Lord Xzae Interview!

Wrestling enthusiast Lord Xzae joins as the podcast's first guest, bringing deep knowledge of wrestling history and an impressive collection of wrestling figures. The conversation explores wrestling origins, collector culture, and candid opinions on the current wrestling landscape across WWE and AEW.

• Wrestling origin stories featuring HBK vs. Undertaker and Kane's debut
• Creating a personal Mount Rushmore with Shawn Michaels, Eddie Guerrero, Stone Cold, and RVD
• AEW's struggle to connect with broader audiences due to lack of "cool factor"
• Hip-hop's unmistakable influence on wrestling culture and audience engagement
• Toy collecting adventures from Dragon Ball Z figures to wrestling memorabilia
• Stories of running into WWE's Adam Rose at Walmart while hunting for Kane figures
• The surprising value of vintage wrestling shirts and merchandise
• Bold WrestleMania predictions including Dominik Mysterio winning the IC Title

We'll be diving into wrestling and music connections next time, exploring how these worlds intertwine in ways that mainstream wrestling is only recently beginning to fully embrace.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Meeting Lord Zay: First Guest Introduction
• 6:21 Wrestling Origins and First Memories
• 17:19 Mount Rushmore of Wrestling Legends
• 21:29 AEW vs WWE: The Hip-Hop Connection
• 35:58 The Wrestling Toy Collector's Life
• 58:10 Vintage Wrestling Shirts and Collections
• 1:31:54 WrestleMania Predictions and Bold Takes

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:11

ladies, gentlemen, and everything in between. It's your boy swag switcher in the building and we are here with another episode of the big brothers of destruction. Now, this one's a little special because our boy, the Maziku, is out in Chicago I do believe that's the good old CM punk country area. Right now he's out handling some business, very similarly to when I was out in Texas handling some things and doing some shows and all that good stuff. Well, he'll be back soon.

Speaker 1: 0:46

So in the meantime I called an audible, I got one of the homies and he is about to bless us with being our very first guest on the podcast. Now, before I introduce him, I've actually brought him up in a previous podcast before and if you look into the background where he's sitting, you might remember exactly what I was talking about at that time. But let me just preface to him right now, and that's the fact that the first time you're a guest, second time you get your own stuff out of the kitchen and you can fix your plate whenever you're ready, just putting that out there, and that's for anyone else who ends up being a guest first time on this podcast. But this is the homie, my boy lord's, they go ahead. I'll let you take the floor, give a little introduction for yourself, because I know who you are.

Speaker 2: 1:44

I mean yeah, we've known each other for a while. What up? What up is, uh, your favorite side boy, aka the local competitor?

Speaker 1: 1:53

ah, I like that oh oh uh, lord zay, how y'all doing as I drop something on the ground here and listen when it comes to your boy, lord zay, like something that I have come to understand and see and notice about him, especially when it comes to the wrestling, like I know, I've been in wrestling and I know a lot of wrestling, but this man's knowledge on wrestling, on certain things he knows how to get down to such a minute detail. It's almost as if he went to school for it or something that's a while yeah I never really noticed that.

Speaker 1: 2:38

But, yeah, like I, what was it?

Speaker 1: 2:41

When we was in te, texas last time or this past other week, right, we were talking about wrestling among the group of nerdcore artists and everything and someone had asked a question and I was like I knew the answer and I gave the answer and then you followed it up with yeah, swag's right.

Speaker 1: 3:01

And then you, you put the fine details into it and, like, broke it down on an extra level. That like like one of those things where, like I think I, like I knew that, but like you, was getting down to like day and almost time and seconds when it came to like how he was breaking it down to him, like and I, I'm like, I know I'm knowledgeable and I know I'm pretty certain, I know for a fact that, um, the wrestling friends that we have, I almost feel as if, like I'm like the grandfather to a certain degree because, like it was, it started with me and then god bless us, so our boy cecil, it was him and then we just started bringing this family together and bringing everybody into the loop, type thing. But there's a certain point where it's like damn, my kids been grown up and guy little smart type thing and I'm just like, hey, like where, where did they get all this knowledge from?

Speaker 2: 4:07

I always say, uh, it's wild, how much wrestling has helped my music career. It's insane, just because everybody's a wrestling fan, let's get him. You just gotta find out like everybody just waits for that moment, like can I about this? And as soon as it gets brought up, it's just boom, the amount of like doors that is open for me and like, yeah, it's wild. So like I guess, like I was joking about it at the barbecue when we had what was it? 97 Raw on yes Early 97.

Speaker 2: 4:41

Yeah, I was joking about it and I was like like yeah, I'm just your wrestling encyclopedia, I just know way too much random shit for no fucking reason it's.

Speaker 1: 4:50

It's funny because, like you did bring up something that I was I was gonna bring up later when it comes to oh no, you're fine.

Speaker 1: 4:58

That, just if anything, that just means we're already locked in. We we already. I already know that. All right, good, we got conversation. So I didn't even have to write these talking points, really.

Speaker 1: 5:10

But the only the main thing that I did want to do, mostly because we are in the beginning stages of this podcast, and I know me and lj uh maz, we've been in this process of getting to a level of where just kind of getting the history out of where we've come from, why we became such big wrestling fans and how we got to the point that we're at right now.

Speaker 1: 5:36

So we're still actually in the process of asking each other the big questions, and so I'm going to throw a couple of those big questions at you here, just so we'll almost get the audience acclimated to who you are and kind of sort of where your head's at, especially considering the fact that today you're a guest, but the next time you're here it's like you're just a part of the show. Now, that's just how it's going. Okay, that works so and so let's go ahead and start off for you, because I think I know I know a little bit of it, but let's go ahead and get the full bit of it. But it's like what is your wrestling origin story? How did it start, what's the first memory and how did we get here?

Speaker 2: 6:23

I got two. It's wild because one is an iconic match and the other one is a random Nitro moment. So I credit. The first match I ever watched was Shawn Michaels. Undertaker. Bad Blood In your House. Hell in a Cell. Debut of Kane. That's the first match I remember watching, great way to start. That's why HBK is my favorite wrestler of all time. Undertaker is up there. Will we separate Undertaker from Mark Calloway?

Speaker 1: 6:55

over here they're not listening Glenn Jacobs Kane two different people.

Speaker 2: 7:03

I saw a tweet. Your boy, glenn Jacobs, was bringing Kane into it. I'm like can we leave Kane alone? Anyways, we won't get political, we're just going to skirt that to the side. But the other one I randomly remember and it's from two different years, I thought they were the same year, but two different years was Hulk Hogan. I can't remember who his tag team partner was, but they were facing Roddy, roddy Piper and the Giant on a bat on a pole match that's the other around there.

Speaker 2: 7:42

That's the other match I really remember and I just remember piper going on giant shoulders and grabbing the bat down and hitting hogan with it. So those are my wrestling origins. Uh, attitude era. Uh, I remember bits and pieces. You know we were young. Uh, definitely ruthless aggression era I was all in uh, like you can't really see it, but like I have a ring full of figures up there from my time. I kept them all. I think I went all the way up to 2010 was when I stopped watching wrestling.

Speaker 1: 8:20

Very, very good time to stop.

Speaker 2: 8:23

Yeah, whenever Miz was champion very, very good time to stop. Yeah, whenever Miz was champion, that's when I stopped.

Speaker 1: 8:32

That's crazy because that's when it was. It got a little bit better, but then they dropped it. Fun fact, I was there for that show, were you really? Yeah, it was that Raw, because Nexus came out there. It jumped, jumped cena, but then he cashed in and I remember losing my. I lost my shit for two reasons that night because I'm a big nexus boy. Yeah, at that particular show I remember I bought the nexus t-shirt, I bought the hat and I even think I bought the hat and I even think I bought the girlfriend that I was with at the time. I bought her something Nexus.

Speaker 2: 9:12

Better get that back, man. We'll talk about that later with those wrestling shirts, those wrestling shirts worth the money.

Speaker 1: 9:20

The craziest thing is, because I don't remember. The craziest thing is he might still actually have it, which is wild, like I'm sure if I ask her she probably might and she probably would let me have it because we're cool now, Like you know.

Speaker 2: 9:34

Yeah, Just to set her up. You know I'm short of some cash. Can I get that Nexus shirt back?

Speaker 1: 9:45

But, um, I remember like they came out and I'm I'm like screaming at the top of my lungs, I'm holding the shirt on, I got the hat on and everything like, and he's later he looked at me and he pointed at me. I was like like it was me, my brother and my mother and I want to say my, my little nephew. My nephew was there at the time. He was little, little at that time. It was like my mom and my brother and my girl at the time. They both looked at me. He's like he's pointing at you because I was the only guy in the audience repping Nexus like this this is me. He turns and he's like. I'm like which boy are you? Oh, boy.

Speaker 2: 10:26

You couldn't tell me?

Speaker 1: 10:26

nothing. You couldn't tell me nothing that night, fam Could not. But then they came out there and they jumped them and Miz won that belt. Oh man, it was lit, very lit, anytime Raw comes to Orlando usually something big happens, but it's home.

Speaker 1: 10:51

It's home base exactly, and even way back then before it became like the crew home base, because like a raw let me see here when it comes to those events. So so I was there for that. I was there when Evan Bourne Was it that one? I think when Evan Bourne got caught with that RKO, I do.

Speaker 2: 11:15

That was in. Orlando that was in Orlando.

