute? And then you go in, you break it down, you work on it, you prove on it, you implement it, and you continue to get better. I think it's a good approach on everything, man. We can constantly seek more and do more and become better at what we're doing no matter what it is. We're never at a point in life where we that's the end, you know, we're the best we can possibly be. I think there's always room for improvement in subtle little ways. So practice, man. Practice, practice, practice. Comes down to it, spend time behind the bow. That's what matters. Um couple takeaways, the biggest issues for people gripping the bow and then changing your grip at full draw. Try to minimize that. You need to grip the bow correctly right away, and then your grip doesn't need to shift. Right? Death gripping, squeezing that riser, you don't need to do that. Your fingers should be relaxed at full draw. Your grip should be repeatable. You should have good consistent pressure on that grip depending on the bow that you're shooting. Don't death grip the riser. Whenever we talk about stance, make sure you're not squared up to the target, facing the target like you're shooting a rifle. You need to make sure your body's turned position correctly, make sure you're standing up nice and proud. That front shoulder is down and out, away from your jaw at full at full draw. When we talk about gripping our release, remember we don't want to death grip our release either. We need a nice consistent grip on our release, especially our handheld releases. If we're shooting a index style release, we want to get nice and deep in the actual trigger. So we want a nice short neck, nice deep um finger around that trigger. We're not using the tip of our finger. We should be at that second knuckle. And then we can pull through our shot. Same thing with any kind of hand release. You don't want to death grip it. You need to be able to consistently anchor in order you to for you to do that. Typically at not this um this first knuckle, but this second knuckle, those fingers should be straight and then they bend there, and then you're able to repeatedly anchor correctly with a handheld release. Uh, and then you know, going through the execution portion, require your peep, stay in your peep site, don't fall out. If you've got scope shadow, you need to make sure you're staying in um in that peep correctly, not falling out of it and eliminating any kind of scope shadow. So that's where the act the anchor point is so critical, consistently. You need to have a consistent anchor point that allows you to stay in the peep um better versus falling out like I struggle with. Uh, and then finally rushing the shot, right? We want to pull through our shot, we want good follow-through. We don't want to punch the trigger. That pin, you've got to trust the float in the pin on your target. It's going to float. It will never be perfectly still. You've got to trust it. You've got to trust in your shot process. And then execute, man. That's what it is. So that's it, guys. Give me some feedback. Let me know your thoughts. I mean, you know, where have you struggled within your shot process that, you know, has maybe taken a toll on you that you've had to work really hard on? And like I said, those are the the uh spots within or the positions within the shot process that I have struggled with, um, that I continue to have to work on and revisit every single year. Um and then when I do, things start to improve. So give me some feedback, let me know. Um, as always, I appreciate you guys, man. It's it's it's a journey. It's definitely uh a marathon and not a sprint. It's something we got to continue to hone and work on. But that's the best thing about archery, man. That's what makes it fun. So drop some comments, give some feedback, let me know. And as always, if you need anything archery related, you got questions on things, you know, head over to the website, extremoutfitters.com. We've got everything you could ever need. Archer wise, if you're local and you want to try anything, you've got you want to try new releases, I encourage you to come in our shop. We'll let you try anything, open it up, see if it works for you until you find the right fit. And uh we'll be happy to help you through and answer any questions you got. So if you got questions, give us a call at the shop. Send over some emails. The guys there are text will be more than happy to help you out. And as always, I appreciate you guys following along. Thanks for listening to me chat about my problems. We'll see you guys next episode, guys. Appreciate it.