You Can Look But You Can't Touch

When wrestling hits a mid-week slump, what's left for fans to discuss? That's exactly what we tackle in this episode as we dive into the frustrating reality of post-pay-per-view programming from both WWE and AEW.

The pattern has become all too familiar - spectacular PPV events followed by weeks of aimless television. WWE's follow-up to Night of Champions exemplifies this problem, with stars like Cody Rhodes and John Cena seemingly treading water despite their massive popularity. Meanwhile, AEW's 300th episode delivered exceptional in-ring action but continued the company's struggle with compelling storytelling beyond match announcements. We examine how Liv Morgan's injury has thrown WWE's women's division into disarray and question whether either promotion has a strategy for maintaining momentum between major events.

Wrestling's current landscape reveals a fascinating divide: AEW offers "the best wrestling in the world" but lacks the entertainment value that makes storylines memorable, while WWE banks on star power without consistent narrative direction. This fundamental difference raises important questions about what makes wrestling truly engaging for audiences week after week. Is technical brilliance enough without emotional investment? Can character work succeed without quality matches to back it up?

With limited wrestling content to dissect, we lighten the mood with a fun game of Marry-Date-Eliminate featuring women wrestlers from different eras - from the Attitude Era through today's talent. Our sometimes surprising choices spark conversations about how women's wrestling has evolved and the various qualities that make performers memorable beyond their in-ring abilities. Join us for this honest, unfiltered discussion about wrestling's current state and the performers who've shaped the industry across generations.

Transcript

Color-Coordinated Intro

Speaker 1 0:09

Welcome to another episode of the Big Brothers of Destruction podcast. It's the Masako, it's your boy Swag Switcher in the building. For once we have color coordinated. Apparently, we didn't even notice it. It's just boom, it just happened, all right.

Speaker 2 0:26

But for those who, uh, for once we have color coordinated. Apparently we didn't even notice it, it's just boom, it just happened, all right, um, but wow, not only did we color coordinate, but like, like, with that on, and I got the shinsuke nakamura t-shirt, like you you obviously didn't hear me.

Speaker 1 0:36

I said, oh, this is the let's dress alike, but different themes today, because mine is no very. I did not catch that part Because mine is very Japanese-esque, but yet you are wearing a Japanese wrestler's shirt with the same colors.

Speaker 2 0:56

Same color scheme got the red, black and silver happening. Yeah it's, we went hard for this one.

Speaker 1 1:04

But apparently for what Swag says, even though we went hard for this one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But apparently for what Swag says, even though we went hard today there in the wild world of wrestling, nothing hard went down this entire week.

Speaker 2 1:18

Listen it was so TV-wise. It's been boring when I look at other people's Because now I kind of look at other people's podcasts just see like what they talk about and stuff like that and man, oh man, like People talk about Mercedes Monet is crazy right now like like a lot of the podcasters are like really harping on the fact of like how much of nothing Mercedes is doing for anybody.

Speaker 1 1:46

Oh, I thought you was talking about that conversation we had last week where you were talking about she's the best ever, type shit and I was like oh, buddy.

Wrestling's Boring Week Overview

Speaker 2 1:54

Yeah, she's not that she ain't, no, but aside from that, wrestling has been. I mean, aew has had some great matches, great, great, great TV matches that they've been having. That's it Just really good matches. There was fun matches.

Speaker 1 2:19

You know what I'm saying. It's funny you say that because, as much as this trope is constantly said when you watch aew, aew has the best wrestling in the world. I remember adam cole said that in his promo earlier today and I was like you were right, but that's it, that's it, that's it so after you has some of the best wrestlers, if not the best wrestlers in the world.

Speaker 2 2:47

But you know what? They don't have a whole lot of entertainers.

Speaker 1 2:52

They don't have a whole lot of story available to keep you going, or if they have entertainers, they don't give them the scripts to entertain.

Speaker 2 3:02

Don't give them the scripts to entertain. And there's a part of me, especially with this buildup going into the pay-per-view that's coming up, it makes me wonder have they just given up on the entertainment parts of wrestling and are they just sticking to wrestling? Because when you look at it right, there's a couple of matches that have been made, but the the matches that they've Kind of been boosting. Well, the match that they have been boosting let's start with that Is Hangman versus Maz. Yeah, they have been boosting that match to the moon and back, which rightfully so, because it has to deal with the heavyweight title, which, for once, they're giving it the respect that it actually should, considering that it is their main company's title. But so there's that the only. The other match is kenny omega versus okada, number seven in the series, if I'm not mistaken right three at um.

Speaker 1 4:25

I think it was three or four times in New Japan. I want to say this might be fifth. I might be missing something, but continue whichever number it is.

Speaker 2 4:35

Correct me, please comment. I don't want to be completely falsified out here, but you know, this is like one of their big upper numbers times. They've fought each other and so it's like they have been I like I. They've been like pushing it kind of like in a roundabout way, because they're in fact like they've kind of sort of been trying to push it without with with kenny omega being absent for like two weeks, because of the which a lot of people have been joking, making jokes about it. You know, anytime someone takes a shot to the gut, they just say like uh, what is it? I think it's rustic talk. They're like oh, he got hit in the dire particulitis. I was like damn yes, every time dude, it's so.

Speaker 2 5:21

It's so annoying. It's so annoying Y'all clowning Y'all clowning right now.

Speaker 1 5:27

They really don't. They really do not let up on that Burkett Tickle-itis, like they just don't let it up. Like anytime he's in a match, like, oh man, he's in the gut, yeah man, he's a survivor for Burkett Tickle-itis and I'm like okay.

Speaker 2 5:40

Listen, we didn't have to do that with Brock Lesnar. Y'all don't got to do it with a maker.

Speaker 1 5:43

They did it like one time for Brock Lesnar, and that was it.

Speaker 2 5:47

Yeah, that was when he came back and they was talking about how much of a beast he was, that he was able to beat that after his run in the UFC and that was it. They didn't have to harp on it no more After that suplex city bitch and we just take off into the sunset type situation. But right now, the diaparticulitis right now is a part of the story. It's his weakness right now. His weakness is diaparticulitis.

Speaker 1 6:16

So it's just like how I think it's Matt Jackson. He has a history of back things, so any match. Once they start involving his back, he's just like and he like starts seizing up a little bit. So it's interesting, like that's his storytelling. Like fans know, oh no, he has a bad back like. But now it's like uh oh, you hit Kenny in the gut which is, which is fine.

Speaker 2 6:41

Like I'm not necessarily mad, I'm just. It is just funny to me how it's like every time gutshot. Oh, kenny Omega, with that hit to the dire particulatus Dire particulatus, yeah, dire particulatus, yeah, it's such a word to be using, but like. So they got the Kenny Omega thing which, speaking on that, the main event of which is just to go into it here, aew, 300 episodes, okay, 300 episodes, uh-oh, filled with great wrestling, mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 7:22

That's it, oh yeah, yeah, like nothing spectacular, not bringing back any. They don't have legends to bring back, they don't have nothing to.

Speaker 2 7:32

I mean, but see, even without them having legends to bring back, they have a whole Wrestlemania level pay-per-view that they're supposed to be building up to. And the only thing that I Got out of that, out of the 300th episode Of AEW, besides great wrestling Okay, some of the best wrestling in the business Besides that, the main points I got in that texas death match for john moxley and cowboy, which I'm excited about, by the way.

Speaker 1 8:14

I am excited because that matt I'm gonna let you go, let you go, let you go, go ahead we'll come back to it.

Speaker 2 8:21

uh, ceo retained her title, as no one would have expected was going to be different. And a fantastic main event Kitty Omega's best friend went up against Okada. Damn, what's his name.

Speaker 1 8:38

Kota.

AEW 300th Episode Discussion

Speaker 2 8:39

Ibushi. There you go. It's like Ibushi, that was a great match. It was a great match. Kenny Omega came out there at the end when they was jumping him. You know Now Kenny Omega's back. He's healed from his dire particularitis for the second or fourth time now and now he's ready to face Okada here, type situation. That was fun, that was cool, but that was as far as story to really boost up your pay-per-view that's coming Now.

Speaker 2 9:24

I didn't write this down but I will say which. We had this conversation last. They did clear it up about the whole evp situation and um and they apparently sweetened the deal to make it be kind of even and so it sort of made it clear that no, me and him, we don't want to be EVPs Because he's like, because number one, I don't trust Will Ospreay with that kind of power and Will Ospreay he was to the fans is what he said Kind of thing yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so and the Bucks are all like, all listen, if we're gonna do that, then y'all gotta put something on the line too. How about um, if y'all lose, no title shots for a year, type situation we keep our evp spots and you guys can't go for the heavyweight title for a year and I'm like that does put stakes on it.

Speaker 1 10:44

That does put stakes on it, though.

Speaker 2 10:46

It does put stakes on it and I don't like them stakes. They're not cooked to my liking, Because if they actually lose.

Speaker 1 10:53

that means you cannot see them in the title picture for an entire year, or an entire year and, as a fan, they're the two hottest characters that you want the belt on.