Speaker 1: 11:20

And then, when Undertaker chokeslammed American Badass, taker chokeslammed Kurt Angle off the TitanTron. That was my first Raw, and that was in Orlando, at the PD Waterhouse. God rest its soul, because that place is no longer there. But, um, but yeah. So Going back for you, though, so Origins Story, those are your soul, because that place is no longer there, but, but yeah, so going back to for you, though, so origin story, those are your, those are your two earliest wrestling memories how did you find wrestling?

Speaker 2: 11:55

oh, we saw races on Puerto Rican brother.

Speaker 1: 11:57

Everybody loves wrestling you know what that that sums up but so like. Was it like our brother was in the wrestling?

Speaker 2: 12:08

okay, so it was the brother. Yeah, my brother was in the wrestling, he was into the 80s. Uh, you know, big uh razor ramon fan. That was translated to me. I have a joke where, uh, if you are a Latino male from the age of, let's say, 25 to 45, you love Razor Ramon. That time period, you just love Razor Ramon. Which is crazy.

Speaker 1: 12:36

I do believe Scott Hall, if I remember correctly, he's white as snow, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 12:41

White as snow, yeah, yeah yeah, razor was the first Latino representation that we had, which is wild because, you know, pedro Morales was a champion in WWE. But we were recognized, razor, before we recognized Pedro Morales.

Speaker 1: 13:02

What's his name? The other Puerto Rican wrestler from that time? That was big.

Speaker 2: 13:08

Clavio Vega. Oh yeah.

Speaker 1: 13:13

See that, told me everything You're like. Oh, is that?

Speaker 2: 13:15

Yeah, nah, there was a whole faction of Los Puerto Ricans. We don't even remember.

Speaker 1: 13:23

But that Razor Ramon.

Speaker 2: 13:24

Razor Ramon. Razor Ramon, that Cheeto, he was one of us. He was ambiguous enough To all Latinos when we all could claim him. Razor's Cuban nah, he's Puerto Rican. Nah, he's Dominican. Razor was what we wanted Razor to be.

Speaker 1: 13:42

That's actually a really Interesting point Because he had all of the features, yeah, oddly, like from the face, the, the, the, the hairy chest and everything the the slick black hair and all that like he literally checked all the Latino boxes, and even more so the fact that he was a white guy and of course he's portraying this persona. So it's like he doesn't really know any Spanish. He never. He would have some of the Spanish mannerisms. Because I look back and I'm all like there's certain points where I'm like why did we believe that's so hard?

Speaker 2: 14:37

Fraser Scott. I don't know, there's something about it. You look at it, it's so racist, it's so we just let razor slide because he was so cool, which is, like I is weirdly enough that we think about it like the nwo uh, nwo was heavily inspired by hip-hop culture. You can't tell me otherwise. Kevin ash was big into hip-hop, so was razor, and it's just funny that hogan was a part of it.

Speaker 1: 15:05

Listen, hey, put kevin ash into hip-hop, so was Razor, and it's just funny that Hogan was a part of it. Listen, kevin Nash into hip-hop, fam have you. He is a strip-hub runner and a hoo-boo rocker. I'm sure he was rocking Echo. As what fam? What was that? There was actually a meme that I saw about it in a video that proceeded where like showed just all like the heavy fubu wear rocking the button up big bold fubu letters on the shirt.

Speaker 2: 15:35

Like yeah, I think x-pac even said it like they got it a lot from nwa for the nwo and I was like that's, that's what's up, like it's again like the correlation, that's like. One of my favorite things that doesn't get brought up enough about wrestling is how much hip-hop influence is in wrestling and it's wild that doesn't get acknowledged for what it is.

Speaker 1: 16:00

Uh you're right, but I feel right now.

Speaker 2: 16:05

Oh, I have a big Hot take later if you want to talk about it.

Speaker 1: 16:09

But let's park the lot. Let's park the lot Because once again, there's a part where I wanted to bring up and speak on Music in WWE and wrestling in general, especially for Art artists like us, how it has heavily influenced us when it comes to wrestling bars and all this other stuff. And so, not because this has come up twice, not now, we're now we definitely are going to touch back onto the music issue and how music and wrestling going together. But, um, just to get a little more out of you getting to know you a bit, and you talking about razor ramon is kind of a good segue into this piece and whatnot, because I find it interesting and I've been seeing other people do it. I'm like, when I thought about it it was hard but I figured it out. And so for you of all time, wrestling across the board from start to finish, what's your Mount Rushmore looking like?

Speaker 2: 17:18

Mount Rushmore. Top two easily is HBK and Eddie Guer guerrero. That was my one and two. Uh, gotta give it to austin, because when I was a kid, austin was my favorite. Uh, one of my small segue memory um, just random things I remember as a kid, uh, my mom had bought me a rock backpack for school and I was so upset that it wasn't Austin. My mom went and returned the rock backpack and got me the Stone Cold Steve Austin backpack. So like that's one of my favorite memories of that. Oh, yeah, she is. So Austin's up there Now. I never have a solid for because I always like, depending on the day when you ask me, interchange. But just to keep it not all, wwe ECW RVD is probably up there right now as one of the biggest innovators in the game, high-flying and all that. He's one big, you know, proponent of it. Like a lot of aw can be traced back to that prime ecw run and like so I'm gonna give it to rvd and like observation yeah, I mean.

Speaker 2: 18:40

Yeah, I mean a lot of like like ecw always remember for like the new jacks and like saboos of it all, but like rvd was out there doing stuff mike, awesome, uh taz like they were out there wrestling, wrestling, like we forget. Ray mysterio came from there, eddie came from there before he went to wcw so yeah no, um, I'm gonna. I'm gonna give it a rvd right now, just because, like he was one of the ones I was like cool about it.

Speaker 1: 19:10

I actually literally bringing up rvd. I just got done watching a uh, uh, one of them van vliet little uh interviews with rv and you making that comparison About the style of ECW and doing that little comparison To AEW. He actually kind of brought that up A little bit and referring to himself Kind of thing, because I've, on more than one occasion, have kind of gone on my little bit of a rant. It comes to how I feel about the product that AEW is putting out and the way that they kind of do things and the presentation of the way that they sell and don't sell. And there's there's a lot of things that I'm like because I like aew and I love watching it, but there are certain bits that I'm just all like, yeah, where it constantly like wants to take me out of it.

Speaker 1: 20:15

The best way I've described it is like aew is like watching who k15 play on PC versus PC mode, where they're going to fight each other, they're going to beat each other down and they might do their finish on each other a couple of times and they'll kick out. And though this shows their bodies are, you know, the body damage is all red kind of thing when they get back up. They're not selling that all red body damage until they red kind of thing when they get back up. They're not selling that all red body damage until they feel they need to. You know, like you could have, you know, just got done being in like a painful sharpshooter and like the character almost tapped out, but then the person gets back up on his feet and then picks you up for a gorilla press real video game type-ish, not selling the fact that your legs and your back should be busted right now.

Speaker 2: 21:12

I mean, yeah, like AEW, alright, we'll just go with the hot take right now. But I think the main problem AEW has is AEW's not cool, and what I mean by that is AEW is for wrestling not cool, and what I mean by that is AW is for wrestling nerds. And I say that with all respect as somebody who is a wrestling nerd. I like AW, I like my. Sometimes I like to see just dope moves, movesets. I love an Ospreay match, bro, seeing Ospreay in person One of the dopest experiences ever.

Speaker 2: 21:47

The energy that was there was really really cool. But the main thing I will always bring up and I think back about Edge talking about it in his podcast was the black audience and going back into hip-hop. Edge once said being over is cool, but once I realized I was over with the brothers, that was a whole nother level. And recently I went to a NXT house show and it was predominantly white audience. I was there but they were doing the chance from the performance center. Those chance from the performance center was a. They are a strong black audience there and those chants get over because they're cool, they're unique the obafemi, the oofs, the, the jada parkers, like all that. They're getting over because of that audience and I've talked to mega man about it was like aw doesn't have that cool factor, they don't. They haven't really reached out to their black audience.

Speaker 1: 22:50

I see what you mean. I'm connecting, I connect the dots on that.

Speaker 2: 22:53

You know what I'm saying. Urban culture makes shit dope. It's always what it is. The reason why WWE is on fire is because even a, you know, even though they're oh, they're testing the limits of you know, all this right wing stuff, but they're testing limits. But you still have randy orton, you know, you still have those people that we, we, you know we still love, like finn baller's dope. You know, you're gonna love fin, love Finn Balor. Nxt. You got that crossover. I think that's what the separation is. And yeah, they're bringing in hip hop artists and stuff like that, which is cool. I don't know what it is, but AEW needs to tap into it more because when Swerve got over, you know he got over with hip hop. The best way to put it got over, you know, got over like with hip hop. Yeah, like I think that's my biggest hot take about AW. It's just like they wrestle for the audience they have, but they're not wrestling for the audience they should be able to get okay, that's.

Speaker 1: 24:00

That is. That's actually a good point. That's a good point. A good take, though it's a good point and a good take, though it's hot. It's a hot take, that I also. I'm 100% there with you.

Speaker 2: 24:14

I enjoy AEW, bro. I pay money, I go to live shows. We've done plenty of pay-per-view watches. I haven't bought a pay-per-view of my own because $50 in this economy you're crazy For some pay-per-view watches.

