WrestleMania 41 Post show

The energy in the room shifts dramatically as we dissect WrestleMania 40's unexpected twists and controversial outcomes. From John Cena's shocking championship victory to Paul Heyman's game-changing betrayal, this year's Showcase of the Immortals delivered moments that left the wrestling world buzzing—though not always for the right reasons.

Night One kicked off with disappointment as Jey Uso defeated Gunther in what many felt was an underwhelming match that failed to capitalize on their intense feud. The audience's reaction was clear: over 40,000 dislikes on YouTube compared to just 27,000 likes. We explore why this outcome felt so unsatisfying despite its significance. Meanwhile, Jacob Fatu's dominant performance against LA Knight for the United States Championship emerged as the evening's true highlight, showcasing exactly why Fatu is one of wrestling's most captivating monsters.

The women delivered consistently throughout both nights, with Jade Cargill proving she belongs on the main roster against veteran Naomi, while Charlotte Flair and Tiffany Stratton surprised many with their physical confrontation. Night Two opened strong with an exceptional triple threat between Io Sky, Bianca Belair, and the controversial inclusion of Rhea Ripley.

Perhaps most frustrating was the disconnected storytelling in the main event scene. After weeks of "Final Boss" Rock build-up and soul-selling narratives, John Cena's championship victory felt oddly disjointed from the elaborate story that preceded it. Travis Scott's involvement raised more questions than answers, leaving us to wonder: did WWE miss the mark by not delivering on the promised spectacle?

What matches exceeded your expectations? Which storylines fell flat? Join the conversation and share your WrestleMania highlights and lowlights in the comments below. Don't forget to subscribe for our upcoming episode where we'll reveal what our wrestling gimmicks would be if we stepped between the ropes!

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Chapters

• 0:00 WrestleMania Fallout and Energy Shift
• 4:15 Gunther vs. Jey Uso Disappointment
• 19:01 New Day Victory and Jade vs. Naomi
• 34:33 LA Knight vs. Jacob Fatu Analysis
• 49:02 Women's Championship and Tag Matches
• 1:05:32 Triple Threat Drama and Paul Heyman
• 1:28:02 Night Two Opener: Triple Threat Women
• 1:33:39 Drew McIntyre vs. Damien Priest
• 1:38:53 Dominic Mysterio's IC Title Win
• 1:44:38 Randy Orton vs. Joe Henning
• 1:51:01 Logan Paul vs. AJ Styles

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:09

and welcome to another episode of the big brothers of the destruction podcast. I'm gonna tell you this right now the energy in the room, wherever you are, wherever you're listening to it's going to be very shifted after this episode. Because WrestleMania happened. Some of the predictions came through, some of them didn't, but one thing for certain John Cena is the new heavyweight champion, universal champion, and we got a lot to talk about. First and foremost, it's the Masako.

Speaker 2: 0:48

It's your boy. Swag switch in the building. What can I say? Wrestlemania it was. It was okay. You know it was okay.

Speaker 1: 1:05

There are a lot of hiccups when it comes to the show good and bad and we're gonna obviously dissect the show and kind of give our opinions on each match, whether, if it's good, the bad, the downright ugly. So I think that's just a great way to start off because, man, we got a lot of matches I think like 10 matches to review and talk about.

Speaker 2: 1:32

It's like a normal AEW pay-per-view, just spread the two nights as opposed to just four hours, five hours straight and here comes swag switches, hate on AEW.

Speaker 1: 1:45

It never fails.

Speaker 2: 1:47

I wouldn't hate. I'm just making a comparison.

Speaker 1: 1:50

Ah, alright. Well, let's just kind of go to this card and let's see if it compares or matches up to an AEW show. How about that?

Speaker 2: 2:00

Oh listen, I'm going to tell you straight up right now. If I was to compare AEW's last pay-per-view to this WrestleMania, aew kind of won what. As I'm getting into this, there was a discussion in the group chat that was something I was going to bring up, but I couldn't bring it up because of the fact that WrestleMania was so fucking close. And so it was the fact that a lot of guys in the group chat were all like you know WrestleMania's kind of feeling mid and I, when you look at the build-up to WrestleMania, I was, because that's what they was kind of referring to. They were like you know what, there's nothing that has happened that made me feel interested in wanting to watch WrestleMania. And I was like, really, and they gave their reasons, watch WrestleMania. And I was like, really, and they gave their reasons and whatnot.

Speaker 2: 3:09

But I was like, and the reasons that they gave, I couldn't quite myself agree with them. But then it had me wondering. I'm like do I have rose-colored glasses on? Are they seeing things clearer than what? What I am? But I dismissed it because after that little conversation it was a very fire smackdown that happened and you know, things have kind of sort of continued on as they did and, you know, things have kind of sort of continued on as they did. However, once WrestleMania has come, I don't think it's so much that I had rose-colored glasses on, it's just the fact that there was a lot of buildup and a lot of expectations and they dropped them. They dropped them hard. Talking about dropping things very hard. Gunther and JUSO Number one Go ahead and speak on it.

Speaker 2: 4:16

Sure, sure, my predictions. My discus lariat was a miss, which it was supposed to be, but I would have preferred my Discus Lariat over everything that happened in this match. This is a person, jay, who watched his brother die right in front of his face. Who watched his brother die right in front of his face? Okay, his brother was discontinued by our boy, gunther Jey Uso's. All like you know what. After watching you discontinue my brother right in front of my face, I'm not scared of you, no more. And you know how.

Speaker 2: 5:08

I had to have that conversation with my mom about everything that had happened and you discontinuing my brother in front of me and all this other stuff You're going to have that. I'm going to make sure you have a similar conversation with your mother. Ladies and gentlemen, that too was a lie. I'll give it to Jay. He went out there and he fought him, but for someone who literally watched a man wipe the blood that he spilled of my twin and he licked it, tasted it, spit it out, rubbed it on his chest and made you watch, and you're just going to go in there and use his moves, the power bomb and and and put him in a quick sleeper hold and that's it, that's it, that's it. That's really what we're doing.

Speaker 1: 6:10

Okay, all right, very lackluster indeed. Right there, I mean even people that haven't been watching wrestling, like my homeboy Nuki. He came over, he's watching the previews and stuff from that night and he was like wait, that's how he lost. I was like, yeah, that's how he says so fast. He even looked at the situation and said this should not have happened. And if you go to the YouTube channel, they even agree. Apparently, jey Uso winning the title has gotten over 40,000 plus dislikes compared to the 27,000 likes. So the audience is already showcasing that the win was not earned and I have to say, even watching his post show interview, I don't know if this man was drunk, I don't know if he's just got the jitters. He's just not able to talk. All of a sudden he was talking before, like when the bloodline stuff was going on. Maybe paul hayman was writing that stuff, but like he can't talk to me, he just he can't talk you're right, I it's, it's.

Speaker 2: 7:42

I don't know what's been going on with it.

Speaker 1: 7:45

I don't know either, and honestly I didn't want to rant about it. But I'm kind of getting to a point of, like I knew WrestleMania was going to be, them yeeting it up, and here's the funny thing you even said, yeah, you had that prediction right, but he didn't even do it, and so it was like what the fuck?

Speaker 2: 8:08

There were so many weird things Because, to that point, you were saying that, right, so he comes out to the ring, right, he's game face. Everybody's yeeting and stuff like that, however, but he's not he. He walks down from the top bowl of this stadium that was okay stupid all the way down to the ring and he did not. He stopped a couple times, but he didn't stop to do any eating. Then he gets. He gets into the ring, doesn't do any yeeting. I'm like, okay, cool, I can understand that.

Speaker 1: 8:49

You know he's supposed to be serious.

Speaker 2: 8:52

Okay, then this spoil of a match happens and it's one of those things like it wasn't. The match in itself wasn't terrible. It was, but it was a C rank. It was a C that was at best.

Speaker 1: 9:13

I almost give it a D barely made it, barely made it no, I'm gonna stick with C be, but it's real, because that tap, that tap was made. What made it d bro, it would have been a c if it was a reasonable win and uh, uh, yeah, I guess.

Speaker 2: 9:36

Well, see, the tap in itself wasn't what made it a c or a d, however, like when I wrote, like, coming down to it like yeah, yeah, it really wasn't it was, it was a d like it. There were. There were many other options I could, they could have did, but it's like. But going back to what I was explaining, though, is the fact that that happens he wins, he wins and he actually still does not eat. I expected him to be celebrating like crazy belt over his shoulder, there's so much yeet and they cause a tornado in the middle of the arena. He didn't even do that. He just kind of like I got the belt and I'm gonna walk around with it and I'm gonna walk back up the the crowd and let bitches yell in the back of my ear and yo, let's not go back into that dumb shit bro.

Speaker 1: 10:42

Nah man, he just, he just goes back up and that's it.

Speaker 2: 10:45

There's no yeet celebration and whatnot. There was no him with the belt in his hand. Hey, run that back one more time, okay, nothing, nothing.

Speaker 1: 11:03

I don't know what has happened to him, but he is feeling so much like a federation guy nowadays, like he feels so. The world wrestling federation, sports entertainment, that old school, just Hulk Hogan, like stuff, and the problem is, at least they could actually get through a promo okay, their promos were hype yes, they were hype.

Speaker 2: 11:37

You know, as much as we dislike hulk hogan I'm sorry, as much as we dislike terry bea Hulk Hogan the character whenever he would come out there and he would say his thing, spit his stuff and whatnot. There was rhyme and reason to it and he finished his sentences and he ended with your what you're going to do when macho man will come out there and talk his shit, though it did not make sense. It all was a full conglomerate of a complete thought, whether or not he understood what his complete thought was or not. Hell Ultimate Warrior.

Speaker 1: 12:19

I was just about to say that shit.

Speaker 2: 12:23

He yells, he would grunt, you know, like all of this stuff. But he had a complete thought and he got it across.