Speaker 2 11:08

Now, unless this uh, we're about to have a 365 day reign for the cowboy, or unless they're, or they're about to try to start boosting some other people up to go up against the cowboy, kind of thing. But it's like. Aside for that though, aside for those two things, like that's, that's all. Aw the 300th episode really had to offer story-wise, like it's whatever like that was important.

Speaker 1 11:34

Also, don't forget the 100 episode of collision which. How did they evenly match that up? I don't know yeah, I was.

Speaker 2 11:41

I thought that was kind of funny. However, don't forget tell me what did I almost forget that happened on Collision.

Speaker 1 11:53

Scorpio Sky's back.

Speaker 2 11:59

Let me ask again what exactly did I forget that happened on Collision?

Speaker 1 12:11

alright, so let's talk about WWE now and what is going on currently with Cody Rhodes and Randy Orton. I thought that was a good segue.

Speaker 2 12:20

That's a good segue, right one of the few things that actually did happen on WWE this week, because WWE is in this weird spot where I feel like they're really trying to hurry up and get to their next page.

Speaker 1 12:40

Yes.

Speaker 2 12:42

And then not only that, but with how Raw and Smackdown went, man oh man, they. I feel bad for live morgan, live morgan, busting her, busting up her shoulder. I feel completely like wrecked the women's division it did, which is weird.

Speaker 1 13:02

Like I live is not that well to me and this is gonna sound, I don't take it out. You live is not that important of a factor that the women's division is like she's gone and the women's division should be like in chaos right now. We have so many other women that could carry that division, but we're relying on Liv Morgan right now. Liv was their meal ticket and I feel I mean, stephanie is a bigger meal ticket than her.

Speaker 2 13:33

But she's too new. You know what I'm saying, stephanie, let me put it this way because I feel you want this. I feel that Stephanie Valquera should be, should be, pushed to the moon. That's where I feel she should be going right now, but which is something that had to be kind of told to me, because she is so fresh and because the fact that she is so new, newly established, like to do that to her. It will bite her in the back later on, kind of she'll get charlotte. I mean, I wouldn't say that because charlotte's still fine, and boy was she fine on smackdown. God, did you see her face rocking? The fucking with the red? Oh my God.

Speaker 1 14:27

I still say Jade's outfit was better, though, but yeah, oh, wow, really Her queen outfit. You didn't see how she was. The queenery outfit was like that was almost like not what say Wakanda royalty, that that that's a little far, but like little role, you know what I'm saying? Like it was definitely of a jade standard.

Speaker 2 14:51

I was like bro, I feel like you're just trying to reach, just just to get a ruse out of me against it, wasn't that?

Speaker 1 14:57

it was not that fire dog you telling me, so you telling me, her outfit was not fire at all.

Speaker 2 15:03

I'm not about to. Jada's looked better with what she's had on before.

Speaker 1 15:11

How about this?

Speaker 2 15:12

Charlotte does have.

Speaker 1 15:14

Hers was more flair. Yes, yes, it was more flair. No pun intended, but no, yeah, but, no, yeah, yeah, it's again.

Speaker 2 15:31

Whatever you say.

Speaker 1 15:32

We have no, no, no, no. We have different tastes. We have different tastes on one Our wrestlers and our women. That is it. So what I might find tasteful, you might not find tasteful. What I might find Well, you might find tasteful, you might not find tasteful. What you might find tasteful, I might not find tasteful. Charlotte is your wrestler. What she does is what is your liking. I'm not saying Jade is my wrestler, because she absolutely is not. Naomi is on a fucking run, right, okay, anything. Naomi does gold, okay. But in that sense, if I'm talking about the types of styles in that area of queen-esque, I'm going over with Jade's look, because Jade looks the way I would want, right.

Speaker 2 16:21

Does that make more sense? Comments, comments. Comments section. Talk to this man. What All right sense. Comments. Talk to this man, what?

Speaker 1 16:26

Alright? Anyway, talk to this man. You can't talk to this motherfucker about anything Queen-esque, and if it's not Charlotte, nothing else. Anyway, it was alright, listen, listen.

Speaker 2 16:44

To me, in comparison with the queens that we've had so far. Jade needs to step her game up, because Selena Vega was a much better looking queen with what she had on. Nia Jax, above and beyond, did the queen shit very nicely. It seems like you don't like fucking Jade. No, jade is fine. She's not Bianca, but she's fine. Okay, I've given Jade her bits. That kind of thing they are. I don't. I would not say that where she's at isn't not deserved or anything like that, but it's like you know, it's whatever, but hey, you're fine. Have your Queen Jade here. You know what I'm saying? I'm not calling that.

Speaker 1 17:38

I said the outfit. I am not calling Jade the queen.

Speaker 2 17:42

No, no, no no, no, no.

WWE's Post-PPV Problems

Speaker 1 17:44

I literally just said Naomi is on on a tear. She can do no wrong. Okay, like literally the part where she came up and hit her with the briefcase and now the briefcase is wrapped with the caution, my nigga, like bro, that was fire.

Speaker 2 17:57

Like everything naomi's doing is fire oh yes, naomi is fine, and if you're saying the fact that, if you're trying to say that by association, that makes Jade fine too sure I guess no, okay.

Speaker 1 18:13

So again when I was talking about queen outfits, okay, charlotte Flair has a specific flair no pun intended with how she presents herself as a queen. Jade Cargill just won Queen of the Ring, so she's trying to resemble this essence of queen. I feel like maybe WWE is trying to maybe one day push that queen element on Jade Cargill by making her win Queen of the Ring. I don't know, but outfit-wise I was talking about in the elements of Queen and what we see as Queen. The way Charlotte presents herself as Queen is more of your liking and the way J was presenting herself is more to my liking. That is all I was saying. Does that make more sense?

Speaker 2 19:08

That part I already got, but you were starting to veer off just you was, but you was veering off of talking about her trying to bring naomi into what we was talking about, which naomi she's. She's in a whole nother area right now with what she's got going on.

Speaker 1 19:24

The reason why I brought her up is because there was a point where you thought maybe a Jade was queen to me.

Speaker 2 19:35

Oh, no, no, no, I mean, for all intents and purposes, Jade is queen to you because she has the crowd.

Speaker 1 19:48

But the original conversation started off with Cody Rhodes and Randy Orton, so let's go back to what everything else was going on in Raw.

Speaker 2 19:59

So with Cody. Well, first off, just to say what is there to talk about with Cody Rhodes, like he's going to go fight he apparently needs his ball back okay that's what he said.

Speaker 1 20:17

He said I am champions. I will get the ball back because he's the quarterback okay, listen, let me.

Speaker 2 20:25

Let me say something because, like which is why I'm like man WWE is suffering right now with this in between pay-per-views situation that they got going on, because it's like on Smackdown, which is where we were still talking about here. On Smackdown, cody Rhodes comes out there and then Randy Orton comes out there and they have a little conversation, which then this ends up leading to Drew McIntyre coming back and getting RKO'd, which ultimately looks like it is setting up Randy Orton and Drew McIntyre type situation. But like, right now, for me, like the Cody Cody wing King in a ring, and then you know the whole John Cena thing, I don't care, I really don't care. I'm ready for how many dates? Was it? Like what 16? I'm ready for these 16 dates to be done Like, let's wrap this up.

Speaker 1 21:35

You are saying you're done with Cena. Now, bro, I've been done with.

Speaker 2 21:40

Cena Since the Rock didn't show up. I've been done with it since then. I've just been trying to at least hear it out. I've been. But then when the pipe bomb happened, I'm like, oh okay, this is. I'm kind of this is stupid. Sure, the match that those two had was that him and CM Punk had was fine. But it's like this heel run ain't doing shit for me, dog, it ain't doing shit for me. We done completely threw R-Truth to the side and now he has nothing to do with John Cena anymore, because now there's the whole what is it fucking Black and goddamn Damien and Damien Priest shit happening? So it's like, obviously, killings is that whole thing is done, you know kind of thing. So we're not going to revisit that, for whatever.

Speaker 2 22:45

Or maybe later on. Where? Where is he driving to? Into black okay, okay, yeah, driving into black. Yeah, who cares about that anymore? Now, like it's like. Wwe has been giving me a whole bunch of who cares? Tiffany Stratton vs Trish Stratus At the pay per view for Evolution? Who cares? Like it's Whatever.

Speaker 1 23:21

I mean, you're right about that.

Speaker 2 23:23

One who cares, I ain't gonna front, I'm not gonna front, like it's one of those things like for me, smackdown was like Smackdown tried to be interesting but like it fell short of being interesting, like even down to the very end, with, you know, solo and Jacob and everything like that whole tag team and stuff like that. If I fell asleep, to be honest, watching smackdown like it was like I fell asleep, woke up, had to eat bomb pops to finish watching SmackDown so I wouldn't fall asleep Because I was like Bomb Pops, you know the fucking red Bomb Pops, the red, white and blue.

Speaker 1 24:17

It took me. I haven't seen those in forever. That's why it's not, bro.

Speaker 2 24:22

They're delicious Freaking. The new mountain dew right now is supposed to be is bomb pop flavor they're magically delicious anyway. Um wow, nope, that's no, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, but I could the way you said.