Speaker 1: 24:26

I haven't, you know, bought a pay-per-view of my own, because $50 in this economy you crazy, but for some pay-per-view, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2: 24:31

No, that checks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like going to a live AW show is wild. The energy from that crowd is dope, but like they just don't have things that get people over forever.

Speaker 1: 24:43

Yeah. And then when they have, have things that get people over forever, yeah. And then when they have, sometimes they kind of do the thing, like when they kind of have something. It's like once they have it, they're like it's like the kid who caught the football for the first time, yeah. And now they're like I don't know what to do next after that.

Speaker 2: 25:04

You're holding Danny Garcia in your hands right now, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1: 25:11

I love Like let me put it this way Because Danny Garcia, like, when I really started paying attention to him was when he was with that other guy and the dude was trying to make him stop dancing and stuff like that.

Speaker 1: 25:23

He was going through all of it and I was like that's when he first really caught my attention and from that point he, from that point and then forward, yo dang garcia has just been doing it for me and like to the point where because, like he's usually mostly on collision, like I started looking forward to Collision Back when I had a steady way to watch AEW, because for a long time I didn't but they stream on Mac now and I have that so I can watch it live now to somebody else about the fact, like yes, you can go online and watch you know the like after it's been taped.

Speaker 1: 26:10

but there's just something about watching it when it's happening, when it's when it first shows up, that thing, and so I'm like, now I can get my awn like I want to. It's like because I need some more of that. Dann Garcia, his theme song Slap. His in-ring performing is Slap. He's a decent promo for all that matter, and he makes me believe everything that he's doing Because he's also a good seller.

Speaker 2: 26:41

Now, did you remember he's current TNT champion? Yes, yeah. If you watched Dynam's current TNT champion, yes yeah. If you watched Dynamite, you couldn't tell, oh yeah.

Speaker 1: 26:53

Yeah, yeah, because we're too busy dropping people on bikes and picking them to the back and all that craziness.

Speaker 2: 27:04

I'm glad you brought that spot up. How do you feel about that spot?

Speaker 1: 27:11

Oh, because, funny enough, my counterpart, my other brother of destruction. He loved it, but he's a deathmatch guy.

Speaker 1: 27:25

alright, I have a problem with deathmatches and you know I love a good, bloody, gruesome, hardcore match and stuff like that and I love crazy spots of that nature, but it's what you do with it after he got dropped on it. But at the end of the night not only did he win the match, but then he left on his own two feet like it never happened. They didn't make it important to me and I'm like it was cool in the moment when it happened. They're trying to pull it out of his back, yeah it's making the skin, coral and everything, and I'm like this is.

Speaker 1: 28:22

And then they go through the rest of the match and then it's like 10 minutes later you kind of forgot that it happened because of the BS of the match, and then, of course, how the finish went down and whatnot. And then no, sel Moxley over here, like he didn't just go through a grueling match, leaves on his own accord like everything's fine oh, my problem with that spot was okay.

Speaker 2: 28:56

First of all, the match was boring. I'm gonna throw that out there oh uh.

Speaker 1: 29:01

You know what else was boring the the last time we had that match on the pay-per-view on the main event. I literally fell asleep on that match and I'm sitting here watching it on stream, watching it on stream with the maziku in my ears and we're talking and I wake up. I literally I wake up and I'm like it's been two hours later. The streams over, he's hung up and I see a message like a bro, I think you passed out on me and I'm like good.

Speaker 2: 29:34

I mean the match was boring. I will say like I was sewn out when that match started. I peaked interest when that spot happened, cause, like they teased that fucking bat so many times, you're like, oh, no, one's ever gonna actually get hit by it. Seeing someone get hit by it, I was like, oh okay, that was cool, I thought the spot was cool. And then, yeah, after that I was like, oh okay, that was cool, I thought the spot was cool. And then, yeah, after that I was like, oh, we're just going to do the running shenanigans of everything and all this is set up Christian versus Edge again.

Speaker 1: 30:10

For no belt.

Speaker 2: 30:11

For no belt.

Speaker 1: 30:13

Yes, just to be beating the hell out of each other, which I guess is fine, but like Teasing.

Speaker 2: 30:19

Dax. Turning on Dawson, I forget their name Cash, ftr. I always get their NXT names or AW names confused. Teasing that I'm like I don't really want to see FTR go against each other. First of all I have no interest. And then seeing I was like, okay, all that for what? We didn't need to have this match Because it's squabble, because you have the same ending as the pay-per-view, except a Christian Cage pin. So I was like let's just move on to Swerve and hopefully it'll be cool. I hope it's cool. But one of the things about AEW I talk about is you have, I don't know. You can make the argument the same for SmackDown, raw and NXT. But when I watch Raw, I know who's on Raw and I know what's happening on Raw. When I watch Dynamite, I don't know what's happening to Collision. Either you split it up or you don't at this point, because Danny Garcia is TNT champion.

Speaker 1: 31:34

No real screen time.

Speaker 2: 31:36

No real screen time. He's got no screen time Okada. Okada is continental champion, which they're setting up that, finally. They're finally setting that up. Omega is international champion, which I know, which is cool. Omega took that belt and did something. He's fucking Kenny Omega, like. He's the greatest of all time. One of who are the trio champions? Give me five seconds.

Speaker 1: 32:09

The Death Riders. Death Riders yes, it's funny. The only reason why I know that was because I was trying to answer another question that I was looking was because I was trying to answer another question that I was looking for. I was trying to see what is the AEW women's roster and as I'm scrolling through I'm like wait Pac meant that they got the belt.

Speaker 2: 32:29

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1: 32:30

Oh.

Speaker 2: 32:34

That storyline is going nowhere with Will Uda. Is he going to leave the Death Riders and stay with the Death Riders? Between that storyline and what's the other one, austin Theory and Grayson Waller? I don't know who's going to turn face first. I don't think neither of them are going to at this point.

Speaker 1: 32:52

Who cares? They keep almost teasing, kind of teasing, and then they ease off of it, then they go full into it, then they ease off, they ease off of it and then like, what are we doing with those?

Speaker 2: 33:08

Who else is champions? Who's a tag team champion? That one, I actually don't know.

Speaker 1: 33:12

I don't either, actually. Oh, Hurt Business.

Speaker 2: 33:14

Hurt Business, which I feel like they gave them those votes, because what Bobby Lashley should be going for? The main title.

Speaker 1: 33:22

Yes, but the main title picture is so mucked up right now and it's like there's nothing for Bobby right now over there in that area.

Speaker 1: 33:35

And so just to continue at least making the H hurt business relevant and, I guess, slowly pushing them some and stuff like that. And I guess there's this little thing going on with mjf that they're trying to push a little more into. So it's like they're, it's like, I feel, as if like for it's like because they have so many big stars and whatnot, like the really, really big ones, it's like they're trying to figure out what to do just to get them on TV.

Speaker 2: 34:09

They're playing GMO not hard With the cap off somehow, you know what.

Speaker 1: 34:17

I mean, yeah, damn, that's great, that's a good one, I like that.

Speaker 2: 34:28

I mean one of my favorite jokes. I remember when CM Punk was there and he got injured. I was like man, tony Khan never played GMO in his shows. You could tell he was on bread. You don't put him in the match next night no, that's not how that works that man was on red. What are you?

Speaker 1: 34:46

doing listen. His stamina is 21 and you're not gonna give him the pre-workout to make sure he doesn't get injured for the match. Let him take a break. Give him a fucking spa day some.

Speaker 2: 35:03

But I mean that's the argument for AEW is too many titles, and I hate bringing up the Twitter arguments about it, but I kind of agree. Granted, there is more titles in WWE than there is in AEW, but the difference is they are show based yes, they're show based and on the show to a certain degree.

Speaker 1: 35:27

Each title gets a good amount of shine. They pace it better and it's like for their superstars, who we know should be in the main event. They, they know how to give them enough light, where it's all like yeah, no, no, we, we know these guys are big here they are. Look at them for a bit.

Speaker 2: 35:49

You know what I'm saying for the most part, unless it's like a big four pay-per-view you can get away with just watching one show and having an understanding what's happening.

Speaker 2: 36:02

I mean I kind of do it. Yeah, like you just want to watch Raw, you can watch Raw and you can follow. Like, okay, braun's Icy Champion, gunther's Heavyweight Champion, you could follow that. But like, if I'm trying to, if I only watch Dynamite, there's too much wrestling to watch. I used to watch it all and I'm trying to. If I only watch Dynamite I, there's too much wrestling to watch. I, I used to watch it all and I'm like you know, I have a life it's a.

Speaker 1: 36:23

Thing.

Speaker 2: 36:25

I'll catch up on Twitter. If anything, I refuse to give it his new name. This is they're not show based, in a sense. If you, if you told me that Danny Garcia in a TNT title will only be defended on TNT, bam cool, got it. But you go back and forth, I don't really care.

Speaker 1: 36:51

And not to mention because we have Dynamite and Collision and then we have the super secret show called Ring of Honor.

Speaker 2: 37:03

Yeah, that's happening. I laugh because they brought up Billie Starks and they were like she is the former Ring of Honor TV champion. I mean, who the fuck is the current women's TV champion in Ring of Honor?

Speaker 1: 37:25

Damn, that is me on a regular basis because, like, because what happens for me and I think I was talking about this on one of the last podcasts where it's like I'll be watching and it really happens a lot, with actually no prime example. All right, will osprey last the the last episode? Right, he had a match with this guy named a I think it was a fox or something oh ar fox ar red velvet.

