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Hit the Music
Wrestling's soundtrack shapes our fandom in ways we rarely acknowledge - until we try ranking the greatest entrance themes ever created. In this episode, we first tackle WWE's recent wave of talent releases, dubbed "Black Friday" by the wrestling community, and contemplate what's next for stars like Braun Strowman, Dakota Kai, and Shayna Baszler.
The Monster Among Men stands at a crossroads - does he need to recapture his dominant persona that made him a main event player, or embrace his authentic self? Meanwhile, Dakota Kai's injury-plagued run raises questions about where she might fit outside WWE's system. For Shayna Baszler, we see immense potential in TNA's respected Knockouts division, where her legitimate fighting background could make her an immediate champion.
Then our conversation evolves into a passionate debate over the greatest entrance themes in wrestling history. From Kane's hellfire to Goldust's theatrical masterpiece, from Beer Money's southern swagger to the gothic perfection of The Brood - these compositions aren't mere background music but cultural touchstones that instantly transport us back to specific moments in time.
Our countdown reveals the deeply personal connections we form with wrestling's musical identity. These themes become emotional anchors, triggering nostalgia and excitement in equal measure. The heated debate over forgotten gems like Dean Malenko's theme and surprising omissions like Matt Hardy's "Version 1" demonstrates how entrance music creates complete sensory experiences that connect fans to performers in ways that transcend the matches themselves.
What's your wrestling soundtrack? Join the conversation by sharing your top 10 theme songs of all time. Your list might spark debates as passionate as ours!
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Speaker 2:It's the masako it's your boy swag switch in the building. Forgive me if I sound a little stuffy, because uh, uh, nature is nature and outside and it's got me all congested it's not even that man.
Speaker 1:The wonderful world that is wrestling this week is what's getting me all stuffed up? It's getting me all uh, either one or two things. It's sad, it's excited, but we got to talk about it, man. We got to talk about a couple of things and I think the most pressing topic for this week we can go right into. We're just gonna go right into it, guys. We're gonna write to it. These releases, the unfortunate spring cleaning, the black friday, whatever everybody's been calling on the russell, yeah, the black, they call it black friday, yeah damn the black friday, the wedding, the red wedding, like geez.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's, that's what we, that's how we feel, huh it's unfortunate, but yes, it is the thing that after mania, they call it the black friday, where a lot of releases happen at the end of the weekend. Some people who are very secure, feeling like they're good in their position, and all of a sudden you're like, oh, actually you're gone and it's. It's very unfortunate. These are people who have, these are their jobs, these are their livelihoods, this is the dream opportunity they've always wanted and suddenly it is removed from them. Why, we don't know. It can be a couple of things. As they always say budget cuts, they always either say it's um, uh, what other nonsense is it? Either they have no direction for them or something of that nature. I feel like you got something to say to that go ahead well, it's not even like in my mind.
Speaker 2:I'm like specifically with the people who were picked and I would even honestly, I could easily just say like all of them. As far as the ones that were picked, I wouldn't say budget cuts, I would more so say the fact like they look at their sheets and are like wait, we paying them that much?
Speaker 1:Or contracts. That's what I was going to say. Sometimes they look at contracts and be like wait what we're doing, this and stuff like that. I mean the interesting part about this Well, not interesting, excuse me. The unfortunate part about this is the fact that it's not just wrestlers, it's not just the superstars. There were also people behind the scenes who were also let go as well. We wanted to start this off as the normally, like we say the wonderful week of west wrestling and what kind of goes on. The wonderful week of west, the wonderful week of westling. The wonderful week of west link, I can't even fucking do two w's at the same time. The wonderful week of wrestling. I can't even fucking do two w's at the same time. The wonderful week of wrestling. We normally would do that, but not today, unfortunately.
Speaker 1:Uh, we have to start off with the unfortunate oh friday, but just talk about some of the people who was released. Uh, one of them that was shocking immediately was braun strowman okay, um, um, braun Strowman being one. Dakota Kai, uh. Shayna Baszler. Caden Carter, uh, katana, uh chance, uh, some other people is also Gigi uh Dolan. Uh, we have Riley, which was rising. That too, cause she's technically in a team right now, or a faction and everything. Uh, that too, because she's technically in a team right now, or a faction and everything. Uh, riley osborne. Eddie uh thrope or thorpe, I can't. Yeah, I think I mispronounced. I do apologize. Uh, jakara jackson, um gallus, which jakara.
Speaker 2:That surprised the heck out of me as well. Like, yeah, that one was like the really because like, like, literally, her and lash legend a a legitimately decent. They were just on tna. Yeah, they just broke the faction up like and everything well, I mean which is actually crazy that like literally NXT, they all came together. It was all like hey, you know we've been ever since you've been gone, because Homie came back. What's his name? Oh, my goodness, wow.
Speaker 1:Why am I blanking on his name? Oh, robbie, robbie E.
Speaker 2:No, the other one, because he just took the, the, the cup from um kazarian. No, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1:Nxt brother nxt oh okay, you said you mentioned tna and then I was like, wait, whoa, so let's do sure all right, cool, no, no, no.
Speaker 2:Um, for some reason I'm blanking on his name right now, but, um, he was the guy who literally started metaphor, and so oh, okay yeah, it's like he came back and he actually took the belt, you know, from uh pillman's son, and then, after he took it, like you know, the whole group metaphor they kind of came together and was like, you know, hey, you know, it's good to see that you're back and you got the cup again and everything. But you know, since you've been gone, we've been kind of doing our own thing and you know, like, as cool as metaphor has been, you know, I think it's time for us to go and spread our wings and do our own thing for a bit. And it was like, okay, so they had their last little time together and they spread off, and then Jakarik actually knife blocked, like God Damn, yeah. Yeah, it almost doesn't make sense to me, considering the fact that her and Last Legend they've been constantly being used and literally last weekend they was in TNA and they was fighting for the TNA Knockouts tag team titles.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they were just in literally that pay-per-view.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they was literally in the pay-per-view. The metaphor breaks up on Tuesday and Jakara's packing her bags on Friday. Yeah, they was literally in the pay-per-view.
Speaker 1:The metaphor breaks up on Tuesday and Jakara's packing her bags on Friday and that's the thing, like I was saying before, the unfortunate fact that is the Black Friday. It's like, hey, you're going into the weekend, you think you're good and all of a sudden, boom, you get hit with it. Also, there's two, potentially three other people that I didn't get a chance to mention and I do apologize for butchering them.
Speaker 1:or Minshaw, or Minshaw um not sure who that is, and then I could be just butchering his name. I do apologize. And then there's a Javier Javier Benal, javier Benal, javier Benal, javier Benal, something like that. It's kind of like they're TNA people.
Speaker 2:Not TNA.
Speaker 1:NXT. They are NXT people, the biggest one. That it's not confirmed, though, but they're saying it.
Speaker 2:By the way, the name who I couldn't remember, because when you was butchering that other guy's name, noam Dar he was the name who I couldn't remember, because when you was butchering that other guy's name, noam Dar, he was the one who just got the cup from.
Speaker 1:Lexus. Oh yeah, noam, dar, yeah, okay, you know what. Okay, noam Dar, alright. Well, that and the big one. He's still there, y'all yeah he's still there Noam's fine but the one that we don't know is completely good is Shinsuke Nakamura, which that's?
Speaker 2:I get it, which makes me really sad because, especially considering the fact that he just got done having a US title run. But then it's like after LA Knight beat him, he went dark and then you don't hear from.
Speaker 1:I was really loving this new persona too, like because you know me and samurai culture. I'm like fuck yeah, I'm here for it.
Speaker 2:Oh, I feel, and and I don't know why wwe does this, but there's a part of me that feels that because so whenever they have shinsuke you know talking or doing anything, he's always talking in you know, his native language, kind of thing, which I mean I guess it's not a big deal. It it should not be a big deal, because it's fine if he only talks in his native language. But I feel like when they only make them do that, it's almost as if there's like this, there's almost like a situation where they're kind of limiting them to a certain degree, cause it's like Shinsuke he can, he speaks really good English.
Speaker 3:Like, just like Eosukai he speaks perfectly decent English.
Speaker 2:But it's like it's like it's almost as if like cause I know Eos, with the way that Eos guy talks, like from what I hear from other people I have never spoken to her directly myself but I have I have friends who have you have and it's like I don't think she speaks that broken.
Speaker 1:English Like it's. It's not that bad, but it's more so an accent.
Speaker 2:It's more so like you could tell her native tongue is yeah which is perfectly fine, but it's like. But when you make them kind of like speak as if, like you know, like english is their third language type situation, like I feel like to me it gets annoying when I see it or when I hear it, and then it's like, to a certain degree it almost makes it seem as if, like you're, it's almost like you're purposely like crutching them when it comes to promos or something and then, like those, one of those deals where it's like I guess I, maybe I just need to get with the times and no no, I agree, I agree, but there's a part of me that feels like it's because, too, with the rawness of how they speak in their native language, it comes off stronger.
Speaker 1:The emotion is there a little bit better, kind of like. How would people feel, like, with dub and sub? I kind of feel like it was that that I enjoy when EO's doing it in her native language, because when she speaks it she's going to speak it with a tone that matches the aggression rather than with the accent, so some people may throw them off. Is she being serious here or something like that. I don't know what their direction is, but I truly enjoy them doing it in their native language. Not just the barrier put them, but it's just. When Io did it about like hey, I'm the champion, I felt it when she spoke in her native language. Compared to if she tried to do it in English, I didn't feel like it would have came across to me the same way.
Speaker 2:I guess that's fair. So for, alright, I guess that's fair. So for that case, I guess that makes sense Because, like I know, with Shinsuke, I feel as if that to me I feel almost as if, like it's kind of like set him back for the American audience. Therefore, you know, and, but I will say, if he's on the chopping block, if he does get cut, like kudos to him for riding this way. For as long as nine years, homie's been just chilling, like when he first came. It's always as if, like shinsuke did the thing where he first came. He's all like, yeah, I'm trying to do this and do this. Then when he realized, oh, I guess I'm not going to really get anywhere, well, at least I'm getting paid, and he's been getting paid and getting paid.
Speaker 1:It was more. So. He kind of realized that the strong style was a wear and tear on his body. He noticed that and that was kind of the driving force of why he went to WWE, because the wrestling style compared to New Japan is completely different. In the States, japan, you're constantly doing big move shit Like the video game conversation. We had a couple episodes Like the video game conversation. We had a couple episodes like the video game stuff, whereas with wwe, like he could, he could turn it on every once in a blue moon, but he doesn't have to do it in every match and that's new japan every night. So I could see, as in a judgment call for his body to be like man. I could, I could pop it out every once in a blue moon, but can I just not do it every day, please, thank you. And that's he's a little bit in. Honestly, I don't think he's that. Oh, I think he's maybe in his 40s I'm not going to his 50s maybe very certain yeah.
Speaker 1:So I feel like it. It was a good call. Especially he's been with the company almost nine to ten years. It wasn't a bad call, you know he's he's kind of like with okada. Okada was like I kind of did everything I needed to do in new japan.
Speaker 1:And let me see, you know and a lot of people often get really frustrated with a wrestler, I know I've done it myself too when I hear this, when I hear the topic of I have done everything I need to do here, I will go venture out and see what I could do elsewhere, other match opportunities etc. Etc. Um, I I kind of have a crossed opinion on that. Like depending on who it is it's like. But no, like this place is you and you leaving to me, like it kind of just cuts off everything you've done and the whatever you do elsewhere, it's gonna be automatically like well, he didn't do that shit here, he's not doing that shit here. Like I don't know if you ever heard the topic of Kenny Omega after he left New Japan, compared to how he is in AEW. There's always been that big topic oh, absolutely listen, like granted I.
Speaker 2:I only really know kenny omega from what he has done here, because I've never was a big new japan watcher, mostly just because I was too lazy to go look for it.
