The Bottom Line

Johnny Laurinaitis has turned on Vince McMahon, and wrestling may never be the same. The longtime WWE executive and right-hand man to McMahon has reportedly agreed to tell authorities "everything from A to Z" in exchange for leniency, potentially sealing McMahon's fate in his ongoing legal troubles. We break down this shocking development and what it might mean for wrestling's most controversial figure.

The alleged competition between WWE and AEW takes center stage as we analyze WWE's scheduling of events directly against AEW pay-per-views. Is this deliberate targeting or simply smart business? We dive into both perspectives, examining whether WWE truly sees AEW as competition or if they're focused solely on maximizing their own profits against bigger entertainment entities like the NBA and NFL.

AEW's recent quality surge dominates our conversation, particularly their exceptional Double or Nothing pay-per-view. The Hangman Adam Page versus Will Ospreay match delivered tremendous action without relying on the repetitive false finishes that have plagued previous events. Even more compelling is the ongoing Hangman-Swerve Strickland rivalry, which we compare to legendary feuds like Stone Cold versus The Rock – something many fans feel WWE currently lacks.

We also analyze WWE's recent developments, including Bronson Reed's alliance with Seth Rollins, Lyra Valkyria's impressive promo work, and Trick Williams' evolving Hollywood heel persona. The intensifying women's divisions across both companies get special attention, particularly the electric confrontation between Toni Storm and Mercedes Moné.

Our conversation shifts to wrestling's rich history of catchphrases, from Stone Cold's "That's the bottom line" to The Rock's "If you smell..." Before wrapping up, we preview next week's discussion about the legitimacy of finishing moves in modern wrestling. Why can wrestlers kick out of devastating slams but get knocked out by a single forearm strike? Join us to find out!

🎙️ Big Brothaz of Destruction Podcast
The ring is sacred. The questions are real. The destruction? Guaranteed.

💥 Follow the madness, tap in below:
📸 Instagram: @bbodpodcast
🎥 TikTok: @bbodpodcast_
📘 Facebook: Big Brothaz of Destruction Podcast

🔥 New Episodes Drop Every Monday @ 9AM EST
Step in the ring with us. Ask the hard questions. Bring the smoke.

Chapters

• 0:08 Episode Introduction
• 0:42 Vince McMahon Trial and Johnny Ace
• 10:49 WWE vs AEW Competition Debate
• 27:51 WWE Raw Highlights and Developments
• 42:48 AEW Double or Nothing Discussion
• 1:04:49 Famous Wrestling Catchphrases
• 1:42:57 Finisher Legitimacy Preview

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:08

hello everybody. Welcome to another episode of the big brothers of destruction podcast.

Speaker 2: 0:14

It's the masako and it's your boy swag. Switch it in the building here and um and.

Speaker 1: 0:22

I'm already starting off.

Speaker 2: 0:25

Fam, if I don't already just starting off, we'll never get to the end of it.

Speaker 2: 0:33

OK so what's going on. So, before we even actually start talking about the actual wrestling that has happened this week, right, all right. The first thing that I want to bring up, which has been something I've been waiting for more information on for a minute now and we finally got some, and which also leads me to think that, man, if it can finally happen, we think the Diddy trial is going to be crazy and is crazy, this Vince McMahon trial, oh Fam which goes to show like. So, to be honest, there is a part of me, as crazy as it's gonna sound, there's a part of me that wants Vince McMahon to not be at fault and for this to just be a big hoopla, misunderstanding, craziness.

Speaker 1: 1:29

Is this a boiler room hot take? That sounds like a boiler room hot take.

Speaker 2: 1:33

You know what Maybe it could be, but this is just me wanting to attempt to give someone a benefit of the doubt who probably honest and truthfully does not need to. But the good Christian man inside of me wants to be like let me hear his side of the story, at least. Until I heard about what happened this week, which is the fact that and it's always the ones who you think is close to you His right-hand yes-man, john Laurinaitis oh, okay, john Laurinaitis, I don't even know what kind of term you want to call it, but yeah, john Laurinaitis. Johnny Ace has turned his back on Vince McMahon and said said, I will tell you everything you need to know from a to z, if you can let me out this bitch, scott free.

Speaker 2: 2:42

He snitched, oh, he's snitching. And so after hearing that, I'm just like man, cause this is the person who was always there with Vince McMahon one of the many, yes, men that Vince McMahon has had that's still alive, cause he's had a lot throughout these years and a lot of them has dwindled down. But Johnny Ace, the person who was with him all the time and you had to get through him to get through him and turns back on him. He said I'll tell you everything you need to know.

Speaker 1: 3:17

He basically got that quarter pounder with fries in the interrogation room. You know he started eating, he started talking.

Speaker 2: 3:23

Oh, listen, he got more. Listen with the way that, with the way that I'm, I am predicting this to be fam. They. They took him out to an all you can eat buffet, I was saying, and they let him get the crab legs. So they paid extra for that.

Speaker 1: 3:41

OK, so put us on. So what's going on? What? What is the the new knowledge that you got?

Speaker 2: 3:47

outside. Well, so, besides the whole john lauren nias thing, because that that's just the main like big thing when it comes to that whole, that whole case now, john lauren nias is now testifying against Vince McMahon, which is probably at that point, I think, it has no choice but to be to his undoing, because if there is any person who's been involved in it, especially since his name was involved and has been noted to be a part of this whole situation, he's about to sing, like a canary, as they say, and I can't wait.

Speaker 1: 4:36

And Vince McMahon is probably not going to be around much longer. He's toasty.

Speaker 2: 4:39

I mean, yeah, he was already going to be toasted, he's been toasty, but he's real toasty, but he's real toasty. And it's one of those things where I just be like man that sucks cause, you know, like or not, vince McMahon did a lot for the business, but he also.

Speaker 1: 4:56

That's the one thing that always takes me back every time I think about this scenario. It's like man, it's Vince, but like you can't. You can't accept what he did. You can't in the slightest, that's that's where I'm at that.

Speaker 2: 5:10

That that's that's literally me is like listen. I have been watching it as like I get it. Rich people do dumb stuff, rich people do crazy things kind of thing. But it's like you know wishful thinking and I was like you know, I wish it could be false, but I also know that it's. He definitely probably did that, not even definitely probably. I think he did that shit, but at the same time.

Speaker 1: 5:38

I wish it wasn't true knowing that there's a there's a YouTuber called Top 10 Wrestling. He he's been going back on like recent interviews that wrestlers have done in the Howard Stern show which you know. Now I don't know if it's just the way of the world now has like kind of processed my mind to hearing certain things and be like Howard Stern is very much a person who wants controversy. He wants certain topics to be had and a lot of times he's just like pushing for a specific topic and a lot of it's like yo, howard, are you? Wow.

Speaker 1: 6:16

But the reason why I brought that up is like Vince being on there, he openly said on the podcast he cheated on Linda like openly, and it was just like oh, you do that, like how do you get away with it? It's basically equivalent of we're just honest with each other, we're just honest with each other. You know, she just knows, and it's like that's crazy Linda. And then you know, having the kids go on there too and the same thing and then you know, having the kids go on there too and the same thing.

Speaker 2: 6:49

I mean, you know, yeah, it really is kind of crazy, but at the same time it's it's almost like the uh, that behind the scenes that you never get to see unless you're in that circle of people. Like, and it's one of those things. Like you see it in movies all the time and you watch these crazy movies and you're just like ain't no way that's real. But then you hear just little small snippets and templates of information.

Speaker 2: 7:17

You're all like, damn, so that shit really does happen prime example, like I kind of brought up earlier the denny trial situation like it's. You want to think that these things only happen in movies, but movies are kind of based on some kind of truth at least you know I you know, like nothing is really as it seems like going just a slight bit off topic, because I watched it the other night at random, just so happily, right after aew.

Speaker 1: 7:51

Uh, freaking, uh, peewee herman oh yeah, he's getting a documentary or something like that yes, it's already out I watched it.

Speaker 2: 8:00

Oh, I don't know if it's going to be like more episodes, but there's two episodes and it's kind of crazy because the fact that this documentary was done literally right before he died and some of the stuff that he says is kind of ominous Because it's literally him just giving his truth and giving himself out in this documentary legitimately, right before he actually passed away.

Speaker 2: 8:25

But it's like we see, we saw what Pee Wee Herman was and the things that he represented and the things that he did on TV, but who that motherfucker was in person, on a personal level a completely different person like the like his name is Paul I forget his last name, but like Paul, like he talked about, like who he was back when he was in high school and when he was in college and all this other stuff like you would have never guessed who this man was. He was that mysterious not so mysterious, it was more so the fact that he did the thing where he was like, hey, when I'm in front of a camera, this is what I am and that's all you're going to see.

Speaker 2: 9:23

And when he was in college when he was in college, like you know, when he was in college he was full-blown gay cross-dressing, you know did a lot of very, uh, very interesting art movies and stuff like that. Like because if you can imagine, you know an art student growing up in the 70s. That's exactly what he? Was super hippie, to a certain degree super concept all this other stuff very queer, very, oh, extremely queer.

Speaker 2: 9:52

And he was, as a matter of fact, he dated a black man for a very long time and once his career kind of sort of started going off, they kind of go in their separate ways, kind of thing. And so, and honestly, from what he kind of said, like that was like his, probably his one true real relationship he's ever had, like he's he. From that point he decided that if he wants his career to be something, he had to not show himself as being gay and never admit to it. So he put himself himself like he was originally, like the way he described. It is like I was out of the closet and I went back in I locked the door type situation, and so it was like he did those things because he was like, because at that time, only up until now has you know that been very, very openly attempted.

Speaker 2: 10:41

Like God rest his soul, if he was still doing shit right now, it wouldn't have been a big deal yeah, he would have saw.

Speaker 1: 10:47

He was a huge difference in the but even then the same thing with um. Who better than canon?

