MediHelpz Live w/Sandra L Washington

Women's Mental Health for Entrepreneurs

Sandra Season 1 Episode 4

The intersection of health challenges and entrepreneurship creates a unique battleground for women business owners. While we excel at multitasking and presenting a polished exterior, many of us suffer silently under the weight of competing demands on our time, energy, and resources. This candid conversation explores how health issues—from chronic conditions to mental health struggles—directly impact our ability to build and sustain successful businesses.

When perfectionism meets health limitations, we often delay launching or scaling our ventures, waiting for ideal conditions that rarely materialize. Financial constraints force impossible choices between healthcare access and business investment, with many women remaining in traditional employment solely for insurance benefits. Meanwhile, encounters with healthcare systems that dismiss or misdiagnose our concerns create additional obstacles that drain precious resources.

Beyond physical health, the entrepreneurial journey significantly impacts our mental wellbeing. Depression and anxiety don't just affect personal happiness—they influence critical business decisions, creative thinking, and relationship-building abilities essential for success. For women entrepreneurs juggling health challenges, boundary-setting becomes not just a personal skill but a business imperative.

Throughout this powerful discussion, we uncover practical strategies for navigating these complex challenges. From carefully selecting supportive communities to prioritizing self-care and spiritual foundations, we explore how women entrepreneurs can build businesses that enhance rather than deplete wellbeing. The message becomes clear: sustainable entrepreneurship requires acknowledging that your business cannot thrive if you don't survive.

Ready to transform how you approach health and business? Join this essential conversation about what it truly takes to build a successful venture while honoring your wellbeing as a woman entrepreneur.

Speaker 1:

Thank you very much. Good day, everyone, and thank you once again for joining in and speaking with Sandra L. As always, I have a dynamic senior subject matter expert and she's going to come to us and she's going to tell us all about herself. But before she tells us all about herself, what I do want to say is I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but May is Women's Health Month, so we, as women, we need to actually take some time. It's the 27th. If we haven't already did a self-care day during this month, we need to take some time and do a self-care day, because, after all, this month is for us.

Speaker 1:

This is Women's Health Month, and it's a month in which we need to recognize how strong we are and what power do we bring to the table. What, what is our role in all of this? Not, you know, not in our community's lives or not in our family's lives, but in our own lives. Are we showing up for us? Are we showing up for each and every one of us? And sometimes, unfortunately, that answer is no. That answer is no.

Speaker 1:

So today, our beloved speaker is going to tell us all about why we as women, especially women entrepreneurs we live a you know, a life that sometimes stresses us out and causes things is anxiety, and actually, on the other side of stressing us out and anxiety comes that depressed part, and we become depressed because we, as women, are extremely hard on ourselves when we shouldn't be so at what point in time are we going to take the time to step back and do a woosah so that we can understand exactly what our role is individually in all of this, so that we can move forward with a better understanding of ourselves? So I am now going to introduce our loving speaker and our panelists for today and say thank you, thank you, thank you for taking time today to speak with us and share some information that you have. Soraya, am I saying that correct?

Speaker 2:

Yes, you are.

Speaker 1:

Soraya Christine Woods. Thank you so much again. I am going to go ahead and start with my first question, which is how do you think problems related to women's health affect women who want to start their own business?

Speaker 2:

So first let me say thank you for having me. It's such a pleasure to be here. And also, I want to say really quick before I answer your question, in addition to Women's Health Month, it's also mental health awareness month, so those two things always go hand in hand for me, especially because, as women, we tend to carry so much right, and so that's actually a part of my first answer. Like, we carry so much, you know, and that proves to be a problem sometimes, because we carry it well right, we look good, we smell good, our hairs are nailed, everything is good, the eyelashes, everything is looking fabulous right, but on the inside we're suffering because we're carrying so much, and oftentimes we're carrying it in silence. So we're trying to build these businesses while we're still trying to carry the weight of the world on our shoulders. So that's one of the problems.