Speaker 1: 37:46

By the way, red velvet is the current woman's tv champion okay and I kind of like her, but it's like so ar Fox versus Will Ospreay. So going into this match, I had no idea who AR Fox was and the way they presented him I thought, oh, this is a jobber match.

Speaker 2: 38:11

Oh damn.

Speaker 1: 38:12

I know Now. Ar Fox politely proved me wrong. He's dope and I can see that he's dope, but he's also Going against.

Speaker 2: 38:26

Osprey, you know. Okay, so like that's another. I hate dog shitting on AEW. I hate doing so much, but like AEW Cause I do enjoy so much, but like AEW because I do enjoy the product. I don't want to be one of those people like, oh, he hates AEW. No, I really do enjoy watching AEW. But one thing about AEW is like they. You don't ever get the feeling that anyone can win that match. If you set up Ospreay versus somebody who's on the lower mid card, you know Ospreay versus somebody who's on the lower midcard, you know Ospreay's winning with why I thought he was a jobber now like I said he proved me he wasn't, but at the end of the day which which Mazagou?

Speaker 1: 39:12

he got onto me about it because I was like the way he finished him. He didn't use his finishing move.

Speaker 2: 39:20

Well, Ospreay's one of those has multiple yes but, the move that he used.

Speaker 1: 39:25

That's not the real one. That was his light work. Finish.

Speaker 2: 39:32

It's not the pay-per-view one, it's not the one he's going to His light work one.

Speaker 1: 39:38

Yeah, like the way I saw that match was like when goku enters in the martial arts tournament and he's going up against somebody and they're giving it their all and goku is still fighting that base and he's like, and then at the very end he'll be all, which is exactly what happened throughout it all. Like he impressed Osprey a little bit, you know, fox got a little bit of his stuff in and then it got to a point where our neighborhood Billy goat kind of looked down and was like not bad, bruv, but you still need training and they need wrap that shit up. Like, yeah, put them down, bladed him with the twitch blade, move whatever it is oh, the hidden blade hidden blade.

Speaker 1: 40:29

That's what it is. Him with the hidden blade. It's one of those things like in the process of it, as seeing him fighting other people, I'm like Osprey didn't break a sweat. This was light work.

Speaker 2: 40:43

Eric Fox is dope. He's like an indie legend, if you want to put it. He's like a homicide amazing bread.

Speaker 1: 40:52

I've been put on game. I have been promptly told to be like some respect on that fox's name, sir, and so I I'm like, okay, but the way it was presented to me, because not even just the way it was presented, specifically on how it was presented when he was coming down to the ring, taz, I think it was Taz who kind of sort of dissed him, because he kind of sort of like, when the commentators were going back and forth, there was a certain point where it was like, well, this is AR Fox, da, da da. It was like, yeah, but he's no Osprey. Like they literally laid that shit out for me.

Speaker 2: 41:38

I'm like We'll put it this way If you are a main event player in ROH, then you are a mid-carder at best in AEW. It's a Sunday night heat player Like velocity guy those guys could go put on some bangers in ROH and be like alright, roh doesn't have that problem of like, okay, this guy's gonna win that AWS. Everybody's kinda like even playing ground shit. Uh, who who's TV champion? Now Lee Mori, now Lee Moriarty. Lee Moriarty's fucking dope. Yeah, I like him.

Speaker 2: 42:24

Yeah, but when's the last time you saw Lee Moriarty win on Dynamite or Collision?

Speaker 1: 42:31

in that fact.

Speaker 2: 42:32

Yeah, but he's champion in ROH. I also call the Ring of Honor main championship the here Damn title. It's to give somebody who should be a world champion that world champion moniker, but not give them the world champion title. You know what I mean. Like here, damn, just take it. Like Cesaro. When he came out I was like Cesaro's never been a world champion. Claudio gets there. You know what, do you give him the always title. Well, now Claudio has been a world champion. Even though he's the third guy in his group. He's the world champion. You know, here they am damn Briscoe. You wanted Mark to get that. His story is amazing. You're not going to give him the AW championship.

Speaker 1: 43:26

No, Well, here you are, take that one. That's a term.

Speaker 2: 43:36

Eddie Kingston. I love Eddie Kingston, that's a term, yeah, eddie Kingston. One like I love Eddie Kingston. I know Ringwork and Promo 2. I love Eddie Kingston in person so much I mean he's right here, that's my dude. Love Eddie Kingston, uh, should know, would be nowhere near the AEW main championship. Oh, absolutely not. But the storyline of him becoming a world champion is really dope because of his backstory and all the stuff he's fought through. Here you go, take the ROH one and what did he have?

Speaker 1: 44:06

he had like that he had three titles. He had the strong championship in Japan and Continental and that's another thing that I think I feel like, with the way that aw kind of works, sometimes be like miss monet just real quick.

Speaker 2: 44:27

The roh title was like post ruthless aggression big gold era title equivalent I see it you when you give it to. Christian to Mark Henry, your boy Kane yeah.

Speaker 1: 44:45

That's the equivalent as someone who loved the big gold death and felt and personally felt that the big gold was better than the WWE title.

Speaker 2: 44:59

No, it wasn't, but I still believe you know you don't give Jack swagger the WWF championship. I'm sorry, wwe championship.

Speaker 1: 45:09

You give them. Don't talk about my belt like that.

Speaker 2: 45:13

You give them the big gold.

Speaker 1: 45:16

It is right there. Don't, don't, don't, don't, don there, don't disrespect him.

Speaker 2: 45:20

I'm sorry.

Speaker 1: 45:21

There's levels to this. Don't do that. No, no, no. I can't sit here with that hey so this has been a great podcast.

Speaker 2: 45:32

But like let me talk about my ECW title, Forget that, that's nothing. Yeah, but like it's the all right, let's let me talk about my ecw title. All right, like that, forget that. Oh, that's nothing yeah the last ecw world heavyweight champion is ezekiel jackson.

Speaker 1: 45:46

Like let's listen he deserves so much more respect on his god damn name.

Speaker 2: 45:52

I boy, but this right here is domination I just, I just want to throw it out there. Like WWE, they originated that shit too. Here's the here damn title. Oh, christian needs to be world champion because Edge is retiring. Well, here, take that.

Speaker 1: 46:10

I'm not going to agree with you and I'm actually going to resent that statement because I don't appreciate it at all. Actually, I don't like that.

Speaker 2: 46:23

Search your feelings, you know they'd be true.

Speaker 1: 46:32

Don't do that to me, stop it. No, oh man, funny enough, let's switch gears a little bit. Yeah, because once again we're actually still kind of on point with what I was wanting to talk to you, because all of that was exactly where we was getting to go to. But the segue a little bit, because you brought up your uh, that eddie kingston figure and whatnot, and as you're sitting in a room of figures of all kinds, yeah, like like one day once I figure it out, because prior to us starting this particular recording, we had all kinds of technical difficulties to figure things out. We actually still didn't quite figure out everything, but Jerry rigged it and we're doing it.

Speaker 2: 47:35

The steel cage is held by zip ties for good.

Speaker 1: 47:37

Yeah, you know, Don't do a suplex on it. You know Silk Slam instead. But you are obviously an avid collector. You put it nicely yeah, and just to kind of shed some extra light on it here, for you and for the crowd and the masses that will be seeing when it comes to your collecting when and where did it actually start?

Speaker 2: 48:13

uh, toy Story 3 really Toy Story 3?

Speaker 2: 48:16

really Toy Story 3 technically, my collection started when I was a kid. Shout out to my mom for keeping my Dragon Buzzy collection. Mom used to buy me a bunch of Dragon Buzzy toys and she kept them in a box. I had a bag of X-men figures that like I still like randomly while I was younger, pulled out and played with um. But I saw toy story 3 in theaters and like that whole you know, giving up your toys and all that shit made me sad. So I went home and I grabbed I was living in orlando and I went with my parents I grabbed like two of my Dragon Ball Z figures Like I had a Goku statue, so I brought that home.

Speaker 2: 49:05

And then when I moved back to Tampa and I had access to all of them again, I was like, oh, let me just display them. So I started displaying them. And then I just started going to conventions and I would just see some Marvel figures, because I was really big into Marvel at that time and I was like, well, I don't have this character, let me add him. I don't have this character, add him. And then it just spiraled out into this fucking hodgepodge of a mess that is this and yeah, that's how we got here literally just watching one movie, getting sad. I was like I want to bring a toy home to now, like, well, I know all these are here, put them up, and yeah.

Speaker 1: 49:46

And now going to a store like I want to bring all of those home too.

Speaker 2: 49:51

Yeah yeah. I'm actually on a three month break for myself of buying no figures. A I don't have any space and B is just a way to save money right now. It's actually been going pretty well. I almost did fumble, because apparently no one cares about Spider-Man Unlimited besides me, oh, what you found. Some found a Spider-Man Unlimited figure. I'm like why, besides me?

Speaker 1: 50:23

Oh, what you found some Found a Spider-Man Unlimited figure, I'm like why, who?

Speaker 2: 50:27

Where? At Target? Oh Target, yeah, it's the retro line, it's on the big card. Oh OK, yeah, I feel like I'm the only person that gives a shit about Spider-Man Unlimited, because they were pegging up that thing. That was all that was left.