Speaker 2:But like I've seen and I have seen and I've heard about his new japan stuff and in comparison he's chilling. He is so chilling right now and it's like, but at the same time, like he probably at this point does not want to to do all that New Japan stuff that he did and it's one of those things people like Ricochet and Will Ospreay okay, they're so indie New Japan to the point where they don't know how to cut it off. You know what I'm saying. And it feels weird when to cut it off. You know what I'm saying. And it feels weird when they cut it off and it makes them feel as if they're not being their authentic self, which is, to me, the reasons why Ricochet only got Intercontinental title and US title, famous in WWE, because he's born to fly. He does not know how to just do it sometimes. He either does it all the time or he doesn't do it.
Speaker 1:I feel like a part of that is because WWE also knows. If they put you in a position or to say, hey, can you do this spot? A producer might say hey, can you do this or whatever, because they often do ask that Like, hey, could you guys do this spot or whatever. Or sometimes the wrestler may say hey, how about we do this? It kind of goes hand in hand you know your strengths and you know what you can do. But then if you overdo it, as Dolph even said to himself, he kind of was put into a position that he began. He became the guy who, okay, do your finish on me and I'm gonna make it look like it's the best damn finish ever.
Speaker 2:And that cursed him, you know that, yeah, that's true, that make sense, but I also feel that with him, with Ricochet, it's the fact, like because he has that over his head, but then there's also the fact that Ricochet is known for doing that stuff.
Speaker 1:I mean his name is Ricochet.
Speaker 2:yeah, I mean, his name is Ricochet yeah, and then for Ricochet to go there and not be doing that kind of stuff all the time also was probably playing against him, because WWE they're like, yeah, that's cool that you could do that, but we only really want you to do that on like PLEs and stuff. We don't need you doing that at every house show and on every TV show because we want to preserve you and use you for as long as possible while you're out there burning the candle on both ends, trying to do this and that all the way constantly. So it's like because they have a cap on him, it's like he can only do so much right now Exactly, which is why, as him being an AEW, he's everywhere.
Speaker 2:Doing what his name says Ricochet, and it's probably the reason why our local Billy Goat will probably stay over that way, because he's not going to not do it Every single time. We won't see the Billy Goat in WWE till 10 years from now. That's crazy.
Speaker 1:Yo, I'm actually able to chill now, yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, he's all like. You know what I've done? All that fun. I'll get my WrestleMania now.
Speaker 1:But to get back into this list of people who are let go. First off, we can go. Let's just do like a 10 words or less. You know maybe where you want to see or where you think they should do next, or just where you want to see him go. I'm going to say with Braun Strowman, I feel he's TNA bound. If he's doing anything, he'd be TNA bound. If he's doing anything, he'd be TNA bound. If you're thinking of any promotion, tna, because he's no good at AEW.
Speaker 2:I need Braun to go home, rest up, heal up, find his inner monster come back home. I don't see him anywhere else.
Speaker 1:You got a point, but it's the second time and for anybody to. The first time he left, they called him back right. So whether or not he has to make himself I irrelevant to them or make him feel like yo, we need to buy him back so the whole rest up, strengthen up, become the monster again. I I will agree he could do that and then you know, maybe he still has to do some booking. So that way wwe can see okay, maybe he's improved in certain areas and maybe see value in bringing him back for a certain storyline. But the big SOB is it's not cut. I need my monster back. You are absolutely right, I need.
Speaker 1:I'm not finished with you yet monster give me that brawn again yes, give me that brawn, I will, I will pay money for that brawn all right, I don't want this.
Speaker 2:I don't want this.
Speaker 1:Chugga, chugga, chugga, chugga chugga, chugga, chugga chugga I do find that is the dumbest spot, that is the dumb like to be like okay, let me run through around the ring okay I don't, I don't want it.
Speaker 2:If anything, I need him to stop doing it, because Breaker does it better.
Speaker 1:Literally Breaker, does it ten times better. Ten times better, With more speed, more velocity, more oomph.
Speaker 2:It's a good spot.
Speaker 1:It's a good spot where you got multiple guys outside because it's like boom, boom, boom, but just one person. Multiple guys outside because it's like boom, boom, boom, but just one person. No, no, no.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's not. I need him to find his inner monster among men again, because this big SOB, like, let me put it this way, this big SOB is on his way to being big showed. You know what I'm saying? Ooh, that's a hard pill to swallow and I don't want that for Braun. Okay.
Speaker 3:Let it be known.
Speaker 2:I don't want that.
Speaker 1:That's a boiler room to me. To me, that's a boiler room. That that's a boiler room to me. To me, that's a boiler room. Bro, that's a boiler room topic. If I've never where is? Instead of the heel turns, it's releases. I don't know.
Speaker 2:Not even, not even that, just like you know he, but or or maybe, if if that's the case, it's either he. I need him to do this. I need him to either go full monster or pull forward into who he really is, because in all realness he's a big goofy man. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:I don't need him to be a great colleague or somebody calling him up. No, I don't need that shit. But that's what he?
Speaker 2:is His actual personality. I don't know Braun Strowman's real name, but what Mr Braun Strowman truly is. He is a frat boy who will go out and wear hot pink pants, shirtless, with a fucking bow tie, with a beer in his hand, goofing off singing we Are the Champions. That's the kind of person he is.
Speaker 1:But here is the thing, though you brought up the monster among men. Do you see that transition in your brain now? Like he used to be not saying that he can't do it, but it's just like that to bro remember that one, like remember that one guy?
Speaker 2:I think he actually no, no, no, no. He has a different dude who he had as his partner, but like Braun Strowman, like in IRL, he's like the, you know, like the fucking. He's the fucking surfer dude. You know what I'm saying. Like he's, he is a dude, okay, and so I either need him to go full dude or go full monster, because he's treading the line right now with the whole. You know he's one big sob and this thing the other, but you know he'll still goof off and do these fun things and all this stuff.
Speaker 1:That's why he lost to Jacob Fatu right there.
Speaker 3:I'm saying it right now.
Speaker 1:Listen.
Speaker 2:Jacob Fatu is a true monster. He is what he used to be, I mean. I mean so like that's, that's where, that's where Jacob's at. Jacob knows who he is. All gas, no brakes. Get in where you fit in. You know what I'm saying? Braun, over here he's he's trying to tread a particular line where he's he is a bro, but like he's got. He is a bro but like he's got. So he, he is a bro with some monster. Um, uh, what's the word I'm looking for?
Speaker 3:Uh, some, uh, yeah.
Speaker 2:For lack of better words. Yeah, you know, he is a bro with some, with some, uh, with monster intentions.
Speaker 1:He's that guy where in the anime, like okay, I'm fun and whatever.
Speaker 2:But if you cross it it can come out correct that's where he's at, but we want him to be one or the other. I need him to just completely cross stay crossed. You know what I'm saying so like it hurts me to know that he's gonna be gone, but find yourself, brother dakota kai.
Speaker 1:Um, you know, damage control never technically destroyed itself. I mean, bailey wasn't in it and you know, the kabuki warriors haven't been back in a while, so dakota kai has been floating for a minute.
Speaker 2:Oscar's been gone because I think he was hurt and so and as well as Kairi she was hurt too, and so I mean, but with Dakota Kai kind of being gone, that's going to kind of sort of bang, bang the damage control, because Bailey she exit herself or she was actually kicked out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she was kicked out of the reveal and so it was like. But my problem with Dakota Kai is the fact that like and the boys in the chat will always say it and they'll back me up on it but like she is too easy to break 's, she's got hollow she gets injured.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she gets injured a lot yeah like she's got hollow bones, like she literally ended up like wasn't it the other? Like another week or two, where she had a match and then, like she was supposed to have another and she and it was, it was said that she got pulled off the match or pulled off the show because she was hurt or something.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, something like that. Yeah, I mean, I mean, in her nxt run she had a lot of injuries, like a lot. I remember there was one time she was gone for like almost a year, like almost the level of kenta, like it's literally on that level of kenta, being constantly injured. Your time is now and your, your, your glow, the shine. It is you we're here for. Injured gone a year, oh, oh, you're back. Okay, cool. Injured gone almost another year, oh, you're back. Yeah, every time you keep coming back you get injured. I'm not really hyped for it anymore, and that that ship has sailed. And the same thing kind of goes for Dakota Kai.
Speaker 2:Because I love you so, goddamn damn God.
Speaker 1:Trust me, I was a big fan of Kenta and to look back at his previous wrestling bro, you gotta see his matches in NOAH. Oh my God, some of the stuff he was doing there is insane. But, to say the least, dakota Kai, where do you see her going?
Speaker 2:Home. Damn, to say the least. Dakota Kai, where do you see her going? Oh damn, I it's really weird to see, especially since she was planted, watered, soiled, grew out the pot, placed into the outside area. Planted, watered, soiled, grew out the pot, placed into the outside area to get real sunlight. She was fully grown in WWE. So was Dolph Dolph, wasn't.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he was Remember, he's Spirit Squad and everything.
Speaker 2:Well, no, so there's a difference in between. He went to ww and then he was grown don't, wasn't grown in the in the performance center okay, you mean like that yeah, dakota kai.
Speaker 2:She came from like though. She was seed, planted, grown, went through the NXT, uprooted from the NXT pot planted outside, was on Raw WWE. You know she's been there for it. She grew there, and so it's like seeing her anywhere else is just weird. But, like I mean, I think that the real thing is the fact, like I don't care to see her anywhere else. That's the problem.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I know, I know. And you was just saying Dakota Kai means Dakota Kai, listen, man Dude. And you was just saying Dakota Kai means Dakota Kai.
Speaker 2:What happened? Listen, man. She was trying and while she was there I was rooting for her to get somewhere. She came real close and then her brittle bones got the best of her and then they was like I feel as if her last chance was that Eric Cottnell title run when she was getting real close to winning the IC belt. But then it was like it was either during it or just after it. She got hurt and she was pulled from a couple of shows and I'm just like and you see why I like him with meat on the bone, maybe, maybe, maybe the same for you, like maybe, oh, oh, oh, ah, maybe it's a valet, maybe a valet, would you?
Speaker 1:would you not even say that?
Speaker 2:that's what she's been for, like the last five years, god man come on, swag listen this hurts me. This hurts me the same, but it's just like I got nothing left. I got nothing left for you girl?
Speaker 1:no, oh my god, alright, well, I got nothing left for you Swag, no, oh, my God. All right. Well, I would say, if she was going somewhere, I feel like stardom. I don't even watch stardom, stardom, stardom will probably be what I'm going to say. I don't watch it actively enough to know the roster, but I feel like she would fit stardom, like that aesthetic that is stardom and their wrestlers, you know, not saying they all have brittle bones, but just like the aesthetic that dakota kai is as a wrestler and the wrestling style that dakota kai is familiar with. Stardom would be really a. Probably going to tna would be stupid. You know that roster, while it is good, it just I wouldn't want to see her in a tna ring.
Speaker 2:Okay, I just I just wouldn't want it, just like how you said I, I just wouldn't want to see it yeah, like because it's one of those things where and and maybe I'm just closed-minded, but, but I just feel like for her and then with what these other promotions I see got going on right, like maybe New Japan, you know.
Speaker 3:Well stardom is somewhat connected to New Japan. Yeah, okay, got it got it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, maybe there because in AEW aw there's not enough tv time for her and I wouldn't want to see her going against people like tony storm. Anyway, I don't feel like because, because they would, because, as it's presented as of right now, as as how it's been presented, she would get, she would get thrashed, she would get broken again.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh man god, oh my god, oh my god listen, she has been broken so many times, like her whole day, like her whole run with damage control. She was just the cheerleader on the side of the ring and she was so broken that wrestlers legitimately could not touch her because of how broken she was. And so when everyone would get jumped in damage control, she's the only one standing because she was so broken it didn't make sense to touch her Slash. They couldn't because she just was absolutely not cleared to be in the ring, and so it's just like Stardom.
Speaker 1:Stardom-ound is Dakota Kai. I would hope she would go to Stardom. If I'm going to see her anywhere, definitely not in AEW, definitely not in TNA. It's either WWE or Stardom. That's the only thing I could see her as. So Shayna Baszler man, this one hit hard for me because I'm a big Shayna Baszler fan. Um, send her a watch, send her a winner. Send her a winner to Stardom. Yeah, send her to Stardom Hell. No, she's great in GCW.
