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The Hard Questions Pt 2

• Itsthemazoku and SwagSwitcha • Season 1 • Episode 5

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Wrestling's current landscape shows a stark contrast between WWE's compelling storylines and AEW's inconsistent weekly programming, though their pay-per-views still deliver exceptional quality.

• AEW Dynamite format criticism for front-loading good content but ending on weak notes
• Swerve Strickland segments highlighted as AEW's most engaging current content
• SmackDown continues to develop rich storylines heading into WrestleMania
• Paul Heyman's potential alignment with CM Punk parallels Cody Rhodes' prophetic promo about Roman losing everything
• Charlotte Flair and Tiffany Stratton's heated exchange fundamentally raises the stakes for their match
• Carmelo Hayes identified as deserving a significant push after WrestleMania
• Tiffany Stratton praised for balancing aesthetic appeal with legitimate wrestling skill
• Bobby Lashley's current character described as "super villain level" but needing bigger opportunities
• Wrestling origins discussion reveals how early memories shape long-term fandom
• Mount Rushmore of wrestlers from different eras suggested as future podcast topic


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Speaker 1:

hey guys, welcome back to another episode of the big brothers of destruction podcast, and this is an actual pod day with your boy. Well, no, I took his spot. I'm so sorry. I'm fucking up already.

Speaker 2:

It's the masako with an over this. It's your boy. Swag switch. Uh, it's the maza like swag switch in the building.

Speaker 1:

You guys got that that's what happens with your brothers, man. Sometimes you take little things from your brothers. You don't say take certain, the style, the vernacular, it happens, that's what happens with brothers. But either way, anyway, all right. So welcome back to the podcast. I mean, last time we were here we were going over specific questions that kind of go into our wrestling origin. Some of our favorite wrestlers are Mount Rushmore's and things of that nature, and we're going to continue on that same trend today. But before we get into that, man, the crazy world of wrestling this week, we got to talk about it, man, some insane stuff that happened on monday night. We already talked about that in the review. Okay, but the crazy things going on in aew smackdown and collision let's take a moment and talk about that.

Speaker 2:

Sw switch, what you got for me, what you see in the crazy world of wrestling this week so, honestly, when it comes to everything that's going on and to talk about aew, aew is getting ready for our pay-per-view. That is going to be happening, considering the time that we're recording this. It's happening today, aka sunday, so but it's like they've. They have only sparked my interest in this pay-per-view and that's a problem for me. Like it is some of the stuff going on, I I'm like okay, I'm kind of feeling it, but it's like they're not making me extremely excited. Now I will say AEW Dynamite they weren't bad, like, but the format of the show was weird to me. Like, I feel like they're. It's almost as if they was like hey, put all the good stuff in the beginning of the show and we're just gonna take a dump on the ending piece of the show. It was. It was weird because, like, we start off with Swerve and um, what's her name, goddamn?

Speaker 2:

Willow Nightingale yeah, so Swerve and Willow going up against uh Mox and.

Speaker 2:

Maria Sophia, excuse me so that's how we started off. Okay, which, that whole bit, I liked it like I would say all the bits with Swerve. Throughout that show fire. We start off with that freaking. Then swerve is all like after, after uh, he put the freaking paradigm shift on old girl. He's like now you crossed it, bro. Now I'm gonna have to hunt you down, I'm gonna have to beat your ass. And so swerve is although I wish they would have did more of like swerve actually going around trying to find moxley, because it was just they just showed hey, I'm gonna find you, mox, and it's gonna be on site. And the next time you see swerve it's him finally getting to moxley and it being on site and at the end of the show yeah, it was at the end of the show like I wish there would have been, like they did have one.

Speaker 2:

I wish they would have did more, but they only had one spot where you see Swerve going, walking through, but then he crosses paths with his mortal enemy which that I woke.

Speaker 1:

I fell asleep during the main event match because Colt versus um. I was going to say Kirsto, excuse me, castanoli.

Speaker 2:

Castanoli versus. I was going to say Kirsto, excuse me.

Speaker 1:

Castagnoli, castagnoli, castagnoli, claudio Castagnoli. I was watching that and I remember I passed out mid-match and then I woke up as I saw Swerve walking backstage looking for Mox and then they had that interaction which I was like, oh, I woke up just in time.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because everything else. It was fine to have missed that, because everything else was just like who cares?

Speaker 1:

even the Tony Storm match was not good. I was mad about that.

Speaker 2:

That took me by surprise how mmm and dry that was yeah, it was mad dry.

Speaker 1:

I was mad pissed and so, but it's like it's one of those things where it's like dry.

Speaker 2:

That was, yeah, it was mad dry. I was mad pissed and so, but it's like it's one of those things where it's like, out of everything that's happening on there right now, the fact that they did not make the Tony Storm situation a bit more than they could have, like the only thing that was worth talking about was the stuff with Swerve yeah, like even the stuff with the swerve yeah, like and even even the stuff with our, our, uh, our friendly neighborhood billy goat was like who cares?

Speaker 1:

I ain't gonna lie, though, that that double, that tag team match, though I will say I'm a bit of a fan of blake or christian. Now that guy, that guy was doing some good stuff I will.

Speaker 2:

I will say that they did. That did spark my interest and we didn't have another a fox situation where I'm like, oh, it's just a bunch of jobbers, it's cool, like, but but out of that, that's really the only thing that was really interesting not, even, not even the goon himself.

Speaker 2:

Oh, listen, the goon. Well, that's the other thing, though, because it's like, yes, it was nice that I saw him, but it was like there's really I don't know like he's just there, they're just like, hey, we're just gonna put you in a match, and but listen, I, and I feel it like I feel as if he's like been slowly getting into this new character thing that he's doing, because it's like, first it was like a jacket mask. Now he out there with the jacket max got the gold tooth, which I didn't peep that before. And then this last time, bro, that drip, oh, you came in there with a fail. My man out here, dreepy right now with this dope ass jacket, got the ski mask going like he had his freaking lock chain.

Speaker 1:

He got the John Cena lock chain bro, listen, he's like I'm a heel too.

Speaker 2:

Listen, brody the goon king, he is here to stay and I'm messing with it. And at this point I'm almost at the point where I'm like you know what, even if y'all ain't really doing anything great with him, just keep putting him on the TV for me at this point, because, he made me want to get a grill.

Speaker 2:

Listen, I wish he would come out there, put him on the tv for me at this point because he made me want to get a grill. You feel, listen, I wish he would come out there with the, with the, with some gold bottoms. It's done, it'll be done.

Speaker 1:

I've. I've already been this close multiple times. My wife is like yo, no, don't get a grill babe. And I'm like the black force, energy in me is calling. It needs to grill at some point. Not maybe the fool I thought about the fool but at least like the bottom with the fangs I do that I got some tops.

Speaker 2:

I don't think I've ever had bottoms, I've always had tops, but it's like the mold for them are. I have to like, redo the mold, yeah, but but going from oh going oh no, I was just going to say, but going from that relatively c show on dynamite collision, so they move's day, because normally Collision comes on Saturdays. Oh yeah, it's Sunday.

Speaker 1:

I'm sorry, Brain not brain, Brain not brain Collision.

Speaker 2:

Let me put it this way I had Collision on and I was watching it while doing clothes and I found myself paying more attention to the clothes than I was. Collision, like Collision was boring to me. It was. It was really boring and like it was boring and it was like it almost collision felt like sunday night heat before a pay-per-view. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, it did For me. Okay For me.

Speaker 1:

Which is zero hour for the pay-per-view, though, which is crazy.

Speaker 2:

Listen like because nothing really happened. That was like noteworthy. You know Like it was. And once again, I try really hard not to sound like a full on AEW hater and maybe it's just because I'm just used to a certain way of ingesting my wrestling. That's just not making AEW do it for me, but it's just like, ah, it's uh like I feel as if with with the way things are, like, I need to like find somebody that can also be in this podcast with us, that is like a aw elitist, like someone who isn't, who is all elite in aw, to be able to like counterbalance this, because, but the problem is I don't know any not even anybody from our group chat no, there used to be some when, when aw first started, my boy, modest mind and then I know our boy antonio was super was originally down with AEW, like they were both, but it was well said.

