The Voices of Wrestlings

Ever wonder what makes wrestling feel so electric when you're watching from home? The secret might be the voices guiding you through every slam, submission, and storyline. In this deep-dive episode, we explore how commentators transform wrestling from athletic exhibition into captivating drama.

The pandemic era taught us something profound about wrestling - when crowd reactions disappeared, commentary became our emotional anchor to the matches. Without those passionate voices narrating the action, something essential was missing. As one host explains, "If you ever tried to sit there and watch wrestling on mute, it would be crazy because it just doesn't work."

We tackle the fascinating contrast between WWE and AEW's commentary approaches. WWE commentators like Michael Cole and Pat McAfee excel at entertainment and storytelling, while AEW's team focuses more intensely on in-ring technique. This mirrors the larger philosophical differences between the promotions - WWE showcases entertainers while AEW highlights wrestlers.

The heart of our discussion centers around building a definitive top 10 list of wrestling commentators. Names like Mauro Ranallo, Jim Ross, Joey Styles, and Mike Tenay spark passionate debate about what makes a commentator truly great. Is it their catch phrases? Their technical knowledge? Or perhaps their chemistry with partners?

Speaking of chemistry, we imagine dream commentary pairings across eras and promotions. What if Joey Styles and Mauro Ranallo called an AEW pay-per-view together? We theorize they'd "kill themselves halfway through from sensory overload with the wrestling." Some combinations would create perfect harmony, while others would generate fascinating friction.

Whether you're a longtime fan or new to wrestling, you'll gain a fresh appreciation for the voices that have shaped our collective wrestling memories. These aren't just people talking about what we can already see - they're storytellers transforming athletic performances into emotional journeys.

Join us next week when we'll tackle wrestling's most memorable catchphrases - the signature lines that turned wrestlers into icons!

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Chapters

• 0:00 Introduction to Commentary in Wrestling
• 10:23 The Value of Wrestling Commentary
• 21:48 AEW vs WWE: Different Commentary Approaches
• 34:51 Building the Top 10 Commentators List
• 1:06:40 Dream Commentary Teams
• 1:26:14 This Week in Wrestling News
• 2:05:19 Looking Ahead to Next Episode

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:09

Hello again, everyone, to another episode of the Big Brothers of Destruction podcast, where the ring is sacred, but the podcast is nothing but destruction. Okay, nothing but destruction. And that's what we're here to do. Is this honestly talk, not so much in a destructive man, a destructive manner, because today's topic is something I find very dear to me as, while I enjoy watching live shows, I enjoy going to a live show every once in a while but there's just something about when you go to a show and you can't hear the voices that you're so used to hearing when you're on tv. It kind of takes the element out for me.

Speaker 1: 0:52

But what I want to take a moment is to champion the voices of wrestling, the people that we listen to day in and day out, that tell us these stories, that tell us the background of these characters, that get us invested. They drive us in just a little bit more than the actual rest of themselves, and those are your commentators. The commentators are the individuals that are again telling the story of the show, getting you invested into the characters. I remember jim cornett. I keep bringing this up. These are the people that buy you into why you need to watch this, and I was able to challenge my brother here into creating a top 10, and we're going to do it live. Rather than having us do the research, having us do all that in the moment uh, outside of the podcast I want to do it in the moment and challenge him to see if he can create his top 10 commentators of all time. So swag, before we get into it. How do you feel the realm of what? How do you feel? Commentary in wrestling enhances the story, enhances the matches.

Speaker 2: 2:11

So, as somebody who frequently goes to indie shows that are locally around the Orlando area and, of course, being such a frequent watcher of wrestling um, especially since we've done the podcast like I have, I have now figured out how I can get allwe tna like I'm absorbing, I'm just eating it and what helps, especially when there's like kind of low points or it's like man something feels like it's dragging. The commentary keeps everything together and a good prime example of how, like when something like the commentary can make or break a show or make or break a match to a certain degree, because of how commentary works and what it's supposed to do. If you have the right people doing it, it's great. But my, my current great example of that is and I talked about it last week when this whole situation going on with chad gable and, uh, the big american, yeah, yeah, michael cole and um pat mcafee's just back and forth banter as like Michael Cole is all like I'm not going to like feed foolishness because it's stupid. They're the same person and the whole time he's all like Michael Cole. I don't know how many times I have to tell you they are two separate people, they're two different people, like they're not the same person. I don't know why you're so fixated on chad cable being the big american, when they're they're literally two different people. I I don't know what to tell you. Like you need to let it go. And I'm talking consistently like it's hilarious, but it's stuff like that that just like man it when you're watching it on tv.

Speaker 2: 4:25

It just makes it that much more entertaining because, like when you watch wrestling in person though you don't have the commentary it's the excitement of everything that's like going on around you and just the energy that you feel from the crowd erupting and like the big pop and stand there fucking eating and all this other stuff. Like it is all of those things put together. It's it's like watching an interactive movie at like a movie theater. You know what I'm saying because you're in the stands, you're watching this thing, but and this thing is happening like how a movie does. It's just that in wrestling, unlike in a movie, the Captain America who is in the ring could point at you, or that the bad guy will actually come out of the ring and act like he's going to beat your ass, but gets stopped and someone pulls him away and then they go back like it's, because it's the interaction, and so for us people who are at home, who can't get that interaction, we have the commentators to feed us what we need and I could not imagine sitting here watching wrestling without commentators.

Speaker 2: 5:52

Like, if you ever like to sit there to watch wrestling on mute would be crazy Because it just doesn't work. Yeah, you can enjoy it. I will say what I probably could watch on mute, and not saying because I want to, but because of the things that do happen, I could probably watch an AEW pay-per-view on mute, and I'm saying that as a compliment. Pay-per-view on mute, and I'm saying that as a compliment Because an AEW pay-per-view is so unnecessarily hype for every single goddamn match to make up for the possible and normal bullshit that happens during the week. Not saying they haven't because they've been doing really good, like literally for the past month right now.

Speaker 2: 6:45

Tony, storm could do no wrong, but go ahead but like um, but it's like aew because they're like strictly on pure action. Like that's the only reason why I say you could probably watch it on me, which I'll bring it up later. But like, I think I've kind of had like a little revelation about AEW versus like literally every other wrestling company that I'm watching hold up in real time.

Speaker 1: 7:14

Are you kind of telling me you're about to give AEW more praise?

Speaker 2: 7:19

it's not. I won't say that it's praise, but it's more so it's one of those things where it's like, once I've kind of made this understanding, it has allowed me to digest AEW just a little bit differently because you have to, and Will Ospreay is the one who has kind of sort of like made me really look at what he meant when he says this, and Will Ospreay not to go fully into the week of wrestling, but Will Ospreay made the statement of saying AEW is the place where the best wrestlers in the world exist or live, not quoting them verbatim.

Speaker 2: 8:08

That's pretty much what he said. The best wrestlers in the world live at AEW, mm-hmm. And when you look at that statement at face value, it's almost hard to disagree with him with what he's saying. Aew, I think, does have the best wrestlers in the world currently because you can watch AEW and from a wrestling standpoint, you there's. It's impossible to knock them Alright Purely On Wrestling Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Now, this week aside Because AEW was on one, but usually pure wrestling and almost a wrestling only is the reasons why I lock in on AEW, cause the other bullshit they be doing hit or miss, and it mostly misses WWE.

Speaker 2: 9:30

However, wwe has the best entertainers in the world and that causes for two different kinds of TV and and that causes for two different kinds of tv. And that is my revelation of understanding why I love watching wwe and I sometimes tolerate aew, aew, because where AEW fails to entertain, at least their wrestling is a thousand percent solid, as where in WWE sometimes and I'm not going to say any names but sometimes the wrestling gets a little booty. But sometimes the wrestling gets a little booty. Okay, okay, okay. But the backstage promos, the stuff that happens throughout the night, locked in.

Speaker 2: 10:38

To the point where I would almost, you could almost say with WWE, you watch the backstage stuff and if you really want to, you fast forward through the wrestling In TNA I'm sorry, in AEW. You fast forward through the backstage stuff because it's stupid most of the times, yo, but you watch the wrestling, yo, it's so true, it's so true, it's so true.

Speaker 1: 11:06

And that is actually factual, bro, because AEW's backstage antics often, unless it's Hangman, adam Page and Swerve and the Hurt Syndicate those are the only two things backstage. I'm trying to see what's going on, right, but like they really don't have any good things that you can catch backstage, that pulls you in. But wwe is really great at storytelling. The matches, just like you said, can be booty sometimes. Like no offense. I and this is I'm gonna segue to this we're going right back into it, like the match between john cena and our truth. Right, I don't want to call it booty, but it wasn't great. It wasn't the wrestling you would want to see. It's like, okay, this is a comedy match. Or like, uh, this is just just for like this is, this is a match that should be on a live show. This should not be at a pay-per-view right now. Do it for the crowd. That time CM Punk came down in a towel. He's getting out of the shower. This is a one-off moment. Do that at a live show, don't do that right here.

Speaker 2: 12:19

The match itself was indeed a throwaway match, but the story and the build-up to the match worth watching.

Speaker 1: 12:28

Yes, like R-Truth would never win the title, but like for 15 minutes I'll believe it. You know I'll believe it. Every kick-out tweet, oh knowing damn well, like that ain't gonna happen. I know you're saying all this to kind of kind of even compare the voices of wrestling, how they kind of tell the story. So to you you obviously feel like commentary is a very vocal point in watching wrestling. Like if you just watched it on mute you can't really get as invested into it as you would if you were, um, watching it live and no commentary right, exactly because, like, you take away that.

Speaker 2: 13:16

And then because when you watch it on mute it's like you take, you take away the reactions of the crowd and the commentary.

Speaker 2: 13:25

Then it's like oh, which goes back to why it was difficult when the pandemic was happening, because we got the opposite, where we did not have the reaction of the crowd and we just had the commentary.

Speaker 2: 13:48

And it goes to show it's a hand-in-hand thing for the most part. Like I mean it, like you can kind of do without one in the other, but depends on where you're at, because from home, not hearing the reaction of the crowd but hearing the commentary, it it felt like there was something missing. Of course we couldn't. And of course, being in a building where wrestling is happening and there is no crowd and no commentary, which the closest to anything like that is when I'm like would go to wrestling training or when I used to train for wrestling and stuff like that, that's the like you know would go to like wrestling training or kind of like when I used to train for wrestling and stuff like that, that's the closest that I ever got and it's like even then we're still being the crowd for the wrestlers it'll be. It'd be so weird if we just all stood around the ring and did not react to anything that they was doing.

Speaker 1: 14:45

You, mean like the New Japan crowd. Sometimes Part of the reason is why.

Speaker 2: 14:54

Nothing wrong with that. It's not wrong with. There's nothing wrong with it. However, it is because they're just a different culture. For me, it's like when I watch new japan, like if I don't understand the announcers, man, that's tough for me to watch because it's like the crowd's not reacting or barely uh, they'll react off of like three things and there's like I don't know what they're saying. So commentary might as well be off is just like. I mean, at least this match kind of looks cool, but, like man, I wish I had a little more. I wish I had something. Commentary gives you something it definitely does.

Speaker 1: 15:40

It definitely gives you something that you normally wouldn't get in any other environment and it's kind of. It's to the point where, as a wrestling fan, I'm going to sound weird, but sometimes, unless it's obviously in Orlando, I'm not going to say no to it, but like I probably not gonna go and just watch it live, that watch at home, because it's something about the commentary that still pulls me in and I sometimes my brain can't justify driving three to four hours for a show, unless it's john cena. Like if john cena's coming to town for the tampa show, if I had the funds for it I'm going to it. But you know my wallet work right now I don't worry like that. I don't worry like that. But I say all this has Nah, man, it's just bro, this is the last run. I need to be in the no Also, by the way, kudos to R-Truth real quick when he did this shit, when he was doing the intro, and you know when he does the in any weather I'm never better.

Speaker 1: 16:47

Your boy is so hot, you know. Like at that part he does the R-Truth killed that shit. I was like bro, he did the entrance to the T. I was like let's go R-Truth. He hit that motherfucking shit. I was so hyped, bro, I literally ugh. I had a moment, but my man did it. You can say whatever you want to about me being the kiss ass of John Cedar. I'll give a damn, but he did that shit listen he did that motherfucking shit.