Speaker 3:She's great in GCW.
Speaker 1:Alright, gcw, either GCW or, if she does go to AEW, she would be the monster that would dethrone Either she I would feel she would be the monster that would dethrone either she I would feel like she would be the monster that would dethrone either Bane. Whenever she gets the title from Tony, I feel like obviously they're pushing Bane to be the next champion. But Shayna Baszler style to me fits either GCW or AEW, because AEW has already got crazy matches and crazy stipulation kind of stuff and GCW already fits that. But because she's such a raw fighter actually and I hate, if they did this, I would hate it actually I pray they don't do this she might go to the Blackpool club with Jon Moxley, because that's the whole team's aesthetic. The whole team's aesthetic is Shayna Baszler. In a nutshell, it's literally her. And that's why I'm like, if they did it, please don't, don't get put in there. You would fit there, but don't like. Don't, don't get put in there, but but you would fit there, but don't like yeah, I see it but, I mean so personally.
Speaker 2:I mean BS aside because I was being facetious and in need, but like. I would actually see Shayna being facetious and mean, but um, like, uh, I would actually see Shayna Baszler going really far on TNA.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, she'll fucking. If she goes there, she's getting the title immediately Like put that bitch on her and just let her go.
Speaker 2:Because, when it comes to female wrestling, tna's females don't miss they have not missed Knockouts, they continue to not miss. Tna knockouts are. Tna knockouts is where women's wrestling has always been and has never left. Okay, like WWE could say they have their female Renaissance, but where the the women in WWE was fighting for their freedoms, uh, tna females was living free, like they lived in Denmark. You know what I'm saying. Like, like they was just out here doing it. They was. They was doing it before. You know they was. They was doing it when divas was still a thing. You know what I'm saying. Now, now that divas are gone, they've just been doing it even more kind of like. So it's like I think if she went to tna, honestly, I could see her going to tna and then proven her worth and then coming back to WWE as the woman she's always been and should have continued to be on the main roster.
Speaker 1:I'm so mad that we didn't get that run. I was so mad we didn't get that run. When they brought her from NXT to the main roster, it was like they they unnecessarily diminished her it was like they got it in the beginning from the elimination chamber and then the uh, the survivor series match. It was like, oh, oh, we're getting it, oh, we're getting it, yes, we're getting it.
Speaker 2:And then in, in In her defense of being there. She was still there during a time when we were still trying to understand gay women's wrestling.
Speaker 1:No, no, it was the man. The man became that thing, or Becky Lynch, because during that era is when she got hit.
Speaker 1:she are you saying are you saying becky lynch killed shana baszler's, uh push yes, I will say I will stand on that, because whenever becky lynch became that person, you can't have two people up there. It's not like well, not saying that shana baser could have went to maybe raw or whatever opposite opposition of the show was, but it was just like wwe can't have more than one woman who's like boom for some reason because, yeah, we got uh bianca bella, we know she's the shit. We got uh rhea ripley, we know she's the shit, but they normally ever just make it one like it's normally boom, this is the one. And I feel like whenever Rhea Ripley became champion, boom, she was the one. Whenever Bianca Belair was champion, boom, she was the number one woman that were're pushing as that division compared to with the men. There are so many of them that boom, this is the guy that makes I also.
Speaker 2:I can possibly agree that, like the, that Becky Lynch probably stomped her fire out a little bit, because you also have Ronda Rousey there at the same time with Charlotte Flair.
Speaker 2:No, and to that fact, because that Ronda Rousey and Shannon Baszler literally built from the exact same cloth and whatnot. I know I have come to learn and understand that Ronda Rousey was actually not supposed to be a success. She became a success in her own right, but like nothing was actually going for her. Like I've, I've come to learn and understand that this man actually knew fuck about the whole Ronda Rousey thing. As a matter of fact, it was Triple H and Triple H alone who was pushing to make Ronda Rousey thing. As a matter of fact, it was Triple H and Triple H alone who was pushing to make Ronda Rousey like what she ended up being, which is why, whenever you see Ronda Rousey talk about wrestling, she'll take the biggest dump on it, but she will always make sure she makes it clear I love Hunter.
Speaker 2:Hunter is the best.
Speaker 1:He is the greatest thing since sliced bread, but fuck wrestling yeah, because she wanted to be booked a certain way, and he knew how to book her well, not just that, but she wanted to be booked certain way.
Speaker 2:He didn't know how to book her and and and and and she but and and for, and it came from women. Women were never given the amount of time to be successful in that particular way, kind of thing. Like she talks a lot about how you know, like what was it? I think she was. I forgot who specifically she was going on. I think she was actually commenting about Logan Paul it's all like yeah.
Speaker 2:Logan Paul. He can have fantastically cool and amazing matches Because on the back end he's actually training very, very hard and going over step by step by step by step by step to make sure he knows what he needs to do for his matches. And she's like, when I was doing it, I didn't get a chance to talk to anybody about my matches. It was just like, hey, we're going to do this, maybe I would get like 10, 15, if I'm even lucky, 30 minutes tops to explain a match and then, after it be explained, right as we're about to go out there, it's like, oh, hey, you know that stuff that you work so hard to try and figure out and get talked about. Yeah, we actually just changed that, so you're going to do this now. Okay, bye-bye, and it was like ass and so, yeah, that's her bit when it comes to that.
Speaker 2:But going back to shana, it's like she, you know she, she was kind of sort of in that group and she's kind of work and she kind of works similar. If, honestly, she's better than ronda rousey when it comes to wrestling way back and which is not ronda rousey's fault, considering the fact that both of them came from MMA and then Shayna Baszler went MMA to becoming a wrestler. The difference between Ronda Rousey and Shayna Baszler is that Shayna Baszler, when she got done, she went to NXT in the Performance Center. Ronda Rousey did not.
Speaker 1:Main roster.
Speaker 2:She went straight to main roster. She got the Kurt Angle treatment, where Kurt Angle learned how to wrestle On the go. He was actively learning how to wrestle right before her eyes. That was also ronda rousey, and so but I feel, because shana baszler is as good as she is and and the fact that she did come in during that time when the man was manning, it's like that I I can easily agree that stomped her fire out so, so bad that she's been nothing but smolders ever since. Ooh, it's like, because it's like, and then because then they put her in this tag team and it was like man, I remember they kept calling it the lesbians.
Speaker 1:That was crazy.
Speaker 2:Because they were were, except one. I know only one of them one. She's bi. I mean regardless, you know. I'm sure they all like a little cat from time to time, regardless, but like from time to time they did not need to. They did not need to be a tag team, okay.
Speaker 1:I feel like Zoe Stark and Zayna Shayna Baszler would have been ideal, you know.
Speaker 2:But the problem, is when it comes to them being a tag team, because those two are so like physical roughneck badass girls kind of thing compared it's. It's the whole situation where it's all like those two girls. I'm sure if you put all the wwe divas that were there at the time in one room, her and Shayna Baszler is beating everybody in IRL.
Speaker 1:And that's and that's another thing about wrestling. Sometimes that really hurts certain wrestlers. Freak, who was the conversation? Oh God, I literally was just having this moment of like. There are certain people that they book. It's like in irl this person should be knocking you the f out like he should be fucking you up so royally, but you get booked like trash every time, and so now it's a point where anything you do is it's not believable and that's why, yeah, yep, yep, shayna Baszler.
Speaker 3:Yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 2:That's Shayna Baszler, and you can even throw in her tag team partner. Like both of them, zoe, they are two girls who put them in a cage with anybody. They're beating them bloody.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 2:But put them in a wrestling ring, because of how, because of the presentation that they have. It's like it's hard. It's hard for them to take a loss and it not hurt their image. It's like the authors of pain. There's a reason why.
Speaker 1:There you go. That's who it was. That's who it was. That's who it was, because I was literally going through my list of theme songs and I was like man, what. They had. Such a good theme. You have fucking what's his name as your fucking Paul. You have him as your manager, like what? Why is this not like one of the most dominant teams in the roster oh wait, the roster? They're too strong, they're too dominant. There's no way they should be losing.
Speaker 2:It's actually the Undertaker and Kane Brothers of Destruction situation. There's a reason why they were only a tag team for so long, there's a reason why they only had the belts for so long and there's a reason why they only had the belts for so little time. Because you put the belts on the Brothers of Destruction, who realistically is beating the Undertaker and his little brother, little big brother K? Who's actually beating them? 3d how? By cheating? Yes, I get it sure. That's the only way you're beating the brothers of destruction by the 3Ds.
Speaker 1:by no, no even with that, the 3D was one of the most protected tag team moves in that era. If they hit it, it was done.
Speaker 2:See, that's another argument for a different time.
Speaker 1:You're right, you're right, you're right, you're right. I'm just saying to me, if anybody, if we were on paper, if it would happen, it would only be the Dudley boys and that era, when they were present, it could have been Edge and Christian, it could have been Hardee's. There was nobody else. That, if on paper, if you put them in a match and it made sense, it had to be the Dudley boys, the only one, and I think the Dudley boys were the only ones who did do it.
Speaker 2:I don't think they've ever beat them for the belts and even then, the one time that I'm currently recalling, when the Dudley Boys and the Brothers of Destruction, like they ever, fought each other, they came out to the ring and attacked them with chairs. To start, everything off.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was never clean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it's like so, but like so, but like. But to that bit though, it's like with the authors of pain, they kind of fell into that same situation and and what the problem they ended up doing was the fact that they would let them lose way too prematurely, way premature. They would let the authors of pain lose to somebody like I, like I don't I actually can't recall the time. I think the only time I've ever seen them like lose where one of the authors of pain were pinned, I think, was to bobby lashley, because that was when bobby lashley's group was going against all of them with Karrion and stuff like that. But it's like the but yeah, they fall into that category where they're just like too devastatingly bad ass and strong to the point where they will fight and they'll lose to like pretty deadly. And then it's just like why do I, why should I care about the Office of Pain?
Speaker 1:I forgot who beat him.
Speaker 2:Okay, the Brothers in Destruction lost to Stone Cold and Triple H which that makes sense yes, that makes sense, because those are two top guys and if you look up who beat Office of Pain not two top guys, I'll tell you that, because DIY was one time. And then when you look at DIY and you look at the Office of Pain, tell me, how does that make?
Speaker 1:sense yeah, they don't.
Speaker 2:And so it's like I think it was a ladder match they wanted in too, and so it's like it's. It's one of those deals where, when they get people like that, it's like they, you know they'll push them as like these, these, these badasses. But then you know, then we have shana baszler. Lose this someone that's like I can't think of someone off the top. Funny enough, I was about to say. But then we have I was I do your. I was trying. I was trying not to say that.
Speaker 3:I knew you was going there.
Speaker 2:But realistically though, if you look at Dakota Kai and you look at Shayna Baszler, like why is Dakota Kai going over? However I actually don't think Dakota Kai has actually ever beaten Shayna Baszler. I'm just saying it's just that kind of situation, yeah oh, no, no, no, that exactly, but I'm just like recalling, I'm like I actually don't think, cause they fought each other and Shayna Baszler beat the brakes off of Dakota Kai, if my memory persists, like the brakes break it up, break it up, break it up but um oh yeah, outside of that outside of that, uh, we have some of those individuals who unfortunately left and you know where they go next, know.
Speaker 1:we just hope that there's some really good opportunities for them in the future.
Speaker 2:Just really hope so, oh listen, I feel as if like because when you get let go, it's like it's like working. I mean, they are not even it's like working. They work for the best business in the world. So it's like once they're free, anybody will take them. It's really just up to them. At that point of where do they want to go? Because, especially Shayna Baszler and, honestly, especially with Dakota Kai like someone's going wow.
Speaker 1:The way you were just talking about her and all of a sudden you're like, oh yeah, people. No, they probably might even see them brittle bones and be like nah.
Speaker 2:I mean they might. To be honest, she's been injured so god damn much but like. But she has a credibility to her, considering the fact that she's been in wwe for that long. There is something besides her brittle bones that she has to contribute to anywhere and everywhere she could possibly go to, and so, yeah, maybe she should just be somebody's beautiful valet. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:She is definitely beautiful.