Speaker 1 24:37

It just reminded me that. So um magically delicious so what it sounds like is, this week of wrestling was very mid to you.

Speaker 2 24:48

It was damn near below bit like for raw, literally. I look at my notes for raw and the only real big thing that happened on raw and my personal opinion was new day dropped the belts.

Speaker 1 25:03

I was literally going to say like that wasn't a moment for you, that you didn't care no that.

Speaker 2 25:09

Yet I mean I cared in the sense of like, which I did go and do a small deep dive because I was all like new day gets these belts.

Speaker 2 25:20

We got xavier woods backstage dressed like a goddamn pimp, in in in grayson wallard, like joining their side, just for them to just fight judgment day without grayson waller being out there and they just take this l kind of thing like it was very unceremonious. And what I feel is going to happen now is the fact because now that Judgment Day has the belts, and now Judgment Day there, judgment Day is currently on their redemption arc. Remember when Judgment Day had all the belts but they had the main titles in the tag teams, as opposed to the mid-card in tag teams? Yeah, tag teams. Yeah, because where we had el campeon in judgment day and they and and rhea ripley with the women's title, now we have no women's title, but we still got the tag. We got the female tag team titles and then we got the tag team belts for, uh, the men's and instead of the heavyweight title, we we have theater cottonelle titles so you're calling, are we calling?

Speaker 1 26:28

are we calling?

Speaker 2 26:29

judgment day midday no, that's the new day. Um, this is the just. We had judgment day and this is like judgment day at weenie hut, general, you know. Wait, why do I realize?

Speaker 1 26:44

why do we have two teams with the name of day in it, like what the fuck?

Speaker 2 26:48

I mean a new day. New day had it first, so judgment day would have to go at that point.

Wrestling Promotion Comparison

Speaker 1 26:56

So why are they not in a feud of like okay, unless you're, you can't even do that now. Like it would have been unless you're, you can't even do that now. It would have been if there were still faces and still positivity to go against Judgment Day. You have the literal sense of yin and yang and you followed all that.

Speaker 2 27:14

Well, I mean it's not too late because Judgment Day just dropped their tiles to New Day. I'm sorry, judgment Day just took the tiles from New Day, so it's not like New Day is doing anything. You can't go back to being positive.

Speaker 1 27:27

After what you did to Big E, you can't like. Nah, you go ahead they could say sorry.

Speaker 2 27:38

It's not too late to say sorry and, as we know, the WWE fans are relatively forgiving and finicky. Yes, and very finicky so it's like you know, uh, with things that happen and people still get cheered, you know like it's, you know, hey, hey, it's possible. Or maybe at this time, judgement Day is going to be looked at as being the baby faces. Cause Judgement Day is like in this really weird spot where they're just kind of Judgment Day, they're like anti-hero. Right now, actually, I would say they're not anti-hero.

Speaker 1 28:16

No, because Dom can't be no anti-hero. That dude's pure asshole.

Speaker 2 28:20

They are I was correcting myself Not anti-hero. I guess you would say they're more. They're anti-villain per se where it's like they do villain stuff, but like there's, they're not necessarily villainous per se like they're trying to exist pretty much like they're.

Speaker 2 28:41

They are existing, they just don't do good things. You know what I I'm saying? They're like a Harley Quinn and shit. You know what I'm saying? Where Harley Quinn she goes out there, she'll still kill motherfuckers and do bad things, but at the same time, she'll do good to a certain degree if it ends up getting in her way.

Speaker 1 29:02

Agents of chaos is the word you're looking for.

Speaker 2 29:08

I mean, I guess you could say that Judgment Day is agents of chaos to a small degree. No, they're not. No, don't, they're not really agents of chaos. I get what you're trying to say, because that's what they want to be.

Speaker 1 29:22

They want to be that.

Speaker 2 29:25

But they're not. And I don't think they ever will be anymore. If anything, judgment Day is working on a program to eventually probably self-destruct and go their separate way, because I thought they fixed that.

Speaker 1 29:38

Well, no, wait until Liv gets back. Then Liv is going to get a real Ripley pop when she's back. Because what's probably going to happen and I swear to God if it happens, if we get a rinse and repeat of Raquel messing with Dom and then Dom leaves Liv for Raquel and we get a rinse and repeat situation of Ripley. And we get a rinse and repeat situation of Ripley. Because did Ripley get injured and then leave, and then all of a sudden Liv came in and then boom.

Speaker 1 30:19

Kind of yeah, just to a certain degree yeah, but like I'm just saying, if it happens, bro, I don't think I'm here for that program well, you better buckle up Maz where to Stephanie, or buckle up, teddy.

Speaker 2 30:46

No, you better buckle your seatbelt, fam, cause uh, it's what we're getting. We're getting.

Speaker 2 30:51

We're on the highway to live, listen, it's uh, it is what it is. Yeah, like just a whole lot of nothing this week, A whole lot of nothing, which, to a small degree, I feel like, like from WWE's point of standing, like it's kind of understandable, because, I don't know, For some reason WWE has had a really bad time with after they have a big pay-per-view, it's like, alright, what are we doing now? And they don't start doing anything. Until you consider NIDA, champions of the big pay-per-view.

Speaker 2 31:32

A-Rap money, bro. What do you mean? Like that's that's supposed, that's supposed to be a big pay-per-view. That's like you know. Now, whether if I personally consider it a big pay-per-view is debatable, yeah, I'm not saying. But like you know, you saw how big the stadium was, you saw how many people was there. You know they had the fireworks and stuff like that. That usually indicates big pay-per-view energy. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 32:02

so, but you know that card had little to no build-up though.

Speaker 2 32:11

So does the AEW pay-per-view. And this is their WrestleMania show.

Speaker 1 32:15

No, no, but the matches, the matches match up though the matches match up. None of the matches matched up to that. What do you mean? So, okay, aew, pay-per-views may have zero to no build, but when you watch that fucking pay-per-view, that pay-per-views may have zero to no build, but when you watch that fucking pay-per-view, that pay-per-view fucking slaps like yes, down it, but that's if you watch it, it's.

Speaker 2 32:41

That's almost like. It's the whole situation of like imagine you're like you know there's. Well, they're, they're trying to do the thing like how, like you know, if someone says there's going to be a chris brown concert, right, but that's all they say, people are going to go to that concert because they like chris brown okay, sure, but like for someone else, they're like okay if. Because normally when you have concerts like that, there's like a like something. Sometimes there's like they'll have like a special guest or something like that to try and bring more people in, type deal. But it's like with what AEW is doing right now they are relying on that Chris Brown name of their wrestlers for the pay-per-view and the problem is they don't got chris brown names on their roster. Okay, they don't have big enough names on their roster to just warrant the fact that, hey, we're just going to say this person's going to be there and this person's going to be there and everyone's going to come and watch our show.

Speaker 1 33:57

And that's not how that works, Like technically, Cena or Cody or Randy or Papano, because you know everybody wants to see them.

Speaker 2 34:06

Exactly so with what you're talking about, the Night of Champions, right? Mm-hmm? What were the buzz names that were on that show? Actually, you don't even have to give me any, Just give two Sam Punk and John Cena. All right, those two buzz names is enough to sell out two football stadiums. Goddamn, Yep, Okay, AEW, they have. What are their buzzwords? They got Okada, Omega.

Speaker 1 34:39

Hangman. Well, wait, wait, wait To an indie darling. They are buzzwords. So now you have to think about that. Wwe and AEW are in two different categories when it comes to wrestling. Aew is for the indie darlings and AEW is sports entertainment. So you can't—oh yeah, wwe, excuse me. Wwe is for the storytelling and different characters. So it's very difficult to say one has different buzzwords, because when Punk was there they had a buzzword. They don't have a buzzword anymore that can bring all the fans. You see what I'm saying. Like, aew doesn't have a wrestler. That, oh, flat out, every person knows and every person is going to come there. They don't have one. It was Edge.

Speaker 2 35:29

At one point it was Edge, but that died very fast that and edge hasn't been there, not using now, yeah, well, if we go with what you say, tell me what do indie promotions usually do? When they got a show that's coming up, they promote, they build, they give a reason. Wrestlers go online and shoot promos and talk about their match. Sometimes wrestlers will even Go out and do promos and actually make their own Little segments to promote, to get their fans come To that show.

Speaker 2 36:12

Yeah, and most indie shows, when they have shows like this, they don't have a dynamite or a collision to even further what they're trying to get across so that they can get people to come to that show. But, aew, though you're saying that they you know the whole indie darlings thing and whatnot aew is trying to do what you're saying that they are doing, that is outside of their weight class. If you're saying we can't compare them to each other, however, as are like, hey, tony storm and mercedes-mernees oh, you want to come see that, right? Well, kenny omega and okada again, oh, with unifying the belt.

Speaker 1 37:01

Yeah, they're trying to do that. Yeah, they're trying to do that.

