Family Therapy Podcast
Two cousins get together to discuss recent events & hot topics with insight from their generational differences and outlook on today's society & culture. Warren and Erica offer commentary on entertainment and music industry news. This podcast welcomes listeners a peak into their unique upbringing with hilarious stories and general life survival guides.
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Episode 5: What Now, Warren? | When TV Shows Return But The Audience Doesn't
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Warren kicks things off with excitement about Marvel's "Thunderbolts," the final film in Phase 5 premiering on his birthday. The conversation reveals how Marvel responded to superhero fatigue by scaling back releases from four films annually to just one in 2024, creating space for more thoughtful storytelling. Early reviews suggest "Thunderbolts" successfully recaptures the magic of earlier MCU entries—something Warren can't wait to experience first-hand.
The hosts then explore television revivals, particularly "Roseanne" and "That's So Raven," examining how these shows attempted to reconnect with adult audiences through nostalgia. Their discussion reveals the challenges revivals face in today's fragmented streaming landscape, where shows struggle to gain traction despite faithfully recreating what made their originals special. Warren and Erica reminisce about appointment television—the ritual of gathering at specific times for programs like TGIF or Disney Channel original movies—a shared cultural experience largely absent in today's on-demand world.
Today's episode of what Now contains strong language and adult themes. Hey, Erica.
Speaker 2:Hey Warren, How's it going Good?
Speaker 1:How are you doing? I am good Tired but good Coming off from a long week, huh.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:Long week. Pretty stressful it was. It really was.
Speaker 2:I'm like trying to get situated and organized and I'm like, oh my gosh, long week, pretty stressful it was, it really was. I'm like trying to get situated and organized and I'm like oh, man, I feel you and it's. Monday, but usually I'm like really energized on Mondays.
Speaker 1:Same.
Speaker 2:But today, for some reason, I'm just like dragging.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I understand, but it's all right.
Speaker 2:Well, I'll get it together.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you just got back and I understand. When you get back from traveling, when you get home, you just want to just rest Right, being away from home for that long.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 1:You just want to like you're glad to be home. Yeah, I feel you. I feel you. Did you see that there was a cop here earlier?
Speaker 2:I did not. Yeah, I was buried in my computer because I don't need to have a long weekend. I had took Not, I was buried in my computer because not only did I have a long weekend, I took two days off, so I was just slammed with work today.
Speaker 1:A lot of work to catch up on.
Speaker 2:No lunch, no, nothing. Just sat at my computer, A couple of breaks to grab some water and stretch, but that's about it.
Speaker 1:Definitely sounds like a Monday. Yeah, definitely sounds like a Monday. Yeah, no, I was doing DoorDash earlier. I started this morning at six, six or five, pretty early, yeah. And then on the way back, some some old lady gilbert lady didn't want to let me pass her, but she was going so fucking slow on her phone, but when she saw me I was in that wasn't a pastor she wanted to speed up and then so, me being me, I had to like give her the finger and then I pulled around her, I honked my horn, I pulled in front of her, I stopped and I rolled down my window and I said, hey, I thought I felt her off.
Speaker 1:Pretty good, pretty good, I, I, I, I got, I got that in yeah, made sure made sure she saw me, make sure she saw me, and then I told her to go. I was in this. I said, just go, say she's in a big old fucking hurry, yeah, go. And she don't want to go. So I I was like man, dude, like you're like really being Gilbert right now, aren't you? And so she followed me here and I was like man, she wasn't leaving in this second. She's called, she's going to do something, this fucking Gilbert Gilbert doing man I was. So I was like man.
Speaker 1:I came inside. I was like man. I came inside. I was like man, should I tell Erica? Should I like what's gonna happen? Like what are they gonna do? Like what you know? I was like man. I went out there and we just talked it out and that was it. It was, it was real quick, it was real quick, but it but it definitely gave me one of those little scares where I'm like, yeah, I do like they're gonna take my car or something or they're gonna find something, and I'm thinking and put me out of work something stupid like that.
Speaker 2:Exactly cite you something, but you didn't get no something done.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, no tickets or anything. He, um, yeah, it was, it was pretty chill. It was pretty chill, thank god yeah, god serious that's the last thing I need right now right the last thing I need, like two days before my birthday, exactly for my birthday. Yeah, it's my birthday coming up. We have several birthdays coming up in the household, don't we?