Speaker 2: 10:54

exact, but um, but yeah. So it was like he, you know, doing the whole thing. He kept, kept to himself, kept, you know all that Highly recommend you watch. But to bring everything kind of sort of back in, though, it's just that people who are, when you meet them in person, you know how they often say you know, never meet your heroes, because sometimes your heroes are not actually heroes on the inside, they just portray one on the TV screen and so Two different individuals basically Exactly so.

Speaker 2: 11:34

It's like It'll be interesting to see. I'm so ready to see where this trial goes. But, moving away from that piece, the other little bit of interesting situations that's been going on with wrestling here before we even actually talk about real wrestling, I and and I've had some interesting clarification on this, so I'm gonna just present everything on the table and I'm gonna let you guys think and figure out how you feel and what you say is yay or nay. So it started off with the fact that I saw this video and and it was talked about the fact of how people, the general population, feels that wwe is trying to snuff out aew. So this past weekend aewW has Collision, aew has their. I think it was All In right.

Speaker 1: 12:28

No, double or Nothing. Double or Nothing. There it is.

Speaker 2: 12:31

They had their Double or Nothing pay-per-view, WWE, they had their Saturday Night Main Event and they had their NXT pay-per-view and you had to pick which one you wanted to watch.

Speaker 1: 12:46

And this would have been the second time I would have picked AEW. And I should have picked AEW because, as much as I enjoy NXT and maybe Battleground would have probably been fun, aew to me would have been way more fun.

Speaker 2: 13:01

So, and that actually kind of goes into a thing I was talking about last week where the difference between just wwe and aw in general is wwe, they entertain and they have amazing storyline that reside in matches. Aew has amazing top tier, top of the line matches. That just so happen to have a little bit of story that goes to them and their pay-per-view. This previous pay-per-view Honestly had both.

Speaker 1: 13:41

I'm not even going to bullshit you on that. You talking about storyline and matches For once.

Speaker 2: 13:45

I don't know what happened Come come on go ahead I don't know what happened between the last aew pay-per-view we watched then going in to this aew pay-per-view, that that just happened. Okay, because from that last pay-per-view and back aw's been ass all right, but after that last pay-per-view it's like someone said ayo, get out the fucking seat. I'm gonna sit here and let me actually rock this shit and make this be a legitimately decent watching, you know cinematography of wrestling.

Speaker 1: 14:28

Alright, let me.

Speaker 2: 14:29

Someone said move over, let me cook. Whoever it is that told the other person to get the fuck out. And the guy who sat down and said, let me cook, let him stay and continue. Let that be his kitchen.

Speaker 1: 14:43

It definitely ain't Tony Khan. I'll tell you that much. Definitely ain't Tony Khan.

Speaker 2: 14:47

Whoever it is, give them that kitchen. You take your keys, put them in his hand and walk away and let him do it. Because, whoever it is, whatever has changed, lock that shit in. Has changed. Lock that shit in because ever since, ever since AEW has been pulling, has been producing and pulling out nothing but bangers. When they say that AEW has been on the rise as of lately, it's not a fucking lie so, so, so, so you can, I would say you.

Speaker 1: 15:25

I will say, compared to AEW back in the day, like to now, like the product is so much better as a wrestling wise it's always been somewhat decent wrestling wise but the product in the most recent era that we are in, and the funny thing about it is AEW, I don't know, do we have errors? I don't. I don't know that we are in and the funny thing about it is AEW. Do we have eras? I don't know. I know it's the four pillar era, but like.

Speaker 2: 15:50

I don't think. So I would say AEW, if you were to give them an era. There's been three. There's been what I would call the. What do you call that? I would like to say the. I would call the. Uh, what do you call that? I would like to say the. I would call it uh.

Speaker 2: 16:09

There, I wanted to call it the goldilocks, but that's, I don't think, that's a. I don't think that's the word I want to use, but, like the, the best way I can describe it is they had their, their startup era, the, the beginning, their genesis, the launch era. Right, and the launch era was great, it was different, it was new, it was fantastic, it was great to see. And then, with the launch era, whenever you first start something, there's growing pains and trying to figure out what you're going, where you're at, how you want to do, and that lasted for quite some time, that whole doing and dealing with all of that. And then there was the COVID era, which COVID to me. Their COVID era almost put them on their ass. It was really that death match.

Speaker 1: 17:01

It was really that Jon Moxley and Kenny Omega deathmatch where it ended with that wee bitty explosion. It actually is in their game too, and that's what's even worse.

Speaker 2: 17:17

Sometimes you have to make fun of yourself and just be like, yeah, we did that, it was bad, but you know what. So know like, yeah, yeah, we did that it was bad, but you know what? So was the shock master, so it's so.

Speaker 1: 17:27

So it's funny how I haven't even told you these eras and you kind of already give me the errors, because I actually just looked it up. There is the launch era, there's the pandemic era, there's the forbidden door era, the super indie boom, then there's the.

Speaker 1: 17:43

There's the drama era, which is the backstage chaos, you know the, the, the fight, the bra, the, all out, brawl out, and um, then there's the collision era, when collision, you know, started to get really, uh, start to peak, they start to launch and stuff like that. And then there's the post punk era, or the rebuild era, which is currently where we're at is the rebuild era.

Speaker 2: 18:07

And to me it sounds like it's rebuilding. It's very interesting that that's how they I mean, I can easily agree, but I can easily agree and I feel as if this quote-unquote rebuilding era is going. I think they've, Because how long have Punk's been away from them for a good minute? Now Like a year.

Speaker 1: 18:30

A year.

Speaker 2: 18:30

Yeah, it's a year, so Punk's been away from them for about a year, kind of thing, and so it has taken them a year of producing absolute dog shit to finally have a stint where they figured it out, and I think it's because of the fact that they have, I think they're in a spot where they finally figured out who their stars are, what they want to do with those stars and who they mesh well with.

Speaker 2: 19:06

Now I still think AEW still has way too many people right now, unless they actually do what WWE does, and is do a legit brand split, because it's not like they don't have enough titles to do that, but at the same time, I think they kind of sort of already have a slight brand split because they because they have ring of honor, but I have not watched any ring of honor to definitively say you know a yay or nay on that, and what I can also say, though, is that ring of Honor is, like still is kind of seen as their NXT, because what is it during the paper Was? It was that during the pay-per-view, the Hurt Business went up against the Day One Boys. Yes, yes, and it's like the Day One Boys. They're the Ring of Honor Tag Team Champions. They're the Ring of Honor Tag Team Champions, and now they're coming up and challenging the AEW Tag Team Champions, as if the AEW Tag Team Champions are a more desirable belt than the Ring of Honor one.

Speaker 2: 20:14

Or at least that's more so how it came off to me, and so. So there's that bit, but going all the way back to it, though but yes, that was me complimenting AE all the way back to it, though but yes, that was me complimenting AEW. Going back to it, though, is the fact that it has been noticed, because it happened this past weekend, where WWE was booking on top of AEW. Well, in July it's going to happen again for AEW's next pay-per-view. It's going to happen again for AEW's next pay-per-view. It's going to be All In versus Great American Bash, nxt and Saturday Night Main Event, and a lot of people are all like hmm.

Speaker 1: 21:00

AEW. What are you doing? Well AEW what are you doing? Excuse me.

Speaker 2: 21:05

Yeah, everyone's all like WWE, what you doing? I thought you said they weren't in competition Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah and all this other stuff. Now, on the surface there was a part of me that's all like yeah, I have noticed that. And the fact that this is going to happen a second time in a row, this is going to happen a second time in a row very peculiar, but, as the group chat does, the group chat has lots of good minds in it and they, they, sometimes they speak some interesting truths, and the other and the on the other end of it, it's like, from what I was kind of told, is more so the fact that it's not about them. It's never been about AEW format, that they're doing is kind of is just part of their already planned out long, drawn out.

Speaker 1: 22:11

You know stories. You know like okay, so like is, this plan is always to get rid of aew, but like no, no it's not that they did not plan to do this to aew.

Speaker 2: 22:21

They just planned to do this because they're thinking of other things as opposed to AEW. So you've heard the whole thing that Triple H has said that we're in competitions with NHL, nba, nfl. They're competing against the normal sports brands. All right, that's, that's what wwe is paying attention to. So they're doing what they're doing and they're doing it the way that they're doing because of the fact that they know it is there they it has been carefully calculated that when, where, when they're doing these particular things, that's where the money is going to be and that's how and when they're going to make the absolute most money out of their product. Because, if there's anything, because prior to this, because this is actually on the same week, we had this conversation the other day about, with the whole thing, of them pulling wrestlemania from one place to another, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 23:30

So it's like how we was talking about how like bully ray was talking, and we discussed the fact that bully ray's not thinking like a fan, he's thinking like a booker, and so, because he's thinking like a booker, you got to take your feelings out of it, and it's all about where are we going to turn up the most dollar signs and how are we going to turn up the most dollar signs. And so this whole situation that's been going on, where it's like, oh, wwe is both putting their shows on top of AEW it has been explained to me that no, it has nothing to do with AEW. The only issue that it is for AEW is just the fact that y'all, just so happily, are having a show the exact same time. We're trying to make money, and so it's not so much that they're worried about AEW as a matter of fact, from what I've come to understand, they're not worried about AEW at all and they have better ways of shitting on AEW, which are actually, personally, my favorite ways which is when you go and you it's like, let's say, hypothetically speaking, something happens and Darby Allin's contract ends up going up, and then WWE goes and be like hey, darby Allin, we're gonna give you a lot more money than them and we're gonna make you a star instantly. And then they do it.

Speaker 2: 25:07

In a nutshell look at, look at ricky starks I'm sorry, not ricky starks, that ricky saints. Look at penta. They said right, but it's like ricky saints, ethan page, goddamn jade. Look what they at. Look what Ethan Page.

Speaker 1: 25:27

Goddamn Jade, look where they at Look what they doing. I don't know about Phoenix right now, though. I don't know about Phoenix right now, though they doing my boy dirty.