Speaker 2: 50:45

And I was like ooh, and I grabbed it and I flipped it back and I looked at the other characters in the line. I was like, oh yeah, there's Kane. Yeah, no, that's going to be gone. Chameleon with the J Jonah mask yeah, that's gone. I get it. I get it why we just have Spider-Man Unlimited. But I love me some Spider-Man Unlimited. It was Spider-Man Unlimited, batman Beyond those were the two. We never got to finish Spider-Man Unlimited. It was left on a cliffhanger.

Speaker 1: 51:13

Which is unfortunate. Those, because I really like that show too.

Speaker 2: 51:21

I'm. I'm praying to God once my three months are up, that figure is still warming, that's still warming and you're like alright, that's that. One's coming home like. I've just been staring at it. Laura has been testing me, though, though, because they did drop the 30th anniversary Goofy Movie pops and they dropped Powerline, the Powerline pop with the glasses, so he doesn't have the fucking beady eyes, it's just a nice little vinyl pop.

Speaker 1: 51:56

I might have to find that.

Speaker 2: 52:00

Once we bring the podcast back, we gotta figure all this out. But that is currently up for pre-sell on big bad boy store. Oh nice, it's up. It's up for pre-sell. Uh, jopium, uh, I felt bad because I showed him it. Uh, in the car we're in the. He pre-ordered that so fast.

Speaker 1: 52:19

Listen, let it be known, people. That's what he does. I'll be sitting here minding my business, being a good Christian boy, saving my money and paying my bills. So now I'll get a. Oh, what Alex is doing. Doing it's a link. Oh my gosh, what's this link? And I click on it, and I guess it's my fault for letting him know about the stuff that I like, because he was really good about that.

Speaker 1: 52:50

If I find out something you like, I will send it to you like literally the other day, and I actually hate myself for remembering because now, after this podcast, I am actually going to buy it.

Speaker 1: 53:05

But he found on this one I think it's Paxson website that they have not any kind of cane shirt shirt and I talked about this in a prior podcast. But they have the old school inverted color cane on a t-shirt where he's wearing, instead of it being the, the black on top of red, it is the red on top of the black. And this is also when I call him, when he was going through his uh, fresh and so clean era because he got a girlfriend now and it's like that was such a particular time that I'm just like Cain was doing it for me and I felt so heartbroken when that Jezebel betrayed him and then went to his best friend in X-Pac. And then, on top of that, if I'm'm not mistaken, the blowout was kane actually still freaking lost which is even worse which is even worse because now, me being the kane man, I've boy.

Speaker 1: 54:09

I actually had way too many tears over kane, but nonetheless, this man found a shirt with him on it. I'm just all like I gotta get that now. And then followed it up with a Lord Zedd shirt what I've never seen, a Lord Zedd shirt in my life and you had two Crazy. So I'm just like damn, why are you trying to make me blow? So I'm just like damn, why are you trying to make me bloat? I'm trying to save money to do other things. My bad, I'm trying to pay bills and now here I am, buying these three shirts.

Speaker 2: 54:51

I actually have two funny Kane stories. I'll tell the toy hunting one first. So like I was getting back into like ww figures and shout out to my boy, my boy josh, but he had told me that a cane figure dropped, uh, it was a basic cane like. It wasn't like elite or anything, it was just a regular, regular cane figure. And I went to multiple walmart's trying to find a damn thing. The last Walmart I went to I ran into all people, adam Rose Of all people. I ran into Adam Rose at Walmart. It was post-release. Adam Rose man was looking. I ran into adam rose twice since his release and both times were sketchier and sketchier he don't.

Speaker 2: 55:49

He don't even look like what he used to anymore no, I I ran into a fresh like two days released adam rose at the tattoo shop and he just had like random girls with him and one of the girls was getting a rose tattoo oh, here we go yeah, I'm like don't you got a whole kid and a wife, bro? Like I was thinking that I was getting tatted and I'm like hey, my business that's what something.

Speaker 1: 56:15

Why are you you so wait? So that's what one you ran, and then the one, so that's three. That's three different Adam Rose run-ins you've had.

Speaker 2: 56:24

Yeah, yeah, it's wild that Walmart one was just like the man was wearing like a big ass jacket. You could have told me he was on meth. I would have believed you because, like my man's face was like I'm talking about the definition of disheveled oh.

Speaker 1: 56:42

He was going through it.

Speaker 2: 56:43

Yeah, I was like man, whatever you just did, you felt like hold up big ambulance.

Speaker 1: 56:52

I wasn't trying to get all that in there, I actually I think I only I think I slightly, only slightly heard like oh, someone's in trouble nah, um, and the second cane story is when I actually met cane.

Speaker 2: 57:05

Uh, one more time, yeah, go rescue them, they're on the job they're on the job.

Speaker 1: 57:14

Love that for podcasting.

Speaker 2: 57:18

But the second time I met, the first time I met Kane was at DragonCon and I got my autograph from him and everything and I was talking to him and I told him that was my first match, like his debut as Kane, and he goes, yeah, that was 21 years ago. And I go yeah. And he goes, yeah, that was 21 years ago. And I go yeah. And he goes yeah. And he just looks at me and I kind of see the look in his eyes just realizing where the fuck time went, because I told him I was a child watching that.

Speaker 2: 57:50

So I was like I gave that man like a quarter-life crisis at that moment.

Speaker 1: 57:54

Dang that far-wished that was 20 years ago. I gave that man like a quarter life crisis at that moment. That far with that, I'm like that was 20 years ago.

Speaker 2: 57:59

20 years ago, 20 years ago yeah, oh man those are my two funny Kane moments, one with him and one because of him freaking when it comes to your figures, though, like when it comes to your wrestling ones.

Speaker 1: 58:21

what is like your prized wrestling figure?

Speaker 2: 58:26

Um, my basic Razor Ramon, that's back there because it's actually signed by Scott Hall, so that would be my prize one. Up there was the Enzo and Cass one you got from me signed as well, but that Razor one was, that's my prime one, just because that was the first time I got a figure signed by somebody.

Speaker 1: 58:50

And Scott Hall was so cool.

Speaker 2: 58:54

When I met him I showed up doing like a light cosplay of him and he had fixed my bandana and everything for me and I was like, alright, this is really dope, oh yeah, it was cool. It was a cool fucking moment, that is dope yeah, cause he saw, he recognized what I was trying to do. He's like, oh, let me fix the Tupac for you. Like he fixed it up and everything and took a picture.

Speaker 1: 59:21

Perfect. I think you got a picture of it. Like you got that picture somewhere in the room as well. I know I've seen it.

Speaker 2: 59:27

Yeah, I printed it out. So, yeah, that's my prize. Like I mean it's hard to say like I don't know, like my prize possession in my Marvel collection is my ROM Space Knight figure, which I have heat with John Cena over quite a connection to make there.

Speaker 1: 59:51

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 59:53

I love telling this story. Like the camp was small, especially for wrestlers. Me and John Cena shopped at the same toy store and Ron Space Knight is a very obscure Marvel character. He was made by Parker Brothers. It was a licensed character but for whatever reason, marvel said bet and just made one of the dopest comic book runs ever with this character. But they have zero rights to now.

Speaker 2: 1:00:25

So, but, like it's, I love the ROM Space Knight series. So at the time you could only really get one figure, a ROM, and that's the original 70s one. And this toy store I went to he had two of them. He had one out of the box, which is the one that was like 175, which is the one I wanted, and then one in the box was like 300 or something. So I was saving up to where, like I can afford the rom out of the box.

Speaker 2: 1:00:54

And the day I went to go get it it was gone and I was like damn, like someone bought it. And uh, red told me that's the shop owner's like yeah, cena bought it. And I was like the fuck, you mean cena bought it. He's like yeah, john cena bought that. And my uh gi joe thing, like it was a big GI Joe thing. I go. Cena got money. Why the fuck did Cena buy the one in the box? Why he had to buy the one that's out of the box? Hmm, did you feel me? I was like fuck you, cena. He could have bought the one in the box.

Speaker 2: 1:01:32

Undercut by the face of the WWE I was like that's always my random, like I have heat with Cena because he bought the one I wanted you know what I would love to see?

Speaker 1: 1:01:44

the day when you can just one day see Cena and be like by the way, cena, I got a bone to pick with you. You know that figure and I'm sure, like when you name it, he'll know it because it's a very specific thing he's like. You know, that's how yeah, I was coming to get that. Bye.

Speaker 2: 1:02:09

Fucking Cena, bro that. And then Matt Cardona buying the Dennis Rodman figure I wanted was also pretty funny. Oh, bro that. And then Matt Cardona buying the Dennis Robin figure I wanted was also pretty funny.

Speaker 1: 1:02:17

Oh, goodness you have some stiff competition out here in the toy collecting world, huh.

Speaker 2: 1:02:22

Right, that one was funny. I can't confirm if Matt Cardona got that Dennis Robin figure, but I'm using context clues because I had it saved on my eBay and then when I was going to go get it it was gone. And then I see on Instagram Matt Cardona holding the Dennis Rodman figure, doing this, talking about it, and I was just like. I was like I can't confirm that you bought it.

Speaker 1: 1:02:49

But like Well, the time is, the time is timing. Yeah, and I'm just like you motherfucking time is the time is timing.

Speaker 2: 1:02:55

Yeah, and I'm just like you, motherfucker First Cena then you.

Speaker 1: 1:03:00

That's actually even more funnier considering the fact that they used to be buddy, buddy and yeah that's, that's crazy, yeah, that is crazy.