Speaker 2: 17:25

I mean, at this point in the game, it's a given. You've always been a John Cena rider, bro, even through the worst of times. Yes, he was. He was part of the group of kids that would always say let's go, cena, that's, that's, that's your boy, right there yeah, that's all give a, and jocelyn was that cool mr maziku, number one fan in the c nation first off.

Speaker 1: 17:55

First off, not number one fan, because I'm number one fan of the, the pizza that I'm number one fan that all day, every day all day, every day.

Speaker 2: 18:04

See, the viewers don't know you as long as I have. Before there was Penta, there was John Cena.

Speaker 1: 18:15

I mean, yes, there was definitely John Cena and I ain't got no shame in the game, no shame in the game. I know what I was doing, doing and I'm okay with that, perfectly content with that. But say all that to say the people, the voices that we know in wrestling are the very, they're very important in that nature. So I, I wanted to bring up or ask do you have, before we kind of get to the list, do you have a favorite commentator of all time and you're hanging?

Speaker 2: 18:54

It just pops up Just to give the audience an idea, what, what could they expect out of this biased Honestly, I still think, because I brought him up last time, but I think of all time and, granted, if I the only ways I'm going to be able to hear him now is I got like I got to watch fucking boxing and shit, but like Mauro Ronaldo, like he is, he was way too good.

Speaker 2: 19:23

He was way too good for what he was and it kills me that JBL chased him away.

Speaker 2: 19:34

Like if he, outside of the issues that he had with JBL and I don't know if he had any issues with Vince McMahon specifically, but like I feel that if he had any issues like with Vince McMahon specifically, but like I feel I feel that like if he would have stayed and he wasn't and he didn't have like these you know these personal mental problems that he had, like with depression and all this other stuff, cause you know he's he was very open about the fact that you know he suffers from these particular mental illnesses and stuff it's like if it wasn't for the fact of those type of things, kind of sort of like, you know, holding him in a certain you know, in a certain likeness, in a certain way, like I would have absolutely wished, but it's like I don't know who he would be with, especially in WWE right now, like I would have.

Speaker 2: 20:28

Like. Like him and wade barrett would sound amazing together kind of thing. Like him and michael cole would be great. But I think it'd be too much and because of the type of that michael cole is like, he's the it's like him and Michael Cole being together would be like having two JRs.

Speaker 1: 20:48

You know what I'm saying? Yes, yes, yes, yes, but I mean. But here's the thing Michael Cole could be a heel commentator too. He's done it before.

Speaker 2: 20:57

Yes, but no.

Speaker 1: 21:02

You would prefer not. You prefer him as. But no, you would prefer not. You prefer him as, absolutely.

Speaker 2: 21:05

Like, honestly, I would take I think Mauro Ronaldo and Pat McAfee, they'd be amazing together. You would not turn off the TV, Absolutely not. They would be those two would be those chefs, kiss.

Speaker 2: 21:27

Like I wish that I could hear that kind of thing. And so just, I loved his voice, I loved his enthusiasm and excitement, and he was so fucking quick with it. Like he would have, he would like come out and say certain things that were like, like he's made, I'd have to look back, because I I did not specifically like look back at his stuff, but there'd be certain times where he'll make a comment I'm like what the hell you know about that stuff, brother, since when brother told you about that, that information you ain't about that life, stop it he was so good he's still good, he's just not in wrestling, he's in boxing and it's interesting you say that because, like normally, most wrestling fans from our era are going to pick a JR and a king Right Me not necessarily the case.

Speaker 1: 22:31

I'm going to pick Joey Styles, obviously because, being an ECW guy, I got to give credit to a guy who was able to play both both sides of the coin coin being the color commentator, you know, in certain moments, and then being the play-by-play.

Speaker 1: 22:49

And there is not an ecw fan in this world who, uh, jr is bar god and he's broken in half. Joey styles had oh my god, and anytime he said it you knew whatever the hell just happened was insane. So for joey to be such a cool commentator for me it kind of felt like whenever I was listening to him or watching, obviously, the show, the product, it was like having that one friend who was here right next to you watching it and you know how we always shoot the shit at the screen. He's shooting the shit at the screen and you just listen to him like this fucking guy. That's how Joey Styles commentary felt like to me and, honestly, if you think about it in that light, a lot of commentary is like that in general that makes sense, that's fair, but like yeah, cause I mean overall commentary is like the driving force of the show when you're watching outside of wrestling yes, it's like oh yeah, cause.

Speaker 2: 24:03

Well, honestly, when you say outside of wrestling, well, I was well. Now, actually, no, let me back up. Why do you say? What do you mean by outside of wrestling?

Speaker 1: 24:13

so outside of the actual like the wrestling itself is obviously the reason why we're watching, oh like, yeah, outside of just the wrestling itself okay, I'm thinking you're meaning outside of wrestling company commentary. No, no, no, no. It's outside of wrestling itself. If you take the wrestling away, obviously there's no need for commentary. The main thing we're here for is the wrestling. The commentary is like the cake is wrestling, the commentary is the frosting.

Speaker 2: 24:43

Like that freaking Publix cream cheese frosting the best.

Speaker 1: 24:48

The specific brand is crazy, bro, have you not had Publix K? Oh yeah. No, I'm just saying the specific brand. You're just like Publix over everything. Yeah, when it comes to them. Tenders, yes, now if if they want to sponsor us in the future, I'll eat some of them. Tenders right on on cam. Be like look, public's deli tenders listen.

Speaker 2: 25:17

If the, if the, if that one guy forget his name, but he's like the, the local florida man on tiktok if you ain't got sponsored by Publix, nobody's getting sponsored by Publix especially because it's like not being a Florida thing, but us being in Florida, yeah, yeah he represents Publix, beyond this small little shout that we've done and Publix ain't did nothing for him yet.

Speaker 2: 25:43

So it's like I I don't want little shout that we've done and Publix ain't did nothing for him yet. So I was like I don't want to think that, although you doing that just reminded me.

Speaker 1: 25:55

I didn't say nothing.

Speaker 2: 25:57

Okay, but you rubbing your arm and doing that reminded me, which I'll talk to you about it after. But like I finally watched Sinners oh, I finally watched.

Speaker 1: 26:05

Sinners. Oh, you finally watched Sinners. Let's fucking go. Alright, we definitely gotta talk about that, alright? So, um, but get me back into commentary, right? So you have me as Joey Styles, you as Maul Renaro, and with this list I want you to. When I bring up each person, I'm going to randomize it. Right, it gave me up from 1 to 20. I'm just going to randomize the names and if you want to write it out on your phone where you want to place them or whatever, that's cool, but I'm giving you a chance to at least process who it is, and then I'm gonna go to the next one. Okay, so, okay. So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna have you, I'm gonna tell you the name and then you're gonna say from one to ten. You're gonna say ten, right, and then you're gonna say five or three or one, whatever you want to put it right. So, first one Kevin Kelly.

Speaker 2: 27:10

Kevin Kelly. I'm trying to know who that is.

Speaker 1: 27:13

He was in WWE as one of the guys backstage who did interviews. He went to Ring of Honor at one point and then he is now one of the voices of New Japan. He started off in WWE eons ago.

Speaker 2: 27:27

Okay, I recognize the name, but he did commentary.

Speaker 1: 27:33

He does commentary now. He never did it for WWE, maybe on a heat or something.

Speaker 2: 27:41

Then he has to go at 10 because I don't don't watch enough new japan to have heard him if he's over there no, no, you don't have to put him because, again, this is going from a 20, so it doesn't have to be.

Speaker 1: 27:53

You could be like no, I don't want to put that on because we got 20 people we're going to go through. So you could be like, oh, no, not at all, move on, gotcha, gotcha. So then, yes, keep it pushing, okay, keep pushing, alright. William Regal. Yeah, keep it pushing, keep it pushing, okay. Corey Graves yeah, I'm gonna keep pushing.

Speaker 2: 28:20

Damn, I ain't gonna lie to you. Like when Corey Graves first started announcing, I didn't give a fuck about. No Corey Graves, that's an announcer. The only reason why I've given Corey Graves a little bit of a chance is because he's with Carmella and I care about her. So if she cares about him, I guess I'll give him a fucking chance. Carmella leaves him, ditching him.

Speaker 1: 28:45

Carmela leaves them digital, exactly. That is crazy. Okay, but I will say this much Um, I will agree with some of the that you said. Keep pushing. Even though Kevin Kelly, I do like him as a commentator I'm not a, I'm not even gonna front with that I do like him as a commentator. I don't know if I can say he's my top 10, yet I can't, I can't, I'll have to revise it, but he's definitely got a solid standing where he is. He is definitely a good commentator. This one, I'm not too sure if I'm familiar with it, or maybe you, tom Phillips.

Speaker 2: 29:23

Tom Phillips. I can't remember where he. I know the name, I remember the name. I can't place my mind on his voice off the top of my head right now.

Speaker 1: 29:37

Where did it say that I think he was. He didn't say where he was from, but it said Tom Haffen is his actual name but I guess known as Tom Phillips Tom.

Speaker 2: 29:48

Phillips, Jesus. Who is this motherfucker?

Speaker 1: 29:50

I mean, you pull him up, you go to him real quick.

Speaker 2: 29:53

I mean I'm not going to, we're just going next. Keep pushing.

Speaker 1: 29:55

Okay, next, all right. Next, Keep pushing, all right. Let me see, here we got Wade Barrett. Wade Barrett.

Speaker 2: 30:04

Wade Barrett. He's definitely mmm, mmm. Because I have an idea of like a bunch of announcers that I know that I do like I'm gonna put Wade Barrett at 10.

Speaker 1: 30:22

Wade Barrett at 10. Alright, so Wade at 10. Wade Barrett at 10. All right, so Wade at 10. For me, I'm going to keep it pushing for. Right now, wade Barrett is great. I just really wish he had had a longer run as a competitor. I just really wish he had had a longer run as a competitor, like I really feel like he deserved a thousand times more than what the fuck he got he should have been a world heavyweight champion he was a great intercontinental champion.

Speaker 2: 30:56

Bad News Barrett was great TV and cinema. But fucking Nexus like and I will say yeah, but fucking Nexus Like gosh.

Speaker 1: 31:07

And I will say you know, John Cena did fuck that up. He did fuck that up. Let's talk about it. We can definitely talk about it, but so you have that, Okay. Whereberry is kind of in that area for me. A potential Next one, Vince McMahon.

Speaker 2: 31:29

Vince McMahon. Vince McMahon, I like him, but I don't like him over Wade Barrett.

Speaker 1: 31:42

I'm actually going to put Vince as a 10 because Vince as a commentator he was pretty good to me. That's just me.

Speaker 2: 31:53

I liked. It's one of those things because I have a bunch of other announcers in my brain. It's like Vince McMahon because now that I have Wade Barrett, it's like is Vince McMahon better than Wade Barrett? No, he's not for me, but I do like him. And Vince McMahon was more of a person where I liked him because of who he was commentating with. He's a good team partner, but not the best commentator got you got you?

Speaker 1: 32:29

um, okay, if that's the case, then how about matt striker next? What? Oh, because you didn't watch lucha, you didn't watch lucha. You didn't watch lucha. I will respect that you didn't watch Lucha. You didn't watch Lucha. You didn't watch Lucha. I will respect that you did not watch Lucha.

Speaker 2: 32:45

All right, he wasn't bad.

Speaker 1: 32:47

When he was in WWE I did enjoy his play-by-play, but like there's better I want to say for me, because I'm typing him down now he is a five, he's five, he's five's five, he's five he's that good on Lucha he's really good to me. On Lucha, I'm sorry, I keep trying to tell you, man. One of these days we gotta take a day and just binge watch some Lucha man. I already told you all June.

Speaker 2: 33:22

I'm binging Lucha.

Speaker 1: 33:23

I cannot fucking wait, I'm right here with you.

Speaker 2: 33:24

I'm locked the fuck'm binging.

Speaker 1: 33:25

Lucha, I cannot fucking wait. I'm right here with you. I'm locked the fuck in for some, lucha bro, just cause there's certain matches I want you to see and I'm just like I you know how, when you introduce your friend to that like you show him something you're like.

Speaker 2: 33:39

I don't get it twisted Like. It's not that I didn't like lucha underground, it's just that I didn't know it was fucking happening.

