Summer Slam Predictions

The wrestling world stands at a crossroads in the wake of Hulk Hogan's passing at age 71. His death has thrust fans into uncomfortable territory—acknowledging his revolutionary impact on the business while reckoning with the racist statements that forever tarnished his legacy. As we navigate this complex emotional terrain, we ask: can we separate art from artist when it comes to wrestling's fallen icons?

Wrestling fandom requires this emotional dexterity—holding space for both critique and appreciation. "What Hulk Hogan did can be forgiven if he took accountability," we reflect. "But we can forgive without forgetting." This nuanced perspective defines modern wrestling appreciation, where heroes inevitably reveal their humanity, sometimes in devastating ways.

Against this backdrop of reflection, SummerSlam approaches with a card that surprisingly outshines WrestleMania's lackluster offering earlier this year. John Cena's heel turn remains divisive—brilliantly executed in its initial moment but struggling to find direction since. Meanwhile, Jelly Roll has impressed everyone with his dedication, canceling concerts to train properly and achieving his lowest weight since middle school for his WWE debut alongside Randy Orton.

The women's division takes center stage with multiple compelling storylines, from Jade Cargill's championship pursuit to Naomi's title defense. Roman Reigns' return alongside Jey Uso presents another layer to the ever-evolving Bloodline saga. We break down every match with predictions that spark passionate debate—exactly what makes wrestling discourse so engaging.

Whether you're watching for the in-ring action, following the storytelling developments, or simply hoping for surprising returns (Britt Baker, anyone?), join us as we analyze wrestling's present while acknowledging its complicated past. And if you're in the area for SummerSlam, our door is open—because wrestling is always better experienced together.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Remembering Hulk Hogan's Legacy
• 15:08 Discussing Hogan's Impact Despite Controversy
• 29:15 Finding Balance Between Art and Artist
• 44:50 SummerSlam Card Breakdown Begins
• 1:03:20 Analyzing John Cena's Heel Turn
• 1:20:40 Women's Division Matches and Predictions
• 1:39:15 Celebrity Match and Jelly Roll's Transformation
• 1:58:50 Solo Sikoa's Bloodline Storyline Developments
• 2:10:40 Final Match Predictions and Closing Thoughts

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:09

welcome everybody to another episode of the big brothers of destruction podcast.

Speaker 1: 0:15

It's the masako it's your boy swas which in the building and uh, guys, we have to uh, start this episode off with the faint of heart, for those with the faint of heart or mourning, as, uh, we have had the tragic news of an icon, a legend in the industry, passing away at the age of 71, and that is hulk hogan. Um, despite what you may say about him and his, you know what he said to hurt many people in the black community and other people in general, and what he's done in this industry. Least acknowledge who he was to the business. And uh, we, we obviously will acknowledge the things that he has done. But, uh, on this podcast at this moment, we're going to acknowledge him and what he has contributed to the business, because if it wasn't for him, we probably wouldn't be in this podcast and there's a lot of people in the industry who wouldn't be doing what they're doing.

Speaker 1: 1:21

So, um, swag getting the news. Um, I was actually on a work trip and, uh, scrolling through my phone and my good old buddy von sent me the message saying hey, hogan passed away, and at first I said no like, looking at my phone and yeah, 71, uh, unfortunately from a heart attack. So where were you when you got the information?

Speaker 2: 1:54

I was at work and I think I may have caught it like literally, as because tmz was the one who was kind of sort of like jumped on it, like on the ASAP, but I was at work and with my job I work at hospitals and so I go in and out of different patients' rooms and hospitals, you know, taking care of stuff. And I just so happened to walk into the room and as I'm walking into the room and it was funny because there was no one in there at the room and as I'm walking into the room and it was funny because there was no one in there at the time, I walk in and I see the TV and it's like Hulk Hogan died, kari Akaris da, da, da da. I was like wait what? And I just kind of stood there for a moment in this random person's room looking at this tv. While I'm standing there, I guess the person whose room it was in their family. They walked in and they're looking at me with, like my work stuff in hand, and they're looking at me and they're looking at the tv and I'm just and they're all like the customers are all like all like oh hi, can we help you with anything? I'm just, you know, doing my job, but I just had to, just had to stop for a moment. Hulk Hogan died and they all like what he died, what they were all surprised. And then I'm just like, I did my job.

Speaker 2: 3:22

It got out of the room and it was like and as I do that, I check the wrestling chat that we have I did my job. It got out of the room and, as I do that, I check the wrestling chat that we have, and at the time I think it had. So they said that people started posting about it, or like around like 11 o'clock, which was the earliest I saw it in the wrestling chat. So I literally looked in the wrestling chat, probably about an hour after anyone in the chat said something about it, and so, like I literally like, just kind of, was like wow, that's crazy. And then, uh, I went to.

Speaker 2: 3:59

I remember I went to another room and there was a guy in there and, uh, he spoke to me and I was just like, yeah, he's like how's your heart? He's like he's like how's your day? I was like, I mean, my day's all right. Just just, the process is some crazy news. I don't know if you saw, but apparently Hulk Hogan passed away. He's all like, well, he sat up out of his bed and then we kind of talked about wrestling for a little bit, promoted the you know shameless plug, and then, uh, did my job and went about my business.

Speaker 2: 4:30

But it was like, uh, it was super, it was uh, it was surprising, as any death would be, and it came as far as what I saw, kind of out of nowhere, because I want to say maybe about like, I would say either like a month or like a month and a half ago. I'm scrolling on my phone and then, like, I see something says about like which as at this point I looked it up and saw that this was being, this was the rumor that was going around, the fact that, like, he was apparently on his deathbed and this was like about almost two months ago, and oh, okay, I think I know what you're talking about.

Speaker 1: 5:16

Yeah, this is like right after the announcement of his wrestling promotion, he started working with arab bishop. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 5:22

So I was like I saw I heard the post about like he was apparently on his deathbed. I'm like really, and I I had to. I checked the source and the website felt kind of unreliable. And then I went to google and I typed in hulk hogan on deathbed and nothing actually really came up. So I was all like he's been lying man. Look at the little guy here. I completely wrote it off. I just went on about my day and paid no mind to anything and whatever was whole coke. I just went on. Then, when this happened, I was like, was that shit true?

Speaker 2: 6:06

As of right now, it's still very hush-hush exactly what may or may not have. I've you know, from some of the podcasts I've seen and whatnot of other people talking about it, they believe the fact that you know know he was because he had some surgery go down. He died from a heart attack. Well, well, well, it's like, but what? But what caused the extra bit was the fact that, or allegedly I don't know for sure but people were saying the fact that he, he had back surgery recently.

Speaker 1: 6:45

Oh, yeah, okay.

Speaker 2: 6:46

And ever since the back and neck surgery, ever since that surgery happened, he wasn't recovering correctly apparently. Now, of course, this is all hearsay, because no one has actually spoke up and said what the true dealio was. Because no one has actually spoke up and said what the true dealio was, because, you know, one guy said Hulk Hogan's not his deathbed, but then you know, we got Jimmy Hart saying oh, the Hulkster's fine, two days before he dies.

Speaker 1: 7:18

But that's also a thing you know. With just society you don't want to worry people, you know what I'm saying. Like you don't want to be the honest. You want to get the honest truth. Like, say, if he really knew what host condition was and he was just trying to, you know, get media and news away from him because, yeah, when you're trying to heal, everybody's trying to find out like, oh, you're on your deathbed, media is going to storm on that, right, content is going to be made on that and that's, I mean, shit. You literally can see it from his death. There's nothing but memes, there's nothing but videos. There's everybody talking about his passing. Is is a double-edged sword.

Speaker 2: 7:54

That's what it literally is the double-edged sword now, as far as with what you're saying about, um, well, before I touch on that bit, the initial bit about you saying that the privacy aspect of it whether he was actually on his deathbed but we didn't want people to worry about him, kind of thing I definitely get that. But also, at the same time, he very well could have been A-okay and then all of a sudden and that was it true like that was like freaking. I know that happened to my grandfather. I literally back to like what was it? He took me to summer camp that morning and then went home and had a heart attack sitting in the chair, kind of thing. And so it's like just, and like I said he was up walking around like nothing was wrong. So it's like it's a thing.

