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The wrestling world lost a true icon with the passing of Sabu at age 60. We open this episode paying tribute to the homicidal, genocidal, death-defying ECW legend who embodied the spirit of extreme wrestling until the very end – miraculously having his final match just days before his passing. What made Sabu special wasn't just his willingness to put his body on the line, but his unwavering commitment to his vision regardless of financial opportunities. Unlike many wrestlers who would compromise for a paycheck, Sabu remained authentically himself throughout his career.
From there, we journey through the current wrestling landscape, analyzing WWE Backlash and AEW's recent programming. Backlash delivered some solid in-ring action despite questionable creative choices. The John Cena vs. Randy Orton match stands out as both impressive and frustrating – showcasing incredible chemistry between these veterans while highlighting how finishing moves have lost their impact in modern wrestling. When multiple RKOs and Attitude Adjustments fail to end a match, what message does that send to viewers about these supposedly devastating moves?
The conversation takes a nostalgic turn as we explore the lost art of wrestling entrance videos or "titantrons." These visual packages weren't just cool graphics – they were storytelling devices that communicated character, attitude, and wrestling style to audiences in seconds. Stone Cold Steve Austin's iconic glass-breaking entrance with its highlight reel of stunning moments represents the pinnacle of this art form that has largely disappeared from modern wrestling.
This nostalgia extends to classic wrestling video games like SmackDown and No Mercy, where passing controllers between friends when stuck on difficult matches created shared experiences that connected wrestling fans. These games, with their branching storylines and memorable moments, fostered community in ways modern gaming often doesn't replicate.
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hey guys, is the big brothers of destruction back with another episode.
Speaker 2:It's the masako it's your boy swag switcher in the building. Please don't mind me. I, uh, I didn't eat today. Please don't mind me, I didn't eat today. It's been a very dreary and rainy day and kind of fits the mood a little, someone who I know Near and dear to your heart, considering the fact that you are indeed an ECW main.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I appreciate you immediately starting off with that, because that was one of the first things I wanted to do is pay respects to Sabu, the homicidal, genocidal, death-defying Sabu. He does have a near-dear place in my heart as a wrestling fan. One of those people, that man he definitely passed at the age of 60.
Speaker 2:It's one of those people you just didn't expect it to happen, but you know, life is life and it comes for us all, just wasn't expecting it today, Because I literally saw a post that was saying the fact that he which just goes to show like if you could say that his way of life and his way of wrestling was what he lived for, damn it. That's exactly what he did, Because I think they said that he literally, like a week ago, retired actually, he had his last match just the other night.
Speaker 1:Yeah in a white suit and everything went through a barbed wire table, barbed wire ropes. He lived it and he breathed it for it to happen. You know, in this way, you know he, he went out the way he came in. So we have to give him that much. We have to again say thank you, sabu, for everything you've done for the wrestling business. And you know I've heard a lot of stories about like you know things he turned down from WWE and you know what he could have been doing and all that kind of stuff and to understand that he had so many opportunities that was given to him. He wasn't a man that needed them, he was a man of little words, but he let his body do the talking. He let his body do the storytelling. So again, thank you to Sabu.
Speaker 1:I will say my best moment and I'm going to leave it at this my best moment from Sabu and you will know this one it's well, two of them actually. It's the Taz and Sabu feud that made Taz who he is today and it is that tag team match with him and Rob Van Dam. I will never forget that fucking match in my life with him. Hayabusa and I do apologize for the other individual. He was basically Japan's Undertaker. That's how I remember him, that's how he was. He was literally Japan's Undertaker and boy, definitely heavy heart. But I don't know if you have any memorable moments for yourself. I know I've shown you many of clips, many of things of sabu and the craziness that is him so, like I've watched sabu by proxy for the most part, I've seen little small tidbits of him.
Speaker 2:One of the things I loved about sabu right especially one of those like it it was the thing that, like when I finally got to really see him, I was like this is not what I expected, because, like with sabu he, when people talk about him they talk about like all of these crazy things that he would do and how wild he was and at this day and the other. It was like when I finally had my chance to see him because for a while he was just a name you know, and and and legendarily spoken of and, and then when I saw him, I was all like this is Sabu, and I was thrown off at first, and then, once I finally got to see him, and then I watched what he would do kind of thing, and I was like man, okay, it makes sense, I get it. Now I see this Sabu character. But one of those things how you was talking about, how you know he had all these different opportunities and he turned them down and stuff like that. That's probably the one thing I could say when I could respect to high heaven and back about sabu, and that's the fact that Sabu could not be swayed by money or fame. No, no, no, no. Sabu said if you want me, you got to take all of this and what I do. You're not going to change me. I'm not going to let you change me. There's no amount of money that you can pay me that will change me, because at the end of the day, I'm going to be this, and if you want this, then you pay for it, otherwise I'll take my business elsewhere. And that's exactly what he did.
Speaker 2:I feel like a lot of. I feel like a lot of wrestlers, and I know a lot of. I feel like a lot of wrestlers and I know a lot of wrestlers wouldn't do that. Hell, I know I myself wouldn't do that, because a lot of us would be all like well, I kind of want that paycheck though. So I mean, if I gotta wear the short shorts and the pink top, then sure. I mean, it's only gonna be for a minute type thing. Sad Movie's like nah man, I come in there with barbed wire sticking in, and if I can't, I'll take it somewhere else, and that is something you have to respect about.
Speaker 1:Same thing I said about New.
Speaker 2:Jack and you said he had a match like last night.
Speaker 1:It was like the other week. It was a couple of days or something like that but it was just recent, it was just okay okay, that's okay.
Speaker 1:So then maybe it might have been that match you were talking about, because you said like a week ago, but I just noticed it was like literally a couple of days ago. He just uh, he just was announced that iron chic, his uncle, is the next episode of dark side of the ring. So this is like the second time an ecw wrestler has done a dark side of the ring and granted new jack. His was made before his passing.
Speaker 2:It was like new jack had his episode. By the time it aired he had literally just passed oh no, it was.
Speaker 1:It was something else he was involved in and then he filmed that one and then he passed. But his original one he was up and able to watch it still exist, do his thing. And then whenever he filmed, the next one is after his passing. I'm asking um, whenever that one was posted, it was after his passing. I mean, whenever that one was posted it was after his passing. So same thing with Sabu. It's literally we got the announcement. It's literally this Tuesday. He's not even able to watch it.
Speaker 2:It's okay, he lived it. At least he left a little At least. Since that that would probably be our, I guess in a sense that would be like our true last time seeing him in any kind of uh setting and him speaking but freaking definitely a legend, one gone, not forgotten. Never will be forgotten as long as ecw's name will be chanted like Sabu is ECW. I would almost say Sabu is ECW as much as Andre the Giant is.
Speaker 1:WWE. He's definitely in the Mount Rushmore. That is absolutely for sure, definitely. If there was an ECW Mount Rushmore, he is on that.
Speaker 2:Oh, absolutely 100%. Sabu is ECW.
Speaker 1:If we go real quick, quick talk about Mount Rushmore, I can say it off the rip, and if anybody has an argument we can have a conversation. Ecw, mount Rushmore, sabu, taz, rob Van Dam, and this one is a hit or miss. Some people may say Shane Douglas, some people may say, um, his name is drawing a blank right now, cause you can't really put the Dudley Boys. Honestly, the Dudley Boys has to be on that, but it can't. It has to be like a single person. So, taz, sabu, rob Van Dam, I want to say Jerry Lynn. I'm going to say Jerry Lynn because him and him and Rob Van Dam's matches, bro, those are.
Speaker 2:So not, tommy Dreamer, damn. You're right not not saying that's who was it?
Speaker 1:that's who?
Speaker 2:all right, let's let's, I will not do that now.
Speaker 1:We're not doing that, all right I will have a serious conflict with myself, but I say all that sadly. Thank you so much for you, everything you've done, and, uh, we hope that hardcore wrestling wrestling like that in general still goes on in your memory. So thank you so much for that. But, um, going along with this week of wrestling, we got a lot of things we can talk about. We got we going to briefly try to go over the week of wrestling Some of the things we noticed Raw, smackdown, aew collision and Backlash just happened. So, yeah, real quick Swag. What are your thoughts about this week, because I know you've been deep diving into a lot of these things.
Speaker 2:So actually, funny enough, this week has been a bit off for me, I'll agree. Same here. Funny enough, this week has been a bit off for me, I'll agree. I did manage to watch what I could. Normally I'll watch and I'll take notes, but with the way that this week has been, I have not been able to watch and take notes like I usually do. Now, just sit balling it and going it off the top of my head.
Speaker 1:Number one um, let me just give aew its props right now oh wait, is it gonna be like how was gluck, gluck and john cena? Like you just said a fucking few minutes ago, it's gonna be on that level I'm not, I'm not pulling out, I'm just tapping.
Speaker 2:I'm just patting them on the head real. I'm just patting them on the head real quick.
Speaker 1:You've been patting them on the head for a couple of weeks now. You might as well just go ahead and at least grope them. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Listen, okay, aew has they have been doing, they've been doing things and once again, because, going all the way back to prior, we were saying the fact like how AEW, they're kind of in their, they're going through their WrestleMania, build up which is for them, it's what is it?
Speaker 1:apparently so. Here's the weird thing because, like google says it's double or nothing and then, like wrestling fans are saying it's all in.
Speaker 2:So I'm like I could have sworn it was double or nothing, but I'm going from what the wrestling public is saying it's apparently all in but it I do think it's a little weird almost, because it's like compared to like before that last pay-per-view, and then now it's almost as if they're they're like they're completely moving differently, okay, like with the way that they've been, and maybe it's because they're in this weird bit where they're trying to like they're rebuilding stories or what have you, although it's also been funny to me how, like how WWE and AEW have been kind of biting at each other a little bit.