Speaker 1: 12:38

I, dead ass, was waiting for you to finish this, cause I was about to say that same shit. I was literally about to say even ultimate warrior can cut a better promo and all his shit was you know the warrior like nah bro. Um, that's crazy. I we could talk about this match, this feud, for hours, because this alone was the frustration that we both had going into this mania All the other matches the whole time all the other matches were like okay, you know, we'll see what happens, but this one, this one was like man, you can make or break it.

Speaker 2: 13:21

Listen, they took us on this little, small, tiny roller coaster that was up and down, up and down. We don't it. Listen, they took us on this little, small, tiny roller coaster that was up and down, up and down. We don't care. Okay, we kind of care. Okay, we don't care. Oh snap, we care now. And what did they do when we got us to care? They didn't give us the loop-de-loop, they didn't give us a corkscrew, they pumped the brakes in the ride and did it.

Speaker 1: 13:43

I'm just like very much and um, especially when you use his brother for what you did and we got nothing but poodoo. Yeah, I said it, Bringing it back.

Speaker 2: 13:55

Poodoo. Jimmy did not deserve to get krillin for for Jay to give me Gohan energy.

Speaker 1: 14:03

That was more so, yamcha, bro Cause. That's why he didn't transform. You know what? That's why? Because he turns and looks at Yamcha on the floor. He says, oh damn, Alright.

Speaker 2: 14:18

But even when Goku turned and saw Yamcha on the floor, he at least beat Nappa's ass. He did.

Speaker 1: 14:24

But he didn't beat Nappa's ass.

Speaker 2: 14:25

He did, but he didn't beat his ass like he should have.

Speaker 1: 14:29

No, he beat his ass. He beat his ass and he broke his back. He styled him. He didn't murder him or get him like how Goku wanted to get freezed for killing everybody else.

Speaker 2: 14:41

I mean this part is true, but I would have asked for some at least Nappa energy.

Speaker 1: 14:49

I'm just saying.

Speaker 2: 14:51

He didn't At least Goku hurt that man. Jay didn't hurt nobody.

Speaker 1: 14:59

I said this I remember saying this that yo, rikishi, must be kissing Paul Levesque's ass, bro. Or maybe Hunter was like man. I'm tired of Rikishi tweeting and saying all this stuff about his son not being champion. Let me just go ahead and do it and we're going to make him a transitional champion, because he better not get no long reign. He better not get no six month reign. It gotta be max two months. That's because it's two pay-per-views, max two months.

Speaker 2: 15:36

And that's not gonna happen either. I don't think he's gonna hold it for six months. I think he's gonna hold it for a little bit. If anything right now. He has to hold it for six months. I think he's going to hold it for a little bit. If anything right now, he has to hold it so that they can. For me, he needs to now hold it, to now make it actually believable.

Speaker 1: 15:55

That's what I'm saying Two months max. He's probably going to hold it for two months max.

Speaker 2: 15:59

I think he's going to have more. He'll have a Kofi ring.

Speaker 1: 16:04

Kofi wasn't even that damn long. Kofi only had one defense. It was more than two months. Kofi only had. Who did he defend it to? After he lost it to Brock? When he beat Bryan, I could have swore his next opponent was Brock.

Speaker 2: 16:23

No, he definitely had it longer than that Hold on bro. I'm blanking on.

Speaker 1: 16:30

I could have sworn, bro, hold on Kofi Title defense. I could have sworn. Okay, so he is not immutable. He's lasting for 180 sworn Okay, so he is not moldable. He's lasting for 180 days. Okay, his WWE Championship reign was 180 days. Let me see here Showing tag team I'm not seeing the heavyweight title. Let me see his defenses. Let me see defenses. Okay, every title defense he's ever had. Let's go with this. Alright, boom, boom, bam, alright. So apparently he. He went against Seth Rollins. He went against Daniel Bryan AJ Styles and he went against Seth Rollins. He went against Daniel Bryan AJ Styles. And why am I drawing a blank? Sami Zayn, he actually had a match against KO. He had one at Super Showdown with Dolph, still caged with Dolph. Why do I not remember any of these things? Bro, against Joe. He beat Joe. No, no, no. He went against fucking Orton.

Speaker 2: 17:53

and he went against Orton twice, bro, and then brought Lesnar, because that was when they was bringing up the whole back, when he called him stupid and all that.

Speaker 1: 18:03

Man, look, that was a reign. Apparently I wasn't here, for I guess I wasn't existing. I must not have been watching the product, because I don't remember none of those fucking matches and you're not about to tell me that was the case. But I mean, kofi's a great person, kofi's a great wrestler. I just don't for some reason remember this reign.

Speaker 2: 18:28

I don't remember it being that long, this many matches. No, that definitely did happen, unlike their match that they had at WrestleMania. His reign matches were good Damn. I also feel there's a part of me that feels that New Day had an unfair play for WrestleMania I but like their match was, it was dry.

Speaker 1: 18:51

That was the next match, right.

Speaker 2: 18:53

It was indeed. We had two duds of a match. Two duds, both of them for titles Like, let me put it this way freaking the street profits deserve this spot, not them. The street profits would have they would have stolen the show if they were depending on who they were going against, though damn, it does not matter.

Speaker 2: 19:28

They could have been going up against the machine guns, they could have been going up against DIY Kale. If it would have been pretty deadly, that would have been even better, because they're good people, good wrestlers, good NXT tag team that came up like how about this what we got? And you would have thought that this would have been better.

Speaker 1: 19:55

A lot of people um went and were saying like this, this whole card on the Saturday was just another Raw it literally was another raw and in the clash of Titans outfit that that uh, the war Raiders were coming out with uh Ivan and over um, um, uh, was it? Uh? Second guy's name is uh Ivan and I don't know why I want to say crowbar, but Eric and I Eric and I Eric and I don't know why I want to say crowbar. Eric and Ivar, Eric and Ivar. There you go, Excuse me, eric and Ivar, and they're wearing outfits from the game and I'm sorry they look like he was going to a convention.

Speaker 2: 20:34

They did look goofy.

Speaker 1: 20:35

They did look so goofy and I'm like and you know, matt was sitting here, he was talking about man, they should have went out with the biker gimmick and did this and that and I was like man shoot, that would have been more convincing, although I feel as if that their hands might have been tied with that one for some reason.

Speaker 1: 20:54

No, I just feel like it's because of the Clash of Titans game and being the sponsor which also let's talk about WrestleMania the sponsor, you know, I'm saying not our sponsor, but just the sponsoring ship of mania it was literally mania the sponsor and that's all it was.

Speaker 1: 21:15

Every match was sponsored by something, had some kind of addition to it, and I don't know how you feel about it, but it was just like after a while it kind of got annoying, like literally every match had some kind of sponsor or connection to something, whether it was ice cream, it was fucking chips, uh, hot and spicy something, huh, ramen, ramen, fucking a minute made like games, which also fatal Fury, getting the main piece of the mats for Mania, crazy. I don't know how big they think this game is going to be and I'm a competitive fighter, not Fatal Fury, mark of Wolves, gaara. I believe she's not going to be Mark of Wolves, but regardless, it's Gaara. I'm really big in the competitive fighting games and I know this game is going to be Mark Lewis, but regardless, it's Gara. I'm really big in the competitive fighting games and I know this game is going to be great. I just did not expect it to be in the front or the main slot of a mat at Mania. That was crazy. That was crazy.

Speaker 2: 22:16

I mean it was especially for the way that they're advertising. I actually now want to look it up and see. How much money does it cost to get an advertisement in the ring for WrestleMania or period? I feel like it's going to be a lot of money.

Speaker 2: 22:37

It must not be that much money if it costs four thousand dollars for a seat for one night and that does not include food, parking, room and board just a seat for one night of wrestlemania being four thousand dollars, of WrestleMania being $4,000 to get your logo and name plastered somewhere on their ring.

Speaker 1: 23:13

Retarded. So you're telling me us putting our logo in the middle of the ring.

Speaker 2: 23:18

Fam, I'm pretty certain we have not made it to such a degree.

Speaker 1: 23:25

I'm just saying if it happened, could you imagine the outrage You'd be like who the fuck are these?

Speaker 2: 23:31

two dudes. Could you Listen? If we got enough money to get our logo put in the middle of the ring at that point, I feel as if we're putting our money towards the wrong stuff, because I know that's gonna be expensive wishful thinking.

Speaker 1: 23:56

We actually gotta talk about this match. So yeah, about this match.

Speaker 2: 23:59

It was a match what was there to talk about? I mean one thing to talk about. And people, the people who I was watching wrestling with tonight, shout out to Lord Zay, his boy pointed out I think was it him. It was either him or his homie they pointed out the fact that on New Day's outfit their giant Gonzales thing that they were doing if you notice, or if you look, it's it is the unicorn that was on the back. Yeah, I did not realize that. It's a, a Cerberus-style unicorn. Okay, okay, so it's one body and it's got actually three heads of a unicorn, but one of the heads is dead. When you go back here, I'll give you, I'll send you a link, because I wanted to look it up, but like send it to me, not in discord.

Speaker 1: 25:14

Send it to me um uh, elsewhere. Oh well, then, okay, no, okay, I got it, I got it, I got it you have to see it somewhere else then, because I don't have. That's crazy.

Speaker 2: 25:30

Yeah, that's wow. The giant Gonzalez aspect of it was eh, but the picture on the back, because I didn't catch that, but they told they put me up to speed about that. I was like eh, but the picture on the back, because I didn't catch that, but they told they put me up to speed about that.

Speaker 1: 25:48

I was like oh, that's cold-blooded, that's cold-fucking-blooded. I couldn't, I couldn't, oh my gosh, I didn't even see that. I didn't even see that.

Speaker 2: 26:04

But I mean, the overallness of that match was the fact that New Day did you know bad guy tactics and they got the W. However, though they did, it wasn't like a whole bunch of bad guy tactics, like they kind of they kind of want that shit clean to be honest, I mean pretty much yeah too, that shit clean to be honest, I mean pretty much.