Speaker 2:

I think another problem for us is the perfectionism in that right, because we're women and we're so good at multitasking and we're so good and we want everything to be excellent and we want everything to be perfect.

Speaker 2:

Every I dotted, every T crossed be excellent, and we want everything to be perfect, every I dotted, every T crossed. And on top of that we're dealing with health issues, and so I think that that plays a big part in why we one especially slow start or lack starting our businesses, because we want everything to be perfect instead of just starting. But some of the other main issues to me are financial challenges. Right, because if we're dealing with health issues especially, you know we have that that's taken a lot of time and a lot of money and a lot of energy a lot of times, and then we need money to start our businesses or to grow our businesses, and so oftentimes there is a disparity that happens between what we need to do, you know, to take care of ourselves in our homes, versus the business that we may want to start, you know. And then you add to that time and energy.

Speaker 1:

Time and energy you know, you know, like me, like if I could just take myself and split like my front from my back and my side and sent each to a different place, I still there, still wouldn't be enough time in the day.

Speaker 2:

It's not, it's not because you still gotta sleep, you still gotta eat. A lot of us have kids we gotta take care of. Some of us are trying to be entrepreneurs and work a regular job, and you know, and it wives, and it goes on and on and it's like good. Some of us are in school on top of that, you know, and it's just, it wives. And it goes on and on and it's like good, some of us are in school on top of that, you know, and it's just, it's a lot. So it's very difficult to put the time and energy and don't add to that having a health issue Right.

Speaker 3:

Right, exactly.

Speaker 2:

Not. You know that takes a lot out of us, depending on what the health issue is, and it doesn't even have to be anything, you know, major. It doesn't have to be. You know, a lot of women suffer from autoimmune disorders and diseases, for instance, and you know, I know that takes a lot. I've seen people suffer, you know, with those.

Speaker 2:

But even something I don't want to say as simple as, but even something like, you know, migraines, that's something I suffer from, you know, and I don't have a migraine necessarily every day, but when one does sweep through, it knocks me on my butt, you know. And so, and it's just like what, what am I going to do, you know, that day? What am I truly going to get accomplished? And then, lastly, especially for women dealing with health issues, women already suffer different biases. To begin with, because we're women. Don't add to that being a woman of color. But if you then add to that, having health issues, there are a lot of conscious and unconscious biases that we have to deal with. You know just that come to limit resources and finances and different things from the people that we may need those things from. So that would be my answer to your question.

Speaker 1:

Thank you so much for that, and what I do want to say is this we, as women, in addition to doing all of that that we're doing crossing the T's, dotting the I's we tend to pick up everybody else's luggage when they drop it at our door.

Speaker 3:

Oh Lord.

Speaker 2:

We have our family issues.

Speaker 1:

We have our own issues, especially when it comes to health. And here comes Susie and Jodi and Johnny, and sometimes all three of them. And because we're women and because I'm thinking, because that's in our nature, instead of telling all three of them to look them your problems, you know what. I'm here to listen or whatever, but I'm not taking the responsibility of your problems on. I have my own problems. So we're helping everyone. But then we got to sit back sometimes and ask ourselves, as women we're helping everyone, but who's helping us? Yeah, we want to grow a business, we want to be an entrepreneur, we want this to work, but who is helping us? And unfortunately, sometimes we have blinders on right and we see what we, but then we want to act like we don't see right. It's the brightness on the wall, but we're not getting the right there.

Speaker 3:

So yeah.

Speaker 2:

I think that boils down to the fact that we're such nurturers by nature, right, right, and that makes it difficult for us to create and then stand on boundaries. And that's what that boils down to. We have to learn how to create and then stand on the boundaries that we create, and it's very difficult for us, as women, to do that, especially when you're an empath or you're a nurturer, and some of us. I want to say thank God, but some of us are not quite as nurturing as others so it's a little easier for us to create boundaries you know what and that and that.