Speaker 2: 33:48

Yeah, it's like by the time you knew what's happening was done like literally by the time, kind of yeah, like I'll never forget the way I found it was, it was when I was living in the apartments with antonio we had cable and we only literally we had cable so that we could just watch wrestling type thing. That was like the only time we actually used cable. But it was like we had cable and there was like one random time that we was like like going through the channels and they were all like wait, there's wrestling on this channel. And I remember like it was uh, oh, I can't remember what he called himself on there now, but uh, it was ZQ Jackson oh, he was big um dang big, big Rick, big Rick okay, yeah, like big Rick, I'm like, oh, that's ZQ Jackson, that's our last ECW champion.

Speaker 2: 34:42

And then, uh, then Johnny Mundo was on there. Johnny Mundo, yep. And then there was Prince Puma. I did see a little bit of Penta. Then there was damn, what's that girl's name? The Spanish luchador, sexy Star. Yes, that was the one I was looking for. But, yes, sexy Star, I remember seeing her the first time on there, but the one part of the team with Timeless Thunder Jits.

Speaker 1: 35:21

Oh, not, thunder Rosa wasn't on there. Yes, she wasn't. No, not that I remember seeing her. If she was thunder rosa, if she was on there, I she probably wasn't thunder rosa, she was somebody. Oh no, she was, um, the moth sister, marty, the moth sister, that's who she was okay, because I remembered seeing her there yeah, she is, she was there, but she just was not.

Speaker 2: 35:45

Thunder rose gotcha I don't, I didn't remember what her name was at the time, but, and, and I think, wasn't brian kendrick there as well?

Speaker 1: 35:57

um, no, but there was a guy who looks like brian kendrick um, I can't remember his name, he's bald now. He was teaming with Angelico, which is crazy because he had such a great tag team there, which is unfortunate for Lucha as well, when they were a tag team and Lucha could do no wrong when Lucha was over. They don't exist, so it was very unfortunate because they were doing some insane stuff in Lucha and then to get to AEW, nothing but that is the. I don't know if that's the curse or whatever it is with Lucha, but continuing the list. So Matt Stryker okay, I said five. Nigel McGuinness. Mm.

Speaker 1: 36:56

Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, think about it.

Speaker 2: 37:03

Think about it. Yep, mm-hmm.

Speaker 1: 37:04

I'm passing what You're passing on Nigel McGinnis. Even during his time with NXT, you didn't like his commentary no, I did I love.

Speaker 2: 37:15

Mr Nigel, but he's not better than Pete because, like this week, I have thought of other announcers okay, okay, okay. It is like way buried over Nigel McGinnis, which sounds kind of crazy, and I know it sounds crazy, but I am Wade Barrett over Nigel McGinnis. Jr, jr. He makes the list, but I'm trying to figure out what number, honestly, I have to put him at 2.

Speaker 1: 37:50

I will agree. We can power shake on that, make a powers handshake, you know, make a powers on that. One 2 is JR, definitely, and it's just JR. That's kind of nostalgic. More definitely, and it's just JR. That's kind of nostalgic more than anything because it's just JR. You can't say no to him, I can't even say nostalgic.

Speaker 2: 38:14

He's not even nostalgic, he's just good. I even liked him when he first crossed over in the AEW. However, when he crossed over in the AEW However, when he crossed over in the AEW he did start acting a little. He started commentating differently, like when he went to AEW. It's like, I think when he went to AEW it was all like okay, I feel as if that, with the way that he is in AEW, I think this is what jr like, who jr really was supposed to be, because you know, they have people in their ears the whole time when they got the headphones on, and especially in wwe, and jr always talks about how this man's just fucking was blasting his ears the fuck out and all this other stuff and you know, and so it's like because of that, like a lot of whatever jr was saying and doing and promoting, going on about it was being, it was being spoon fed to him and to a certain degree at least, but then, like um in aw, where I feel as if, as if they had a severe lack of spoons or just eating utensils all around JR was literally just doing his own thing and it was just not as exciting, like even when AEW would get super exciting and hype.

Speaker 2: 39:46

Jr was not. There was no oh boom. Shura's like oh man, that looks like it's going to do some damage. It was just like, oh okay, what happened?

Speaker 1: 39:58

to the flair.

Speaker 2: 39:59

Yeah, whatever Okay.

Speaker 1: 40:03

I feel like it's also because of age he's not like. That also puts a lot of pressure on him too, you know.

Speaker 2: 40:12

I I don't want to blame it on age because I feel as if that's cheap, but it very possibly could just be. You know, he's an old man.

Speaker 1: 40:23

He's not, you know, he's not as equipped to do what just tired bro, he's an old man. He's not, you know, he's not as equipped to do what he used to do on the mic and, it's to say, even as an athlete. He's not even an athlete, he's just a person talking. But that still takes a lot out of them to be constantly doing that all night, right? So you got JR.

Speaker 2: 40:47

We got the good old Paul Heyman. Now, paul Heyman is someone I actually did not think about on a hindsight. So here's the problem when it comes to Paul Heyman, it's hard for me to separate. It's hard for me to separate. It's hard for me to look at Paul Heyman as a judge of how good he was for what he did, as opposed to how much I fucking hated him when he was doing it when he was commentary.

Speaker 2: 41:25

God, I hated Paul hayman on the when paul hayman and jr when they were doing their thing. I hated paul hayman because paul hayman would just always say this just Just, he was such an asshole. And like him and JR, like a match is going on and I swear they're about to come to blows with each other Because, like JR's like would you shut the hell up. Well, why don't you make?

Speaker 1: 42:00

me good old JR.

Speaker 2: 42:01

Like just, and they just go on and on and on and just be at each other. It's like, paul Heyman, just shut up, just shut up, we gotta match the call here. Paul Heyman, just doing, just being the jerk that he is, it's like it's hard for me to, it's hard for me to see past Paul Heyman on a fan level.

Speaker 2: 42:30

So it's like me saying how much I hated him is the fan in me, because that means Paul Heyman did what he was supposed to do. You were supposed to hate his guts, you were supposed to want JR to beat the fuck out of him, type situation. But the problem is I hated him so much that as an adult doing a podcast, it's hard for me to say he's in my favorites list because I hated him I hated triple h growing up, but I respect him now as an adult.

Speaker 2: 43:14

Yes, you do, and I respect paul hayman as a person, but it's like I hated him so much let me put it this way I hated paul hayman so much I could not enjoy him doing what he was doing as a commentator kind of thing as well with triple h. Yes, I hated the fuck out of triple h, but there did come a time where I could appreciate and enjoy him for how much I hated him. That just never happened with me with Paul Heyman and his commentating. So it was like I can't tell you how good his commentating was because I was too busy saying Paul Heyman, shut the fuck up, I can't stand your ass.

Speaker 1: 44:01

If that's the case, it sounds like he's not on the list.

Speaker 2: 44:08

I mean I could give him honorable mention because, boy oh boy, he did his job very well. To make me absolutely abhor him. I loathe that man at the commentating and when he finally got his just deserves. It felt so good. But then he bounced back from him way too quickly and I felt like man, someone needs to beat the shit out of him again because that first time was just not enough, like when jr got his, got his comeuppance, got his lick back. I'm like jr, you need to get five licks, because that's that one. That wasn't enough. Jr, you need to get on that nigga and ground and pound his ass Fucking. But yeah, I'll give him the honorable mention.

Speaker 2: 45:00

Okay, because that's how good at his job, he was.

Speaker 1: 45:04

Okay, so honorable mentions for you at his job. He was Okay, so honorable mentions for you. Honorable mention Swag. Alright, so, matt Tanay, excuse me, mike Tanay, mike Tanay.

Speaker 2: 45:17

Mike Tanay. He's high. He is definitely high up there. I'll put him under JR.

Speaker 1: 45:31

You putting Mike to that and JR, that's insane. How about this? Before I tell you, this is the part where I told you this was when the list started disrespecting people, because it put him and the next person I'm about to tell you as an honorable fucking mention and I was like bro, yeah, bro, I was pissed. I was pissed Like are we not saying TNA's golden era of commentary was not like at least top 10?

Speaker 2: 46:07

That is rude, that's absolutely rude.

Speaker 1: 46:09

Yes, yes, but continue. What were you about to say about Mike Tenet?

Speaker 2: 46:14

No, I was going to say like because, as a TNA fan from that particular era, mike Tenet and his partner Both of them they they made TNA Total non-stop action Like they were God damn right. As someone who would go Like Watching TNA live was fun, but it's Watching TNA live fun, but it's like watching TNA live. And I definitely did this, especially because of the way that they did it back then, because they would like record it on, like Tuesday.

Speaker 2: 46:57

You watch it the next day and then we would watch it when it came out on Thursday or whatever.

Speaker 3: 47:02

Yeah, no, I would watch it like anytime I out on Thursday or whatever.

Speaker 2: 47:04

Yeah, no, I would watch it Anytime I go to a wrestling event nowadays. If I went to go watch SmackDown, I don't go watch it back on TV. I just watched it there. I don't go back to watch it. Tna when I watch TNA in person, I watched it when it came out on TV.

Speaker 1: 47:23

Well, that was also a reason for that too, because they also did tape certain matches that this would happen this week, but actually that next match they just taped in front of us would actually be next week's match.

Speaker 2: 47:35

So it was oftentimes you wanted to piece what the week actually looked like Well, they did do that sometimes, but you would know when it was going from like one point to the other kind of thing. But it's like. But even then, because, like, because usually if after you've seen it's like, you know what the matches are, you know the outcomes, you saw all the backstage promos, but I still watched it because it's a different experience watching it with mike today and um, who was his name? Don west. Yeah, I was about to say Don West which was the other honorable mention so they put the TNA guys as honorable mentions.

Speaker 1: 48:12

And that was disrespectful bro, absolute disrespectful.

Speaker 2: 48:16

I would put him, like I'd put Don West, like number, like like maybe four or five, which one are you standing on?

Speaker 1: 48:23

four, or five? Which one are you standing on?

Speaker 2: 48:30

Four or five, I'll put them five.

Speaker 1: 48:32

Okay, five. Okay, don West, number five, all right.

Speaker 2: 48:41

You gotta be kidding me.

Speaker 1: 48:45

There it is Don West doing that man. It's the equivalent of the oh my God for Tony Styles. For me, and I also like- speaking of with Don West.

Speaker 2: 48:59

I also like, because there's that short amount of time when he was just being a complete dirtbag, when he was just being like a complete dirt bag, like he was just being the most shittiest person ever, and what died him and him and today were like butting heads like like I, that that was good that was good shit today has a good voice for commentary, while it's very much on the higher pitch side.

Speaker 1: 49:26

It makes a lot of sense for the high impact moves for your voice to elevate to that level, because it's like the oh my god moments and especially the high intensity. Anybody's voice or anybody's tone should match that and a lot of what Mike Tanay did. It really matched the matches. Yes.

Speaker 2: 49:44

Yes, Absolutely no, you're absolutely right. Ow that hurt.

Speaker 1: 49:50

Slapped my hand. He hurt himself. Y'all for picking Don West over Matt Stryker, that's what he did. Oh, okay, Okay, so from there, Pat McAfee.

Speaker 2: 50:06

Keep the pushing. What so from there, pat McAfee, keep it pushing. What I'm not putting him on my top 10 he is good though.

Speaker 1: 50:13

He is good though he is so you say he's not better than Wade Barrett absolutely not. Oh, come on, he's literally the reason why you brought the topic up, though. So here's oh, come on, he's literally the reason why you brought the topic up, though so here's how.

Speaker 2: 50:29

So there are when it comes to when I'm looking at my favorite announcers right, it's, there's a situation where there is the announcer and his sidekick. Okay. Michael Cole is the announcer. Pat McAfee is his sidekick. Pat McAfee is not, is not and could not, and probably never will not do what Joey Styles can do Real quick. You can't put Pat McAfee on there by himself.

Speaker 1: 51:14

You're correct Real quick. I now remember who Tom Phillips was. Tom Phillips was a previous commentator for WWE and currently is the commentator for TNA.

Speaker 2: 51:26

Oh, yep, that's alright Okay.

Speaker 1: 51:28

Yeah, he still gets next but. Okay, go ahead.

Speaker 2: 51:34

But yeah, no like for me, okay with how I look at it. Like Joey Styles, right, joey Styles commentated by himself, okay, and it was great. I've heard Wade Barrett commentate by himself and it was great. Pat McAfee cannot carry a show and commentate by himself. It would be stupid. Pat McAfee is carry a show and commentate by himself. It would be stupid. Pat McAfee is a great sidekick. Jerry Larry the King is a great sidekick. Taz to me, is a great sidekick. Okay, kick, okay, ain't no way you can look me in my optic stems and tell me you sit there and listen to taz commentate solo all right you got, you got a point, you got a point.