Speaker 2:A little bit FTR, alright, and as well as things where technically it would almost feel as if like can I say that it's really close because Cause it's like, like it almost feels like WWE is biting on AEW a little bit with certain things, like, for instance, the whole situation going on with FTR and and Tony Schiavone and everything with the you know, and they're like see, apparently that happened after Gunther in that situation, so I don't know what really to say to that.
Speaker 1:Okay, so it, so that did happen, for I was trying to think gunther and pat mcafee happened before that happened.
Speaker 2:However, wait, no, no, wait, if you think about it, because the only reason why they did well, well, it's very, actually, no, it's very similar to them, it's just that, ooh, see, it's kind of a photo finish, because the situation is the fact that Raw comes on first before AEW, yeah, and the weekly lineup and the weekly lineup, but at the same time, you know, it was all because of something that either michael cole or uh shimani said about the respective wrestlers, and then so, after it, after it was said, which I think, considering the time, I want to say it was said. I want to say that what he said was was related to collision. I want to say it was said. I want to say that what he said was related to Collision. I want to say which would have been Saturday.
Speaker 2:But then however it might be, they've been biting on each other because of that storyline and there's one other storyline.
Speaker 1:Javon, you don't want to get into the real shit, like with Javon Evans and Ricochet.
Speaker 2:You don't want to talk about that the young OG where?
Speaker 1:where he said brother. When he said Ricochet said brother, I was learning from Shawn Michaels when oh no, excuse me, this was Javon Evans saying this to Ricochet. Brother, I was learning from Shawn Michaels when you was 12. Uh, wait, was it? Oh, no, excuse me, my apology, it is Ricochet. So, brother, I've been learning from Shawn Michaels since you was 12, then went to be a multi-time champion. Let me know when you win this one little boy. And then Javon said our word. So, um, you learned from HBK when I was 12 and became a multi-time champion. Now you're wrestling in front of 2000 people, oh, every week for crackhead. Uh, talk about an upgrade, am I right? The young OG?
Speaker 2:Listen, I um, I feel I've seen so many like outlandish things. People have said none of it I've been able to confirm, but one of the ones I saw was all like man. Someone made a tweet says like man, the young og just made t, just made nxt have to go through heavy um, um, heavy social media training or something like that.
Speaker 2:I'm like that'd be funny truth, but here I don't. I don't know why. Why, why, why do that like? Why? The response are we period, just just the whole, like I. I don't see why he had to try and go after ricochet, especially right now.
Speaker 1:Well, ricochet firing on all cylinders I believe ricochet uh, okay, ricochet was responding. It says sounds like mr khan isn't giving you enough attention so you had to come for a successful youngin. You're giving me the most views my posts have ever had, finally helping to get you some attention you've ever had. And it was like wink wink emoji. And then Ricochet responded. So Javon Evans was kind of the one that started it and I don't get it. It's a thing I don't get like. I know as wrestlers they kind of have a little. We as wrestling fans have tribalism. It looks like the workers have tribalism too by saying man, fuck the other side and it's on some gang shit, like literally it's gang shit. It looks like the workers have tribalism too by saying man, fuck the other side and it's on some gang shit, like literally it's gang shit and it's crazy it's, but that's how it always is.
Speaker 2:It always has been that way, like, and it's one of those things where it that way. It's one of those things where, in WWE, they've been dealing with it forever because they've always been the ones on top and even when they weren't on top, they were dealing with it One of the things I love about WWE. Normally, however, young OG kind of stepping on the line on this one, but it's like WWE does the thing where it's like they don't talk, they just flex Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:A lot of the times too, and the thing about AEW is like the times too and the thing about. Aew is like a.
Speaker 2:Oh, absolutely, and it's like of all people to want to come after trying to do this with Ricochet right now. I mean, granted, if it was because you just wanted to get eyes on yourself, then sure Okay. However, ricochet, he's on one right now and he's looking for a reason.
Speaker 1:I don't know, man, he's, uh, his heel persona, everybody's loving his heel persona. So I'm not too sure like, why would he be on one like that? I think Ricochet, it's more so because he's in veteran status. He's like 30, almost 38?, 36, 37?.
Speaker 2:I have to get better at knowing the ages of these people. Well, Ricochet has definitely been doing it for a while they're immortal until they retire from wrestling, and then they start getting old.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean certain people you can kind of just tell, like I remember they're starting to tell us certain things. Like you know, this match was 20 years ago and it's like bro, chill, like what are you doing? Like I'm I'm still trying to be youthful and you over here reminding me that, oh, this, this right, like the whole john cena and randy orner, oh you know, this has been going on for like 20 plus years, right? Oh man, don't remind me of that, dude. What's going on? What are you doing?
Speaker 2:There are certain things that actually feel like it's been that long, and then there are other things that's like it's really been that long. That's crazy.
Speaker 1:That's crazy. I think I was uh watching something else when it was talking about, like another thing. That was like almost that many years ago. I can't wait we get to speak up. I can't wait to get to this freaking backlash. Uh, talking about this real quick, because I I had posted something on facebook and I feel like it's freaking hilarious now, since we're talking about age and differences, uh.
Speaker 2:But before we get off, let's, let's go back to your aew comments and how you want to pat them on the head no, because like so, as far as like, progression of the stories and just the overall quality of the show that they've been giving recently has been good I won't say top notch, but it's been doing it for me compared to previous times. Now I will say I'm with the stories that they kind of have going on and stuff and some of the things that are happening. I'm like I'm I'm trying to figure out where they're trying to go with this because, like I, I like seeing the matches, but I feel like they're spinning wheels with this whole situation with the evps, young bucks and they just want to stop it like it's because it's like I what's the story?
Speaker 2:and it's like they keep you know they're they're trying to all you from it. Like it's because it's like I what's the story? And it's like they keep you know they're. They're trying to allude to the fact that you know they're on john moxley's side, or there's like something going on with them and john moxley, but it's like what is it? What are we doing with that part?
Speaker 1:so we're getting the same equivalent of John Cena and what was selling his soul.
Speaker 2:Which that's not the part that we pat on the back about, but no, I'm just saying like the equivalent of that.
Speaker 1:Alright, so give us the reason why, and then they never give us the reason why, just like how John Cena never gave us the reason why.
Speaker 2:Now I also won't say it's that bad.
Speaker 1:It's not, but I'm saying it's the equivalent of that Of like you jumped in a situation we don't know why and you don't want to tell us why.
Speaker 2:Like if two plus two is four, then the whole thing with John Cena and Dwayne Johnson, that's like five times five. You know what I'm saying? Like it's minuscule in comparison, Okay, absolutely minuscule in comparison to the absolutely minuscule. Minuscule because though they're kind of sort of like.
Speaker 2:It's kind of like hanging out the dry, it's not gone because all of the players are still playing in this and it's like oh, and then this interesting change of heart with um hangman oh, yeah, he's turning baby face now that that whole, like the way he did it and in the fact of just, I just really enjoyed the fact of him acknowledging the fact that, yes, all that shit that happened prior with me and Swerve yes, that happened. I legitimately tried to kill that man and the fact that him and Swerve though like the tension is still there they've both put themselves in this spot. They're both in a space where they're all like, hey, that shit happened. But my bad, not sorry, just my fault.
Speaker 1:Being accountable, being accountable, that's the perfect thing to say I may have called you a fuck nigga in the back.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, I'm sorry, you know what. I will hold myself responsible for what has happened and, though there's not gonna be Any forgiveness in all of this, just know I'm going to attempt To move past and just let it be it. But when Osprey came, and it's so weird because it's like past and just let it be it. But when Osprey came, and it's so weird because it's like, well, osprey isn't a heel, so it's almost like a heel. It's almost as if, like hangman, being the heel, is trying to be babyface. But then Ospreay came out there and was like no, no, no, no, no, bruv, shut the fuck up and be this fucking heel, because, fuck you, he. Just Ospreay was like no, no, you don't get to come out here and give this whole song and dance and then be all like okay, I'm done being a fucking lunatic and losing my mind. I'm gonna take my spot back. No, no, I've been doing all that stuff while you've been out here, having this existential crisis of your mind and whatnot. You don't just, you don't get to come back. No, ain't happening here, I'm just it's so.
Speaker 2:And I'm also glad that, like freaking, we're finally moving and doing some things with Osprey, like things are starting to move in AEW cause they were ass and then they were stale for a hot minute. But now they're like okay, okay, okay, we're gonna try this again and let's see if we can do it right. And I think they're starting. They are in the right direction as far as I'm concerned. On that, I tilt my hat off to AEW. Right now they're doing it, wwe oddly so they're in this weird space where they're just trying like they're in this, they're fixing things. They're trying to fix stuff and make you forget about what happened before. That's what WWE's doing and I think, honestly, I want to say that Backlash kind of fixed it. Like kind of Backlash has done a good job of being all like hey, just look at this as the the start and move forward, as opposed to all the dumb shit from Wrestlemania and some in like the week and a half after Wrestlemania because a lot of fixing had to be done. But they're doing it, they're doing it.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying are you talking about how they may backlash a good wrestling pay-per-view maybe not story driven, but at least a good wrestling pay-per-view correct.
Speaker 2:Yes, they're trying to make you forget and sometimes or at least funny enough, kind of taking a page out of aW's book here when the story is asked, make the wrestling really, really good. And so, hey, AEW, that's their MO baby when they start crashing and burning, going into a pay-per-view. That's why they throw 20 matches in 4 hours of wrestling. So it's all like see how amazing this wrestling is. Who cares about whatever we was doing on those prior shows and story and stuff? What story you know? I will say this much story and stuff.