Speaker 1:

Look, that is so true, because I tell people all the time, you create those boundaries and then you especially if you're a woman and you're trying to do an entrepreneur you're trying to do a business of your own. It's extremely important not only that you create those boundaries and that then, after you create them, you set them, but then you also respect those boundaries yourself that you have created and set, because if you don't create and set those boundaries and then respect your own boundaries, what do you think johnny, jody and sue gonna do when they need some help? Absolutely, and so your business is gonna and I've seen it happen too often your business is gonna go on a back burner and you're going to forever be trying to reach that entrepreneurial I've long since been doing good or really sustainable it.

Speaker 3:

You're going to forever reach that, you know. You mentioned something and I've thought about it because it's so true working full term, which is what I did for the past 15 years years and they're trying to build a business. It's extremely hard, like people will say. It didn't happen on health care. So I said how are you, how are you able to do that and you be doing everything. How do you think people, as women, as business owners, as people that celebrate health, they don't realize it?

Speaker 1:

And so we continue to struggle and I'm going to actually apologize for the audience because I'm being actually told that my audio is going in and out and I'm really not sure why. But we're going to keep going and hopefully people will be actually able to hear as much as I say. But, once again, me being a woman, me working full time, me have my own health challenges on In addition to building this business, is extremely, extremely hard. So for those of you that are like me, who are like well, right now I don't, because I retired from corporate life at the end of March to focus on building my business full time but for those of you who are like me, who are, who were like me, who are working full time and actually, you know, trying to build a business, what I have to say to you is this Watch your circle.

Speaker 1:

Be very, very careful about who you have in your circle, because all that you're going through, if the people in your circle ain't on the same level as you are, it's not going to work. You're going to be more drained than anything else. So just watch your circle as you're trying to build and you're trying to be a business, entrepreneur and whatever else you got going on in your life. Just please watch your circle. Would you say that watching your circle and surrounding yourself with positive people is a must for, I'm sorry, is a must for those who are women who are trying to build their business.

Speaker 2:

Oh, it's a non-negotiable. It's a non-negotiable you have to have the right people around you and sometimes it's going to take you getting hurt once or twice, right, because sometimes you're going to think that somebody is who you need around you, or you think that they're your friend, or you think you know that they're a good business partner and really they're a snake, they're a wolf in sheep's clothing, and so you may not know that right out the gate, until you've been taken, until you know you've been hurt in some way, and so you may have to go through those bumps and bruises. But you know, I would just say, you know, tap into your discernment and prayer, if that's your thing, because you know that those things will reveal. Typically, you know people who don't really have your best interest at heart, and you watch people because people drop little clues. They drop little clues about who they are and little things that they say, little things that they do.

Speaker 2:

Don't be, you know, like a lot of us typically are. Like you said earlier, we see the writing on the wall, but we don't really see the writing on the wall. You know, know, so don't be that person. You know, when it comes to creating the circle that you want? Yeah, and they will. Ms Jacqueline Cox put there, take your money and rob you in Jesus name, and they will.

Speaker 2:

You know, I've seen it happen and so you just got to be really mindful and I would even venture to say you know, keep your circle kind of small. You don't have to go crazy. You know you don't have to have 52 people in your camp. You know you don't have to. You don't have to operate like that. I've gone through cycles of people you know myself, and I don't feel any kind of way about it. But once you realize you know what a person's away about it. But once you realize you know what what a person's intentions truly are, whether they admit it or not, once you realize what their intentions are, it's up to you to create that, that boundary, and and step away or move differently.

Speaker 1:

Thank you so much for that, and that actually answered our question, which was number two. What special challenges do women have in this area? Is that we you know? Can you answer that just a little bit more on what special challenges women have in this area?