Speaker 2:Definitely we jump off and do a hurricane ride with somebody and keep it pushing.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:A quick intergender match or something like that, so that she does not hurt herself anymore.
Speaker 1:But outside of that. I want to get now into the real topic of the day, not saying that the other one isn't as important, but the real one that I've been spending days, if not an entire week, trying to find this list, and I know you've been deep diving into your podcast, you've been deep diving into the music that you've been listening to, but man, I feel as if this took this was harder for you than it was for me I don't know, man, you were you in my process.
Speaker 2:I don't know like with the way that. So how are we going to do it, do we? Should we start with our number 10 and then go up?
Speaker 1:So I want you to just give me your 10 in general, the ranking. Are you going off a rank? Because I was going to make you rank it at the end.
Speaker 3:Oh they're already ranked buddy, oh shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, fam, yeah, fam.
Speaker 3:I got it.
Speaker 2:I got it. It's all right here. It's all right here.
Speaker 1:I got it so here, and this is how I was able to do it.
Speaker 2:I'll explain to you the process. Okay, okay, go for it so.
Speaker 3:I started off.
Speaker 1:Before we do that, so that way the audience understands what we're doing here. If you weren't here, in the last episode I challenged swag to give me his top 10 wrestling theme songs of all time. That's from any promotion, whatever you watched, wherever, give me your top 10 theme songs. That is the base of this topic right now and now I want you to give me your process of how did you get this top 10?
Speaker 2:So here's how it was, and I can even tell you the ones I specifically started with, because I first just said what are three theme songs that came to mind. First one Cody Rose's Kingdom, randy Orton's Voices and John Cena's Time Is Now right orton's voices and john cena's time is now right and so I put those on. I put those three to start the list and then I just started listening to theme songs and so I would listen to a theme song. So, let's say, the mrs theme song comes on, I'm listening, listening to it.
Speaker 2:I'm like do I like the Miz's theme song more than I like John Cena? Do I like it more than I like Cody Rhodes' theme song? Do I like it more than Randy Orton's? And if I do, then it goes on top, and if I don't, it will fall somewhere in between there on top, and if I don't, it will fall somewhere in between there. And that's what I did for probably a grand total of I would say, maybe not consecutively, but probably about a good like 19, 20 hours. I was listening to wrestling theme songs it has been a lot one song after another, after another, and so I have my list.
Speaker 2:Now let it be known. I'll I'll even not even showing, but it's like the list is long. Okay, that's how long I had been doing. Right, there are songs I did not write down because near the near, like hour 17 and 18, I'll listen to a song and then I will look at this long list and I'm just like it's not better than any of these ones that I have at the top. So I'm not even going to bother writing it down, or I'll think I'm like, oh, this one might be, but then I'll like put it in. I'm like, nope, it didn't get high enough. And so Our top 10. And this is order from number one to number 10.
Speaker 1:Wait, so it's 10, the highest, or one the highest?
Speaker 2:number one is the highest.
Speaker 1:They go from 10 to one.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Go 10.
Speaker 2:So, because we're going from 10 to one, right To just give the quick shout-outs to numbers 11, 12, 13, and I'll even say 4.
Speaker 1:Leave the honorable mentions to at the whenever you get to 1, leave the honorable mentions from when you're about to give 1. Because this is going to be like a true list on YouTube and stuff like that. They normally go from 10 to 1, and when you get to 1 you do the honorable mentions.
Speaker 2:Got it Alright. So in that case, number 1, tess's theme song.
Speaker 1:That's number 10, right yeah?
Speaker 2:number 10. Okay so which version though. The one that is called. This Is A Test.
Speaker 1:Is that the WrestleMania 2001?
Speaker 2:Yes, aka Test is original.
Speaker 1:Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, because the WrestleMania 2001 was the really weird audio one. And then there's the test. No, not that one, the other one's for me, the 2000 one. I like that one better, but go ahead.
Speaker 2:But that's number 10.
Speaker 1:Okay, do you have a? Reason why for number 10 though?
Speaker 2:A reason why that one is number 10 or a reason why I like that song so much? Reason why you like that song yeah because I like that song mostly, just because, and especially considering the songs that it beat it. It just hits. It just hits right it just hits right, like I actually almost don't remember the version of the test theme song that you're talking about.
Speaker 3:This one has always been the one for me. It's the same, go ahead.
Speaker 2:It's not Whatever one was on WrestleMania 10,000, 2000,. I'm not recalling it. But if you type in test and you type in, this is a test, yeah, because that's what it's called on Spotify at least. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's, that's that, so that's the version that I prefer, because he does have another version which was after this like three versions, which was after this, which was after this, and that one wasn't good at all to me.
Speaker 2:I mean, it was okay, funny enough. That's actually not even the one that I'm talking about. Oh, there is another one that he has that I'm trying to figure out. It was after the one that I like, though, and because he did have multiple theme songs. Another thing that I did do was, whenever I came to a particular wrestler which actually this is very relevant for my number 9 when it came to a certain wrestler and they had a theme song, but they had maybe, maybe four or five versions of it that I did really, really like I had to do a little mini list to figure out which one that I liked the best. So any wrestler who you hear, who you know, had several different theme songs. I picked my favorite, one of their several different theme songs.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay.
Speaker 2:And so, going into number nine, um, actually it's funny that I said that, because I actually kind of broke the rules just a little bit, only because it was way too hard for me to pick which one of these I liked. But Christian, number nine is Christian. I like his Christian Cage theme song, which is the one from TNA, which is the one that he currently has now. However, it is in a deadlock title lock tie with the original version, which was the one that he first had when he came back and he was, you know, christian.
Speaker 3:Because you're a, you're a, you're a was you know?
Speaker 2:yeah, that one, yeah those ones are tied for number 9, because it was just way too hard for me to pick specifically which one of those two I like, because each one of them gets me hype as hell. That's my number 9. Number 8 Big Show's original theme song god damn it jesse big show's original oh you, son of a bitch.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, that is that. Do be slapping, they do be slapping. I'm making, I be slapping, I'm making your list for YouTube so that way I can put it on our channel later on. I'm taking the titantron and everything. That's what I'm doing, go ahead.
Speaker 2:Original Big Show's theme song number eight. Is there a reason? Why I've always loved the Big Show's theme song. As a matter of fact, to this day, I almost sing his theme song. As a matter of fact, to this day, when I actually I almost sing his theme song daily because it's just become like a catchphrase of mine when something would happen. Like you know, when something happens and you're just in there, like uh-oh Me I always well, and that's me every time as a matter of fact, sometimes you'll actually even catch me putting it in uh in chat sometimes, because I say it so much in person.
Speaker 2:Sometimes my friends will even like be all like, like some like something will happen to be like where normally I actually do big shows's second theme song's well.
Speaker 1:The way that well is is a little bit better.
Speaker 2:Because it fits better. But if something that's just absolutely buck wild. Then we will hit the original Big Show's theme song. But of course Big Show's theme songs just don't miss, because his one in AEW, that one's Chef Kiss 2, I don't think.
Speaker 3:I've actually heard.
Speaker 1:Let me check that one out keep going, though, but I'm gonna check that one out. I don't think I ever actually.
Speaker 2:I love that one, and it's funny because I actually quote the lyrics to that song as well. Only because when you quote them out of context, they're meaning Because I'll sometimes quote man, it's been one long road and we're just getting started. I quote that, and then I also quote this journey is my life. And those are just two of the quotes that I always take from that, because I always, you know, when it comes to certain situations and I so, for example, like if we're talking about how, like we're just having a really, really, really like, if it's like a really bad day or you're having a really bad time, that's when the quote, where, that's where the quote comes in it's been one long road and we're just getting started. Because that's the first line of the song yeah, no, I'm listening. And then and, and then later on, he makes the statement this journey is my life.
Speaker 1:I just love the thing of no more BS. I love that. I love that about his, his titantron no more BS.
Speaker 2:It's too bad that he did not do anything in AEW. He wasn't really going to, but yeah, he made it seem like he was going to, but I digress. I would get that shirt, though if he had a no more BS shirt, I'd get that shit so that's number 8, number 7, number 7, goldust's tip song, that's number eight, number seven, number seven gold dust song I goddamn knew it I was almost surprised that gold dust did last this long in the top.
Speaker 2:It almost got pushed out. But yeah, gold dust is the same song and, for all intents and purposes, all versions of them are all versions of them. Slap. Besides, besides the artist formerly known as gold dust yeah, that shit was weird yeah, yeah, listen, I used to think that that wasn't a theme song, I thought that was fake. And then I've gone back and watched old episodes and I'm like no, he did use it. I just don't recall, because I remember watching him do this weird shit as a kid.
Speaker 1:Yeah, bdsm, godus. Yeah yeah, weird shit as a kid. Yeah BDSM.
Speaker 2:Goldust, yeah, yeah, I. I just didn't recall the music that was playing at the time. Yeah, boy, let me tell you.
Speaker 1:But I just hope I Anyway continue on. It would be pretty. Why that one?
Speaker 2:Because because gold dust's theme song is such a vibe and is just gold dust period is such a vibe and such a character. He's like one of my top favorite. You know, like characters when it comes to wrestlers. His theme song it just sounds so dope. It's so different when it comes to theme songs, especially when you listen to this list of songs that I have here. They're all so different and so specific sounding there's have here. They're all so different and so like.
Speaker 2:Specific sounding is like like no, there's no other wrestler out there that has a theme song that remotely sounds close to gold dust no, except stardust and even then that's almost a complete cop out, yeah yeah, because once again gold dust made stardust, kind of like if there would be no stardust if there wasn't gold dust.
Speaker 1:To me, gold dust was the perfect. When you say wrestling gimmick, gold dust was the perfect like example of what a real wrestling gimmick should be like. If you're going to go hard into your gimmick and be what it is instead of that whole, okay, his wrestling gimmick is a superhero. Gregory Helms is another perfect example of a wrestling gimmick done right. Goldust is one. Hurricane Helms is done one.
Speaker 2:Undertaker is one.
Speaker 1:Yes, these are just gimmicks that can just never die. Like it can go on for years and it would still.
Speaker 2:However, however, because I actually saw someone talking about this one time comparison, comparing, like gold dust and undertaker, is the fact that where undertaker's gimmick because they had, because it it's a gimmick, but there was such a mystique and such a character that was carried with it that allowed it to retain all of its dignity, and all of you know like it's a cool factor throughout the whole years bulldust, though his gimmick was a full gimmick and whatnot, because of the way it was presented. And then there was also the fact that there was backlash and then, like gold dust, actually had to pull back from doing his gimmick because he did it too good, kind of thing he apparently even wanted to get um, he wanted to get brats too.
Speaker 2:He was like he was really into it yes, he, like he was going full tilt but because of the fact they had to pull back and there was so much backlash from it and whatnot, his gimmick kind of sort of went down a different lane from undertakers.
Speaker 2:Because there was a point, there was a time where gold dust and undertaker were kind of sort of like well, I won't say they were like right here with each other, but they faced each other and they had like their whole little shtick and stuff like that. But it's just the fact that where undertaker's gimmick though it was a gimmick, it was serious, gold dust is his gimmick kind of sort of went down like the goofy route kind of thing and yeah, which is, which, at the end of the day, is not bad. As a matter of fact, gold dust himself has also said or shall we call him dustin? But he himself has also said the fact that, like he loved his goofy shit, he was like that was the most fun that I was having ever kind of thing, and I don't hate it, I loved it and I'll do it again because it was, because it was good shit, he was getting paid.
Speaker 1:So the stuff will be legendary, no matter what Exactly.
Speaker 2:No, but it's just one of those things Like, as far as the theme song, the theme song goes, it is such a sound and it is such a notion and no matter how goofy he would be inside or outside of the ring, his theme song made him so much cooler than what he portrayed himself during that time. Now, when he left and he came back and he had that stunt when he was with his brother and stuff like that, he slapped the cool factor back on the Goldust thing Because now he was Mixing up his pain too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, he started doing that, he was wrestling. Actually, yeah, he started like he started doing that he was, he was wrestling, like actually performing and stuff like that. Like I feel, if gold dust was allowed, if he was allowed to be gold dust again like right now kind of thing, which I don't, I don't know if he's, if he, he doesn't want to, he doesn't want to.