Speaker 1:What story? You know I will say this much this much I will say.
Speaker 1:Toni Storm, good as hell, as always, cutting promos, that's all I care about. Was her promo on Collision, because Dynamite was like meh, outside of MJF, finally hurting someone that I cared about. I cared about that, but then I also hate when it was like Bobby was like I'll answer you next week, and it's like bro, are you fucking kidding me? It's the one trope in wrestling I can't stand. It's like he's literally in front of you. Do it now. I gotta wait next week. It's annoying as fuck. But outside of AEW, since we were kind of briefly going into backlash, what are your thoughts about it? Matter of fact, if you want to give me a lightning round of what you thought about every match at the pay per view, just lightning round, spit out you thought about every match at the pay-per-view, just lightning round, Spit out your highlights for each match, and then we'll kind of both do that that way as well.
Speaker 2:Let me see if I remember each match that happened. There wasn't a whole bunch.
Speaker 1:If you like, I'll go first.
Speaker 2:Well, if we're going in order, the Fatal 4-Way match number one, drew McIntyre is absolutely valid in everything that he says. I don't know why it had to be a Fatal 4-Way, like, like, but nonetheless, honestly, the match was okay. Oh, that's no bigs Damn.
Speaker 1:That's how you feel it was like nah, you didn't see the promo. He did no, I missed that then oh yeah, nah, motherfucker, drew back entire face. We did the oh, there's no breaks. And he looked like eyes. Bro, I posted it to facebook. Oh, he was clowning. Yes, oh yeah, I posted it to Facebook.
Speaker 2:Oh, he was clowning.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:I'll send it to you in a second. The first match was okay, especially going into it with everything that's kind of going on and stuff like that Everybody's cool. I feel as if. What's that man's name? Goddamn damien priest? I feel like is like in this weird space where it's just like he is unfortunately living up to the name of being a main event jobber right now.
Speaker 1:like he's I love his intro to his fucking thing. That shit's like cold bloody. I'm like, bro, this is the rawest motherfucker. This is the rawest motherfucker coming outside and then you see the lights and it's like, oh, it's Damien Priest damn he is.
Speaker 2:His entrance is a combination of Kanan Undertaker. He's got the fire and stuff like that in the beginning and then he goes with a little bit of the purple and stuff. But it's like he's, so I don't know. I like him, don't get me wrong. I like Damien Priest but I feel like Damien Priest has not found his place. He's like in this weird limbo of spots.
Speaker 1:How about Drew McIntyre almost set la night on fire?
Speaker 2:yeah, no, that was I fucks with it like yeah, wow hell.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love how uh la night is trying to be stone cold with how he cuts. Let me talk to you're not saying that that phrase is up, but like how he be just his verbal debates or his verbal giving his opponent the shit. It's very Stone Cold. Ask, and I'm like I see what you're doing there.
Speaker 2:I mean, listen, we've all known that he's been on this kind of like. See, you kind of got this Stone Cold slash, do the rock, you know cadence, but the thing is it's good he's actually good with it. It's one of those things like it's a comparison, but at heart he's not that. Yeah, but yeah overall and then them bringing in this. What's his name?
Speaker 1:Oh, that's Jeff Cobb and I.
Speaker 2:then I was like wait, jeff Cobb is Filipino, he's not fucking Samoan no, but him and him and Jacob got history, so like a lot of history like he looked like it was an ex-boyfriend.
Speaker 1:He meant like what the fuck you doing here, bro? I used to be that.
Speaker 2:I'm not that anymore I mean apparently speaking like, as far as like the look and the, the, the reference, kind of, because, like I said, him and jacob, they, they go deep. What I've come to see and learn, yeah, yeah, they do. But at the same time also I'm like, but why?
Speaker 1:But that whole match, that whole bit was a whole lot of but why's? For me, yeah, it showed. Because with the whole spot with Drew and Damien, it got them off screen, because it made everybody else focus on Jeff Cobb. And then two one of them might have got injured we don't know fully who it is yet, but one of them might have got injured from that spot.
Speaker 2:So there's that. I think the match after that was the females match.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Becky and Valkyrie.
Speaker 2:Yo Valkyrie was fighting her ass off last night. Fighting her ass off, she was fighting for her effing life, man, and it paid off. And considering what, considering how this feud started because it started off very weak, in my opinion the turn made her made it.
Speaker 1:It threw me off because how she was. Oh, what are you doing? And it's like bro, like okay, sell it. Like you're not selling it, like, what are you doing?
Speaker 2:Yeah, ms was fine, but this in comparison where the story was, the match made the story be like alright. I guess it was fine for it to be asked. However, it's not over, so we're going to see where it goes, but overall that was a really good match. Good shit, I will admit. Now, after that, what was it? Pat McAfee and Gunther was that the next one? Or was it Intercontinental Magic? I mean regardless the goal, if I'm going out of order.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it don't matter but regardless of going out of order, gunther and Pat McAfee, I hated it really. I hated it for what it kind of. I hated it for what it showed. The wrestling was fun, it wasn't bad. Pat McAfee wrestled his ass off and put on a good show, but that's not what I expected, that's not what I wanted. Then Michael Cole got involved. I'm like okay, alright. And it was like michael cole got involved. I'm like okay, all right. And it was like if michael cole got involved, pack mcafee should have just fucking won at that point when they did the grab the legs and yeah, that part did piss me off.
Speaker 2:It was kind of like normally when you do that spot it's done, yeah yeah, yeah, but but it didn't happen. And then for it to end with Gunther choking him, and then we waiting for Pat McAfee to get back to his feet and Gunther just be all like, not bad, and then leave. What are y'all doing?
Speaker 1:I will admit, I did kind of mark out a little bit whenever he was in the sleeper and he started getting up, I said, oh shit, we still got more of get. I did kind of mark out a little bit whenever he was in the sleeper and he started getting oh. I said, oh shit, we still got more of this match. We still got probably five more minutes. You know I'm winning. Come on Pat, come on Pat. And then he put his ass back down. I was like, ah, what was that for? Then he could have just blacked out. Why did you do that?
Speaker 2:Running Absolute trap. We are really out here. This is the ring general. This is one of those. Remember how Gunther was all like? You have my attention now. I'm going to beat you very, very, very badly.
Speaker 1:it really should have been bringing doing the whole thing.
Speaker 2:It's like you got a daughter and a wife just had a birthday and all this other stuff. Like why we bring up these things and make it sound like we're going to do some some goddamn Hangman, adam Page, esque, shit in the ring and don't deliver. Like like Gunther went out there and looked like Pat McAfee was almost, was almost, evenly matched like, yeah, I was gonna say it should have been a squash.
Speaker 1:It really should have been a squash, absolutely what are we doing with Gunther?
Speaker 2:Gunther is a monster of a man. I don't know man he might. What are we doing with Gunther? Gunther is a monster of a monster of a man.
Speaker 1:I don't know man, just like how we used to have the monster among men here and now he gone. Don't put monster next to motherfuckers now, cause apparently monsters are getting dropped wow, we really out here killing monsters.
Speaker 2:Huh, we really out here killing monsters yeah, bro, they're kaiju killers, they're power rangers oh god, kaiju fam, that is such a you saying that and putting and putting it next to power rangers, like, damn, that's really what they was, though they really was kaiju killers. For the greater good, though, but still.
Speaker 1:I'm not lying though.
Speaker 2:Fucking kaiju killers. I love it, I love that, but I just feel I don't like what they're doing to Gunther right now. I don't know if we're trying to humanize Gunther so he can like. I feel like as if, like, gunther was in the main event and then they've now like this match, like in my like, putting it like in a like in one of those like fighting game perspectives, he dropped two ranks.
Speaker 2:In my opinion, this is the ranking system okay yeah, even though he won the match, because he did win he, he lost, he lost xp, he lost points for this, because, like he's, it's like they're trying to push him into the main card scene now, like they brought him up and they're like, let me see how he looks here and I feel like someone's, like I don't like it. It can't know a US title. Just keep him down there, please.
Speaker 1:Put him back in the mid-card range.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you range. Yeah, let's let him get beat by Dominic Mysterio or something that's crazy. I know it fucking is going into that match. However, that was a good match. That was great, dominic.
Speaker 2:Mysterio and Penta won yes, dominic Mysterio andPenta one. Yes, dominic Mysterio and Penta. Everything about that match was perfect. Everything fits, everything made sense, unlike the last match I was talking about. And Penta's still strong and Dominic is still a dirtbag. Still strong, and Dominic is still a dirtbag, and so I'm. And then we also got the big Americans, so it's like we got everything, which, to me, pissed me off.
Speaker 1:I was like what the fuck are you doing here?
Speaker 2:remember, the big American wants to expose these luchadors, these, these matched vigilantes. Okay, so I was about to say, when you say luchadors, these masked vigilantes when you say luchador, technically Damien is not Damien.
Speaker 2:Excuse me, dominic is a luchador yes, he is a luchador, but he is on the right side of history, as they say. And so I'm interested to see. Because now I do know, because when you, uh, when we was on early he was asking what was on my phone, adam pierce was talking and uh, apparently penta and the big american are going to be facing each other on raw.
Speaker 1:So all over again. It's like his debut match again. Oh wait, no, that was with Chad Gable yeah, similar, but different people? Yeah, apparently.
