Micro Adjust or Save the Cash? Bow Sight & Arrow Rest Breakdown

Micro adjustability is everywhere in archery right now, and it’s easy to feel like you need the “best” version of every accessory to shoot well. We slow that hype down and ask a more useful question: where do micro clicks actually change your experience, and where do they just raise the price?

We start with bow sights, because that’s the one place I personally treat micro adjustability as a non negotiable. When you’re setting up a sight, correcting windage, dialing elevation, or leveling axes, tiny movements matter, especially at distance. I also dig into the new Black Gold Modd sight and why premium design can be worth it for durability, bright pins, smooth adjustments, and getting back to zero after your gear gets bumped during travel or a long season.

Then we pivot to arrow rests and the reality of modern tuning. With today’s compound bows, a lot of fine tuning happens through the bow’s built-in systems, not by constantly moving your rest. That’s why mid-price integrated rests can be a smarter buy for many bowhunters, especially if you set your center shot, confirm your tune, and mostly leave it alone. I break down the new AAE Prophet and Driven style options, plus Hamskea’s lineup from the R7 to the Everest and Primer, including why integration matters for low profile quivers and a streamlined hunting setup.

If you’re trying to build a reliable bowhunting setup without overspending, this is the framework I use: spend more where you adjust more, and save where you do not. Subscribe, share this with a buddy who’s pricing out upgrades, and leave a review with your take: where is micro adjustability most important to you?

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Transcript

Clickbait Trends And What Matters

Zakk Plocica 0:01

The biggest lie in archery right now. I'm just kidding. We're not doing starting with any of the clickbait stuff. I don't know if you guys have noticed. There's been a massive uptick in videos that I'm particularly seeing across doesn't matter the industry, but that starts off with the thumbnail or in the title, the biggest lie in X, Y, or Z. Kind of interesting. I guess everybody's looking to get those clicks. Do what you can. I haven't really watched any of the videos, but which is something I noticed. But we're not talking about that today. I

Micro Adjust Versus Standard Gear

Zakk Plocica 0:26

I was doing a video the other day on an Aero Rest, and it got me thinking. I wanted to talk about micro adjustability versus non-micro adjustability within some of the products in the Archery world, right? Because when we we know whenever we get to micro adjustments within a product, it drives the price up, right? It's a premium product. And I don't necessarily think everybody needs microadjustability in all of their products. So that's kind of what we're talking about. We're going to cover some different sites, some new sites that have dropped, some new arrow rests that are drops, and just kind of get my take on microadjustability versus non.

Shop Update And Arrow Builder

Zakk Plocica 1:02

So welcome back to the archery project, everybody. I'm your host, Zach Placea. Some of you guys know I have a company called Extreme Outfitters, one of the fastest growing archery shops and suppliers in the country. We serve archers across the nation. So if you need anything archery related, you don't have a local shop near you, hit the website, extremeoutfitters.com. Use the code ArcheryProject, save you some money. We've got a new custom arrow builder where you can test build arrows, right? You could build one, you could build a dozen, doesn't matter. You could build as many as you need to fill your quiver. We got a bunch of different configurations. You can build them exactly like you like. So check it out extremoutfitters.com use the code ArcheryProject. But getting into this, like I said, there's some new products that have dropped recently that kind of got me thinking a little bit about micro adjustability and who really needs it within the archery world, right? What archers actually need this stuff? And I don't think necessarily everyone does.