Speaker 1: 52:39

So he's basically the equivalent of that to you. Okay, he is the sidekick.

Speaker 2: 52:44

Because, whether if we want to admit it or like it or not, but there are some rare occasions, mm-hmm. But there's the announcer, the commentator, and there is his comical sidekick. Now, every once in a while, the comical sidekick is better than the commentator. My point on that Bobby the Brain, heenan Vince McMahon.

Speaker 1: 53:12

Okay, okay, or Jesse the Body Ventura.

Speaker 2: 53:19

Vince McMahon. You see the comment. You see who's the sidekick, or really the sidekick, and I don't put him on the list very much so, but still, and it's no, I'm not my uncle, I'm gonna withdraw that one because it's uh to me they're both kind of sidekicky because I was what I was going to say was macho man, randy savage and vince mcmahon, but they were both the sidekicks because there was jr yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you got a point there.

Speaker 1: 54:03

So, okay, that's Okay, that's where we're at. So how about this? All right, josh Matthews.

Speaker 2: 54:20

You know, the farther we go onto this list, I'm like I don't think they're going to say any of the people that I really like right now Because I haven't been keeping count, but we've gone pretty far into 20. And there's some names that have not showed up that are worrying me.

Speaker 1: 54:38

We're almost there. We're almost there, but I'm gonna next him, okay? Um, so we now have Mauro Narro, which is obviously number one for you.

Speaker 2: 54:54

he is indeed he is number one, okay, michael Cole so, michael Cole, I'll put him at 7 7.

Speaker 1: 55:14

Michael Cole. 7 okay, michael Cole, 7 okay, okay. Michael Cole. Cole is 7 alright, so Michael Cole is 7 alright, so Michael Cole is 7. Gorilla Monsoon. I'm now extending the 20 list, but continue, oh wait, so we've passed the original 20 list. No, we're like at 15. But I'm extending it because I just thought of some people that's not on here, like Booker T's not on here If we're at 15.

Speaker 2: 55:54

Mm-hmm, and we're.

Speaker 1: 55:57

Because we only have Booker T and Booker T, he's not on the list. So I was like Booker T's one, josh Matthews is one. Cause these are people from the era of wrestling We've watched. You know what I'm saying. Cause Josh Matthews is definitely not on a top 20, but I wanted to see where he was in your mind.

Speaker 2: 56:16

So it was that we were on. Right now it's a we are on um grow monster gorilla, gorilla monsoon, gorilla Monsoon, I'm going to have to next him.

Speaker 1: 56:33

Okay, okay, bobby the Brain.

Speaker 2: 56:37

He makes my list. Where do we put him? I put him above, right above my okay, so he's a six okay.

Speaker 1: 56:52

I'm gonna say next okay, all right because, uh, like, while I enjoy it, I never, I never got to enjoy it. I guess the way some fans would and I just didn't see, I didn't see it. It I guess the way some fans would and I just didn't see it. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2: 57:13

You know who's? Another honorable mention that just came to my mind and I don't know if he's on that list, mr Perfect.

Speaker 1: 57:22

Oh, you know what? That's the person I would think of, but yeah, they were not on this list. You know it's for the next, for the one we just brought up was the brain, the next one is the body. Just imagine, as a commentary team, the brain and the body that would be crazy.

Speaker 2: 57:39

It would be way too extra, way too much Over-stimulation. That's having Jesse the Body Ventura and Bobby the Brain Heenan sitting at the table together, that's oh, that's a lot. I don't think it's ever happened to my knowledge, but man, that's crazy.

Speaker 1: 57:58

it would be the functioning body, of the, of the, of the wwe, because you need the brain and the body. The functionality of that like I can literally hear fucking.

Speaker 2: 58:12

Uh, I can hear Jesse. Right now it's like when you got the brain and the butt just yeah, yeah. I would have to put bronze over brains.

Speaker 1: 58:23

You know what I'm saying. Like all that shit could go on like, oh yeah, so much. Um, but yeah, the body know what I'm saying. Like all that shit could go on Like, oh yeah, so much.

Speaker 2: 58:34

But yeah, the body.

Speaker 1: 58:38

Jesse, I'm putting him at four. I'm putting him at. I know I'm probably going to get Again. I'm going to have to re-advise this. He's going for eight. Eight for me, eight for me, eight. Okay, and I feel like it's just because I haven't had the chance to bounce around who, but right now it's eight for me. Fair, fair, um, but, jesse, the body is for you, okay? Tony Schiavone.

Speaker 2: 59:17

Tony Schiavone. That's pretty tough, honestly.

Speaker 1: 59:28

I'm gonna keep it a buck. He's a nine for me because I wasn't a wcw guy and, granted, I know him and I've heard of his commentary and it's not bad, it's just so we're gonna have to make a correction way barrett's out. Man, that's crazy.

Speaker 2: 59:54

All right, I'm keeping up with you, by the way, and the craziest thing is is the fact that I never watched wcw yeah same. I mean watch some stuff a lot so this is me getting tony giovanni strictly from aew, and if he is as good as he is in aew, then maybe I need to go back and watch some wcw he was I like tony giovanni he, he definitely was as good as he was then, because especially he was going over goldberg, goldberg matches.

Speaker 1: 1:00:28

oh, fuck, fuck, yes, absolutely.

Speaker 2: 1:00:30

When it comes to looking at the announcers that they have at AEW. Tony Schiavone, what's? His name Goddamn. We just said his name earlier, the one that he does, the one that's always on who's about to have that match um michael, um nigel mcginnis nigel.

Speaker 2: 1:00:57

So like, like him and nigel are such a good combo. I, I fucking love them. And so it's like and and they're both great announcers Him and Nigel, absolutely perfect, freaking um. And when they have like the four stack announcers when they got Taz and um, that's too much at one time, but yes.

Speaker 1: 1:01:24

No, excalibur is actually and here's the thing, he's number seven on that list. Mmm Excalibur. I do not feel like Excalibur is actually and here's the thing, he's number seven on that list. Excalibur. I do not feel like Excalibur is a number seven.

Speaker 2: 1:01:34

Excalibur doesn't make my list. But I do like him, but it's like I will pick Tony Schiavone over Excalibur every single time.

Speaker 1: 1:01:45

Okay, so we have that. So, since we're on Excalibur, where do you put pinpoints at Caliber? Oh, he don't make my list. Okay, you don't make he don't make my life either, but he don't make, I like him. Yeah, pause, but um Taz.

Speaker 2: 1:02:01

Taz barely makes my list.

Speaker 1: 1:02:03

Hmm, but the reason why he makes my list is because he is a good partner for michael cole, for mike, today for excalibur yes, like he is, he is a good sidekick, he, he's a good wrestler color commentator, because you know how, when they always want to put a former wrestler in the role, yeah, he's that one. He, he like where. Where is way barrett? Where is king? Where is taz? Where is nigel mcginnis? Like whoever was the former wrestler doing it to me, he's one of the best ones.

Speaker 2: 1:02:55

I'll give him that he's one of the best ones.

Speaker 2: 1:02:56

I will easily give him that he is definitely up there, and I'll even say more so he is definitely up there as far as like the modern ones kind of thing because, like I would say, like other, some of the other wrestlers who I don't put on my list but I feel were better, like, like, like, like a mr perfect kind of thing, like though mr perfect, he didn't do it a whole bunch, but like I really liked when he did it and how he would do it, kind of thing. Like. So Now the other one who I don't know if he's on there, but like talking about, like an old wrestler who used to freaking I'm not going to lie kind of fuck with Don Callis, like he don't make my list but he kind of does it for me, don Callis is a good one.

Speaker 1: 1:03:52

Don Callis is a good one too. Especially when he was in ECW as well, he was a good one.

Speaker 2: 1:04:00

I didn't know he was in ECW.

Speaker 1: 1:04:01

Yeah, so at one point when Joey Styles he had a secondary commentator. It's like near the scale end of the show, but he did have a commentator with him, Okay.

Speaker 2: 1:04:16

And that was Don.

Speaker 1: 1:04:17

Callis. Yep, he wasn't Don Callis then, but he was the lip. So his role is what they wanted to do was. Tnt wanted to constantly censor the show or whatever. So he was basically his character was. He came from the execs and the people from TNT to make sure we censor the product. I forgot what his name like, his role or whatever it was, but he was pretty much the the TNT enthusiast right and he did everything by the book. We're going to do this, we're going to do that and we're going to make sure we talk big about you know how to properly do certain things, but Joey's like no, we should be extreme, we should be raw, we should be. That's not for the network. That's not for the network. That's what it was, the network. It took me a moment to remember it, but it was the network.

Speaker 2: 1:05:15

I actually just looked it up just to look him up real quick. He looks really good for us. He is 61 years old. I would have never guessed he's done a lot of stuff in.

Speaker 1: 1:05:27

WWE, from WWE to TNA to ECW. That man got around. He was somehow always able to stay employed.

Speaker 2: 1:05:36

Him. Cutting his hair bald is what makes him look so much younger. There's some other photos of when he was doing the old man thing, still holding on to the hair. It's all like ooh. Stop it, stop it, yeah, stop it, let it go, let it go. So Yep, but man looking at him when he used to have a lot of hair different man.

Speaker 1: 1:06:04

He like a douche.

Speaker 2: 1:06:06

Complete douche that too.

Speaker 1: 1:06:12

But so different man. He like a complete douche. That too. But um so okay. But you said don callous is not on your list at all, right, no okay, not on your list. All right, cool, sorry, um, all right. So that's okay, this one. It says he's on the list, but we've never watched him. It's Lance Russell. He is a part of the Memphis crew. He was. You know, if you watched NWA.

Speaker 2: 1:06:37

Okay, yeah, I'm not familiar with him. Okay, I have heard the name before, but I don't know.

Speaker 1: 1:06:48

So let's go over some people because your list is not completed, so let's go over some people. Oh, Joey Styles. Where's Joey Styles on your list? Joey Styles?

Speaker 2: 1:07:04

I didn't really care that much about him either. Yeah, no, I'd probably end up nexting him. Okay, he wasn't bad, but he didn't turn pages for me, okay.

Speaker 1: 1:07:24

All right, so Mauro is yours right For number one. So what does my list look like right now? What am I missing? All right, so he said. But Mauro, Mauro is yours right For number one. So what does my list look like right now? Like, what am I missing? Give me one second, I got you on. I'm just trying to put all the names in properly. What happened? Why can't I find his name? Okay, cool, so your list right now consists of let's see here. So we have number 10 is Tony Giovanni. You have. Nine is nothing you have. Eight is nothing. You have seven as nothing. You have eight as nothing. You have seven as Michael Six, as Bobby. Five is Don West. Four is Body. Three is Mike Tenet, jr3. And Mauro and Arlo as number. Jr is two. Yeah, jr is two, excuse me, jr is two. And Mauro and Arlo as number. Oh, jr's two, yeah, JR's two, excuse me, jr's two. And Mauro is one.

Speaker 2: 1:08:34

Oh, um Taz. I put him as nine.

Speaker 1: 1:08:40

Oh, you did. Okay, I thought you said you didn't make the list, sorry, no, no, no.

Speaker 2: 1:08:45

Taz makes the list. Okay, I was saying the fact that there were other wrestlers that I feel like could have been better commentators, but they only did it for a quick or a hot minute type situation, Whereas there wasn't enough for me to truly go on, for me to be like I don't know. I'm going to pick this guy instead of myself.

Speaker 1: 1:09:07

You're missing eight wasn't enough for me to truly go on, for me to be like I don't know. I'm going to pick this guy instead of myself. Okay, you're missing eight and you put Bobby at six.

Speaker 2: 1:09:17

I think I'm missing six, bobby at six and Michael Cole should have been seven, if I remember correctly.

Speaker 1: 1:09:24

Yep Michael Cole seven.

Speaker 2: 1:09:26

Okay.

Speaker 1: 1:09:28

So I'm missing six and you are missing. I don't think you're missing anything else after that. Oh, eight, I'm just missing eight. Mm-hmm, because I put Bobby as eight. I put the body. Oh no, I put Jesse the body at eight.