Speaker 2 37:03

Yeah, and it's failing, yeah, and so going all the way back to it for a person almost like me because, though I will still watch it kind of thing it's pay-per-view. Now, you and I have both spent I'm sorry, our parents have both spent countless hundreds of dollars monthly, or I should say For every 12 months. When you add it up together, 60 bucks a month. We've used to pop Okay, for 60 bucks A month, we paid to watch a WWE Pay per view Before we had the streaming stuff and what not, alright. Alright, wwe pay-per-view before we had the streaming stuff and whatnot, all right. And if we and and I know for myself, there were times where it was all like, oh, this pay-per-view don't look like it's going to be that good, I'm not going to watch, I'm not going to pay.

Speaker 1 38:06

You still watched it.

Speaker 2 38:09

No, no, no. Very rarely, but there have been pay-per-views that were like well, how about this?

Speaker 2 38:19

and I hate to bring it with AEW, yeah, go ahead. But I was gonna say with AEW you have to pay to watch their pay-per-view. And with the way that the the market is for me to want to pay to watch the pay-per-view, and with the way that the market is for me to want to pay to watch the pay-per-view, y'all gotta make me want to watch this pay-per-view. At least WWE makes you want to watch their pay-per-view to a certain degree, or at least they did. Now they don't really have to because it's on the streaming network.

Speaker 1 38:47

Yeah, I was about to say with the current pay-per-views that we've been having.

Speaker 2 38:56

Would you have paid 60 bucks for some of these pay-per-views? That would happen recently. No, I would not have. Okay, I would not have, and so, considering the fact that I going off of the build to the pay-per-views, probably not that I would say we're talking about wwe, why it's not aw right now?

Speaker 1 39:10

we're talking about WWE wise, not AEW right now.

Speaker 2 39:10

We're talking about further with AEW, with WWE, I would say, since Wrestlemania, I, out of all the pay per views with the build that has happened, the pay per view that I would not have paid for was this last one. I wouldn't have paid for the last one. I wouldn't have paid for Night Champion, you one, I wouldn't have paid for the last one. I wouldn't have paid for Night Champion. You know why? Because I knew how it was going to go and so because I predicted the whole thing. It was like why watch it anyway? Now, I would have paid for TLC. I would have been disappointed that I paid $60 a watch. Oh, I'm sorry, money in the Bank. I would have been disappointed for paying for Money in the Bank, but I would have paid for it, I would have watched it and whatnot. But it's like with AEW, it's like the only paper. I mean, how many pay-per-views have they had right now? They've had what? Three this year?

Speaker 1 40:10

AEW, I think has had a couple, I would say three so far.

Speaker 2 40:15

Yeah, but it's like going off the build-up to these pay-per-views, it's like outside of, just out of curiosity, whine to see and even with that curiosity I would pay for it Go to go to like a backdoor site somewhere where someone's like streaming it and has already did the thing for me, kind of deal, but it's like. But it's like aw has not made me want to watch their pay-per-views, especially with everything, like with the way that they promote it. And it's like they're in this spot where it's like they're not really trying to like push their pay. It doesn't feel like they're pushing their pay-per-view, they're just want, they're just banking on the fact that, hey, you're gonna watch this pay-per-view because we put these five people in it. Thumbs up, and so it's like as where with WWE, at least to a certain degree, like I said, they've been kind of being lazy recently.

Speaker 2 41:16

I ain't going front, but it's like, but at least there's some kind of minute storytelling going into these pay-per-views, even if they're. Yeah, there's a lot of consistent storytelling going into these pay-per-views, like with Gunther and stuff, or even with Cody, or this bullshit shit going on with John Cena, like it's ass, but at least it's something Like goddamn. But yeah, it's, um it's, uh. Yeah, this week was a dud. But yeah, it's, um it's uh. Yeah, this week was a dud uh, it definitely.

Speaker 1 41:56

It definitely took us almost a good 15 minutes to basically say, yeah, this shit was a dud. Shit was a dud, and I completely understand. I think I only watch portions of AEW and I know I watched portions of Collision SmackDown. I watched Raw. I watched because obviously the special time, so I think I had to tell you like yo, the belts dropped and stuff like that. So it definitely was a thing.

Women's Division Analysis

Speaker 1 42:30

Now I know a large portion of this episode was going to be us talking about women's wrestling. You know some of our favorite women's wrestlers and things of that nature. But I did also mention about the marry date kill concept and I actually was like, wait, let me just see if, like PC, pc wise, like this, is this p? Apparently a lot of people have done it, and so I was like, okay, cool, it's not gonna be an out-of-pocket situation to put down, and I think we also discussed about doing different eras because of the, the large amount of women that has passed during our times to be able to do something of this caliber.

Speaker 1 43:10

So I have a list and it's going to contain 10 women, 10 women wrestlers that, uh, from each era that you can select from. And then you obviously would say which one is the mary, which one is the, the date, which one is the kill, I guess, you guess you, let's just more so, say Eliminate, I guess you could say, but then you have to give your reasoning why you would select the certain person or certain thing. All right, and so, if we start off with Attitude Era, we have, in order From one to ten Trish Stratus, lita, chyna Sable, jacqueline Molly, holly Ivory, terry Runnels, tori Debra.

Speaker 1 44:16

And it's supposed to be, it's Marry date, dump, eliminate, yep, no date not dump, marry, date, kill. So who would you marry? Who would you date, who would you eliminate? I say that to you just in case, if you need to revisit the order.

Speaker 2 44:37

Yeah, I am going to need that, just so I can make sure I'm saying what I'm saying. Right? It's pretty simple. We're going to marry Tori Wilson. We're going to date Lita.

Speaker 1 44:52

No, this is attitude error. I don't think this is that Tori. I think it was the Tori that was with X-Pac. Because it's attitude error.

Speaker 2 45:01

No, that's because that's Ain't that, terry Reynolds.

Speaker 1 45:04

Nah, I thought Terry Reynolds was Goldust's wife.

Speaker 2 45:11

Oh, you're right, PMS. It's funny, I'm thinking about Mrs See, because I always call her Marlene.

Speaker 1 45:20

Ah, because of Goldust.

Speaker 2 45:23

Ah, yeah, yeah, no. No, you're definitely talking about that, ashley. So that's Terry. So that almost does not change my choice. I'll be honest with ya. It actually makes it a little more rougher, I think now. So dump ivory. No, we're definitely probably Gonna date Terry Reynolds or Marlena. It's the marrying part.

Speaker 1 46:17

Yeah yeah, I'll probably marry trish strattis. Like I need to know why we eliminate ivory. That's crazy. Why would I say great, I'm just curious why don't find her that attractive?

Speaker 2 46:24

she's not attractive to me compared to everyone else who's on this list.

Speaker 1 46:29

Okay, okay, okay okay. There were certain parts of Ivory at a certain point that was like okay, I can see. I think the older me was like all right, boom maybe, but younger me I can agree, I can agree.

Speaker 2 46:44

Because Ivory out of everyone on that list, dump Ivory because, eh, whatever Trish Trash, we marry her because her and lita are close when it comes to you know the merry part. But, like originally, I probably would just date lita but at the same time they're actually surprising.

Speaker 1 47:06

Knowing your, knowing how much you your preference, why would you not pick Lita?

Speaker 2 47:14

Listen, because there's only three options. We gots to be real selective here. I can only date so many bitches Respectfully. So it's like if I'm going to waste a date on somebody, I'm going to waste it on Marlena Because she was bad, she was bad, she was bad and she actually still looks relatively great for her age. So it's like Terry Rose is a runner up on that, as a matter of fact, because I understand why I came, risked everything for that I get it. I get it. Mm, hmm, why Cain risked everything for that I get it.

Speaker 1 47:53

I get it, mm, mm Okay.

Speaker 2 47:55

It's like Trish is the only logical one it seems like to marry. I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 1 48:03

How about this? Mighty Molly Maybe, but not Molly Holly, nah, because Mighty Molly she has kids. So, and in fact I like how you went to the opposite direction, so I'm going to go along with you on that. So, debra eliminate.

Speaker 2 48:26

Damn, but I get it.

Speaker 1 48:39

Actually wow that quick, damn um, but I get it. Actually wow that quick. The only reason why is this? This is because I have to do it, and I'm gonna tell you why in a second. It has nothing against this. It has to be jacqueline I have to eliminate. I have to eliminate jacqueline because she reminds me of my mom. No, so no, anybody that knows my mom can understand that, and that's not to say my mom is bad, but like, very reflecting Jacqueline's an amazing person, but no, just too much reminds me of my mom. Date, if we're talking about Latino heat China, I dating that.

Speaker 1 49:13

I'm I'm dating latino heat china I mean that still kind of falls within like the attitude era yeah, barely yeah that version china, and yeah, I ain't gonna lie barry and trish is is the way to go.

Speaker 2 49:28

You, you can't say no, you can't say no to that oh, especially sable was bad, but like at best date molly, ivory, deborah just not as attractive for me. China's in a weird space, like like. I don't not like china, but like too domi of a mommy, you know I like a little fight in mind.

Speaker 1 49:58

So, like I I know there's a, even though it's domi mommy, I know that I can still take it down if I need to.

Speaker 2 50:07

Now, this is this next section that you posted. This is a rough, this one's the rough, mostly just because there's way too many Marriable people here. So but literally, as I'm looking at it I think I've already straightened it out and it feels as if that, like this section of women which, for all intents and purposes, this section of women does not get enough credit, like I know people was like real hot about like Michelle McCool getting put into like the Hall of Fame, which I get it you know she's only in there because her husband's there but at the same, time Lake cool should have done that.