Speaker 2:we, yes, we do yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, your squeeze, and then mine, yeah, mine, yeah, it's tourist season, baby, it's tourist season. It really is, I can feel it, even though some stupid shit happens. Oh, let me tell you, last night I don't play the lottery at all ever, but last night I got a $10. They have those like those scratches that come out on a paper but they're like already like scratched off. They're called like fast plays, like they just print out already like revealed, you know, and you just look at it real quick and you just throw it away. I got one and I won. I think it was like I think I won my $10 back and I got another one, nice.
Speaker 2:And then I won.
Speaker 1:Uh, I think it's like I think I won my ten dollars back and I got another one and then I went and then I won 20 bucks. Wow, it's like oh shit. And then. So I gave it to the clerk and I said, hey, can you redeem this 20 bucks? And he said, no, it's actually 40 bucks. I was like, oh my god, cool. Yeah, yeah, thank you. I'd never play lottery. So I felt pretty, uh pretty, accomplished. I felt like a winner, yeah but I spent that shit okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, 40 dollars is nothing, but still off of 10 bucks that's the other day.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like, whatever I spent that shit, I'll call it though.
Speaker 2:Yeah, 40 is nothing but still off of 10 bucks. That's pretty good yeah, yeah, not bad if you never play yeah that's like me I I don't ever play the lottery either I always lose, yeah, always lose, and when I do, it's like two bucks max and I could go all day feeling good, feeling lucky, and I'm like you know what?
Speaker 1:it's six o'clock. I was good all day. I'm gonna buy me a scratcher. I fill it in my bones, yeah. And then you get a scratcher and you win nothing. And then you're like, well, there's my day. Yeah, all fucked over thanks to the fucking lottery exactly.
Speaker 2:And then you're like damn, I lost out. I could have bought me a meal with that or something exactly that's.
Speaker 1:That's what goes through my mind too, like what could I have bought besides that 40 bucks? You know, I could have bought a lot. I could have bought a gas, a gas tank or whatever. Yeah, but yeah. So I play the lottery very lightly, very lightly.
Speaker 2:And I'm glad you won though. Me too so it's a lucky week, maybe.
Speaker 1:I hope so. It is tourist season yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God.
Speaker 1:It just comes at you. That's how bulls are. They come at you and they trample anything in their way.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:That's what a Taurus is. That's what I am. I see a goal and I go right toward it.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I see that red, that red cloth thing and I just stampede who cares? In my way.
Speaker 2:You get trampled. You're wearing red too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I guess I got the memo. Yeah, it is tourist season, but yeah it is.
Speaker 2:That's probably why I'm feeling drained Dealing with all this testosterone full energy.
Speaker 1:Probably Something's in the air.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's all good, it's all good, we'll get through it.
Speaker 1:Good, yeah, we'll get through it. Awesome, awesome, cool, well, let awesome, awesome, cool. Well, let's get right into it. Yeah, I want to talk to you. I want to talk to you about the thunderbolts movie that's coming out. It's coming out on this friday, which is going to be the second, but normally they release movies the day before. So on the first, on my birthday, I'm going to go to the theater and watch this damn movie. This movie is important because it's the last movie in the marvel phase five movie era. Whatever, there's usually three phases okay in each um saga infinity.
Speaker 1:The infinity war saga had three phases one, two and three, and then they ended that and they started with the multiverse saga, which is for five and six. Five is just ending with thunderbolts oh, oh wow.
Speaker 1:And it starts again. Phase 6 starts again on July with Fantastic Four, but we'll get more into that later on. Okay, but right now we're just talking about Thunderbolts. It's going to be a crazy ass movie. It's the first team up movie since the Infinity War movie came out or the Endgame Avengers Endgame came out so it's the first team up um a lot of surprises.
Speaker 1:I'm really excited. I'm excited to see this movie. I really am. I really am um uh they. I've been reading some of the early reviews and they have been saying that this movie goes like it's. It's really good, because the last few movies that marvel had done weren't, weren't really good. They felt rushed, like captain america felt rushed um miss uh, captain marvel 2 was rushed um. A lot of movies were rushed. Quantum mania was rushed and uh, they kind of got a lot of backlash from that oh wow.
Speaker 1:So in 2024, they just released one movie instead of their usual four, because they're like you know what? Slow this shit down. You're doing way too much. This is a lot of superhero shit. You need to calm the fuck down yeah and just release one movie.