Speaker 2: 8:55

I've literally have texts as a matter of fact. You know, uh, you know, our, our, uh, our big boy boykin. Like I remember two days before he passed, I was sending him a text message like hey, how you doing? And he was all like I'm doing better. You know, like breathing's getting good, da-da-da-da, you know. And he was like, yeah, I'm pretty okay. We swapped like some memes real quick and then he went radio silent for that time and that was the last conversation we had, because then the next, after a couple of days later, I get the call. So it was like anything and you know we just tell you well, it's your time to go, it's your time to go.

Speaker 1: 9:36

I mean, that's how my mom always said it too. If it's my time, it's my time.

Speaker 2: 9:58

But now the thing that you're the other piece that you brought up about the way people are like they, they almost don't even want to talk about it because they're because of what people might perceive of them, kind of thing. Or you know, I this, this past weekend I went to texas, uh, and you know, and I spoke about it a couple of times to different people and whatnot, and even before that, just talking about it with different people, and it's like maybe it's my, maybe I'm overly forgiving, or maybe there's just certain things I don't look so deeply into as others do, or I'm willing to give somebody a benefit of a doubt to a certain extent, you know, hold them accountable for what they did, but at the same time, like you know, there's, there are people out there who we really loved and respected, and now you know they did something crazy off the wall, and now we're like and then there are some folk who actually still cite them after that. But, however it may be, it's like anytime I would say something. I was, I found myself in an interesting situation where I would like say something good and then immediately get told the opposite of why what that was that I said was good was actually not it kind of thing, you know, like I would give my hot take and then they'd be all like, I see, see, the thing is, though, there was this, this, this, this and this, this, this and the other, and it's just like man, wow, we really out here.

Speaker 2: 11:44

We don't want to give them nothing, okay, hey, but at the end of the day, you know, and to everyone who was watching, like, yes, there is a lot of negative that he has done and, for all intents and purposes, because of that negative, the bit of good that he did do has been completely tarnished for eternity type thing. But then it comes down to that whole fact of like, do we look at the Terryry valet side of it or do we just focus on the, the hulk hogan bits of it? Because, granted, it never necessarily hurt my feelings about him doing the whole N-word thing.

Speaker 2: 12:43

It's a terrible thing that he did and whatnot it's really bad, but there's a lot of wrestlers who have said some really bad things. You know what I'm saying and so but it was like though it's bad and he did a really horrible job and did not. You know, he didn't say sorry and then proceed to be a better person after, as, like, with that tarnish on his name and that tarnishment on his legacy that he pretty much did for himself, it's like people have decided to he pretty much did for himself. It's like people have decided to completely just hone in and focus on that instead of the fact that wrestling would not be wrestling if he did not do the things that he did along with Vince McMahon, Because Vince McMahon also played a pretty big part of that but still pretty big part of that, but still a part of that.

Speaker 1: 13:47

I know everybody is very cross like, yes, what he has done for the WWF era, you know, we wouldn't be where we are today with wrestling right and even when you know the NWO that hyped WWE up to create an attitude era, to bring attitude and to do things like that, and a lot of that influence was because of what was hogan was doing. But, um, I think devon said it best, as he's a man of faith, um, and he kind of spoke it. You know, as for someone who is a man of faith, you have to always remember to be able to forgive. If you cannot forgive, then by the time you are going up to the upper room, you know you're, you are being punished for that. I feel like I could say it best with justice, this statement alone, alone, what Hulk Hogan did and what Hulk Hogan said, can be forgiven if he took accountability. But we can forgive, but we can't forget. We shouldn't forget, you shouldn't forget, but we can forgive. Yeah, and there's. We shouldn't forget, you shouldn't forget, but we can't forgive.

Speaker 2: 15:06

Um, yeah, and there'll, and there's going to be folks out there who are going to be all like you know, like I can't forgive them. You know he dropped saying such things with the N word and blah, blah, blah. But it's like it is to a point where it's like you gotta look at like how we, you gotta look at like how a lot of people kinda looked at the whole. I don't know why this will, but you gotta look at like how we look at R Kelly nowadays. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1: 15:41

Yeah, it's separating the art from the artist.

Speaker 2: 15:49

You kinda have to Now to now, of course, you know then, because the other above like is about is the whole fact of like. Yeah, but hulk holden, he was, you know, he was told him, he was, you know, but he betrayed his friends, he, he was, you know, holding people back and holding people down and this, that and the other. That's not going to work for me, brother, kind of stuff. Do you say that? Also wearing a Macho man shirt, I do. This is the closest thing to Hulk Hogan.

Speaker 1: 16:18

Y'all going to get after me? Oh shit, yeah, I don't got no fucking merch, I'm not wearing no fucking Hulk shirt. But there's a lot of people who who you know, everybody has said their two cents. I mean, chelsea green had to deactivate her social media because she was on a uh um, a new show and they were asking her comments about him. And she tried to keep it professional, keep it company friendly, and just said, hey, you know to who he is.

Speaker 1: 16:45

It's unfortunate this is not, and kept it very professional. And social media said fuck you for that. You were supposed to talk about his racism, you're supposed to talk about this and it's unfortunate that we are in an era where, yes, even yes, we could keep accountability for that. But, like, if you are in a professional standpoint, like in a news, like interview, I'm not gonna cause controversy. I'm not gonna cause controversy. It's not the right place to. If she would have said it in her own platform, maybe, but in a platform that is not necessarily her place to do and to cause an issue that's not professional and she's thinking about her career at the end of the day, and because of that she had to, you know, deactivate her social media because the fans just weren't a fan of that.

Speaker 1: 17:45

And same thing even happened to, um, oh, devon dudley as well. I mean he, like I said before, when he was, uh, doing his episode, um, he was talking about how, you know, hulk hogan revitalized his career twice, first time in tna, um, when he, you know, lost a lot of weight and got in shape and everything. Tna was like yo, we're done with D-Lon, we don't see anything out of him. He says, dude, he got in shape, he's looking great. You know, let's give him something. And they gave him the Legends title, you know. And then you know he was trying to renew his contract and all this kind of stuff. And then they brought him back for aces and eights and devon was like, if it wasn't for hogan, I I've been out of job for a little bit and you know he's like I called hogan out on everything too, like everybody is being called out on it. Mark henry said fuck hulk hogan and uh, in a fucking dj set. I don't know if you saw that.

Speaker 2: 18:44

Oh yeah, that was hilarious.

Speaker 1: 18:46

Yeah, he says in the honorable words of Iron Sheik fuck the Hulk Hogan. And you know everybody's saying rested, pissed, rested shit, like just everything. And it's just like I think Kevin Nash even said.

Speaker 2: 18:59

Kevin Nash even said man, like his family's grieving right now, like give him that space, you know, listen, that's the part that gets me, because it's like it is and I feel as if that's where a lot of people are missing the mark. You know what I'm saying? Because, as especially with it comes to relate to the whole racism part, because, you know, racism happens through hate, kind of all right, and I'm guessing everyone's taking that malcolm x approach to it all and is giving hate with hate, as opposed to being the better person and doing the martin luther king aspect of it all is all like. Sure, let's say we go with the fact that he's racist. Okay, he may have been racist, but I'm not going to do that. I'm going to, I'm gonna come at it with the kindness I'm gonna come at it with, but but no one's hearing that right now.

Speaker 1: 20:05

No one wants no one wants to hear nobody's hearing the martin luther king on their shoulder.

Speaker 2: 20:12

You know what I'm saying, like, because as long as that's happening, that's why racism is going to continue, type thing, and so but like I think, uh, because I listened to actually I actually listened to kevin nash and I ain't gonna lie like here listen to kevin nash's podcast about it was slightly emotional. I was like, damn, because, because it's like one of those things where that was, you know, hulk hogan, whether or not he was racist or however it may be, he was somebody's friend, somebody's daddy, he was somebody's husband, and those people are hurting heavy right now. And in my mind I'm like, can we at least for Jimmy Hart's sake, if we're not going to do it for Martin Luther King, who died fighting to try and stop the hate, you know, at least for Jimmy Hart, for just a brief moment, be all I ailed as we get it, mourn your boy. You know what I'm saying. Like people don't want to do that. People don't want to do it Did you hear about?