Speaker 2: 26:25

Yeah, I had to, outside of the fact that Kofi Kingston held his foot down so he couldn't kick out and the referee didn't see it, but it was like, eh, but I mean it was whatever. Those tag team pals weren't doing anything. War Raiders have just kind of sort of been skating around, rocking, walking around with them. So hopefully maybe something will come of it now that New Day has it, because New Day is, new Day and New Day is, and they rock.

Speaker 1: 26:55

I'm playing, playing, I'm playing, I'm playing, I'm playing. Unless somebody says oh my God, here we go. Shawn Michael, his words, not mine, very heartbreak. Kid ask okay, sorry, what are we rating this? I'm rating it a, d, oh, absolutely it was. I'm also going to make a clip of every one of our predictions that we got right from the video. So I'm going to make a clip on that one.

Speaker 2: 27:31

I honestly think like a lot. It's weird Cause, like a lot of my predictions, I cause, with my predictions that I had, there were like the the prediction that I would love to have happen, and then there's the prediction that I know love to have happen, and then there's the prediction that I know is gonna happen, and so almost all of the ones that I'm like I would love to have happen really didn't happen, which is kind of okay and kind of sorry, because I think my Wrestlemania predictions would have been so much better, like this one, being Jade going up against Naomi.

Speaker 2: 28:16

This was the first good match of the night. Which was surprising, because I was worried about Jade, because she's been, you know, she hasn't been having the best matches.

Speaker 1: 28:30

Greener than a fresh cut lawn, greener than the money that I don't have, but very green. And you know she held her own, definitely held her own. I did love the spot that she almost dropped and probably I think she might have dropped her on her head a little bit. The electric chair switch to about powerbomb gets to Jade at one, two, three. A lot of these feuds, man, you know there's so much. There was such blood feuds. They just ended it like normal matches, like there was no blood feud afterwards. Okay, the Jay incident with that match, that was a blood feud at that point Right. And now with Jada and Naomi, that was like a blood feud, bro, she tossed you into a freaking car and you just jaded and lick your hand. One, two, three.

Speaker 2: 29:25

You're not going like I will at least give them the fact that, like leading up to it, jade's been getting them hits in and honestly when, when Jade thrash her and took her out of the elimination chamber that should have been it.

Speaker 1: 29:45

I mean, that's the biggest get back ever.

Speaker 2: 29:50

That was some solid shit but, unlike a lot of these matches, they did actually catch up with Jade, and even Jade kind of said it herself that she's like I don't think this is over just yet. I'm pretty certain that there's going to be a bit more. That's going to end up happening and though I'm kind of like I'm cool that they did that, I feel as if they should have took it the next step forward and then, like while she was out there talking about all that, naomi came back through and and hit her with some of that yeah, fam, this ain't done yet. Let me beat your ass right here and then get like pulled away and all this other stuff.

Speaker 1: 30:31

But you know, it's whatever, I guess I really would have preferred it end with naomi winning, and I said that because I feel like that would have been better for the story. But we'll see where it goes. Maybe there might be the rubber match at Backlash. Either way, this match was definitely a B, definitely a B. There were moments where it could have been a C, but you know, naomi definitely saved the match with her. You know in-ring background and it's crazy, crazy too. I've always been a fan of naomi as a person. I've met her before too. Um, her wrestling styles feels like it's not diva, but it is definitely. It's definitely something really good. It's definitely something really good and I feel like that meshes well with jade, who's supposed to be miss powerhouse and everything. So, uh, match as well. I. I want to give it a b.

Speaker 2: 31:27

I want to give a solid b listen, naomi is a she is a solid in ring individual.

Speaker 2: 31:35

She's one of those ones that, like you, could put her in a ring with anybody and the match almost has no choice but to be good and on in this particular match kind of showed that. Now I will give uh jade her props, because you know, she's kind of sort of been uh, she's been she's, she's been in the incubator a little bit and so, like she then and it was obvious to see why, and I feel slowly shade is kind of sort of coming into her own and figuring out what this character that she is right now she's like. She's like the character that she's kind of portraying is like she's like this, you know this she she's playing like the stoic superhero character type thing and so that's kind of her spot. But compared to what I know she could be because we all saw what she was doing in AEW I feel like she's trying really hard to get this particular character that she's doing over and it's tough because I feel like it might not truly be her are we talking about Jade correct?

Speaker 1: 32:57

yes okay, naomi. Yeah, I was TNA. I thought we were talking about Naomi. But yeah, continue Naomi she. Yeah, I was TNA. That was all school. When we said ADL, I was like wait, I thought we were talking about Naomi, but yeah, continue.

Speaker 2: 33:08

Naomi, she's fine, she got this in the bag. She knows what she's doing. Listen, she's a great heel. Alright, I've never.

Speaker 1: 33:20

I've never expected her. No, I mean I've seen her as a heel. It's just her heel was very like you know oh, I'm a bad bitch but like this, like this has layers to it, like her character feels like it's going to have layers that we're going to just keep unraveling or just, like you know, exploring more down the road. So I thought the win would have been helpful so that way she could start developing her character more and be like I got Jade, now I gotta get Bianca. You know what I'm saying, but Bianca's in a program right now that doesn't look like it's gonna stop.

Speaker 2: 33:57

I feel I mean I can understand on that one, but like I also know, naomi, uh, because of the fact of like the type of heel that she's cooking and becoming and whatnot, she don't need the win.

Speaker 2: 34:11

She's going cause she'll, she'll get hers once again real soon when it comes to all of this Cause it's it's far from over. But overall though, like Jade, she did her thing and I and I'm happy about how that match went, and it was also the first really good match of that night and then we go into the next good match of the night. But of course this match had they would have had to try to make this match garbage. La Knight, Jacob Fatu, fam Fam and I love me some LA Knight, like I love me some LA Knight. But I've also grown very attached to Jacob Fatu. Jacob Fatu got people out here using and quoting the term dog walked more and more than I would have ever expected. I've been using the phrase dog walk ever since the Brawley movie. Alright, because that is what dog walking somebody is. That's definition term and Jacob Fatu out here grabbing the leash and putting it on people and taking them for a stroll right now, now as our new United States champion.

Speaker 2: 35:42

It was a solid match. I could not. United States champion. It was a solid match. I could not. The only thing I do kind of wish we would have got but at the same time I'm still okay with it was I wanted to see a bit like figure out the bloodline interference, because there was a little bit of a story of you know Jacob and what's left of the old bloodline or the new bloodline. You know they were kind of butting heads a little bit, they weren't seeing eye to eye kind of thing. But then last SmackDown they had a tag match and that they kind of you know he actually said I love you, so love you On SmackDown. So I was like, oh, I guess they've made up now. And then Solo came out there with him but he wasn't there. At the ringside Jacob Fatu beat this man squeaky.

Speaker 1: 36:40

The beautiful thing about it is, yes, it was squeaky, but I wanted it to be a squash. I wanted it to be a squash because of just how Jacob fought too. He's been going against Braun Strowman those should have been heavier matches, obviously they were, but to go against LA Knight, this should be a cakewalk. He should be dog walking this motherfucker. To me, to me, to me, to me, that's just, this is me, this is me. More so, fantasy booking, like obviously it's a mania match. You gotta let it build, but to me, I want Jacob to to be just as you like, to identify as a monster. I want that motherfucker to be like damn near Goldberg and just knocking bitches out in like a few minutes. First off.

Speaker 2: 37:32

Put some respect on my boy, la knights he is the mega star.

Speaker 1: 37:39

Yes, he did it. He did it. He caught an amazing BFT off of Moonsault Perfection. I gotta give him credit. What I'm saying is I want Jacob Fatu, now that he has this belt. Obviously, we couldn't expect this in a match, but I want squash matches. I just want him to be dominating anybody that comes up to him with that belt.

Speaker 2: 38:10

I mean well, because if I remember hearing correctly in the chat there's apparently going to he's. I think he's doing an open challenge thing for the US title right now.

Speaker 1: 38:21

That's what I love to hear.

Speaker 2: 38:22

I love to hear it. I'm almost positive. That's what I heard in the group chat.

Speaker 1: 38:31

It's honestly the way to go for his character to be like Yo, anybody want some, come get some. Get out of there.

Speaker 2: 38:42

Yes, so apparently there's. I guess apparently there is a US Open Challenge callback that's supposed to be happening. I could be wrong. I don't know, damn, why is my phone acting crazy. I might have to look into that. But like, even then, like just the match in itself was great. I can understand where you're coming from with wanting to see him squash people and all this other stuff, but maybe now that he's got the title, with the way that LA Knight is presented and what he's been doing, like he couldn't squash la night, that that would have.

Speaker 1: 39:27

That would have killed la nights, karen I mean okay, yeah, yeah, I'm just saying that was me more so fantasy booking the situation like obviously, uh, it wouldn't happen. Like you still have some great moments the bft off the double, well off the moonsault. And then here's another thing. I know you probably hate in wrestling too, when people do their moves two times just to get the pin. No, not necessarily. I could have sworn you like it doesn't bother me, it depends.

Speaker 2: 39:58

It depends on the situation, and especially if you're someone who is like only it, has you got that. You just got one move, because when it comes to finishers, there's there's layers to this and whatnot, so it's like it's it's, it's all in how it's done. You know, I'm saying like I don't have a problem with false finishes, but it's how you use them and how you do them.

Speaker 1: 40:27

Okay, that's valid, that's valid.

Speaker 2: 40:30

With the way that everything happened here, like it made sense, and also because of the fact that Jacob Fatu is Jacob Fatu, it also still made sense in it.

Speaker 2: 40:40

On itself, batuu, it also still made sense in and of itself, and I do like the fact that after he won, he went back in there and beat the hell out of LA, as he should have, which I feel, though he did not, you know, get the squash match you were looking for. I think that kind of sort of puts puts the good, puts a good check mark on his, uh, monster mentality, if I may say. Like he is, he's doing the monster thing well, and he is, even though, like you know, he fought la night, and la night he didn't job out to him, but la night was fighting, and with the way that he was fighting you could tell la night was fighting with everything that he had, and j Fatu still beat him and then still had the wherewithal and the energy to continue to moonsault him so, best part, best part, I will say this match was definitely a solid A it was.