Speaker 2: 25:37

They doing my boy dirty. Listen, I said it last week, like Because at least with Penta there's reasons by it and there's a story being pushed by it. Phoenix, he's just taking these L's dog, he's just taking these L's and I don't like it.

Speaker 1: 25:56

But I mean he got his Wrestlemania moment. You know, for someone who just came in the business, just came into WWE, he at least got his Wrestlemania moment immediately which is crazy.

Speaker 2: 26:09

No one ever gets. That never happens. And of course, it happened to one of their, a past good, well, decently shown AEW star. So it's like, but um, but yeah, so, but yeah, so that there's that whole thing, I, I'm on the fence, I would like to believe and I'm I won't say I like to believe, but I feel that the information I got from our group chat, it, it makes perfect sense, and it and I got from our group chat, it makes perfect sense. And, considering where they stand, it's hard for me to say that that's probably not the case. However, at the same time, boy, oh boy, it's kind of coinkydinky, don't you think?

Speaker 1: 27:00

You got a point. I'm not disagreeing at all. It is definitely a thing.

Speaker 2: 27:05

There's a merit for both arguments to be had. However, there's a merit for both arguments to be had and where I do believe the fact that WWE actually does not give a damn. And this is like hey, listen, we're not doing it because we're trying to fuck them over, we're doing this because this is where the money can be made and, honestly, that's what I believe. But, at the same time, it's all like but you know, it could help, but hey, if it happens, it happens right, but that's that bit, and that's just the stuff happening outside of wrestling, Inside of actual wrestling right now. There is so many things popping off right now, Like I wanted to talk about the pay-per-views, one pay-per-view versus the other. However, I'm pretty certain it's easy to say that NXT was great, but AEW was definitely better Ten times Like now. Granted, I also do think fuck, AEW got four hours. The pay-per-view was they packed so much in a pay-per-view? Was they packed so much in a pay-per-view?

Speaker 2: 28:27

like god damn it is a lot that's like my only gripe about AEW pay-per-views every pay-per-view is like a mania literally it really is.

Speaker 2: 28:43

Every pay-per-view is like a mania and it's not like they didn't write after the paper. They had a whole special going on, so it's like but freaking, talk about Raw real quick. Number one, my boy, brunson, is back. Okay, and I am just solely from brunson reed. I'm enjoying this whole thing with seth rollins. All right, seth, although I like how they did not answer the question like why brunson weed reed joined, because when they was talking about him in the ring, they was all like you know, brunson reed is the only person who literally almost killed Seth Rollins they beat him up they digged him up, they gassed him up oh yeah, they super gassed him, but it's all like okay.

Speaker 2: 29:37

So yeah, we know that Brunson Reed is a force of nature and he is something to be reckoned with, and you know, we know how he did what he did to Seth Rollins. But why did he join Seth Rollins? They didn't they really didn't answer that, unless.

Speaker 1: 29:54

I missed it. It definitely felt like you know, if you can't beat him, join him.

Speaker 2: 30:00

Maybe that's what it was and that's what I'm just assuming, but I try not to just assume. Yeah, but it's like that was a whole deal for me. I was like, alright, yeah, gas, gas, gas, gas, gas. And he's here, that's it. Okay, alright, but like I'm enjoying the direction that they're going with this whole rigmarole, and.

Speaker 2: 30:32

I'm just waiting to see where the payoff is going to lead to later on down the road. Now, lyra, listen, lyra, she's been doing stuff. She's been doing it for me, like she was that person. What at the beginning? You're like, all right, I don't know what you are, I don't know what you're going to do, but I'm waiting. But, fam, she came out there with daggers on her tongue, dog, like she came out there, cut the meanest promo, talking some mad shit. To the point where I was like the fact that Becky Lynch came out there. Still, I was like, oh, she's mad, mad.

Speaker 2: 31:13

I didn't write down exactly what she said. But, fam, some of the points that Lyra was, some of the points that she was putting on Becky Lynch, I'm like yo, lyra out here, like take that here, like take that bitch, take that shit, right, bam. I'm talking take that bitch, take that bam. She was, listen, if her tongue was daggers, yo, she murdered her with the shank, like straight up. I'm like, alright, lyra, hell, yeah, that's our Intercontinental champion, that's what we want to see. None of this stuff that Selena Vega's doing right now. You know what I'm saying. Like, give me that.

Speaker 1: 31:59

Lyra.

Speaker 2: 32:00

Yeah, intercontinental title over US title always, but um.

Speaker 1: 32:05

Yeah, we ain't gonna talk about that Selena Vega stuff, but anyway, it's not a good ring.

Speaker 2: 32:11

Looking at my notes, you're correct. We're not gonna talk about Selena Vega, but uh, Freakin'. I tuned in to NXT for one thing to see our TNA champion and he came out there and you know, talking his hot garbage Right Now.

Speaker 1: 32:31

Before I actually do say that, though, I just want to give Ethan Page and Ricky their props Another AEW guy, by the way, just want to point that out, you mean the AEew guys well, yeah, that's what I'm saying because we mentioned ricky starks and he also had to remember ethan page and ethan page wanted to be a champion, so bad at aew, and they just weren't having it and he ends up being what a two-time champion in wdb right now, like a, and this we're talking about like not just the heavyweight title, but just champion in general.

Speaker 2: 33:06

Yes, he's had two belts now and it's like one of those things where it's like man, they really dropped the ball on both of these guys and I know for a fact when it comes to Ricky, they definitely dropped the ball Like Ethan Page. I just feel like he just got lost in translation with the AEW wave, but he was also there in AEW during a period that they were ass, so it is what it be, but their match that they had, and now he took his belt from them.

Speaker 1: 33:42

North American champion.

Speaker 2: 33:44

That match fantastic. If you haven't watched it, watch that, because they've been doing that whole thing where they're just like super butting heads to the point where they're like fuck the rules, I just want to beat dog shit out of this other guy right now. Fuck the rules. But yeah, aside from that, trick and A Okay, I fucks with Trick Williams, alright, and the promo that he cut, this heel persona that he's trying to do, uh-oh, I feel it's, it's being I don't think trick is comfortable with the position that he's in right now. Like, I feel, like trick does not want to be a heel. I I, yeah, like I feel, yeah, I more so feel that his heel persona comes off just a little fake, just a little bit. It's not natural. Yeah, he's trying, he's in his Hollywood era right now, type thing.

Speaker 2: 35:06

I specifically made sure I watched a little bit of TNA because he was going to be on TNA to say something and he does not show up to TNA but he records a video talking about how he was going to show up, but like he was only going to show up if he was flying first class or if he was first class, or like he was only going to show up if he was flying first class or first class or if he was supposed to be flying private, he needed to have the five star hotel room and enough room for his entourage.

Speaker 2: 35:41

He was like I checked what they was going to give me, they had me riding coach, they had me in a regular hotel and my entourage wasn't having it, so I decided not to show up, type thing. And so and he's going on about this I'm just like all right, trick, nice, sober, hollywood trick right now is what we're doing. Okay, but like, I'm just like alright, trick, sober, hollywood Trick right now is what we're doing, but I'm not feeling it enough. He doesn't do. I don't feel like he's healing up, he's not heal enough, kind of thing, because the other thing that I see when I see him trying to be healed unfortunately it's like he him trying to be healed is like him trying to be a uh, uh, more over the top version of what williams is not williams. Goddamn him, goddamn Carmelo.

Speaker 1: 36:46

Hayes.

Speaker 2: 36:50

Yeah, it's like he's trying to be Carmelo Hayes, but he's trying to be Carmelo Hayes but better and it's not working or he can't quite nail it type situation. But now they got him being lined up to take on damn, what's his name?

Speaker 2: 37:11

Santana I believe it was Like because then Santana comes out there and is like, nah, I'm going to bring this TNA title back home. And it's crazy. Because it's like because Santana, you know he is a hood bodiqua, know, I'm saying like a new Eureka type guy, all right. And then trick Williams, is this fake Hollywood suburb nigga?

Speaker 1: 37:34

my thing about it is, like I've seen, mike Santana is still currently like the HOG heavyweight champion. He's probably been been a champion for like a really long time and he faced against cedric alexander recently because like cedric alexander just got out of his uh 90 day clause and I watched that match and I was like I don't, like I've known santana because obviously lax. And then you know what he did in aew and I'm really sad that you know him and his part. You know tag tag team partner. I can't remember his name right now, but like they had to split and because of just differences and stuff like that. And you know, and it's just like how you had that we had the conversation about you know who you got to put bread on the table and that literally was it.

Speaker 1: 38:21

But the thing about it is too, it's like as a tag team you were putting bread on the table but he was like man, I just want to do a singles career and it was like, nah, you know, we should really just keep doing this tag team thing. He's like this is cool, but I kind of just want to try some single stuff and in that complication, everything. But I say all that is I. I have yet to grasp him as a singles competitor, yet I know he's done a couple of matches. It just don't feel right. Does that make sense?

Speaker 2: 38:54

Oh no, I feel that it's how I feel about what was the acclaim. Alright, because now they've split up and now they're doing their own things and it's like platinum max caster or whatever. Uh, max casting, raise wrestler, there's that stupid. And then his homie, um uh, his always, but with his special, his finishing move, the molly whop, like. Now I have to at least give him some credit because he's got, he puts on a banger of a match, like he surprises me, kind of thing. But it's just that whole deal of like, like.

Speaker 1: 39:45

But y'all was so better like this literally, you were so much better as a tag team. It's kind of like how, when, when WWE was like hey, let's split up Devon and Bubba, and it's like, why would you do that? Like that's stupid, like that's literally them.

Speaker 2: 40:00

Devon and Bubba comes and or just remains a Dudley boy, which is kind of sort of what's happening with these two, because you know, one is this you know what's this little gimmick thing that he says like he's, like he's the top five, something another or whatever, and then he's actually serious freaking the acclaimed boys oh, okay, I thought you was talking about, like I thought we were still on the deadly boys topic, sorry.