Speaker 1: 21:23

they're saying that Brooke Hogan wanted nothing to do with his estate and what he left behind too.

Speaker 2: 21:30

So that was an interesting bit as a matter of fact. So I think, for those who are listening and want to hear, as far as other podcasts that we'd like to listen to I really like listening because he's hilarious, but JD of New York.

Speaker 1: 21:50

I thought you were about to say Jim Cornette. Because Matt loves Jim Cornette, bro, I listen to Jim Cornette too.

Speaker 2: 21:56

I actually didn't get a chance to. Really I didn't finish listening to his spill about Hulk Hogan. But JD, he did and I really like how he did it.

Speaker 2: 22:07

He did a whole thing, talked about hulk hogan and stuff like that and he like he went to like the deep history and there was some stuff that I did not know, like hulk hogan and his daughter, they actually had like a really big falling out, to the point where, like literally, hulk Hogan never met his grandkids because of that falling out. Oh yeah, it was really. There was like a really big, which probably also makes sense why there was that whole deal with literally the whole race, that shit that popped up, yeah, yeah yeah, that makes sense and so as like she kind of literally the whole race of shit that popped up, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 22:46

That makes sense, man, that makes sense. And so as, like she kind of sort of tried but it just wasn't working and so it was like they, almost up to his dying day, they never really completely, you know like forgave and got over what their you know their little bit of situation. But, like I know, what I have heard and saw mostly heard was the fact that she is apparently at peace with everything, because the last time she did talk to him it was a decent conversation and she did get the sit-bate, she loved him when all that went down, which, funny enough, I think they said the fact that the last time she talked to him she called him out of concern Because I guess his health had been declining. But he's doing all of this stuff and she's all like Dad, dad, you should probably take it easy, but you know Hulk Hogan's gonna Hulk Hogan type situation and so like that's what pretty much like the basis of that conversation was.

Speaker 2: 23:54

But like you know, but yeah, they apparently have like a whole falling out situation. But like the stuff that JV the New Yorker is, what his YouTube is, the stuff that JV the New Yorker is, what his YouTube is, the stuff that he said, I'm like it was very nicely said and then another podcast that I would say that also kind of wrapped and said things in a nice pretty bow and I kind of actually said something that they kind of like put out. There was Rustle Talk.

Speaker 1: 24:28

Okay, yeah, rustle Talk yes.

Speaker 2: 24:30

And it was like Rustle Talk. They was like there's, there are four different versions of Hulk Hogan. There's Hulk Hogan who we saw on TV and doing the Make-A-Wish and doing all those things. Then there is Hulk Hogan, the politician who politics backstage and that's not what's going to work for me, brother. Then there's Terry Vallejo, who ruined and tarnished the image of Hulk Hogan, and then there is number four, the Hulk Hogan that Hulk Hogan thought was Hulk Hogan.

Speaker 2: 25:12

Oh yeah, the myth, the myth, the legend that is Hulk Hogan, and to kind of push a little forward with everything, at the end of the day we get it. Hulk Hogan did some shitty things. He said some shitty things and he pooped on himself as far as his legacy and all the good that could have come from it. He did that. Sure, hulk Hogan politicked and did what he could to get his backstage and make sure that he could put bread on his table and money in his pocket, whether it was at the expense of friends or whatever. It might be young talent, etc.

Speaker 2: 26:06

But I almost don't want to fault him for that, because that was all 80s wrestlers. Yes, old time, that's just a trait that old timers had. Either I'm stepping on you and I'm getting mine, or I'll bring you up here with me, but you better be ready to help me make money, because at the end of the day it's just business and so. But I feel the universe has done enough talking about all of those versions of Hulk Hogan, to the point where I feel that, as people of color and brothers in Christ here, I think we can just talk about the immortal Hulk Hogan that we used to like playing in the video games and that we saw had that amazing match with the Rock. Oh yeah, he picked up Andre the Giant and slammed him on the ground.

Speaker 1: 27:19

Which wasn't his first time.

Speaker 2: 27:26

Let's be real. But listen, it wasn't his first time. But you also have to remember how well, nowadays it's a little weird, but back in the day, what happened in one company only matters in that company. You're right, everything else is in canon. You know, that's the difference show. Just like how I think and this is a random cut, but I think what was that? I think, uh, um, duck tales and um uh, what was the other one?

Speaker 1: 27:56

I said where you going with this now it's because of the fact that.

Speaker 2: 28:00

So uh, in duck tales you know the guy, guy who used to fly the planes.

Speaker 1: 28:06

Yeah, I can't remember his name right now, but I know you're talking about him.

Speaker 2: 28:09

Yeah, his name is escaping my head right now, but like he was in two different shows, he was in DuckTales and he was in um- Uh, tailspin, tailspin, Was it Tailspin? No, no, it wasn't Tailspin oh.

Speaker 1: 28:25

Darkwing Duck, there you go.

Speaker 2: 28:28

He was in both of those shows. However, those two shows and the original run of them not canon to each other? Nope, they were not canon to each other. Hulk Hogan slammed him in a non-canon show multiple times as well, as other people had did the same thing, but in WWF, hulk Hogan did it first and so Well, let's go ahead and talk about this wrestling business, because we do have pay-per-view or PLE coming up.

Speaker 2: 29:22

Which is man? I still call them pay-per-views. Somebody still got to pay for tape, someone still has to pay to view them, pay-per-views or pay-per-views, whatever you want to call them, bles.

Speaker 1: 29:33

Premium live events, but we do have SummerSlam coming up, which, if you wanted to come by, you're more than welcome to invite it. It's going to be Matt Good old Matt is going. If you wanted to come by, you're more than welcome invited. Uh, it's gonna be. Uh, matt good old matt is gonna be back. Um, uh, sorry, it's gonna be back. And then, uh, my boy, nuki's gonna be over here too, so you're more than welcome to come by and hang out with us while we all watch as well. And um, speaking of which, when it comes to this card, though, what's this card looking like? I know I've seen it a couple of times. I know I've seen it. I ain't gonna lie. Nothing is truly exciting me about this card, but maybe it's because I haven't ran down the final version of it. So let's go over that real quick.

Speaker 2: 30:19

I believe this now because, as we are doing this, smackdown will be technically happening tonight as we're recording this, yeah, and so it was like you know how they like to just add extra things just to, honestly, in my opinion, to fuck with me or to make us be all like hi, you should have waited till uh, till after smackdown to record your podcast, because there's a match you're not gonna have to talk about well, um prediction wise, are we also throwing our predictions?

Speaker 1: 31:01

oh yeah, that's what this is for okay, okay, just making sure we're not talking about it. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2: 31:05

we're throwing out predictions too oh yeah, I mean we could talk about it and throw out the predictions and the one thing that I am going to say, comparably speaking, I feel like well, actually I can't even say that, but like this, this card and the build up for this to me was kind of better than Wrestlemania, I'll be honest, and they didn't even have a whole lot of time to build, which is a problem, but you know, I feel like this card alone to me head over heels better than what Russ LeMay's card was.

Speaker 1: 31:50

That's crazy. Speak on it, as Trick Williams liked to say, let's talk about it, let's talk about it. I ain't going to lie, man, I was not a super Trick fan, but man, with him and his TNA title, bro, I'm like Trick and A, is this shit popping? I actually don't want to end no title soon. Let's keep this shit going bro, let's talk about it.

Speaker 2: 32:17

let me put it this one thing that I observed from watching TNA and NXT, trick Williams and I kind of like how this has just kind of been a thing. From watching TNA in NXT, trick Williams and I kind of like how this has just kind of been a thing, but they don't really talk about it. But it's like this man has two different crews on the different brands. When he's in NXT he's got, oh my goodness, what do they call themselves? But it's three of them. Goddamn, javon Evans literally just got that fight in his ass. Oh my goodness. But see, now I'm going to have to look it up because for some reason it is Drawing a blank Literally. For some reason it is literally.