Speaker 1 50:50

It should have been like cool. I feel, yeah, I feel like Leigh.

Speaker 2 50:51

Cool should have did that. It should have been Leigh Cool. I feel yeah, I definitely feel like Leigh Cool should have gotten there first, yeah, Then Michelle McCool. But you know, to each their own on that.

Speaker 1 51:06

I feel Michelle McCool for all intents and purposes she definitely deserved the beat. Now, when I say this, I'm only saying it because resemblance to me and you might, you might actually attack me for this.

Attitude Era Marry-Date-Eliminate

Speaker 2 51:16

Michelle McCool was the Charlotte of that era yeah, I have to attack you on that and say I knew it, I knew it, I knew it.

Speaker 1 51:27

It's just because her build reminded me a lot of. Like Charlotte, like her build reminded me a lot of like charlotte, like her build physically.

Speaker 2 51:35

Physically looking, I can see why you'd want to say that, but michelle mccool charlotte she's not and that's not bill wise I'm talking bill, but it's like at the same time you could also say that michelle mccool, bill wise, kind of resembled a Tori Wilson Not Tori Wilson, stacey Keebler, because long, lanky legs and stuff like that. It's just you're looking at the white woman with blonde hair, tall. That's what you're seeing.

Speaker 1 52:04

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 52:06

Yeah, but like no, no I know, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, I know, yeah, yeah yeah, no, no, don't do that.

Speaker 1 52:10

Yeah, I knew you were gonna tag, alright, anyway. So let's let the audience know that Roofless Aggression Era this is what we're talking about. So, 2002 to 2008, the list is Number one, mickie James, number two, melina, number three, victoria. Number four, tori Wilson, number five, candice Michelle. Number six, beth Phoenix, Number seven, michelle McCool, number eight, layla, number nine, ashley RIP and number ten, maria. So I'm really curious on what your Mary is and I'm going to call you the fuck out if it's not. Who I fucking think it is.

Speaker 2 52:56

Bro, bro bro, this is easy, easy, squeezy bro. We're marrying Melina, we're dating Tori Wilson and we're dropping Candace Michelle, like that's it okay.

Speaker 1 53:10

Now I'm curious why Candace Michelle, like that's it Okay. Now I'm curious why Candace Michelle?

Speaker 2 53:16

Why Candace, michelle? Because Layla is more attractive to me. Michelle McCool is more attractive to me. Beth Phoenix is more attractive. Ashley is almost the date one. Sorry, I was dating back in the day. Ashley is almost the date one.

Speaker 1 53:30

Like Maria.

Speaker 2 53:31

Sorry, I was dating back in the day Like, honestly, candace and Maria are like neck and neck for drop Because don't care about.

Speaker 1 53:43

I'm not going to lie. Well, I'm not even going to lie. Maria is definitely the eliminate on me, okay.

Speaker 2 53:51

Like Maria. I think I just kind of like Maria just slightly more than I like Candace.

Speaker 1 54:00

But Maria's a redhead, which is weird because you normally go for redheads.

Speaker 2 54:05

No, that's what I'm saying. Like Maria stays, because I like her just a little bit more than Candace.

Speaker 1 54:12

Okay, okay, basically, she was saved by her red hair. Got it? Let me see here. So yes, obviously, mary Torre Wilson, it is a toss-up for Victoria and Ashley. For me as in date, I want to say Ashley because I enjoyed the punk, but was it? They lean too hard on it?

Speaker 2 54:43

Victoria, just take Victoria and call it a day, my boy.

Speaker 1 54:48

You know what I feel like that's forced because I had to really think about it for a second. Why Victoria? I enjoy Victoria as a person, met her a couple of times. I feel like it's a little biased. I feel it's a little biased.

Speaker 2 55:03

But Because you met Victoria and not Ashley.

Speaker 1 55:06

Well, not that, but it is partially.

Speaker 2 55:10

And Speaking of how come Christy Hemi didn't make it on this list, she's not even in the next one. Well, because she would have been on this list, specifically Considering Layla and Ashley. Raw Diva Search winners. Christy Hemi and Ashley Raw Diva Search winners. Christy Emmy, the first Raw Diva Search winner, like, but hey, you know, I mean she doesn't get picked by me, but she also doesn't get dumped you do.

Speaker 1 55:43

You do have. You do have a reason to call it out. You do have a reason. This is going off of 10, right, this is going off of 10. This is going off 10. But To solidify marry Tori Wilson date Victoria, eliminate Maria. Nothing was wrong with Maria, it's just the character they presented her as, and that was just like why. Is just the character they presented her ass and that was just like why is she here?

Speaker 2 56:14

um like, like. Honestly, this list is probably the hardest one because, like, this was like about to slap you with another one I guess we'll see, but I know, like specifically with the company, like with this particular like section of females, females these are the females who I had posters of in my room. You know what I'm saying. I did a lot of looking at these ladies.

Ruthless Aggression Era Choices

Speaker 1 56:42

Well, the next one we're about to light it up, light it up, light it up. The next one is going to be Diva's Era, era that's 2008 to 2015. We have AJ Lee, eva Torres, kelly Kelly, natalia, bella, twins, alicia Fox, maurice Naomi Paige Caitlin.

Speaker 2 57:11

Maurice Naomi Paige Caitlin funny enough, this one's also relatively easy too. That's a tough one actually for me. Listen, we're going to marry AJ Lee, we're dating the Bella Twins.

Speaker 1 57:26

That's crazy, and we're dropping Natalia the cleanest handshake I might give you in a long Time. We are absolutely Getting rid of Natalia. Get the fuck.

Speaker 2 57:41

I can't Now listen. I'm not. I'm judging Her strategically and specifically off Of this time frame. There was nothing wrong with her, just not for me. Literally, literally. The only other person who may have also got pulled on that choppy block is Alicia Fox.

Speaker 1 58:03

Alicia Fox is very close to Natalia yeah, very, very, very close, very very close.

Speaker 2 58:09

But like everyone else. Caitlyn, absolute beaut. Paige, jesus, maryse the accent. The Bella twins Listen, I was a big fan of twin magic when it first showed up. Okay, like you can look, but you can't touch, I was all about it. Maybe later Bella twins? No, okay, like you can look but you can't touch, I was all about it. Maybe later Bella Quinn? No, no, no, don't do that.

Speaker 1 58:36

No, no, no, no, no, no. I wanted to get you. I was clickbaiting. I was clickbaiting, click farming, click farming.

Speaker 2 58:49

You're rude, you're nasty, but yeah, and like, like, even with like, kelly kelly and eve torres, like, and eve torres is also closer to the bottom when it comes to all of them, but it's like, yeah, no, it's just now, with the hindsight 2020, yeah, getting stuck with Natalia might be a little, you know, depends on what you're into you know I'm strictly going off of what we were presented from her and Total Divas.

Speaker 1 59:20

That was just like man, you're a great person. I couldn't be with you.

Speaker 1 59:28

Listen, not everyone can handle a cat lady, Same Um let me not expose myself and let's just go on with what I chose. Uh, I am choosing. A part of me wants to say Mary AJ, lee, but I'm gonna choose Kate Because Lee, but I'm going to choose Kate because we always back in the day, you remember, I enjoyed the fuck out of her spirit, I enjoyed the fuck out of her presentation. It's going to be Kate. I'm dating Kelly Kelly. Oh, I'm dating, yep, yep, you know me. I'm dating Kelly Kelly and I'm absolutely eliminating Dahlia, absolutely.

Speaker 2 1:00:12

Throw it in rice. Throw it in rice.

Speaker 1 1:00:20

Ooh, you know what? That actually would be a good idea. Hold on a second, I don't think I might have. Nope, I don't have time for that, so we might have to go grab that. Anyway, so that is the divas era. Now we already know what the fuck's about to happen with this list. Nigga, god damn. All right, I'm looking at this list immediately. I know what your ass about to say. All right, so we have the women's evolution era and with my answer, you, you definitely go, you definitely get on me, because it took me editing this video to be like, actually, this person actually kind of grew on me, I don't know. So we have women's evolution. This is 2015, 2020. We have charlotte flair, sasha banks, becky lynch Flair, sasha Banks, becky Lynch, bayley, asuka Ronda Rousey, alexa Bliss, carmella Ember Moon, tini Shayna Baszler. Whoa, whoa, that's uh, alright, okay.

Speaker 1 1:01:38

I think we can both shake hands on this one immediately. You want to go ahead and do that?

Speaker 2 1:01:41

Well, hold on now. Hold on now. Let me look at this one, because this one's tricky. This one's tricky Because, because it's like, because I've been rating these on mostly looks and ever so slight personality. That's where I've been going on for the most part. This one's a little more tougher because these ones, because of how much time I've had with them and the fact that these ones can actually wrestle and stuff like that, you know.

Speaker 1 1:02:25

I can go ahead and pop off if you need me to. I'm just going to go ahead and pop off.

Speaker 2 1:02:29

Oh sure, Go ahead.