Speaker 1: 42:03

It was when we knew Wrestlemania was starting correct not saying that jay cargill and naomi wasn't doing that, it was a good match. But when I when I say that and that's no disrespect to any of the wrestlers beforehand but uh, this match was what brought the live, like it made you wake up and be like, okay, that was a spectacle, right, and it gave more of a lively feel to Mania, whereas the other matches kind of felt like stuff you would see on Raw normally.

Speaker 2: 42:41

So I think the important thing that this match did as well as I would still say for the Jade Cargill match is the fact that all of the stuff that's been happening since Elimination Chamber in regards to those two matches once we finally got to WrestleMania they made all of that matter, and remember that, because when we get to night two there's a lot of that that doesn't happen. But I can agree with giving that match a solid A. It was great, it was real good.

Speaker 1: 43:29

Definitely a solid A. It was great, it was real good. Definitely a solid egg From that match.

Speaker 2: 43:33

I believe we go right into your favorite, which was the Big American? Oh yeah, versus King Fire.

Speaker 1: 43:49

Rey Phoenix Absolutely. This match fortunately had to be updated versus King Firebird. Ray Phoenix man Absolutely. This match fortunately had to be updated because Ray Mysterio was unable to still compete. He got injured that SmackDown going against Julius Creed, julius Creed, which was a great match there. I just want to know what spot caused the injury. I'm definitely curious it kind of seemed fairly safe. You know, like a very safe match, and to know he got injured was crazy, uh.

Speaker 2: 44:19

But some people are saying that because of the whole uh merger that they did oh, you mean w buying triple a? Yeah, yeah, like some people are saying that Ray Mysterio pulled a fast one, was all like hey, I'm gonna step down, I'm gonna let Ray Phoenix take this, I'm gonna let him take my WrestleMania match.

Speaker 1: 44:39

You know what and I kind of can respect that. But also here's another thing Tony Khan, you fucking fumbled so hard, bro. How do you let these guys leave your promotion and like, literally one in like two months, gets a mania match, another one in two weeks? And no offense to penta, because penta is my guy, but ray phoenix is the more exciting one to watch, like penta. Penta is his character development, his, his psychology in the ring is great. But if you want lucha, like you want the craziness and the amazingness of lucha, you watch phoenix.

Speaker 1: 45:25

Okay, and boy did they deliver. Uh, I was about to call him his other name, the big American. You know he's doing a great job in this match. Technical work obviously gets to a point where he uses his metal plate, but constantly using it. At this point and I'm not even going to lie, I thought this match he was going to get masked, I thought he was going to get unmasked and we found out with Chad Gable and the story is over but apparently puts the metal plate on, gets the headbutts and gets the 1-2-3 from the Gulf of America.

Speaker 1: 46:02

Oh, actually they got rid of that. They're not even talking about the Gulf of America, more he's from the Gulf of Mexico.

Speaker 2: 46:07

Now they did bring it up again, though they did. They're trying to like which is hilarious, that they're trying to like cover up the fact that they said that shit.

Speaker 1: 46:20

They didn't want to do any political stuff. And now with the merger, yeah, they're fixing that shit immediately, bro.

Speaker 2: 46:27

However, the match was fun. It was fun, I will admit. I feel as if it could have, I feel like it could have been more, but it was fun for what they gave me.

Speaker 1: 46:44

I'm still saying it's a solid B.

Speaker 2: 46:47

I'm going to have to give it a C. I feel really, yeah, I feel that they didn't let Rey Phoenix enough, if that makes sense. You know what I'm saying. Like I don't think he, I don't think he got, as they would say, I don't think he got his shit in in this match. I I don't think he really got his shit in, I guess.

Speaker 1: 47:20

I guess, cause, yeah, whenever he hit the gringo kick, it was pretty much all she wrote, cause apparently he kicked the metal plate in his head. So I guess. So I truly feel like this was a great showing of who ray phoenix is and what he could do, because he was doing some crazy spots on mania man like that. Like I said, it's a joy to watch him. It's a real joy to watch him and what he can do, and you saw that tonight. But, like you said, you give, you give it a C, I give it a B.

Speaker 2: 47:53

And I feel as if and I think it's mostly, I think it might have a lot to do with the fact like with him, like I feel as if he should have went over or if they, if he wasn't going to go over like he did, I feel as if he could have got a bit more. But like I mean over, I'll be honest with you. Going into this, I was like, well, I don't got them. Grande Americano balls, I ain't hey. But I mean Rafe Phoenix did make me care about this match a little bit more.

Speaker 1: 48:30

It's fun to watch.

Speaker 2: 48:31

I do think about this match a little bit more. I will say I think this match Because it's fun to watch. I do think that this match was a better choice of a match than Chad and Rey Mysterio.

Speaker 1: 48:41

I will agree, definitely agree, definitely agree with it. It's a way better match. And you know, with that match, better match. And you know, with that match, um, we do. We finally go into the the. What was the second? What was the match after that one? Um, women's championship match. Okay, they okay. There you go, tiffany, okay, yeah, you go. Tiffany stratton versus Charlotte Flair. I got to apologize to the guys. It was a specific date yesterday where you got the chance to get lifted with your friends. We still somewhat lifted Now. So, yes, tiffany Stratton versus Charlotte Flair. Tiffany Stratton came out as a Barbie, apparently, in our post interview after winning the match, she said she wanted to do that in NXT and I said, nah, probably not right now. And then Triple H comes up and says, hey, you want to do it. And she's like fuck, yeah, we'll do that shit, hell, yeah. So she comes out as a Barbie. Charlotte Flair comes out there with the most absolute fire robe. The robe was fire. She damn near looked like a queen should.

Speaker 2: 50:01

Listen, hey, hey, hey. Screw those ass clowns out there. Who was talking about how she was looking like some goddamn Pepto-Bismol Fucking haters, bro, Back off my queen dog, Back off my queen dog, Back off my queen. She lost, but like.

Speaker 1: 50:23

I will say this is a well-paced match. Well-paced, you know, there was some decent storytelling, with the knee and both of their knees being, you know, pretty much the focal point of like submission and like what areas to attack. I'm not gonna lie, when it came to the finish, when she finally hit the previous movesaw ever, I didn't think that was it. I kind of felt like it was gonna get a little bit more and even though that match was kind of dragging, I just didn't finish. Like you know how the crowd will let you know this is the finish. Right, we kind of know the crowd didn't do that I agree on that particular bit.

Speaker 2: 51:01

I actually find it interesting that you did say it was well paced. I personally didn't have a problem with the pace of myself, but a lot of people did a lot of people.

Speaker 2: 51:11

Now, one thing I will admit that I could see that in the, in the cut, like from the in the beginning and then and going into like the middle of the match, that it felt like the chemistry was off a little bit like they were trying to. They were, you know, trying to figure each other out like how they actually want to do this type situation. But I feel like they pull it together at the end a lot of people, don't?

Speaker 1: 51:40

it led to Tiffy getting her teeth chipped oh yeah. Tiffany got beat the hell up. Apparently she got her teeth chipped, so that's one thing. So hopefully she can get that fixed.

Speaker 2: 51:52

She got teeth chipped, got the freaking knot on her head. It was a rough match, but I liked it. I thought it was good. They was hitting each other hard. They made me believe that they wanted to beat the hell out of each other, and they actually did very much. It was like I said it was a decent match.

Speaker 1: 52:10

I'm giving it a B. They wanted to beat the hell out of each other and they actually did Very much. It was like I said it was a decent match. I'm giving it a B. I'm giving it a B.

Speaker 2: 52:20

Um, I think, hmm, I'm barely giving it a B, I'm barely giving it a b, I'm barely giving you giving it b mice like it would be a b, like I don't want to say c, but like I'm barely giving it a b and that's only just because of the fact, like I know they could have done better. You know what I'm saying. Like because I've seen tiffany's matches. She has fire matches, excuse me, she has fire matches.

Speaker 2: 52:54

And granted, I know a lot of people just like to hate on charlotte flair because she's charlotte flair and so sometimes they just be having them those instead of rose-colored glasses. They got the the, the blood-seeking glasses where they just look at charlotte flair and it's just like everything she does is horrible and it's wrong and it's bad and fuck Charlotte, and we hate her and I mean she can't keep her husband and so I was like, but I feel sometimes people just let that, let that hate cloud the fact that she is legitimately that good in the ring and so but but hey, maybe I'm just a big charlotte mark who you know slobs on everything that she walks on. So who knows? You know what I'm saying. But regardless of how that goes, fuck you. First be here talking about some, don't be mad, because my female of choice is better than yours, okay, tiffany Stratton. Period, just period. We all know that she let her get this dub. Stratton would've won that, but she didn't.

Speaker 1: 54:11

Tonight she'll win later she couldn't even hold herself up in the promo. Well, I think she would like handling my title right now. Anyway, that match was a B. Great job to both Charlotte and Tiffany, keeping it professional, even though adding some spice to this match because, again, before that match, you know, there wasn't that much hype for it. They were able to make it spicy, make it washable, make it enjoyable. It gets a B from me. It gets a low B from Swag Switcher and I think from there, because Mania felt like it was going by really fast. So I don't think this was the main event next, was it?

Speaker 2: 54:56

On contrary, because funny that you say that because when we were watching it we were all like, man there's, this is going by really quickly. I mean I guess there must be one more match next. Yes, there is only one more match, and that was the Triple Threat match with Paul Heyman and CM Punk and Roman Reigns and Seth Monkey Lovin' Rollins. So what I will say? They did a great job of me actually caring about this match, because going into this match, story-wise it was stupid, kind of Like it was cool and then it was all like, oh, that's it okay, and then some weird stuff happened and then it was like what, what does that have to do with anything? What do you mean? You have, paul heyman owes you a favor, seth, like I don't. Why, what, what and when has Paul Heyman ever interacted with you for him to owe you anything? When? Just be what the favor is. Hey, since I didn't curve stomp you tonight, you're going to do me this solid at the pay-per-view.