Speaker 1: 33:06

But top flight or not top flight, that's AEW. What's the one in TNA? Hold on as Swag pulls up typing up a storm.

Speaker 2: 33:24

Okay, there we go, that's what I needed. Wesley, there it is. So when he's in NXT, he's with Wesley and his little crew that he has, and so that is when he's at NXT. When he goes to TNA, he's got First Class, which is AJ Francis, and that one other dude whose name always escapes me, I haven't completely.

Speaker 2: 33:53

I saw a picture where someone called him SA Rios once. I was like why, that's crazy. It was literally a picture of him when he got put through the ladder at their pay-per-view. Yo, yes, yes, yes. And they was all like, hey, yo, why the guy SA Rios out here still wrestling? I'm like wow. First off, deep cut, because who out here talking about SA Rios still or even remembers SA Rios, which they get points for at least remembering him, damn.

Speaker 1: 34:29

Nah, it's still a violation, though, because I saw that photo too and I was like, damn, that's crazy. Y'all ain't gonna do that shit to homie.

Speaker 2: 34:37

Well, yeah, he literally has two different groups who got his back on the two respected brands, and so it's great, it's been fun.

Speaker 1: 34:52

I just mean Heeltrick, but let's go back to his car.

Speaker 2: 34:56

People like Trick way too much to just accept. Heeltrick is John Cena right now, but I would prefer. I prefer Heeltrick better.

Speaker 1: 35:11

I prefer Heeltrick better too.

Speaker 2: 35:13

Yeah, because.

Speaker 1: 35:13

He better stay at heel. I don't want him to be a babyface.

Speaker 2: 35:16

As I've said before and I'll say it again this John Cena heel turn has fallen absolutely flat and it's not doing anything.

Speaker 1: 35:24

Let's see what happens at SummerSlam.

Speaker 2: 35:26

Okay, let's give it another try at SummerSlam bro, bro, I'm telling you right now, and you know what, since you want to say that we will start at the bottom, I was going to start at the bottom and work our way up to this, but we're here now John Cena versus Cody Rhodes in a street fight. Okay, I'm going to be honest with you. I got no faith in this match. I don't care and that's crazy, because I love Cody Rhodes, but it's like it's a predictable match, bro.

Speaker 1: 36:01

It's so predictable, well kind of.

Speaker 2: 36:05

So when you you say that, what are your predictions?

Speaker 1: 36:08

for this. Cody's winning as much as I want cena to keep this belt.

Speaker 2: 36:13

Cody's winning now let's say, cody wins what next?

Speaker 1: 36:27

I know, but like Cena's, not like to me, I don't think Cena's winning because okay if he, if Cody loses, right then what now for Cody?

Speaker 2: 36:39

it's the same thing either side so Cody wins, beats john cena, all that technically does is set up for a rubber match that we never got with john cena in the rock, but who's's counting? And they have to have that one last fight Kind of thing. And if that is the case, that means the one last fight is going to be on Survivor Series, war Games and so. But then it's like what was why when? Now, on the flip side, if john cena whips, are we just gonna say that he's just gonna ride off into the sunset with the title and and that's what I want.

Speaker 1: 37:37

I want it. I want to see what the fuck they would do, because it's like there's so much interesting, like what happens. You know what I'm saying? That's the part that gets me. It's like, okay, what happens if he actually walks away with the title? That's the interesting part. See, I wish it was interesting, but it's not because you don't care about the run, you don't care about this, uh, this the turn well, see, that's the problem.

Speaker 2: 38:07

I did, I wanted to. I've tried, brother, I have tried, but they have done nothing. I will say they with CM Punk. I will at least say that they kinda peaked interest a little bit, cause if we look down this line right now, okay, you know, the first heel turn happens and this John Cena that we get out of, you know the rock doing his little and all this other stuff is we pretty much get, you know, cry baby Cena talking about how he's been used and abused, and now he's going to ruin wrestling. Cool, all right, using the, that's, that's, that's what we get from that. And then he gets the belt, and then he's still kind of sort of wanting to ruin wrestling, but now he's just trying to show himself. As you know, I'm doing this for me and I'm taking the belt because I'm the only real champion.

Speaker 2: 39:28

And then we get the Randy Orton stuff and it was, eh, you know, like the buildup going into Randy Orton fighting for the title was. It was, eh. I mean, the only reason why it was kind of cool is because, well, randy Orton himself is kind of cool, but Randy Orton can only drag this heel. John Cena. So long, so far, so hard, okay. And then after that we get the kerfuffle with R-Truth, which went nowhere, which brought back Ron Killings to do absolutely nothing, absolutely nothing, and so maybe we'll see him in the street fight, because if they do, that's maybe that'llique my interest a bit.

Speaker 1: 40:27

What do you mean? Is it him interfering it?

Speaker 2: 40:30

Yes, because, as far as I'm concerned with everything that R-Truth did not truly get his lick back on John Cena. As a matter of fact, when him and John Cena had their match again, that's when we got that Dumbass pipe bomb. You know what the fuck man?

Speaker 1: 40:52

Yeah, hit that Scott Hall, you know fucking Never do that again in your life. You've never seen Scott Hall do that shit. No, I mean, it's the way you said it, ooh.

Speaker 2: 41:10

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it was like so that happens Once again. The fact that we're just going to act like Ron Killings has nothing to do with John Cena still just goes to show how much of a like. I can't wait, I guess, to actually watch the whole like backstage shit about like you know what's happening backstage on this John Cena heel turn cause it's.

Speaker 1: 41:41

I don't think Unreal shows anything. Maybe they shouldn't, because lord knows it's.

Speaker 2: 41:44

I don't think Unreal shows anything. Maybe they should, because lord knows it's bad like it's. So you're saying you think John Cena is winning there's a part of me that thinks so I hate it, like I feel, like I almost feel like old me now because I'm like man. I really hope John Cena, john Stanton, doesn't win this year, and because I don't want him to win is the exact reason why he's probably going to win this time.

Speaker 1: 42:16

You know what I might retract my statement. Okay, only because when you brought up the point of okay, so if Cody wins, then what? And it's like you know what you are right, then what cause?

Speaker 2: 42:35

like now, let me clarify this is if Cody wins, then what in the regard of what the fuck are we going to do about John Cena now?

Speaker 1: 42:45

okay, yeah, that's the thing.

Speaker 2: 42:47

Yeah, that's why I'm like damn, you got a point, because he's got like 10 more appearances left, like what is he going to lose? And be all like. You know what you guys, maybe I was right. You were right, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe I was wrong about not liking you guys. You know what I'm sorry.

Speaker 1: 43:12

Should we go on that date again?

Speaker 2: 43:12

I take back everything that I said yeah, I take back everything I said. I love you people Hustle loyalty and respect. And his name is John Cena. As john cena like, or because I've heard some interesting you know banter about, like with cody winning, you know what, if cody rhodes actually uh, actually does sell his soul and and the rock comes out there and looks at cody and gives the and then he betrays and does the heel turn on John Cena to make John Cena become the good person now, because that's how that works. But the thing about it is a double turn. Yeah, you turn a heel with a worser heel.

Speaker 1: 44:04

But the double turn. It has to be organic. You can't do that. Cena, going back face is going to be like, well, yes, his last 10 appearances, of course, are going to make him a face. And then what you do is his last match. It's his last opportunity to take the belt off of heel Cody. He's like the top merch seller right now, just like how like WWE was like with Cena years ago and not making him a heel. That'd be stupid to make Cody a heel.

Speaker 2: 44:37

See here's the thing because when you bring that up, right, that's what should have happened years ago. Yeah, john Cena turning heel right now was that's what should have happened years ago. Yeah, john Cena turning heel right now was. In my opinion, in long term, I feel like it's been a bad move Because they fumbled the bill. Now I will easily admit the initial heel turn the the day of the turn okay, that was beautifully executed. Absolutely I. I would, without research, I would almost agree with people of saying that it could be the second greatest heel turn of all time across all wrestling. It potentially could be. And that's me, without doing the research.

Speaker 1: 45:46

Hold on what the fuck is the best one, then Hulk.

Speaker 2: 45:51

Hogan bro.