Speaker 2:And then finally we got main event time so I've had the privilege of watching this match three times now not on purpose. So I watched Backlash. I was actually at a wrestling event I'll post pictures of it later yesterday but I was at a wrestling event and then, once the wrestling event was over, I turned on the phone and I was watching Backlash. So when I got back home, we just continued watching Backlash and then, as we're watching the main event, some of the wrestlers from the event were like hey, you want to come through and watch the rest of Backlash with us. We just started it over and we're all like sure we'll come through.
Speaker 2:And so by the time we got there, however, we watched the main event with them as well, because we're all like we're just there to hang out. We don't need to watch the show per se all over again. So we watched the main event again, and then afterwards, because I did not see the first match, when I came home and I was just doing stuff, you know, till the wee hours of the night, I put the show on again because I still didn't see the first match, which was with jacob fatu and all them and so I watched that, but I didn't turn it off, so I let it play through the whole show again.
Speaker 2:Therefore, I ended up watching the main event one more time. Now, I did not watch it all those times because I just loved it so much, if that's what you was thinking.
Speaker 1:Hold up, but it was a good fucking match, but it was a good match.
Speaker 2:It was a good match, but it was a good match. It was a good match. And then, unlike all of the matches prior, with an exception of the Intercontinental title match and everything, uh, okay, you said the IC title was the match of the night no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, not by a long shot so who was match of the night to you then match of the Night to you, then Match of the Night, ooh.
Speaker 2:On a pure wrestling perspective, I'd actually have to give it to the Intercontinental title match, because Lyra Valkyria was fighting her ass off.
Speaker 1:Oh, you mean the women's Intercontinental title match. Okay, you got to make sure it's two different ones on the same card. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:So when you said icy title, yeah, oh yeah, icy title Like Lyra Valkyria fighting her ass off. But the thing that I was getting at was, unlike all the other matches with the exception of dominic's match, the build-up and the story leading to it everyone else's were pretty garbage, except for dom's. And then going into the main event, the build-up for this one great, like the story that was kind of told and what they're, what they've now forced into our brains, pushing out the Dwayne Johnson narrative. Like with the story that they told and then the match that we got, I think we're finally where we need to be with John Cena. And now I know I personally can really start watching and just enjoying it and not feeling bitter.
Speaker 2:I'm a bitter ass, nigga. I'll be honest with you. That whole Dwayne Johnson shit, like as I, because I keep bringing it up you can tell like, no, I'm still mad about it. I'm still mad about it, you and everybody else, but I'm getting over it slowly but surely. We're else, but I'm getting over it Slowly but surely we're getting over it. I'm building the bridge. I got enough material After this last match. I got enough materials. We have the funding to pay for the workers. We can build this bridge and we can finally get over it, and so this match.
Speaker 1:I feel like you had that stored up and saved for just the rainy day, when that situation is convenient for you to bring that up. I feel like you stored that shit. No, not completely.
Speaker 2:Not completely. I'm pretty fast with it sometimes.
Speaker 1:Okay. But um you like that shit, right Good promo stuff.
Speaker 2:I've been working on it, but, um, the actual match. In regards to what, john, it was really interesting with this John Cena versus Randy Orton, this bad John Cena versus the, I would say, the pseudo good Randy Orton, because, at the end of the day and I love how they did this Randy Orton is-good Randy Orton because, at the end of the day and I love how they did this Randy Orton is still fucking Randy Orton Alright.
Speaker 1:Yes, he's not RKU. No matter who you are Like he.
Speaker 2:There was a point where it was like I think John Cena, yeah, in the very beginning of the match, john Cena had thumbed him in the eye and Randy Orton was like Bitch Jesus, that Bitch, that tickled me. It's not like right. It was like yeah, no, no, no, you don't get to play those games with me. I'm not Cody, I'll kick you in the skull, fuck you nuts.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I kick him in the dick, that's a dick, hey.
Speaker 2:And so now here's where.
Speaker 1:The bullshit comes. Alright, yeah, because that's what I'm about to hear, because that was a good fucking match overall. But just go ahead, give it to me Pause.
Speaker 2:Because I'm not blind to it and after seeing it two times the first time I felt differently, but after watching it a second time, I'm like, okay, guys, finishers don't mean shit anymore. No, they really don't. No, no, and it saddens me. Yeah, these false finishes and I'm talking like john cena, I think, on three, three or four separate literally gave him the attitude adjustment and pinned him immediately Three different times and he kicks out at two To proceed through the rest of the match. I'm just like come on to proceed through the rest of the match. I'm just like, come on. Like come on. And it's not like they were, like there was no rhyme or reason. No, like yay, nay, it just happened. It's just kick out it.
Speaker 1:Kick out it. You do have to remember that AA is a fisherman carry.
Speaker 2:Yes, but when? But just because listen, don't do that. I mean, that's not a reverse foul driver.
Speaker 1:If anything, rko. He RKO'd him like what? Four times in that match.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes.
Speaker 1:And didn't he? And it's an issue. I'm like Orton, weren't you gone forever for a while because you kept doing the RKO so much and you had to get back surgery stuff done and you just?
Speaker 2:See, that's not even the part that I'm thinking about, no, no, no, the part that I'm like the two most. I'm sorry, forgive me, I can't spell the three most devastating letters in sports entertainment, the most deadliest three letters to be right next to each other and John Cena kicked out of them like they were just swinging neck breakers Like breath.
Speaker 2:If they're deadly, either John Cena has built up an immunity to your venom, or maybe they're just not as deadly as they should be, and I hate it. Now one could argue that statement for both of them. They've been attitude adjusting and RKOing each other for what was it? 23 years now?
Speaker 1:Bro, you was not going to slide by this Venom crime. Hit, bro, that was a good one.
Speaker 2:And maybe I need to talk to a wrestler who believes in these false finishes to help it make sense to me. It's not being made sense to me right now and let it be known, prior to this, at first I thought, after watching it the first time, I felt like these false finishes were justified. Okay, that was me watching it with the rose-colored glasses of seeing a really good Randy Orton and John Cena match, all right. Then watching it the second time and then watching it that second time under the influence because we was partying, and it's like. This is like the third time. He did that to him and he went straight for the pin.
Speaker 2:It's a normal move, I feel in my mind, the only thing that would make it okay, which I can give some of the guys in AEW credit for, when we be doing these false finishes at least some of those guys, one of the famous ones that come to mind being the neighborhood Billy Goat himself at least he's got like four different finishers that he can do where it's all like he does one Damn, that didn't work. He does another one Well, damn, that didn't work. Well, I guess it's time to tiger drive him through the mat. There we go. That one did it and you know, at least we have that. But it's like we're just RKOing and just attitude adjusting.
Speaker 1:And then I was like how dare you?
Speaker 2:I don't even want to talk about it, no more. But aside from the false finishes and the fact that WWE is like biting AEW, even though they're not competition, but now we're going to just start doing stuff like AEW, because they're actually competition, but we want to see if we could do it better, which there's no doing fault multiple false, 15 false finishes is not doing it better. That's doing it just like the people who are not as good as you. Okay, but that's just me. But overall it was a solid B pick.
Speaker 1:Lightning round. For me I could definitely say Jacob Fatu match Really good start, a really great opening, high energy, great spots. I liked Damien and Drew's spot and again Jeff Cobb coming in. I was just like you. Better not tell me he's part of the bloodline, because fans will immediately be and we don't want to make this a racial thing or anything like that, or an ethnicity thing.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, it's okay, because the bloodline is everybody unless Jeff Cobbs is married into the family.
Speaker 1:He's not, he's nothing, he's not connected to the family. None, exactly, he's not, he's nothing, he's not connected to the family none exactly.
Speaker 2:That's why it's like it's okay, because what was it um sammy? Good example, that's not a good example.
Speaker 1:I mean he was brought into the family. Stop it not sammy.
Speaker 2:I'm talking Naomi. All right, blood wise. No, she's not Samoan. However, she is acknowledged as being part of the family because she's married into it, okay.
Speaker 1:Who is she married? Who is he married to Jacob? What the fuck? Who the fuck? I don't know. There's nobody, nobody. Who's married to? Who is Jeff married to?
Speaker 2:No, no, nobody was married to. Who is Jeff married to? No, no, where you gonna be busted right yo yo yo nah flag on the plane.
Speaker 1:bro nah flag. Flag on the play.
Speaker 2:bro Nah Flag on the play oh nah, bro, I'm gonna need you to take your foot off the gas and apply brakes real quick.
Speaker 1:Nah, you're not me, that's crazy damn all I was.
Speaker 2:I was not saying that he was part of the bloodline at all. The point that I was trying to make is the fact that, unless they was going to prove that he was a part of it, the fact that, unless they was going to prove that he was a part of it, the only thing that I'm seeing is happening right now. Oh gosh, you almost completely threw off my while I was trying to explain with that, with that spew of words that you just did. We did not.
Speaker 1:You didn't say it, that was you.
Speaker 2:No, no, because you're over. I'm going off the fact of when I'm talking about the you know cause. You're all like how is he in the bloodline, who is he married to? And like the three names that you rattled off were dudes. I'm like what are you trying to say? I only said one.
Speaker 1:I said who is it? Is it Jekyll? Like who the fuck is? Because when you said that, I'm thinking like, okay, who is he married to in the family? Because to my knowledge I didn't. Anyway, let's move past that. We had the moment, get to what you were trying to say at the end of the day.
Speaker 2:What I was saying is the fact that, like cause going off the whole deal with him, whether if he's being a part of the family I don't think he's a part of the family. If anything, I think he's about to be a hired gun to take out Jacob, because Solo's tired of Jacob doing what Jacob's been doing, cause, you know, jacob's been very defiant to the old. Yeah, I can say that he loves him, though Jacob's been doing Because you know Jacob's been very defiant to the old.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I can say that he said he loves him, though he said I love you, jacob.