Speaker 2:

I know Antonio was more like AEW was a good thing and he was really boosting the ideas that they originally stood for. But over time he does not care about AEW anymore. I know modest mind he messes with AEW still to a certain degree but he does not sing the song of praises of AEW like he used to. Now I know our boy LX. He likes AEW. However, he also understands and he sees the glaring problems. However, he also understands and he sees the glaring problems.

Speaker 1:

He's just, he just does not he tries hard not to hate on them as where I just let it out, no frustration, I get it. No, I get it. I want I get it because I was one of those big AEW like preaching the Gospels and all that kind of stuff. But as time has grown like it's just certain people that's like you should have pushed them already. You should have did this, should have did that. As uh, luke and adam say on uh wrestle talk, it should have been penta, it always should be penta. And I'm just saying, bro, when he was in aew should have been him.

Speaker 1:

But in wwe now you know, obviously he'll get the anaconda title at some point. I'm happy about that, I don't. And then ray. I definitely want to talk about ray phoenix's debut in a bit. God damn. Um, when it comes to just a everything aw man, it just it was once a area where there was so many great things happening. You had a lot of freedoms, and those freedoms are now taken away. It's not the way it used to be and the product is not what it used to be.

Speaker 1:

It's pretty much just the b product, and I dare say oh, I'll let you finish, go ahead no, I was gonna say, I was gonna say it was the b product and I dare say now it might be the C product, the TNA, because TNA is becoming the B product right now. That's just, that's just from. That's just from what I'm hearing in the grapevine. People are not really enjoying AEW like they used to and TNA, apparently, is red hot right now. Tna is just booming.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we love ourselves with TNA is red hot right now. Tna is just booming. Yeah, we love ourselves with TNA, which is good. Yeah, no, oh, the thing I was about to ask. I was like, do you? Because I know you said you know the thing about Penta. I was like do you think if they would have used Penta to help put it more on the map, something different might have come of it?

Speaker 1:

not fully. I don't think he would be the backbone of aew, like how you know. Obviously in lucha underground he was completely the backbone once he got that belt, like boom. But I feel like more eyes would enjoy the product, mainly because penta a lot of people, a lot of fans of wrestling do like authentic and cool characters. There's no way you can't look at penta and say that's a cool fucking character. I want to see what he does right. So I feel like it would have got more eyes on the product.

Speaker 1:

Now, him being a great champion I'm not saying he'd be a great champion, but he would. He would be something that would get people kind of locked in and engaged because anytime he's ever in the ring, anytime he ever does this, the audience is with it. So he's automatically over, no matter where he goes, because he just looks fucking cool. Put the belt on somebody that looks fucking cool or gets people engaged. That's kind of always been a thing I thought. But some people nowadays feel like don't put the belt on somebody, um, that's already over, because the belt it normally. You're doing it to elevate the belt, not the person. The person's already hype, person's already everything.

Speaker 2:

We don't need to yeah, I feel as if that some people like some people's views on like how the belts work and do things, I feel is has kind of sort of been lost translation. But, going to one of the things that you did slightly mention, when it comes to aew and the way that they worked, there's a part of me that feels as if the freedom that they started off with to a small bit might have been to their undo.

Speaker 2:

It was unfortunately but I know you were, because you did bring up about Penta's brother though, because on Smackdown, smackdown, penta's brother, though, cause on smackdown, smackdown. You might want to try that again. It didn't come through too clean, that's better.

Speaker 1:

I did a high page last time yeah, it was too high.

Speaker 2:

It peaked a little bit, but it got the point across. But Smackdown, on the other hand, you know once again firing on all cylinders and there in Smackdown it feels more organized. There's the stories right now and their progression towards Wrestlemania. I'm curious to know what's about what's going on, like the thing with kevin owens. I'm like I don't know what's happening. Am I being worked? Is this a shoot?

Speaker 1:

that's what I felt the whole freaking time. Bro, I'm not lying I'm over here.

Speaker 2:

I'm like, is he gonna mark henry us?

Speaker 1:

no, no, so I'm just well I thought the angle was he was trying to run away from a fight from randy orton. So I was like that sounds like a cowardly thing to do and he doesn't want to deal with them. But then you find out, no, it's actually a serious injury, like he's apparently been feeling this for the last four months, and I was like, oh oh, so this is real fuck. And so Orton not going to Mania fuck.

Speaker 2:

I was very at this point, but it's like is he? Is he, though, like I? I don't know they, they're doing the thing they never know as they say, suspended my belief. Now I'm just like well, is KO actually going to be okay? That part I'm worried about is he actually? Is he actually hurt? There's a part of me that feels like nah man, ko's just doing this as a ruse, he's going gonna fuck Randy, no pause so if that's the case, how do you think?

Speaker 1:

okay, if you think it's a ruse, you think it's a shoot, right, how do you think he performs it? Cause, like, obviously Orton shouldn't be at Mania, so like, then, what should Orton be be at mania? So like, then, what should Orton be doing at mania? That would cost the match.

Speaker 2:

Bam, I don't even know Like exactly. But but there's I, there's a part of me that feels that like he's feigning this, but but then there was a part of me that feels like it might be fake. But then it's like the fact that Nick Oldis is also involved and he brought him out there and didn't like, and if it is real, then damn, what is Randy Orton about to do nothing? Ain't no way.

Speaker 1:

ain't no way he might be in an opening match. He might be in an opening match like a battle royale, some shit and do a couple RKOs that would be dumb but what else can he do? You can't literally put him in a match with somebody with no story immediately see.

Speaker 2:

that's the problem. I don't know and, unlike AEW, I want to watch SmackDown to find out what's going to happen next.

Speaker 1:

You know what? Actually they probably could do this because they were doing this at one point for a minute, but the thing about it is he's now connected to another wrestler. So there was a point in time I think Carmelo Hayes was kind of battling it a little bit with Orton. They did a couple of matches together. So maybe maybe there is a way you can kind of rekindle that feud. But it would put Carmelo in a high pedestal and I could see Miz being his manager going down the ramp at Mania.

Speaker 1:

Maybe that is a thought that's my disc at Larry. Right there, that is my disc at Larry. If you're going to put Orton in the show and put him against anybody somebody we already know he has good chemistry with, he's had a couple of matches with and I wouldn't say they're red hot, but I feel like it could elevate him because after mania they've already talked about elevating carmelo hayes what better way is putting on fucking mania against orton?

Speaker 2:

I mean there is that. I mean at that point we'll have to see next week, yes, yes, but, um, go home. Every, everything else that's happening on smack Like, cause there was so much good on SmackDown, the whole deal with Naomi and Jade and stuff like that, that was. That's getting better and better, and I'm now just ready for them to throw hands. I'm now the thing with Paul Heyman. It's seeing punk. Okay, so in the beginning punk was out there doing his thing and or actually, no, yeah, dunk was out there and talking to stuff, but then Paul Heyman's all like hey, he comes out. He's like hey, punk, I did so what's you said last week that that wasn't a favor. What's the favor? And Punk's like I'll tell you, but I want to tell your tribal chief as well. Right, okay. And so at the very end and I believe it was you who sent me the video, because someone else made that connection about them years ago when Paul Hamill was all like you're going to be in the main event and I'm going to be there with you.

Speaker 1:

I even said it. I said the favor is him. I said watch the favor. And I felt like it was stupid. At first I said watch the fucking favor, be him going down the ramp with him at mania. But I was like I don't think, maybe they'll do that. I feel like it's something else, like maybe. But I was like at first I was like, okay, maybe it could be that. But then the second I was like, okay, maybe roman gets the title. But I'm like, but then that would make sense, so it has to be he. Go down the ramp with him at mania. I remember saying that. I don't think I said it on the pod. I remember saying that to you yes, you did.