Speaker 1: 45:52

Nah. Oh really, you're going to sit here and say, hulk Hogan, I do not feel like that was the best heel turn ever, because it was just like the build up for Hogan's heel turn. It didn't hit as hard as it did for fucking Cena Because, like it's.

Speaker 2: 46:12

Oh. So you're trying to say that the Cena heel turn is better than Hulk Hogan going to the NWO?

Speaker 1: 46:19

Yeah, because like the cinematic behind it, it was like it was so much more compared to. It was like, ok, hulk's coming in here, leg drop. And it's like, oh my God, you know what I'm saying. Leg drop, and he cuts the promo. Yes, good promo. But the whole Cena situation is like you didn't see it coming. You absolutely did not see it coming. Not saying you couldn't see it coming with Hogan, but like it was the biggest fucking swerve ever. And so you see him hugging, you see him do the thing, and then you see his face, the face alone, set ablaze. And then also you see this you know that the whole arena, everybody in their homes, everybody anywhere in this world, flipped a bitch because you never thought you would see the day. But with Hogan it still hits the same. But I just don't think it, maybe because I wasn't watching WCW. That's exactly what it is.

Speaker 2: 47:33

I don't think it's I mean, but here's the thing I don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck. It's because you weren't there.

Speaker 1: 47:39

I don't give a fuck. I still feel like Cena's turn was better. I'm still standing on that.

Speaker 2: 47:47

I'm standing on that and I will allow you to be wrong. It's cool.

Speaker 1: 47:51

Wow. So you feel like in your hearts of hearts that Hogan's heel turn was better.

Speaker 2: 47:58

Absolutely Okay it was, and then the heel turn was better and the run was flawless.

Speaker 1: 48:07

I'll give you that. Okay, so if you count that, then yeah, his was a better heel turn. If you are counting that, if you are counting that.

Speaker 2: 48:19

I'm counting all the above brother.

Speaker 1: 48:21

Oh fuck off. Anyway, next match. We know it's Cena. Go to the fucking next match. Fuck out of here with this shit.

Speaker 2: 48:32

And trust me, I ain't saying it because I love the guy ring, you know.

Speaker 1: 48:37

Don't give a fuck you wearing a Macho man shirt. We know that's not the case. Nigga, Go to the next match. We know that's not the case.

Speaker 2: 48:50

It should have been macho man. But uh, women's match Tiffany versus Jade Cargill, yeah, and if I'm not mistaken, uh, hold on, or maybe I am mistaken, okay, yeah, so I'm not going to lie Like the. Yeah, it's going to be shit. Come on man.

Speaker 1: 49:24

Like it's not Tiffany, because then unless the only way it wouldn't happen is if, um, you know Naomi interferes, but like Naomi's got her own shit to deal with that night, so like why would she do that? Because she's petty and you should proceed with caution.

Speaker 2: 49:44

That's the only like going into this whole thing, like there's a part of me that honestly feels that she would. But the only reason why so, I would say the only reason why it happens is if Naomi loses.

Speaker 1: 50:13

So you're saying her match has to go first?

Speaker 2: 50:16

It has to. Naomi has to lose her title for her to get involved with Jade Cardio's match, to cost her the match.

Speaker 1: 50:23

But here's the thing. Then that means Naomi is a transitional champion and she does not deserve that. So I'm going to say no to that. I'm going to say Naomi wins. And you know how I'm going to say Naomi wins. We're just going to cross these two matches out right now. Naomi wins because Io and Rhea keep this shit going, Okay, and as you saw from that promo, she said whatever the fuck you just said. I don't know what you just said. She's all out of the situation. It's an EO and Ripley situation and Naomi will take the dub.

Speaker 2: 51:02

As an advocate of chaos and looking down the long-nosed barrel of this whole situation, because what you said makes sense. But I think it's going to be Stephanie Valtier and Aria Ripley at the next pay-per-view, the Clash, and whoever it is, where are they? Where does the Clash happen?

Speaker 1: 51:35

It's like, yeah, paris, yeah, clash, and Paris First off, fuck no, if they do that right now, that's wasting WrestleMania money, that's a mania match.

Speaker 2: 51:48

Oh those two facing each other money, that's a mania match. Oh, those two facing each other, that's a mania match tell me it's not. I mean, you could also say yo and uh and real rip, it is a mania match you could.

Speaker 1: 52:01

You could, especially with the story now. But I feel like they would be burning a candle too quick or burning the opportunity too quick if they just throw it at this Technically not random pay-per-view, but it's not a major pay-per-view. Does that make sense? You're wrong.

Speaker 2: 52:23

Summer Slam is literally one of the big four pay-per-views.

Speaker 1: 52:26

No, you're talking about Rhea Ripley and Stephanie solo. You're talking about the solo match.

Speaker 2: 52:32

Oh, that's what you're referring to.

Speaker 1: 52:34

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I thought that's what you were referring to, because it leads to Paris, where they would go against each other.

Speaker 2: 52:42

I thought you were just saying, the fact of Rhea getting the belt in that particular aspect being the one that goes forward into that.

Speaker 1: 52:52

Yeah, because I would say you would save that for a major event, because if you do it at Paris that's not a major event, that's burning money.

Speaker 2: 53:00

At that point to me, that's just to me, I don't know, it's a weird spot, but, like I, that was what I thought, but at the same time well, no, but at the same cause, like the way everything is set up, if Rhea was to win, she would have to be, she would have to beat Naomi. Like, whoever wins would have to beat Naomi, whoever wins would have to be Naomi. They're not going to give it back to Io Skye, io Skye, though, for damn sure nothing.

Speaker 1: 53:32

Oh no, they're not giving that back to her.

Speaker 2: 53:35

Like you know, especially since she did absolutely nothing with the belt. Not her fault, but it is what it is.

Speaker 1: 53:44

I love how you have to, not her fault. Just emphasizing on that.

Speaker 2: 53:47

Share immediately oh, absolutely, because she could have done plenty of great things, but instead she literally had her match at Wrestlemania and then defended it against Rhea Ripley, just for it to be taken from Naomi. That was literally the extent of her title run. That's all she did. But like, yeah I. It's one of those situations in my mind where it's like the chaos in me wants Rhea to win or not? Want believes that Rhea? Rhea to win or not. Want believes that Rhea is going to win. Who do you want to win?

Speaker 1: 54:39

Say something stupid, say something fucking stupid.

Speaker 2: 54:44

That's the problem. I mean, who do I want to win? What if I told you I really didn't want the match?

Speaker 1: 54:54

That's valid, because I don't want Naomi to lose the belt yet. Like, just let this cook a little bit longer.

Speaker 2: 55:02

I would have rather it have actually been Naomi versus Stephanie, or something yeah.

Speaker 1: 55:09

Give or take a match, yeah.

Speaker 2: 55:11

I don't want this triple threat for me. I almost feel about this match the same way I felt about the WrestleMania match that was had. Yeah, with the three of them.

Speaker 2: 55:25

She's just being put in it, being put in it being put in it and shit, yeah, put in it because the other two were just doing the whole bitching and complaining thing. Yeah, which, by the way, on the short that you made, I think you're funny Trying to make it sound like I didn't know what the fuck I was talking about. Piece of shit. But you know it's're funny Trying to make it sound like I didn't know what the fuck I was talking about. Piece of shit. But you know, it's all good. It is all good. If people can read between the lines, they understand exactly what I'm talking about. It is the fact that it didn't need to be a triple threat match. Rhea was only put into that match, only put into that match to sell tickets. And because of that bit is the same reason why we have this shitty John Cena heel turn, because the Rock was only put in that situation to sell more tickets, to get more people to watch, because everyone at the time loves the Rock. Now, you know the Rock Now you know the.

Speaker 2: 56:30

Rock yeah. Tarnishing his legacy, tarnishing his legacy right now.

Speaker 1: 56:34

Fucking it up.

Speaker 2: 56:36

I'm gonna need him to listen. Sometimes you die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain.

Speaker 1: 56:48

That ain't gonna work for me, brother, lord, anyway.