Speaker 2:

yeah, I think, um, special challenges, um, like even going back to, like the health concerns that we have, um, since that's kind of what we're talking about, some of them that I noted particularly are like gaps in insurance, right, especially for those that are entrepreneurs. So, like me, for instance, I would say that I'm a full time entrepreneur but I still work at part time job as well, but I don't get benefits from my part time job because I'm part time and I technically I'm not even part time on what they call per diem, which means on call, right, so I go when I'm needed, even part-time. I'm what they call per diem, which means on call right, so I go when I'm needed, so I don't get any benefits. So, as an entrepreneur, if I don't secure my own healthcare, I don't have healthcare, and for somebody who does have health challenges, that's a problem, right. So I think that is a unique problem that we face. I would say also for women, specifically workplace. I would say also for women specifically trying to build a business, while also in the background, dealing with things like misdiagnoses and delayed diagnoses and being dismissed and discarded altogether, because a lot of times when we go to our healthcare providers and we go and present these symptoms and they're like oh, you're fine, you know, take this, take this, literally. I'm gonna give you a quick example.

Speaker 2:

I was sick a couple of weeks ago and I knew what I needed. Because I know my body, I knew that I needed an antibiotic. The lady would not give me an antibiotic for nothing in the world. You know what she did force me to get, though, some cough medicine. I said, lady, I don't have a cough, oh, but you probably will, so take this cough medicine. And I'm like she literally is like not hearing me at all. And I'm like, I'm looking at her just like that, like where is the disconnect? Because I'm telling you what my symptoms are and I'm telling you what I need, and I'm telling you that I've dealt with this over and over again. So I know myself, I know I'm 50 years old, I've been with this body for a long time, I know what my body needs. You just met me two seconds ago. You don't know me, and I didn't leave there with my antibiotic, which made me angry.

Speaker 2:

But it's like they don't listen to us, especially when they don't look like us, and it's sad to say, but it's true, and so you know, I think those are unique challenges that we have to face, but also, um, our mental health ends up suffering, right, we end up suffering because now we're in our own heads like what in the world? So we have to deal with the depression and the anxiety and the things that come up, um, from dealing with these other issues. So it's like I hear women say all the time that I talk to, that want to be entrepreneurs and they want to be full-time entrepreneurs and they have what it takes, but they're like I got to stay at my job because I need healthcare. You know, and it's just it saddens my heart that that's where we are as a society. You know, and it's just it saddens my heart that that's where we are as a society.

Speaker 1:

You know, and it saddens my heart too, because what you just said is a it all centers around politics. Prior to this year, you could get. You could leave your job and get and become an entrepreneur, if that's really what you wanted. The push was for you to be able to do that, because you could go to the marketplace and you get insurance. Was it expensive? Yes, the marketplace is expensive. It's not expensive as expensive as a COBRA coverage is but it is expensive.

Speaker 1:

Well, now we got a new big, beautiful bill on the table that's going to take a lot of that back, that push that we had, that we could do this because, well, we could go anywhere and get insurance. Now we don't have that. Now we actually are facing a situation where, if the bill passes, we're faced with the situation that if you're between the ages of 18 and 64, you ain't getting you not getting medicaid unless you actually are looking for a job. So we gotta see how that looks like. Okay, I'm, I don't need to look for a job because I have a job, so do I still qualify or what can I get? So some of that stuff that's on the table right now is going to be pulled back, which is going to bring us even further back than where we was, and it's unfortunate because that's a special challenge, because we should be allowed to do, you know, to run our own businesses and do the things that we need to do. We should be able to do that.

Speaker 1:

Unfortunately we're not able to. You know, to run our own businesses and do the things that we need to do. We should be able to do that, unfortunately we're not able to. You know, we're facing a situation where we may not be able to do it, and so for those of you who are listening to today's video, at whatever point in time you're listening to and you have not taken the time to go and look at the healthcare challenges that are written into the big, beautiful bill, I suggest, once you listen to, after you listen to this very detailed and informative video, you take the time to go to look at that and see exactly what's in it and how it can help you or, for that matter, hurt you. So thank you for bringing that up, because that's a real, that's a special challenge in and of itself. Is that just this is what we're dealing with, right?