Why A Micro Adjustable Sight Wins

Zakk Plocica 1:53

But there are a couple things that I look for in products that I just will not go or choose that don't have micro adjustability in it. And particularly for me, it's a site, right? A bow site that has micro adjustments in it is critical for me because of when we talk about setting up a site, you know, adjusting your windage, adjusting your elevation, elevation, those are something that you do more often in a site than you do in an arrow rest. For me, particularly, right? When we need to make those little adjustments, I like that fine click in a site just because little click goes a long way, especially out to distance. And when we set up a site, it's something that we are constantly kind of adjusting until we get it just right. And micro adjustments make it really nice. I don't know if you've ever set a site up that doesn't have the micro adjustability in it. It's a little bit more labor-intensive. It requires a little bit more effort. And if you've ever like loosened a set screw and then went to make adjustment and then the whole thing goes left or right, or it's just not smooth, it's a little bit more difficult and just kind of a pain in the butt. So, not necessarily a deal breaker. You know, you do save a lot of money whenever you go with a little bit more affordable option as far as not micro adjustment. But for me, as someone that adjusts a site quite a bit, right? Because maybe it gets bumped whenever you're traveling, you know, those fine adjustments are very, very nice. And it's a lot easier to return to zero or to where you started with the micro adjustability in the site.

Black Gold Mod Sight Breakdown

Zakk Plocica 3:19

And the reason I talk about it is because black gold came out with a site recently. It's called the Mod Site. Um, I've actually got it on this boat behind me. It's a premium site, right? Black gold, the mod site, it comes in. You've got a dovetail option and you've got a pick mount option. And it's a $600 site. You know, not really something that everybody can justify. Um, and you don't have to spend $600 to get micro adjustability in it, but it just got me thinking about it. But the new black gold site is pretty slick. Um we talk about durability, it's incredibly durable. The the pin configurations that you get, I think black gold has some of the best pins as far as brightness go in a site without needing to run an extra light in there. They just pick up light very, very well with their photochromatic system. And the pins in this are kind of unique. Typically, you see a 10,000ths or a 19,000ths. This comes with the 15,000ths pins in it. So very cool, very robust feeling, feels very durable. It's got a little weight to it, a little bit of heft. Um, but it's just a very durable feeling site. The scope housing is very nice on it. Uh, the integrated light system on it, the micro or the adjustability with your three vertical pins, you can adjust all independently. So, depending on what um yardage you want to configure that site to, you can absolutely do that. And the, you know, the wheel on it, nice and big, nice and smooth. It's just another great option out there for the guys that are looking for a premium site, and all of these sites that are out there. And for me, I just think, and you can get away, you can not get away with, you can get micro adjustability in some sites that are a lot more affordable. Um, but black gold, again, top tier, top of the line, um, premium price on this thing. But it seems like it's gonna be one of those sites that is gonna be around for a long time. The ergonomics and the design is just really good, really nice. The actual indicators on it for your yardage tapes is awesome. You can remove the yardage wheel on it. You could change out your site tapes depending on the arrows that you're running. So for me, with a site, micro adjustment just makes a lot of sense. Um,

Match Your Setup To Your Goals

Zakk Plocica 5:34

especially if you're somebody that does a lot of different style shooting, right? If you're somebody that just goes out and whitetail hunts, right? A fixed three-pin that doesn't have micro adjustment probably makes a lot of sense for you. You don't gotta overspend on a site. And I'm not encouraging anyone to overspend or go buy something that they don't need. I think everything is application-based, and you've really got to look at yourself and who you are and what your goals are with what you do. Like for me, example, for example, I do a lot of different types of archery, right? It's I'm in the archery business, right? This is the industry that I'm involved in. So, you know, I do 3D stuff. We go do total archery events, I bow hunt um different states. And the ability to micro adjust with the site based off the arrow that I'm running, the um the travel that I do if the site gets bumped off, setting it back with micro adjustment clicks, it's just a lot more proficient and easier. And we know with the site and or with archery in general, we want proficiency, we want reliability, we want um just good accuracy. And I think with the micro adjustment clicks that you get on a site, for me, it's a non-negotiable. But like I said, it's application-based. If you're not someone that does all these different things, and once you get a site set, get it set, let it go, you don't really have to make much adjustments. And I understand that. But same thing, like going back to like the black gold. You've got micro adjustments within your first, second, third axis. Makes it nice for leveling your axes. If you're someone that travels a lot and you need to get it bumped off and you can make those micro adjustments, it makes it nice. But again, not a requirement for everyone. But you know, that's for me, I will always have a site that's micro adjustable.