Speaker 1 1:02:31

I went first a couple of times, nigga, we absolutely marrying Oscar hands fucking down. That's not even a debate. If you feel like debating with me, I'm just probably going to just deck you in the schnoz. All right, just straight up doing that. Date, date, date is going to be Ember Moon Dating the fuck out of her that woman is. I am eliminating Ronda Rousey.

Speaker 2 1:03:06

Okay, alright.

Speaker 1 1:03:09

Would you like explanations on any of?

Speaker 2 1:03:13

I mean considering with what we're, what the attires that we've chose today.

Speaker 1 1:03:18

Oscar makes perfect sense I mean that that's not even just because of me enjoying japanese culture. It's just her as a person, like hands down, like she's a gamer. Okay, she enjoys art, she's creative, alright, and she's fucking adorable. Why not?

Speaker 2 1:03:42

Not fair, not not not. You're not wrong. Uh, for Ronda Rousey, is it just because of the type of person that she is, or do you just not actually find her attractive?

Speaker 1 1:03:59

It's the person.

Speaker 2 1:04:04

Say less Got it. That's why I had to confirm. I had to confirm Cause For me, that's, that was all I had to cook. That's why I had to confirm. I had to confirm cuz for me, no, no, that that's that. Definitely checks as a matter of fact like take you that in consideration, the ash come, I push her to also be dropped on my end too. I do think she's fine.

Speaker 1 1:04:29

Yeah, like she's, yeah, yeah, like yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2 1:04:33

But there are certain things about her personality that's like but she does give. I would blame her for it completely, but like at the same time she could stop herself. But she doesn't.

Speaker 1 1:04:54

And she doesn't care her face that she gives when she's angry gets off.

Speaker 2 1:05:01

I'm going to eliminate you in your sleep well, I mean, this is true, I mean that's actually kind of a thing from UFC, but um, nah, for me I'm probably going to have to say, uh, I'm definitely curious um, um, yeah, this one's, this one's actually kind of hard yeah, buddy, let's go.

Speaker 1 1:05:42

I got this motherfucker.

Divas Era Selections

Speaker 2 1:05:43

Yeah, buddy yeah, and it's only hard because it's like as far as like marrying out of everyone on here because, like a lot of these is fine as hell. You know what I'm saying. So it's like I'm probably going to, I'll probably, I'll probably drop Shayna Baszler because she's uh, she just doesn't necessarily do it for me and so she's not really into dudes.

Speaker 1 1:06:20

So yeah, she just doesn't necessarily do it for me To be fancy.

Speaker 2 1:06:22

Yeah, also, she's not really into dudes. So yeah, and even that aside, because you know what Poison Ivy's not into guys and I love everything about Poison Ivy I'd still ask her to marry me. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 1:06:34

Okay okay, even though you know you would not get the buns, you, you would still I.

Speaker 2 1:06:41

I listen, you, you are, you are okay with being a trophy husband. If poison Ivy is Sonic, I will be her, Amy.

Speaker 1 1:06:49

God damn it Like so you, you have no problem with being a trophy husband. Okay, that's cool. I was just curious.

Speaker 2 1:07:00

Go ahead. You are a Cancer Makes sense. I feel as if I should take offense to that, but I'm just not going to read into it.

Speaker 1 1:07:07

No, I can clearly tell you why. We've already pointed out in our youth and in our entirety you are perfectly fine not being physical with people. You're perfectly fine having being physical with people. You're perfectly fine having a relationship with what the physicality is, not a um as a focal point. So you being okay with being with a person that they're not into you physically but you're into them because of their beauty and other things, you're perfectly okay with that oh, I see what you're saying.

Speaker 1 1:07:37

Yeah, kind of that's kind of a little awful nowadays, but but it's not too far off okay, well it's changed, but from the years before, that's what I knew, you oh okay, yeah, yeah, oh no, yeah, that that is.

Speaker 2 1:07:51

That's been tweaked. Okay, but um, but going back for it, though, if we're dropping shana, it's really hard for me to say who I'm going to date, but I think I might. Oh, it's really hard, but let me switch it around for a moment, because I was, I think I'm going to date Carmella, and that was really hard for me to say.

Speaker 1 1:08:22

I want to hear why real quick, because that's something I'm curious about.

Speaker 2 1:08:28

Because when Carmella showed up, I loved every. She's goddamn beautiful. You know what I'm saying. Over Bailey now I know that was Over Oscar, let me put this so with Oscar right, the thing with Oscar which Is like been like a it's literally just a preference type deal Like Oscar is beautiful, but I'm also a really big fan of Girls with long hair. That's my thing.

Speaker 1 1:09:01

When she came she had like a decent amount of long hair.

Speaker 2 1:09:05

Yes, but Carmella has long hair and Bayley for a while did not wear her hair down like that and then she's cutting it since then. But like, listen, the reasons why I pickedmella is because carmella got everything, you know, from the jump. You know what I'm saying. Like I and I like I used I loved her staten island princess thing, you know, I like that. I just really like her and I think to me she's, she's just just ever so slightly prettier if I were, if, if I were to say that they're both beautiful, very beautiful. Now I will say more recent times what Bayley you know she has deliciously filled out in ways that are beyond amazing. Why no Sasha? Because Sasha's not my body type. Same, okay.

Speaker 1 1:09:58

Okay, okay, okay Okay. Body type Same Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay Same.

Speaker 2 1:10:04

Sasha's not my body type and then, though I might not necessarily know her personally, I've only heard through the grapevine Very, only very, unfortunate things about her, but with those, and then if I was going off of what her character was in wrestling, it's like she's also not the type of girl that I want, but it's mostly her body type, not a fan of her body type. Now, when it comes to Mary.

Speaker 1 1:10:38

So what counseled the elimination of Baszler though, shayna?

Speaker 2 1:10:43

Baszler. Yeah, she's not as pretty as everybody else. To me, okay, so just wanted to confirm it was just going off beauty alone, like in comparison, like cause she's at the bottom, ronda, because she's at the bottom, ronda Rousey's at the bottom because of, like you know, kind of like her personality-wise kind of things. But like in comparison, I would have fucked around and found out with Ronda Rousey, as where with Shayna Baszler, I probably would not have attempted. Okay, I would not have attempted, okay, but now when it comes to the Mary.

Speaker 2 1:11:21

And this one's crazy. I won't say no, it's not even crazy, alright, because Because I know what you're probably thinking I'm wanting to go with, and though that might be true, okay, I think. At the end of the day, though, when we're talking about marrying, I can worship a queen as much as I want. Alright, I can sump to a queen till I am dead and buried, but that 411 with those cheeks, alexa Bliss.

Speaker 1 1:12:12

Come on. Actually, I didn't expect that one.

Speaker 2 1:12:17

How can I not take Alexa Bliss? I didn't expect that one. How can I not take Alexa for this?

Speaker 1 1:12:21

I didn't expect you to say Charlotte Flair. If that's what you thought, I may have expected Becky or Carmella Becky. You don't find Becky attractive? No, I'm not.

Speaker 2 1:12:43

So then, if that's the case, becky is cute, but there is so much better out there. Oh my god, ew. Oh, really, that's how you feel about Becky. Listen, if you thought I was gonna say marry Becky, then nigga slap me. Alright, like Wow, marry Becky. Marrying Becky over Bailey Bro, you're crazy. Marrying Becky over, you've lost your rabbit ass.

Speaker 1 1:13:17

That's what I was wondering.

Speaker 2 1:13:20

Marrying Becky over Charlotte Brother.

Speaker 1 1:13:24

Bro, so are you literally saying Becky's on the bottom? Are you saying Becky's on the bottom?

Speaker 2 1:13:30

She's not on the bottom because she does look prettier than Shayna Baszler in my personal opinion. Like I'm not. She kind of tied like I don't with the list that we have here. She kind of ties with Ronda Rousey in the cute department, okay.

Speaker 1 1:13:54

This is two for two for redheads that you don't like today. That's crazy, all right. So Becky Lynch isn't a natural redhead. Last I checked. This is two for two for redheads that you don't like today.

Speaker 2 1:13:59

That's crazy, all right, so thank you, let's just in a natural redhead. Last night check I think she's a brunette bro nah, she was always.

Speaker 1 1:14:07

She always had that red hair beforehand yeah, she dyed that shit dog no. But I'm saying like okay, well, maybe I might have to look it up, but I could have sworn she was naturally red too. Anyway, um, that's crazy red. I could have sworn she was naturally red too. Anyway, that's crazy. No, she ain't naturally red?

Speaker 2 1:14:20

That's crazy. She's not naturally red. She dyed her hair that bright orange color when she was doing her steampunk gimmick.

Speaker 1 1:14:27

You're right, it wasn't red.

Speaker 2 1:14:31

Let me put it this way, bro, when it comes to the things that I like, as we've made a song about it, okay. I've said it before.

Women's Evolution Era Picks

Speaker 2 1:14:40

But, as you just meant before, things have changed, so Things have changed and it's like yeah, though I may not be as much of a fan of the back, but I love me some headlights. Okay, Though that may be true. Alexa Bliss, number one last I checked, everything that she got came with the property. She didn't have to pay extra for it. Now I could be wrong. Someone please check me if that's the case, okay I love how you did that. I love that when strong and flair came up on the scene, she was.