Speaker 2:But it's like if he was to be Goldust right now, with what he's doing right now, he would. The name Goldust would get elevated to such a height because of taking how good of an actual wrestler he is and then putting the Goldust name behind it, could you imagine him versus Velveteen Dream oh, or even better just joining up with him like oh man, maybe like the Golden Dream, the.
Speaker 3:Gold Dream. Such a missed out opportunity that could have been the golden dream.
Speaker 2:What Such a missed out opportunity that could have been. Oh my God.
Speaker 1:It would have been great, okay, yeah, go on to the next one before I have a moment.
Speaker 2:So number six, who was the song that almost messed up my whole process? Asuka, the Future Okay, okay, okay. And I almost regret not putting her on this list because the next song that I thought of, but I was like no, I couldn't put it on the list and like I'm almost regretting that I didn't, because when I thought of oscas, I also immediately thought of uh, uh, amber moon, her theme song. When she was in casting her that song, I'll just slap her. But nah, oscas, like out oscas theme song showed up, like when I was like her theme song showed up when I was like nearing the tail end and I'm like, okay, I'm hearing these songs, I'm like they're good but they're not doing it. And all of a sudden Asuka's came on and I was like, hold up, do I like Asuka more than Randy Orton? Shit, more than Big Show, goddamn, more than Goldust right now, oh, snap.
Speaker 3:And then I'm like wait more than my number five Not quite, not quite, not quite, not quite, not quite, alright, alright, alright, alright. Valid, valid, valid.
Speaker 2:Not quite, not quite, alright, alright alright, alright, alright, valid, valid, valid, because that theme song is just fire, pure fire. I I hate her new one cause her new one is just a if, if the first theme song was the first movie, that was an absolute banger. Her second scene, her first theme song, was the first movie. That was an absolute banger. Her second theme song is the second movie. That's like we didn't really need a second movie. That's how I feel about it. And so the future? Like listen, this theme song was my ringtone for quite some time. As a matter of fact, outside of big shows and Tessa's theme song, every theme song who I've spoken of were theme songs on my were ringtones once upon a time. So there's that bit. So the theme song that Oscar could not beat was Chris Benoit's. No Holding Me Back.
Speaker 1:So whatever I think, it's whatever I think it actually is whatever.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, that theme song. Nothing but hype. Just, it's a good theme song, like it's one of the main theme songs that I can put on and I can listen to on repeat for like hours.
Speaker 1:For no reason, man. No, no, man, me back back because I'm driven by feet and yeah, I'll go ahead and get it back. Let me go ahead and stop. Let me go ahead and stop. That is a good one, even to the point where, uh remember when um killing spree made a beat off of it, bro, I wanted to do something that beat so bad.
Speaker 2:I remember, I just don't remember what it sounds like anymore.
Speaker 1:It's very slow, like you have to. I have the beat still, but it's one of those like, ooh, I want to do something Anyway. So that's number five.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, Now we're getting the top five territory.
Speaker 1:So that was number five.
Speaker 2:No, that was number five. I guess I should say we are now in top five territory.
Speaker 1:So that was number five. No, no, no, that was number five.
Speaker 2:Okay, I guess I should say, we are now in top five territory. So, Kirsten Wall. Number five, number four Sorry about Joe, damn luck. Beer money theme song.
Speaker 1:Which one? Because there's a specific one which is it the original one or is it the uh? Um, you talking about that one?
Speaker 2:I actually see you saying that what was the? What's the?
Speaker 1:original one you're talking about. He's from the country he's from the city.
Speaker 2:No, I thought that was. Oh, I actually don't think I've ever heard that one.
Speaker 1:It's the OG one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, then they must have changed it real quickly, because the one that I'm talking about is the one where it's actually called Sorry.
Speaker 1:About your Damn Look.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's the one.
Speaker 3:And I don't give a damn what you think you got to do that I'm a gambler. Because I'm a gambler man, I play the wind. Sing it now. Song about John Taylor.
Speaker 1:Yup, that's the motherfucking shit. Yes, it is. I used to.
Speaker 2:I used to be able to play that on the guitar. I used to be able to play Wow. Yes, I used to be able to play that theme song, which also another fact when it comes to these theme songs. I used to be able to play that theme song, which also another fact when it comes to these theme songs I used to be able to play Beer Money's theme song. Big Show's theme song is actually a really easy thing to learn to play on the guitar, big Show's. I was figuring out Christian's theme song a little bit.
Speaker 1:Here's the thing I think we both can agree. As fans of Beer Money, Like I think that's a tag team, we both can say like that's our tag team, Like one of our favorite tag teams. We both enjoy. But when you say Beer Money, you got to say it so hard. A blood vessel better be here.
Speaker 2:when you say beer, you got to scream that shit to the fucking heavens Listen, you said it and like your mic was all like no cut him.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, okay, okay. It was beer money.
Speaker 2:But yeah, no, like I, when beer money was doing their thing in teammate, they could do no wrong in my eyes, nothing, nothing. They were one of the best tag teams that I feel like nobody be talking about, because they work so good together.
Speaker 1:They and to hear the story of how they were formed in the promo was like, basically the promo they cut after the match where they just got thrown together. It was like there's two things in this world that are absolute that's beer and money. And right there, the minute that he they said that sentence, it was done.
Speaker 2:The team was formed. Yes, beer Money Incorporated. That's my number four.
Speaker 1:My number three which now that we Now I know these three. Yeah, I know these three now.
Speaker 2:We talked about it. It makes me sad that he might be going, but Shinsuke is Nakamura's first thing when he first came to WWE.
Speaker 1:Oh, oh, so it's shifted now Okay.
Speaker 2:Shinsuke Nakamura is my number three Fam. I His theme song is so dope it is and I've even gone and listened to his New Japan theme song and it is dope too, like it is worthy of being spoken of. But Shinsuke's theme song and then just everything that Shinsuke was oh my god, listen when Shinsuke came to WWE. When I it's, shinsuke is someone WWE. When I, shinsuke is someone who, because I never watched any of his prior stuff.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, when he had strippers, when he was going out to the ring and shit yeah.
Speaker 2:He comes to WWE and it's not often I just instantly fall in love with somebody. Like that, as soon as he comes, that Like, just like, as soon as he comes on, I'm like, yep, that's it, that's all I need, that's him, it's him. I need him to go to the moon and beyond, like that.
Speaker 1:No, I'm telling you that gave me goosebumps, Like whenever he first came out a NXT and whenever I. I sometimes still watch the video package of him and Sammy, because the literal goosebumps you get whenever he finally hits the fucking ring. You hear that song and he does the and he it was like mmm aura aura, true aura, it's that moment.
Speaker 2:There are few times where I've been at a show live and someone's theme song hits and I, like, out of nowhere, just randomly, get emotional, just like because I'm that excited, that hyped, hyped, and I was at the smackdown after wrestlemania when they was at the camping stadium this past. The last time they was at camping stadium, um, I forget which rest may that was, but that was where they had the, uh, the, the, the big, the big globe and the fucking roller coaster background and stuff, titantron, and so he like. So it was like, I think, uh, they had. There was a promo about the fact that I think shinsuke was supposed to be going to smackdown but, unbeknownst to us, we were going to actually get shinsuke that night and so you know how they have the dark match at the very end. So our dark match at the very end.
Speaker 2:I think Dolph Ziggler was in the ring, he had a match or something like that, and then all of a sudden, shinsuke's music starts playing. I could have cried because of how, like number one, like I was not prepared, and then it was all like wait, shinsuke's coming to SmackDown. He's what, what, like, I lost it. That's why I have so many Shinsuke shirts. I got like three or four of them. Like I bought a lot of shirts that are shorter by the time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I got two of his yeah.
Speaker 2:And what was also dope was the fact because, literally, it was cool because they had that match Him versus my boy, dolph Ziggler okay of all people and then, funny enough, I got to watch pretty much that exact same match happen later on because him, the first person who shinsuke was feuding with, was indeed dolph ziggler. So it was like we got the preview of the feud before the feud happened, and so that shit was dope. But yeah, shinsuke Nakamura's theme song another song that used to be my ringtone, absolute banger, and it's really hard to get better than Shinsuke's theme song. You got two more, unless it's the second song and it being the brood and it being the.
Speaker 2:Brood, gangrel's theme song.
Speaker 1:Yes, oh my God, yes, I've been waiting for when I hear one of those Mm-hmm Go ahead, explain, explain.
Speaker 2:What is there to explain? The Bro broods theme song is probably. The broods theme song is one of the best theme songs period and the fact is like one of those few times where it's all like man, I love gangrel. But like you deserved a much stronger push with a theme song like this. Like you, your theme song had no business knocking this hard yeah for for you to do nothing like like you should have been sorry, go ahead. You first.
Speaker 1:I was about to say the Brood theme song is one of those songs that I still regret that we never rapped on when we were doing music actively. That's one of those songs like why that it's such a beat that should have been just destroyed with lyrics and it don't need it, but especially Bro.
Speaker 2:Bro, so with lyrics and it don't need it but like especially bro.
Speaker 2:So the my answer to that is what you just said, because it it doesn't need it and if it's going to have, it, man, which is also the other issue that was, I know was always for me is like nigga, what are you going to even say on a track like this, do we do justice? Yes, like, like. What do I say? Like at this point? It's like, how can I elevate this already extremely lifted track? You know, as like it. It's not like I'm like a big vampire connoisseur, so I'm not gonna come up on that, this track, like rapping about blood sucking and vampire shit and and stuff like that, and then like, if that's not what I'm saying, any other thing probably might sound a little off-putting, unless if I'm coming up on some demon time type shit which, once again, is very far away from what I personally am about. So I'm just like I don't want to rap on this and someone being like yo, this shit's whack, dope, ass beat, but yo, these bars are weak.
Speaker 1:I'm just like and that's what I felt too. But it's just one of those like man, I'll freestyle to it, just a free, just for fun yeah, just a fun just a fun all the time, uh, all the fucking time. But yes, that song man. Ah, I had a battle with that one too. But give, give me these honorable mentions, man. I want to hear these honorable mentions before we get to that number one.
Speaker 2:So I'm going to specifically talk about the songs that, as I was doing it, that literally just got pushed down from being in the top 10. So my number 11 one was Apollo Crews' theme song when he first showed up was Apollo Crews' theme song when he first showed up. That the fact that you're giving me this look like the fuck is he talking about. But, mate, I also know that you really didn't watch a whole lot of NXT.
Speaker 1:Oh, I did, I just couldn't remember it off.
Speaker 2:Rip Like listen Apollo Crews' theme song like listen. Oh yeah, this one okay yeah, no, so good and he was so good and he deserves so, so much more like, but they just don't do nothing with him.
Speaker 1:It hurts me but he was a big guy who was like a smooth guy, small guy, yeah, Exactly.
Speaker 2:Well, he was short, but he was fucking built.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what.
Speaker 2:I mean, he was a big guy, he was ripped, but yeah, so Apollo Crews' NXT theme song after Apollo Crews number 12 ended up being funny enough, which goes to show how far it got pushed down, randy.
Speaker 1:Orton's.
Speaker 2:Voices, number 12. Okay, Dolph Ziggler's original theme song Perfection, the original one.
Speaker 3:I am perfection, so take a bloodshot, give it all you got, bring it on the original one. I am perfection, so take up that shot, give it all you got, bring it on. Come on, bring it on.
Speaker 2:The show is not that way nah, I mean it's dope, it's good, but his original I am perfection, like that's. That's the one that did it for me always, and then after that, I am perfection. That's the one that did it for me always. And then after that, chris Jericho's first, chris Jericho's WWE original theme song Break Down the Walls of Jericho song still slaps it does the OG one, there's another one, it's like a lot of variations ones, but it's.