Speaker 1:So in 2024 it was just one movie oh okay, now we're getting back into getting the bar rolling again. Oh good, with these, with these Marvel movies, nice, make sense, yeah. But yeah, the reviews are really good. They say it captures Marvel's old feeling that they had back in the day with the first Iron man movies and the first Captain America movies those action, good movies.
Speaker 2:Right. So more of like the classics, they want to capture that and bring that back.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure, because it has been a little oversaturated with superheroes lately. Oh, okay, because once, like back in like a couple of years ago, it was to the point where Marvel was releasing four movies and four shows in one year. Oh, wow. So every month it was like something coming out and it's like, wow, this is a lot. This is a lot. There's a lot of stuff, but with me, I like to watch these shows and movies because they all take place in one singular timeline and one singular universe.
Speaker 2:So it's kind of like, yeah, I'm going to have to definitely catch up on these movies.
Speaker 1:It's exciting.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've watched some, but I have no idea. I don't think I've watched Captain America, honestly.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:How sad.
Speaker 1:It's okay. Yeah, it's okay. There's a lot.
Speaker 2:I'll have to. Yeah, catch up. For sure there's a lot. It might take me a while, yeah.
Speaker 1:The time to catch up is now. Yeah, because, like I said, it's the last movie for Phase 6,. We have Fantastic Four, avengers, secret Wars and Avengers Doomsday. Those are the only three titles that they have so far. There's supposed to be two more slots open and it could either be a Thor movie or it could be a Doctor Strange movie. Well, we don't know yet. Yeah, it just depends how the story goes, because now that the multiverse is falling apart, you know, things are getting pretty shaky that the multiverse is falling apart, you know things are getting pretty shaky, right, okay, um yeah, okay, cool, but that's why I'm excited to that movie, erica, this thursday.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna go, I don't care and that's cool because it's like that's a nice, uh, a nice way to spend your birthday. Heck, yeah, it is like a heck, yeah it is. Yeah, that's gonna be cool I love these movies.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I. It's so relaxing. It's so relaxing to just walk into a theater by yourself and just watch a movie Movies like they're bugging you.
Speaker 2:Like what? Because if you were to go with me, you would probably back at me Because like, oh, what, like what does that mean? You know what I mean. So yeah, please don't. We'll never go to the movies together. No, we've gone before, because we used to watch movies. I used to always take you to Harry.
Speaker 1:Potter To Harry Potter.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when you were younger, and I don't think I was that annoying. No, Sometimes, I yeah, that was a long time ago, but now, yeah, makes sense. I don't like to go to a movie and they're just asking a bunch of questions. I'm like just watch the damn movie Just watch it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, so I'm excited, so you'll have to let me know. Yeah, we should definitely go see it at some point. I'll go see it again, right, even if we take the family or whatever. It's going to be fun. But, yeah, do Thunderbolts this Thursday.
Speaker 2:Nice, I'm excited.
Speaker 1:I'm excited for a break. Let's take a break. Let's do it all righty. All right, erica. Let's talk about Cowboy Carter which, as we speak what time is it? It's like at 8 o'clock is when the show starts our time.
Speaker 2:Oh, wow.
Speaker 1:I'm excited for this, erica, you have no idea. You have no idea. Cowboy Carter by Beyonce, her second, her act, two album.
Speaker 2:So it's coming out today at 8 pm.
Speaker 1:The show starts today at 8 o'clock.
Speaker 2:The show.
Speaker 1:The show.
Speaker 2:Meaning like her tour.
Speaker 1:Her tour, the first show oh, okay, okay. The first show.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Yes, and her performance adrenaline. I don't think there's another artist out there that can perform like beyonce. I'm excited to see how she's going to portray these songs on stage, because some of them are really slow. It is a country album, so some of the songs are kind of slow and I'm wondering if she's gonna mix those tracks with, like earlier tracks, that bump a little harder just to get like the crowd jumping yeah, you know, I'm saying because you want yeah because you went.
Speaker 1:You went to renaissance with me and you see how the crowd was, but because the music, you know, everybody's jumping, everybody's having fun, everybody's just dancing.