Speaker 2: 40:33

Well, making the comparison, though, is the fact that you know, um, damn, his name, his name is gonna like hit me later on. I'll be like, why the fuck do I not remember it? But it's like you know, he's on this hand, you know, with his finishing move, the mollywop, which is just funny to me, but uh, it's like you know he's. He's having these banger of matches and whatnot. He's got this whole. You know, I'm like this, this five, this five, something that he always says, that, what he is, he's like the five tier player or something like that. That's like his little he is. He's like the five tier player or something like that. That's like his little moniker he's going with right now and that and I would say that is comparatively speaking, the bubba ray side, where it's like they go off and they because he still does the scissoring thing. So, and he's got billy, he's got daddy ass with him.

Speaker 1: 41:22

It's, it's, it's almost like the equivalent of when jay usoso or when Roman Reigns split from the group and you're still using the same fucking theme song.

Speaker 2: 41:33

Yeah, and so it's like you know, he's still got the scissors, he's still got daddy ass with him and he is the five tool player. That's the way it is right. Five tool, five tool player, that's what it is right. While we got max caster, greatest wrestler alive, out here getting jobbed the fuck out, disgracing the good name of platinum, which kills me, here you go like. I'm just like wow.

Speaker 1: 42:01

Not you giving shit.

Speaker 2: 42:03

Like that. It's not like I wasn't going to use the whole platinum thing, but now you're making me regret it Like, god damn, maybe I Anyway, but it's like he's taking the Reverend Diva on Rob where he's being goofy and stupid and getting his ass beat every night Barely relevant anymore, but needless to say, with going on beat every night barely relevant anymore, but, needless to say, with going on talking about. Aew, though. Oh, and also before I move on from TNA or NXT, lapamera dropped the belt wait um Stephanie.

Speaker 1: 42:42

Oh yeah, yeah, we knew that was happening. She's going main roster dude, wait Stephanie.

Speaker 2: 42:45

Oh, yeah, we knew that was happening.

Speaker 1: 42:47

She's going main roster dude.

Speaker 2: 42:50

I mean something like that. But it was just interesting that they just randomly did it on a random episode of NXT, like it was. The even crazier thing was the fact like everyone's reaction, like everyone reacted like that wasn't supposed to happen, like the crowd, they were shook, even old girl. When she got the pin she got up like Like was that supposed to happen?

Speaker 2: 43:21

Did I fucking do that. She was lost. And then her friends came to her and were like, yeah, you fucking did that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was an interesting scene how all that went down. So I am curious to see where that is going to move forward with, because right now would be a really awkward time to send Stephanie Valkyr to the main roster with all of the money in the bank stuff going on, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1: 43:59

I think that's the reason why they're doing that, because the shake-up.

Speaker 2: 44:07

Well, I mean now, if that's what you're, I don't know when, when do you know when that's supposed to be happening? Is that they?

Speaker 1: 44:12

said. They said that there wasn't supposed to be a draft.

Speaker 2: 44:15

They're just going to shake some up oh, but I'm just saying like for her to just move over there right now in the middle of the Money in the Bank stuff is like number one to me, a little dangerous. Unless they got her, I mean great, they also have the Worlds Collide shit that's going on. So there's that. So maybe it might have something to do with that particular bit. Not entirely sure, but yeah, it was a good match. It's going to be interesting for her to be on a different show that Booker T's not on with his horny ass. Fucking. Listen, man, booker T be killing me with that shit, bro, like that Booker T be killing me with that shit, bro. But um, to get to the good shit though. First off, hangman, adam Page versus Will Ospreay, when I tell you that they did it without repetitive false finishes and they made and they made that match that good, as they did to follow up after anarchy in the arena.

Speaker 1: 45:36

Yeah, you had to really follow up really nicely with that match because, like the biggest thing about anarchy in the arena it was it, arena, it was, it was a lot. It was crazy, but it was so good. I'm sorry, very, very fun.

Speaker 2: 45:55

This one funny enough. This is like swerve secular, but I think this particular Anarchy in Arena, this one took the cake so far, Having the bodies hit the floor and Arena. This one took the cake, so far, I mean having the bodies hit, the floor and everything.

Speaker 2: 46:13

But their match, god damn. I loved it because I feel as if that once again, whoever has the keys to the kitchen right now they're cooking, they are cooking up wonderful meals right now and they're they have they are going to bring this restaurant. It's like somewhere. It's like they got Gordon Ramsay to come in there and be all like all right, this kitchen is absolute dog shit. I'm going gonna give you guys new equipment. We're gonna do a reopening of this bitch.

Speaker 2: 46:49

It's fucking real Listen, listen, the prior pay-per-views, all that stuff that I was talking about. Yeah, they were serving us raw chicken and fucked up scallops, Okay. And then after the, after the previous pay-per-view double or nothing, what was it? It was double or nothing. Was the last one? No, the one prior. We just got them watching double or nothing, but the other one, which had the fucking um, that wasn't revolution. Whatever that pay-per-view was, whatever it was, yeah.

Speaker 1: 47:23

Whatever that pay-per-view was, whatever that pay-per-view was.

Speaker 2: 47:28

They hired Gordon Ramsay and they was like alright, listen, we're gonna remake this kitchen, we're gonna give you new equipment, we're gonna teach you guys how to actually fucking cook some shit here. We're going to give you guys stuff that you can actually cook and we're going to give you stuff that you can actually cook and we're going to run this shit back and we're going to do a brand grand opening of this whole thing. And for the last couple of weeks that's exactly what they've been doing. They have been serving up this new recipe. They've been giving us great. I mean, they've always had good matches.

Speaker 2: 48:05

So there's that piece, that part. I will not ever say that they don't give us good matches, outside of the fact of these goddamn false finishes. But ever since that false finish riddled pay-per-view that they had prior, where Jon Moxley won and I'm like, wow, this is fucking stupid and I almost didn't watch it, watch it no more. They've been cooking better, they've got new recipes, they're doing better things, they've made it interesting and they've still. They've even fixed the formula of how they do their matches. Fam, that match between the two of them, billy Goat versus the cowboy, like on some real cowboy shit, dog, like that. The fact that they was able to have that match be the last match and the fact that they was able to shine bright enough, at least in my eyes, to be like yep, know what? Y'all took this to another level that the Anarchy in the Arena match could not do, and I am satisfied with this match, I'm floored.

Speaker 2: 49:11

But then they continued it because Hangman, adam Page, coming out there giving his little talk, but then, when Swerve came out, I'm telling you, bro, swerve and Hangman, like Stone Cold, steve Austin's and rock levels of like heat and chemistry that they got going on dog, like listen, bro, you cannot tell me that the story that these two have had for these last like that the story and these two have had for the last like that the story and the matches, okay, and then the story is continuing and it's still fucking good. You know what I'm saying. Like they, it's very hard. Like I could use, like for wwe right now. It's very hard for them to do that anymore. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2: 50:02

Like since Rock and Stone Cold, triple H and Shawn Michaels you know, shawn Michaels and Undertaker, you know, like I would say the closest to like a really good, long like really good kind of like these two, even though they may not be directly in a story with each other, the tension from their past feud is still there and it makes sense, and they will easily just revolt back to when they was doing that, even though they've been on opposite sides for a hot minute, like wwe has not been able to do that for a while, like I can't remember the last time something similar to that nature has been a thing.

Speaker 1: 50:50

I think remember I even sent you this post before we started the pod. I was like bro, that moment when like I'm just kind of picking off of what you're saying that moment when Austin came from Backlash and helped out the Rock, when have we had really crazy moments like that in wrestling, where it was just the loudest pop everybody's feeding for it? It's such a big moment, you know.

Speaker 2: 51:15

And with Hangman Adam Page in Swerve right now, whether or not if the crowd, if they can get a big enough crowd to get a pop in that particular way. But it comparably speaking from the two big brands right now, wwe does not have that right now they don't have anything close to it, they don't have a reoccurring rivalry.

Speaker 2: 51:41

That can happen. Or you know, like, uh, like one of those moments where it's like they haven't fought each other in a hot minute but as soon as they see each other in the ring, you know it's on site. Or it's like they get each other's faces like, oh, so you think I forgot? No, I didn't forget shit. No, we can run this right now. Yeah, nigga, let's run this right now. All right, run it, run it and you know. And then they then they start going at it.

Speaker 2: 52:13

Hangman, adam, page and swerve have that and it has been happening throughout aew up until this point and now, with what they got going on, because now hangman is being looked at as the golden child. Right now he is the Jesus of AEW to get rid of and flush away the sin. That is Jon Moxley and Will Ospreay is trying to find Jesus' 12 disciples to help secure this bag. Because since Will Ospreay did not win the match and Hangman did, hangman is the only one that can free that belt from the grips. That is Jon Moxley and his team type thing. But I do like the fact because this also goes into collision, right, because swerve out there he's all like hey, yo listen, what you did is all fine and dandy and whatnot, but like um, you know, I was supposed to have that belt. And then your boys yeah, like, did you?

Speaker 1: 53:18

did you actually get the bucks to you know, know, help you out and shit like that? Like what? What was going on there?

Speaker 2: 53:25

And so I, I love, like I once again their interactions with each other is like cause it's one of those deals where it's like he wants to find out, but because they just fucking hate each other so deeply, it's like he gives him a straight answer. But it's like he gives him a straight answer, but it's like it's not enough. Not only is it not enough, but the way that he gave the answer he's like listen, dumbass. I was like damn, all right, yeah, you didn't do that, all right, dumbass.

Speaker 2: 54:00

He said that shit with his whole chest, bro. It's like all right, dumb ass, hey he. He said the fact that, not, that wasn't me. If it was me I would have came out there, I would have did my fucking self. That's where it was like valid, you're full of shit, dog. And then here we have the resident billy goat coming out there and be all like listen, listen, listen, swerve I, you know me all right, we've come up with this business, blah, blah. But like I fought this guy last week or this past, this past sunday he's not the nigga you was fucking with a minute ago I could tell you right now what he says is legit. He didn't do that shit, swerve's like, if you don't get your ass out of my face, fuck this man. I don't care what you say.