Speaker 1:There's another one, it's like a lot of variations ones, but it's that one, and then it's you know like where it's just just does that one. For some reason that intro just slaps, went away, just I don't know why.
Speaker 2:That was like one of his last runs, though but yeah and so um, those were number 11, 12, 13 and 14, and the number 15 was actually ministry of darkness, the steam song. Ministry of darkness.
Speaker 1:Undertaker so I'm surprised I was. I'm surprised it wasn't on this top 10. That's what.
Speaker 2:That's what's blowing my mind, though, too so to let you know, all right, when I first started this list, randy orton was number one.
Speaker 2:Okay, when I when I first started this list, 20 hours later, randy orton went from being like randy orton was like the uh, do I like this song more than I like Voices? That's what happened, and after a while it went from that to Well, I think what was it? The first song on my list of songs that actually beat Randy Orton ended up being Goldust. So Goldust used to be number one. Goldust is number seven. Okay and so, and like there's a lot of tracks on here, like some of these other tracks that didn't make it up on here Like I would, I honestly I would almost want to be all like remember this one just to see how you felt.
Speaker 2:But um, but Number one, the, the number one song, after all the honorable mentions, of course, is gonna be fucking Kane. What do you expect? I don't know what you want from me. I'm real simple. I like what I like, and when I like it, I like it a fucking lot. What can I do? What do you want me to do? Kane's theme song just hits, and it just hits harder than anything else that I could possibly think of. Like there's just no beating. He's my favorite wrestler of all time. Of course it's going to be Kane. Now, to be specific and I think we've actually talked about this once before yeah, which?
Speaker 2:one we both like to be specific, the one that I prefer, and it's really it's a hard choice because, like all of them, all of Kane's theme songs slap up until, I would say, when he left and he came back and he had the freaking the, that, that steel, that steel worker's mask, like that theme song was like the last one, that was like good, and then, like after that I think, he had like two other theme songs that were like all right, you know, you kind of just beat the dead horse a little bit here with this, but uh, but the one that I prefer is indeed peak Kane's theme song, which is called burn.
Speaker 1:Yeah, We've had this conversation because I I like the original where you like burned.
Speaker 2:Correct Now, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1:The original is still great, especially because, like the the original one, it has like this, there's like it has like a hip-hop beat in there it's more mystique to me, it goes more to the original idea of the character, where Burn is just oh, yeah, he's just from, he's from hell. Yeah, he's from hell. Oh, absolutely, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:But no, it's like the original one. In the original one that he comes out to, it's like after you get past the, but then when it gets to that bridge, there's like they bust out the fucking hip-hop drums in there, because after that that's why, whenever they made that rap version, like that rap version, the I was like bro, this beat is fire.
Speaker 2:It's like just out of nowhere, literally out of nowhere. Also is like alright, and you start dropping bars right here. You just like literally, like literally out of nowhere. Also is like all right, and you start dropping bars right here. Just oh, like okay.
Speaker 1:All right, no problem. Honestly, you don't even fix the bars. Normally everybody's beat, like everybody's song, had to be made into a beat. No, no, no, they literally just took it hook it Just as it was. Yeah, as it was.
Speaker 2:They didn't touch it and it was like literally the whole thing. You know, it's like you know the guitar and the freaking. What do they call those organs? The pipe, organ playing, and then on that little tip, so. I'm like, okay, alright cool, we just, we just straight flip the shit on them. Alright, guys, fucks with it. Yep, you go get him Kane, you do that, you do that thing. Well, yeah, you know, that'd be my list. Go ahead and show me what you got, brother.
Speaker 1:Big Ram. You don't know, you don't see.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry. Who was it that? I don't even know who was the rapper?
Speaker 1:The Eastsiders which, if it's the Eastsiders, and don't even know who was the rapper? The Eastsiders which, if it's the Eastsiders, and I think I know who the Eastsiders is if it's the Stinky. Fingers. That's Onyx. Why don't?
Speaker 2:they like.
Speaker 1:West Coast artists. It's Snoop Dogg, snoop Dogg's artists, it's literally called. They're called the Eastsiders, it's uh Goldilocks. There, the east siders, it's uh goldilocks. There's big trey d and there's snoop dogg is that so? That's who it was, yeah, snoop dogg I don't think was on the song, because snoop dogg he was on the stone cold song yeah, but his, his group, the east side itiders.
Speaker 2:It was the East Siders.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay, east Siders, because, see, I almost got mixed up, because I think, because later on, redman I believe it was Redman who also did like a rap.
Speaker 1:He did Mankind's, I think. I think he did Mankind's.
Speaker 2:Because it was Redman. Was it Method man Method?
Speaker 1:Man did the Rocks. Okay, because finally the Rock has come back Laying on my smack, on your monkey. Crack, can't it call the axe. I'll never forget that shit.
Speaker 3:Never forget that shit.
Speaker 1:No actually Stone Cold, was it? I think it was Snoop Dogg, because he had WC in it too. Yeah, um, but alright, my list. Unfortunately I didn't rank it, but I think I did somewhat. I'm not too 100% sure, so going from number 10.
Speaker 3:I'm not 200% sure, so going from number 10. Top 4 Catcher 5.
Speaker 2:Wow Of all time Big pressure.
Speaker 1:I don't bro. My logic behind this and this is how I'm going to tell you how my logic was my logic behind my top 10 favorites is if the song hits, I gotta scream, put that shit in my veins, literally inject it, and I'm screaming this song to the heavens. It's something about big, big pressure, bro. Whenever that bitch hits, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, hype as fuck. Fair enough, that song is.
Speaker 2:I can easily say it's the greatest song on AEW nigga absolutely so.
Speaker 1:That's kind of one of those things where if I'm at an AEW event and I don't hear that song, I'm having an issue. I'm at an AEW event and I don't hear that song, I'm having an issue. I'm having an issue.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to an AEW if I know Swerve is not there, Literally when the track drops. I'm doing the Prince Nana dance and that's it.
Speaker 1:At the second fucking time and you just knew, bro. That's why it's top 10 for me and it's the lowest for a reason because out of everything else you're getting ready to hear, it's kind of like the like, how you was, like, is it better than this song?
Speaker 2:it's, my logic is put that shit in my veins and as I was listening, I have no idea what's coming after all my veins and as I was listening, seeing the fact that it made it to your top 10, I am. I have no idea what's coming after all.
Speaker 1:Yeah, my list is about to blow your fucking mind and you're probably going to be looking at me some type of way during this top 10. Alright, it's already begun, yeah, so number nine Funeral March. Undertaker the OG Funeral March.
Speaker 2:Funeral March Taker.
Speaker 1:Yes, specifically because that version of Taker for me, was everything, everything. Oh my gosh, that version of Taker tape was so dope, especially with the casket matches, and he did the promo in the fucking casket like that. That was my taker, that was my taker. And it's specifically because I like this version, because of the gong and the way it sound and there is a specific part. Whenever the chorus is hitting and it does this, I don't know why it gets me going. And whenever it hits that boom, boom, like it's that that song is everything to me. I will, I, I will want that shit played at my fucking funeral, for fuck's sake, Like it's that fucking good.
Speaker 1:That song is so goddamn good. I don't know why it's so good.
Speaker 2:You know, you talked about this Just made me realize that it's very possible that, like the list I gave, you could be wrong oh, the one that you made for me no, no, no, like the list I just got done. Telling you uh-huh there's. There is a small possibility that it could be wrong, because I don't know why this theme song did not come to me before, but it just came to me now and I'm just like.
Speaker 1:Oh, that funeral March Taker one.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's not that, but I'll tell you after you get okay, Okay so, um wait what happened, Okay so there's that number eight. My time triple h.
Speaker 1:Okay, all right, I'm surprised it's that low but well, I, because I didn't rank mine, I really didn't rank mine until you said it, and I had to even think about it yeah, I had to think about it.
Speaker 2:I had to think about it, so I end up ranking them as I'm looking at them right now because I find it funny the fact, like you was all like I'm gonna give this to you, see if I can stump you, and then, in the midst of it, in the midst of doing this, you're all like oh wait, you did that. Oh snap, I don't know how to do that.
Speaker 1:I was gonna see if you could actually do it like putting you on the fly, but you did it. So it was gonna be that putting you on the fly, type shit, and then it's like, oh, actually you put me on the fly it totally backfired, goddamn oh god.
Speaker 2:So my time triple h got it because 1999 to 2000 triple h.
Speaker 1:As much as I hated him growing up, I could not stand that motherfucker. But whenever that theme hit, whenever I got a water bottle in my hand, I cannot help but feel like I need to pour that bitch up and spit it. I cannot help but to do the fucking entrance itself. Anytime I have a water bottle in my hand.
Speaker 2:As one should.
Speaker 1:As one should. That's the beautiful nature of the entrance in a theme song, number seven we taking it all Settling the school.
Speaker 3:We taking it all Settling the score, I get a lot we taking it all that fucking song.
Speaker 2:I am very surprised that these more recent tracks have made it into the all-time list, that's crazy.
Speaker 1:The all-time list. That's crazy. It's. It's mainly because it was really like, how you said before what songs are like relevant to me enough that if I ever play it, no matter what, I'm here, I am absolutely here and I know I had to. Really there's certain songs that because it's in my top 10, really there's certain songs that because it's in my top 10 list, there are certain songs that are not in this list. It's kind of like, but this song is no matter what it's going to be it for me. And to say it's in a top 10, I feel like a lot of the songs that I would put on my top 10 are literally going to be stuff from the Attitude Era and I feel like that's not justice and it doesn't give me a chance to branch out from all eras of wrestling. I'm so much of an Attitude Era fan I don't feel like I would give any other era or any other area its opportunity to shine.
Speaker 2:So that's fair. I mean I can kind of see that that, because I mean, for all intents purposes, listen, my top 10 list was nothing. But if jim, if jim johnson didn't make it, it was cfo who made it yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I was, yeah, that's and that was it, that's it for instance, actually funny enough, solos or not, solos theme song did actually.
Speaker 1:Solos theme song actually would have been right after the ministry of darkness actually, so it was on the list once upon a time yeah, if this was like a top 50, it probably it probably would have been a little bit lower, but this is mainly because I have no choice. But if I'm having the conversation of what songs? If I'm putting it on and I'm, I'm, I'm ready to go. You, you play this song Like I remember when I was at the WWE holiday show and I think I told you about this story, about this kid, when Solo came out and was going against this team with him and Jacob Fatu the whole time I love you Solo and this kid kept like what the fuck is this guy? Triple cheat. He was on me the whole fucking match. He did not like me, bro, he did not like me, bro, he did not like me. That song is top tier for me. I, I, there's that all right, number six, and this is where I'm gonna throw you the fuck off completely, like you haven't already. Well, this one's completely throwing you off.
Speaker 2:Hollywood Blondes. Hollywood Blondes. Yep, Are you familiar with that song? I've heard it, but I know I've heard it before.
Speaker 1:But really Hollywood Blondes. Yes, I did get the chance to actually watch Austin, and this is what's weird about it too, because what you think is going to be on my list as an Austin theme, this is the one. If you expected to hear glass shatter. Austin in this list, no.
Speaker 2:I. I would not have expected to hear Glass Shatter Austin, but if you did mention Austin, then that's what I would have thought and then maybe I would even I would have, probably would have carded you more for the version that he has that's got Disturbed on it.
Speaker 1:It would have been that yes, it would have been that. And also there's another one that I really like the Alliance one Donning. It would have been that. Yes, it would have been that, it would have been that. And also there's another one that I really like the Alliance one. For some reason I like that one, but a part of it is mainly because of the Titan Tron and how it matched. But you know, hollywood Blondes. That was the only way I actually truly saw Pillman was when he was wrestling with Austin and whenever they used to come out. I actually truly saw Pillman was when he was wrestling with Austin and it whenever they used to come out to it.
Speaker 1:It never really made sense to me at first, but it was something about how devious that song was and anytime Austin was just it's. It matched the aesthetic of how heelish they were. But for a name like the Hollywood Blondes it doesn't match. Does that make sense? Like the name Hollywood Blondes, and you hear the song, it does not match. But for the heels that they were perfect, loved it, loved every second of it. And it was a song that I had to say like man, put this shit in my veins, injected.