Speaker 1:I was dancing, hell yeah, I was hype, I was, it's hyped yeah and it makes you wonder how do you, how she going to do that with these country songs? What I love about Beyonce is her like sexiness, like just to go up there and just show it and just do it. You know, just own it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, her confidence, and I think that's what gets with Beyonce. Yeah, that makes sense. But Cowboy Carter, we will definitely talk about that next week because I'm definitely going to talk about her, about the show, what she does. I can't really say anything now about it, but it's just that I'm excited and it's happening as we speak.
Speaker 2:That's cool.
Speaker 1:So I'm going to be checking in on that. Tell me, erica, when you were younger or whatever, did you ever watch Roseanne? Yeah, I did, yeah, yeah, I did, yeah, yeah, I did. That was one of my shows that I just would turn on, right, I think it was really funny. It was really funny because it was different. It was, I think Roseanne captured really the lower class family. Yeah, you know, which is what made this show different? Obviously, obviously, everybody knows that, but of course it didn't go for so long. You know, they ended the show. They won the lottery in the show and then they ended it. It was pretty much Roseanne's thing. She was the producer, obviously.
Speaker 2:Oh okay, I didn't know she was a producer, but I used to watch it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was a good show.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she was a producer, she created the characters, yeah, and that was a good show. It was like it takes you back. It's one of those shows that belongs in its era.
Speaker 1:Right Time you know what I'm saying. I'll still kind of watch it sometimes today, but very, very rarely, just like if it's on I'll laugh. Still, it's funny, it's funny stuff, yeah. But I don't know if you know this, but a few years ago I'm not sure when they started, but they did a revamp of the show again for ABC. I think it was in 2018 is when they revamped the show. They brought it back Roseanne, all the characters.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I do remember that.
Speaker 1:Roseanne, dan, jackie, all of them, laura Metcalf, everybody. Okay, darlene Sarah, both Sarahs. So it was a pretty big event. It was a pretty big deal for me because I appreciate those revivals Right, Especially when they bring it back in the same state that it was before. Like Roseanne, it was in the house in the same house, same bedroom, same kitchen, same workplace, and they brought it all back in 2018. Same same set, same people, same attitude yes.
Speaker 1:I'm saying and that's why I loved it, because it was like, okay, here I am 30 some years old watching Roseanne still a new episode like it's, it's nice, it's cool. It's like, wow, this is around when I was younger and now it's still here. It's just it's that little like nostalgia, like cool. I can't believe it's nice, it's cool. It's like, wow, this is around when I was younger and now it's still here. It's just, it's that little like nostalgia, like cool. I can't believe it's still soaring today.
Speaker 2:It's still going, yeah, it's still going. It's refreshing, yeah.
Speaker 1:Or they, like you know they continue this. So it kind of feels like it's still going, but it's not. But after one season, roseanne reboot. Roseanne, the actual Roseanne in our world. She took to Twitter and she made a racist comment about uh, some representative, some oh politic, right, I remember she called her a monkey, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:And that like an hour later, abc was like nope, that's not gonna fly and they canceled the show. I, I was like I watched it happen live. I was like on the toilet, like I seen it, like, oh my god, they canceled it like right after they canceled the show right after yeah, like no tolerance whatsoever, like nothing.
Speaker 1:They didn't give her like a chance to like redeem herself, to apologize. They just said your show is done, yeah, done. Can you imagine, I know? Can you imagine, by one, having a successful show in the 90s go for so many, like eight years, coming back 10 years later or 20 years later? Whatever you're the star of the show, this is your show. This is roseanne right and then they just abc just done, nope, sorry yeah so I think she should have thought about it before she exactly said anything you know, especially when you went that far.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and yeah, being who she is, rosanna, you know she's gonna say shit like that, right, um, but they got the show canceled. And then the rest of the cast john goodman, laura, mercaf, barley and sarah they were like this isn't fair. Even the little boy came back like this isn't fair, like you. The little boy came back Like this isn't fair, like you canceled our show. They were all happy to come back. The first season was great. It was great, it was nice. It was Roseanne, roseanne and they canceled it. And so the rest of the cast is like what Fucked up? Yeah, look what you did to our show. Like this is our show.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is our job, this is how we're getting paid.
Speaker 1:Right, and not only that, but that's like the main cast, that's the original cast there that you're dealing with. So ABC was like you know what. Well, do your own thing, just don't have Roseanne in it. So have a new show called the Conners and do your thing.
Speaker 2:Oh wow.