Speaker 2: 56:54

So All realness, though Naomi should take it. Jay is obviously gonna take it. However, if that fuck should do happen in that Naomi match, just remember what I said here today. If that fucks should do happen in that Naomi match, just remember what I said here today. But after that and this one has actually been an interesting one that I've looked into Randy Orton and Jelly Roll versus. Joey McIntyre and Logan Paul.

Speaker 1: 57:27

It's a celebrity match Jelly. Roll's winning so.

Speaker 2: 57:33

I learned a bit about Jelly Roll in this process. I actually watched Steph McMahon's little podcast thing on accident, to be honest with you, because Jelly Roll had which YouTube Shorts I guess they work sometimes where it was a YouTube Short about Jelly Roll and just so happenally, the YouTube Short was Jelly Roll on this podcast. So I ended up listening to the podcast and I don't listen to Jelly Roll per se. I don't listen to Jelly Roll per se. However, after that podcast I might listen to him at least one time just to actually hear what he's about, because Jelly Roll man, he is a down-to-earth person.

Speaker 1: 58:20

He has an incredible story.

Speaker 2: 58:22

Oh man, he talked about that and the stuff that he does, and he talks about the things that he went through and everything. Hell, as a matter of fact, it was almost therapeutic because there was something that he was talking about that I was like, oh man, is that me? I think I'm the same way and it makes sense. Interesting, and it makes sense, interesting, but like he is number one, the perseverance and then the fact that he was able to set his mind on doing this, because Jelly Roll, he's going the bad bunny route.

Speaker 2: 59:04

Ladies and gentlemen, jelly Roll, out here taking bumps, he's been training like crazy and it all stems back to, I think, like the first time he did something. So it was like the first time he did something. He was all like, you know, he was all like he loved it, because he's a long, long time wrestling fan, kind of thing. And then it was like then there was the whole thing where he, like, when he chokeslammed Austin Theory, right, he talks about how he went back to the back and was all like Paul, how can I get in this ring? I want to get in the ring, could I do it? And literally Triple H was just like if he can drop some pounds, we'll see what he can do. We might be able to make it happen. He's like you promise, because I'm going to do it and Jelly Roll has drooped. He is apparently.

Speaker 2: 1:00:10

I forgot how much he said he originally was like uh, he was like three something yes, and for the first, well, he was more like he was like three something or like high threes, yeah, and he's saying the fact that he's been working and still working to the point where, when he comes out here for his match, this will be the lightest he has been since middle school Crazy, middle school, crazy. This will be the first time he's been under 300 pounds, since he was literally a child.

Speaker 1: 1:00:58

I can understand that from a guy my size too and trying to work on that as well.

Speaker 2: 1:01:04

So kudos to him and his determination right now yeah, fam, and his determination was was literally because he's like triple a said that if I drop this I can get in the ring and I can wrestle. And the thing is joey roll has literally paused income coming into his pocket to do this. That's crazy. Like he literally canceled because you know, as an artist you get paid when you do your shows yeah, kind of thing From the ticket sales and all that other shit. He has canceled shows to do this.

Speaker 1: 1:01:53

Because it means that much to him. I mean to be honest. If you had the opportunity, swag would you not do it?

Speaker 2: 1:01:57

oh, of course, like that it's a no-brainer. Listen wrestling. I wanted to be a wrestler first. It's just that music was cheaper to figure out at the beginning. It's become more expensive nowadays to the point where I'm like, damn, I could have used all this money I've spent on doing these tracks to get me some tights and get in the ring. But it is what it is. And get in the ring, but it is what it is. So Randy Orton and Jelly Roll versus Drew McIntyre, who apparently was stuck in England for a little bit because he left his fucking passport. I think that's a word, I don't know, but if it's true, it's absolutely hilarious.

Speaker 1: 1:02:44

I totally think it's a word. Could you imagine?

Speaker 2: 1:02:50

getting stuck, not even in his home country.

Speaker 1: 1:02:55

That's what I'm saying. That's why I feel like it's a work, because it's like a part of me feels like, okay, like it's SummerSlam and this match is kind of bent on you showing the fuck up, wwe bent on you showing the fuck up, wwe gonna make you show the fuck up somehow. I mean, granted, they can't control customs and you, you know, get through the border and anything like that, but it's like they're gonna probably look at you like Drew, your ass, staying in the States until SummerSlam.

Speaker 2: 1:03:28

Now, because you brought up that particular bit here and actually hold on, something is awry, is there something that I don't know? What's that? So, because I don't just, what's that? So because I don't just, I have not just completely memorized what was the list. I'm looking at this list and there's a match that's missing, because you're talking about the whole, you know. Uh, let me know, let me know, let me know, let me know, let me know, let me know, let me know, let me know. My double check now. Oh, he said uh, andrew mactain, there's that one, that one, that one, that one, that one, that one. So because, going off the whole idea of it being a work, what happened to sam punk?

Speaker 1: 1:04:26

and Punk versus Gunther. That's still happening.

Speaker 2: 1:04:30

I don't see it on the list, brother.

Speaker 1: 1:04:33

Well, I mean, they literally just cut a promo about it on Raw, so like they're showing the fuck up. But the.

Speaker 2: 1:04:40

Thing that I'm.

Speaker 1: 1:04:41

I see what you're saying I see what you're saying. Let me see.

Speaker 2: 1:04:46

I think Story sent it to me actually um about gunther the card, no, the card, the full card, um, because he sends me a lot of stuff sometimes because, because I did recently see a video of like when, when, when CM Punk like got out of the ring, he like, fucking, like bumped his back on the fucking apron and people are all like, is CM Punk hurt? And I'm like that motherfucker better not be.

Speaker 1: 1:05:23

I doubt that's the case. If you think he the build up for this match, I don't think would be stopped from that, but I see where you're coming from. I see where you're coming from and you're concerned, but that match is still supposed to happen, to my knowledge okay, I'm believing, that match is still supposed to happen to my knowledge.

Speaker 2: 1:05:51

Okay, I'm believing. Okay, all right, they just for some reason didn't have it on the card. For some reason. Yeah, they said fuck you Apparently. So yeah, they said fuck you Apparently. So Listen I. They said they heard you talking shit. Well, since it wasn't on the card and I brought it up, do you think Seth Rollins is going to show up?

Speaker 1: 1:06:26

I feel like it'll be really interesting, because we want to make sure he's healthy, we want to make sure he's okay, we want to make sure he's not actively injured.

Speaker 2: 1:06:40

Do you think it's a work?

Speaker 1: 1:06:46

I don't think it is, but I hope it is, because that way I know he's still healthy. But at the same time, with the way that they're pushing braun to be like I run this shit now you're not even giving the chance for it to build up like evolution and you know, doing the whole thumbs down shit or whatever, like you know, batista did. So it's kind of difficult to say that because you, we never got it, we never gave it a chance to cook and now he's already calling himself the leader. And if Seth's come back and he's like yo you said you was leader now the fuck you talking about, like you know, it's gonna cause beef, I would think. Or maybe you know Seth might be like yo, cause you held down the fort. Thank you, I don't know.

Speaker 2: 1:07:43

I don't know how that's gonna work so, as far as that piece that you're speaking on, first to say I actually think Seth Rollins is hurt. That's what I think too. I think I don't. I don't think it's a work. Now, as far as, like the brawn breaker, you know, taking the reins and this and the other, I do find it interesting a little different. That's kind of where we're at right now.

Speaker 2: 1:08:17

But brawn breaker has always this whole time has kind of been shown as the loose cannon, but he's smart enough to ask questions. Because you know, throughout all this process, you know Brown will be all like well, paul, what are we going to do? And then Paul Heyman's all like let me put you on game real quick. Here's what's going on. Just sit back, relax, the plan is working, and then the plan would work and this thing and the other and all these things have been going on. That's been a constant thing with him and Paul Heyman to this point where now Bron Breaker's like I've been educated, I know what I'm doing, what is happening. My girlfriend's computer just started making noises. Oh, that's scary. Yeah, I know right, let me know if you see some weird shit happening in the behind me or something.

Speaker 1: 1:09:19

No, you ain't blowing up you good.