Speaker 2: 1:09:53

Hmm, hmm, I put Jesse the body at eight. I'm trying to think of who they buy.

Speaker 1: 1:09:56

So we do have Booker T. Yeah, Booker T is an option.

Speaker 2: 1:10:05

So, oh, and you know who, he didn't say who, unless we said it and I didn't realize it, who is Jerry Larry the King Lawler?

Speaker 1: 1:10:16

oh shit, yeah, we didn't say King. No, we didn't say King. Wow, wow, wow. That's fucked up, exactly that's fucked up that's fucked up.

Speaker 2: 1:10:24

Why was he wasn't?

Speaker 1: 1:10:27

wait, wait, wait. Let me go back to this. No, he is not Wild Wild. Yep, jerry is not on this list. Absolutely wild.

Speaker 2: 1:10:41

That is stone cold, crazy. No no, larry. King Wow. No, jerry, larry the King Wow.

Speaker 1: 1:10:52

And they even picked William Regal over here, which is crazy. I'm like I don't even remember William Regal doing shit. I don't, that's funny because.

Speaker 2: 1:11:07

I put Jerry, larry the King and Booker t in the same spot what would that be? They both. Both of them would tie for number eight for me okay, but you got to pick one, though I have to pick. Well, I'm probably gonna pick jerry larry king.

Speaker 1: 1:11:25

Well, I'm probably going to pick Jerry Lurdy King. Okay, the King, all right. King for me would be six. King for me would be six, because there ain't no way. Ain't no way in hell. I forgot that shit. I feel like ass right now, god damn. So right now we got as a list 10 is Vince McMahon for me, 10 for you is Tony Schiavone. Nine I didn't do a nine yet, okay, nine.

Speaker 2: 1:12:07

Let's see here Double rainbow all the way.

Speaker 1: 1:12:11

I would say Tony is 9, tony's 9 for me. Good old Shivani, tony's 9 for me. Uh, you got Bobby the Brain for me at 8. The king for you. The king for you. Paulie is 7 for me. Michael Cole 7 for you. The king for you. Paulie is seven for me. Michael Cole seven for you. Bobby, the brain is your pick. For number six. My pick is the king. Matt Stryker is five for me. Don West is five for you. Bobby, the brain is four for you. Actually, I'm not even even gonna disrespect the king like that. What the fuck am I doing? Hold on, he said I'm not even disrespecting the king like that. Oh, slow down, grab the forest king. God damn it. Forest king, let me, let me reset the forest king already making them changes. Yeah, yeah, forest King, who was it? We just mentioned somebody and I had to re switch that. Let's see here. Freak, don West is five for you, right? Don West is eight. Don West is eight. I, how did this reverse in his? I know.

Speaker 2: 1:13:31

I know, I know You're all like. I think I got this boy now and all of a sudden it's like wait, he's done. Well, damn, I'm not done.

Speaker 1: 1:13:40

Oh no, no, no, no, don West, you said King is six, right, you said King six, no, king, no, no, no, no. King was 6 for me. Excuse me, don West is 6 for me. Bobby is 6 for you. My apologies, I was looking it wrong. Don West is 6 for me. Don West is 5 for you, 8 for me, 8 for me. We went over Booker team. How about this? Real quick, mick Foley. Mick Foley plays anywhere for you.

Speaker 2: 1:14:13

Mick Foley did commentary.

Speaker 1: 1:14:15

Hell yeah, it was very brief, very brief.

Speaker 2: 1:14:20

Mick Foley, he doesn't move the dial.

Speaker 1: 1:14:22

Okay, jim Cornette.

Speaker 2: 1:14:30

Almost Actually.

Speaker 1: 1:14:32

Jim Cornette is my eight. I'll do that, jim Cornette. That cause you, cornette, he, he said some wild shit and I love it as a commentator Boy. So official list, official list, and I'm gonna go off of, like me, and then you. Alright, so Vince for me and 10 also when you do that.

Speaker 2: 1:14:59

I just want just as an interesting thought when you say, like what was your 10 and then my 10, and you go down the list, imagine them being the commentators for wrestling. When you say, like what was your tenant and my tenant, you go down the list, imagine them being the commentators for wrestling, just to see if those would actually be good matches.

Speaker 1: 1:15:17

Here's the thing, because in some of them we completely shake hands on both of them though, so it's like how would that work?

Speaker 2: 1:15:26

I mean, then it's like that just means it's not good of an answer. Or even more. So be like would you listen to that person by themselves.

Speaker 1: 1:15:36

All right man, All right Tony, Schiavone and Vince.

Speaker 2: 1:15:41

Tony Schiavone and Vince McMahon would actually be great, I think. Oh my, God, he's going over the top rope. I feel like it would be good, but I also feel as if that they would like. There's a small bit of me that feels like they might actually kind of sort of be the same to a certain degree.

Speaker 1: 1:16:05

Like I think they would be JR and Vince together.

Speaker 2: 1:16:09

Yeah, it would be I think it was JR and King JR and um JR and Vince together. Yeah, yeah, yeah it would be, but I, I think, I think it'd be a tolerable, I think it'd be good.

Speaker 1: 1:16:15

Yeah, I feel like it. I feel like it would, because Vince's cop is the play-by-play, but so is. So, guys, in the comments, y'all let us know how would y'all feel about Tony Giovanni and Vince McMahon. I'm curious. Tony Giovanni and Vince, all right. Number nine Taz and Tony Giovanni, which we already see it already, we already know it works. It already works all right. Oh my God, this one is insane. Number eight Jesse the Body and Jim Cornette.

Speaker 2: 1:16:51

Oh my Overstimulated, it's buck wild. It's crazy. It's so good that show is insane bro.

Speaker 1: 1:17:04

I'm sorry, that show would be insane.

Speaker 2: 1:17:09

Oh man, from Jesse to body constantly dunking on Jim Cornette and Jim Cornette just get pissed off at Jesse to body and whatever.

Speaker 1: 1:17:18

oh my god, that's it's like okay so you remember how you were saying, paulie and Jim JR. It was like at that borderline, like man, I want y'all to fight. It's that, it's not that, it's not all the way there. It's like they throw jabs that are good enough to say, alright cool, that was a nice jab, it's a nice jab, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, cause JR and Paulie were swinging.

Speaker 2: 1:17:46

Yeah, they was just yeah, they're doing just the straight haymakers, just Because JR and Paulie were swinging. Yeah, they were just yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:17:55

They're doing just the straight haymakers. You know how the street beef they stand punching. You know dumb video people be fighting, they be stand punching. No way, shit before you. Yes. Or another good example in hockey. You know when in hockey they start fighting, they start grabbing each other's jersey. Yes, that was JR and Paulie the whole fucking night. Oh man, oh man. So next one which I can see is very tolerable Michael Cole and Paulie.

Speaker 2: 1:18:29

We got a taste of that at WrestleMania.

Speaker 1: 1:18:31

We did, and that's what I'm saying. It's tolerable.

Speaker 2: 1:18:35

It could happen. It could happen and they'd easily make it work. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:18:43

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So number six Bobby the Brain and Don West.

Speaker 2: 1:18:53

I feel. See, the problem is they are. I feel like they'd be the same person. Yeah, they're too much alike, or at least like it's one of those things where they're both heel alike, or at least like it's one of those things where they're both heel, for lack of better terms well also is.

Speaker 1: 1:19:13

The fact is that with bobby's commentary it would not match the tna background or like that. You gotta be like. You know seeing stuff like that. That's what made don so cool as a commentator.

Speaker 2: 1:19:28

Yeah, it'd be one of those things where I they would actually end up being like I think those two together uh would end up making don look more like the jr to bobby the brains. Uh, uh, jerry larry king he would have to.

Speaker 1: 1:19:46

It would have to be that literally. There's no other way it would work, because you can't have Don West be the play-by-play and then him be. You have to make Don West the play-by-play and make Bobby the heel, because Bobby is the best at doing that.

Speaker 2: 1:20:04

It'd be doable. It's one of those things like it'd be doable, but you're wasting one or the other's talents just a little bit.

Speaker 1: 1:20:10

Exactly, there's a better combination which is funny to me, because when we go to five, um, it's matt striker and don west and I feel like, because of how matt striker is as a commentator, he's basically a little bit of a watered down version of Mike today. I will, I'm not even gonna lie, he's not what I was saying. When I say watered down, I can I'm in a bad way. It's like where Mike today is, the more tenured per version or the more veteran version. I feel like a lot of his inspirations went to Mike. Mass striker Does that make sense.

Speaker 2: 1:20:50

Okay, I see, yeah, I feel, see, it'd be one of those things where I feel that, having if those two being together, I feel like Matt Stryker might get like now this is also me with a slightly limited Matt Stryker experience, but I feel that Matt match striker might get um, like what's the word I want to use, not outshined, but like, absolutely not you.

Speaker 1: 1:21:19

You, once you start watching lucha, you can. You'll see what I'm talking about in his commentary style, with him and vampiro, which I'm so sorry, vampiro oh fuck oh man save it, just save it.

Speaker 2: 1:21:39

No, no, no actually he's not.

Speaker 1: 1:21:41

He's not on it. I don't think he's on it.

Speaker 1: 1:21:42

I don't think he I don't think he's but it was just one of those people I had to think about like damn, like that's another one. Fuck, oh man. But he might be on there because Vampiro is the equivalent of you know how Corey Graves is a dick, but he also is somewhat of a play by play because he, matter of fact, he's the equivalent of the former wrestler who is now commentator, right. So just like any of them, because Taz to me, if we're talking about okay, so yeah, macho man, which we didn't even say macho man, by the way, you don't have to, you don't have to, so out of the equivalent yes out of the equivalent of wrestlers who are previously comment and who are currently commentators, whatever.

Speaker 1: 1:22:39

So let's think about real quick, mr Perfect macho, the Bobby Bobby the brain, because wait, no, he was a manager. Only right, he was only a manager. Okay. So Jesse the Body, taz.

Speaker 2: 1:22:54

Gorilla Monsoon.

Speaker 1: 1:22:56

Gorilla, monsoon Excalibur. Vampiro Match Striker technically, who else? Vampiro Matt Stryker technically um who else? Who else we missing?

Speaker 2: 1:23:14

there was David Otunga fuck no, and you know who else we did not bring up. When you thinking about freaking, um, uh, coach, he's not, not a former wrestler, just another announcer.

Speaker 1: 1:23:33

Coach. Coach was better as a personality. He had the dumbest fucking theme song. You thought Silk the Shocker Fucking rapping was ass? His theme song was ass Okay. Shocker fucking rapping was ass. His theme song was ass Okay. Sorry, but getting back on that, to me Taz is the top, for me Vampyr will be second or third.

Speaker 2: 1:24:05

When it comes to your wrestling tour.

Speaker 1: 1:24:10

Because Booger T, I want to say, is two. I want to say that, but it's mainly because of the oh yeah, suck it, duck it quick, all that dumb ass shit he makes it funny, he makes it funny.

Speaker 2: 1:24:23

Don't get me started. We're not ready to talk about that bit yet, because I got some things to say.

Speaker 1: 1:24:30

Oh yeah, All right, I didn't know Booker T was Kool-Aid man. That's crazy, oh yeah, man. Oh yeah, man. So next up is number four. Number four is going to be Jesse, the Body and the King.

Speaker 2: 1:24:53

It wouldn't work. It wouldn't work. This is the first day of all of this. This one's no it just because it wouldn't. They're two way too extreme personalities like they would start off and it would actually just come to blows and then it would be a wrestling match like they. They just would.

Speaker 1: 1:25:22

They couldn't which era of jr though? We talking about puppy's era, or we talking about talking about when he toned it, the fuck down a little bit?

Speaker 2: 1:25:31

Period, okay okay, I'm just curious Now, it'd be much more worse if we're talking like the early, all the way, pretty much all of Attitude Era King with Jesse the body Hell, though Dang. That definitely wasn't gonna work. Maybe later on king, when he kind of sort of like, when he like kind of calmed down and he wasn't specifically with jr and you know, and he and he wasn't hollering at the ladies as strongly kind of, but I still feel like they would. It still wouldn't work for him.

Speaker 2: 1:26:10

Okay, you know, like now, maybe like late king, when king was you know michael cole, what, yeah, when he was with michael cole and like he was in that era where you know like if someone messed with him or michael cole, he'd stand up for him and was like all right, now you're not gonna do in front of me. You know like, okay, maybe maybe, but then it wouldn't be as fun anymore yeah, because you, you kind of need the craziness that was king exactly so it's like it's just uh, that's, that's the first dud all right, well, number Well, number three.