Speaker 1:So they continued the show for I think it was seven years, no 18, 19, 20. About seven years, about seven seasons? Oh wow, they had just did the season, the series finale this week. They, yeah, they just ended the show. I didn't watch it yeah, I haven't.
Speaker 2:I heard about it, but I haven't watched it either.
Speaker 1:I, I gotta definitely watch it. I should have. I don't know, I didn't, I was just you know. Yeah, but it's nice. It's nice. Um, speaking of revivals, did you ever watch? Um, that's all raven.
Speaker 2:That was after your time yeah, it was after my time, but I did watch a couple shows because my younger my brother and my sister so I think my sister would watch that. But yeah, I do do remember a little do you?
Speaker 1:are you familiar with disney channel?
Speaker 2:yes, like.
Speaker 1:Like the shows, like Lisa McGuire, even Stevens.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Those are the older ones, but the ones that came after that was like that's so, raven Hannah.
Speaker 2:Montana. Yeah, hannah Montana. There was the other one, icarly iCarly.
Speaker 1:Icarly was a little later, and that was.
Speaker 2:Nickelodeon. Oh, I see, okay.
Speaker 1:But that's so Raven.
Speaker 2:Have you seen it though? Right, yeah, you know who raven is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she played um on the cosby show yeah, she was the daughter which I don't remember because I didn't watch that show, because I watched the cosby show growing up.
Speaker 2:That's more my time, so yeah I like that.
Speaker 1:That's our general. That shows our generational differences, right, because we we do come from different times, so you didn't really watch that, so raven no, I mean I've seen it.
Speaker 2:I maybe watched like a couple episodes, but I wasn't like glued to the tv like I was when you know I was watching family matters growing up or tgis yeah you know elf all those watch full house, full house, that was in. I don't know if you remember TGIF. It came on every Friday.
Speaker 1:I remember TGNY.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I remember that too, the store not the shows but yeah, so TGIF. Um, I looked forward to that every Friday, cause we'd get like pizza my mom would buy pizza and like popcorn, my popcorn popcorn, and my brother's sister and I would sit there and just watch the shows and it was like family matters. Full house, um what else?
Speaker 1:wasn't it nice yeah, it was a nice back then to just sit down and wait for a program to start.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when you know it's gonna start at nine, you'll be there at nine yes, and we were like there, there on time and on the, you showed up. Yeah, you showed up, showed up. That's how, that's how. That's how it was back then and I miss it.
Speaker 1:I'm glad I was there for a little there there One time.
Speaker 2:You showed up? Yeah, you showed up. Showed up just for the show.
Speaker 1:That's how it was back then and I miss it. I'm glad I was there for a little part of it, Because I would yeah, I would Like oh my God, there's a new Disney Channel original movie coming on this Friday. I'm going to be there, I'm going to be there.
Speaker 2:Yes, disney Channel like. I love Disney, but my mom never. You had to pay for it back then like a subscription.
Speaker 1:Oh really.
Speaker 2:And supposedly it was expensive. So we didn't get that, but it would come on free at times, like during I don't know, like for.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, like a promotion, like, free, yeah, for like three days a week, whatever, and during that time I took full advantage and I would watch the shows that were on Disney Channel. So I loved it. But my mom never subscribed, so I was a bummer yeah but I do remember, like all the shows, because when I had kids and they would watch him like it was already part of the TV program yeah so it was already integrated, and so I mean there was no extra charges, so of course they got to watch all their shows.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I miss those days. I miss those days. I don't. I'm not sure I agree with this whole streaming thing. It's different. There's so many services and there's just like I don't think shows get the appropriate attention that they need yeah, that they deserve yeah, which leads me back to lasso raven okay I love it, perfect. So that's a raven, erica. I was hooked the first episode. I remember the first episode when it premiered, but that episode sold me from there on out. That's a raven, it was just like consistent, important like important because this national is hilarious, hilarious yeah erica.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, you have to watch it like an episode, right, yeah, she can see into the future like visions.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah yeah, she's seen the future and she always tries to like prevent it or whatever or whatever, but whatever, um, and it ended after like four, five years. That was the first disney channel show to surpass three seasons, because normally they give shows three seasons only and then you're done. They brought back the show about the same time as rave. Uh, rosanne came out about 2018. Okay, they brought the show back. That's a raven. Raven came back. Some of the cast not all of them but of course, they had her grow up. She has Her kid is psychic and it's just about him kind of. But Raven is still kind of in the show and I watch because of Raven. I ain't trying to watch nobody's kid, have you know.