Speaker 2:

And then you all, you even found that video that I think I reshared on our facebook page about that. And then, lo and behold, this is exactly what it is now. The funny part to me is the fact that um, because I also saw something out. There was two other things I saw, but the first thing is that seth rons was all like hey yo, you do realize that this is going to bite you in the butt doing all of this. You should let me take out punk.

Speaker 2:

And then this happens, and seth ron's all like what I tell you, buddy, oh look what happened. Now you got bit by the snake. You should have let me take it out. But now these are the actions of your repercussions and stuff like you. And so that happens. And I'm surprised because, like, he's like, tell him that, that ain't going down. He's like I'm sorry, my tribal chief, but I can't tell him that, and it's like. And then this fast forwards to something else that I think I also shared, where someone made the point that c Rhodes told Roman Reigns his future. Cody Rhodes, in a promo, before he took the belt from him, said that you're going to lose your family. Everyone's going to betray you. Your wise man is going to become an advocate again and you're going to be the tribal chief of nothing to even add on to that, even to add on that, there's even a promo.

Speaker 1:

When he was inducting uh hayman in the hall of fame, he even said the day he's not with his white man, he's done.

Speaker 2:

He even said that, and so now the sad reality is that our tribal chief, as Cody Rhodes said, cody Rhodes has taken his belt, and when the belt left, his family deteriorated. Jimmy's dead jay is going through his goku versus frieza arc right now. He's jay, if you don't come out with saying gear.

Speaker 1:

If you don't come out and saying gear at mania, I'm gonna be pissed and so it's like.

Speaker 2:

And Solo literally tried to take the title from him. And so it's like. Now, all Roman has had at this point was his wise man left. That's all he has, and CM Punk has now taken that from him and so it's like well, we'll see. And so it's like, damn, that's gonna be rough. But it's one of those deals where it's like I kind of felt like you were. It was like, well, that's a stupid request that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

Like it was like at first, like that'd be a dumb request, but it makes sense it makes sense and like, uh, I'm not, it doesn't like.

Speaker 2:

As, at first I'm like wow, that was kind of underwhelming. But as I kind of let it settle in, I'm like okay maybe it's not that I guess we can deal with that, but what was underwhelming for me was Charlotte Flair's. Was Charlotte Flair's, was Charlotte Flair's um?

Speaker 2:

unfortunately well calm down now. She is still our queen. But her unfortunate mishap while having that conversation with tiffany, I will admit tiffany kind of took her through the ringer and the crowd, which I've like she's been doing that recently, where she's like been letting the crowd like get to her and shit, like where she's trying to talk and she keeps pausing and stuttering and all this other stuff and I'm just like my queen, what is happening? What's going on? I thought we got these surgeries to get away with the to toss out the insecurities. Why are we stuttering? You've never stuttered before. What was my queen, please?

Speaker 1:

please, ric Flair wouldn't took this, but was my queen. Please, please, ric Flair.

Speaker 2:

Ric Flair wouldn't have took this, oh listen, number one Ric Flair was always shooting from the hip, so it's like forgetting your lines. That shouldn't be cause, man. I mean she was stuttering. She was stuttering to the point where it was like she literally was all like you know what, I'll let you finish, go ahead, you can have the last word type thing. I'm just like what is happening and boy Tiffany was coming for next bruh the whole yo you 3 and 0. The 3 and 0 was crazy family, my brother in Christ, and then.

Speaker 2:

I feel like that like Charlotte, she like there was a part of me that feels like she panlotte, she like I there was a part of it. Feels like she panicked, like she was trying to find something to say like I gotta find something just as harsh it was like oh yeah, well, your man's been in my dms and then, like her man on the online, was all like oh, don't flatter yourself, don't flatter yourself.

Speaker 1:

I'm like god damn, baby, god, catastrophic like shorty shorty listen, charlotte.

Speaker 2:

Charlotte had me watching smackdown. Like damn, I can't show my face in the group chat nah, it would have been like, you know, rick flair got.

Speaker 1:

That call was like what is that? What do you mean? What do you mean? You didn't get the tip, bro. The crowd was booing.

Speaker 2:

See what there's a part of me that's like with the way that this has been going like, and I don't even know if I'd even consider this a disket lariat. But like Charlotte, gotta win now. Like nah bro, she can't win, she literally can't bro, you, you can't be out here freaking like by the hair bending over and just having your way with charlotte flair tiffany, you can't be doing that.

Speaker 1:

That's what she did every promo has been to me sizzling. Hey, at 25. Unfortunately, you were doing the thing in your dad's face. Okay, at 25, I'm going to mania, okay. Hey, also, if I win, I beat a legend. I have a lot that kind of runs with this. But also, if I lose, it's fucking Charlotte. Okay, but if you lose, it's over for you. Basically, bro, like there's no way she's cooked.

Speaker 2:

And I don't think.

Speaker 1:

Sorry, I think if she wins it's because creative is like yo. We got to keep Charlotte, otherwise she's done so.

Speaker 2:

Listen, well, I would say, I wouldn't say that.

Speaker 1:

Because if she loses, she's done.

Speaker 2:

Well, I mean, no, I will, no, no, no, you're right on that part. You are definitely right that, like to a certain degree, I like if, if charlotte takes this l, it's gonna be hard for her to recover from, and so it's like she gotta go back to being the moonsault queen at mania doing that beautiful moonsault on oscar and everybody else, just that.

Speaker 2:

She gotta go back to that charlotte this but see she can't even go back to that, because that's tiffany. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. Oh, tiffany with the prettiest moonsault in the game, oh, oh, hold up now.

Speaker 1:

Eo Sky got her, kind of got her too. But yeah, I get what you mean, though, blonde, I get what you mean the sheep, not my words, hers. I knew what you meant, though I knew what you meant, but for being real.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I'm not debating yep, yep, yep, but like yeah, that like overall, like it's one of those things like I watched out of both shows and I know that's not what this is about, but I'm just like man, god, I need AEW to give me some, some more to work with, please. But, as we talked previously, aew is about to be in their WrestleMania season of sorts, so I expect them to turn that shit up, and so that's why I'm letting everything slide until after tonight, and I feel like tonight is going to be a hell of a pay-per-view. It always is, and that's, if I can, hopefully number one.

Speaker 1:

That is the thing about AEW. We're going to move on to this. That is the thing that defriates AEW from some promotions. Wow, the the weekly program can be okay, but their pay-per-views normally stand the fuck out. They are normally like real big shows, right and always for more better than worse yes, I will. We will say that that's kind of what makes me. That's kind of what makes me sing the praises of aw, because like but like watch. This pay-per-view was fucking crazy. Um, compared to the show.

Speaker 2:

It's what keeps them locked in. However, at the same time, they there's a certain proportion of it where I feel like they're. It's like, because their shows are, they have to overcompensate. On pay-per-views where, granted, as wrestling fans, we're like alright, we'll take it, but, like you know, when you got 20 matches in a pay-per-view and all of them are doing main event shit, it's like.

Speaker 2:

I gotta breathe you know, but I'm gonna and I'm gonna keep it right there because once again I try. I don't want to be carded as a. I dropped my phone on the ground, but I don't want to be carded as a awa either.

Speaker 1:

I I'm trying hard not to be or look like that guy well, what we can card you as is the guy with the questions, and I know that's what we're going to get into today is continuing the conversation of just these questions, that kind of give you an idea of our wrestling origins. And before we get into that question, I want to bring up the thing I talked about with triple H in our side chat. He felt like having a Mount Rushmore is kind of difficult, especially if you're talking about all time, like every era, every you know particular era of wrestling has a Mount Rushmore. I think I want to make that as a combination, a series of us giving the Mount Rushmore of every era of wrestling Federation Attitude, new Generation, ruthless Aggression. No, excuse me, new Generation was Federation Attitude, ruthless Aggression. What was the era after that?