Do You Need A Micro Rest

Zakk Plocica 7:14

But I we got in these new arrow rests, and I was looking at them and I was like, I don't know nowadays with how we tune a bow, right? When for most bows, we set a rest at 1316 from the riser, we level the arrow, and then the tuning process, once we know we've got the arrow that we need to be running through it, the tuning, majority of it's done within the tuning system on the bow, right? The moving the cam, adjusting the limbs, right? We've got our limbshift technology, we've got our XCS tuning, we've got the deadlock from bow bow tech, and then we've got shims from Prime, PSE, and some of these other manufacturers, then you've got these super intuitive systems through like Darton and uh Elite. So I was kind of thinking, you know, if you go with a premium arrow rest, it's you're spending $300 plus dollars on it, right? And I was like, man, you know, for nowadays, most people, and I'm not talking about our two super techie guys, if you're somebody that is very in tune with archery, like, and you you shoot competitions, like you're just a really proficient good archer. I think there's you can justify spending money on a premium arrow rest for the micro adjustability because you just understand maybe you're doing a lot of changing with arrows, adjusting center shot, um, having to make those adjustments and you want those fine clicks, it makes sense. But I think for like the run of the mill, the average bow hunter, a micro adjustable rest is not necessarily a necessity. Because, like I said, when we talk about tuning, once we set that arrow rest for the most part, once we establish an arrow shaft, most guys, when they pick an arrow, they want to stick with an arrow. And that's what they hunt with, especially if you're, you know, you're a casual bow hunter. So spending $300 plus dollars on an arrow rest doesn't make a lot of sense. And once we set it, we set it. We don't normally have to make a lot of adjustments. Typically, the tuning is done within the bow itself, right? We make our adjustments in our limbshift technology, we make our adjustments in the XTS, we shim the bow. I mean, the adjustments in the actual rest are minimal at this point for most of the bow manufacturers. And I say for most bow hunters. Once it's close and set, it's locked in, it's good. You don't need to make the adjustments on it. But the guys that are looking for that do want the premium products, that do want that adjustability, that do like to tinker, that do spend a lot of time behind a bow, maybe it's swapping out arrow setups, right? You you go from building an arrow for the off-season for 3D stuff, and then you go to building a hunting arrow, or you go from building a western, you go from western hunting to hunting the east coast from whitetail, stuff like that. It makes sense to have the micro adjustability so that you can change depending on the diameter of the arrow and whatnot and what adjustments you need to make. Micro adjustment just makes a little bit more sense. But again, for most people, I just don't think micro adjustment is probably worth it for a lot of people. Now, not everyone, obviously, but you know, and the reason I bring this up is we just got in a new Aero Rest. It's