Speaker 1: 1:03:14

And so now, when it comes to those kinds of things like that's crazy, that is crazy. And so now, when it comes to those kind of things like out of your wrestling figures, what wrestling figure do you think or you may actually know is like probably like the most, like, uh, like if you put it online right now and he was gonna sell it, you could probably buy a new house with it, or at least a nice tool shed, that's a good one.

Speaker 2: 1:03:41

Probably the Hasbro Kevin Owens figure because those went up in value, and mine's autographed by KO. That's a good one. I to like relook because I do have a defining moment. Shinsuke Nakamura, up there, I know one for some pennies. I have a I forgot what brand, that Eddie Guerrero one is up there. I have a defining moments. Taker to that guy for $2.99 at a target clearance, nice. I did pick up the Faces of Ra pack. It was like Hulk Hogan, stone Cold, becky Lynch of all people, and the Rocky Maivia figure. Okay, I picked up an Ollie's for a good price.

Speaker 2: 1:04:37

Yeah, yeah idea figure like, okay, is that I picked up all these for a good price? Um, yeah, places to find shit. Yeah, no, oh, oh, uh, my, I know my darby allen and, uh, brody king chase figures are up there as well in price. Uh, it's very hard for me to say because I haven't price point a lot of these in a while, because I rarely try to buy them reselled, you know yeah, you're a.

Speaker 2: 1:04:59

You're a out and wild Pokemon catcher yeah, like I do know I have some that are worth pretty pennies now, like my, if I I remember I think I had a Funko Pop that's worth a couple hundred. Like I think I had a Funko Pop that's worth a couple hundred, I think my old Undertaker up there is actually worth it because it has the old logo. It's hard for me to say. I know my collection is at least double digits in value, if not pushing triple, at this point.

Speaker 1: 1:05:40

Oh yeah, easy, Easy. I'd push to say even more, and I would even say I would push to say it's easy that if we were just judging by the wrestling figures alone, Alright, like this alone.

Speaker 2: 1:05:55

The Taker Pop I have up there, $80. For the pop, yeah, On Amazon, of all places Selling it from Funko themselves, $80.

Speaker 1: 1:06:12

Listen, when it comes to the toy game, for those who are looking and watching. Whenever I'm just out and about and I'm going to the store, it's because of this guy right here that, for whatever reason, I'm going to the store looking for shoes that's way over there, for shoes, that's way over there. But before I leave I have to at least take a peek at the, at the toys, just to see what might be there and usually when I find something and I'm like I just take a picture of it and I send it to him.

Speaker 1: 1:06:51

It's one of those things, I don't even have to say anything. I just be like take a picture of it and I'd send it to him. It's one of those things. I don't even have to say anything. I'd just be like take a picture, send, and he'd usually be all like oh yeah, I've seen that, or hmm, that's new.

Speaker 2: 1:07:08

That's new is when you have to grab it.

Speaker 1: 1:07:10

Yes, which, like literally the other day to the T.

Speaker 1: 1:07:15

I'm going through the aisle and I'm like, and it was the last one there- and it is oh yeah, it's in the closet actually, but I actually was originally going to bring it out because I wanted to, wanted to show it to you. But Phantom Ranger invisible Phantom Ranger and it's literally the regular Phantom Ranger toy, just a different color swap on it where it's all white and it actually has certain parts on it that are actually kind of like a clear see-through thing. And at first I'm like would, why is he this way? And it's it's literally just because of the fact that that's literally one of the phantom rangers powers he, he goes invisible. So this is just the I guess the invisible toy version of him, which is crazy. But at the same time it looked really dope and I'm like like, I guess we'll take it.

Speaker 2: 1:08:15

I'm just going to say this now, in any ways listening. If you see Power Ranger figures outside of Mighty Morphin, grab them, because that's going to be stopping very soon. It's going to be Mighty Morphin or nothing coming up, because the other ones don't really sell. Well, I think Hasbro sold the license. Mmm. Yeah, if you like anything besides Mighty Morphin, they're fucked. It's going to be Mighty Morphin, that's it. Grab them now, honestly.

Speaker 1: 1:08:53

Grab them.

Speaker 2: 1:08:53

Honestly.

Speaker 1: 1:08:54

Grab them. Those who are looking for a good place to start, check out your local Aldi's. I'm sorry, aldi's, not Aldi's, aldi's.

Speaker 2: 1:09:04

Shopping on a budget go to Aldi's too.

Speaker 1: 1:09:07

Oh, somebody else is in danger. Uh oh, all these Retro matches going on in your neighborhood.

Speaker 2: 1:09:14

Well, you know, I bought a house near a firehouse, so it happens.

Speaker 1: 1:09:19

Listen. As someone who grew up right next to the fire station, I get it.

Speaker 2: 1:09:26

The price was good, but to go on collecting things, good segue. I recently got into the vintage market a bit, which is another rabbit hole. I shouldn't be falling down, but like collecting vintage teas is actually pretty wild. Um, but like I hit up, uh, this vintage market yesterday for the first time with my mom of all people, because me, my mom, loved thrifting and I loved her because I will always find something like, something dope. Butterscotch Bunny, she always says, I always come back with something Like, just randomly, the fact that I found the full set of Dragon Balls at the thrift store at one time.

Speaker 1: 1:10:08

That's crazy to me that you found that.

Speaker 2: 1:10:12

The full set I found. I forgot some other rare ass figures I found at the thrift store, uh, but yeah, a trick that there's a, uh, this vintage market. I was getting sad how much they were asking for these fucking shirts, man, because, like the first one I saw was the stone cold shirt I've been looking for, which was the half like terminator skull face one, the blue, oh, dang, I didn't see that in a minute yeah, and I didn't like the shirt 100 because like it was definitely 90s, because the front of the shirt was like, hey, jackloff, look at the back, or something like that.

Speaker 2: 1:10:58

And then the back had the thing and I was like, okay, that's kind of weird.

Speaker 1: 1:11:03

That's brutally attitude error right there.

Speaker 2: 1:11:06

Yeah. So I asked the guy, I was like yo, how much is that one? He's like $80. And I just went mmm, okay, just like swallowed that one. I was like thanks. Not gonna do it Next one. And then I saw a WCW Goldberg shirt Like the big print, like Goldberg on the front, like he's like on it with the blue.

Speaker 2: 1:11:34

Yeah, and I was just like how much is that one? 300. Okay, alright, you got it, congrats. What's the other one? I saw original ECW shirt. I was going for like $150. I was just getting sadder. I was like yo, these WWE shirts from back in the day are.

Speaker 1: 1:12:01

God, no, I've only one time ever been in that position. Funny enough, I was going to wear that shirt today, but instead I wore it yesterday out somewhere, and so I ended up putting on the gold dust. But I had and I actually don't know what triggered me to want it, but like I had this moment where I was like I need a Cactus Jack shirt, yeah and so, and at the time they were out of print, and so I'm looking all over the place and I'm shopping on ebay, and they're looking on ebay, which, by the ebay, still exists, right, of course.

Speaker 2: 1:12:44

I just don't hear people talk about ebay anymore that's because whatnot and all that is is out there now, so, but ebay is still strong.

Speaker 1: 1:12:51

Okay, well, like I remember looking, remember looking on eBay, and at the time the cheapest I found it was like $60 was the cheapest and I just couldn't find cheaper. And the one that was $60, it was only $60 because they were auctioning it. They were doing an auction for it and that's what the price was. I'm like I'm not about to try to go through all that bullshit, so I gave up. And then my second chance of trying to get one was that McP Foley was actually doing a tour of some sort and he was doing a limited edition selling of the shirt, and I actually think that's when I was all like this is my chance and I got it. But then, much later on down the line, I'm actually trying to remember.

Speaker 2: 1:13:59

Another stretcher match. Give it a second here, oh going back.

Speaker 1: 1:14:05

I hear it. I'm trying to remember. Was it you who got it for me? Probably it was a different version of cactus jack yeah, it shows cactus jack and it's got the. It says it was like, but it's in red. And it says uh, king of the death match on it yeah, I sent you the link.

Speaker 1: 1:14:28

I did that thing where I just text you the link yeah, yeah, I went and I swapped that one too, so now I got two Cactus Jack shirts on deck. And so, yeah, once again, you and your handiwork, whether if I appreciate it or hate it, that you do it and then appreciate you later, because drip is drip and I appreciate it, just not in the moment. I'm like I gotta spend money for this. Bro, why are you doing this?

Speaker 2: 1:15:01

I think what got me into the vintage stuff was by accident. So I have wore. I have an original Team USA 10th anniversary jacket, like the basketball team. I got it when I was younger. Like I found it in a clearance rack at like uh, sports authority or some shit. I scooped it and it's one of these like oh, it's big on me but I'll grow into it, like one of the things. So I grabbed it and I wore it to work one day and I'm talking talking about, like it's still prime, pristine white, I don't wear it out. And I was like, oh, let me just wear it. And I was like, oh, it's just in Google, Let me see if this is worth anything $700.

Speaker 2: 1:15:47

And I went never wearing this again. It's in my closet right there. And then, you know, I kind of did it as a one-off. I was like, oh, nothing of it. And then when I went to go see Wu-Tang, I wanted to wear one of my different Wu-Tang shirts. So I had a Raekwon shirt that I bought in a pack when he dropped his album. It came with the shirt, the Shaolin versus Wu-Tang, all that. And I wore that one and I was like, oh, for Shits and Giggles, let me see how much. This is $500. And I went cool, I wore that the rest of the day like I better not get taken.