Speaker 2:

After Ruthless Aggression the PG era. I could have sworn it was the era after that, after ruthless aggression, the pg era.

Speaker 1:

I could have sworn it was another one out before that after after now, when we was in ruthless aggression.

Speaker 2:

At the end of ruthless aggression was when super sena had finally turned super sena okay, yeah and that was the dawn of the p? Pg era and then after that was the you could honestly say, after the PG era came the COVID era that is crazy.

Speaker 1:

That is crazy. The Thunderdome era that's what we want to say. That would be better. Thunderdome era and this would be the next Flix era.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think, yeah, I think that's fair, that's what.

Speaker 1:

Triple H called it the Netflix era. He called it that, so we'll call it.

Speaker 2:

I would say, yeah, you can. Yeah, we'll go with that. Granted, the Netflix era starts earlier than when Netflix happened.

Speaker 1:

But it has led up to Netflix.

Speaker 2:

So that works, I'll take it.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I'm gonna pull it up in the future. Just all the eras in wrestling, um. So that will be okay. So it's the golden era, the attitude era, the a ruthless aggression, the pg, the reality era, and then currently we're in the netflix one. Oh, the invasion era.

Speaker 2:

Apparently that's an era that was the invasion era, yeah that. So that's like the when WWE won, which is that early 2000s situation, because that's when we bought WCW and we merged with ECW and all that good stuff oh real quick, because I do want to do this for the pod in the future.

Speaker 1:

I want to kind of for the pod in the future. I want to kind of create our intro for the show as a wrestling intro that we really like. So remember how the Raw's war intro. I want to do something similar to that, but for the pod. I want to do something similar to that but for the pod. So I want to know, I want you to think about which one is your favorite, like wrestling intro before the show start and it's like the before the actual intro comes out. You know what I'm saying. Does that make sense? Like how we have the then now forever intro. I want you to think of which one is your favorite one.

Speaker 2:

So I can do that for us.

Speaker 1:

Which one is that?

Speaker 2:

That's the one Move to the music that was yours. Bro, that raw intro, Absolute slapper.

Speaker 1:

Okay, for raw specifically, or this is just your favorite of all time?

Speaker 2:

So I can't say there's a favorite of all time, because that one.

Speaker 1:

So I can't say there's a favorite of all time, because that one is tied with the very first SmackDown intro. Oh my god, oh my god, smackdown is so tough, smackdown is so tough.

Speaker 2:

Exactly, exactly, because then after that, the my time it was my life, my time, all right, my hustle swim, my.

Speaker 1:

yeah, that one also is but the original but the original that one's fire, and that's why it's tough, because it's literally just those two. It's literally those two listen those two.

Speaker 2:

My time for Smackdown, yeah, my time. And then I forget the name of it, but the original Smackdown that's yeah, that is the original Smackdown is my favorite Smackdown intro yeah, and then my time is second place, and then for Raw is second place, and then for Raw is move to the music and then, honestly, the Nickelback one. I really like that one too.

Speaker 2:

I only like the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the, the, the only like the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the, the the the, the, the, the, the, the.

Speaker 1:

It was in the video games yes, yes, that's how I know, but that's the same song though yeah, that's fair.

Speaker 2:

I I can, because that would probably be second place for me as far as like my intro and then the Nickelback one would probably be like my third place.

Speaker 1:

I'm gonna have to go back and listen to all the intros. I think I'm gonna have to do that because I'm surprised that I tolerated it like it wasn't bad, it wasn't, it wasn't better. It wasn't bad, just wasn't but I, but I will agree with the look at the jaws and I am my generation. I'm gonna take a bite. That one was fired up.

Speaker 2:

Bro, especially because I've been at the show when that was the one. So I've been to Raw when that was like, oh God, you're just sitting there After the paper, after all the pyro, oh my god yeah I, I think I think my first show was the, the uh, original rocket road.

Speaker 1:

That was mine, so that's kind of probably why it was. For me, maybe, but raw is war, or um, um, what was the other one? Um, I'm trying to remember the freaking lyrics, all about the joy in your eye. Now what I was talking about earlier. I can't remember the rest of the lyrics, where that's, all the thing you remember is the in your eye, like but that also was, that was like the updated, because it was still the.

Speaker 1:

It would play before, and then it was, because they're two separate songs. Oh, it's the last of a guy, it's all of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that one.

Speaker 2:

Okay, alright, you're right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that one. Okay, all right, yeah, yeah, damn they. They are two separate, yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

So what they would do is that would be the intro to raw and then the uh, the dad is.

Speaker 2:

This is a complete thing.

Speaker 1:

That was the theme for Raw, so but it's funny, we end up going to one of our what is our favorites, without even doing it on purpose. So let's go ahead and go into these questions okay, so.

Speaker 2:

So where were we at? Alright, so going straight to it for aw, who is your uh current favorite?

Speaker 1:

aw boy and girl current favorite girl, tony storm, tony storming me automatically say that I currently enjoy the product that she's bringing to me every week. I'm just like what's her next promo gonna be? Like bro, what? And my wife hated. My wife hates. Like how she acts. She's just like she's such a pompous. Like like she's. She just does too much. Like. She loves the era that she's in because that's her favorite era of like clothing. You know the aesthetic that's her era. She loves that she could dress like that she would. But she's just like she's doing it too much. Like it's it's too much. So I love it because I'm like that's the point of the character that's the point over the top extra yes, that's the point of the character.

Speaker 1:

I love it. Um, currently, when it comes to guy, that one is tough because, um, while at one point I want to say it's swerve, but I'm really liking this Bobby Lashley we getting right now. Oh, this Bobby Lashleyley we getting right now. Oh, this bobby lashley, we getting right now. I need him to have, I want him to get really big into the hurt syndicate and get him that freaking title.

Speaker 2:

I want to see him every week bullying people you're right I feel that though I do think that this current version of bobby lashley is the most disgusting, most devastating and like scared of him. Like he is, he is super villain level I'm gonna show you a gif.

Speaker 1:

I'm gonna show you a gif in the chat right now. This is the one we got. That's the one we got. We got him and I'm terrified of him. Terrified, I'm getting a call right now.

Speaker 2:

Bobby Lashley is a bad man and I'm 100% for it Because he's just legitimately scary. He's scary but the tiles because he's because he's just legitimately scary, but it's like he's scary but it's like the titles that he's holding doesn't aren't making him as scary as I know he needs to be and be portrayed, because how, you gonna look so big and bad and you just got some tag team titles and especially with the way that the tag team titles are kind of shown in AEW right now, they're kind of Exactly, but I mean, it's a start. You know what I'm saying. So I'm letting them cook on that, yes, so okay, I feel that. So I know, for me it's actually a tie and I think, well, it's a tie to a certain degree, but it's definitely Swerve. However, I feel as if, like, I like Swerve, but I've always liked Swerve anywhere that he has gone, and so if I did not count the fact of me liking Swerve, like that Homegrown Danny Garcia, danny, listen, I love me some, danny Garcia bro.

Speaker 1:

He makes me think of Alex Wright back in the day.

Speaker 2:

Listen. So when I started paying attention to danny was when they first had him with uh, the guy who now has only been doing the announcer stuff and they was going through this whole situation where he just wanted to do the dance and every time he would start doing a dance his bowl would be like stupid, they're not gonna take you seriously if you do this dance and stuff like that. And it was it's like every once in a while he'd be in the match. He'd be all like and he's like no, don't do it. Oh, please don't do it. He's doing the dances.

Speaker 2:

I loved that All the way down to now where he's at right now, and they got him looking like us. He. He is serious stuff right now, even though, like the tnt title that he's holding is being heavily not used as you mean guard it guard it or not? No, not guarded it's, it's, it's missing in action. But aside from that, though, my boy De Garcia. Now, when it came to the girls, the girls were hard.