Speaker 2:

yeah, and I think um honestly at play here. I think that, um, with the current administration, there is a push to create more criminals, because all of them eat off of the criminal empire. All of them eat off of the criminal empire. All of them eat off of, well, the justice system, let's say that. So they all eat off of putting people behind bars.

Speaker 2:

That's a private industry where a lot of people make a lot of money, and so, if they start to cut all of these resources to the people that are on, you know, this side of the bar versus this side of the bar, they already know what that's going to look like. People on this side of the bar are going to resort to things potentially not all of us but it's going to create more people that are seeking other ways to get what it is that they need, and that's going to create more crime, which is going to create more people going into these systems where they make more money. So I think that there is, you know, a lot of deeper meaning behind these things that they're trying to do, and so we have to just be, you know, mindful of what's really going on, um, and look at things for what they really are and see past all the fluff that they try to present and and make the necessary adjustments.

Speaker 1:

You know to that right and you know what and and many people are listening may say, well, okay, well, what does that? Aren't they going off topic? What does that have to do with special challenges and women building businesses? It has everything to do with building businesses, because if you're building a business, I'm hoping you ain't gonna jump into it and trying to start a business. I'm hoping that you're actually taking a look back, reflecting okay, well, it's the idea like where am I going to be at with this idea in a year, in two years? Like how am I going to be able to spend what I'm working on so that my business is not just successful but sustainable? Right, and so we as women because we've done so, we've have taken everybody's luggage and piled it onto what we are already doing we as women, we don't get it. We don't look at everything that we should be looking at. So it's a special challenge in that you have to. It's a requirement of you and you should make it a requirement of you that this is your business. You're putting everything you have into your business. So to be able to be successful and be able to move forward, you gotta look at what.

Speaker 1:

What happened in. Like I tell patients all the time you need to proactive, active or reactive. Yeah, you are a business woman. Are you trying to become a business woman, right? What I need you to do is I need you to take some time today, not tomorrow, and today is whenever you're watching this. I need you to do is I need you to take some time today, not tomorrow, and today is whenever you're watching this. I need you to take some time today and go back and I told somebody this before and I actually had to do it Create a SWOT analysis, and don't just create it and put it on your shelf and say, well, it's done, right. Don't just do that like create a swat analysis every month. Take a look at that swat analysis to see where you are.

Speaker 1:

That's right I thank you so much for bringing that up as being a special challenge what I do want to actually ask you next is can you share an experience and you, just you actually, well, actually, can you share an experience and you just, well, actually, can you share an experience for you or for someone else that they had and they told you about, which actually directly impacted a health experience they had which actually directly impacted their business?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so I can talk about myself. I don't need to share anybody else's stories. I can talk about my own story because I have my own health challenges, and so I have suffered from depression and anxiety for a very long time. I also have diabetes and I suffer from migraines, and so all of those things impact me in one way or another. I used to get really severe anxiety attacks, and so that put me in the hospital because I thought I was dying, right, and so you know, those are things that I've had to deal with.

Speaker 2:

Right now I'm dealing with an issue that impacts my business. I go really hard in my businesses right now, but I'm also dealing with a health challenge with, like, my rib cage. That hurts all the time and we can't figure out why, and I've been dealing with this for a couple of years and no doctor can tell me what's wrong with me. I've had I found other issues in the process of trying to figure out what it is, um, but sometimes I can't sleep, so I have issues with running my business the next day Cause I haven't been to sleep the night before, so I have to move my schedule around sometimes because of it. Sometimes, like I said earlier, the migraine will come and knock me on my behind and I can't do anything. And I take my medication, but it only softens it a little bit, you know, and I've learned how to function with them. But sometimes I'll get one that won't even allow me to function, you know, and the prescription medications don't work. I have to take Excedrin and Ibuprofen for it together, like I haven't had that works. So there are things that I have to deal with.