Speaker 2:I'm going to have to go back and do a deeper listen to that song now. But for something like that to be like, I mean listen, at this point I have no idea what your number number, what your tops are going to be, because nothing on this list has made sense besides the triple h one, and even then at the placement that, the placement of it didn't make sense. So I'm along for, I'm just along for the ride at this point valid, valid, valid, valid, and these are ones I'm standing on.
Speaker 1:I'm re-advising because I had to really have such a hard battle with this one. It was so hard, it was so difficult for myself because, again, different promotions.
Speaker 2:Number five the Beautiful People they did make it on my list for a brief moment.
Speaker 3:Angel on my shoulders.
Speaker 1:Is that the theme song you think I'm talking about?
Speaker 2:What theme song are you talking about?
Speaker 1:The beautiful people, not the intro for SmackDown. I'm talking about teenage beautiful people, not the, not the intro for smackdown. I'm talking about teenage beautiful people yes, teenage, beautiful people.
Speaker 2:Did you not know that their song had lyrics to it?
Speaker 1:no, because the one I have doesn't really have lyrics to it. Oh man, okay, because which which? Era of beautiful people are you talking about?
Speaker 2:Because I'm going off the original Angelina Love and what's her name? Was it Velvet Sky?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, because the one I'm going off of. That's the one with the yeah that one.
Speaker 2:So yeah, so you know how a part you kind of like you, Because in the one that you're talking about you kind of hear oh, okay, okay, okay. So the original theme song is, and because I'll never forget, because me and Cecil used to fucking love it, you know.
Speaker 3:Joel on my shoulder.
Speaker 1:I didn't. I never probably heard that version of it. I just remember the only the version when they didn't have it, I guess, but that was.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they dropped the lyrics on that theme song. Like, like it, like, like later tna, okay, like, especially like when they like when they brought in the third chick for a brief, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah like they had x the lyrics off by that time, so it's a thing, okay, but yeah, no, beautiful People.
Speaker 1:I love that theme song, I love the ideas of the characters of the Beautiful People. The Beautiful People is a. It was a beautiful concept for wrestling and who, as much as you know, I love, when they got to the rope, point the camera right here, buddy, everything about the entrance, the team itself, the aesthetic, the beautiful people with a beautiful tag team for wrestling Absolutely Couldn't have named a concept Like maybe if somebody said the people weren't that great of wrestlers, I don't care, but the concept of the beautiful people and wrestling, the beautiful people did what they did, so tag teams like the Iconics and lay cool could thrive, you know.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 2:Or at least make people feel like I want to pay a little more attention to them. Uh, for all intents and purposes, I know, like Lay Cool was still kind of around during the time frame, that the beautiful people were kind of sort of doing their thing. But when it comes to the iconics they had a little bit of that beautiful people energy. But the beautiful people were also some hard-ass women. But that's just TNA knockouts for you, baby yes, all right.
Speaker 1:number four, which is why, when you said it, I was like which word are you talking about? Beer money, the original thing that I'm familiar with. He's from the country, he's from the city, because I know we both were consuming TNA. I mean, you consumed it more than me originally. But whenever Beer Money first established, I know they had this theme song and then they switched to Sorry About your Damn Luck and then, when they did another run again, they went back to the old theme song. Both of their theme songs are iconic, but if I'm going to choose one, it was going to be the original one, because that was the one I kind of was introduced to them and loved. But, granted, will I sing Sorry About your Damn Luck? Fuck, yes, fuck, yes, it's. It's the more injured singer friendly, because the first one has lyrics.
Speaker 2:it's just not as potent as the sorry about your damn luck one but this was number four, that's actually very funny that you put beer money at number four, just like I did that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:It was just. It was like, wow, okay, beer money was number four, just like I did. That's what I'm saying. It was like wow, okay, beer money was number four, but we just picked the other one. So that's why I said yeah, yeah yeah, that's why I said before it's like beer money was that? That was the tag team that we both can agree. That one was good. Um so, uh, beer money itself as a tag team is great. Number three, you probably this one, uh, muhammad hassan, muhammad Hassan.
Speaker 2:I was trying to find room for. Muhammad Hassan in my top and there was just. They just couldn't fit but, that fucking theme is so goddamn good. Oh, 100% it. Because, once again, I thought about it. I don't think I actually wrote it down because when it came to my mind was near the tail end, where I was like I, I thought about it, I listened to it, I looked at what was my top 10. At that time I'm like I can't squeeze you in there, bro.
Speaker 1:You might, you, can you fit underneath the top 10, but you don't fit in the thing about it with me is like I feel the only reason for some people it might not be in their top 10s because his run was so short. I feel like we got the chance to grow with him more as a character it was so short because he was.
Speaker 2:He was way too. He was way too hot of a heel.
Speaker 1:And too controversial for the time. Yes, and you know. Interestingly enough, I'm surprised and even in your honorable mentions I didn't hear Alberto Del Rio.
Speaker 2:He was in there, he was thought of, but once, once again, the reason why he didn't get into the honorable mentions is, once again, that was a theme song that I thought of when I was in, like my hour 19 and 18, of putting this together and I just listened to it.
Speaker 2:I'm like this is a good theme song, but like, because at this point I'm trying to like, I'm just focusing on the 10, and I'm like you, you don't squeeze in, you don't squeeze into 10, and so that's why, that's why he didn't, that's why they didn't get in there, and so that's why amber moon didn't get in there. However, I'm thinking back and I'm I might have made a mistake about the Amber Moon, because I really liked her theme song.
Speaker 2:And then, while you, was going, I was like I'm pretty certain I did make a mistake by not putting this one in my top, but I don't want to talk about that until you finish yours.
Speaker 1:Valid, valid, all right. Number two Natural Born Killer, new Jack. Okay, there's New Jack, all right. Uh, number two natural born killer, new jack um, okay, there's new jack yeah, yeah, no, he, uh, yeah, he.
Speaker 1:It's a battle between him and number one, because they're both for just like, whenever they come on, I'm, I'm so hype, I'm so hype, I'm so hype. But Natural Born Killer. The interesting part about it is because, while I originally was introduced to Natural Born Killer, for some reason WWE made a version that was also just as good. Well, not Natural Born Killer, but they made a song for him, for the network, because they couldn't use that song. And I end up falling in love with the new one more than Natural Born Killer. But then I was like, but there's something about this version that's not hitting anymore. What is it? And then I had to start watching, like whenever they did the Dark Side of the Ring one, and I was like, let me actually watch some of these matches back again.
Speaker 1:And then, all of a sudden, I'm like okay, yup, nope, this version, nope, it's this one. It's so whenever it pops on again. Anytime it pops on anytime. You watch where New Jack I think he was the first to do this where he plays his song, where he's beating somebody up, and it plays the whole song and normally his matches would last as long as the fucking song did, and then you get the stampede. The you know the matches with john moxley does it too, while those songs he has are good, like wild thing or whatever. It's something about natural born killer in the background and an extreme rules match or any kind of hardcore match. It just fits for me.
Speaker 2:I'll have to listen to that then.
Speaker 1:And then number one wait before honorable mentions. Honorable mentions, um, honorable mentions. Uh, jakes, trust me, jake the snakes, trust me, that's crazy jake's say, because it's like it was really. It was gonna be in that top 10. And until certain songs I had like, okay, let me actually check this. Let me check tna. Okay, let me check this era. Okay, let me check this.
Speaker 1:So there were so many eras I had to kind of bounce between and it would have probably been somewhere like in the in the top 10s. But then there's certain songs that just kept getting pushed down, that kept pushing it down. So there's that. And then the next snake we have is stone cold, obviously, uh, but technically his version I guess the name has switched up but the original um attitude era version, that's the one I'm in with. Okay, guard Big Boss man. Okay, big Boss Man's Guard that I get that. Okay, big Boss Man's theme song bro, he was the he's that heel that I wish he would have never stopped going. Because in every situation, if anything happened and it was Bossman involved, you're like you know what? God damn it y'all. That makes sense. Bossman doing that makes sense. Did you do five or did you only do three, by the way?
Speaker 2:honorable mentions I mean, I don't remember if you did three or five. I did, I did five, but you don't have to do five no, I have five.
Speaker 1:I just I didn't know if you did three or five. I couldn't remember. Um uh, number four out of it Switchblade. Switchblade's theme song, I don't know if you're familiar with that one, not like his AEW one. It's technically his New Japan one, so either way, oh okay.
Speaker 3:I guess I am.
Speaker 1:I like that one very much so, and that would be technically number. Was that number four or number three? I think it was number three. And then I also had Death Rider, jon Moxley, because but here's the thing, I don't like how they did it in AEW, it's the version that's in New Japan where it's the thing I don't like how they did in the aw, it's the virgin. That's in new japan where it's. It's the slightest difference, but I just don't like how they. It's. The original version was very slow. It matched the tone of when he left wwe and he was like leaving the asylum. So it's the tone. If you listen to it on Spotify and then you hear that version, that version I liked.
Speaker 1:I will put that in the. If I could ride a bike, I'm riding a bike to this song. Okay, if I'm in a bar and a fight goes down, I want this song to play like that type of aesthetic for me. I I really enjoy this song. Fair enough, oh, and then last one. Uh, what was the last one? Let me scroll to, was it um?
Speaker 2:the last honorable mention, or your number one yeah, last honorable mention.
Speaker 1:Last honorable mention was um, uh, fuck, I don't think I actually wrote it down. Um, so I'm looking through my list. Let me go back to my um, my youtube list on, because I had put all the songs in like a youtube list and like where you wrote them down. I just went through YouTube and made a list of each one of them. Must be.
Speaker 2:Do Love. Gotta be, do Love.
Speaker 1:Oh man, honestly, it's too cool, it's too cool.
Speaker 2:I almost felt like I was close.
Speaker 1:That's what I was saying you know what? You're not wrong, but it's too cool. You look, fly that song. It was between that and D'Lo Brown's, by the way because D'Lo Brown's, by the way because D'Lo.
Speaker 2:Brown. He almost made that top 10. I'm very surprised that he didn't like. This list is all over the place it is, it is.
Speaker 1:And that's why I knew, like when I started hearing yours and I was like, okay, our list are completely opposites, like some areas. Okay, I see that like big shows theme, totally would agree, it was actually in that area at one point. They started getting boom, boom, boom, boom um. And then I think it was another one you mentioned I was like, yeah, gold dust was on there too, absolutely, and it just started getting pushed down but I'm really curious to know what your number one is.
Speaker 2:Now there's a part of me only because, like I've like, there's a part of me that's like holding on to being like, all right, maybe he saved this one for number one and so can I have you tell me what you think it is before I give it?
Speaker 1:Can I have you?
Speaker 3:tell me what you think it is before I give it Taz no.
Speaker 1:Really that's crazy. Dudley Boyz First theme song, that one.
Speaker 2:Number one.
Speaker 1:Yes, and there's a reason why, though, and it's and, honestly, you're one of the reasons why, and it was because when you made Wild Style, when you had Wild Style with you and Kyle, you guys had that as your theme song, and I remember having matches between you guys. That one holds a huge memory in my childhood and why that theme song never left me Like just a part of the Dudley boys being my favorite tag team of all time and remembering the era that was them in the early 2000s. One favorite tag team, favorite childhood memory going against you know you. One favorite tag team, favorite childhood memory going against you know you and Kyle as a tag team, along with my characters, whatever. So a lot of that boils down to it. And two, the theme song to me is just dope as fuck.
Speaker 2:It is a slapper. It's in my top 20. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, it's definitely in my top 20, but it was also another one of those songs that came to my mind near the tail end of me making this list. I'm just like and to that point I was like but Wild Style though, but like it couldn't beat Test because Test was number 10, and it just couldn't beat Test because Test was number 10, and it just couldn't beat Test. It tried, it really tried, but it couldn't.
Speaker 1:There were certain songs that were on here. I wanted to like Crash the Hardcore Holly. I was like, oh man, this is such a good song. Fuck, I want this song in here.