Speaker 1: 1:26:47

we said both Mike Tenet, both for three on that one.

Speaker 2: 1:26:51

And Mike Tenet could do it by himself if he needed to. He could. He's that damn good.

Speaker 1: 1:26:57

I got a picture with him that's dope You're going to have to show me so I can put it in the video. I got to find it.

Speaker 2: 1:27:04

Okay, I know where to look, though.

Speaker 3: 1:27:11

So I'd be able to find it easily. Bet number two is jr, but I don't feel like jr yeah, we will have jr.

Speaker 1: 1:27:15

Yeah, ah, okay, but part of me feels like I can't watch a match solo with jr, just only like I could.

Speaker 2: 1:27:23

But like like I feel like it's missing something it will feel like it's missing something, because JR JR is, if I were to quote Neo, he is a movement by himself, but he is a force when he is together with somebody else.

Speaker 1: 1:27:47

I'll agree with that.

Speaker 2: 1:27:50

I'll agree with that.

Speaker 1: 1:27:51

Thank you, good song um, and then number one, which I feel like there's no way in hell like this. This should be the commentary for AEW show, right, joey Styles and Mauro and I? Oh, it's way too hype.

Speaker 2: 1:28:12

It's over the top it is. It's intense to know Mauro Ranallo and Joey Styles would kill themselves on an AEW pay-per-view. They'd get halfway through and you'd just hear like the sound, like it's just a because they've died because of sensory overload with the wrestling. Oh my.

Speaker 1: 1:28:42

God.

Speaker 2: 1:28:42

Mama Mia, just fucking. It'd be like, oh my Mama Mia, literally baby. At the same time like, if you want to hear them losing their shit, put those two watching a very lit MMA fight. They put them as MMA commentators oh my goodness, hey it the sky. I would just. I would watch MMA, just to hear them react to the knockouts.

Speaker 1: 1:29:21

Oh my God, did you see that?

Speaker 2: 1:29:24

Just it. Oh, it'd be so good.

Speaker 1: 1:29:28

It would be a crazy show and I'm kind of curious of what other people would say so good, it would be a crazy show, and I'm kind of curious of what other people would say about that. How would you feel about this list guys? Could you see some of these combinations of commentators together in a show? And if not, how about this? Give us a team, and I don't. I don't like the threes, I don't like the fourth. I like to. Two is two is how much. Like the fours. I like two. Two is how much it really should be. Having four people is a lot. It's a lot going on. It feels like it's the homies, though it do feel like the homies are watching the show together. It does feel like that, but it's just, it's something. It's something special about it, like the six-sided ring, like you should not take it away, but you did, that's fair.

Speaker 1: 1:30:20

Because the six-sided ring, knowing how much it may have hurt the wrestlers and unfortunately I got to respect that. But it's like when you took it away you took TNA away a little bit that. But it's just like when you took it away you took TNA away a little bit Like the six-sided ring era is honestly the best era of TNA. It's just like how people say the add-to era of WWE is the best era. The six-sided ring era of TNA is the best TNA 100%, but they be trying.

Speaker 2: 1:30:49

They're doing some things right now. They are they are. I've been watching. Now I will say I did miss it this week, but I do want to go back and watch. There's a pay-per-view tonight.

Speaker 1: 1:31:02

I think there's a pay-per-view tonight. Hold on.

Speaker 2: 1:31:04

Not a TNA pay-per-view. There's two pay-per-views tonight. It's Battlegrounds for NXT in the AEW pay-per-view.

Speaker 1: 1:31:19

I do remember seeing.

Speaker 2: 1:31:22

Which is the first time in a minute where I'm like, wow, so they really out here competing pay-per-views. Right now NXT is going up against what is it All Out, all In, mm-hmm.

Speaker 1: 1:31:35

AEW. No, no, I'm trying to pull up. No, no, hold on. Oh, they're in Canada right now. What?

Speaker 2: 1:31:46

for TNA TNA's in Canada.

Speaker 1: 1:31:49

TNA doesn't have a pay-per-view tonight None at all, but they're apparently in Canada right now. They're doing the.

Speaker 2: 1:31:57

Yeah, they are about to have a pay-per-view coming up soon, because the Hardys are supposed to be going up against the Nimeth Brothers Against all odds.

Speaker 1: 1:32:08

Yeah, they're going to be going up against the Nimeth Brothers, because the nimeth brothers because the nimeth brothers managed to take the titles from them.

Speaker 2: 1:32:14

However, it's like there's the hardys are at deficit because apparently jeff hardy is not allowed in canada, for some reason. Well, I say for some reason, but we know what? As a uh under siege.

Speaker 1: 1:32:27

That's what it was. Under Siege just happened Friday.

Speaker 2: 1:32:29

That's what it was oh that, so they already had their that was the pay-per-view.

Speaker 1: 1:32:37

I was talking about it's Under Siege and that was Friday.

Speaker 2: 1:32:39

Oh, shit, I guess now I have to go. But like, see, that's the thing about this week. This week there was so much happening with wrestling at one time. It's like it's hard to be able to just talk about it all in one freaking go bro. Like, first off, wwe giving the biggest middle finger to new orleans and the biggest middle finger to New Orleans and the biggest middle finger to Dwayne Johnson. I can't believe WWE has literally undone and erased everything the Rock has created and promoted throughout last year. Everything that the Rock did last year or prior to WrestleMania doesn't matter, doesn't exist. It's been wiped clean. And the fact that it's all the way down to the point where hey, you know how we were going to have WrestleMania in New Orleans, yeah, we're not doing that anymore, but maybe one day we will, and as a consolation prize you guys can have money in the bank. Huh.

Speaker 2: 1:34:04

Money in the bank in New Orleans in 2026? That'll do it for you, right? You like that shit. I've seen conflicting information, but from what I'm seeing or at least the thing that I've seen the most and it could be wrong and it might change but they're saying that they're going to keep WrestleMania in Las Vegas for next year too, and even more so, they're thinking about making WrestleMania just always be in Las Vegas, which I think is stupid. It is the worst, but. But the problem is money talks.

Speaker 2: 1:34:55

Everybody has a price somebody, nobody well, in this particular case, they don't want to pay. They they're trying to skip having to pay certain things, possibly, but it's just like man and let me know, people have bought WrestleMania tickets, so I'm wondering what happens with those Refund they have to. Do you think they?

Speaker 1: 1:35:21

get the refund they have to.

Speaker 2: 1:35:23

Huh, listen, wwe would have to refund.

Speaker 1: 1:35:30

I think the last count I saw was like over, like like 90 000 tickets and that's what they're gonna have to do, because if they do go to vegas, people, while those people can buy those tickets, those people came in mind to it being in new orleans, right, so they may not immediately have people refund them, but they may say like, hey, if you would like the option to refund and give you the refund back, right, so that way they can start reselling those tickets and ensuring there are more people who are going to go, because, yes, they say these people bought those tickets. Some people can be dicks and be like well, I bought the ticket, might not go, and now you know it doesn't look as full of a house as it should be. That's just where my brain is going.

Speaker 2: 1:36:20

Maybe Like it's funny, because a lot of people are all like they're not going to get that refund back. They're going to credit them. I'm like they better not Like I hope, oh, they're going to credit them and I'm like I think that or not, like I hope.

Speaker 2: 1:36:32

Yeah, that would suck. But even for me, what I feel is going to be the wild thing is the fact that, like and I know I would be pissed if I went and I spent a whole bunch of money on WrestleMania tickets, right, and then they change like they did, and then when I go to buy the same tickets they're more expensive Heated, there is no level of anger I can describe with words on how mad I would be, on how mad I would be if I'm like, if I spent $3,000 to get floor tickets, which that probably might not actually get you floor tickets, which is crazy to say but if I spent $3,000 to get floor tickets and then I go back and they're all like, hey, floor tickets are now $4,000, damn, I'll suck my dick. Suck my dick from behind, brother. Like that's just. That is absolute foolishness, dog, exactly, I'm giving the same fucking stank face because it's wrong.

Speaker 1: 1:37:43

It's absolutely wild and ridiculous. No, pause is crazy anyway, ha.

Speaker 2: 1:37:51

Listen, I never pause. That's just what it is. It is. The universe does not have the attention span to be pausing all the fucking time. We live in a world where we need things right now, so we either we either are going to stop at about face or we're just going to drive the train just resume press play I.

Speaker 2: 1:38:19

I resume like, as you said, we broke the start button okay okay, well, but like with erasing Dwayne Johnson stuff and then going into the fullness of this week, I'm going to try and keep it plain and simple with some of the things that went down. That horrible accident with the women's match where old girl destroyed her leg.

Speaker 1: 1:38:56

Oh yeah, that unfortunate event man, that shit looks so painful, that's kind of how my knee felt after my sumo match, actually.

Speaker 2: 1:39:08

Your leg shouldn't bend that way. And Zoe, her leg bent hard, like I don't know if you heard it, but it was like I was doing something and I just hear her screaming bloody murder. I'm like, oh, like I have. I actually have to look up and see what exactly got fucked up on it, but it's like with what happened to her remember when freaking Psycho said that the jumping off the top broke Big Boot and he broke the fuck out of his leg? Yeah, it reminded me of that. It definitely reminded me of that.

Speaker 2: 1:39:48

To this day, to this day, yeah, it's painful, painful, but, um, this day, to this day, yeah, it's pretty painful, painful, um, to this day, but uh, one thing I did want to also bring up when it came to raw and I find it kind of funny gunther right now giving off really big vegeta vibes now, how so? Real big Vegeta vibes? So when he came out there and he's talking to Logan Paul, right, he's like you know, logan Paul, you're going to go and you're going to fight and all this other stuff, because they had this little thing and Gunther starts talking about how listen, you see this as a business, all of this. I see this as being very personal kind of thing, and he was like you, going to fight Jey Uso and trying to take the belt from him. If you do that, I'm going to take that very personal because I don't want you it's like, though they tried to make it say that he doesn't care who wins.

Speaker 2: 1:41:00

Gunther made it very obvious. Like listen, if you beat Jey Uso for that title, I'm really going to beat your ass, because you're taking that opportunity away from me to beat jay usof for the title, and I'm okay with that. And I'm like, damn, if that is not the biggest vegeta energy, because vegeta, especially early vegeta, early vegeta, would be all like no, no, no, you don't do shit to kakarot. All right, that's my job. I'm supposed to beat his ass, I'm supposed to kill that clown. Okay, that's, that's for me. So if you think you're gonna go over there and beat goku, I don't think so you gotta run through me before you can get to him, because I'm supposed to get to him and I'm just like, alright, alright, gunther, I see you bruv.

Speaker 1: 1:42:00

That is definitely very big Vegeta energy. Very big Vegeta energy Super.

Speaker 2: 1:42:05

So Now Also, I did want to make the the fact that you know finn bowler got a w he got the pin and I think and this was the only thing I noted about that they gave his rap song back. Finn Balor's entrance music.

Speaker 1: 1:42:32

It's a rap song. Yeah, yeah, no, that's the new days theme, not the new days judgment days theme.

Speaker 2: 1:42:39

No, no, no the judgment day does not have the rap song. That's Finn's theme song with the rapping in it.

Speaker 2: 1:42:47

the new one, the new one, yeah, when he came out to the Rumble with Because they kept doing the thing where it's like they'll let him have it, then they take it away, then they let him have it, then take it away, let take it away. And they gave it back to him this week. So I'm like, okay, let's see how long this lasts. But then, speaking of rap songs and I was so disappointed at this on NXT Trick Williams Again.

Speaker 1: 1:43:19

Trick Williams, he does not need to do it. He does not need to do it, he does not have that gift gift.

Speaker 2: 1:43:26

Let me just say that booker t is mentally ill because this clown through the whole rap song being his hype man. Yeah, tell him. I'm just like booker t, shut the. Please, please, booker, stop Booker T. This isn't good. It's not good. Booker T, stop it. You're doing way too much right now and he's so into this track. You know it's like you're just an average Joe. Yeah, you're just an average Joe. I'm like, oh my god, come on now. Yeah, man, just, oh, god it. But like trick man. Number one he forgot the lyrics to his song. Lost all of my credibility right off the spot. Okay, he forgot all the lyrics, or he kept forgetting the lyrics. Number two he's rapping on top of the lyrics, so the lyrics are actually playing and he's rapping into the microphone and when he's rapping he's rapping with no confidence.