Speaker 2:

Let's not talk about the depression. One of my businesses was started in the midst of depression and that's all glory to God, because I was ready to check out. Honestly, you know, and so you know, there's a lot of things that I've had to overcome to be able to even be at the level that I'm at now. You know, and I don't know what challenges are going to come for me to reach the next level, but I've had to endure some significant health health and physical and mental health challenges just to get where I'm at today. So it you know, I understand. You know as a woman, as a black woman and as a woman who suffers health challenges, exactly the difficulty that it takes to, you know, be an entrepreneur.

Speaker 1:

And you know and this is you know a little bit about what I write in my latest book, your Voice, your Tool is that, as a patient advocate and you as someone that's in health care, right, we go through challenges as a patient. Experience like that literally blows our minds and be like what the age is going on, like right, and so we, when we know that many people don't know how to use their voices and ask you know? Or speak up and say, hey, you know, that's not what I want to do, or this is hurting or this is bothering me. So we always soften the blow by not speaking up and not sharing our experiences.

Speaker 1:

There are there's someone out there today that needs to know that, yes, you may be challenged with a physical health challenge. You may be challenged with a mental health challenge. I actually believe in that. They're one category, because physical and mental are health. You don't get two separate health. Nothing, you have one health. They need to actually all be addressed and you shouldn't be ashamed of addressing it and saying, hey, well, you know what I'm building this business and it's causing me anxiety, or I'm being depressed by the fact that I'm not making any money, or I mean, open up, get yourself a support group, talk to a therapist Don't be afraid to, as you're going through this business building, to reach out to once again, watching your circle, who is that in your circle? Because they might be a trigger for you. Yep, getting you some therapy. Talking to a therapist and saying, hey, you know what? This is becoming really hard on me because I've reached this challenge and I just can't seem to get over it.

Speaker 1:

Get your spirituality, get your spirituality, get your spirituality, get your spirituality together, because without that spirituality piece and I don't care what religion you are, without that spirituality piece, you're lost. You're lost Everything that you're building. If you're building it without a firm spiritual foundation and once again, this has nothing to do with I'm a Catholic, I'm a Christian, I'm a whatever, I'm a boot it has nothing to do with it, it has everything to do with spirituality. Get your spirituality together when you're building a business, because if you don't, everything else is only gonna last for moment.

Speaker 1:

And so, as Soraya is getting ready to tell us what she's working on, what I want to make sure that you do as far as having an outstanding patient experience while you're building your business as a woman-owned business, is to ensure that you know that you should have your spirituality piece at the top, not in the middle, not squished in between some sound None of that. It needs to be at the top of your list when it comes down to you as a woman building a business. Speaking of which, ms Savoria, I'm going to let you go ahead and explain to us about the women's health conferences Well, not health conferences, but the women's conferences that you host, where you're hosting them at, and how people can get involved, and whether they want to, you know, give a donation, or whether they want to be a speaker or send in a gift or a raffle. How do they do all that wonderful stuff and tell us?

Speaker 2:

Thank you, and you were not far off right. So the conference is called the Women in Leadership Conference Tour, and women is an acronym which I don't reveal until I. So the conference is called the Women in Leadership Conference Tour, and women is an acronym which I don't reveal until I'm at the conference, so you got to be there to know what it means. But it's all about encouraging and empowering professional women to prioritize their mental health and self-care. So it's the totality of being a woman in leadership, and we all are, regardless of whether or not we carry a leadership title. It doesn't even matter. Even if we're a stay-at-home mom, we're still a leader because we're in our homes. It doesn't matter, right? And so the goal is to pour into them so that they can take something away that allows them to be a better, more balanced leader, and so that's the goal, and we've done this all around the country since 2023. They have all been absolutely incredible, and this year we are going to Alexandria, virginia. Next month, as a matter of fact, we will be in Alexandria, virginia, um, and September 20th we will be back where I live in Las Vegas, nevada, um. I actually bring it home every year, so this will be the third year in Las Vegas and then, um, in October, october 18th, we'll be in Portland, oregon. So those are the three that we have this year.