Speaker 1:

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2:

Extremely unpopular opinion, but originally I liked.

Speaker 1:

Britt Baker I did too. I did too. It was all about DM. I did too. I did too. It was all about DM. I was all about that shit 100%. She was the Charlotte Flair of AEW. To me she was the queen 100%.

Speaker 2:

I thought she was great. And then I started looking at the group chats and not just a group chat but then I'm hearing other people and I'm like what did I miss? Where did all this BrickBanker hate come from? The hell did she do? I thought she was great in the ring. I love her finishing move and even to this day I'm actually still not extreme outside the fact that apparently she cheated on, on, on our our baby like outside the whole.

Speaker 2:

Apparently she cheated on him and broke his heart. You know, like I, I, I don't know, I don't understand the brit baker hate um.

Speaker 1:

So apparently it was about something that happened between her and mjf. He was saying something about his girl and mjf got in her face like yo, you're not gonna talk about my girl like that. And it caused such an uproar backstage where he didn't put his hands on her, but he was just like fussing with her, like you're not gonna disrespect my girl.

Speaker 2:

And um, she's also been known for sandbagging people or potatoing people okay, okay, so okay, because I was about to say because, like especially because you're in the group chat as well, so you know our group chat that we are a part of, they're not necessarily extremely high on mjf themselves. So I know the issue with mjf wouldn't have been. They're not.

Speaker 1:

It is what it is that that guy can got a goddamn promo. What the?

Speaker 2:

some would argue and say that he's just yelling, and but listen not my words.

Speaker 1:

Do they not see when he went against cm punk? Do they not see against any of those promos he just had? Oh my god, that's crazy.

Speaker 2:

Take it up with the boys, I'm gonna have a conversation with him. That's fucking insane bro, listen, it is. But like so though I did, I like Britt Baker. I like Britt Baker, aside from, I guess, the heat that she gets. I just don't talk about it a whole bunch cause it's like it's a heat that I'm she gets. I just don't talk about it a whole bunch because it's it's like a, it's a heat that I'm like all right, all right, I don't, I don't, don't, look at me like that.

Speaker 1:

It's kind of the same thing with Blanchard. I don't know if you're familiar with Blanchard. It's like her. She's a phenomenal wrestler, made shitty comments and because of that she's done so 100% listen.

Speaker 2:

It's funny like uh, like. You know that whole thing where they'd be all like ao, so hear me out yeah, it's really with her.

Speaker 1:

It's a hear me out like it's like it's same thing with velveteen dream. It's like hear me out, you know that situation was fixed, that situation was apparently fixed, but it's like hear me out, can we give him another chance, please?

Speaker 2:

like, just let him cook again, we'll get great TV let him cook properly, cause recently he's the way he's been trying to cook, like he acting, like he forgot how to use a spoon in the kitchen or something well, I mean, you're not wrestling for years because of something like that.

Speaker 2:

You might lose some he's apparently been on the independent circuit, but it's like he's doing the thing, like he's doing the thing that he was doing when he was velveteen dream where it's like he'll like put the certain propaganda like on his gear type thing, or he'll wear something that would like to be getting the message across. But it's one of those deals where it's all like, you know, sometimes silence is golden. Hey, why are you asleep over here? I'll do what you. It's like one of those things where he's trying to.

Speaker 1:

I know he's trying to get wwe's attention. He's trying to because he can't just hit up hunter and be like, hey, bring me back. Like enough people have to want to see him back and give him a second chance. I don't know if a WWE will even give him a second chance, unfortunately because of the situation at hand.

Speaker 2:

But I don't even think it's the fact that they wouldn't give him a second chance. I don't think it's just the fact that the ways that he's been going about trying to call for a second chance, he's you're. No one's going to look at you that way.

Speaker 2:

OK, that makes sense but, aside from Britt Baker, I do believe my other pick and my other pick as far as like a girl who I really like but she's not once again not doing anything currently is the virtuoso Dana. I love her, she's great. The Virtuosa Dana Parrazzo I love her, she's great, and when they was, when she was doing things, I was locked into it, but she's been a little quiet recently, which is fair enough. Who is that? You know, miss Virtuosa. The way I was about to describe her describes a decent amount of them. I'm trying to think how do you spell her name Virtuosa V-I-R-T-U-O-S-A.

Speaker 2:

She was doing some real big stuff with the TNT women's title. For a bit that was kind of like her last really big hoorah that she kind of had going on.

Speaker 1:

Maybe I'm not putting it in. It's V-I-R.

Speaker 2:

V-I-R T-U-O-S-A.

Speaker 1:

Now, I also could, I was about to say.

Speaker 2:

Now, I also could just be really bad at spelling.

Speaker 1:

There's a person. Okay, so it's. I'm going to probably butcher this right. It's Diona.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Peraza.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, diona Peraza, okay, okay, okay, I don't think I remember seeing her product before. Oh, okay, no, no, no, I, I know her, I know her. Now I know her, I know her.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, she had a little thing she had a thing with tony storm for a bit too, which was what really kind of put her on the map for me when I was really like I was really looking at her and so I drew a blank right there. It's okay. There's a lot of people in AEW and it makes sense.

Speaker 1:

Anyway so that. So guy and girl Swerve, so same question.

Speaker 2:

Okay, yeah, so you said yours is Swerve. No, I said Bobby Lashley andby lashley and tony, that's right because mine was swerve bobby lashley, tony swarm, swerve slash danny and brit baker and virtuosa. Okay, yeah, and so same question, but wwe now all right.

Speaker 1:

I, I really want Carmelo to do something really good. Dude like I have so much hope for this guy. He's currently like anytime I've seen him and I didn't even watch NXT, but I watched it for him because not saying that he was him, but it was just like. He is a character that I feel like. Finally, as we don't get a lot of black representation and as heavyweight champions, he is the first one, whereas he has all the swagger, all you know, that we normally incorporate in our culture. As a person who one day hold that heavyweight title, I have so much hope for Carmelo Because I don't feel like it's going to be Trick. I don't think Trick when he makes the main roster. That aura, that stuff is going to kind of connect Because it's going to be a different audience. Triple H is probably not going to want it as well. So I still feel like it's Carmelo.

Speaker 2:

No, I agree with that, because if Trick would have came up with carmelo and they were still friends it would have been fine. Right now, trick on his own it's better, but it's still got. It's still got work. That's why he's still there. It might be, or at least from what I can, from my vision and he also got cap in his raps.

Speaker 1:

His raps was trash. Wow, all right, those two, those two songs to me were cheeks. Okay, ethan payne's song was fire I.

Speaker 2:

I got no comment on that one. I don't got no comment on either. Or they are, they are, they are and they served their purpose for the purpose that was made.

Speaker 1:

But anyway. But, Carmelo is currently, Because I remember I watched him at a live show and I'm just like man. I see he's going against Italo and he's probably not going to win it. But I just want Carmelo to just finally start cooking. Just just start cooking with mellow. He has so much damn potential in that damn ring. He can talk, he has to look. Just put the fucking strap on him, the rocket on him, and boom. Just let him go like let him go.

Speaker 2:

That's just me.

Speaker 1:

I feel carmelo's gonna have his time after wrestlemania I feel like it too, maybe with the Intercontinental title first, maybe I don't even know what title.

Speaker 2:

I mean, granted, last SmackDown they were teasing him teaming up with the Miz, so and them being an actual tag team and all that.

Speaker 1:

So but again, while I say, carmelo Hayes, that was before, that was before, that was before, but now.

Speaker 2:

It's saddle me. Like it's. It's what you.

Speaker 1:

Bro, leave my guy like In this bitch. There's no way I'm leaving my guy like that. And you know what I find it really good is that you keep watching for ray phoenix. You might be like next week you might be that way, you might be lucha bros. It might be lucha bros versus the big brothers of destruction. Let's, let's get it happen, let's get I might even make merch of that shit Me in the gear, and then you I'm just saying that's how big of a fan I am I rock his gear immediately.