Speaker 1: 55:02

You're full of shit. It was like straight up went into it. No, I'm. I'm aware they can say certain swear words nowadays. It's just like one of those.

Speaker 2: 55:11

It catches you off guard every fucking time, every time, and I'm just like the fact, and then for for him to be all like listen, I know y'all had y'all's differences, but like and I think this is the part that gets me and why I'm like I can't wait to see where this is going to go Is the fact that Swerve, he's all like listen, screw him. I should have been champion, but I'm not now Kind of thing. And so, just like how I had to fight and claw to get to the position where I was going to get that belt, that's what he's going to have to do as well. Kind of thing. Because like, what's-his-name is trying to get him to join sides and he's all like whoa, wait, wait, wait. You want me, me, swerve, to join sides? And he's all like whoa, wait, wait, wait. You want me, me, swerve, to join up with Hangman out of pick. You know, get that dumb shit out my face.

Speaker 2: 56:12

At collision they showed another thing where he's talking and he's doing like he goes out there. He's like cause Swerve is about to leave. He's like Swerve, swerve. You gotta hear me out, bro. He is our best chance of he goes out there. He's like because Swerve is about to leave. He's like Swerve, swerve. You gotta hear me out, bro. He is our best chance of getting that belt off of him. Okay, like right now he is, and this is where he fucked up. He was like right now he is the best wrestler in this business. Swerve's like alright, I'm gonna stop you right, fucking there, he is not the best wrestler here.

Speaker 1: 56:39

Okay. What's funny about it is this is the equivalent of Frieza and Goku saying hey, we kind of have to team up to to be a Jaren bro Like we got to team up and right now.

Speaker 2: 56:55

But it's, it's, it's that. But the fact that Goku actually does not want to join up with Frieza type thing, and then we got, and then we and of all people, we got fucking Vegeta out here is like listen, if we want to get some shit done, you guys actually need to do the thing, cause if y'all don't and swerve right out here just like fam. He was so disrespected when he said that shit, they actually went to blows on collision, like they literally started throwing hands with like, like, cause, like, cause, he cause. What was it? Osprey pushed him, I think Osprey, uh, well, no, swerve pushed him. Osprey pushed back and Swerve just started swinging.

Speaker 1: 57:41

Overall, overall, I feel like that whole scenario and Swerve just started swinging Overall. I feel like that whole scenario, just Hangman, and you know pretty much Hangman and Swerve. It's the story that's never going to get old. It's never going to get old and it's just going to keep getting better and better.

Speaker 2: 58:02

And I need it to to. I absolutely need it to like, as well as things. I'm like oh, this is the one thing that I hope they don't mess up, and I feel like at this point, it's really hard for them to screw it up. You know what I'm saying. Now talk about your girl, though.

Speaker 1: 58:19

Timeless tony oh bro, she cooked. She cooked Monet in that promo. I don't give a fuck. She cooked her ass, dog.

Speaker 2: 58:29

I've. I've never wanted to see Mercedes match happen ever than what I actually do now. I'm locked in for this match, as you should be Now. I will easily say I've loved Sasha Banks' matches. Sasha Banks was cool, mercedes Monet, but the little spat that those two have with each other, oh yeah, I like that shit. And what's cool is like which. I know they didn't allude to any of it. However, it did make me kind of think with some of the ways that they was kind of moving and talking, because it's like I was there when Toni Storm walked out of the WWE. It was at a house show and it was a triple threat match. It was Sasha Banks, toni Storm and Charlotte Flair.

Speaker 1: 59:38

And I believe Charlotte Flair went over, but it was like I knew something.

Speaker 2: 59:40

Wasn't it the pie in the face thing?

Speaker 2: 59:41

No, no, no, no, no. Like I said, this was like a like a house show in orlando, just a random house show in orlando on like a tuesday, and like I just remember, I remember watching that match and like it was really good and like her and, uh, her and sasha at the time, like they was, they was killing it in that match and I remember like I knew there was something weird going on, because, like the way that tony storm left and she kind of sort of like they kind of sort of like hugged it out a little bit type deals, like oh, that's it, that's different. And then just to find out, oh, because she walked completely out of company, understood, but like, going back to this, though their promo that they had, like they, it went from me not caring about mercedes in this match to like, okay, all right, I'm watching, y'all got me, you got me interested. And that's pretty hard right now when it comes to Mercedes, because, but and I really hope she loses I need her to lose this match.

Speaker 1: 1:00:53

Because if she wins, I will riot I will freaking riot.

Speaker 2: 1:01:03

I need her to lose this match because when she loses, you know, her undefeated streak is broken and I feel as if that after that we're going to get the bankruptcy of the CEO situation, probably. Yes, where she's going to like spiral downward and then, hopefully, after this, is when my girl, my AEW queen, megan Bain, oh, here we go, bro.

Speaker 1: 1:01:26

I think you just got a thing for muscle mommies, bro. That's what it is, dog.

Speaker 2: 1:01:34

Listen, listen, all right, maybe, maybe, maybe I'm not supremely into muscle mommies, but there's a couple of them that do it for me, and Megan Bain is one. I mean, everyone loves Rhea Ripley, okay, so it's like that's an unfair judgment if that's what you was judging me by. And Bianca Belair, you know, okay, sure, I mean I guess. And Bianca Belair, you know, okay, sure, I mean I guess.

Speaker 1: 1:02:06

Now there was a point where Charlotte Flair, as muscle and toned as she is, she wasn't muscle mommy, she's just more so muscle fit mommy. Does that make sense? Like she's like fit mommy?

Speaker 2: 1:02:21

That's a reach, but I'm only going to call it a reach, but I'm only gonna call it a reach. I can't agree with you that Charlotte Flair is a muscle mom, but because, like she don't, she don't just be throwing bitches around, she's tall, she's bulky. I mean, she is in shape, that's what I said?

Speaker 1: 1:02:46

I said thing yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:02:48

Yeah, she's in shape, but she's not a muscle, not completely. But I'm saying I can't, no, not even completely all, right all right, all right, listen we. We have seen what Rhea Ripley's done. Rhea Ripley has tossed my Queen Charlotte around you don't see Charlotte Flair tossing bitches. You see her tapping bitches out, but not just tossing bitches.

Speaker 1: 1:03:16

If you're a muscle miner, you gotta toss somebody ok, ok, well, in general, you have people who have queen concepts, and charlotte flair has a queen concept, and so does megan bain listen, I like queens, oh, this this, this, this. So you want to be a peasant, you want to be a jester all right, listen, depends on what the job gives and what it pays.

Speaker 2: 1:03:47

Listen, I will roll the carpet out for charlotte flair, not this level of riz, oh my god I will. I will roll this carpet out for charlotte flair. If megan bain needs a jester, fuck it. I'm in, because at the end of the day, i'ma get my pat on the head. You know what I'm saying. It is what it is. I'll do it if I got to, but still, until I get hired, this is what I do. I boost and I push them up like they deserve to be.

Speaker 1: 1:04:19

I can't even say it's de-licking or de-riding it's.

Speaker 2: 1:04:22

I can't even say it's de-licking or de-riding, it's see, you can't call it that only because you can't, because they've earned it.

Speaker 1: 1:04:31

Megan Bain has not earned it yet she's already earned it.

Speaker 1: 1:04:38

Yes, okay, if you're talking about match wise, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm talking about legacy-wise Charlotte. That makes sense, okay, she's had multiple championships on her belt, from NXT to both titles. Megan Bain is just hitting the picture and she's already a queen Already. Listen, just because she laid some bitches out, awesome Kong. Well then, awesome Kong should have been your queen Already. Listen, just because she laid some bitches out, awesome Kong. Well then, awesome Kong should have been your queen. What was that?

Speaker 2: 1:05:09

No, awesome Kong was a monster and she wanted to be nothing else but one. Alright, she was not queen-presenting, okay.

Speaker 1: 1:05:20

Okay, so queen-like concept. Characters where they're like I am a goddess, I am someone who should. Characters where they're like I am a goddess, I am someone who should be worshipped and loved. That is the thing you like.

Speaker 2: 1:05:30

Okay, I guess if that's what you're trying to say, then sure. However, at the same time, what I'm saying is the fact that Megan Bain has earned it and she is proceeding to continue to. It'd be one thing if she came out there and presented herself as a queen and then got dog walked or something. That'd be one thing you could become cool when you start winning titles.

Speaker 1: 1:05:58

to me, that's just how it is for me.

Speaker 2: 1:06:03

Well, I guess maybe that's why you're sitting here, queenless.

Speaker 1: 1:06:08

No, no, no, no, no, because I don't have to have a queen, because mine is timeless. My woman is timeless. She could be a queen, has a reign, she has an era. She will one day have to pass down the throne. Mine is timeless. She has no heir. The reign is forever. So technically she's better than a queen. Boom.

Speaker 2: 1:06:33

I can't agree with all that. Get the fuck out of here bro, I can't stay inside with you with all that.

Speaker 1: 1:06:42

So you're telling me Tony Storm is not better than Megan Bain? You telling me that right now.

Speaker 2: 1:06:48

I mean, let me see here, tony Storm did beat her.

Speaker 1: 1:06:54

Swag, don't do this. Swag, don't do this. Don't do it by the skin of her teeth, don't do it.

Speaker 2: 1:07:00

Swag, don't do it.

Speaker 1: 1:07:03

Swag, Don't do it, Swag, Don't do it, Swag, Don't do it, because you know what you're fucking doing and you're trying to maneuver that shit around when you know what is real and just speak it. It's like you're trying to, you're trying to, like I look on a technicality. Maybe it did lose to a roll-up but-up, but that's what's coming out right now but am I wrong, though?