AAE Profit And Driven Rest Overview

Zakk Plocica 10:11

from AAE, it's the profit eye and the driver eye. And everyone's familiar with the Prophecy, right? These arrow rests are incredibly durable. You pick it up, it's very hefty, it's just built extremely well. AEE does a really good job with building a product that is just going to last 400,000 plus cycles with the prophecy, and it still runs. And it's the same concept with this, just very durable, all internal, sealed bearings, just a very reliable, the actual encasing of the the rest itself. It just feels bulletproof. It's just feels extremely well built. But the thing about the Prophet versus the Prophecy is one this integrates into the rear of the riser, right? Which the cool thing about this arrow rest in particular is it integrates into the rear of every single bow, modern compound bow on the market that has a dovetail, including the lift RS, which I've got right here. So the reason that I thought this was kind of cool is the lift RS, you'll notice with the cable guard, the way it's designed, a lot of aero rests do not work with it. Well, the profit does. I mounted it up the other day, got it set up, and it works with this bow, which I thought was kind of cool. Sorry as I tear everything down, I'm trying to show this bow. Which I thought was kind of cool. So this arrow rest will work with pretty much any of your bows. It's a very low profile, thin, streamlined design, looks extremely well built, feels extremely well built, just a good design, but it's non-micro adjustable. Right? So you save money on this, but this still feels like a premium product. You just don't have that micro adjustability within the actual arrow rest itself, which I was thinking, I was like, ah, most people probably don't need it. And this rest will do everything they could ever want to because once they set it, it's set. You don't have to make a lot of adjustments. Now, setting it up initially is a little bit more labor-intensive, in my opinion, right? Because with this, like the profit right here, you don't have an elevation adjustment screw. The elevation is done within the rest completely. So you have to get it set where it needs to be based off the bow, right? If you're running the arrow through center of the burger hole, you need to get it lined up initially because you can't make any of those click adjustments to adjust your elevation if you get a little bit knock high or knock low tear. And that needs to be done because it's not a timing issue. Maybe it's the arrows just sit a little bit knock high or knock low because you didn't tie it perfect. Your knock set or d loop perfectly, and you need to make the adjustments. You got to move the whole rest. So it could be a little bit more labor intensive. But again, once you get it and set it, it's not something you typically have to adjust. And you save $100 plus dollars with going with something like this. Still a premium product, just doesn't have the micro adjustability in it. And this thing still feels, like I said, it's built like an absolute tank. Same thing with your wendage on this thing, right? You don't have micro clicks on it. It's in this bar here. There's set screws at the bottom of the actual launcher that you have to take and loosen. You have to move it left and right. And you have to be careful with you when you do this because if you're trying to make those fine adjustments, it's easy to go too far one way or the other or change the pitch of the launcher if you've got weight on it from the arrow. So, again, while it is a little bit more cumbersome and requires a little bit more time, it's a little bit, I think a little bit longer setup process, not anything major. You save a lot of money with it. And once you get it set, you lock it down and it's good. But this thing's pretty slick, man. They've got it, like I said, in a cable-driven option, which is the profit, and then the driver is the limb-driven option. So depending on how you like your arrow rest to function, right? Or to be activated, whether it's the cable of the bow or the limb on the bow, you've got options. And the launcher on this thing is incredibly nice too. You have to preset it prior to drawing the bow back. It doesn't come up whenever you draw the bow. So you're going to preset it and draw the bow back with the cable-driven option. And then the material on it, it's very nice and quiet. So there's no noise whenever you're drawing that bow back and that arrow sliding across the launcher. Again, 400,000 plus cycles, just built extremely well, but it's a step down from your premium price, right? By 100 plus dollars for some of these arrow rests. So super cool, super nice. It's new. They just brought it to market. Uh, we should hopefully have some more of these in here very shortly. Um, but I was very intrigued with it, and it kind of made me think maybe I don't need the micro adjustability and some of the arrow rests that I've run in the past, like the Epsilon, for example. Again, another premium rest. Um, it's nice, it's got the micro adjustment on it. But you know, I've noticed with all of my bows that I set up is once I, for the most part, get a bow set up and it's settled and it's shooting well, I don't have to make really any adjustments within my bow itself, like the actual arrow rest itself, especially with the guys that are shooting Matthews, Bowtex, or you know, Hoyt's. It's all done within those tuning systems. You get to micro adjust your bow within the tuning system of the bow itself, which is super, I think, cool and reliable. And it's easy to make those micro adjustments for broadhead tuning, for bear shaft tuning, for paper tuning for some of these different bows. It's the same thing with Darton, right? And then I think even Elite. Um, so we set the ride, we set the arrow S 1316, level it, we're good. So you can save a little bit of money on some of these different products versus having to have a premium product for every single category or accessory on your bow, right? If you want to you want a site that does all of the micro adjustments, which for me is very easy to justify, you can spend $400 to $600 on some of these sites and get the micro adjustment of adjustability within the site to make those fine adjustments, which for me is worth the money. But like Aero Rest we talk about now, you've got good, better, best now, and you can kind of get away with good and not have to go even better best based off the way we tune these bows. So that's the profit, right? And we we move over to the Hamski side of things. They've got