Speaker 2:

Listen, you do have the mask. I mean I got plenty, I'm not going to deny him and I'm not going to deny you of that.

Speaker 1:

I almost feel a little cheated that that was the answer, but I also like I said, I still have Carmelo there, but because he's here now, like I kind of got to listen, that's fair alright, now female.

Speaker 1:

Tiffany Stratton Listen that's fair, all right. Now, female Tiffany Stratton. Oh Tiffany, there's something about Tiffany, man, like she has diva aura, but she wrestles just like Bayley and everybody else. Man, she gets in the damn ring. She's beautiful, she, she, she has the whole diva. Or the thing that Vince has been wanting for years Another Trish Stratus and what is. And then you already got the Tiffany Trish Stratus tag team match. Now I'm not saying I'm not saying Tiffany Stratton is Trish Stratus tag team match. Now I'm not saying I'm not saying Tiffany Stratton is Trish Stratus. Give her time to cook, maybe, maybe. Okay, she's definitely not. No, charlotte Flair, not after this week. But if, if she would be anybody of that caliber and star power, it will be a Trish.

Speaker 2:

I feel that I see it, it I can see her doing that. She can get there, tiffany, absolutely she could get there, especially considering the fact that, like unlike trish, trish started out as eye candy and she learned how to wrestle.

Speaker 1:

Tiffany came in here knowing how to wrestle, and she's eye candy man to the point where it's just like look man, look, look, look, look, look I. I kind of have to watch myself when I'm watching the matches because it's just like tiffy, just one wrong move, bro, one wrong move I I. This is on the. I felt I remember john um, jim cornette or somebody was saying that her gear is just too much. They're like yo, this is too seductive and I'm like OK, that.

Speaker 2:

So that statement not to go off, but that statement to me is crazy, like because this was something I did want to bring up at one point. Have you seen the clip of mickey james talking to the girl about like hey, listen, this ain't the divas era.

Speaker 1:

No more cover your cheeks, I'm just like but she has a good reason though, because, yeah, you know, it's like yeah, we fought hard to not have to do that anymore and blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 2:

In my mind I'm just like okay, you guys fought hard so that you don't have to do that anymore. Does that mean that it should be bad to not?

Speaker 1:

do it, if you got the assets and you're doing it properly and you're not doing overboard. Why not?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and granted, I have no stock in the game because I'm a boy, I'm a man and of course I'm going to be the guy. Of course a guy's going to say of course you want to see that. You know, blah, blah, blah. But at the same time, I'm like as to advocate for the ladies and whatnot. You know, we have ladies who are out here who do their thing and are making whatever they want and empowering themselves and doing what they do in all these different genres.

Speaker 1:

you know, onlyfans is a really big deal and you know, I'm sorry you can't say that I actually gotta edit that out. You can't say that YouTube. You can't say you gotta say OF, yeah, you gotta say OF.

Speaker 2:

It's like how you can't say the. P word you gotta say corn oh, I'm sorry, I guess I need damn. I guess I need one of them wwe lists of things that you can say and not say. But don't call it, don't call it wrong.

Speaker 1:

I might be wrong. I might be wrong because I do have. Um. There is, if you go on youtube, people like how to do stuff for that site, but I don't think they can actually say the word. I think you only could just have the logo and you could just say OF. But I'll check on that, but for the time being, just for the protectory's sake, we're just going to say OF.

Speaker 2:

OF. But it's like you know, with OF and all this other stuff going on and stuff like that, and it's kind of one of those deals where it's like it's been so normalized nowadays where I feel like, so what? And especially because, like at this point, yes, so what if she goes out and the cheeks are hanging out, kind of thing. They say it's a distraction, but if you're a good enough wrestler who cares about the cheeks, the wrestling will speak for itself. At the end of the day, the cheeks just makes you look at it a little closer sometimes, kind of thing, like back then when we just had the Divas. They were all look and no fight. They were out there catfighting.

Speaker 2:

We had Ron Panties matches, listen, which there was a hot take that I had thought of and I'm talking like it's definitely boiler room level hot take and I would just drop it and I'm not even going to talk about it. But I'm like I feel, I think I think bringing back Ron Pennyies matches in a proper way, I don't think there'd be a problem with that. I'm going to just drop it and I'm going to move on. I said what I said. Okay, I think a bra and panties match can be used in today's timeframe.

Speaker 1:

Maybe like a manager standpoint, but like two individuals wrestling pulling off their clothes, maybe not, maybe like if, maybe, if it was like a, an Ironman match, right and for every fall. I feel like this will hype the crowd because you're like how many falls are they gonna do so? So she's like, so that would kind of be like a oh, but obviously you know they're never going to make them butt naked, so they'll be like all right, so you got three lines of clothing, we'll do three falls and then we'll heat her on the fourth one.

Speaker 2:

I have a logic behind the hot take, but I feel that a Braun Payne's match could be tastefully done today. Let's say that for the next part. I'll bring that as a topic for another time. Okay, a nice little boiler room hot take to throw in there. So Tiffy and Penta, yep, yep, yep. Tiffy and um, penta, yep, yep. I mean, the basic bitch in me is gonna tell you my current favorites are cody rhodes and charlotte f you basically picked the fucking I know what I said Like the capital America.

Speaker 2:

I said what I said. Okay, okay, cody Rhodes and Charlotte Flair. That being stated, my underlining is Brunson Reed and Bianca Belair.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to give you a scenario real quick. You chose Dusty, rose, ric, flair, bam Bam, bigelow and Jackal.

Speaker 2:

A nice comparison. And yes, grant, I've never liked Jackacqueline like that, like that okay I'll be honest, I actually never really liked jazz like that either. But but that was also because, you know, as a young kid, jazz just wasn't that attractive to me we're not gonna talk about alicia fox, because the damn show ain't gonna to be her. She does not compare in the realm.

Speaker 1:

For Bianca, I'll say that straight up black female wrestlers don't Bianca? Just put some more respect on that if we're talking about the eras, like if you boom, boom, boom. Jacqueline was a great wrestler, jazz was a great wrestler, jazz was a great wrestler. And if I was gonna, go here like with the wrestler wise.

Speaker 2:

That's why I was doing that but yeah, fair enough, alicia Fox was a crazy girl man you know, you know, we gonna say that for another one.

Speaker 1:

But Cody Rhodes, charlotte Flair, all right, those are your current two.

Speaker 2:

Yes, honorable mentions to Brunson Reed and Bianca Belair, but I feel as if I have talked up Bianca enough for y'all to probably understand that is my goal to get looking like Brunson Reed, I ain't gonna lie, that's my goal. Listen, I love me some Tsunami. I hope he comes back soon because I know he got injured in the the thing the match between him and Braun no, no, no, he got injured war games yeah but um.

Speaker 2:

so with this question I think we slightly touched on it a little bit. But just to clarify earliest wrestling memory Like the first one. Yes, like when you try to think back, what is like the earliest wrestling memory that you have.

Speaker 1:

The first wrestling memory I can think of was I was hanging out with a friend named Keith in the early nineties and he was my introduction to wrestling. I guess I would say in a sense of like making it cool, cause he was all about wrestling, he was dressing up thing. When I go to his house he has wrestling toys, wrestling games. He, he was us, but ahead of time, and I remember my first time seeing it was it was the rock coming into the ring and he rock bottoms the undertaker and I was like what is this, like what's going on? He was like all right, cool. And so he had to break down the characters for me and I was like this is interesting, I get, I'll peep it more.

Speaker 1:

And then, after the show went off, he made me play a game with him. He made me play a wrestling game. I can't remember which one it was. Um, I want to say it was not no mercy, no, no, it was way before that. Um, what was? I think the game at the time would have probably been like um, attitude it could have been war zone, because war zone was the first one you're right, it was war zone, yeah, play war zone, and then attitudes.