Speaker 2: 1:07:29

am I wrong? But you're still not accepting. I will accept the fact that sure, she did get the one up on her, but they haven't ran it back since. Let that be noted as well. All right, same results. All right, mm-hmm.

Speaker 1: 1:07:48

All right, it's not Megan Mane's time yet, man, she's still a little green. You know what I'm saying? Give her some time.

Speaker 2: 1:07:56

Listen, I'm not saying that it's whether it's not her time or not. All I'm saying is the fact that I acknowledge her, queen of it and, unlike you, I can see royalty in her. You don't want to. You don't want to give it to her because you're like, oh she's new, she just got here, she just beat up a couple of girls, sure blah so you're saying you're following the prophecy before without having to wait for it.

Speaker 1: 1:08:27

You're just like I'm going to let it cook. I already feel like it's a thing. I'm going to let it cook.

Speaker 2: 1:08:32

Let me put this to perspective for you here. When Charlotte Flair first came up on the scene, I chose her out of what was considered the four horse women. I chose her out of what was considered the four horsewomen. All right, I picked Charlotte.

Speaker 2: 1:08:47

I've been with Charlotte before the big titties and the nose job, okay, I've been with Charlotte Flair since before she was doing figure eights and she was doing that one move where she just kind of like jumped it's a jump over cutter, all right, weights. And she was doing that one move where she just kind of like jump, it's a jump over cutter, all right. Oh, you don't even know, you don't remember the move. Yeah, because she ain't done in a minute, all right, like it used to be her finish. But it's not her finish anymore, okay, but like um.

Speaker 2: 1:09:19

So I've been with her since then, okay, and I've made it very clear that I've been with her since then. Okay, and I've made it very clear that I've been with her since then. And this was before she even truly considered herself a queen. You know what happened when she became queen? I became the most hated person in the group chat. Why most hated person in the group chat? Why? Because number one. I wasn't dick riding because I've been here since day one okay and then number two she could, and she number two.

Speaker 2: 1:09:54

She continued to prove herself as to why she should be considered as such. There is not one person in our group chat who, charlotte has not made very upset about beating them and taking the belt from them, because that's what she does, all right. And so, considering that I have been with her from day one till now, it is undeniable of her queenhood, and I foresaw that she would be that particular queen. Aew's Megan Bain right now, just like you, you don't see the forecoming prophecy. Okay, as Paul Heyman would say, what I'm saying isn't a spoiler.

Speaker 1: 1:10:49

Okay. No, it's not a prediction, it's a spoiler.

Speaker 2: 1:10:54

It is prophecy, it's going to happen. Megan Bain is going to take that belt, she's just dealing with it. Boy, oh boy, did she beat the brakes off of those bitches the other night?

Speaker 1: 1:11:06

And y'all Shorty was bloody, Bloody. I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 2: 1:11:12

she didn't even blip and so so, yes, I stand, I see it and when everything happens, and you will continue to ride.

Speaker 1: 1:11:23

Got it?

Speaker 2: 1:11:25

So listen, All I want to say when it comes crashing down and it hurts inside. Don't come hollering at me, Because I'm just going to be all like I told you you know what.

Speaker 1: 1:11:41

It's okay, because when you have the answers, I just change the questions. Okay, speaking of changing the question, let's actually get into the fucking topic of the day, which was supposed to be catchphrases, which I find it funny. You did a catchphrase and had to counter your catchphrase with my catchphrase. So, um, but yes, today's topic, outside of the hour, 15 minutes of just ranting about wrestling uh, we were going to talk about some of the the greatest catchphrase that was.

Speaker 2: 1:12:27

That one Off the top of my head, no. Roddy Piper okay, okay, I remember. So I'll be honest with you when it comes to catchphrases, unless it found a way to apply to like everyday life, for me, they don't normally stick too good, or at least they will stick for a little bit wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, motherfucking wait.

Speaker 1: 1:13:00

Breaking news R-Truth and Carlito are released by WWE.

Speaker 2: 1:13:08

Oh, that was something I was going to get at. Yes, that was news. I saw like 9, 10 o'clock this morning and there's a tweet. At first it was a tweet and then the group chat looked into it and it was discovered to be true. So R-Truth's last match was fighting Mateo.

Speaker 1: 1:13:33

His last match was actually fighting his childhood hero. But then you're right, he fought Jeff Cobb. Wait, was it Jeff Cobb?

Speaker 2: 1:13:46

That's what I said Mateo, mateo, oh yeah, I forgot his name. Yeah, I forgot his name. I'm technically, I do like that. They said his. They still give him the jc, which stands for jeff cobb's. But yeah, but the they're. But what they're making their money off of is mateo yeah, stupid but it is what I mean. It's stupid for him that he accepted it. Mateo is a weird name. Actually, I can't even say it's a weird name, because I got a homie whose actual name is Mateo.

Speaker 1: 1:14:09

But this is the thing I gotta see. If that's like, you know, what kind of connection is that? But either way, that was just a real quick break our truth bit. I'm not sorry the carlito bit, it's new yeah, um, I just got news about this potentially has happened as well um car lido there's more information he's 46 years old, yeah he's been around yeah, they were not. No, he's been around. Yeah, they were not. No, he's not released. I think they're just not renewing his contract.

Speaker 2: 1:14:45

Oh, which also makes sense. Listen, since Carlyle's come back, he hasn't really had an actual match. He's been as I was saying, he gets his one bump a night.

Speaker 1: 1:14:59

He got speared, he got paid for it.

Speaker 2: 1:15:02

Listen, he gets TV time one bump a night and he goes home and he gets paid. Oh, are you saying that? Which actually was the one little last thing I did want to say about, because with SmackDown there wasn't a whole bunch of stuff that I think really was like super big that happened on SmackDown. But one thing I did want to say is that the women's money in the bank is hot as fuck right now and I think the women's money in the bank is going to be so much better than the guys one it's been that way for the last couple of years.

Speaker 1: 1:15:37

Man, the women's matches are kind of a little bit better than the guys.

Speaker 2: 1:15:41

Well, but see like, but see the build, specifically the build-up, because, yes, the women always somehow end up outperforming the guys, Right, which that has been a thing. But the build-up, though, leading into the Money in the Bank, Like I think this is the hottest. The females' Money in the Bank has been built, Especially with how SmackDown was going. The women's Money in the Bank is getting so hyped up right now that I'm just like man, the men's one is looking. It just feels boring, which is crazy.

Speaker 1: 1:16:21

It's crazy to say yes.

Speaker 2: 1:16:24

But like that was the one main point that I wanted to put out there. That and the fact that, like Naomi coming out there confronting Bianca and was all like very stalker-like, oh my God, yeah, that whole bit and then and then, but but then it's like she, she flipped the script was all. I listen, I'll beat your ass, it's like well okay, now, all right, naomi. All right, naomi, you boy, she crazy right now, and I guess. But these catchphrases, proceed with caution.

Speaker 1: 1:17:00

Yes, so catchphrases. So that first one was roddy, roddy piper and I found a, a game that was like, hey, you know, try to see if you can say a catchphrase without actually saying it in the, the tone and everything and that person can catch it. And uh, I had a couple of them like that, right, uh. But in general I just wanted to have the conversation on just the best catchphrases of all time and to see if you know what was your favorite kind of growing up, if you had a favorite or if you had a contender that was considered a favorite catchphrase before.

Speaker 2: 1:17:37

I kind of went into this I don't think I've ever had like a true favorite. There's always catchphrases that I like, and then there are also catchphrases that I like hold near and dear, like to the point where I'm like I'd legitimately just steal that and just make it my own. Like what is there? Well, number one when it comes to like favorite catchphrases, or I would say catchphrases that I just use in like everyday talk, like number one.

Speaker 1: 1:18:12

Joker sting.

Speaker 2: 1:18:14

Ta-ta, for now, that's how I end my conversations. And then there's um, oh, what's the other one? Because there's another one that I do very often say, but now it's, now, I'm, now, I'm drawing a blank, because I I didn't write any of these. Wasn't the world big show? Well, that's not even a catchphrase.

Speaker 1: 1:18:41

Yeah, maybe that's one of the things that you do often.

Speaker 2: 1:18:43

But it is a catchphrase of mine, yeah, but like ooh. See, now I have to rethink about it. Do you remember the wrestler's name at least? Oh, the dog, I don't even I can recall like whose catchphrase it was per se, but um, but I mean, but once I know that I do use, often, like nowadays, as far as like from current, catchphrases like uh, you know, la night let me talk to you yeah, yeah I the only reason why I don't do that is because I try not to yell in the house a lot.

Speaker 2: 1:19:30

There was a time that I did, but then, like my son feels like, oh well, if daddy can yell all the time, then maybe I can yell. I was like no, son, you're too loud, you're too loud and then when I do that? And then, of course, whenever I do, that, if I'm loud, my son would be like daddy, you're too loud.

Speaker 1: 1:19:48

I'm like let me be, let me be daddy.

Speaker 2: 1:19:54

It's a freaking battle, kid Like so, but if you can come up with it at some point, please, uh, oh no I'm, I'm going to comp, I'm going to contemplate what is like the other catchphrase I do use often or we'll just, it'll just come out and I'll just say it casually, okay, and every once in a while someone will catch that and be like hey, that's so-and-so Okay.

Speaker 1: 1:20:24

When it comes to catchphrases, I mean I don't. I never really had a super like. That was my favorite of all time. I mean, obviously I'm an Austin fan, so that's the bottom line. Because Stone Cold says so, the Rock's catchphrases are obviously some of the best of all time there. That's hands down, you know. Um, finally the rock has come back to whatever city he's in. Uh, obviously, if you smell what the rock is cooking, um, you know, it doesn't matter what your name is. Like all those catchases the rock is well known for that Like it's hands down, but none of them are like best catchphrase of all time for me.

Speaker 2: 1:21:05

Um, I don't think I, I don't think I honestly, truthfully, have a best catchphrase of all time, and I feel like that's a good thing, cause we're both here right now what we're both here right now on that like what?