Speaker 2:So he knows you too. Though he says that he also says the fact that, listen, I'm doing me right now and I don't need none of y'all's help, like they've been, which that that whole storyline has been a little weird and wishy-washy, but it's like they've been slowly, like jacob's, been like falling out of the fold here I don't like that, though, because it's like not saying he needs them, but it's like him solo is just another brawn hold on now. I don't think that that's a.
Speaker 1:It's a pretty heavy statement what I'm saying in a sense is like a big man out there. You know, unless you go put him in the title picture, which he's not gonna be cena and he's not gonna be jay right now. So it's like why separate him?
Speaker 2:separating because he? Because because it ultimately doesn't need him. He doesn't need him. It doesn't need the bloodline he's. He's bad on his own.
Speaker 1:They need him because without Jacob, who is the bloodline, it damn sure ain't solo right now, solo ain't got no fucking wins.
Speaker 2:He's taking the pins that's why we got Cobbs anyway.
Speaker 1:So match was okay, match was okay. Becky Lynch she's always been a great wrestler to me. She grows on me the more and more I watch her. And Valkyria, apparently I think she cracked her nose at the end or something like that, so she toughed that one out. Pure cinema, that match fight for her life pure cinema Gunther, Pat.
Speaker 1:I enjoyed the match. I did not like how Pat got up from the sleeper to break out, to not continue the match. I was like, oh cool, let's see what happens. But I want this last few minutes to be like a gunther be like and just go like in, like really hurt pat. I want it to be like pat like he like thumped him in the eye and that just like turned Gunther into the Hulk and he just violates that motherfucker.
Speaker 2:And that was actually another thing, because they had like this super extended thing at the end where they're standing there and they're all looking at each other and Michael Cole is standing next to Pat, like he's curling next to Goku, he's curling and with next to goku and and then what's his name is all like you're fine. And they stand the other, like, and then he leaves and then we focus on pat and michael cole and the ring just fucking diddle daddling, standing around because it's not like he won. But we focus so much on Pat McAfee and we watch Pat McAfee walk up the ramp and all this other stuff and it's just like, but why like? And then it was like that was it. We didn't even get Gunther to even explain his shit in the goddamn like after show. He's gone, like in my mind, I'm like because what I'm sitting here, I'm like all right, and and okay, pat mcafee turned around and gunther's going to attack now. No, no, okay, all right. So pat mcafee's rocking up the uh, the ramp and gunther blindsides him.
Speaker 2:No, that doesn't happen.
Speaker 1:None of that Jey Uso type shit where he leaves the arena and it comebacks and smacks him outside the head. None of that at all Listen.
Speaker 2:I'm with Listen all the way. I even stayed up extra late to watch, like the the freaking after show thing I'm like alright. Maybe like, while they're doing their little after show stuff and talking, they're gonna check on Pat McAfee and then Gunther's gonna get him. Oh, the show went off, so nothing's happened, so nothing happens. Nothing happens. Gunther just lets it After talking all that shit, not the Gunther just lets it after talking all that shit.
Speaker 1:Not the arms folded by guy, not the arms folded bro over here pouting and shit, good match, stupid outcome. That's what I'm gonna say. Good match, stupid outcome. Um, that's what I'm gonna say. Good match, stupid outcome. Penta and the Dominic. Uh, it's Penta all day, no matter what that blue, that blue, that blue was cold icy dripping.
Speaker 1:I don't need rock blue like that, but I was like I'm gonna need that blue mask, I'm gonna need that. So the match was great, goofy, outcome still kept everybody strong, made sense to the story. And then you get the John Cena and Orton match. I had a blast, honestly, out of the the dumpster fires of matches they've had previous years. This was one of the best ones, as much as the dumb finishes, the usage of the supers and the finishing moves. I really enjoyed this match, really enjoyed it. I was definitely taking on the ride. I was kind of mad, though. I kind of felt like at the end of the match when Cena was on the turnbuckle it was just going to show his next opponent. He was like and there's no one that's better than me, or something like that. He pulls up the belt. I'm thinking like somebody's music's about to hit I might rock lesnar or something like something and then like nope.
Speaker 1:So where you felt with the gunther situation that was me here, I was like so why did you do that, john? Did you just like wanted to get in your character a little bit more, or like I'm thinking?
Speaker 2:I think, with the whole stopping the music and stuff like that Listen, with him stopping the music, like that listen. I'm waiting for John Cena to come out there with just no music. That's what I'm waiting for. Like he come out there as the music starts to play and then he's like cut the music and then he walks out with no music, type thing. Now, granted, he'd be biting off my boy, Dolph Ziggler, a little bit, because Dolph Ziggler did that shit, but you know, it's all good.
Speaker 1:You remember that cat-dog thing that you stay here forever. I just cut it, cut the music. But overall, backlash was a fun ride for me and how crazy my yesterday was To watch that at the end of it all. It was a great spectacle, enjoyed myself and we'll see what happens next pay-per-view, but we've gone an hour deep in. I really want to dive into the actual questions that we normally have, because we'll talk about the wild weekend of wrestling and we probably missed some topics, in particular Some of the juicy ones. But I do want to also revisit certain topics we did from last week, so as of this week. I know you said you had to go back and re-advise your list did you change it?
Speaker 2:did you update it?
Speaker 1:I sure did okay, so what is it now?
Speaker 2:only only a little bit, just because, like because because I I went and I listened to a couple songs. I even tried to see if I could find out if there was anything else that I was missing. That should have been. And so, going from top to bottom, yeah, going from top to bottom, it's Kane Brood and then Shinsuke Beer, money being fourth place. But now my new fifth place is d malenko's wwe theme and then after d malenko's wwe thing is matt hardy v1.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay, those definitely had to be there. Okay, okay, and so chris van waal, os, oscar Goldust, big Show, christian Cage. And then wait, what's that?
Speaker 1:That's 11.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, so then yeah, so no, that's the top 10. Okay.
Speaker 1:Minus Christian Cage yeah.
Speaker 2:Yes, I think yeah.
Speaker 1:Christian Cage would be 11. Yeah, yes, I think yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, christian Cage, okay Okay. Yeah, that's because, because, because once again he was 10, but then those changes, and so it was like Yokozuna did get in there, but then Did you put it back in a 10?. No, he got bumped down Because yeah, damn. Wait, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. So, yeah, because of those other additions that I ended up putting in there, christian Cage got bumped down and Big Show barely made it himself, so like.
Speaker 2:Because because originally to to finish off like the last little bit. At least it would have been Christian Cage, then Ember Moon, then Yokozuna and then Test at the very bottom there, and so, but I think I think this, now how it is is, is the more solid like I don't think it gets.
Speaker 1:I don't think it changes from here sticking to the topic of music real quick, all right. And this technically is connecting me. It's technically not who's titantron growing up outside of kane, because I know, I know what the fuck he's about to say. Who's titantron to you was like yo, that shit's fire kane's was legitimate fire, you know that's.
Speaker 2:That's a weird, that's a odd thing because, like I didn't pay a whole lot of like because titantrons, as time went on, like stopped being cool and creative.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:I I'm only go ahead, sorry the most recent cool titan tron that I noticed and saw was brunson reed. Like, when brunson reed came back, is like he, because, like, like his titan tron is like it's him walking through a city on some king kong or godzilla type shit. I'm like that's dope, that's, that is solid yeah, but like the reason.
Speaker 1:the reason why I brought that up is because the Titan Tron is a is a lost relic of wrestling. You can look at a Titan Tron for a wrestler and it could tell you everything about them without having to tell your person, because God forbid. Now, if I go to a wrestling show Javon Evans, his name, that's it. So then a person who doesn't watch wrestling and you take them with you, they'll be like who the fuck is? Javon Evans, his name, that's it. So then a person who doesn't watch wrestling, you take them with you and they'll be like who the fuck is Javon Evans? The titantron will tell you everything you need to know, everything.
Speaker 2:It does. It did Because number one in a titantron. Usually you got a clear image of what the character looks like and kind of like them acting in their character. You would get their name and then you would also kind of get an idea of kind of like their theme, kind of like what they're about, what they do, and then you got clips of them doing their finishes and their signature moves.
Speaker 1:So you know when it happens in a fucking match, because half the people you don't know Boy like AEW could really benefit from some good titantrons. Bruh.
Speaker 2:Because, lord knows, but yeah, no, I really can't think. I mean honestly, if it ain't king favorite titantron might go to gold dust, because but the thing is, titantrons and the theme songs back then they went hand in hand, that's what I saying.
Speaker 1:I also just again wanted to go to a little bit of a nostalgia trip because that's just me, but I think the Titan Tron started becoming a relic after I want to say, the reality era. I think the reality era is when they started kind of going with just the name. Think, because did Daniel Bryan still have one? He did.
Speaker 2:Because, anybody knew after that I think anybody knew, coming from this, like now, what is because what is the reality era considered is that when daniel bryan won the. Okay, so that time frame, the mid in between 2011 and 2018.
Speaker 1:It's kind of when NXT started getting good Gotcha.
Speaker 2:Okay, so like 2014. 2013-2014.
Speaker 1:I can't. No, yeah, no, yeah okay, so like 2014.
Speaker 2:2013, 2014, Henry, Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, Ugh, I can't think of. Actually, when you say that, that actually really kind of puts a pin on it because, like, I'm thinking of people from that time and like trying to remember what their titantrons looked like and it's like they didn't have Like. Because, like now in my mind, remember what their titantrons looked like and it's like they didn't have like. Cause, like now in my mind, I'm thinking about other people's titantrons that I do remember. Like I remember Bobby Lashley had a dope titantron and clothes lining dropping dudes and all this other stuff.