Speaker 1 1:15:18

She definitely had some additional, she definitely upgraded.

Speaker 2 1:15:22

No well, yeah, yeah, yeah. When she came up on the scene, she had a body like sasha banks and she put just taller than her. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, and becky lynch, she ain't got much of anything either. She does. No, now, bailey, she's got everything that they wish they could have. Yes, naturally yes. And for char to even catch up to her, she had to pay for it but here's the thing about carmella.

Speaker 2 1:15:49

Carmella is the same, though but carmella is beautiful, okay, she is very beautiful to me. I okay because I'm like her face, this, this profile right here, because that is one thing that has not changed about me. I take a very beautiful face before you know, because that's the first thing I look at. If the face is good, I can handle it. We can figure out the rest of the assets later, but as long as the face is there, which she has she's got the long, beautiful hair, I'm messing with that. Her body, she's got enough for me to play with. Oh, I'll do that. So what about Amber moon?

Speaker 1 1:16:36

Because Enough for me to play with, or I'll do that. So what about Amber Moon? Because that's because, why you say Carmella is beautiful, I don't find her attractive. I don't, I don't find her attractive. So, but when I said date, I date Amber Moon because I do find her attractive. You know, she does have the body type that I desire to. So I guess, when it comes to Amber Moon, why not Amber Moon?

Speaker 2 1:17:03

Because everyone else is just more attractive to me. Okay, I will. When it comes to the hierarchy, amber Moon, she's like at that five area, that five, six number. You know what I'm saying. Actually, let me put it this way I don't know actually, never mind.

Speaker 1 1:17:26

I know, I know that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 1:17:27

I'm trying to move on, try to move on, try to move on, because then you kind of start going well, because I was about to say, as far as like, who Amber Moon beats in my hierarchy when it comes to this particular list, like it should be back amber moon though definitely becky is down there at that bottom. Like amber moon comes in that area right next to sasha banks. All right, it's like they're kind of sort of like they're almost interchangeable when it comes to like who's above one or below the other kind of thing, and Sasha Banks and Ember Moon sit on top of Becky, goddamn Ronda Rousey and Shayna Baszler.

Speaker 1 1:18:15

I would still say Ronda is a little bit more in that area.

Speaker 2 1:18:23

If Shayna Baszler is number 10, ronda Rousey, actually no. If Shayna Baszler is number 10, ronda Rousey and Becky Lynch are a close number 9. For me, okay, they're number 9 and number 8. And then after number nine and number eight, and then after number nine, number eight, number uh uh, number seven and number six. That's where you get your sasha and your amber moo. And then after that, I would say, for out of everyone there, after you say that number five is oscar, and then, once you scale upward, it gets tough to say who gets put where, and so cause those ones are the ones that I'm looking at the most, if I was putting my top 10 in regards to that particular listing there. But like I love Charlotte, she is great, she is beautiful, but I find Alexa Bliss more attractive than Charlotte Flair and that's going like face, body wise, everything. Bayley is like a close second place, like a close second and third place in that area, because Bayley is cute, absolutely, but Lord knows I also.

Speaker 2 1:19:45

She's got fantastical assets. But you know who is cuter than her? In my opinion, carmella was, and that's why she ends up getting dated and so Interesting, interesting. That's where we fall. So let me put it this way alexa bliss is the only one in this list I've actually wrote lyrics about, so that's crazy.

Speaker 1 1:20:12

I didn't know that, um so the next. I haven't recorded the song, I just wrote it so current era, we have Bianca Belair, rhea Ripley, eo Sky, tiffany Stratton, liv Morgan, jade Karga, roxanne Perez, leah Valkyria Bailey, kade Cargill, roxanne Perez, leah Valkyria Bayley. And I forget, is it Nikita Lyons? What is it?

Speaker 2 1:20:51

Nikita Lyons. Wow yeah, that's funny Shout out for being like the first like still lower card NXT person to make it to the list.

Speaker 1 1:21:06

So this one's tough.

Speaker 2 1:21:11

A little bit this one's tough so, as I'm looking at this, um so I'm probably gonna have to drop lyra valkyria yes, absolutely.

Speaker 1 1:21:25

I'm sorry, she's just not appealing to me um drop lyra I'm gonna. I'm gonna eliminate, yeah, I'm gonna eliminate. Uh, valkyria, yeah like I.

Speaker 2 1:21:35

I think it's gonna be drop Lyra um damn, this is tough.

Speaker 1 1:21:41

Hold on, hmm.

Speaker 2 1:21:45

I think I'm gonna drop Lyra, think we'll probably actually date Bailey and we're just gonna have to uh, marry Bianca fuck oh yeah, I'm a double down. I'm gonna double down on that. I'm marrying roxanne I'm marrying roxanne interesting, very not quite actually. No, that checks.

Speaker 1 1:22:17

I'm also like, oh no, no, that checks, that checks yeah, you already know, tough part is honestly, it could be a toss-up to who to date yes, that's the part, because it's like bianca, like tiffany and lions to me it's like it's a toss-up for the and lions.

Speaker 2 1:22:41

to me it's like it's a toss up for the day.

Speaker 1 1:22:45

Oh and live. No for the purposes of why I know why I would marry Roxanne, I would date Liv and I'm eliminating Valkyria. I'm leaving it at that, before I get too into it. I'm leaving it.

Speaker 2 1:23:10

Like when it comes to the Mary, because it's like I love Rhea Ripley as much as the next person? No, I know but it's like I am indeed still more attractive to bailey, which is why I date her. I honestly feel as if I probably should just marry Bailey in this particular list.

Speaker 1 1:23:42

She has aged like fine wine. Yes.

Speaker 2 1:23:46

It's like, but I think the problem is is the fact that which goes back to one of my preferences, I think, Bianca, in this area oh yeah, absolutely prettier than Bayley, fine as hell and it's one of those things, that where Bayley has everything that I want but Bianca has. She just has a prettier face, like lord knows. If you could take Bianca and hit that fusion dance with Bailey.

Speaker 1 1:24:44

I already know what's up.

Speaker 2 1:24:51

I rest my case.

Speaker 1 1:24:52

I already know what's up. My issue, the biggest issue for me, is on who is getting married. Dating wise Everybody is. My issue, the biggest issue for me is on who is getting married. Dating wise everybody is. I date Bianca because Bianca is seems like a phenomenal person to be dating Tiffany, because I have had situations where I'm currently with somebody who's very Tiffany, strap, very, very Tiffany, and I see a lot of that resemblance like if she, if she, was a blonde, she's literally tiffany, not saying look wise, but like personality wise. Um lions is the person I would look at and be like man. Man, I want to be with that and I'm probably only going to date that. It's never going to proceed with anything but dating. It might even be a month fling Like we might mess around for a month and then boom, somehow she moves on in some way shape form and I could be like, looking back, damn, I had that.

Speaker 2 1:25:54

I may have fumbled that Listen, if there was the extra option of the polyamorous option.

Speaker 1 1:26:05

The polyamorous option? No, not even that.

Speaker 2 1:26:08

Not even that I was more so going to say if it was drop mess around date and marry, then yeah, nikita Lyons falls into that area.

Speaker 1 1:26:18

Yeah, you got to mess around with that. You, you got, you got it, you got. I'm sorry, like you got it, at least dip a toe in.

Speaker 2 1:26:25

You gotta pull the Drake, bro. You gotta pull the Drake. What's the Drake One time? That's fine for me.

Speaker 1 1:26:35

That. That's literally what it is. It's one time, that's fine for me.

Speaker 2 1:26:39

Came through, she, she got through.

Speaker 1 1:26:40

She know what's up laughing, laughing laughing, laughing, laughing, laughing, laughing, laughing, laughing, laughing, laughing.

Speaker 2 1:27:14

I will shake your hand, sir.

Speaker 1 1:27:16

I will shake your hand, sir. I will shake your hand, sir. I will shake your hand, sir. I'm so mad because I literally went through the entire lyric and said, yeah, that checks. Actually, this whole thing checks.

Speaker 2 1:27:40

I'd rake that, I'd do that oh, my god, that hurt me.

Speaker 1 1:27:47

That hurt me so much. But in all reality of everything, all these women are beautiful in their own nature. They are. Some were divas, some were able to evolve what is women's wrestling? We have some of them that are currently just doing their thing in the art and some had attitude okay, some were ruthless okay, but overall they are all beautiful and they're all right and we appreciate it.

Speaker 2 1:28:20

Where's Nia Jax on this list? Like, wow, we really just gonna.

Speaker 1 1:28:26

We just really gonna actually, if Nia Jax was on this list, probably date date. The only reason, probably date date, the only reason why Liv is date, was because every where Lions is, that one time I know Liv is at every date but the way Nikita Lyons is presented, especially with the way she's presentedons is presented, especially with the way she's presented on wrestling right now it's just the ass I'm sorry, don't, that is trouble.

Speaker 2 1:29:07

Nikita Lyons is trouble. You probably would not, but you're going to anyway. Yeah, and she's the. She's the one that, like, after everything is said and done, she might, she might hit you up and say like hey, big head, like one of those type of situations, and you gonna be like damn what you doing, yo, what's up?