Hamskea R7 And Torque Tuning

Zakk Plocica 16:01

again a good, better, best option, you know, the best being the R7. What do you gain with going from something like an R7 or a prophecy or something like that? Well, obviously, you get your micro adjustability out of it. Um, you get all of the best features within the rest. But like with the prophecy and the R7, the R7 being an integration style rest, but they've got this new uh PRS exchange system, which allows you to uh torque tune your actual arrow rest to your bow, which is cool, right? And we know that the prophecy is side-mounted. You can torque tune, you can move that rest in or out based off where you need it to be to improve the forgiveness of the bow. So with the R7 it being an integration style one, that those adapter pieces, which come in a 0.3, 0.4, 0.5 spacers, allow you to change the distance from the arrow rest to the riser to tort tune the bow to make it a little bit more forgiving. That's why it's a premium product. You've got every bell and whistle on this thing in order to set it up perfectly. And I think that's for a special kind of person, not the average bow hunter, but your guy who is really in tune with what's going on with the bow, tunes their own bows, understands all the different types of tuning, right? And how to implement those tune, those tuning um processes into their bow to make the bow the most forgiving, best shooting bow that they possibly can for them, whether they're shooting tournament stuff or they're bow hunting, right? They're just a different level of person. But, you know, the R7 here in particular, one thing that is nice about it is the ergonomics and the design that allow you to access all of your set screws and adjustments from the outside of the bow very easily with an Allen key without having to try to wrench in there and get in there. And you know, if you got big hands or big fingers, it's a little bit more difficult. But the R7, it's very intuitive in the way that it's designed to set it up and mount it to your bow. And then you get those nice crisp clicks for those people that really just want to just fine-tune every bit of their bow, like you can do that with this on top of being able to torque tune in integration style rests. So super cool. And we know Hamski is known for durability, like just very robust, very um high quality, heavy-duty arrow rests, and same thing with the R7, but you're paying a premium for this thing, man. Um, you know, from the launcher on it is nice. The material that the this this like bulletproof woven material on the launcher, the launcher itself, how you can adjust like pitch, angle, um, micro adjust everything on it. It's just a premium error rest. And like I said, for the guys that need it, like this, the Prophecy, those type of arrow rests are absolutely worth the money. But most people probably not, man. It's a little bit too much for most people. But you know, Ham C's got a solution

Everest And Primer For Real Budgets

Zakk Plocica 18:45

for that. They've got the Everest, which is kind of new to us. We've not carried the Everest until you know a couple months ago at Extreme Outfitters. But I was really impressed with this. I use this arrow rest on all of our Bowar stuff, like all of our testing that we do. I put an Everest on there. It's very easy, it's very low profile. It integrates to, again, integration style arrow rest to all the risers on all of the current bows that we um we sell, aside from the RS, which requires like in uh QAD or a even a whisker biscuit works on there. But this works on all your other bows. And again, it doesn't have your micro adjustability in it, but you still get that premium feel product that you expect from Hamski. The launcher on it's nice, the spring in it, it's very, very stiff, uh, reliable. You can just tell that you're gonna get a lot uh a lot of life out of this. You don't got to worry about anything seizing up, freezing. Again, these are all limb-driven options from Hamski right here. Uh, but even the mounting and everything is heavy duty. The only thing is you don't have that micro adjustability again for elevation or wendage. Your elevation is all done with the rest. So you've got to be on your game when you're setting these up and you've got to take your time because if you do set it knock high or a little knock low, you can't just loosen the set screw, change your elevation with a couple clicks. You've actually got to move the entire, make it off, take off um the mount, move it all the way up or down. It's just not quite as smooth. Is that a problem for most people? Absolutely not. Same thing with your wendage. You'll notice it does have your etched engraving here so you can see where you are, but your adjustments just not as fine. But, you know, if you do your measurements and you get it set at 1316, you really shouldn't have to move it much. You know, back to the prophecy, you'll notice the actual um laser engraved or laser-etched markings are very fine on this. So lining this up, it is very easy to see where you are. You just got to be very particular or meticulous with making your adjustments on it. But all the indicators and things are there on these arrow rests. And you know, non-micro adjustability to me is may is is probably gonna be or is more we're starting to see is more popular for a lot of these, um a lot of people just based off the cost alone, because we know you know archery costs continue to rise like everything else in the world, right? It's not exclusive to archery, everything is becoming more expensive. Um, but when you can save money in certain places and still get a very good product, I don't see why you wouldn't. And in particular, Aero Rest is a really good place to save a little bit of cash, in um, in my opinion. And like I said, the new designs and all these bows is I mean, we set them up, set your center shot, she's ready to roll, make your adjustments in your tuning system. Now, if you have some of the older bows where majority of your where you can only do so much adjustment within the actual system itself, like having that micro adjustments within the rest where you can make it is does make it a little bit nicer. It does make it a little bit easier on some of these, um, some of these bows, even the newer bows, right? It's just a little bit more fine, but I think for most people it's just not a requirement. You know, uh Hamsky's also got their primer arrow rest, which is a very affordable arrow rest for most people. Same thing, it's still a good quality arrow rest, it's just a little bit more, I would say, like not even clunky, it just doesn't have. Have the features that the Everest or the R7 has. I mean, the launcher is just a solid metal. It doesn't have the actual um plastic coating on it that makes it a little, I think, a little bit more durable, a little bit quieter. And it's a side mount. So all our bows now have these integration systems in them, right?