Speaker 2: 1:44:41

So it's like where the background vocals is all like you know, he's, he's, he sounds like this, him on the mic. He's like, yeah, like he's trying to rap. It's like when someone's trying to rap to a song but they don't know the lyrics, so they're trying to listen to the lyrics and say them while they're rapping at the same time type deal.

Speaker 1: 1:45:01

That's what he sounded like the whole time as a rapper it was it was understand how important that is, to not have to rap over lyrics. Yes, so do you see it?

Speaker 2: 1:45:14

And then, if you're going to rap over lyrics, at least sound like you know your fucking lyrics, bruv, which he didn't. It was bad. I'm sitting here and I'm like I am embarrassed. I am embarrassed as an artist.

Speaker 1: 1:45:28

And this is how I felt with him and the Ethan Page and he made those two songs. None of them were hits, none of them were good, but how is it Ethan Page actually makes the good song? I don't know. Trick, you need to stop rapping, don't do it. Look at me in the camera, real quick, trick. I admire you as a wrestler. I enjoy who you are. Don't pick it. No, look at, look at me in the camera, real quick, trick. I admire you as a wrestler. I enjoy who you are. Don't pick up a fucking mic anymore, okay. Or, if you do, probably have somebody ghost write your shit, like if it's you, no, no, because whoever wrote ethan page's shit was actually fucking good. Yours poodoo, okayoo, okay, poodoo, straight poodoo. I have no problem saying that as a former rapper myself. You don't want to smoke. You just put down the mic. Put it down, don't pick it up.

Speaker 2: 1:46:25

Yeah, that definitely killed it for me on that one, Like, but then when we flip the script and we go to AEW, AEW, yeah, that definitely killed it for me on that one. But then when we flip the script and we go to AEW, AEW probably had one of their best weeks this week, kind of Kind of Because, man, let me tell you about this Hangman, Adam Page and Billy Goat promo that they had on AEW Fam. That was some of the most powerful, most precise and beautiful storytelling and promo I have ever seen. I would be willing to say that was like promo of the year all round. I don't think anybody, I don't think anybody is beating that segment. I don't think anyone's beating that.

Speaker 2: 1:47:22

And this is with the Cody stuff. Like Cody falls short of the Billy Goat and Hangman cause when they're talking and you know freaking, you know Cody falls short of the Billy Goat and Hangman Because when they're talking and our neighborhood Billy Goat, Osprey, he's just like I need this, he's like I want this. He's talking about how he wants to be able to take the belt back home and when they do the big show in London he can show the belt off and wear it proud amongst his people and blah, blah, blah. And then Heyman Page comes in and he's all like listen, I hear you and I see what you're saying, but there's a difference between you and I. You want this, I need this. When Hangman Page the way that he said I need this, oh, I felt that shit. Like like you could hear oh, my little alarm went off, but like you can hear it in his voice how badly he needed this. Like I could go on forever about that promo. That promo was fucking beautiful. It was so good. I absolutely watched it twice.

Speaker 1: 1:48:47

I'd never do shit like that. That's good. No, it was a really good promo. I'd never do shit like that. That's good. It was a really good promo.

Speaker 2: 1:48:52

I literally had to watch and listen to that shit twice because it was that freaking good. I don't think it's possible for anyone to top that right now, because the promo and then the story that goes with both it's so solid, it's so good and the thing is, I know they're going to deliver on it, which is why I'm at this crossroads right now, because aew's pay-per-view is happening. I'm pretty certain it's happening at the exact same time as the NXT pay-per-view. Now, of course, I'll be honest with you. I'm probably going to watch the NXT pay-per-view first because I have to pay for the AEW one. So there's that. But at the same time, I definitely am going. I, if it wasn't for the fact that I had to pay for it, I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 1: 1:49:57

I might, I would, I probably would have picked aw over nxt tonight I'm gonna watch it and I'm gonna watch aw, because I'm gonna watch it on that one site, because yeah but like, I mean, so will I.

Speaker 2: 1:50:10

but it's like, as far as which one I'm going to try and watch first, like I'm going to watch nxt first, I'm gonna just keep it. Keep that simple. However, as soon as I can get through nxt, or if nxt does some stuff, it makes me feel like you know what, it ain't gonna be worth my time, which I know is not going to happen, because NXT is NXT and they stay NXT-ing. But, like, if they give me just a little inkling, I'm going to AEW Because I know the AEW pay-per-view is about to be fucking lit, because then, going on with AEW with all the shit that they got, going on MJF finally being a part of the HERD business, all that shit happened.

Speaker 1: 1:50:56

Cedric Alexander is coming to AEW soon.

Speaker 2: 1:51:01

That part like that we have. Uh, what was it? Um, looking at my little notes that I had here Fam, I'm going to call it Because I saw, I think I heard it in the promo, but I think Mercedes Monet, I think she's about to be on her way to bankruptcy. Oh by losing these belts. She's about to lose everything. It's coming. I honestly believe it's coming. She's not going to win.

Speaker 1: 1:51:33

You think they create a gimmick off of that now where she's bankrupt, like how happy Corbin and sad Corbin. I'll be sad if they don't.

Speaker 2: 1:51:46

It's like I'll be sad if they don't, but I also don't think that she'll be able to pull it off because she's Well Poodoo. You said it, I said it for you. I mean, yeah, there's no, it is what it is. But now, skipping over Collision a little bit cause collision. Collision in comparison to that lit AEW where they ended with anarchy, impromptu anarchy reigns, brawl at the end of the fucking show, like collision felt like the Sunday night heat before the pay per view. I will give Mercedes her props because the promos that they had, freaking with top guys and the fact that Danny Garcia is about to team up with what's his name to have that match and stuff like that versus FTR.

Speaker 1: 1:52:52

You can't say that man's name without doing the dance, bro. You can't.

Speaker 2: 1:52:57

If I wasn't hungry right now I probably would, and it's also hot in my room, so I'm going to let you enjoy it. But all the probos that were on collision were on point and were really good, like surprisingly good, as like like it was one of those things. Like the promos on collision were so good that I'm like the wrestling was just like. I mean it was. The wrestling was nice but like once again, it just felt like it was the Sunday Night Heat before the pay-per-view. These felt like these were the pre-matches going into what's going to be this crazy lit pay-per-view that I definitely am going to be watching at some point tonight.

Speaker 1: 1:53:44

I agree, I'm going to watch Jurassic World and then I'm watching wrestling. That is now the move, apparently. Jurassic World, then I'm watching wrestling that is now the move, apparently. Jurassic. Like the the series, maddie wants to introduce me to Jurassic World. So I was like, alright, cool, we'll, you know, want to watch. I really wanted to. I just want to have a chill day. I'm just going to do the things I haven't done Play video games or whatever, watch wrestling. And then I'm like gonna do the things I haven't done play video games or whatever, watch wrestling. And then I'm like, oh shit, there is a wrestling pay-per-view tonight, bringing it up now. So I was like okay, cool, there's two.

Speaker 1: 1:54:17

I'm not thinking NXT right now, anyway. So so there is a pay-per-view tonight and, like I was saying, because you again this is a match with two characters, I mean mean, again I like Trick Williams, he's cool. You know I don't give a fuck about Joe Carrey. You know I don't give a fuck about him.

Speaker 2: 1:54:39

Which is unfortunate for you, because he's what's happening right now.

Speaker 1: 1:54:43

I know he is and I just know I just can't get with it Anyway.

Speaker 2: 1:54:47

That's okay, because not everybody liked john cena when he was hot too, so cool I would never get it tatted, but I will keep it up anyway um the fact that you had to make that note is very like that.

Speaker 1: 1:55:05

I feel like some people get some people, get certain things like that tatted on. That's besides the point anyway. So so to get back to it, I'm going to watch Jurassic World, and then I'm going to spend the rest of my night watching AEW, because that's just what I'm going to do Anyway. So with the wonderful world of wrestling as well, we did also get a return on SmackDown, which was the Wyatt 6.

Speaker 2: 1:55:29

Ah, yes, because I did fail to see and pay full attention to SmackDown. But number one, the last match of SmackDown absolutely lit Probably the littest thing that happened in WWE wrestling this week and then for it to end with the Wyatt6, even more fuego. I was like like cause, I was like watching it, but because I was completely distracted, I snapped to attention when that shit started popping off.

Speaker 1: 1:56:02

I'm like ah, and they did that because it was Bray's birthday, which also you know. Happy belated birthday, bray. Obviously, you're not with us for us to celebrate, but if you didn't notice it at the end when they had the birthday cake in the ring, it was to Dallas for Bray. He even said for you. Bray.

Speaker 2: 1:56:24

I did question the cake. I was like wait, why the fuck is there a cake?

Speaker 1: 1:56:29

Of course at that time huh, I say. Whenever you play it back you can literally hear uh, uncle howdy say for you bray, and he blows the candle okay, okay, got it.

Speaker 2: 1:56:39

Yeah, because I am going to watch that smackdown over because there were some things that I feel that I definitely missed, that I wanted to take a look in because I know there are some interactions with Alexa Bliss and my queen, um and uh yo, yo, yo yo.

Speaker 1: 1:56:54

Tiffy. Tiffy called her the fuck out. He was like yo, how are you actually in the money in the bank category? Because you was like before man, that's a cheat sheet getting up there. Why the fuck are you competing for it? And you see, you literally see Charlotte's like okay, you got me there. Yeah, you, yeah, you got it. And you literally see Charlotte's like okay, you got me there, yeah, you got me, you literally, you literally, see it called her the fuck out how

Speaker 2: 1:57:18

like how, a couple weeks ago, when New Day was no, like right after the pay-per-view and Michael Cole and Pat McAfee was like yeah, kind of like how you guys cheated in your match to keep your titles and thenee was like, yeah, kind of like how you guys cheated in your match to keep your titles. And then they were like whoa, whoa, whoa. How dare you? Because didn't you just try to cheat, to try and beat Gunther? That's besides the point. That definitely was cheating. Y'all, you went out there and you held his foot. That's exactly what we did. But you're calling that cheating, but not what you called. Okay, double standards, alright, cool, fam. They got their ass on that one. They had to be like let's just get back to the match. I was like mm-hmm.

Speaker 2: 1:58:10

Yeah, shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. What are you talking about? People returning Boy. My boy is back. Saturday night main event Brunson Reed, my guy, brunson Reed, my guy, brunson reed. Boom, fucking, tsunami. Tsunami was clean, crystal, crystal clear water. Florida, clean buddy, which, as I'm talking about. As far as how the water looks, I don't, I can't say whether the water I know what you mean.

Speaker 2: 1:58:53

Like, oh my Listen, I am. So I was confused because I'm like, wait a second, brunson Reed literally put you on the shelf and I like how, like you know, bron Breaker, bronathan, standing there, like all right boy, what you gonna do? We jumping, we jumping. All of a sudden, seth Rock comes around, stand down, big dog, nothing but love. I'm like mmm and I'm like, ooh, this is looking like Evolution more and more now.

Speaker 1: 1:59:25

Seth is Triple H, bron is Randy Orton and Bronson Reed is totally Batista. He's totally our Batista.

Speaker 2: 1:59:35

He's Batista. It is funny because it's like, because you're like me, I'm seeing an evolution thing Everybody else is seeing, which I feel you probably more familiar with it. I guess Paul Heyman had this dangerous alliance thing at some point in life.

Speaker 1: 1:59:56

In ECW he did. He did have something of that which I mean, it is resemblance of it, but the memes have always. It was SHIELD. First Because they took the photos of Seth and just replaced Paul Heyman with roman. Yeah, that dumb shit. But then now I was like nah, because seth is a big. He's literally, he's crossfit triple h. Okay, he's sinister with what he does, he is somewhat a cerebral assassin, but he doesn't have the Triple H build and he doesn't have the ability to do what Triple H did, because it's a different era. He is the equivalent of.

Speaker 2: 2:00:44

I dare say he performs better than Triple. H, he does absolutely Okay, so that's not as hard of a take as it may sound no no, no, no, no no no I mean I said seth, that's what I say he's crossfit triple h.