Speaker 1:Visions or whatever you make revivals, you make revivals for the older audience that used to watch the show. Yes, you know it's not for kids, it's for the adults that missed it, missed this shit right exactly yes uh.
Speaker 1:But like you said before, erica, like in this new era of streaming, I don't think shows get the proper viewership that they would have gone back then yeah it didn't do so well, they tried their best and then, before they're gonna pull the plug, ra said let's get the old set back, let's get the old characters back. And they did. The parents came back, the friends came back, they got the old house back, the old kitchen.
Speaker 1:The old workplace, everything was back and I have that feeling again Like this is perfect. I love this. I'm 37 years old watching my favorite show, and it's a new episode that just came out last week and it's my favorite characters. I love this, I love. I'm never gonna grow up again, you know. And then, um, of course, that show got canceled too, because it didn't do. It just didn't do good, it didn't get the viewership, but it was so good though. Yeah, like it. It captured the old episode essence that they had back then, the old comedy. It was there.
Speaker 2:Right. But, Just the audience wasn't. No, there you go.
Speaker 1:The comedy was there, but the audience wasn't Right. There you go. That's a bummer.
Speaker 2:It is a bummer. Especially when you really like a show.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:I was heartbroken when Saved by the Bell ended.
Speaker 1:Oh, really, that was my oh yeah, see, I was like before my time yeah, like that was.
Speaker 1:If they were to do a new, new one, I would probably be hooked see, and if they did, they're gonna be like it's been the cast back, let's, but let's change everything. And I'm saying like they would just like find a way to just make it not. There was this online somewhere. Somebody made this Mount Rushmore of Disney Channel stars. Do you know what Mount Rushmore is? Yeah, right, they. They made him now. So me too. They made him now Rushmore of the Disney Channel. Stars of the Disney Channel. I think we've seen that.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah first one was um Thassil Raven, okay, which I agree with. That's, of course, of course. Next one was um selena gomez, and then there was, and there was one more other one, I can't remember who it was. There you go, okay, that bitch, montana, that bitch, okay. And I was like what is this so dumb? Yeah, I agree with raven, I agree with selena, I agree with uhiley, but for some reason, I don't know why, but they had Zendaya on that Mount Rushmore, and I don't agree with that. I don't know what show did, she do.
Speaker 1:I don't know. She did one show called Shake it Up, but that came out like way, way, way later. Yeah, like a couple, a few years ago. Yeah, because Zendaya looks the same, the same, the same. But Zendaya no. You know that's disrespectful. Yeah, you know to who it is respectful toward.
Speaker 2:To who?
Speaker 1:Hilary Duff, lizzie McGuire, she's like she's been the first one on there, the first one on there. Why opt to put Zendaya on there over hillary duff? I don't, I don't understand that.
Speaker 2:That's disrespectful yeah, because I don't even remember zendaya being on disney I don't you mean either, I never seen her. I remember I know her from spider man. Maybe that's about it, that's all.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, disney, yeah, no disney at all no, no.
Speaker 2:And Hannah Montana Lizzie McGuire. Those are not my. I remember them because my daughter loved Hannah Montana. But yeah, no Zendaya.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, zendaya, I want to. Yeah, somebody's kid made that one. Yeah, somebody's kid that was born 2005 and later made that. And that's just.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Don't make sense that, yeah, and that's just yeah. Don't make sense.
Speaker 1:Wild. Yeah, no kind of sense. No kind of sense. Right on Cool. Well, I think that that's about for today. I think that we did. I think we did good. Yeah, yeah, you think good.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Alrighty, awesome, awesome, awesome. Well, that was kind of like a half. I mean, I don't know if I like that was, that was okay, that was good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I didn't really have anything like written down specifically, I just had like these like main points just main points and I wanted to trust myself to just like talk about it without getting off off topic, like last time. Yeah, you know, because that was a mess, yeah, everything. But there are some things on here still that I haven't gotten to yet, which I'm going to do next week Sounds good. But okay, erica, thanks for listening to me. Yeah, thank you no problem. Thank you, I will see you next week, yeah.
Speaker 2:See you soon. Yeah, all right, bye-bye, bye, thank you.