Integration Rests And Low Profile Quivers

Zakk Plocica 22:26

The IMS system or the dovetail in the rear of the riser that allows as bow hunters to mount these rests into that, right? The the primer does not. It is a side-mounted arrow rest. Not a big deal for some people, but if you're somebody that runs any of these new bows, the great thing about all of these new, like the Profit, the R7, the Everest, the QADs, MX2s, any of those arrow rests that are, you know, better, best arrow rests. They have this integration that allows them to be mounted to the rear of the riser. And if you know all the bows now, everybody is going for streamlined. Like that's the thing. There's less and less junk hanging off the side of a bow, which distorts the feel of it or pulls it off center, right? With too much weight on one side or the other to where you really got to run a lot of bar on one side, or it's just kind of clunky and off to the too far off to the side where it gets hung up on things. Well, everybody's got their systems now with their quivers, particularly, and even the sights where it brings everything in line. And with the hunting bows in particular, the integration style arrow rest for if you're going to run like, especially like a Matthews low profile quiver, you have got to run an integration style arrow rest on that bow in order for it to work, or you're going to have clearance error issues for your arrows in that quiver, right? Because they'll just be that rest will be too far off the riser. Your arrows, once they're in the quiver, are going to be touching that arrow rest, which can cause it to bind up and not function correctly, and even bump your arrows out so they're not seated fully in the quiver. So that's the other thing about looking at some of these little bit better and best arrow rests, why it makes sense is being able to have that integration to the rear to riser to run the low profile system that is designed around a lot of these bows, you know, your airlock quivers from tight spot, low profile quivers from Matthews, any of these where you want everything nice and tight to the riser, these integration style rests allow that. And you have, like I said, options, a better and a best for the most part, where you get that integration style. Um, and same thing with your sights, too. And this depends on everyone is different. Your bow hunters in particular. Most people that I interact with are not torque tuning their bows. So a Piccatini style mount, which is integrated into the actual um is in line with the riser itself, versus a side mount, which again can impact your low profile quivers and things to where they just don't mount correctly because there's too much stuff off the side of the bow. So just some things to consider, man.