Speaker 1: 1:21:18

is like do we have one, and if not, like what are some that are really good?

Speaker 2: 1:21:21

so um I mean, I know I myself from time to time will give out a uh like, uh like, for instance like the rocks catchphrase, not even the full thing, just the finally, like you know, like I'll, I'll do finally in in the rock's voice, kind of thing. But outside of that man I'm really blanking on the catchphrase now, like the ayatollah of rock and rolla.

Speaker 1: 1:21:53

That was never, absolutely not. I never would say it. No, but like now, one thing that's one.

Speaker 2: 1:21:58

It's not a catchphrase, but something that I used to do. You know how Chris Jericho, when he would come out and he'd have his back turned, he does like that spin type deal. I used to do that shit all the time.

Speaker 1: 1:22:10

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. All the time, All the time I used to do the. Would you please shut the hell up? I I didn't used to do that at one point in my life of course, because, because you're a disrespectful son of a bitch I'm a diss, okay when somebody's saying something and I'm like could you please shut the hell up. All right, look man, I you know how rude that is. You know how rude it is, whatever they was fucking saying anyway. Um other catchphrases that there are.

Speaker 1: 1:22:41

Uh, I don't know how you literally just tried to blow past you know, that's what we gonna do.

Speaker 2: 1:22:46

So, uh, we have john cena, we have john cena, you want some, come get some.

Speaker 1: 1:22:53

There's that catchphrase john cena, the champ is here. Uh, you obviously have Hulk Hogan. What you gonna do, wasn't it? What you gonna do, brother, when Hulkamania runs wild? I don't think you ever hit that one, do you?

Speaker 2: 1:23:07

I've never, not on a repetitive basis, or unless I'm specifically referring to something. Hulk Hogan like, like that's not gonna work for me, brother, like greatest catchphrase of all time, right there that's not gonna work for me, brother.

Speaker 1: 1:23:27

Apparently Ted DiBiase had one. I don't ever remember him saying this I'm money and you know it.

Speaker 2: 1:23:36

I'm money and you know it. No, I've never heard of that.

Speaker 1: 1:23:42

Everybody's got a price yeah, everybody has a price, but I never heard of that one. Apparently that's one, but I don't know.

Speaker 1: 1:23:49

You're saying that though but it also makes me think of mjf is I'm better than you and you know it. Like which another thing mjf is? He's, he's. He is a student of the game. He has taken a couple of catchphrases from certain people, like the greatest trick is the devil has given. The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was making you believe he doesn't exist. And and that was a jake the snake one. And mjf started saying it. So it was like but Jake the Snake was in the you know the background of AEW at that time.

Speaker 2: 1:24:23

So I'm like he's a student of the game. Yeah, he's a student of the game. I'm sure he gave that to him. Man, I would love to have Jake the Snake. Let me have something like that, like as a as a snake boy myself. Trust me, local Slytherin trust me.

Speaker 1: 1:24:41

Yes, that, as a snake boy myself, local Slytherin. Trust me, that is one Woo, woo, woo. You know it? Zack Ryder, this is my yard now. Roman Reigns Fuck, no, that was ass I was about to say Undertaker.

Speaker 2: 1:24:59

Apparently that was a Roman Reigns one, because I guess after when he Because he took it from Taker- yeah. And proceeded to take it because he beat Taker's ass. Cream of the.

Speaker 1: 1:25:13

Crock we have is Macho man Randy Savage. We all know that one Uso Penitentiary.

Speaker 2: 1:25:20

Funky Like a Monkey, better Than the Best. That's my favorite. Here comes Macho man. Oh, okay, all those things that I said are like Macho man things Cream of the Crop, funky Like a Monkey. Stars, the Limit, space is the place. Uh, I only know these things because I've done like a deep dive in macho man, because I had to be macho man for a dnd game so I used all these catchphrases that he used to say but, uh, but yeah, the funky like a monkey, um, uh, uh, sky's the limit, space is the place. You know that those are things that he did used to say a lot, and then uh, and then, when he was going through his king of the ring situation, he was always he was better than the best. He wasn't the best, he was better than the best so I remember something.

Speaker 1: 1:26:22

So another one was like um well, obviously you know bret hart is like the best, there is their best, or was their best ever will be. Um, let me see what else was there. Apparently, ryback's feed me more was on one of the best catchphrases, I guess. I'm like listen, listen.

Speaker 2: 1:26:42

As a old Ryback head, I fucked with it.

Speaker 1: 1:26:49

Because, I'll admit what I still actually have one of his shirts too.

Speaker 2: 1:26:55

Listen, I have a necklace like the bear trap necklace with the R. I got his beanie with the R on it. I got the fucking Ryback armband. Like I don't think I have his shirt, I don't think I do, but like, yeah, no, listen, I was a Ryback fan. I will easily admit I was a Ryback fan. I will easily admit Now. Granted, what he's done now and what he has come out saying, and stuff like that I don't agree with. But when he was in WWE I fucked with him. You know what I'm saying. I was out there. Feed me more, wake up. It's feeding time. Meet on the table. That's what you are like.

Speaker 1: 1:27:42

Meet on the table and that's what you are yeah yeah, listen.

Speaker 1: 1:27:48

Also, I have to apologize to penta. What am I doing? That is a catchphrase. Doing that is a catchphrase, it's a way of life, it is. I think that's what it was for me when I didn't think about it, for I was like wait set on me. That's, that is a catchphrase. Um, what else is there? Um, I know there's one other. Uh, there's one that's actually really cool to me. Uh, if I don't think you've ever seen Evil Russell in New Japan, he had one that was Everything is Evil. I've heard of it. I like that one because obviously his name is Evil and it says Everything is Evil. So that means everything is me. That makes sense. I see where he's going with that. Now I'm seeing where he's going with that.

Speaker 2: 1:28:40

Now I'm seeing where he's going with that. I mean now, now one one I know I did use for a while back in the day was sorry about your damn luck. I lie, cheat and steal that's. That's one that I I actually, oddly enough, me and my boy Kyle, when we were in middle school at a Christian school, no less literally was all like no, we're going to live by that shit. And boy did we. The amount of shit that I would steal from people and then lie about having it.

Speaker 1: 1:29:16

Like you came up, we came up with it.

Speaker 2: 1:29:20

Oh, fam, me and my boy kyle, we was bad. We, the things that we would do like we were. We were. We were low-key bullies, we, we were bullies with the veil of being good kids. So it's like no one saw or noticed the bullying that we did, but like but but but we would, but we, we knew how to cover it up and and put on the the act that we were legitimately great, you know, outstanding christian citizens out here in these, in these in this world, while we'd literally be in the back in the fucking bathroom beating the shit out of people, like fucking. It was great. It was great Good times, good times.

Speaker 1: 1:30:05

Did y'all just hear this man? Just reflect on him being a complete shit in school, all right.

Speaker 2: 1:30:11

Listen sometimes, but it was like it wasn't like, let me put it this way. It wasn't like, let me put it this way, which one of the things that we've one of our most famous acts of violence, right? Just a quick deviation. We were outside throwing a football, right, and one of the neighborhood kids came by and he rode by and he caught the ball and we're all like, bro, give us back the ball, give us back the ball. He's like ah, I got your ball, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 2: 1:30:43

So you know, we pursued him, we chased him down, right. Well, homie thought he was safe because he ran inside of his house. Alright, alright, cool, cool, cool, Alright, we got something for him, right. So we show up, and his little sister was there and his little sister was cool with us. We're like, hey, is your brother here? And she's like he is. But he told me I'm not supposed to let y'all. He's like, listen, listen, listen, listen. He has our football. He stole it from us. So we're just going to, if you let us in, we're going to surprise him. So we're just gonna, if you let us in, we're gonna like, surprise them, we're gonna get the football from them. Blah, blah, blah, right home invasion?

Speaker 2: 1:31:26

no, we didn't invade, just like vampires we asked to come in. Get out of here bro we convinced her that we just want to get our football back, alright. And she's like, oh, he stole it from you. He's like, yeah, he stole it from us. Now, we already had this. Actually, we didn't even have a plan. We was like we're gonna go in here, we're gonna jack his ass up and we're gonna get our ball back and show no remorse about it, right, so?

Speaker 2: 1:32:02

but we were like yeah no, we just want to talk to him, we just want to get the football back. She's like, alright, yeah, we'll let you in. So we come up with this whole little thing where it's like she would like out-route to say like, yeah, no, he's not in here, blah, blah that he's gone. He didn't stay in the other house. Okay, cool, we would.

Speaker 2: 1:32:20

Hot, we hid in the house, waited for him to come free and she kind of like coaxed him out of the room. And I remember this because I was like I hid like in like this little, like this little side room that was right next to the to their couches, and so so we're hiding. She helped us plan this part. Right, we're hiding. He comes out and then me and my boy, kyle, we bust out of that bitch and Kyle was the muscle okay, he was the muscle of this, I was the brains of the operation and I was the talker in this particular case, right, so we come out and we, kyle grabs him, right, and you know we're wrestling with him and everything and stuff like that, and his sister she's like she's laughing about and stuff like that.

Speaker 2: 1:33:09

He manages to break free and he runs to his room and tries to lock the door, but I what we get to the door first and we stop, and you know the whole time because, like Kyle, he's in go mode, right, he's trying to get him, and I'm just all like homie, we just want our football back. You know what I'm saying. You're gonna give us the football. We managed to like pin him down kind of thing, where he couldn't move, and I think, uh, like like kyle was holding him down, I think I grabbed his hands right and he's all like I'm not telling you, I ain't gonna tell you where the ball is, I'm not gonna tell you. I was like, oh, is that so? Okay, hey, o'connor, pink belly and Okay so this is like harmless fun.

Speaker 2: 1:33:56

Depends on what you feel a pink belly's harmless. Remember Ed and Eddie. Yeah, I feel a pink belly's harm with, remember Ed and Eddie.

Speaker 1: 1:34:00

Yeah, I know what a pink belly is, just a nice little slap.