Speaker 1:

After that that's we.

Speaker 2:

We were kind of friends at that point with attitudes out, um so but yeah, that was my first memory was rock rock bottoming, undertaker nice nice and I know I touched on it in the very first episode that we did, which I know I've always, I've always had memory of brett hart because, like I've said before, when it comes to wrestling I came out the womb watching it. You know what I'm saying. Like it's always been in the house. It was always on when monday nights was the only night I was allowed to stay up past nine o'clock because I was allowed to watch wrestling at that point. And so it's like my earliest like, but the like, the specific one that I can coin down at least as a pinpointer, because I still want to go back and see if I can find out what is my true Earliest memory, or if I Can't even find that, but it Was my brother winning the diesel cut Out, because I know I've been watching wrestling Up until that point. But If I could put like a stamp.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, if I can put a stamp On when I know I was definitely Watching wrestling was when Big diesel was champion actually I think that's golden era federation is like hulk.

Speaker 1:

Golden era is sean michaels, diesel era no no, no, no.

Speaker 2:

So golden era, the golden era is your macho mans and hulk hogans and all that other stuff. Right, the new generation? What you're talking about, yeah, diesel and Bret, like when Diesel was champion and then when Bret Hart was champion. That's like new generation. And I do believe. Nope, nope, because I think I actually don't remember the time framing, because I think Bret Hart was well, because Bret Hart was champion off and on kind of thing. But during that new generation time frame was when Diesel did become champion at one point, which was also around the time when the worst business was being done Wrestling, apparently, for WWE. But that is what it is. Okay, yeah, that that's. That's what I card as my earliest. So, after we've now talked about the wrestlers that were like number one across the board, who is a wrestler that you just can't fuck with right now?

Speaker 1:

jill henry. I don't get it. I don't. I won't say I don't fuck with him because he he's doing his thing. I just the meme is the only thing to me that makes him relevant, like his in-ring ability. I don't really know it that well because I've seen a couple of his matches and I'm like, okay, nothing crazy, you know, um, I'm just not. I'm just not a fan of him. I wouldn't say I don't fuck with him. I'm just not a fan of him. I don't, I I'm tired of the alright I was saying you say Joe Henry also say his name.

Speaker 1:

I'm like alright man, look bro, like I feel like that when it pops up, it's the equivalent of somebody like you know how somebody tries to scare you when you got the hiccups like that. That. That bro, why are we doing this right now? Like no, I'm good, I'm good and it's. It's that bad.

Speaker 1:

It's like almost the rick roll of wrestling damn wow all right, I'm just talking about, like in this, an equivalent of when it pops up like you know, you do something on you know, like that's how it feels like to me, not saying it's that bad, but it just feels like that to me oh, it was like oh, my boy just sent me a link, I'm going with this.

Speaker 2:

Oh, actually, now I should say that, now that I said that out loud, that I, I, I used to do that shit to my brother okay, so you get that.

Speaker 1:

So it's just like. So he's like oh man, you sent me a message all of a sudden. See it's now, man. God damn it, bro. Like that's how it feels, like on social media at one point that's fair.

Speaker 2:

That part is fair. The other part is kind of damn, but that's fair. I get it. I mean, we all know what mine is, because we've talked about it and we've talked about it in depth already and uh, it's john moxley. I can't stand that moment okay, that's about it, I just and and I don't even have to go into it because I've already done so. It's, it is, it's been. It's been made very apparent why I just don't John Moxley, and he has yet to disappoint.

Speaker 2:

So John Moxley for me, but Joe Henry, all right it's just, and it's funny, both of them have a J in their first initial well then, on the flip side, if you could pick a wrestler right now that you can push to the moon, put a strap of rocket on their back and just make them the guy, who would that be?

Speaker 1:

Carmelo Hayes, as much as I said Penta, like I want the belt on him. Penta doesn't need it he's gonna do it anyway but, like someone that I want to see doing great things is Carmelo watching Carmelo Hayes as a wrestler. It's like it's the equivalent of a homeboy that you like, man. You don't speak to him much but you're like, hey, man, did you hear about homeboy? He got into the NFL. He's doing good things. It's so good to hear that's good.

Speaker 2:

That's what I want for Carmelo, bro, and once again, I feel, because the issue with Carmelo is that when he came up, he came up at a time where there was just no room. There has not been any room for him this whole year. However, I feel after wrestlemania, once we hit the, the, once we have this grand finale and then season, the new season of wrestling begins after wrestlemania. I feel that's going to be when carmel is going to get his, so you might be getting that. I think you might be getting that rocket sooner than later okay.

Speaker 2:

I think I know, for me, um, for me it's Brunson Reed. Right now I could agree, brunson Reed, and the thing was until, like he was, I think they. I feel as if he had the rocket on his back and then he got hurt because he was, he was on an upward trajectory. They wouldn't give him the IC title, even though I wish they would have. But then, when he joined, the bloodline bam.

Speaker 1:

I know he's not one of them, but damn it, he felt perfect in it listen he's at what was it?

Speaker 2:

I heard someone to survive this. I think it was actually, uh, antonio who said it, but he or no someone else said it, I don't remember who, but I know recently we was talking about it. Listen he, because he actually does have Samoan in his blood.

Speaker 1:

He does. He's just not part of that family.

Speaker 2:

He's just not part of that family. But it's like one of those things where you know he is a. They adopted him from a different island and brought him over Because, man, when they, when he was that surprised and him and Jacob Fatu was just beaten, oh my, when he was that surprise and him and Jacob Fatu was just beaten, oh my, I was listening Cause, like I said, brunson Reed was already big news at that time. Like he was, he had the rocket. You know what I'm saying? He was right there. And then, when he joined a bloodline and when they first came out together, he just I'm like this. It actually almost didn't make sense why Roman Reigns was able to come out with a W there was. He shouldn't have but plot. So it was like but another person, though that I want and really wish could get that rocket put on his back. He can just become exactly what I know he should be and could be.

Speaker 1:

It's keith lee I feel like he's unfortunate. I feel like his, his, uh, I want to say his time is up. I feel like what's the best way to put it without saying he's done because he's not done? He still. He still got a lot left in the tank. He still got a lot left. It's just because he's not done, he still got a lot left in the tank, he still got a lot left. It's just whereas he was limitless in doing a great thing in NXT for him to come back in, almost like the era of giants. He's literally going to be put in a similar situation where he's going to probably get up going against a Bronson Reed or a Braun Strowman. He's not really going to be put into the main title picture and I don't see that happening either.

Speaker 2:

But continue on with it because what you said is is also kind of what I feel now, grant, because, like he was, because he was on AEW, right, or he's on AEW now he's supposed to kill me. It's like I know from what I've I've come to learn that he actually was really really sick recently and so he's literally on the tail end of actually getting 100 better and so. But, like it was, but he had like some crazy health problem that uh, that uh that struck him and so it's like, but I do feel that like the time for him to have to use that rocket, like if we strap a rocket to him now, he's only gonna go into orbit, he's, he won't, he's not gonna hit moon, which hurts because he could have.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, swerve is where he is now and he's just literally, if he does it, swerve is already in, he's in his astronaut suit, like, and so if he's just like, he's like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, get your.

Speaker 2:

It's like they're gonna have to cross paths again well, well, no, they definitely have to, because they never finished that story. Yeah, I think, and before he left, I think he was working his way back to swerve to get his just deserves, but like swerve's, not that same person, though he's not.

Speaker 2:

however, it makes me think on some uh t'challa and uh killmonger type shit where he's gonna to come back and Swerve's going to be like hey, bro, listen, I'm not that me anymore. He's like I don't care if you're that me, because you're still him, which would be great if they did. Aw, take it if you can.

Speaker 1:

That makes Keith Lee the heel.