Speaker 1: 56:27

Like huh, right now it's looking like that. It's looking like that, it's looking like that, you know, and and the match, the match was crazy and in the good way, by the way, it was good way, good back and forth. One of the spots I did love was when everybody did their signature on each other. So like um rome, I think, uh, either roman got gts or like punk try to GTS and he got speared and from the spear led to Seth getting um the curve stop and he passed out. I can't remember if it was like maybe he hit Seth with it and Seth like flew off and then Roman hit him and then from that he hit him with the the curve stop. So that was a really cool segment. I don't really say that was really cool spot, a real cool spot in that match.

Speaker 1: 57:18

And we get to a point where paul hayman has to choose between cm punk and roman reigns. He grabs a steel chair. Roman sees it, punk sees it, he passes the chair to punk and through the disbelief of Roman's face, he just can't believe it. He actually low-key starts, you can see he like starts to cry like a little bit, like no, like it's actually happening. And then it actually happens.

Speaker 1: 57:48

Paul Heyman low blows CM Punk and, through the amazement of the crowd, it was like, okay, we're going back to good old times and you see Roman again. So that same sympathy and same doubt in his face kind of shift into pure joy. This man looked like the weight of the world was off his shoulder. Cody rose, what you said doesn't matter, I still have my wise man.

Speaker 1: 58:19

And then playing his day, seth rollins is standing at the other side of the ring and paul heyman saying hey, this is your moment to get back at him. For the shield chair shot he's been doing to you almost two times Now, technically three, it was three, it was three. And as Roman is soaking into the moment, you could tell immediately something was about to happen. There's no reason for Paul to be right next to a man who's about to swing a chair in his direction outside of just hitting him in the balls. So guess what he did? He hits him in the balls and for some reason does this wiggle, as if he was just adding on extra spice to the hit to the balls.

Speaker 2: 59:08

That wiggle was because when he hit him in the nuts his arm actually got stuck, so he had to literally wiggle his arm free. Because I was wondering like why, why was all that extra?

Speaker 1: 59:19

oh, he, legitimately, was caught between this man's legs I'm gonna say is is the mightiness of roman of Roman's thighs, apparently. That's crazy. So Paul Heyman hits him with the low blow and Seth Rollins in the most architect way ever, which to me. Now I'm seeing Seth Rollins is really Triple H's and HBK's son. He's a workhorse like HBK and his shocking moments are very much Triple H-esque.

Speaker 2: 1:00:00

I would rather say he is the son of Shawn Michaels, but he was taught by Triple H.

Speaker 1: 1:00:13

Okay, okay.

Speaker 2: 1:00:17

Like Triple H, has taught him very, very well that, indeed, to the point where, right now, like I want to talk to the people who are out here saying that they knew Paul Heyman was going to join up with Seth Rollins I did a slight joke about it, like, outside of it being just a wild fucking hair up your ass hunch, that that was gonna happen, there's no evidence of reason why that should have been on anybody's mind outside of the fact that, like Paul Heyman looked like he might do something real weird, real stupid, and then he did it.

Speaker 1: 1:01:11

But it's like outside of that moment then, any time prior, why, why, why, apparently fitting, it was fitting, and I want to get your opinions on the heel turn. And where do you think it's going to go from there? Where do you think it's going to go next With Seth Rollins, Seth Rollins and Paul Hamer? Yep, what do you think is the next chapter of this story?

Speaker 2: 1:01:46

Well, maybe, just maybe, this might be Seth Rollins' chance to be a bad guy and stop dressing like a fucking idiot, because, it's no secret, he has no sense of style, do you?

Speaker 1: 1:02:06

forget.

Speaker 2: 1:02:07

He doesn't like wearing the shit that he does, do you forget? So maybe he'll go back to just you know.

Speaker 1: 1:02:14

good old Sethy boy do you forget that Becky Lynch is the man now and Seth Rollins is very much?

Speaker 2: 1:02:24

but Becky Lynch ain't telling him to do that. Nah, I'm gonna take.

Speaker 1: 1:02:30

I'm gonna take it straight from CM Punk. He says you do. He says you wear the pants in the relationship, but you do wear her panties, don't you? I?

Speaker 2: 1:02:48

have. Absolutely I have no predictions on what happens next with this match. To be honest, with the original predictions that I made, I had no predictions for what was going to happen on the aftermath of this match. Like if CM Punk would have won, like in my mind, it's just like alright, I guess we just go on to the next segment. If Roman Reigns would have won, like in my mind, it's just like all right, I guess we just go on to the next segment. If roman reigns would have won, then I was just like all right, I guess we just go on to the next segment. If seth rollins would have won first off, it didn't make sense for seth rollins to win at the time. So I was like, if Seth Rollins would win, I absolutely have no idea what would happen next. But I wasn't thinking about it because I I guess, foolishly knew that wasn't going to happen. Now here we are, a whole bunch of I don't know what the heck is going to happen.

Speaker 1: 1:03:52

It's nice and that was night one. It ended with Paul Heyman and Seth Rollins leaving the ring. Roman, distraught, not knowing what he needs to do next, not knowing what he's going to do next, walks off the ring, rocks out the ring, walks up the red is if somebody just told him I don't like you, you got cooties. And he just is sad he can't pick up the girl of his dreams. And then CM Punk. Cm Punk looked like he went to his favorite restaurant for his favorite treat and he saw they just ran out and they're not making any more. And he was just distraught as well.

Speaker 2: 1:04:32

Yeah, they both, yeah, they both got dumb.

Speaker 1: 1:04:36

I will have to say this it's very close to an S rank, only because the heel turn threw me off the heel turn. It's kind of making it an s, but it's definitely a, it's definitely an a, but I'm just like a part of me wants to say it's an s because you know, it's good moments, it was good chemistry in the ring from all three of them the, the spot with roman and seth about to do the, the shield power bomb, and he says, no, I'm going to smack out of face and do it. There was some really great spots, really great spots. So I, lowkey, want to give it an S, but I kind of want to give it an A.

Speaker 2: 1:05:21

I'm definitely going to give it an A in that particular department and it's because of the fact that, like, especially compared to the matches that were had, like there was there was story being told, there was, there was things happening in the match that kept me hooked in and whatnot, I will say they could have calmed the fuck down with the false finishes a little bit. No, they were boy they. It's almost like one of those things that like, oh well, I mean shit, since AEW is doing it, I guess we might as well do it too. You know, on some blue skidoo type shit. So I'm just like all right guys, not you saying blue skidoo?

Speaker 2: 1:06:06

Listen. Wwe looked at them and said we can too. And they false finishes everywhere. Technical difficulties over there, bro.

Speaker 1: 1:06:21

Just readjusting my chair, that's it.

Speaker 2: 1:06:23

Oh, readjusting my chair. It's a solid A. It was. It's a solid a. It is like cause it for at first I felt like it was probably going to be, uh, like a, a, b minus, but, like they, it was a match I didn't care about and they made me care about it.

Speaker 1: 1:06:48

And that's all I can ask for, I guess.

Speaker 2: 1:06:50

As a wrestling fan, as where the first match was a match I cared about and they made me really feel upset about caring about it Going into night two, aka the real fucking WrestleMania as far as I'm concerned.

Speaker 2: 1:07:12

I will agree like this, like night 2 actually felt like Wrestlemania freaking like the first going off rip with the first match, io Sky, bianca Belair and Rhea Ripley. My only gripe, my only gripe, my only gripe with that match. I don't think Bianca should have took that pin. I don't. Rhea Ripley should have got pinned tonight. Rhea Ripley should have got pinned tonight because because fuck her right now. She fam. You already know where I'm coming with this. She had no business, oh my god, this nigga.

Speaker 1: 1:08:03

Oh my god, here we go bro.

Speaker 2: 1:08:07

No business. She had no business. This was not her match to be in.

Speaker 1: 1:08:11

Well, how about this? Because she had no business, bianca took the pin. So if it was Bianca versus Io, bianca would have took the pin anyway. So technically, technically, you got what you wanted.

Speaker 2: 1:08:24

No, because, when you look at how it all happened, bianca was about to win by pinning Rhea Ripley, but because she was distracted by this. Why, why, when, when? Crybaby Rhea Ripley, I want to get in this match, even though I got no business being it Because of all that. Yes, she got pinned, but Rhea Ripley was the one who took all the hits and got beat, but Bianca just got unlucky because, distracted by crybaby, rhea Ripley, miss had no business being in this match because she lost twice.

Speaker 1: 1:09:17

Twice Look, he made it official.

Speaker 2: 1:09:25

Horrible parenting. You know why I say horrible parenting on his part? Because there's no reason why we should be rewarding bad behavior.

Speaker 1: 1:09:39

As for someone who doesn't have kids, I'm going to let you take that and you have the full examples and knowledge of that. So I just feel like this match was great.

Speaker 2: 1:09:53

Oh, the match was great, it was fucking slapper.

Speaker 1: 1:09:58

There was nothing wrong with this match Like spectacle wise.

Speaker 2: 1:10:05

Yeah no, this match was really good. This match was really great.

Speaker 1: 1:10:12

This match was really great. This match was really great. Honestly, I think the best part was the combination of I think it was a look it was about to be a double powerbomb, but it was kind of like a face buster because Io backflipped or something like that. It was a really interesting top row spot. It wasn't your typical, which you would see in most matches, where they do the oh, I'm a powerbomb, you suplex thing like it's so so done, it's so overrated. I'm so sometimes I'm so tired of seeing it, especially when it's like two people on the buckle and then two people. It's like bro, it's too much, stop. So this match I'm definitely giving an a, definitely give it a oh yeah, I definitely give this match an a like.