Speaker 2: 1:34:04

Well, Kyle does not know his own strength.

Speaker 1: 1:34:08

Okay, yes, Kyle.

Speaker 2: 1:34:12

And we slapped the shit out of him. He's like pink belly. He's like, ah, I was like, hey man, we just what's it gonna be? Where's the football at? He's like. He's like yelling at everything, wanting to cuss us out. I was like, oh okay, fine, fine, pink belly, pink belly.

Speaker 1: 1:34:36

You broke into this man's. You let in this man's house. We were invited. You let in this man's.

Speaker 2: 1:34:39

You let in this man's house you let in this man's house we tried we tried to negotiate our football back. He refused to deliver y'all didn't think about talking to a parent. Nah, eh y'all just, this is a cul-de-sac. In the middle of a summer day. Ain't no parents home right now? As a matter of fact, parents did not find out about all of this until like 8 o'clock, going into the next day. Listen, long story short. We got the football back, but homie had like a big ass well on his belly.

Speaker 1: 1:35:21

By beating his ass in his own. You know how terrified that man. Probably thought he was about to die that day. Not really, but like motherfuckers came in his house he thought he was going to get away with shit. I bet you he took that with him forever.

Speaker 2: 1:35:39

He did for a minute Listen. After that happened, no one ever stole our football.

Speaker 1: 1:35:52

I know you out here being a goon like fucking Brody.

Speaker 2: 1:35:57

King, we weren't goons like Brody king, we were just on our lie, cheat and steal type shit.

Speaker 1: 1:36:03

How was that? What was there lying and stealing?

Speaker 2: 1:36:06

you were beating somebody's all right, so maybe that was more like an apa type situation yeah, that was apa.

Speaker 1: 1:36:14

That was, that was definitely apa, which, speaking of which I do, I am pretty hype about the fact that the new career well, it's in the career path I'm going into and I found, like the, the acronym for my job title, is literally APA, and I was like do you actually do APA shit or no? No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2: 1:36:34

It's just APA by name, but not by. Uh, I'm not.

Speaker 1: 1:36:41

I'm I by, I'm not, I'm not protecting them, I am their point of contact. So I get, I mean I'm not being nobody's ass, but like they would come into my office, you know and be, you know, knock on the door. Hey, hey, knock on the door, don't go past the door. Yeah, yeah, you know how everybody did. Everybody just went past the door. Don't go past the door. Everybody did.

Speaker 2: 1:37:03

Everybody just went past the door. They just walked past Good old APA.

Speaker 1: 1:37:07

I watched that Untold of them and everything and the breakdown of just their tag team and everything is great. That's another catchphrase we talk about Damn Right there there. Wrestling god is another one too.

Speaker 2: 1:37:25

oh, wrestling god I definitely say I definitely for root damn from time to time.

Speaker 1: 1:37:33

I definitely I mean anytime. I've seen certain things happen like somebody, like before, when somebody would get knocked out in something, I would hit the damn. But now it's definitely Andy's home.

Speaker 2: 1:37:46

That is my new shit anybody gets knocked the fuck out, andy's home wow, wow I'm not gonna lie you saying it that way, I would love to have a finishing move that's called Andy's Home.

Speaker 1: 1:38:03

That's and they got a ragdoll afterwards.

Speaker 2: 1:38:07

Whatever happens, it's got a ragdoll like it have to be like some kind of like, uh, like something like when, like you get hit with it, it makes you kind of like bounce back up and then drop, like yeah, I can't think of a.

Speaker 1: 1:38:26

No, no, kind of almost like how you know um Lost in the woods or eat defeat, like how, after they get here, yeah, rag doll.

Speaker 2: 1:38:36

Yeah, the him with that Andy's home, mm's home, which you said that. Um well, nah, I'm gonna bring that up on a later okay okay, okay, because it, because it doesn't, because it doesn't relate to the fact of catch phrases, okay, but uh, I'll bring it up another time because it's an interesting observation that I've been noticing about wrestling as of late.

Speaker 1: 1:39:03

Okay, do you feel like the observation could be a topic that would lead an episode?

Speaker 2: 1:39:12

I don't know. It's an interesting thing to note and talk about, especially when you compare old wrestling to new or old wrestling to where we're at right now, and it's more so, just which. I can understand why it has gone this way, because me and my roommate, who is an actual indie wrestler right now, kind of brought it up, because he also kind of follows this trajectory of selective moves that you do, and it's the fact that nobody, no one's really slamming niggas, no more. When you think about it, I'm talking like you see, for instance, we have the Buckshot Larian, we have that Switchblade, we have the Mollywop, I think I get what you're coming from now.

Speaker 2: 1:40:09

All these different kicks and stuff like that. We have a lot of these moves that are coming out nowadays, freaking the Rainmaker, a lot of the moves that wrestlers are doing, especially when I'm noticing with finishes, a lot of the more popular wrestlers right now who have these finishes, the moves that they do. They're not like, they're not power bombs anymore, they're not choke slams and stuff. And even more so the ones that they do still do like God. They're disgracing the tombstone nowadays.

Speaker 1: 1:40:53

Constantly using it on everybody.

Speaker 2: 1:40:54

Yes, how do you drop a nigga on his head? But how do you drop a nigga on his head but kick out At two, at two, or sometimes crazily at one, but I just ripcord, elbow you in the face and you're sleeping for good. I just spinning backhand you, but prior to this, I like Spinning backhand can legit knock a motherfucker out.

Speaker 1: 1:41:32

Alright, we've seen it in MMA.

Speaker 2: 1:41:36

Which is true, and I'll give it that. But at the same time, you know before when, just before when you would have to. You get drived into the mat so excruciatingly hard and what not being slammed on the mat off of the top rope, but I punch you one time in the face and you drop grant. I've been punching the whole match, but this one particular punch, when I wind it up in a certain way, even though I've dropped you on your head, hit you with a ddt neck breaker. You know all these things, but that forearm though hold on, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 1: 1:42:20

You know why their head wasn't at red damage. They hit the move at green and then expect the finish to be over. You know what you're right. You know what you're sitting there and you're thinking about it cause you fucking know, dog that is not a justifiable answer in any way, shape or form oh my god.

Speaker 2: 1:42:52

I no longer want to speak to you like yes, um be gone oh my god, that's so fucking good, that is so fucking so.

Speaker 1: 1:43:07

Basically, you want to do an episode of talking about, like, the legitimacy of finishers again, like having finishers I'll be great again, basically if you hit it, it makes sense.

Speaker 2: 1:43:17

We can definitely talk about that, because I feel finishers don't mean anything anymore.

Speaker 1: 1:43:24

Okay, well, how about this? What I want you to do for the next episode is give me a couple examples so that way, you know, especially when making clips and stuff like that, I can use those examples. I can literally pull up those matches, pull up those moments and be like hey, this is an example of a constant.

Speaker 2: 1:43:37

pull up those moments and be like hey, this is an example of a constant, you know, with that I listen because, funny enough, that particular bit I once again speaking with my uh wrestling roommate freaking uh, my wrestler roommate, goodness. But like we were, we kind of touched on it and it was like man, there's, it's, it's pretty rough, it's pretty bad. There's plenty. There's plenty that I can show and, because of the fact that WWE has been doing the AEW shit for a little bit now, there's plenty to show from AEW and WWE. There's part of me that does feel that it's AEW's fault, but that's neither here nor there.

Speaker 1: 1:44:23

A large portion of it, yes.

Speaker 2: 1:44:25

I will produce some show in regards to that particular point.

Speaker 1: 1:44:33

Legitimacy and finishers. I think that would be a great talk away. I even have moments where I'll be like yo, bro, how did you kick out of that? Like, especially, I know, when you was watching anarchy, rule, anarchy, uh, in the arena match, say, we know that the one-winged angel, that's a finish, that yo, if you hit it, donezo right. But I feel like, because of how AEW is sometimes, if it was maybe like a spine buster off the stage into that sparkling table, if he would have kicked out at two.

Speaker 2: 1:45:09

He said that sparkling table.

Speaker 1: 1:45:12

It sparkled what the fuck was it for? But the sparkle, was it supposed to electrocute somebody.

Speaker 2: 1:45:19

Listen, nobody told me that Using the catchphrase, and you'll see where I'm going with this the most dangerous three letters in wrestling entertainment. After the last display, they are uh, they don't seem dangerous anymore. I've.

Speaker 1: 1:45:45

The RKO.

Speaker 2: 1:45:48

Brother, you watched the same pay-per-view live.

Speaker 1: 1:45:52

I know he did like three. No, wasn't it that John Cena one where he did like four? He did like four RKOs.

Speaker 2: 1:46:00

Most dangerous Are they?

Speaker 1: 1:46:07

But it's Cena, though. After four it's Kyo though. Okay, sure, cena. Well, I will end it off with this.

Speaker 1: 1:46:20

Guys, you know the main topic of today was catchphrases. If you have any catchphrases from your favorite wrestlers of all time, please let us know in the comments. Also, it gives a chance for swag. If you probably throw up some of those in the comments, maybe swag might respond and say hey, you know what? Actually that might be one of mine. Okay, I know for me.

Speaker 1: 1:46:39

It took me a minute to realize, since it is a way of life. It is a catchphrase for him, but it's Sero Mero. If not, it's probably any of Austin's catchphrases, because I'm a big Austin fan. But as we're going to go into next week's episode, to give you guys a chance to prepare, look at some of the legitimacy and finishers that we have in wrestling today or even in the past. What were some moves that you guys were aware of? That once it hits, it's done. We have the razor's edge, we have the one-winged angel and, back of the day, it was damien's dinner time when he hit that damn ddt. It was donezo. Okay, it was over, but we will be back with our next episode.

Speaker 1: 1:47:19

It is the maziku it's your boy swags which in the building and guys, please be sure to like, subscribe and follow us on all social media when it comes to bbod podcast. Until next time, guys have a great one.