Speaker 1: 1:16:27

Take a picture or two and yeah that was it.

Speaker 2: 1:16:30

It's in the closet just hanging up. I was like I can't, can't wear that one again. So I was just like now. The one I fucked up on was when I did Mag Wes. I have a Marvel as a Capcom shirt. I bought a Hot Topic like years ago. Yeah, it shrunk on me a bit because he was older. So I was like, oh man, if I just cut the sleeves off of it, it would be just fine. I cut the sleeves off of it and then, like, after I cut the sleeves, I was like I probably should see how much that was three hundred dollar shirt I just cut the sleeves off of and I, my mom, went why did you do that?

Speaker 1: 1:17:04

I was like it's probably only 100.

Speaker 2: 1:17:08

Well, maybe 100, maybe 50, 50 to 100 bucks now yeah, that just brings me me up because my boy was selling an original Four Horsemen WCW shirt. He's mad because the sleeves are cut off of it. He told me that shirt was worth 200 bucks. Because the sleeves are cut off, it's a $50 shirt.

Speaker 1: 1:17:28

Listen. That makes me wonder about some of my wrestling shirts. Yeah, I might have to check Because I know I actually have. I think I have two or three wrestling shirts that were actually special edition shirts. There was a random time where they was doing that and it's one of my favorite ones. It's like this green Randy Orton shirt. It's got this crazy design on it that I bought way, way back, and so I'm like you saying this. I'm like maybe because, like right now, my thing that I've decided I'm going to just do for the podcast because I have so many wrestling shirts. Literally I'm just going to be like, every time I'm on camera, just go and do a different wrestling shirt, see if I can cycle through them. All that kind of thing.

Speaker 2: 1:18:21

I'm curious because he did send me, because my friend does adventure stuff. He did send me some wrestling shirts that he's had and one of them was the Undisputed Future Seth Rollins shirt and I had that one and I was like I should have asked them how much that one was worth, because I had it already. So it's it's interesting. I need to go through my shirt collection and price everything out and see what I want to keep Price the interesting shirts that you have. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:18:55

Instead of just giving them away, get a little compensation for it. See if someone else will buy it for a good price, you know yeah like.

Speaker 2: 1:19:02

So there's a bundle because, like I do have, like I mean, I have a lot of shirts from when I was 115 pounds. I can't really fit anymore, you know so.

Speaker 1: 1:19:13

I feel that I have a lot of large shirts that I'm working on trying to slightly fit again.

Speaker 2: 1:19:19

So I was like no, I could fit my mediums, but like the mediums that shrunk are the ones I'm like, mmm the mediums now yeah, yeah, the ones are like I've had for a long time. They're kind of like that bunched up on me. I'm like, alright, I need a. I also have like a the one. Nxt William Regal shirt wow, random that's. That's a deep tight it doesn't fit me at all. It's a size small and it's wrong.

Speaker 1: 1:19:50

I really am going to be I mean great, because I also know I'm going to go through like a very interesting period of rediscovering shirts that I have Because, like, what was it? I think there was a. What was the shirt that I pulled out that I was all like, oh, as I wore it, I think I should wear it for the last podcast. I have a white Nakamura shirt, like this white Shinsuke Nakamura shirt.

Speaker 2: 1:20:13

I have a red one.

Speaker 1: 1:20:15

Yeah, I have a white one and I also have a red one where he's where it's like the, the little. I think it's probably the wakizashi hilton that's on the shirt and I'm pretty certain I had another one. But then I think about how I also because when I was a dolph ziggler fan, I went stupid hard and I bought every single shirt he would come out with, and then that was back when sometimes WWE would do the thing where they would have multiple versions of the shirt. So I have the, I have the pink and like that blue color version of a shirt of his which is one of my favorite ones, and then I also have the black, where it's like a blue and white, but it's the same shirt, and I have a couple like maybe like two other shirts where it's like it's the same shirt, just different color. Hues for dolph ziggler for.

Speaker 1: 1:21:11

Dolph Ziggler, so the one you have on right now.

Speaker 2: 1:21:16

I was eBayed it real quick. It's about a $30 shirt, the one you have now, but if you had the yellow version, do you have that one?

Speaker 1: 1:21:25

I do $100.

Speaker 2: 1:21:27

$100.

Speaker 1: 1:21:28

I'm already sitting on $100. Offer it. Yes, it's right in that drawer behind this computer that one is a hundred dollar shirt nice it's and I, from what I've learned about, like dabbling into it.

Speaker 2: 1:21:50

Size large and XL are always going to be the most expensive version of that shirt. Uh.

Speaker 1: 1:21:57

Then I'm paid.

Speaker 2: 1:21:59

Yeah, it's because those you know they'll survive the shrinkage, because they're already larger sizes.

Speaker 1: 1:22:08

Okay, now that makes sense. If, when they yeah, now that checks. See, now I'm going to have to pull out all my wrestling shirts, I'm gonna start going through them because I mean, granted, I'm not gonna get rid of them, and there's been a couple of times where I've almost gotten rid of them. And I know there are some wrestling shirts from my last move that I did get rid of because they were just like they were small yeah, I didn't. And I was like like or they were like shirts that were given to me that I'm like I'm not going to wear, like I know, maziku one time gave me this random HBK shirt that they sent him on accident and it wasn't even his size and I held on to it for a little while. I hope I didn't get rid of it, but I had a Jakeake the snake roberts shirt and it's literally it was just a green shirt got a little snake.

Speaker 1: 1:23:04

it says jake the snake on it very obscure, very random, but um, I don't remember if I got rid of it, as like I was looking for it because I actually was going to see if I could put it on not too long ago and instead of finding that, I found this random cell t-shirt that I have which is same color green. It's like about as green as whatever is behind you. That's green, right, oh, my beyblades, perfect. But it's like it's that color green and it's literally just like Cell in his hatchling form and then his after he's hatched and then perfect, cell You're going across, kind of thing. Just one of those random. Remember back in the day when there used to be those websites where we're like, hey, we're selling this t-shirt and it's only going to be on sale for like the next 24?

Speaker 1: 1:24:01

hours buy it till it's. Buy it till they're gone, but after that is it's going to be gone forever.

Speaker 2: 1:24:09

I got so many shirts that way you know, I kind of miss that, that era of cons, because that was a very specific era. It was Back in my day. Let me not get on that horse.

Speaker 1: 1:24:23

Listen and actually I'm looking at the time and whatnot and I know we wanted to get to the music bit, but because I know there's a lot to it, we're just going to have to run this thing back again. Oh, next time I've got to fix the plate. Yeah, next time you go into the kitchen get your own plate. I bet we wine and dine you this time, but after this you live here Next time.

Speaker 2: 1:24:53

If you want to talk music? I'll text. Ran for some quotes and see what he can share. That would be nice. That would be my one weird flex. Yeah, because we talk about how Battle Rumble was created.

Speaker 1: 1:25:07

Yes, there is us just talking about music in wrestling. That could just be a whole deal on its own, especially considering what we've talked about and where we've gone with the conversation.

Speaker 1: 1:25:25

But to wrap things up, bring it all the way back to with what's going on with wrestling now, and also because you're actually very good at this, because I've been in the presence where you've just said I think this happens and then, literally seconds after it comes out of your mouth, you want to talk about Edge. Oh, yes, that's one. That's actually the one, literally, this man. We're sitting there, we're watching the Royal Rumble and then, like they're doing the countdown. Now, nothing prompt this, like nothing. No background information on whether in fact Edge was gonna be there. Like there had been small whispers but they were like not enough whispers to like really like, take any stock in, but then he was all like you know what? That'd be wild if Edge would come out right now in the role.

Speaker 2: 1:26:32

I think I said you think you know me. Yeah, literally it was like he did it. Edge would come out right now in the Royal Rumble.

Speaker 1: 1:26:34

I think I said you think you know me yeah, literally it was like he did it and it happened and I'm looking, I'm like, how'd you?

Speaker 2: 1:26:44

know I felt like a good number for him to come out at absolutely wild the things that he's called.

Speaker 1: 1:26:55

there's been like a couple of other ones where you just kind of sort of like you called it and then not even within two minutes of you calling it and us disputing about whether or not, if that makes sense, and then it just straight happens, and now I'm just all like yeah, got it.

Speaker 2: 1:27:19

I think the last one I called was the priest cash in.

Speaker 1: 1:27:23

Yes, that that one was crazy, especially because once again, it didn't seem like no, why this? Why would he? Or maybe he would. And now he's the champion and we're all like wow, are you one of the writers?

Speaker 2: 1:27:42

like no, but we do know a writer now.

Speaker 1: 1:27:46

But Nah, I've just seen enough wrestling. Listen Once again, these predictions Very spot on. So, when it comes to Wrestlemania right now, with how everything is set up, what you thinking?

Speaker 2: 1:28:11

Cena should win. That's what I'm feeling Cena's going to win. I'm calling a fatal four-way for the USA title. I'm seeing LA Knight, shinsuke, damian Priest and Drew McIntyre. If not, we're gonna take out Damian Priest and Drew for their own match. And I'm seeing Jimmy and Jacob Fatu. Okay, I just see a fatal four way happening there for that title. Um, I feel like the women's international intercontinental title probably won't make the card. I hope I'm wrong, but I would love to see Lyra versus Bailey for it. That would be nice with Bailey winning it.