Speaker 2: 1:10:59

If anything, out of all of the matches, this match is the closest one. This match was the closest to an S I could possibly have done, but I'm not going to give it an S. It's still going to be an A.

Speaker 1: 1:11:18

A to an L.

Speaker 2: 1:11:22

Which was missing in my WrestleMania. I don't understand. I'm kidding. I'm kidding, I'm fucking motherfuckers.

Speaker 1: 1:11:32

So next after that was that the Damien Priest yes, damien Priest and Drew McIntyre that was oh, go ahead well I would say it was solid.

Speaker 2: 1:11:48

You know, like I feel, unlike the previous night, this one was a match that it's build up met the outcome. I do think they could have gotten a bit more street fighting with this match. I feel like they kind of they was like street fight light, but you know.

Speaker 1: 1:12:14

Completely valid. Completely valid, I mean, we did get that table spot, we did get the Claymore with the kick His head on the opposite side of a chair and he does the Claymore which is kicking his head into the chair. I knew Drew needed this and I think I think some people said Damian needed this. But no, drew needed this. He's been losing. He lost two manias now and then he just hasn't been getting a break. He was almost in Penn Bowler. He's not in Penn Bowler, he's not in Penn Bowler territory. But he was starting to get Penn Bowler treatment where he's like, oh cool, he's all talk, he's all talk, but he's losing the big ones.

Speaker 1: 1:13:04

But unlike Finn Bowler correct Penn, and we're going to get into why it's Penn soon. Finn Balor, correct pin, and we're going to get into why it's pin soon.

Speaker 2: 1:13:16

Unlike Finn, where Drew McIntyre has his matches whether, when it comes to how he loses Drew McIntyre, he loses with grace in a bit of triumph, like he will lose, but like you had to fight for him to lose. You know what I'm saying. Like him versus what was it? What was the last? What was the last, like crazy, the last, his last little match that he had, like um, where he lost. That was the big you're talking about damien.

Speaker 1: 1:13:59

I'm not damien um.

Speaker 2: 1:14:00

You're talking about drew right um, because, well, it was the elimination chamber if you think about the punk matches. But going to the punk match right when he lost, but it was like one of those, like he lost, but the person who won, they won at what cost? You know what I'm saying. So it's he's. He's been losing in a way where it's like it has not stomped his shine out, unlike Finn.

Speaker 2: 1:14:42

He's been losing in a way where his credibility has been destroyed A little bit In that particular department. But, like as far as this went, though, like I will say, I am surprised that they didn't let damien get this win, and even more so I'm a little surprised at how much they let Drew McIntyre beat Damien's ass like it was. It was decently back and forth, but to me it felt like that Drew was taking it to Damien. But overall, it was a good one. I give it a solid B.

Speaker 1: 1:15:35

I'll give it a B too, because I like the spots, especially the double table spot, and you know they were actually using decent weapons. I felt like it was a great. Honestly, that would have been a no. No, the EO match was a great. Honestly, that would have been a no. The EO match was a good opener. Okay, I think that was a good second. It was a good second.

Speaker 2: 1:16:00

I take that back, I think it was in the right spot because the match that happens next the match that happens next. Intercontinental title Bronathan Penta, finn and your boy, dominic Mysterio.

Speaker 1: 1:16:25

I knew it, motherfucker. I said that shit that Dominic was gonna win that damn belt, cause it's gonna be good for the story. It's gonna be good for the story Listen.

Speaker 2: 1:16:42

Ever since Lord Zay was on this podcast and he just randomly said I feel that dominic mysterio is going to have something to do with this intercontinental title match and he's leaving out of there with the belt. Ever since he said that two and a half weeks prior to him, even actually seeming like he was going to have anything to do with this match. When he finally became, I saw that. Oh wow, lord Zay used Future Sight and it was super effective. I'm going to stick with it.

Speaker 1: 1:17:27

Here's the spectacle, because this is such a bright future for Dominic. Here's the spectacle. We got here manic mysterio monday night, we gonna. We gonna watch freaking cinema as finn buckles down in the, the judgment day starts to break and dominic mysterio, he's finally gonna shine. He's gonna shine so much that you're gonna have to wear shades, like me, just to see what greatness comes up next. But when it comes to the match, what are your thoughts?

Speaker 2: 1:18:04

For a four way match and especially with all the elements that was included into the match, I think it was good. It was solid.

Speaker 1: 1:18:14

It was solid. Okay, Solid match. I will definitely say the solid. Oh sorry.

Speaker 2: 1:18:23

Oh no, I was just saying the fact there really wasn't anything yay or nay about the match, it was just solid.

Speaker 1: 1:18:34

It was well done. Okay, I, I was gonna say because there was a point where, um, just the energy from the match was good. Everybody seems to have a different mindset on how to approach it, but it will all beneficial in their own ways. I truly love the part where, you know, Dominic comes up, frog splash, gets to win and again he even pins pin Balor. And you know, somebody in our chat said Penn Balor strikes again. And yeah, unfortunately he was the one that took the pin. Come on.

Speaker 2: 1:19:27

I kind of knew that was going to happen, Because I was like if Dominic Mysterio is going to win, it only makes sense that he's going to pin Finn.

Speaker 1: 1:19:37

It only makes sense Because I feel like, with this match, it's really going to be all about what happens on Raw Monday. That's where it goes from. Here is what happens on Raw Monday, and that's what I'm looking forward to more than anything. What is going to happen on Raw.

Speaker 2: 1:20:01

Oh, and you already know, Raw is about to be stupid.

Speaker 1: 1:20:06

Raw is about to be better than Mania with night one.

Speaker 2: 1:20:10

Honestly. Well, that's not going to be hard. That's not hard, unfortunately. Yes, I mean it might be a little tough to live up to their main event, but like, I can't really say too much for Bron Breaker.

Speaker 1: 1:20:31

I mean congrats, thank you so much for the title reign, creating really great moments, like the spear on Carlito. Good stuff, good stuff. And when it comes to that spear, let's kind of spear right into that next match. What's that next match? We got there.

Speaker 2: 1:20:49

So that next match Randy Orton.

Speaker 1: 1:21:00

God damn it.

Speaker 2: 1:21:06

Say his name and he appears.

Speaker 1: 1:21:08

No, when I tell y'all, randy Orton vs Joe Henry Was not on my WWE bingo slot for 2020. You know 2025. This motherfucker is still singing the damn song, doing the hand claps god damn it, anyway I would prefer him singing. If I'm here singing anyway, and from side to side to me Anyway, I would prefer him singing it from here. But this match would have technically been your P-Break match, because it wasn't anything crazy about it, but it was still good to see.

Speaker 2: 1:21:56

Obviously, this one was definitely for the spectacle of it all. It was the fact that we saw and witnessed a whole TNA champion, belt and all in our Wrestlemania and then, of all people to get such a Wrestlemania moment. Joe Henry, I don't think we could have picked a better person to get such a WrestleMania moment. Joe Henry, mm-hmm, I don't think we could have picked a better person.

Speaker 1: 1:22:25

You are. You were not wrong. You were not wrong. I just know that the whole point of this match, once we got, we were giving it, it was hey, we want to just do the hard cam thing on Joe Henry and you just come out of nowhere and RKO him. And then that was to me like that. There's even memes on it already. I haven't said it to you, but there's a meme of it already.

Speaker 2: 1:22:52

It's just Joe Henry and then the I was hitting it with the RKO and with that, jojo, continue, basically. Which that would be? Basically it was. I mean it was, it was fun. I almost don't even want to rate it like it wasn't, like it was just, I'm not gonna lie. Here's a little TNA in your Wrestlemania. Boy, like now. I want a little bit of now. I want a little bit of WWE. Am I bound for glory?

Speaker 1: 1:23:28

that's what I need as that one guy to be slow down there, buckaroo. Wow, slow down there, buckaroo. Uh, one, one step at a time. That was that was already a major thing. But kudos, joe, henry, for getting a wrestlemania moment and a hunter even saying bro, this is your first wrestlemania moment, you're gonna have many other ones. So so henry already gets a cosign from hunter, from paul avec very interesting singer fangirl as well I say they're triple h.

Speaker 2: 1:24:06

You know what I'm saying. Like you know, he still works for tna, right? You can't just what, you what?

Speaker 1: 1:24:12

you're trying to do, brother, uh, say his name and he appears. Ain't that the fucking phrase? You'd be like yo. Who's they probably sitting in the office? I mean, who's Randy Orton going to opponent, going to be stupid? If it's Joe Henry, say his name. Oh, what the fuck? So come here. He's like we weren't even serious. Look, I'm here now. So that's how it feels. That's how it feels.

Speaker 2: 1:24:41

Listen, I was 100% for it. I love me, jim Joe Henry. Granted, if a certain someone would have kept it, could you imagine if my boy bruh if he would have came up was still the champion and he was the one that showed up.

Speaker 1: 1:25:04

Would he have came out as TNA music, or you think he would've came out as Dolph Ziggler?

Speaker 2: 1:25:11

He would have to come out to his TNA music, because that's where he's at now. The same reason why, when Biggie James was there, she came out to her TNA music. True, but Hardcore country.

Speaker 1: 1:25:30

That's always a crazy statement, knowing the history, but it would have been great, now I'm'm gonna be real.

Speaker 2: 1:25:43

okay, this next match, though, I did not have any expectations for it. I don't think it lived up to any of them, if I even made them Logan Paul and AJ Styles yep this match was.

Speaker 2: 1:26:11

It wasn't bad, of course Logan Paul won, but like, like it's one of those. This is like the match that I knew I wouldn't have had much to really say about. Like, cause it was really just there. It was like hey, you want a big money match there, champ? Now, what I was interested in, and I'm now interested to see where it's going to go, is carrying crosses involvement. Karrion Kross is the only reason that this match even mattered for me, because what he was doing prior with this trying to bring out the bad AJ Styles and stuff like that, you know, trying to make him go dark and stuff like that, you know, trying to make him to go dark and then he shows up with the you know and does the thing outside the ring when trying to convince him to take the use, the brass knuckles.