Speaker 1:Like, he's been doing that for years. I give him that he's never stopped that time listen, it's stuck to it, so that's that.
Speaker 2:You got God do that. But like yeah, like Hmm, because titantrons now are kind of boring, I would say.
Speaker 1:One of them that was goaded was the hardy boys always oh, always, always, like you.
Speaker 2:You said that and I'm like looking at my top 10 list and trying. I'm looking at my top 10 list. I'm trying to remember the titantrons that went with them and some of them are like, like shinsuke nakamura, that there was no titant tron, like there was no clips of him doing his finish or anything like that. No beer, money. Titan tron was okay, from what I can remember yeah, it was dope d malinkos was dope because I had the bitch in the club it had, no, it had no.
Speaker 2:D malinko, it's just bitches you would have like quick flashes of his face. And there was, there is one clip of D Malenko like in a suit at the club in the video, and that was another thing, because it was like the time Tron used to give wrestlers that extra bit of personality that it gives that extra bit of personality that sometimes you don't't, you don't get to see like going back to like evolutions, titantron right, it was like you know the clips of them walking down the road with the suits on and stuff like that. They're getting out the planes, coming out the limo, and this than the other, and it's like the titantrons used to tell a story, used to used to quickly tell a story that you don't have enough time sometimes to tell in the ring yeah and that and that is the dying art.
Speaker 1:That is it, unfortunately. But as, just like we was making these lists, I was looking at something Titanron, like test Titanron was dope. You know, big boss man's Titanron was dope. To me it's kind of one of the reasons why I even did that trend for a little bit, where I was doing the Smackdown like Smackdown 2 entrances where I would walk just like them behind the green screen.
Speaker 2:I had so much fun doing those shits.
Speaker 1:It was like angle from angle from angle. I was like I gotta get the same exact walk. And because they all did the same walk, Smackdown 2.
Speaker 2:Oh man, I wanted to do more of them. Smackdown 2 oh man I wanted to do more of them. Smackdown 2 was such a cool game and then, like the story mode for smackdown 2, I would wish to go back to play smackdown 2 and do the story mode because it was like it felt like smackdown 2 the way 2 and do the story mode because it was like it felt smack like smackdown 2 the way that it played the story mode.
Speaker 2:It played the story mode like you was watching episodes of wrestling that, and also somewhat gmo too somewhat because there'd be times, because, like actually, yeah, a little bit, because there'd be times where you'll play, because, like damn Magic really said that it kind of did have that it had a small element of it, just because of the fact that, if you wanted to, you could play the other matches and you can simulate them, which is always the.
Speaker 1:You see the bar moving and shit like who the?
Speaker 2:fuck is gonna win.
Speaker 1:I've been trying to know that it'd be like it'd be like the rock versus like bully ray or something like that bubble ray, dudley, and you're like you know, fucking way to rock by the loose, oh shit that mess would be wild.
Speaker 2:Yes, oh man, that I forgot about that piece yeah, man that took me, that one took me back cause oh damn, ah see, oh gosh, that was a good, that was a fun game yeah, it was man it was. It's honestly not did that to me. Now I'm like now I'm about to turn on my PlayStation 5 and play the rest of the game.
Speaker 1:I might actually watch somebody play the Smackdown. I might actually watch somebody play the Smackdown versus Smackdown 2 story mode in general, because the best thing we always remember you stomping their ass out, just random. Stomping their ass out just random, just stomp out, just stomping them the fuck out. You know what's funny?
Speaker 2:because, like they're very so. Whenever I used to play, I always I'd always play as Kane on the game, but it was like, when I think back to like the story modes, when I said the fact that like it almost felt like he was playing and watching like a real episode of like smackdown or something, because there'd be times where your character won't be on the card for that night and your character won't have something or your character will have a match but there's no story for your character and because of you know the times back then, like because there was no talking in the game yeah, like so when they would do a promo, and it'd be just like that background music like the rock is cutting a promo, just like that background music Like the Rock is cutting a promo.
Speaker 1:And I will just be in your imagination. What was it?
Speaker 2:Bro, we just did that on time.
Speaker 1:oh my god oh, let me see, let me see let me see if I can find that shit? Oh my God.
Speaker 2:Oh man, yup, smackdown 2. Oh man, good stuff.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, absolutely but yes we say all that because, again, the original conversation was Titan Tron. Oh, also remember whenever somebody would get mad oh this, what?
Speaker 2:the fuck is this?
Speaker 1:Fam those graphics back then.
Speaker 2:Undefeated, Absolutely Undefeated, with the movements and everything. Oh man, Goes to show how much we goddamn played that shit right. Hold on, wait, wait wait.
Speaker 1:I that shit right. Hold on, wait, wait, wait. I think I think I follow it. Hold on, I think I follow it.
Speaker 2:It's whenever they have a conversation oh, oh yeah, with the backstage conversation yeah, and because the thing that I did that was like whenever they be on the mic and when they finished it hold on, wait, I see.
Speaker 1:I see Jeff Hardy's doing a promo right now. Huh huh, yo yeah, oh, wait, no.
Speaker 1:And then all of a sudden, somebody will run up to the ropes and get on the rope oh my god, yes, yes, peak wrestling right there, and I hate to be that nostalgic about it, but, man, it was just something about like they would take the storylines that's already going through and make you play through them again, which were really cool, because now you get to do it the way you wanted to do it again. That's why I say it feels like GMO, because you, while you have this narrative of what the story is, the triple A's did it. What about you, bitch um? You had those moments where you could kind of change this, the story like, okay, stone cold supposed to be coming, yes, but there was a title match and technically, you're, you're, you're you're. Your opponent is going to be harder because you're not supposed to win. But if you won, it was like, oh shit, you actually did it. Good fucking job. The story will alternate a little bit.
Speaker 2:We're still going to stay on program. That was actually you saying. That makes me actually go to no mercy, no mercy. I loved how.
Speaker 1:No mercy kind of did that where you know.
Speaker 2:But it get bad and shit. But like no Mercy, because it's funny, because I feel as if, like probably to this day I don't think I've probably ever seen like all of the possible different endings for different stories in no Mercy, because there were certain tracks where it'd be like you'll have a match and it'll literally say you can win or lose this match, depending on what happens when you win or lose will depend on this motherfucker right now.
Speaker 2:That motherfucker too cool bro, that's so goofy. I swear I messed up on my gear there you go.
Speaker 2:Depending on certain matches, depending on whether you win or lose will depend on which way the story goes. And then there are also certain matches where it's like, depending on whether if you win or lose will depend on which way the story goes. And then there are also certain spots where it will be like, depending on if you say yes to this person or no to this person, will depend on how the story goes, kind of thing. And I know back when I was playing the game playing the game it never registered to me about the fact, like huh, what the alternate ending choice would look like. Now, sometimes they still led to the same goal type thing.
Speaker 2:But it was like there's certain parts where it's like you can go this way or this way and then, depending on how you did or how it moved or how it changed, will depend on if you even get the title match or if the title match changes. And just thinking on that, one of the most memorable matches to me and hopefully I'm not fogging it up too badly, but it's a match that you have to win, and I also think this particular match, I want to say like when you fight this match that you have to win, and I also think this particular match. I want to say like when you fight this match, you unlock the character too, but you have to fight freaking cactus jack oh yeah, bro, because he kept reversing everything like you would grab him fuck off me.
Speaker 2:bitch Fail, cactus Jack, in that cage match. I vividly remember passing the controller back and forth, trying to beat them, because that's how we used to do things. If we were playing a single player game and both of us wanted to play, we would play up to a point where one gets stuck and it's like, if you lose, pass control to the other person, see if they can beat them.
Speaker 1:if they can't beat them, that's that's another, that is another relic of gaming. That is no longer a possibility now, because at the same time you know back in the day you used to hang out with your homie you'd be at the house. You spend the whole day doing that shit. Doing that now is so multiplayer. There's so many options of like, well, you on your other screen, or this, like there's the the land capability of playing a game like that, like even sonic adventures battle 2. Now I can just literally give you my Parsec and you can play from here. Alright, we're taking control. It's your turn. Go for me. It's not that nature of passing the controller and you know being in the same space, but yeah, it is a. It is a forgotten you bringing up.
Speaker 2:Bringing that up reminded me how there was a time where which actually, I think I honestly think and it's only just because I have not went back and played the game, but I think to this day I personally have never beaten Crazy Gadget no, you had to, it was never.
Speaker 1:Always just me. I personally have never beaten Crazy Gadget.
Speaker 2:No, you had to, it was never always just me so well, because I've never gone back to try and play it. I think actually would be the better thing to say Because, like once, you beat it because I always had it was always an E-rank. Say because, like once, you beat it because I I always had it was always an e-rank, because I remember you beat it and figured it out. And you actually you beat it and figured it out when I I literally I was going to sunday school and you weren't going, and so when I came back from Sunday because the night prior we were stuck and we couldn't figure it out, and by the time I came back home from Sunday school you was all like, bro, I figured it out and I beat it and we was able to progress through the rest of the game.
Speaker 2:But because I always had that saved memory card, anytime I would play the game, I just didn't have to worry about it. I just I just didn't have to play it and the and because, like then, after it was like the, the second thing you had to do was you have to do you have the rings, get a hundred rings, and then it was save the chow, which, when you have to save the chow. When you get to that very last part of the level where it's the weird puzzle, shit right, you don't have to do the puzzle, you just go to where the mystical melody box was and you would get it.