Speaker 2: 1:09:23

But so when it comes to the match, though, I'm going to hit you with this discus, larry, aw shit. So match's going Da-da-da-da. It looks like CM Punk is about to, and all of a sudden you hear burn it down. You hear the pyro go off. Cm Punk is all like oh hell, no. Everyone thinks Seth Ross is gonna come. Motherfucker, no shows. Gunther gets up behind him, chokes out CM Punk, causes CM Punk to match without even showing the fuck up.

Speaker 1: 1:10:06

Gunther is the champion, I get with that. Cm Punk loses, I get with that, because the true story is those two going at each other constantly. That is the real story.

Speaker 2: 1:10:19

Even in his absence. He said the one thing that I will make sure that does not happen is you win the bout said the one thing that I will make sure that does not happen is you win the belt. And I feel that's in my heart of hearts, that's what I'm hoping happens, like I would be very hyped to see that something like that goes down, type deal. You know that would be great. But yeah, I think Guffer wins this.

Speaker 1: 1:10:54

I mean that's a no-brainer. I don't think CM Punk is really going to get a title reign while here.

Speaker 2: 1:11:04

I don't feel like that is his mission or what he should be doing I don't want him to like, I would not would actually and this is about to sound like some crazy shit I'm about to say okay, the fact that, like I, because of my past history, that I know a lot of people know about me with Steve Bum, but I would not mind seeing him in the title, it's just the fact that once he wins it, it's like who's getting the rub to take it from him, who is he fighting once he gets the belt, kind of thing, and as, like you know, like where's the story at with it?

Speaker 2: 1:11:55

Where, on the flip side, cm Punk, chasing this belt around, has created not just this belt, but chasing the belts around has been such a story in of itself and with the random people getting in his way and stopping him from getting the belt. At this point I do think it has to. It's almost going to look like the situation with the you know the bloodline and Cody, where it's like now he's got, since he's dealing with Seth if Seth comes back and he still has fucking group, because you know that's kind of up in the air with the way things look, but like he still has the group, the fucking group, because that's kind of up in the air with the way things look, he still has the group. It's like CM Punk if he has the group, then he gets the belt. Cm Punk is trying to get this belt from him and he can't.

Speaker 2: 1:13:00

Because of the group Because of the group type deal. Okay, now maybe there might be that big moment where he finally fights Seth Rollins and then he takes the belt from him, kind of thing. But then I, but then I also feel as if that you know, people will probably card that as like, oh, that's lazy. We already did this with Cody Rose in the bloodline.

Speaker 1: 1:13:21

But it's like I don't know, it's a, it's interesting it's interesting but he ain't winning now I feel like Gunther is going to win it, because CM Punk, I don't feel like he needs the strap, he doesn't need the belt, he just doesn't. He doesn't need the belt, he's. Unfortunately. He has penta energy right now but at least CM Punk wins.

Speaker 2: 1:13:53

I don't mean it like that, I'm just saying right now, fam, cause I meant to actually ask you. I meant to actually ask you about Penta's match in that gauntlet and how they just let Braun Breaker beat him like. I was meaning to bring that up and ask like where you felt and where you stood with that, because I was like damn Brown Breaker really just beat Penta like that. Bro Clean, he beat him clean.

Speaker 1: 1:14:45

The spear is clean. It's a devastating move. The spear is clean. It's a devastating move when Bron does it and he legit gut checking motherfucker. So for Penta, we just gonna let it slide. We just gonna let it slide.

Speaker 2: 1:15:09

We're just going to let it slide well, I feel Penta was aiming too high anyway and he should have actually stuck in the intercontinental title area, which would have been great lucha wrestling.

Speaker 1: 1:15:24

But instead we're going to get.

Speaker 2: 1:15:25

I still would say it's great lucha wrestling, great lucha wrestling, but instead we're gonna get. I still would say it's great lucha wrestling because we got AJ Styles and Dominik.

Speaker 1: 1:15:35

I'm talking about, like it's in, two actual luchadors going against each other.

Speaker 2: 1:15:43

Damn, that's how you feel about AJ Styles. That's what we doing, nigga he up.

Speaker 1: 1:15:46

Anyway, let's move on. Damn, that's how you feel about AJ Styles. That's what we doing. Anyway, let's move on damn.

Speaker 2: 1:15:52

So that's all you got with Dominic and AJ Styles, oh you talking about that match, dominic wins Dominic wins he has to win.

Speaker 1: 1:16:07

He's actually on a good tear with walking around with the belt, showcasing it everywhere like he's, and also him bringing it to AAA puts more eyes on the product. Because you know WWE that's kind of why they do certain things they put a belt on somebody who can have reach in other platforms. That's why Trick Williams has a TNA title. Tna and WWE have that partnership with NXT and TNA. So you put an NXT guy with the belt and you bring the NXT title, you bring the TNA title to NXT. It gets people wondering what's going on TNA, what is he doing TNA? So now we're watching TNA product because we want to see Trick Williams. So it's a smart strategy. So they're kind of like almost even doing that with the Intercontinental title, him going to AAA. Now he's going to be a AAA mania going for the AAA title. Like it's more eyes on the product because of a belt, and I hate to say that the belt does that, but it does.

Speaker 2: 1:17:09

I mean, that's what they did with Jinder Mahal.

Speaker 1: 1:17:13

Let's not talk about that. Wow, they did do that, though they did, and it wasn't cool. They literally used that man, I ain't gonna lie, you're right, though they used that man.

Speaker 2: 1:17:27

I was hyped when Jinder Mahal got that heavyweight belt, but boy oh boy he Canadian. I mean still, you know like.

Speaker 1: 1:17:37

I know, I know he has his origin, heritage is of that nation. But it was just like hey, it's almost like WWE said, hey, one of your people is holding the belt. But it was just like. Hey, it's almost like WWE said hey, one of your people is holding the belt.

Speaker 2: 1:17:54

Yeah, it's a thing, but I mean, I mean technically, that's what's going on with Dominic. Mysterio is like, hey, one of your people is holding the belt, but in Spanish you know, I mean he's the intercontinental title, so it makes more sense too. Alright, I'm gonna let you have that freebie, I guess.

Speaker 1: 1:18:16

Come on, bro, you can't be mad at that one. That shit's good, that shit's true, though it would make more sense. Honestly, I really felt like that should have been a thing, like the Intercontinental title should have been a belt that yo, you got to defend it everywhere, like not saying you obviously are defending it everywhere, but like you're going internationally defending it. That was the younger me saying that back in the day, because I was like it's the Intercontinental title, kind of how, like people found the European title stupid when it's in America, like shit, like that.

Speaker 2: 1:18:48

I mean that's fair. Yeah, I mean, uh, like I, I, I'm, I'm picking up what you're putting down in that aspect also, just only because you did bring up that other promotion there, um, uh, how they got rid of Alberto who was the champion, yeah, they got him the fuck out of here.

Speaker 2: 1:19:15

Somebody was talking about how, like you know, because Alberto Patron, because he's not in WWE Mr Patron is like Mr Patron, it's like Mr Patron was was there, like the champion, and WWE, very smoothly, would talk about everybody else around him but not about him. They talked about one of the guys. They talked about the guy who was going to be fighting for the heavyweight champion, without naming who the heavyweight champion was, but like not until he lost the title. Have they actually spoke about who the champion is and how did he lose the title? He was in a match that said loser leaves the promotion.

Speaker 1: 1:20:07

You want to know how much they didn't give a fuck about him and was already. Val Kingo is like their champion. They were promoting in the States that he was going to be the champion at Worlds Collide and he hadn't even won the fucking belt yet. So on US soil and all US product, you saw he was going, even won the fucking belt yet. So on us soil and all us product, you saw he was going to be the champion and going to be there.

Speaker 2: 1:20:33

But everywhere else, especially mexico, you didn't see that shit you know it's funny that this keeps coming up, but, like when you do stupid shit and you tarnish your image, you know what I'm saying? You fuck up your own legacy Because I was a big Alberto Del Rio fan.

Speaker 1: 1:20:57

You was glazed man nigga.

Speaker 2: 1:21:00

It was what it was. I was all about Destiny. I was so hyped when he won that heavyweight title. Yo, destiny, destiny, I was so hyped when he won that heavyweight title. Yo, that's good, that's good, that was me. I was literally telling someone the other day how I was this close to buying one of those scarves.