Speaker 1: 2:00:56

Triple h was big, so he couldn't do some of the things that seth does. But seth is a balanced player. He could, he could turn. He could turn up to one of the other notches he can't get up. Triple h is all brawn, you know, but he, he is smart, but he doesn't have the athletic ability to do some of the other notches he can't get up. Triple H is all brawn, you know, but he is smart, but he doesn't have the athletic ability to do some of the things that Seth would do. But Seth, as a as if you were looking at the roster and you were like I want to pinpoint certain people to be that like how we said Dolph Ziggler with Shawn Michaels, remember how we used to say that Seth is Triple H gotcha and I don't know. I think Shawn Michaels Remember how we used to say that Seth is Triple H Gotcha and I don't know, I think. I think Batista is Latin of some sort, correct?

Speaker 2: 2:01:41

Yeah, he's Spanish.

Speaker 1: 2:01:45

So I find it interesting that even with now I know Bronson, he's not Spanish.

Speaker 2: 2:01:55

No, he's actually he's. He is Australian and he's got Polynesian in him but he kind of looks like that.

Speaker 1: 2:02:02

You remember how, when, when Batista came in, he kind of kind of looked like he's like a stockier version of what Batista looked like when he first came in.

Speaker 2: 2:02:13

I mean, I mean I'm picking up what you're stepping in, as far as it kind of fits.

Speaker 1: 2:02:17

The only thing that didn't fit at first was because technically Braun Breaker really is. He has the Batista look, but he has the Randy Orton youth, like he's the youngest out of the group.

Speaker 2: 2:02:32

Yeah. So it's like like physically he is definitely he's like a. He's actually a weird combination of Batista and Randy Orton. He's got Batista strength with Randy Orton agility.

Speaker 2: 2:02:48

Randy Orton chipper, the chipness of agility, yeah agility, yeah, and the technical prowess to a certain degree, because Braun can get technical when he needs to. He doesn't have to because he's got all of that brawn. Good old Braunathan Breaker. But yeah, no, that was such a pop for me. I'm so glad that he's finally brawn. So, good old brawnathan breaker. But yeah, no, that was such a pop for me. I'm so glad that he's finally back, cause I had this realization, like man, I'm kinda lacking like boys right now on in WWE.

Speaker 2: 2:03:24

You know what I'm saying? Like no, go ahead, get it out. Go ahead, get it out, go ahead, say it, get your paws out, get your paws, get your paws in. Because you can't help yourself, god damn it. Because you know niggas can't drink or, you know, eat glizzies these days, without someone trying to pause the situation. You know everything is being made to be some kind of gay and homosexual undertone. You know what I'm saying. Me blinking twice is like, damn, bro, you fruity. Like what's going on, buddy? Why are you fluttering your eyes at me? Pause, pause, pause, go ahead, get it out of your system so I can continue.

Speaker 1: 2:04:11

No, I'm good, I'm good.

Speaker 2: 2:04:13

No, no, no say pause, pause, me damn it pause pause me for that, even if I did it, it's not.

Speaker 1: 2:04:24

It wouldn't be genuine. Now, it's not genuine.

Speaker 2: 2:04:27

Oh, it ain't genuine now it ain't genuine, that's forced, that's forced. Oh, it's forced, okay, alright, but you ain't gonna pause the force, huh? You know what I'm saying? Oh my god, no man should be forced to nothing unless it's on another woman or towards another woman right Now you borderline in there.

Speaker 1: 2:04:48

Oh, I'm borderlining.

Speaker 2: 2:04:49

Oh, I'm borderline in there. Oh, maybe I should pause you for borderline in there.

Speaker 1: 2:04:55

So you don't know which side you're going to come out. You're not going to stop me from doing it, it's just like no, it's fine, I don't have to.

Speaker 2: 2:05:03

I'm not going to, I'm just going to blow past it, because at this point that's what I did. I'm just trying to help you get it out.

Speaker 1: 2:05:12

Pause there, you go that better, you feel good no, no, no, it does not, it does not, it does not oh sure, okay, alright, moving forward, anyway, god damn, pause culture jeez. So so, in a nutshell, give me your thoughts on Saturday Night's Main Event. Anyway, goddamn pause culture, jesus Love it. So, in a nutshell, give me your thoughts on Saturday.

Speaker 2: 2:05:37

Night's Main Event as we close out the episode. I mean, the only other bit that I will comment about Saturday Night's Main Event is man. Why can't we just let Jey Uso have a goddamn match? Literally since he's beaten Gunther, he has not actually had a successful full-on match without some BS happening. Because, whoever he goes against, he shouldn't be beating them clean Yikes, him clean yikes. That is absolutely terrible and absolutely the worst for his title run in character because he needs to be.

Speaker 2: 2:06:19

He should have been able to, he should have been able to beat fucking, but but no, that was an interference. And then there was another match that he just had, and once again there was another interference. And then he has to fight with logy paul, and what happened? Oh, but literally every single match that he has had up until this point has been an interference of some sort, or the match ends up being a called off because of disqualification. Now, now, granted, he did win this match because of the interference.

Speaker 1: 2:06:53

Yeah, which is no clean pins?

Speaker 2: 2:06:58

Can we stop disrespecting this man and can we let him be the champion that we're really wishing and wanting him to be to some degree, like at least Kofi got some respect in this particular manner. He actually cleanly won some goddamn matches. He beat a couple of people. Right now, jay uso has not successfully defended his title in my I mean on paper he's successfully defended it so here's the thing.

Speaker 1: 2:07:33

It could be a couple of things. Some people may not want to take the pin clean. They might be like, look, I'll take the l, but it can't be clean for my character. You know, we're not we.

Speaker 2: 2:07:43

I don't think we live in that era of wrestling anymore, especially in this upper echelon. There's no more. That's not going to work for me, brother. That don't happen backstage. That does not happen anymore. Motherfuckers in easily not in WWE Can't be. People get paid way too much money to be on something that's not going to work for me brother.

Speaker 2: 2:08:07

I feel like if anybody did do it, it would be Logan Paul, though Logan Paul though Logan Paul probably makes more money than most of the WWE people because, unlike the people in WWE, logan Paul still has all his social medias. He posts his videos and stuff like that. Everyone else in WWE don't get that kind of freedom or or can do any of that, and he's generating plenty of revenue in that avenue to pay for whatever he wants, and so I don't think logan paul has any stock or, even more so, needs to listen. Logan Paul has his own hydration station sitting outside the ring. Okay, logan Paul has had his logo in the middle of the ring displayed for the universe to constantly see at all times. Alright, ain't, no wrestler has any of that? See at all times. Alright, ain't, no wrestler has any of that? Ain't, no wrestler has any of that.

Speaker 2: 2:09:18

If there were to be anyone to want to say that's not gonna work for me, brother, it would be the other wrestlers, but definitely not Logan Paul. Like, everything works for him at this point because for him, pub, any publicity is good publicity for him. People are going to hate him, just to hate him, and then there's people who just who are going to love him, are always going to be his fans and he's he's good, I'm not like a fan of logan paul but like I don't think there, I don't think there's a whole his yeah, his wrestling is great.

Speaker 1: 2:09:56

Yeah, I had to.

Speaker 2: 2:09:57

I don't think there is a uh, I don't think there's a whole uh, especially in wwe. Now some could argue a different for aew, but also aew still kind of runs like an indie promotion and so, like I've, I've been going to a lot of indie promotions recently and I have seen firsthand, I have seen the. That's not gonna work for me, brother I've, I've seen it plenty of times. It's pretty interesting to see, but it's like I don't think it's happening in this upper echelon as far as the wrestlers go. Now, when it comes to upper management, when it comes to upper management, that might be a different story.

Speaker 1: 2:10:44

Talk to him, dwayne Johnson but outside of that, I mean when it comes to Saturday Night's main event, did you feel like it was a good show and how it closed off in the interesting week of wrestling?

Speaker 2: 2:10:57

before we get into these pay-per-views for tonight, um, I mean, I think it was okay, I don't think it.

Speaker 2: 2:11:05

Uh, saturday night main event to me outside of Brunson Reed coming back, that to me, outside of Brunson Reed coming back, that was to me, the biggest pop of the show the night. For you, that's the only thing that's keeping me going forward with WWE in regards to what has been displayed in front of me. Alright, so it's like if I was to add up all the wrestling that I saw between the two, if it wasn't for the fact that I'm just cheap and I don't feel like trying to watch, trying to pay for AEW at this moment, I'd be going and watching AEW at this moment. I'd be going and watching AEW and watching Battlegrounds later, but I'm watching NXT first and I'll come back to Battlegrounds. Hell, I might watch Battlegrounds while I'm at work tomorrow, but I don't want to do it that disservice, because I know there's going to be some do pen this league great wrestling on a W, but I mean, anytime I get to hear Jason by Ventura do his thing, I'm happy when it comes to, I will agree, I will agree.

Speaker 1: 2:12:26

And I want to end it off with saying this Let me talk to you. The Maziku says what you going to do, brother, when the next episode goes wild with the different catchphrases that you will hear from wrestlers. Oh yeah, dig it. And when you think about what catchphrases kind of always come to you, every wrestler has that particular catchphrase. That's really great, right, it's the one thing that makes the pop, is one thing that makes them stand out, and there are certain catchphrases that are stupid, funny, good, whatever. But I always got to ask the question can you dig it, brother? Can you dig it?

Speaker 2: 2:13:13

can you dig it? I'm not gonna lie, you were like all over the place for a moment, but like I like how you brought it back in. I'm like where is this going? What's happening now?

Speaker 1: 2:13:29

The next episode is going to be all about the best catchphrases in wrestling. Every wrestler has a punchline, a catchphrase or something of that nature, and I want to talk about what are some of our favorite ones, and that is going to be the vocal point of next episode, because we all got some of our favorites. I mean, shoot, I just said Jolie Styles. Oh my God, that's technically still a catchphrase. Let's talk about it. So, and that that's one, two, let's talk about it. Or what do you want to talk about?

Speaker 2: 2:13:59

like everybody has, I can easily say the two phrases. So I was the one wrestling phrase that I say I have said constantly to this day it's actually how I end my phone conversations Is Now. Granted, it's not originally a wrestling phrase, but I started saying it because of Sting, and that was when, in TNA, sting was going through his Joker phase and you know, he was getting done saying something blah, blah, blah, blah, and then, right before his music starts playing Ta-ta, and then he would dip and so, oh, what did it not come through? Oh, you're doing Ew, ew, that's a fave, stop it, that's disgusting.

Speaker 1: 2:14:55

No, that's not. That's a catchphrase. What? Listen one of the few catchphrases.

Speaker 2: 2:15:08

One of the few catchphrases where it's like damn, the universe would have been so much better without it no, that shit was funny when austin did it, because you don't remember the? Time when he got on nature boy.

Speaker 1: 2:15:17

He was like let's say why do you like nature what? Do you like boys, what? No, actually don't answer that. Do you like nature what?

Speaker 2: 2:15:28

the wet chant is the worst.

Speaker 1: 2:15:30

It is the Okay. It's the worst in certain situations, right, okay, nope, it's just so you're telling me anytime Austin did it. It was not cool.

Speaker 2: 2:15:40

The first two, yes. The rest All right. Let's get it out please. Anyway, like I won't fret and say that there were certain parts where it's like, okay, yeah, that was fun, but then when it continues, it's all. It's like, sure, it's fun when Austin's there doing it, but then when Austin hasn't been here forever and we're still doing it, that's when it becomes pain. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 2:16:07

Okay, that's valid, that's valid. But, guys, if you've tuned in this long, we definitely appreciate you, as always, again, you can catch us on all streaming platforms, especially spotify, apple music, and always you see the video live here on youtube. Um, but please, if you, a matter of fact, going back to the topic of the conversation today, your top commentators of all time, and who would you want to see as a splash from different areas, whether it's Lucha, tna, ecw, wwe, new Japan, ring of Honor, whoever was your commentators could you splash two of them together, and what kind of magic would you create? We would love to see that in the comment section as well, but your dream commentating team.

Speaker 1: 2:16:55

There you go, dream commentator team, and we would love to see what those are in the comments so we can have the conversation and keep that going. So until next time, it's the Masako.

Speaker 2: 2:17:07

It's your boy. Swag Switch in the building.

Speaker 1: 2:17:10

And remember, while the ring is sacred, the podcast is nothing but destruction, and that's the bottom line, because the Masako said so. Have a nice day, oh yeah, see you guys next week.