Speaker 2: 1:29:02

I think Bailey can levitate that title a little bit more um.

Speaker 1: 1:29:08

I also agree. However, I amitate that title a little bit more. I also agree.

Speaker 2: 1:29:12

However, I am glad that Lyra got it. Yeah, I mean, I was a big, I was pulling for Dakota, but Lyra is just somebody I'm not into. I don't know why, because she has everything I still like, but I'm just like. Every time I see her I'm just like eh.

Speaker 1: 1:29:26

I mean, I'm also there with you as well, but I'm just like, every time I see her, I'm just like, eh, I mean I'm also there with you as well, but I also. But it's like though, like I'm eh, but I'm all like I'm giving her some chances here, you know.

Speaker 2: 1:29:37

It's just I don't know. I know we had to wrap up on time, just real quick, lyra I'll carry your rant of all things the storyline that they had with her, with Tatum Paxley, where Tatum turned on her after being in love with her, and all that stuff was wrapped up way too fast, and I feel like that storyline would have been enough to establish Lyra as a character 100%, because Lyra's great. I just can't.

Speaker 1: 1:30:08

There's not a whole lot of substance to sink your teeth into outside. She I mean she's a great performer yeah and everything, but like her character that keeps you locked in. They're like they don't give enough yet yeah that's actually how I feel about Ivy and Isle, like I need Ivy and Isle to break away from the chumps and I think just developing.

Speaker 2: 1:30:31

Finally, now they're giving her more speaking roles. I think she should stay with them, but Just let her let her run more promos.

Speaker 1: 1:30:41

That's fair.

Speaker 2: 1:30:42

That's where Chad's out there, let her run the promos. I think that'll be. He says, like I, the promos.

Speaker 1: 1:30:46

I think that would be sick. I love her, look, I love her character and I like when she speaks.

Speaker 2: 1:30:54

I think the big one. This is the wrap, but I think the big one should be Cena winning the title, Getting number 17 as a heel.

Speaker 1: 1:31:03

Only because I've mentioned it Gunther and Oos, oos.

Speaker 2: 1:31:13

He has to win it. He has to. If he doesn't win it. I don't want him anywhere near Death scene ever again.

Speaker 1: 1:31:22

Oh, it's like that. You're like hey, yo, if you lose, don't come back. Oh, if it happened to Shinsuke, it happened to you. It's like that you're like hey, yo, if you lose, don't come back.

Speaker 2: 1:31:27

Oh if it happened to Shinsuke, it happened to you. I want you gone from that scene.

Speaker 1: 1:31:35

That's a deep cut, cause I'm still hurt about Shinsuke.

Speaker 2: 1:31:38

We all are but like yeah, no, that's the equivalent to me. Um, like what they wear on the card taking that Royal Rumble. Like yeah, no, so you better win it or don't come back.

Speaker 1: 1:31:57

So we have this thing that I know our next podcast we're going to more so kind of like give it a true definition and whatnot, but we call it the discus Lariat lounge and the idea is kind of sort of like where though, there, when, when a statement like that is made and then we spin it and hit you with a very wild ass hot take in regards to it. My discus Lariat in that regards is that we keep on this same projectory, because right now, last at last Raw, he finally not fully, he kind of got his lick. Finally, after being choked the hell out two weeks in a row, he finally got his lick back, he finally got his leg back. My discus Larry is that he's going to, once we get close to WrestleMania, he's finally going to be in a position where it's all like oh snap, I think we can believe that he can get this done and that he absolutely doesn't.

Speaker 1: 1:33:02

And even more so, it's not so much that he doesn't because he couldn't, but somebody comes out of nowhere. Even more so, it's not so much that he doesn't because he couldn't, but somebody comes out of nowhere who is a hater and completely just screws him over. It's like someone you don't expect. Like just some. Yeah, like something wild like that, a very odd name to choose, it just comes to your mind. Yeah, like something wild like that, a very odd name to choose, it just comes to your mind.

Speaker 2: 1:33:32

He's coming back.

Speaker 1: 1:33:32

He's the first person I could think of that could listen if, for whatever reason, if it was Aleister Black, you're just going to be doing the podcast from now on, because apparently you just got you got information that the universe does not have.

Speaker 2: 1:33:51

Here's my big one. I'm going to call it now. Don Mysterio is going to be IC champion by the time WrestleMania is over. That's my big one.

Speaker 1: 1:34:06

I fucks with that. That's a bold statement. I fucks with that. That's a bold statement. I fucks with it. Like we're very early in that kind of development. But I'm picking up what you're putting down.

Speaker 2: 1:34:21

I see it that's my big one. I'm gonna call it now. Dom Mysterio will pin Finn Balor for the IAC title.

Speaker 1: 1:34:33

That's going to be juicy. I kind of want it. I need that. I need that right now. I need it Giving him the full Latino heat push which, honestly, I can't even say about time We've been gaining to this point. So it's like not something I ever considered, but now that I've heard it I kind of want that. I kind of want it.

Speaker 2: 1:35:05

I mean, I can go down a line and say he'll probably cheat on Liv or Raquel, but that's a way later story line, but right now that's where we're going.

Speaker 1: 1:35:17

Oh man, well freaking. I believe I think we got some good talking considering and it's funny because I do believe. Let me look at my little sheet that I had. We almost organically covered everything that I was going to actually bring up. Natural chemistry, son, that's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1: 1:35:40

All good, next time we do this, we're going to go straight into wrestling and music, Considering the fact that us both being music folk and us both being in the wrestling bit of it as well Because, man, not even to go fully into it, but it's like wrestling and music have gone fully into it, but it's like wrestling and music have gone are wrestling and music and specifically hip hop go hand in hand, much harder than I ever could have imagined? And I think actual mainstream wrestling in itself is. I think they've always known, but they've never locked in on it like how they've recently been really locking in on it. But we'll, we'll definitely get into that on our next link up and so, uh, before we uh sign out, you got any shout outs, any uh bits you want to put out about what you got going on right now? Plug?

Speaker 2: 1:36:47

I mean, come see me in Minnesota April 11th at BGMCon. I'll be performing there. I have a new song Dropping, with Frivolous Charm, and I don't have the dates on that song yet. It's currently being mixed and yeah, no, that's going to be a lot of fun. That's gonna spark some rumors, uh and no, no, shout out to everybody. I love they know who they are.

Speaker 1: 1:37:17

I don't need to be saying names, that's too long and of course, I do believe you are lord zay, anywhere and everywhere. Am I correct?

Speaker 2: 1:37:26

yes, lord zay. Uh, you can google me. I said that on the podcast before I'm googleable googleable. Listen, I'm googleable you can type me in and it won't auto correct you now.

Speaker 1: 1:37:38

So you know it's crazy because, like it still auto corrects me like it's all, like we're pretty certain you mean swag switcher, but you don't mean swag switch by any chance mine was just to be like lord z, like some random video game character.

Speaker 2: 1:37:56

I was like nah now, now it's just me, it doesn't autocorrect you, I have a, I have a little ai bio now nice even oh, all that you know.

Speaker 1: 1:38:04

I think I have one too, too. It completely took me by surprise, I thought it was mediocre.

Speaker 2: 1:38:10

one time I was like damn.

Speaker 1: 1:38:12

So I was like shout out to AI, ai'd be doing the most out here. Go freaking, listen, follow your boy, lord Zay. I'll throw some links down in the comments. But I'm going to throw some links down in the drop down, just the comments. But I'm gonna throw some links down in the dropdown just in case if you're too lazy to look it up yourself.

Speaker 2: 1:38:33

It takes you.

Speaker 1: 1:38:33

it takes you where you need to go, that's better Send me the link tree, cause the link tree covers all bases.

Speaker 2: 1:38:40

Yeah, you can get my toy photography in there which I need to update.

Speaker 1: 1:38:44

Yes, please do. Yeah, but listen, which I need to update. Yes, please do. It's been good. We chat all the time, so doing it on camera is just like. Oh, now everyone gets to get clued in on what we talk about on a regular basis. This is what we do and we talk about on a regular basis. The only difference is a lot less, and I'm also, more often than not, dunking on him, because I that's what I do. Yeah, it's out of love.

Speaker 1: 1:39:14

Yeah, completely out of love you only, you only we dunk on the ones we love, but no one is allowed to dunk on them. Facts, how that works. But uh, it's your boy who asked what you're in the building big brothers of destruction. Lord zay filling in for the maziku and uh, he'll be back. He's gonna be a familiar face moving forward. But until then, I do believe maziku will be back for the raw review. And oh, let me also put this in here I'm sorry.

Speaker 1: 1:39:49

I was supposed to do the Smackdown review and I did it, and then at the very end of the review, because Smackdown is a very long show and I started watching it at 8 o'clock and so by the time I finished and I've had the end of my work day in the midst of doing the interview I was falling asleep mid sentences so maybe one day I'll see the light of day because there was literally a point where I was like I'm explaining like literally like the last three segments of Smackdown and then also I'm like I don't remember what I was saying. I lost my train of thought.

Speaker 2: 1:40:30

So that means that the Road Dogg Jesse James should be better at writing, Anyways.

Speaker 1: 1:40:36

Oh, wow, yeah, we gotta get out of here. I got hot takes for days. We can't be doing this right now, ladies and gentlemen, everything in between Big Brothers of Destruction's podcast signing out. We'll see y'all later, see ya.