Speaker 1:and then, after the save the child, there was like the time trial was it time you had to beat it, you have to beat it in a certain time frame and then after that it's very hard mode and I I don't remember doing.
Speaker 2:I think I remember trying to do the time trial and I and I couldn't do it and I was like you know what? We're gonna save crazy gadget for last. There's so many other things that I could be doing and so I literally went and played the rest of the game and I never ended up getting all a's because I I just never consistently played it. Now, unfortunately, that memory card is gone. But yeah, like I, I never.
Speaker 1:I've personally never beat crazy gadget, because that's crazy maybe now it is possible that I may have, but I've only done it once if that was the case, because we we've done it a lot in our years where is we'll play a game or like watch the other person play the game? Because it's just sometimes just being in the, just hanging out with your homie. You know, I'm saying like these are still moments like you see me play chrono trigger so many fucking times now. It's damn near you damn near know how to play the game and you've never played the game.
Speaker 2:That's how you see me play that shit. Peak gaming can't seem like that no, not anymore.
Speaker 1:Unfortunately, that's your streaming. Going back to the original topic, are you just going with Hardy Wars or are you going with just Goldust?
Speaker 2:I think, honestly, goldust is the only one that really sticks out, just because of the theatrics of it all and all the things that you would see and how it looked and everything. Theatrics of it all and all the things that you were seeing, how it looked, and everything Like cause. I mean, brock Lesnar was also kind of cool, just which version, Because you got the when he first came in he, where he just the whole time and shit.
Speaker 1:Well, that was in there, but it was mostly him clotheslining the shit out of people or powerbombing the fuck out of Spike Dudley, which another? That is another conversation I'm going to have before we close it today. But Spike Dudley man, I think we had a brief conversation about this like Spike Dudley vs Mick Foley, who is the crazier son of a bitch in the sense of hey, listen, I want you to like literally throw me on concrete which they've both done.
Speaker 1:Like it's hard to say me on concrete which they've both done, They've both done Like.
Speaker 2:it's hard to say, but the thing is, I feel as if that they're probably both equally crazy. Actually I would. I think Mick Foley is equally crazy, but Spike Dudley it just looks like it hurts more.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it looks, because he ain't got no body, he just stick. Yeah, it's like Spike, Spike.
Speaker 2:Wow, oh God, sam Shit. Oh Lord Bro, calm down Anyway. But Spike, he like Spike, spike Dudley. He's like a pre-adolescent teenager is what he looks like even now, just with more facial hair. But it's like he looks like a small teenage kid, like a small teenage skater boy who just just to watch him be ragdolled is it just looks so bad and honestly, it might not even. It might just look worse than what it may actually feel sometimes.
Speaker 1:I don't know, man, that un-American moment. Where was it? Laurie Zinsalz, where they take Spike and they try to throw him on a fucking table but the back of his head hits the fucking table. That shit, bro. That's an annoying ass pain, like out of everything else, mick Foley, being thrown off a fucking cell, you know, being thrown on taxes. The back of your fucking skull, that's an annoying ass pain. While this is all consensual, even though we consensual to that, we gonna fight in the back. We fighting in the back Because, bro, how did you miss that whole fucking table, whole ass table.
Speaker 2:It looks he makes the person who is following his footsteps in that particular light and even then, yes, but Spike Dudley still makes it look like it hurts. Spike Dudley's just and I still think, because he's smaller than Darby Allen is Darby. He's smaller than Darby. Allin is Like Darby. He's small but like he's got a little more meat to him, as where Spike was literally mad tiny, like tossing a teenage child all around, but it's like Darby's trying to catch up, like he's trying. He's gone down that Mick Foley, that Mick Foley route type thing, but like I feel, I think I personally think Mick Foley, I think, has done worse or things, but because he's a whole lot of man like it as well as things, like you know, it hurts, but because he's just so big and he can take so much damage, it's hard to see it as where spike dudley do the same thing to spike do the same thing. Imagine spike dudley getting tossed off the cage by the Undertaker. That would look so much more deadly.
Speaker 1:I think he would actually flew in the crowd.
Speaker 2:Honestly because of how light he is.
Speaker 1:Like Mick, being a heavy guy actually probably saved his life Because he probably as he was being thrown like oh hell, no.
Speaker 2:Like Spike because he probably, as he was being thrown, like oh hell, no, like Spike Dudley, because of the type of how small he is, which is also the thing, is the main deal with him because he's so small and he's like probably like 150 pounds. These 200 300 pound dudes can toss that like it's nothing, so they have to. Actually 200, 300 pound dudes can toss that like it's nothing, so they have to actually hold back when it comes to throwing somebody like him. Otherwise you get them situations where you see them, they just and Spike misses the fucking table and lands.
Speaker 1:He probably land on the fucking barricade, for God's sakes. And he probably would be like fucking barricade, for God's sakes. And he probably would be like, oh my God, broken in half, guess what Spikes would probably do. Ah, ooh, get up. What the fuck?
Speaker 2:But there's also that fact where it's like because he's so small and he's not so heavy like you know how, how, like when you throw, like when you drop heavier things, they hit the ground harder yes so I feel as if it might be the same for him, where it's like he just looks like it hurts him more, but like maybe he's not hitting the ground as hard, since he doesn't gravity does not pull on him as hard as everybody else. Or maybe I'm just talking stupid, I don't know.
Speaker 1:But damn, that spike dudley makes it hurt yes, um, but I asked all that titantron wise because to me the best titantron was stone cold attitude era, like with the, the, the skeleton middle finger. You get the sergeant slaughter stunner where he flips and shit like all. All of that best goddamn titantron ever rousting strike and everything yes, everything about that titantron is pure fucking gold.
Speaker 1:Remember what we were just talking about. If you want to understand a wrestler, you look at that fucking titantron of Austin. All you're seeing is carnage. It's to the point where we already know the fucking song itself. The glass breaks. You know, it's your ass. You hear the glass, that's your ass. It's to the point now that my ADHD, having ass brain, it might be the tism too. I don't know what it is, but if I have any glass item in my hand, my what's those thoughts, the inclusive or intrusive thought is immediately because I want to hear that glass shot.
Speaker 2:See, going straight to destruction isn't what I do, but whenever I do hear, whenever I hear something, something shattering whether if it's some ceramic from the kitchen while I'm sitting at a restaurant for my food, or if it's just like I drive by and I run over some glass which happens from time to time and I hate it because I'm thinking I'm about to mess my tire up, but nonetheless, anytime I just hear it immediately is dun, dun, dun dun. That's the first thing I do, and only the real ones who I'm sitting with. They'll be all like see what you did there. Nah, it's also a good way to make new wrestling friends cause, like, if you're just somewhere in, like there is the sound of like glass breaking and you just do that, those first few chords of a stone cold steam song. Many times I've had people turn around like did you just? Did you just? Stone cold, steve austin?
Speaker 1:I'm like my god that's how memorable that song is and how wrestling music used to be. And I can't stand constantly doing that right now because I don't want to feel like I'm living in the past constantly. But what I'm saying is there's just certain things that were really effective in wrestling and I don't know if the production crew or somebody just said, hey, can we just stop putting too much energy in these things? Or like I don't know.
Speaker 1:It just makes the wrestler look over more than it's supposed to. Just put his fucking name up, man, it's just his fucking name should be good I don't think it's that, I think it's just more so.
Speaker 2:I feel there's a small hint of laziness. And then something that I've seen, or I've it's kind of sort of been like an ongoing thing when it comes to certain wrestling, is the fact, like the people who are putting everything together, they always have this consensus of all, like they don't care about that no more, or they don't remember that or they don't want to see that.
Speaker 2:There's so much of that that happens in the background that we don't be seeing. Because what was, I think, a good example of that was the thing that we all wanted Stone Cold versus Sting. I'm sorry, not Stone Cold versus Sting, however, that would have been a good match Stone Cold versus Sting. I'm sorry, not Stone Cold versus Sting, however, that would have been a good match. Undertaker versus Sting. When Sting came into the WWE, it has been famously noted the fact that both of them was all like hey, so can we run this with Taker, can I run this with Sting? And Vince was all like no one wants to see that dumb shit and it's like fuck, you mean, no one wants to see. That's literally what we've been wanting to see for since they both showed up on their separate brands Like that's all we wanted. Actually, we didn't want Triple H.
Speaker 1:We didn't want Seth Rollins, not in the slightest.
Speaker 2:We wanted the Deadman versus the Stinger and honestly, especially at the time, they would have still had an absolute banger of a match.
Speaker 1:It would have been great. But no, I'm also looking back at certain titantrons. Now I don't know he's showing in my glasses, I can see, but looking at like things like John Cena's fucking old titantrons, and I just remember there's always. It's the one that every time it used to hit for me is when it shows his necklace and it moves. Bro, when that shit came on, my God Woo.
Speaker 2:I don't have to actually go through and re-look at titantrons, but I also have to be careful, because sometimes I'll be looking at titantrons or I'll be listening to a theme song and I'm looking at a titantron like wait a second, it's not what it is, Because sometimes people be like making titantrons on. Youtube and they act all like, yeah, this is Shinsuke Nakamura's theme song with the titantron. I'm like, okay, this wasn't the titantron. Don't lie to me. Nope, don't lie to me. Stop that, stop Stop.
Speaker 1:Yeah, don't lie to me, stop that. Yeah, nah, that was definitely a thing. But outside of titantrons alone, music alone, the big, other big questions is I kind of wanted to lead this into next week stuff who let me pull the question back up is this Rudy Pooh, I'm sorry which era had the best mid card or underrated stars?