Speaker 1: 1:27:08

And AJ Styles is like I'm not doing it just for him to lose and it's all like you know, it's kind of funny how this ending is going to be very similar somewhat to the main event. But is that just me? That is me.

Speaker 2: 1:27:26

A little bit. I hear you I hear you, yeah, but like Logan Paul takes W, I mean, at the end of the day they looked great. It was a solid match. Like I barely. I almost don't want to give it a B, but I can't find a reason to say I'd want to give it a C. So what would you want to give it a C? You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1: 1:28:02

So what would you rank it?

Speaker 2: 1:28:03

They did just enough. They did just enough for me to allow them to have a B and I think what helps solidifies that is the fact that there's something to go, as the fact that there's something to go, there is still something that is going to come of this continuing on. Because Karrion Kross' involvement, because now I know that, okay, this wasn't just a alright. We had a Logan Paul match and now who gives a fuck?

Speaker 1: 1:28:35

So you're thinking Karrion Kross is going to maybe team up with Logan, or you just think he was just part of that one and done he's not going to team up?

Speaker 2: 1:28:46

I don't think, but I know there's going to be some more development with Karrion Kross, or at least AJ Styles is going to feel some type of way, because Karrion Kross kind of sort of put his nose in the business when AJ Styles does not want his nose to be there, and so it's like there's different avenues that we can go with this carrying across and AJ Styles bit, even if it does not cares or includes Logan Paul, because it's probably not going to include Logan Paul, because it's Logan not going to include Logan Paul, because Logan Paul he just fights at pay-per-views, he doesn't do anything else. He is a spectacle, as we're throwing the word around.

Speaker 1: 1:29:33

Damn son.

Speaker 2: 1:29:36

But, I'm fine with that. Logan Paul's cool. He's fun to watch. I don't care about Logan. Logan Paul's cool, he's fun to watch. Blah, blah, blah. But like I don't care about Logan Paul, give me my AJ Styles. Let me see what they're doing. Do a Karrion Kross? Let's move on with that now. I'm fine with this solid B.

Speaker 1: 1:29:54

You know, we got a good low down from Paul and I had to explain that to somebody that was like, oh no, it's the frog splash. No, that is good low down from paul. And I had to explain that to somebody that was like, oh no, it's the frog splash. Like, no, that is the low down. Okay, uh, frog splash, you bend knees low down. You don't bend, you do so good load oh, go ahead.

Speaker 2: 1:30:12

I was like, yeah, frog splash, you bend knees and stuff. Low down legs stay out and you're throwing the hands down as low as you can possibly get.

Speaker 1: 1:30:26

It was. It definitely was an eye match, definitely, definitely eye Nothing too crazy to write home with, which is where we kind of go into the next match, which I believe is the tag match, definitely, definitely. I nothing too crazy to write home with, which is you know where we kind of go into the next match, which I believe is the tag match, right, the one that you were so dead set on those two winning and suddenly we find out that Becky can't be a part of this match and she gets jumped.

Speaker 1: 1:31:01

Oh, lo and behold, her partner, valkyria's partner, is the man himself. Man, when Becky Lynch came out, Becky Lynch, I don't know, I was, I want to say, a bit bit frustrated. I feel like it should have been. It could be somebody, but like, is becky gonna be weekly coming back to you know, episodic tv, or she's still on this hiatus because you know she originally didn't resign with the company because they just couldn't come to an agreement with her contract.

Speaker 2: 1:31:41

So there must have been some agreement now, because now she's not only with the company but she's also defending those tag team titles at NXT against Lyra, valkyria's old best friend in. I forget the other girl's name off the top of my head.

Speaker 1: 1:31:58

So, so, so that's it. I forget the other girl's name off the top of my head. So, so, so, when it when it comes to that, we've always had situations where somebody is still doing things with a firm handshake. Cause, uh, kolkata. While he was in new Japan for a while, he was doing a lot of things with just a firm handshake because he wanted to make his ventures to America. And then you had similar situations where, um, think of people like mankind, so many wrestlers who've, like their contract is ending and it couldn't come to a mutual agreement, but they're part of a storyline, sort of like, hey, can we still have you? And then we, you know, even though you're not obligated, or like you're getting your, uh, under contract pay. So, um, or like, you're getting your under contract pay. So a lot of them have those situations like this, similar, and that's what you're thinking.

Speaker 2: 1:32:47

This is.

Speaker 1: 1:32:49

I'm not too sure right now. We're going to do some research to see, when it comes to Becky, if she's staying or going, because a lot of word was people saying she was going to go somewhere and I'm like WWE is her home, she leaves, then she's pulling an edge. She's pulling an edge. I don't think that's her. I don't think that's her. Uh, I do think going nowhere.

Speaker 2: 1:33:10

Yeah, I'm doing tv shows and having fun and being a mommy and whatnot, but, like as far as what we just saw, her having those titles is going to mean she's back Now.

Speaker 2: 1:33:27

Maybe she might not be wrestling every time, but that's what Lyra's for kind of thing, but she's still the tag champion, so she's got to do the thing. Which is why I said and because it was announced on for NXT that whoever won the match that was at NXT, that team was going to fight, whoever came out of WrestleMania Tag Team Champions and the big Bexter and Lyra which, when you look at the papers, it all makes sense because Bex and Lyra Becky, they both had like before she left, they were scrapping and fighting each other. So it was like there was stuff there Okay. So it was like, with the fact that like her and Lyra are, and then she don't like these two because of their previous engagement, it was like I guess it makes sense why it could have been Becky, but Becky been gone for a minute and it kind of showed in the ring a little bit.

Speaker 1: 1:34:54

I ain't going not the ring rest she had a little bit listen.

Speaker 2: 1:35:01

That's why Lyra was in there doing the brunt of the work. Don't think I didn't catch that.

Speaker 1: 1:35:11

I will give this match a B, put my personal feelings aside here me put my personal feelings aside here oh here we go, I'll agree okay it was a solid.

Speaker 2: 1:35:37

All right, it was a solid, it was a solid match. It wasn't. It wasn a solid match, it wasn't terrible. It was Granite Beth Phoenix. Geez, why do I have Beth Phoenix on my mind?

Speaker 1: 1:35:46

right now Get a load of this.

Speaker 2: 1:35:49

But Becky, miss Lynch, the man, the man, she a little rusty, but I'm sure she'll pick it back up. But like, outside of that little bit of ring'm sure she'll pick it back up, but outside of that little bit of ring rush that she kind of had going on. Nah, it was solid. Lyra held it down, liv Morgan and Raquel, they stayed doing it. So I'm just like, okay, okay, all right, I enjoyed it, the match.

Speaker 1: 1:36:20

like I said, it's definitely a decent match. Nothing too crazy, Nothing to write home to outside of the man slam and getting the one, two, three.

Speaker 2: 1:36:31

When it comes to my personal feelings. Bethlehem, you got to get the fuck out of here. Fuck that goddamn channel man.

Speaker 1: 1:36:42

I will agree. But damn just fuck. The rudeness is crazy, the rudeness in the rudeness, the rudeness.

Speaker 2: 1:36:52

Oh okay, but we can just talk all kinds of shit about my queen, but you know, I speak my piece about how I feel about the man and O'Homory.

Speaker 1: 1:37:02

Alright, alright, but the queen kind of deserves it, but that's a different topic, a different day. We gotta talk about the most important match of this pay-per-view, this PLE, whatever the hell you want to call it.

Speaker 2: 1:37:21

Fam, I don't even want to talk.

Speaker 1: 1:37:24

Bitch. That's why we here.

Speaker 2: 1:37:29

What? What is there to talk about? What, Maz? What do you want to talk about?

Speaker 1: 1:37:39

Let's talk about how John Cena came out to his fucking name on the TitanTron. And that was his TitanTron, and this is his last mania. He's not running down like Cena, and a part of me was a bit torn Because you know, whenever he's about to hit that course and you get the 3 seconds hand, scrabble though, scrabble though. You don't do it.

Speaker 2: 1:38:09

Yeah, no, you didn't get no John Cena.

Speaker 1: 1:38:14

I do find it funny, though, that when he gets the actual strap, when he wins the match, he does it. He does the three like he pulls the belt up, he does it right on time. So it's funny, he does it. But before we can kind of go into details of this match, this match was the storytelling. The storytelling is really difficult to to kind of pick up on because it's really a normal fucking match until travis stock, travis scott comes out there, and with travis scott I I didn't expect him to get in the ring. He did get all ballsy in the face of Cody Rhodes and gets hit with a crossroads and doesn't realize he needs to take a powder and get out the ring.

Speaker 2: 1:39:06

So Cody just kicks that motherfucker out the ring damn Cody Rhodes, put some stink on that crossroads dog oh yeah, that motherfucker probably was actually that crossroads was stiff. Rightfully so, that crossroads was stiff.

Speaker 1: 1:39:25

Rightfully so. Well, we get to that next part where Cena has the belt, he's going to smack him with the belt and then Cody catches him and then John Cena provokes it, says hey, man, here's your moment, do a heel thing, take advantage of the moment and make sure you secure the win. And he does it. And then he costs him Kick to the balls A-A One, two, three. So let's talk about in that moment, when he gets that one, two, three, swag switcher. What was your immediate reaction?

Speaker 2: 1:40:11

trying to recall. Oh, that's right, man, it's. That is stupid. This is stupid, this is dumb, this is garbage, that's it. That's how we're doing it. Why even Travis Scott? Why any of this?

Speaker 2: 1:40:37

It was a letdown. Why any of this it was a letdown? It's one of those deals where I feel there were things that has happened in the whole build-up to this match that did not need to happen happened. There needed to be an equal or better reaction to those actions that were done and they didn't have. Listen, I think I broke it down.