Speaker 2:

They're definitely aiming to make Swerve the babyface right now which, which would be quite the shake-up, right, it would be a bad guy, keith lee we actually haven't seen that in a while.

Speaker 1:

I don't think I've ever seen him as a heel he's never been a, he's never been a heel.

Speaker 2:

But the problem also is with keith lee is the fact he's like a, he's a, he's never been a heel. But the problem also is with keith lee is the fact he's like, uh, he's a, he's a he's a lovable baby face.

Speaker 1:

He has that. He doesn't have a mean.

Speaker 2:

Look on his face he, he, uh, he is too proper and prim be healed, but I could be wrong.

Speaker 1:

Prove me wrong. He, he was the, not saying that he's the equivalent of the same person. It was the equivalent of when they try to make rikishi a heel after he'd been too cool forever and you're like he's a heel now, but he still be. I still remember him when he was shaking his ass and dancing and shit, telling me he's a bad man now.

Speaker 2:

The leather outfits.

Speaker 1:

The leather outfits he was wearing with the Rikishi was fire.

Speaker 2:

I mean that old theme song I'm a bad man, he's a bad man, Bad boss.

Speaker 1:

That's the one. Steve's a crook. Some more bad women. Thank God, I make it all. Yeah, no, that wasn't that was a fire track. That was fire track.

Speaker 2:

So I have two more questions here, and both of them are heavy ones to a certain degree, and I don't know what I think I'm going to do. I'm gonna save this last one and um wait so you only have two questions left.

Speaker 1:

Yes, so I feel like we can knock them out if it, depending on how heavy they are, I I feel like we can knock them out if it helps us, unless you want to save it for the podcast and make an extension on it well, we'll see what I'll do.

Speaker 2:

I'm gonna give them both to you and I'll let you okay, okay so the ninth question is what is it about wrestling that does it for you? What is it about wrestling that keeps you watching wrestling and, for all intents and purposes, the reason why we're having this conversation? That's one second one. You just finished wrestling school. What is your wrestling name? What's your gimmick?

Speaker 1:

okay, I can see why that's a heavy one.

Speaker 2:

I can see why that's a heavy one so then the second one.

Speaker 1:

I felt the first one. I feel like, yeah, that that could have set off just just off the tip of the tongue, no problem, but I feel like I will also rant a little bit too, so I think that could also be a another episode question. Those are some really like. You guys take some deep thoughts and, honestly, I even want to encourage the audience, you know, to the comment section for, when it comes to that question, you guys can think about that. Again, the question was what is it about wrestling that does it for you? Why are you still consuming it? Why are you still here? Matter of fact, it's honestly one of the reasons why you're here watching the podcast, because we talk about wrestling. So what about wrestling gets you going to the point that you even want to listen to guys like us talk about wrestling. All right. And the second one you just finished wrestling school. What is your gimmick? What's the lore, all that stuff that basically makes you who you are? And, matter of fact, I even had a bonus. What's your finisher?

Speaker 2:

I try to start thinking that for myself.

Speaker 1:

I mean, I have a couple but I feel like I feel like that we're talking about you just getting out of school, you don't. We're not gonna think about theme songs, because I feel like theme song would that could be. I don't think I don't know how we could actually do that within an episode without doing like copyright stuff, you know yeah, as far as like the theme, like your, your uh, entrance music, because for all intents and purposes you can.

Speaker 2:

Someone can get one specifically made for them yeah, but the main thing would be is like whoa, who are you? What's your name? What's your name, what's your thing? What's your gimmick? That's tough. What's the finish? What is your finish?

Speaker 1:

That is tough for me because, man, I go by the Masako but like what, before you know? Oh man, I'm going to have to really sit down and think about that one.

Speaker 2:

That one's tough. Yeah, I know, for people like us who have. You know we're avid players of the wrestling game and you know we've sat down and literally just put together literally a full 100 people roster of all different kinds of characters which, to very small degrees, are probably our small extensions of ourselves. But then it's like well, what is your wrestling character?

Speaker 1:

So that's the thing. We also have our wrestling characters in those products too. But like knowing the wonderful world of wrestling compared to the wonderful world of what wrestling will be on a game, it don't. It can't match the same. It's funny because my character in my wrestling show is what your character would be if you was actually a wrestler a monster. That's literally what my character is is a monster. But would I do that in wrestling? Probably not. I would kind of be the charismatic character which is you in our wrestling promotions, so it's so crazy. But would I do that in wrestling? Probably not. I would kind of be the charismatic character which is you in our wrestling promotions, so it's so crazy how you don't want to do talking, you want to go in the ring, chokeslam somebody, do all the damage. That's literally what my character is. I come in, do the pedigree, I do the spear boom.

Speaker 2:

But the charismatic nature of your character and cutting promos and being that guy, that's what I would want to be so to and to that fault, like I know I, because I know what mine is going to be especially, I've even had a chance to like do it, yeah, before, which it was very well received, when I, I, when I, uh I went to a wrestling school that's local here and they, uh, there was, we had like a segment where I was like, hey, cut a promo.

Speaker 2:

So off the top of the dome, I cut a promo and I got an ovation and so I was like, oh okay, all right, so they do come up with this character. But at the same time and this is only of recently and I'm just going to say this and we'll let it be, but it's like you know I did not think that a person of like my height, my stature, even if I, you know, hit the gym and start working out, I'm like people like me can't be monsters. And then I started paying attention to Jacob Fatu and he's now changed my whole mentality on monsters, because y'all saw what Jacob Fatu did to our I'm not even going to call him that Our big SOB. You saw what he did to him, our big sob. You saw what he did to him. That's funny because in the he did try to like. I am a monster, jacob yeah, he did.

Speaker 1:

No, he didn't say. He didn't say monster among men, he just said I was a monster, because he knew he was not that guy. No more, he knew it. He knew he was not that guy, which also reminds me. Quick side note, it was a post. It was like yo um uh, it was like I think I said it to you it's like gifts, but like, uh, like sexual in the windows or something like that. Like, oh, like what's your reaction? Or like what you're doing, uh, compared to in the gifts. So one of the gifts was like jay luce, on on ropes bouncing, so he's was like getting shorty from behind. And then one of them was Bronson Reed coming up like after round two. I'm not finished.

Speaker 2:

You might have to rescind me that one. I might have missed that one.

Speaker 1:

Some of these people had some crazy ones. Bro, don't try to have me dying dog. I know it's got to be on my wall, but yeah Anyway.

Speaker 2:

So we'll revisit those two questions next time, so we'll get our time to elaborate on them. And yeah, fam, there's a pay-per-view. That's going to be happening for AEW. That is tonight on when we're recording this. I'm going to be happening for AEW. That is tonight on when we're recording this. I'm going to be watching it and the next time we meet I will have my speech about whatever happens, I guess. But until then, Well, it depends.

Speaker 1:

If something crazy happens, we do got to talk about it as soon as possible, you right, you right. I don't know if it's going to be the same night.

Speaker 2:

We'll see happens. We do got to talk about it like as soon as possible.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, you're right, you're right yeah, I don't know if it's gonna be the same night we'll see, we'll see, we'll see, but uh but guys, I want to say thank you so much for watching another podcast episode with the big brothers of destruction.

Speaker 1:

uh, if you haven't yet, please like and subscribe. You know, share the video with someone that is also a wrestling fan av, an avid wrestling fan or even send them one of our shorts we're getting ready to pop up some more shorts as well, just to kind of help out the channel as well too. But we definitely appreciate our audience currently. If you've been rocking with us so far, much love to you guys, especially as we're growing and becoming better of a channel.

Speaker 2:

But for the time being, thanks to Masako it's and becoming better over channel but for the time being, thanks to Masako, it's yo swags which are in the building. All that good stuff. Listen, you gotta. You gotta figure out how to do that without it like breaking it. Cause you better. We'll see y'all.

Speaker 1:

I can't do a high pitch. All right, peace guys, have a good one.