Where To Spend And Where To Save

Zakk Plocica 24:57

And you know, looking at it from somebody who doesn't want to overspend either, like I get it, like I'm involved in this industry and we sell and I have access to all of these things. I don't, I have to buy pretty much majority of my stuff as well. And if there's ways that I can save money in particular areas, or you know, there's areas that I'm willing to kind of, I don't want to even say downgrade because it doesn't even seem like a downgrade, but not overspend or have that premium. One of the things for me is kind of the middle grade area with an arrow rest for my particular stuff, right? Because I'm somebody that once I get things set up, I kind of want it just left alone. I don't want to continue to tinker um too much because when I find something that works, I want to stick with something that works, especially whenever I'm hunting. I'm more apt to play in the off season with, you know, just shooting around my house or doing some 3D stuff, but like hunting stuff, once I get it, I want to be able to set it and and leave it. So I don't want to overspend on everything. Um and, you know, like I said, everyone I think is a little bit different and what they're willing to spend, but there's really great options in the non-premium stuff. And I think that's one of the things that people get confused about archery as well, is they're like, oh man, everything is too expensive. And it's really not. Uh obviously, you're going to spend there's investment when getting into archery, right? You got to buy the bows, you got to buy the accessories, you got to buy the arrows, but you don't have to overexpend on everything. I mean, if we look at everything now, there's really great mid-price point bows that offer flagship features. There's really great mid-price point arrow rests that offer flagship features. There's really great mid-price mid-price sites that offer flagship features. You don't have to be a premium guy. You don't have to buy the Lamborghini of every category or accessory or bow within whatever you're doing. You can really take a step back and look at what your goals are in the system and see how into this thing you really are. And if you need to justify that additional price tag based off your capability, skill set, or goals. So that's just my take on that. Like I said, we were doing some videos on this stuff, and I really like these some of these new arrow rests, and that uh specifically the profit. I was just kind of intrigued with it. I've never ran an AAE arrow rest particularly. I've run some QADs in the past, I've run ripcords in the past, I've run Hamskis in the past, and um particularly like the Hamsky, the Epsilon series, the hybrid hunter pros, um, some more of your um higher end arrow rest. But we got this profit in, and I was just really intrigued with it by just how well it felt, how just build-wise, just like I like something that's sturdy, and this thing feels incredibly sturdy. And I was messing with it, got it mounted, and one, it mounts on every single bow, like the lift RS. I was impressed with that because we haven't been able to find a good arrow rest that mounts to it aside from a QAD. And um, this does. So it integrates into everything, it doesn't have the micro adjustability on it, but the price point is a little bit better by a hundred plus dollars from from your flagship arrow rests, and the adjustment that you get out of it is still fantastic. 400,000 plus cycles, it's just a good arrow rest option for a lot of people, including probably myself. So it's gonna be one that I'm gonna be messing with a little bit more, and yeah, you know, that's it. So I just don't think, man, I'm you know, I'm I'm a big believer in you know, spend with what's within your means, don't overspend on everything. We see so many people harp on here that, like, oh, everything's too expensive. And and yeah, it can be if you go flagship everything, but you don't gotta do that, man. Like the introduction of some of these new products is just stellar, and you get those flagship features. And yes, obviously it's not a flagship, whatever the product is, accessory or bow. Um, so it doesn't have all of your premium features, right? Maybe the tuning system is a little bit less intuitive. Maybe the cam system isn't the current cam, but you still get a really good product, especially for a bow hunter that's looking to get out there and just bow hunt. Like, I mean, you these are everything on the market now is light years a lot uh ahead of what it was just 10 years ago. And now you've got flagship features within these mid-price point categories. I think it's fantastic. So basically, what I'm saying is look at your goals, look at where you're at, look at where you need to spend more, and look at where you can cut back. So you can invest in other areas, right? Or maybe you can just put some money away and you don't got to spend it at all. Um,