Speaker 2:

If you want, if you are in any of those places and want tickets, they're on Eventbrite. All you have to do is search up Women in Leadership, women in Leadership Conference, and it should pull up. And if you want to support, you can email me. It's a very long email so I'll give it to you, but it's Women Leadership Conference Tour Womenencetour womenleadershipconferencetour at gmailcom. Alternatively, just Google me, soraya Christine, I'm very Google-able, so you can find me pretty much anywhere.

Speaker 2:

If you want to donate a raffle or money because this does go through my nonprofit, which is called Lilac Women's Ministry also an acronym. That one, I can tell you, stands for Ladies Influencing Life-Altering Change that's what we set out to do, and so if you want to donate monetarily, you can donate to the nonprofit and I will give you a tax receipt so that you can use for tax purposes for your donation. If you want to donate, like I said, raffle gifts, just reach out to me and we'll figure out how to make that happen. If you want to be a speaker, same thing. Go ahead and send a message to this email right now.

Speaker 2:

For this year, we only have speaking slots left available for Portland. I have a couple of speaking slots left. The others are full, but we're also always looking for vendors as well in all locations. So right now we have vendor spaces available for Portland. I think I have two more for Alexandria as well. So if you're in the Northern Virginia area, we do still have a couple more vendor slots left for next month. Um, so just again email me.

Speaker 1:

Um, yeah, I mean, I think that's it, but we definitely could use all the support in whatever kind of fashion it comes and so I really do take want to take the time to say thank you so much and, as you was mentioning that information, we do have that information scrolled up at the bottom of the video, so people will see it. And this is the thing she just mentioned what she's doing in 2025. That should not stop you, especially if you're a woman in business, from actually saying and you might be, maybe you're not in one of those three places interest you in saying, hey, let me reach out to her, since she's doing a leadership conference. She's not doing one here this year, but there's always next year. We just got finished telling you you gotta look at what's going on now, what happened in the past, what's going on now and what can go on in the future. Maybe she's not planning on being in your state to do a conference, but that doesn't stop you from actually outreaching her and saying, hey, well, could you come and be a speaker and you two work that out.

Speaker 1:

Queens support Queens. Queens do not, you know, be up Queens when they're trying to do something. Queens support Queens. And that's a way of us supporting ourselves is by actually becoming. That's networking, it's business networking and we all need it. So, once again, even if she's not in your area in 2025, reach out to her and say hey, you know, I live here. Are you going to be here? Um, how can I get you to come here? And then you two work it out I love that.

Speaker 2:

Thank you so much for saying that. Absolutely, because we do need to build the 2026 schedule.

Speaker 1:

Right, and now's a perfect time. 2027 is, after that Look supposed to be working on a five-year plan 2027.

Speaker 2:

Keep going and growing, and that's the goal. That's the goal and ultimately, internationally, that's the ultimate goal.

Speaker 1:

So I appreciate that, and even if you're a tech, a woman in tech, and you're like I, like that idea that she's doing I know that she's only doing this in person how about I give her my in-kind donation of actually helping her host this, so that she could do this as a hybrid event? That is something that will push her and encourage her to keep going. And guess what? The best thing about that is that patient experience for her will be so much better, because a lot of the stuff that she's carrying she can be like. I got that all set up already. We have to help each other.

Speaker 1:

So before I close out, what I do want to say is this Remember, be kind always. It doesn't cost you not one red cent or a red penny to be kind. If you know someone that's in need, do what you can to help them out. I didn't tell you to take over. Do what you can to help them out. I didn't tell you to take over their problem. I said help them out, do what you can to assist them. It's free, it doesn't cost a thing. And guess what? If it does start costing you, that's when it's time for you to say let me back out, because this ain't my ballgame, and it's okay, it's really okay out because this ain't my ball game, and it's okay, it's really okay. So thank you, soraya, so much. Please enjoy the rest of your day, and you were wonderful guests.

Speaker 2:

Oh, thank you so much for having me. It's been my pleasure thank you have a good day, you too. Bye, thank you.