Speaker 2:When I talk to you about songs that came up, some of them obscure but were good, like Scott Hall's TNA's theme song, marvelous Me, freaking. Love that theme song Freaking. Tori Wilson's theme song that lillian garcia sung.
Speaker 1:that was in there, goddamn but victoria call my own listen victoria's theme song, gail kim's theme song oh my god bro I had a literal battle with myself driving home from tampa, because I sat here was like, bro, this song I okay, I even even remembered how I was even gonna bring this up.
Speaker 1:I had literal thoughts. I would literally listen to this song and just being a trance sometimes because that song was so fucking good. But I felt like me putting that in, like I want to say, like me putting in my top ten list, was like out of pocket. But because there's a couple of them that you feel, yeah, there's a couple more here that you feel like out of pocket. But that one felt like to me, like this was more lustful and out of like trance essence, rather than like because she came out to the song and because of her background with it, because that run did not last that long, we didn't hear that song for that long. So for me it would have been more of a I love this song because of the lyrics and the beat itself.
Speaker 1:Fair enough yeah.
Speaker 2:Like listen, it's funny, Cause, like I went on like a small binge, I think, of the females and I was like like Kelly, Kelly was on my list for a very long time but she slowly got pushed out and like whether, if we liked them or not, I the bell twins like their theme song was great to me. I used to love their shit freaking. I'm surprised that no taz for you. That completely blows my mind taz was in there.
Speaker 1:taz I literally have in the list. Both theme songs are in this list, especially Survive, if I Let you Like. That was the one.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 1:Yes, it was in there, I'm like it was.
Speaker 2:I'm like top 10 and I don't hear no boom. But here's the thing.
Speaker 1:For some reason, sabu's theme beats his, sabu'sain beats his, sad Blue Stain beats his to me. Make you know somebody. Yeah, you think you think. But also another song that was in the top 10 at one point. Well, it's in the top 20, almost 30 now Mean Street Posse, yep.
Speaker 2:They came up Yep, yep, mean Street Posse, yep.
Speaker 1:They came up Yep, yep. Mean Street Posse was one.
Speaker 2:They were another one of those that came in like when I was like had my thick top ten and I'm just like, yeah, they don't beat nothing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm surprised you didn't have Abyss in there. He was Okay.
Speaker 2:He got pushed out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he got pushed out real quick because, it was like Abyss theme was one who else was there. You know, after us having that conversation about this specific person, I had to think back. I was like I really liked his theme song, the Pope. But then, as we had that conversation, I was like actually now, foolish was like actually.
Speaker 2:Now, foolishness aside, he was in there. He was, yes, he was in there and he got pushed out, just like Velveteen Dream. He was in there. He just got pushed out Because, regardless of what he did and how you feel about him, his theme song was a slapper.
Speaker 1:Here's the thing too. There was a song that oh, go ahead.
Speaker 2:A song that I now realize should be in there, and I think this song would actually probably fall. This song would actually probably fall.
Speaker 1:this song would push down Crispin Wah if it's what I think it is, because there was one song I'm surprised like hey, you thought Taz was for me. You know what my one was? Fucking V1, matt Hardy. Where the fuck is that in your goddamn top 10 Jesse? Where the fuck is that I'm actually insulted that? That fuck is that in your goddamn top ten Jesse? Where the fuck is that I'm actually insulted that that song is not in there?
Speaker 2:So there's a lot of wrestling. Keeps off, brother All right Matt.
Speaker 1:Hardy was you nigga?
Speaker 2:There's no fucking way there is so much wrestling music and if you don't think of it by name, it's not going to just find you Alright. V1 Matt Hardy not being in my top tens list is a travesty in a misjustice, because I didn't find it to hear it, to remind myself so do you feel like?
Speaker 1:you need to re-advise your list now now I do.
Speaker 2:I was this list was solid.
Speaker 1:This list was solid.
Speaker 2:This list was solid, but then you bringing him up just completely breaks the list again. Because once again, I thought I was solid on my list before and then Asuka popped up. And then Asuka took me down a whole nother rabbit trail, which led to my list being what it is now. Because I was like, oh my God, I love Asuka's theme song. And then I'm like because I was like, oh my god, I love Oscar's theme song and I'm like, oh my god, I love emmer moon steam song too. But the song that I was thinking of while you was putting all this together, that I also really like, that that actually should be in this list Yokozuna.
Speaker 3:Oh my god, yup.
Speaker 2:Yup, yes, sir, yeah, fam. So now bringing up Yokozuna and then V1 I have to do it over. I gotta do it over now. I obviously have not thought of and listened to everything that I thought I'd listened to, and so now here I am, just like this was a misjustice. Not everybody's vote was apparently accounted for, when I thought I was pretty solid. Well, that's the podcast today you guys.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, I had to listen to that again. And you know other songs I would love to. I haven't even gotten to my extra questions. And then where are you two hours deep. So here is now the one question I wanted to ask you. You're at WWE, say that person does not exist, right, and you had their theme song and I kind of automatically know which one it's gonna be. But if you had to go out to this person's theme song right now, you're in gorilla and they said yo, you're going out, whose theme song are you coming out to? I already probably know the answer, but I wanted to hear it.
Speaker 1:oh, oh no yeah, whose theme song are you walking out to the ring to right now?
Speaker 2:oh my god, you asking this question just made me realize ah, fuck, my list is, my list is ruined. My list is ruined because you asked me this question. Made me think I'm like, of course it would be.
Speaker 1:And then I realized I didn't even think of this theme song before Freaking D Malenko's WWE theme song, bro, and that was another one that was another one that I didn't see in this fucking list Because you had it in a fucking wrestling game and I'm also pissed off at you about that. Like there's songs that I'm like this was his theme song in this game.
Speaker 2:And this round, when you ask that question, it literally popped in my head. I'm like, oh, it would be Demolition, oh no, I didn't, yeah, yeah. Well, I guess we're just going to have to do this next week, because obviously this list is broken. This list is I guess I need another week to put this together, because obviously I missed some things, because that was the one.
Speaker 1:Remember how I was going to derail you with the ranking one. This was the one I was prepared for. This was the one I was prepared for. But then, as I started making the list again, it was like, ooh, I would want to go out to natural born killers. But then I also thought about man, if I'm with, if I'm with swag, I want to go out to fucking Dudley boys because that. But it also I had to debate with beer money too, because I was like fuck, that was literally our shit.
Speaker 2:So like that was that crossbones, fam nickel nickel.
Speaker 1:so if I had to go out myself, I'm picking probably my time triple H. Myself, I'm picking Probably my time Triple.
Speaker 2:H.
Speaker 3:Which is a solid choice.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Very solid, obviously Damn, oh, my God.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know, Because when it popped up in the list of songs I heard I was like, oh, Jesse's picking this. Oh yeah, he's picking this. There's no way he's not picking this and I'm hearing this list and. I'm like where is it? Yeah, just like how you thought my list was crazy. I'm like where the fuck are these songs?
Speaker 2:Yeah. So oh boy, If I were to look at right now.
Speaker 1:I think I know the answer. It's two possible answers.
Speaker 2:So that Dean Malenko theme song would go right under Shinsuke. So that would be number four, which would then put Test out and then Matt Hardy's theme song.
Speaker 3:I'm surprised that wasn't your number one.
Speaker 1:I'm surprised that wasn't your number one yeah, I'm surprised that wasn't your number one.
Speaker 2:I'm surprised that wasn't your number one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm surprised that wasn't your number one, bro.
Speaker 2:That was your shit, I'm sorry it was, but these other theme songs just slap a little bit harder. And to think that that theme song completely slaps the tornado and dries up a sea but, honestly, I honestly, which is the fact that cause that song, I would probably put, I'd put it above gold dust, which, but then that would that would end up pushing out my Christian Cage theme song. Ooh, that would push that out of the top 10, which is crazy.
Speaker 1:Because that's another one of those that when I heard the list I was like yeah, that's him. Yeah, but then Without a doubt, that's him.
Speaker 2:But then without a doubt like with those. I do believe, because at that point, because so let's see here, putting that in would push out Test, and putting that in would push out Christian Cage, which then Big Show would get pushed out and Yokozuna would become the number 10.
Speaker 3:Damn.
Speaker 2:The competition is heavy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I will agree. I will agree, though Putting Yokozuna would probably be my top 10 too, and I would probably have to push out Big Pressure.
Speaker 3:Big Pressure would get pushed out immediately yoko zuno, yeah, make a powers handshake.
Speaker 2:Make a powers handshake yeah, fam, that's uh, that's, that's that's wild, as uh, that's that's tough that my head hurts now.
Speaker 1:Thanks, yeah, no, no, how do you think I've been feeling? Because I've been sitting there and I was going to throw this question at you and see how it was going to make your brain spin. So, but which one are you coming out to? You coming out to d malenko?
Speaker 2:yeah, I think I'm, I'm. I'm d malenko, or shinsuke that that was the other one.
Speaker 1:I was thinking shinsuke or it was gonna be. Uh, it was either gonna be shinsuke or kane yeah, no, it's.
Speaker 2:It's deep malenko's theme song. It's so good, almost like undeserving for Demolinko.
Speaker 1:Like why is he at that point? Very much.
Speaker 2:And then they remixed it and gave it to Cesaro and it's like, why'd you give it to him? Which I don't know how if other people realize that, but like, yeah, it's very much similar. Yeah, demolinko's similar, it's the same.
Speaker 1:It's the same thing just obviously with the lyrics in there.
Speaker 2:Now you know yeah, just as the swedish lyrics yeah, you don't give in his chair.
Speaker 3:Say what? Say what? Boom, boom, boom.
Speaker 1:Yeah boy but lord knows well, guys, I hope you like the spin that I put at the end of this. When it comes to finding out the theme song, we both can agree. If it was tag team wise, it would definitely be beer money. That one we can both agree sorry about your damn luck will be the one we would come out to. But individually, if we had a song, those would be the songs that we would come out to. And, man, I honestly challenge you guys in the comment section what is your top 10 from every promotion that you ever listened to? I mean, you ever watched or tune in on? What is your top 10? And if you can rank them too, kudos for you. But you can see it from us, it is fucking difficult.
Speaker 2:There's no easy way about it. Literally those three songs See, there's the V1 already those three songs just completely smashed this original list to pieces, and now it's gotten me completely. Yeah, no, that is huh. This was tough. Yes it was tough and it probably will continue to be like. I think it would be easier if we separated them from timeframes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like eras yeah.
Speaker 2:Like in promotions. Yeah like eras. Yeah, like in promotions and stuff. Like eras and I mean, yeah, we could. Promotions would make it even more simple, but like specifically eras. You know what I'm saying. And like that I would have been able to make the list a lot quicker.
Speaker 1:What kind Bossman's Guard would be higher If it was the Attitude Era? Bossman's Guard would probably be damn near top three Because Bossman's Guard, that shit is fire bro.
Speaker 2:Damn that was quite bro. Damn that was quite the afterthought.
Speaker 1:So again, guys, thank you so much for tuning in. If you haven't yet, please like and subscribe and share the video. Even have a conversation with your friends. What is your top 10 favorite theme songs of all time? I feel like it's going to be conversations that can last forever because this conversation is longer than our usual program. So that can just tell you right there. That's how detailed it is for us.
Speaker 1:Music for us as you know, one who's still avidly making music, and for me, who at one point was making music music is a very big vocal point for both of us and in our friendship, outside of just wrestling, music is also just a combination of that and it means a lot to us. These songs mean a lot to us. They connect us in certain ways, for our memories and all those things. So that's why this episode was gonna be very tough for both of us. But for our next episode we'll be probably coming back to this a little bit, I can tell, and continuing on in the journey of what is just the Big Brothers of Destruction. As we go down this journey, it's going to be nothing but destruction behind us. All right, so until next time it's the Masa Kuk.
Speaker 2:It's the boy Swag Swag switcher freaking. By the way, if you haven't checked it, check out that millennium item though but you know you know I gotta show it off from time to time.
Speaker 1:You know mahogany mahogany, mahogany alright, guys, until next time, have a good one out.