Non Negotiables And Practical Picks

Zakk Plocica 29:16

but for me, some of my non-negotiables are for micro adjustability in particular, is a bow site. I like the micro adjustability, I like the fine clicks, I like when I'm leveling a site to have the micro adjustability for second and third axis, if it's got all three axes adjustments on it. Uh, that's a non-negotiable for me because a site seems like something I adjust more than anything, especially when we talk about windage, because it is easy for them to get bumped off. And I like to be able to take loosen my, especially tool-less adjustment on it, loosen my windage and make those corrections real quick and on the fly without having to take an Allen key, put it in there, move too far one way, forget where I was, go back the other way. If you've ever done it, it's gonna be incredibly frustrating, especially with some of your cheaper sites that are plastic that don't slide smoothly. It'll drive you crazy. So for me, non-negotiable, I'm always gonna have micro adjustability in my bow site. Where I'm willing to not necessarily have micro adjustability at this point after seeing some of these newer arrow rests is the aero rest itself, right? I'm looking at some of these mid-price points. I really like the Everest Aero Rest, man. I just think for the money and the the piece of equipment that you get, it's just quality. The only thing you're not getting is the micro adjustability out of it. Same thing with this new AAE profit. I just really like these designs. They're integration style arrow rest. So they work on all of these bows, they integrate into the dovetail, so you can still run all of your low profile accessories on it. Everything's streamlined within the bow. You just don't have micro adjustability on it. Not necessarily, at this point for me, not necessarily a deal, a deal breaker whatsoever. And um, you get them, you got different options with them as well, right? You got cable-driven options, you got limb-driven options. It just depends on you and what you're after, what you like, what kind of rest activation is favorable to you. I personally have gone, majority of my bows have been a limb-driven arrow rest. Um, just over the years. I've just been incredibly comfortable with it. I just I like them. They're very easy to set up, they're very reliable. I've never had any timing issues with them. But I've got this profit. I'm gonna play with a little bit more that's cable driven. We'll see. Maybe I'll end up with a driver. Or is it the drive or the driver? I don't want to tell you that. I don't want to say this wrong. Is it is the AAE driven, not the driver. Dang it. Sorry guys, the AAE driven I. Um so going back and forth with that. The only thing, the the the thing is where you don't get with the flagship or the mid-price point arrow rest, like I said, is the torque tuning capability like you get with like a prophecy or or even just a side-mounted arrow rest in general, where you have the ability to move in or out, or the R7, which is new from Hamski, which has which is an integration style arrow rest, which has that um what's it called? The PRS exchange system where you can take those blocks and move that arrow rest in or out to improve the forgiveness of the bow based off your bow and your shooting. So lots of options out there, guys.

Product Roundup And Buying Advice

Zakk Plocica 32:11

Save money where you can. You know, I'm I'm a big believer in it, whether you believe it or not, even though I sell archery equipment, I'm a big believer in not overspending. You know, there's a lot of other things you could spend good money on, and that's hunts, that's arrows, which you're gonna constantly need, and uh even places to shoot, right? Ranges, 3D events, uh stuff like that. So that's it, guys. So check out some of the new arrow refs that are on the market if you're in the market for one. If you're looking for premium, uh the Hamski R7 is a great one. Obviously, the QAD MX2s have been incredibly popular, some of the ripcords, uh, and then the the Prophecy from AAE. If you're looking for something where you can just really adjust, micro adjust, Torque. Great options there. And then the mid-price point, guys, I think is really a banger area for a lot of these now. AE Profit, the Hamski Everest are great options, and then more of you, you've got some entry-level ones that are out there too. The primer from uh Hamski's has always been a very popular one to me. I just think it's for the money. It's it's great for very entry-level, but it's not a side mount. So keep that in mind when you're setting your bows up. If you've got these new flagship bows and you want to run those integration style arrow rests, you need to run an integration, not arrow rest, you want to run a low profile quiver, you need to run the integrated arrow rest on them so it all works in sync. So check them out, guys. Hit your local dealers. If not, check out extremeoutfitters.com. We got pretty much all of these things in stock. If you got questions on them, you can always reach out to us. We'd be happy to help help you out. Um, we got some new videos dropped out on the the profit and we have one out on the driven, on how to mount them and in you know, hopefully answering any questions you got them. So hit the website extremeoutfitters.com. Use the code ArcheryProject, save you money on your next arrow rest or custom arrow build, whatever it is.

Listener Feedback And Closing

Zakk Plocica 33:53

As always, appreciate you guys following along. Drop some comments and give me some feedback. What's your thoughts as far as micro adjustability versus non-micro adjustability? Does it matter to you at all? And if it does, where is it most important to you? Is it more important to you in your site? Is it equally important to you for your arrow rest? Uh, give me some feedback and let me know because I'm always interested to hear from you guys and what makes sense from you versus just my perspective in my equipment and what I use around here and what I've seen with our customers. So drop some comments and let me know. As always, appreciate you guys following along. Thanks for watching. We'll see you guys in the next episode of the Archery Project.