Speaker 2:the best, mmm, mmm, off the top of my head, literally just off the top of my head. I want to say, like the ruthless aggression going into the PG era, I want to say I can respect the ruthless aggression. I can respect that they had submit cards, that or you could honestly say the whole SmackDown roster during the PG era.
Speaker 1:Because they were all mid Ooh.
Speaker 2:Yes, not because they were mid, but that's SmackDown. Was the mid card? Not because they were mid, but that's just Smackdown. Was the mid card back in those days. I don't like it, trust me, because that's where all this this slander about the big gold comes from and what not. That I will not have any of talking down about. The big gold comes from and whatnot. That I will not have any of talking down about. The making it sound, making the big goal sound like no one cared about it. No, they did they did.
Speaker 1:But so you would say you particularly say that era yeah I'd probably say that one.
Speaker 2:It's a toss up.
Speaker 1:It's a toss up to Roofless and Attitude. I want to immediately say Attitude because you know that's me, but Roofless did have some great mid card. It did have a good mid card, especially because that was I think that was when V1 era Matt Hardy was and man, the computer screen, that's another titan. That's fucking fire, by the way, matt Hardy, matt Hardy with the Matt Facts, bro, the Matt Facts was everything. Oh man, matt Facts was fire um him and Shannon Moore.
Speaker 2:Uh, and then also Crash.
Speaker 1:Holly, which that was an era I do not remember. I think that facts were fire. I wish him and Shannon Moore, and then also Crash Holly, which that was an era I do not remember. I think that was around the time I wasn't able to watch wrestling because of my my parents I was staying with at the time.
Speaker 2:Crash Holly's theme song is underrated.
Speaker 1:I mean, it is hardcore Holly's Unless you're talking about when he was in V1, cause he well no.
Speaker 2:I'm more so thinking about like when Hardcore Holly and Crash Holly were together, and then I guess you could also say technically, when Hardcore Holly kinda like branched out, like that whole um, I that was almost on my top 10, because I love that fucking thing, bro lester, I'm gonna break your neck one thing that really got me too with that song is I remember, there you were that time that you hear like certain WWE theme songs in like commercials.
Speaker 1:Did you ever hear that?
Speaker 2:oh yeah the party boys theme song crash sometimes.
Speaker 1:Who's the other one?
Speaker 2:um, yes, steve Blackman yes, steve, it's funny because, like all those I would, I would hear those theme songs like on, like Cartoon Network, when I'm watching WB yeah, it was on with yugioh one time and I was like the fuck which goes to show the fact that, like, I actually want to have to look it up because, like I don't think jim johnson made those, but I think those were.
Speaker 2:like sometimes wwe would used to do the thing where they would just find, like these tracks that are just like out there, these free use, these free use tracks that are just out there, these free use tracks that are out there in the open.
Speaker 1:Like the Cactus Jack.
Speaker 2:one Damn I wasn't going to bring it up. Man and I hate that one wrestling game.
Speaker 1:we did not have the Cactus Jack theme song because they were like oh, it was PGR, Alright, so we know where that song is really from.
Speaker 2:We didn't know that, which makes me wonder if that's truly where it's from, or just so happily they used it. Or maybe they used that first.
Speaker 1:I don't know and I don't care. I remember actually watching it and I was like bro, this is, this is stuff that you would see in playboy, so what's wrong with it?
Speaker 2:and used to super advertised playboy so just only because we were bouncing, we're bouncing around on it, but like I don't even know from, oh, I ain't bouncing on shit but go ahead. Wow, I'm pausing.
Speaker 1:So the Cactus.
Speaker 2:Jack theme song is oddly connected and I did not realize how like well-known it was connected to this Like cause, especially going way back when when we were kids and you. You know we're fucking around on the internet and we're fucking around on the internet in spots where we're not supposed to be fucking around on, and then you find yourself on these websites and you're all like I'm not supposed to be looking at this but like that's all, because for me it was like a. It was one of those ones where it's like I stumbled upon it. I watched Mostly just because I was baffled at the fact that his song was playing. And then in my mind I'm like why did? Why did they use Cactus Jack's theme song for this? And, of course, at that time my ability to do research was piss poor, so it was like I couldn't find out why. Even today, I actually have never looked back to see.
Speaker 1:Nobody really knows, bro. I don't think it's one of those things that somebody tells you like oh yeah, we used it because we fucking can.
Speaker 2:That's what I feel, and then, of course, at the time of when I'm sure most of us discovered this, it's like. It's not like we can just go somewhere and talk to our friends about it, be like. Hey, so like.
Speaker 2:So I was sneaking around watching the other night on the on the family computer, you mean corn you eating corn, yes, corn and uh, I found this video of this chick, you know, doing things and it was playing cactus jack's theme song like yeah, you would probably get considered lame or weirdo for bringing up the conversation with your boys correct. Therefore, it's like. It's not until like the more recent times, like in the like as you get older. It's all like.
Speaker 1:So I'm not the only one who saw that too, and then the final basketball controversy on it the issue is WWE effed up by letting it be known because I don't. I never knew that, I never knew it. Don't think I ever stumbled upon it. Nobody knew it. If you knew it and said, hey, we're not gonna use this theme song in this game because we found that it was this.
Speaker 2:And it was like fans like wait, what we didn't know, oh, it is well thank you for letting us know it's funny because that's one of those things where it's all like WWE found out about it and then they had to make a big deal about it.
Speaker 1:Yep snitched on themselves.
Speaker 2:And then it's like people like me, who knew about it for years, were all like okay, now it's alright to come out and say oh yeah, I've seen that, I've been through that, that's old news, dawg, what are you?
Speaker 1:talking about Yo, not you, being like, oh y'all didn't know Literally, so y'all didn't know.
Speaker 2:I got the video saved.
Speaker 1:The video saved is crazy. The video saved.
Speaker 2:I don't. However, I have thought about going back trying to find it to save it. Just because of the fact of what it is, oh, as a lost relic as I bring up again, listen there are things that are slowly disappearing on the internet nowadays.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying. They're slowly deleting the internet. That's just me. Listen, it's the truth. Listen, I might sound a little tinfoil hattie on that one, but I got homies and I got friends who can back me up on the fact that there are things that used to exist, that are slowly no longer existing and becoming lost media so give me a, give me an example before we head out well, like, like certain cartoons and stuff like that or that or or like old youtube videos from the golden age of YouTube have been like, slowly disappearing.
Speaker 2:Like of like old, you know, of old memes, before memes was given the name you know what I'm saying, like your shoot the whoops your, uh, I ain't know we had seeing the mean toe crunch. I ain't know we had, you could say stuff like that, but that's also a little bit more niche, but like on a brand on a grander scale like your uh, your YouTube poops, your over 9,000.
Speaker 1:Oh, my God man.
Speaker 2:This is Sparta remixes. Uh, are we allowed to talk about the bear? Because, you know, since there's certain words, the other P word oh no.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that one's gone. Yeah, However, it's funny thinking back on that because one of those things was like man, that was just such a different time because it was a joke to have that brown bear with the black eyes. People used to put it on their cars. I've seen bumper stickers of this bear, like, but it was funny to watch at the. I mean, yeah, it was funny to watch at the time when they were just like making the bear run as like, yes, that those kind of those kind of things are taken off of youtube apparently, like they're slowly like just disappearing where you can't find them.
Speaker 1:It's crazy I literally looked it up right now listen.
Speaker 2:Youtube poop was a was a great time to be alive like it's a. It was a very particular type of, and it's just interesting to see how internet humor has evolved in that particular sense in an all-around bit.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, man, I'm like few seconds in and I'm like watching the clip.
Speaker 1:This random segue, oh man but we're just talking about in general, just the, the things that we are familiar with from back in the day, and originally the conversation was supposedly about the mid-car who's, who's the under the underrated mid-card that we are familiar with, because next week I want to kind of dive into wrestlers that you know, we feel like we're underrated, not really recognized as much, but they were really holding down the freaking fort, uh, just like how the same team malenko earlier I I know all about that, all about that kind of stuff which, just just just as showing another one of my DZ shirts that I've had here, I'm going through the lineup right now, so I'm probably going to wear my blue one.
Speaker 1:Bring it on, but I can't dare what you want to. That, to me, is a better theme song. So, guys, if you've been here all of the episode, we definitely appreciate you as always, as just two guys who shoot the shit, talk about wrestling the things that we love, the things that we enjoy, and I should just give you pieces of us, but with every episode had me out here talking so hard I forgot I was eating this burrito damn um, but with every episode there is always going to be destruction, because it is the Big Brothers of Destruction podcast.
Speaker 1:Be sure to like the video. Matter of fact, super kick the fucking video if you want to. I don't give a damn. You can Stone Cold, stunner it, do whatever you like to, but definitely hit the like button if you enjoyed the video, please share and with that black hole. Slam buddy Brother. Did you get this video? I sent you of that.
Speaker 2:Oh yes, anytime someone's. I actually really love the fact that people know how much I love Abyss. So there will be times where I'll just be doing something and I'll just get randomly tagged in an Abyss video. I'm like thank you so much and I'll just get randomly tagged in an abyss video. I'm like.
Speaker 1:Thank you so much, but yes, also, if you're on our Facebook, our Instagram, as well as our social medias, please do be sure to like those as well, as we will be back here next Monday with another episode and hot topic of the week, so till next time, it's the Masako.
Speaker 2:It's your boy Swag Switch about to get down on this burrito Pause.
Speaker 1:Nah, that's okay. That's okay, we're out, guys. Peace.