Speaker 2: 1:41:12

I don't know if it was on camera or not, but like, if we could have had, if we could have had everything that had happened right, minus the rock and Travis Scott's involvement, I wouldn't be bitching right now. I wouldn't be. And the reason why I wouldn't be is because it makes sense. Everybody in the group chat were all like, oh, thank god, we didn't have a Dwayne Johnson in this match. I'm like, but we kind of needed him. Yeah, because we needed him to make this whole angle make sense. How are we just thinking about this now? Right, like we kind of pulled a we honestly we almost kind of pulled. Like a classic Dragon Ball Z problem. Yeah, okay, where we forget the fact that we did this all the way over here and then we just act as if it never happened. You know what?

Speaker 2: 1:42:17

I'm saying we going on into the beginning, the Rock wants Cody Rhodes' soul and I want you to let me know. Are you with me or are you against me? Let me know by Elimination Chamber, because if you're against me, there's going to be problems and consequences and your life will be a miserable hell. Okay, some really tough things to be saying there, final boss. So we get to elimination chamber go fuck yourself, okay, okay. Chamber Go fuck yourself, okay, okay, alright, I gotcha, alright. Well, rock, what are you going to do about that? He told you to fornicate your own person. What you gonna do about it?

Speaker 2: 1:43:16

To fornicate his own person, All fancy with it Like it was really meaning something. And John Cena looked the Rock in his face and gave him his best Rikishi impersonation. I did it for the Rock and he kicks him in the nuts and all that happens okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 2: 1:43:39

Dwayne Johnson has everything to do with everything with this goddamn match. I don't care what anybody says. He was the final boss, Cody Rhodes. He couldn't buy his soul. So, without using words, but with all the theatrics, it, it, it. I guess that means that John Cena has sold his soul to Dwayne Johnson, Is it? Or did I miscommunicate that somehow?

Speaker 2: 1:44:15

I maybe maybe, maybe, but, but, but. But why? If he did not sell his soul to Dwayne, then why was it so important that he get the signal from Dwayne Johnson to do all of these things Like? Why was that supposed to be important? You have? A point why did they have to do anything with anything?

Speaker 1: 1:44:45

You have a point, and that is honestly the biggest frustration when it comes to this match on paper, because after the promos and everything, you're just like you're craving something. Yeah, he was there too. Let's not talk about him. We just brought him up briefly because he got crossroads. No, no, no. We brought him up because we want to talk about him getting crossroads. We want to talk about that Him getting hurt, him getting his ass kicked. But the thing.

Speaker 2: 1:45:23

That gets me so going back to it. Right, because, as of right now, it's been heavily implied that Dwayne the Rock Johnson and Travis Scott are in coots and they're both the heels in thisots and they're both the heels in this manner and they are part of the sell your soul tribe of the final boss, and it has been inferred that John Cena has sold his soul to the final boss. It's been inferred relatively heavily. Now, all the way up until this match tonight it was like, okay, maybe it's not inferred.

Speaker 2: 1:46:15

And then Travis Scott comes out, all right, and he comes out, alright, and he comes out and John Cena's all like, ah, there's my backup, there's my piece of this final boss pie, there's my stuff. He's all happy and joyous because he's like yup, this is exactly what the fuck I need to get the job done tonight and leave out of here with the title yes, sir, this, that man right there, oh, travi my boy. So is Travis Scott just a representation of? Oh, travi my boy. So is Travis Scott just a representation of the final boss in his absence in this particular case? Because once again, this is now tying in the fact that, okay, so John Cena does have some kind of ties to his soul being sold to the final boss, because he would not have this power to summon Travis Scott to come down there to the ring to aid.

Speaker 1: 1:47:36

Maybe I will say this much. When it comes to the match, it was fairly decent. The ending wasn't what I was expecting. The ending was garbage. The finish was very much oh, I hit you with belt. Iaa is done, and even Russell Talk. I watched their reaction to it as well. They were just like, oh, I was the finish.

Speaker 2: 1:48:05

Yeah yeah. You know why it was probably like that? Because all the stuff and all the buildup that they had leading into this did not equal the payout as a matter of fact. It only it didn't just not equal the payout as a matter of fact, it didn't just not equal the payout. But if the final price was $10.99, homie didn't even give me the proper bills. He out here with like change and it's not exactly.

Speaker 1: 1:48:35

Not the proper bills bro.

Speaker 2: 1:48:39

Not only was it not exact change, but, for whatever fucking reason, homie came up here and was like hey, what could I get with like eight euros? You know what I'm saying? Like, in this case, nothing, because that's not what we asked for, that's not what we advertised. And now here we are. No final boss. Like it or not, he needed to be there to make any of this dumb stuff make sense. We got Travis got for no fucking reason.

Speaker 1: 1:49:14

We got him for the reason, for the distraction which gave us the crossroads, which gave us the beltroads, which gave us the belt which gave us the AA but hear me on this, the way it was originally presented.

Speaker 2: 1:49:28

Travis Scott comes out there. He's staying on the ring. The fuck was he gonna do the referee? The referee was looking at both of them like you're looking at me with those sunglasses, all right.

Speaker 2: 1:49:43

Okay, the fuck was he going to do? What was he going to do? And then he holds him like, hey, travis, get a shot. This is a disqualification type match, brother. If you, there's a reason why we didn't do anything until after referee got knocked out. The referee was up, so what are you just gonna let him? Let Travis Scott hit him and the referee's gonna be like, oh well, I guess that's disqualification, buddy, you lose.

Speaker 1: 1:50:24

Not at Mania, you would have let us laugh. It's Mania, no.

Speaker 2: 1:50:31

Nigga, you sound like them AEW motherfuckers, where it's all like it doesn't make any sense, but like that's exactly what should happen though it's honestly what you got.

Speaker 1: 1:50:54

It's literally what you got. It got like you got a main event with Seth Rollins and Paul Heyman which you're like what the fuck? And then you get John Cena winning the belt, which I knew was going to happen and honestly, the story I wanted, but how he did it and how it wasn't the grand spectacle. Like we've had two WrestleManias where those main events were like that was like the Avengers, my guy, and do you get this mad lackluster one, not no, no tricks, no, nothing outside of you know travis scott, but yeah, and you get it to go one, two, three in the show and then it just didn't feel like it ended the right way so you're correct, it did not.

Speaker 2: 1:51:39

Actually I would if travis scott was not there it would have made everything that happened make a thousand times more sense and a bit more meaningful if we did not have this whole final boss fiasco in the very beginning. Because that was a big distraction to everything with the story. Because up until this point we're all like, okay, okay, we get it, you guys are going to have these talks, but what about the final boss? Because it's not actually been answered.

Speaker 1: 1:52:23

this whole time no one is saying whether or not.

Speaker 2: 1:52:25

If this does, did john cena sell his soul? Like, did he actually sell out to the rock? Or because right now, at this point, it's kind of like, no, he didn't sell out to the rock. He he just, I guess, used the Rock real quick as a very, very brief distraction so he could kick him in the nuts. And if that's the case, then why did he need the Rock to tell him to do it, like if the Rock wasn't going to have anything to do with any of this at the end? It's stupid.

Speaker 1: 1:52:56

Absolutely dumb.

Speaker 2: 1:52:57

Waste time. It was a waste of time. I mean putting my feelings aside here. The match was not bad.

Speaker 1: 1:53:10

C. I give it a.

Speaker 2: 1:53:12

C, but because of the fact that I gotta add, it's a C and it's a low one, because they, they, the build-up absolutely missed. It didn't meet. It did not just not meet the expectations, the build-up completely missed the fucking mark.

Speaker 1: 1:53:43

I agree, I agree, not meet the expectations. The build-up completely missed the fucking mark, I'll agree, and I'll agree that wasn't. It wasn't a spectacle behind. I mean, I really thought this match was gonna be crazy, man. I thought this match was gonna be crazy and it was crazy, all right. Crazy, predictable, crazy, predictable. We got cena as champ now and now I'm like man, cena is your last run man, make these next couple of matches memorable, make these next moments memorable. And he's staying in character, even in the interviews and everything. And that was wrestlemania. And, yes, this was a very, very lukewarm mid-mania. It was just, it wasn't disappointing, it was just more so, it was shocking. But this was advertised the way it was, it was promoted the way it was, and you looked at some of the matches, like we said before, and it was just like I don't know about that one and it showed. It showed. Mania turned out to be the I don't know about this one listen.

Speaker 2: 1:54:47

Like it got me going back to that comment that I saw in the group chat. I'm like man, did I actually have rose colored glasses on this whole time? I'd like to not think that I did like. I think there was substance to this Wrestlemania.

Speaker 1: 1:55:04

They just failed to deliver and then you got stand and deliver. Come on, you want me to give me an ad. I can talk about your stuff in the future, but uh, I will agree. Uh, rust man was c, definitely a c um.

Speaker 2: 1:55:28

Delivery was better damn damn well.

Speaker 1: 1:55:36

Mania unfortunately did not hit the mark as we thought it would. We had a lot of preparation, a lot of hype and matches. Uh, I would say my predictions went well. I had a couple of mishaps, uh, same thing for swag. But man, when I say this mania could have been better, uh, especially with how they were advertising, it could have been better, but it wasn't. But it wasn't bad, but it wasn't good, so it wasn't bad.

Speaker 2: 1:56:04

It was not what was advertised there you go, there you go.

Speaker 1: 1:56:08

So what do you guys thoughts in the comment section? Please let us know what your thoughts when it came to mania do you? Do you think it was good? Do you think it was bad, and what do you think it was good? Do you think it was bad and what do you think you would improve about it? Uh, give me your, uh, we'll give us your ideas of how you would make mania better, whether if it's updating a match, whether if you're putting on a specific match. Let us know how you would have made mania better in the comment section. And again, thank you so much.

Speaker 1: 1:56:34

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Speaker 2: 1:57:30

It's your boy, the most disappointed swag switcher of all times.

Speaker 1: 1:57:40

It is what it is and Wrestlemania is over, looking forward to Raw and we'll see you guys soon. Deuces.