Speaker 1 1:29:39

you know you shouldn't, but because she hit you with that big head, it's like I'm legally obligated to respond now. I'm legally obligated to respond back, cause she will pull you in.

Speaker 2 1:29:56

I'm legally obligated to respond back because I opened the message number one. I opened the message. If I don't respond back, she's gonna hit me with like I know you saw what I. I know you heard me.

Speaker 1 1:30:10

I know you saw she gonna hit you with the photo. She gonna hit you with the photo and that's gonna pull you in even more and it's like man, what's up what you doing nothing so you might as well. Just come on over, all right, man, you know oh wow no beating around the bush this. She does not have to beat around the bush. No, she does not. There is no fluff with her. There is no fluff. You know what it is.

Current Era Debate

Speaker 2 1:30:52

Come on through those situations where it's all like you know, I know I'm getting something out of this, but I'm pretty certain that this is actually her getting what she wants out of this yes, she's in control. She's totally in control. This has nothing to do with me. This is me giving her what she actually wanted, not me getting something. No, this I'm not getting, I'm just benefiting at that point, like because she chose me yeah, because she said out of all, she's like you, she that's new snow.

Speaker 1 1:31:27

At that point it's literally snooze now. It is literally snooze now. It is literally broke pelvis, men killed by broke pelvis. It's literally that. It's literally that.

Speaker 2 1:31:44

Listen, this is one of those episodes where alright, so we need to follow this up with that Will Smith track that's called Girls.

Speaker 1 1:31:50

I like pretty girls, girls, girls, and that's actually a good track though.

Speaker 2 1:31:55

It is. Yes, it is. I don't know why people try to front like, oh, but it's so what? Listen, I don't care how old will smith is. His music was good back then and it's still nice right now, like y'all.

Speaker 1 1:32:10

It's really because of the slap situation it is. It is torn his reputation At this point Everyone's over with.

Speaker 2 1:32:20

Like the three people who are involved, at least the two slappies and the slapper. They've had their sit down, they've talked about it, they've talked it out Like they're good now. So it's like they're good, you should be good too. They've said, sorries have been made and all this, this other stuff. They've made fun of it at this point.

Speaker 1 1:32:44

So it's like it's a deal. Chris rock has made a whole special about it pretty much. Well, not really, but like he he did.

Speaker 2 1:32:50

Well, he was talking about it yeah, he did talk about it, but it's like, you know, like, but like, like there's. I wish I'd been meaning to actually just want to watch it, but, like I know, since then chris walk in, uh, chris rock and um and uh will smith, like they've talked about it, like they've come to each other, man to man, like, hey, listen, that was bad, shouldn't have, did it? This stand the other. You know like they're that, it's all that. They've hashed that out, they've moved on. Now, you know what I'm saying. And so it's like, if they've moved on, it doesn't make sense why other people's like holding on to that. You know what I'm saying. Like it Because at least there was a legit, I'm sorry, and as long as the two people who were involved have dapped it up and hugged it out, bro'd the thing, then I think it should be okay to go forward with it.

Speaker 2 1:33:54

It's not like Hulk Hogan saying the N-word. You know what I'm's not like. It's not like Hulk Hogan, you know, saying the N word. You know what I'm saying. Because it's like, sure, at the time Hulk Hogan eventually did say sorry, but then he kind of reneged on his sorry Type situation, you know.

Speaker 2 1:34:13

So it's like like it'd be one thing if there was like it'd be one thing if, like the whole thing with, like Tessa Blanchard. It'd be one thing if she, like the ice cream man's coming by playing Mario music, but uh. But it's like it'd be one thing if she would have like, like, apologized and then like, like, went the extra mile to like show you know the the word I'm missing but pretty much like show. You know that. You know she did not what her sorry and her I did not mean to and forgive me for my actions type thing, but last I checked I don't think she did. So it's like it's, it is what it's, whatever. But yeah, it's a great song and it applies to everything here, because, at the end of the day, just because we had to pick that, that and that, that doesn't mean that we, all of these girls, are freaking, drop dead gorgeous I like.

Speaker 1 1:35:17

I like how you're getting to that point, because I wrote a piece about that, so that way you solidify that too oh well, I'll let you say your piece.

Speaker 2 1:35:25

I was just going to say the fact that, like, yeah, no, like, all these girls are drop dead gorgeous and boy, oh boy, we could only wish that any of them, even the ones that we said like drop to, could even look our way and speak us by name, like that, yes, that's enough to make a year for me. Notice me, please.

Speaker 1 1:35:49

I beg of you right. Look, whether, if we say marry, date or eliminate, every woman we talked about today walked through that curtain and made history with their own way. They, they weren't just eye candy, they were body slammers, they were crowd pleasers. They were, they captured the audience, they were belt holders, they were trendsetters right from every era that we just talked about. Those women carried those eras on their backs and they, they define. What we have now is of the evolution, women's evolution, and that's what the pay-per-view is coming up.

Speaker 1 1:36:30

We could talk about any of those matches that we like, trish Stratus versus Lita being one of the first main event matches ever for a title on Raw right. So we can crack jokes, we can pick favorites, we can go a little wild. I know that, again, this was a trend I saw on TikTok so I felt like bringing it up, since we were bringing it up as a topic. But this whole segment was born out of love and respect and obviously a little bit of the trend, out of love and respect and obviously a little bit of the shrimp. So shout out to every queen, every queen that has made us cheer, laugh, scream and dream. You have brought beauty, grace and grit and a little bit of chaos to the square circle, and we'll never forget it. So long live all of the women that we've talked about and the women that are coming up today as being some of the baddest in the ring and ones who will still hold us dear, near and dear to our hearts. The ones who were there were posters on our walls. Everything.

Speaker 2 1:37:29

We appreciate you, we love you and continue doing what you do and the offers are still on the table for the day to marry.

Speaker 1 1:37:40

Those never go away yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah and and it's the part like I said, it's the eliminate part. It's like, well, technically, because of the, you have to technically pick, but you know, whereas the trend people would just pick it and move on it created the conversation and comments. Obviously we got a chance to be a little bit of detail to it, but yes, I think that is a great way to end this episode and to kind of go into next week's episode. One of the things that I wanted to kind of bring to your attention is, like we've talked about games.

Speaker 1 1:38:17

We've talked about some of our favorite moments in in wrestling. Let's talk about the moments that were like what the fuck? I actually saw? It was chris van vliet and um, I forgot the other uh guy's name. They'll talk about what was the worst book match in history to them, and one of them was talking about stark uh star k97, hogan and sting and how that match ruined wcw in his eyes and I need to watch it because I've heard lots about it you've never seen what happened in the star case situation lots about that.

Speaker 2 1:39:00

You've never seen what happened in the star case situation. I've never. I've never watched it.

Speaker 1 1:39:04

I've heard of it in passing and I may have seen like pictures and maybe I've probably seen clips, but like I've, because, as you, know I'm gonna send you the video I'm gonna send you the video, basically him explaining it, because I feel like I'm not going to do it justice, but the way he explained it makes so much more sense.

Appreciation & Episode Closing

Speaker 1 1:39:21

Um, and van vliet said uh, the fiend versus seth rollins held himself oh, that's a good modern day one, very, very good, I agree with that my issue with that one was I don't think I watched that match so I never got the chance to understand the hatred behind that match. But when you tell me what happens and being a hell in a cell, stipulation, yeah, that was pretty shit bro.

Speaker 2 1:39:58

So I say that yeah, yeah, that'll be interesting to go and look back on. That's gonna be interesting to look back on I, I want to.

Speaker 1 1:40:14

I want to bring that up and in knowing that we do have evolution to watch, um, any matches that were like really trailblazer matches to you from the women's division, I'm going to. I already got one that I'm ready to talk about and I look forward to talking to about cause, yeah, we still have the Mary day kill, post community eliminate concept. I still do want to bring up some matches that you do also solidify. So we'll talk about best matches to you. This is two categories what is one of your favorite matches from the women's division? We're not going to say Divas, we're not going to say women's division. What was one of your favorite matches? And, in two, what is the worst book match to you ever in history? So you got two concepts to go into.

Speaker 2 1:41:04

That was definitely a look up. I will definitely. That'll be fun, That'll be fun.

Speaker 1 1:41:10

Yeah, that's a fun one.

Speaker 2 1:41:10

That'll be a nice little trip down some memory lane here with that one. I'm down for it.

Speaker 1 1:41:19

All right then then well, comment section, please let us know, uh, if you had any of the categories that we mentioned before. Who is your merry day? Eliminate. Or you know your favorite, uh, female wrestler for your era? Um, regardless, make sure you chug, slam that like button and tombstone the subscribe button. We appreciate you guys being here anytime. We're on all platforms, all social platforms, but here on YouTube, we are here to present our faces, to bring the laughs, to bring everything, and we want to thank you guys for being here. So until next time. It's the Masako it's your boy Swag Switch in the building, and we'll see you next time. It's the monster coop it's your boy swag switch in the building, and we'll see you next time, guys.