Speaker 1: 1:21:19

Oh yeah, I remember you telling me that story. I was right there.

Speaker 2: 1:21:23

And driving around the Bentley and, like Alberto Del Rio, was everything that I wanted. And then he had to go on domestic violence and that's a big no, no. And then he proceeded to just be an absolute. He proceeded to be dog water bro Just all the way up until his last thing that he did to, which was the whole, the whole kidnapping thing that he also did, but was acquitted and it's not on his record, no more. So he allegedly, but still it's such a bad look, and so it's like I can understand why WWE is like listen, we don't want to be associated. You got to get the fuck out of here. You want this partnership to work, he has to go, and he's gone.

Speaker 1: 1:22:24

Nah, they were probably like look, look, look, look. Normally we looking out for our people. But, bro, like you kind of got to go now, dog, like we fuck with you but we don't fuck with you.

Speaker 2: 1:22:38

We fuck Actually, you know what? We just don't fuck with you.

Speaker 1: 1:22:41

Let's be real. We just don't fuck with you, dog. Let's just keep it a buck, homie. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2: 1:22:48

Dominic Mysterio going over. I agree, and if I did not say it, I also think Randy Orton and Jelly Roll are also going over that match.

Speaker 1: 1:23:00

It's a fucking celebrity match.

Speaker 2: 1:23:03

Of course they are like I'm pretty certain they're going over Jelly Roll's going to do something. Dope Jelly Roll out here trying to bring Joe Slams back.

Speaker 1: 1:23:13

If he does something dope that I would think like he ain't going to do. I'm trying to think what crazy shit could he do? Jelly Roll Ben, 50 Splash Yo. If he actually does that, you got to also who is taking that? Jelly roll best, 50 splash yo. If he actually does that, you gotta also call it. You gotta remember taking that. Who is taking that?

Speaker 1: 1:23:32

I mean drew mcintyre is a sturdy young man, nah, drew mcintyre already makes comments about people you know being like heavy set and shit like that, not saying he's doing like an asshole, he's doing as a heel. But I don't, I'm taking that bump. It's probably like Kevin Nash back in the day when he knew Big Show could do moonsaults. He was like, oh word, I ain't taking that shit.

Speaker 2: 1:24:01

No, bam Bam. Bigelow moonsaults for him. Nope. Women's tag team match Raquel and Roxanne versus Charlotte and Alexa Bliss.

Speaker 1: 1:24:15

Boy, I love me some Roxanne.

Speaker 2: 1:24:18

As much as I would really like to see Charlotte Flair and Alexa Bliss win, I really do I really do. I don't think they're going to give it to them.

Speaker 1: 1:24:28

A part of me says they might, because they're kind of on a run with it, but I also don't see them losing it, because Judgment Day is also on this tear as well, and I think what's going to happen is the only way if Judgment Day loses those titles is Liv comes back and you know, speaking of which there is actually a question that good old story has given us that I must bring to your attention. Oh Okay, let me go ahead and pull it up real quick. He actually put it in the comment section, so if you haven't checked it out, it's on there. He put it on one of the videos, specifically the one about the Becky one. Which great video. Love that. Love the outcome of how that was. That took me a while to make, but story says so. I have a question for you, boys at SummerSlam. So I have a question for you, boys at SummerSlam. If there would be a surprise return or first appearance, who would it be and what match would it happen in?

Speaker 1: 1:25:39

just in general yeah, who currently in wrestling? It could be a new. It could be a new appearance, it could be a surprise return, because this is supposed to be a big fucking pay-per-view. We should get a surprise return or something of that nature. And, by the way, audience, if you want your comments read, uh, please put them in the comment section. We're reading comments out in our episodes, so please, if you want to be a part of the pod, put your comments in the comment section. Whether it's YouTube or Instagram or any platform, we're reading the comments.

Speaker 2: 1:26:13

Hmm, let me see.

Speaker 1: 1:26:16

I was going to say Liv Morgan, that would be the surprise.

Speaker 2: 1:26:24

I feel like that's, but I feel like it's way too soon. Because, however, there is also the fact that, like because what is it Freaking? Finn Balor has been really driving the fact that it's going to take her forever to come back. He's like, every time they bring her up, he's all like. You know, I listen, I've had the same shoulder injury. You know what I mean, like and that it took me like nine or like eight to nine months to come back, type situation. And he's been, he's been driving that fact that you know, shoulder injuries take a long time to heal from a lot.

Speaker 1: 1:27:04

So I, because of that, just for that wow factor, I could possibly see that being a thing yeah, because I mean like it was a dislocated shoulder and normally so a lot of people would have dislocated his shoulder and popped that bitch back in.

Speaker 2: 1:27:25

And it's still going. It's all in how it's done, of course, as Finn Balor said. That's why we're in the alternate universe, where it happened to Finn Balor and he did not have a championship reign as the universal champion.

Speaker 1: 1:27:44

He would never have another one because of it too. Unfortunately, I really hate that. That one situation has fucked him forever. Again in the title chart.

Speaker 2: 1:27:54

I'm going to have to think on that piece. I'm going to have to think on that particular bit because I don't know who. Or in looking at the list of matches, I don't know for what match.

Speaker 1: 1:28:08

I mean Seth Rollins return could be a thing you know saying and hoping he's not hurt. That's a surprise return, but like, as in a new appearance from like a hot, fresh, you know talent or maybe an up and coming talent. I think somebody was saying that, um, somebody was going up soon. Uh and uh, oh, oh. Britt Baker.

Speaker 2: 1:28:36

Oh, I don't.

Speaker 1: 1:28:40

I feel like Britt Baker. If we were going to do anything, britt Baker would show up after Jade Cargill wins the title and also you'll hear no, no, no, no. Jade wins the belt and, as Jade is holding the title, tiffany's leaving the ring. You hear, the doctor will see you now and you're like, oh shit, what the fuck?

Speaker 1: 1:29:05

And they do the face-to-face because now it's like it's an AEW rivalry in WWE. Okay, that's a fight. Can't tell me you wouldn't pop for that. I mean like you may not pop for that because you you're not really that versed with brit baker and what she did and all that kind of stuff in aew now, don't get me wrong.

Speaker 2: 1:29:29

I mean against what everyone else says about brit baker. Like I was blind to the brit baker hate in the very beginning and I thought when she first came with AEW I thought she was great. She is AEW Brick Breaker coming here would be interesting. It would be interesting. I don't see it happening. As a matter of fact, I don't even know.

Speaker 1: 1:29:57

Well, she's trying to go to WWE. That's the thing she's been waiting on is her contract to end with AEW and her contract's been gone. Tony's gotten rid of her, so like the possibility has been confirmed yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:30:11

I didn't know that was confirmed, because I know that there was some rumbles about it.

Speaker 1: 1:30:16

I just actually I just never looked well, I might have to look back again, but I heard that he finally got rid of her Her contract ended or whatever because he's been trying to get rid of her and stuff like that. But I may be incorrect, because just to that. But I do feel like if anybody anybody, it would be her. Do feel like if anybody anybody, it would be her. I don't know any other people coming back and they're not bringing back Matt Cardona. That would be dope. But like, even with that, what would the fuck they bring him back for?

Speaker 2: 1:30:53

well, I can tell you right now, as the person who's in the Washington A, matt Cardona, is the the invasion angle is getting set up right now. Matt Cardona is the invasion angle is getting set up right now and Matt Cardona is kind of sort of portraying himself as being on Team TNA right now to help fight the, as they've been calling it, the outsiders, the NXT coalition type situation.

Speaker 2: 1:31:20

So there's that I don't know. I'm going to let that stew for a bit because I don't know, because I'm looking at these matches and I'm just trying to think of someone who could do the thing. But when it comes to this women's tag team match, yeah, I think they're going to keep Roxelle and Raquel with it, perez and Rodriguez over Flair and Bliss, but I wish Flair and Bliss would get that though.

Speaker 1: 1:32:00

I will agree. The little big sister little sister thing they got going on. I will agree only because I think truly them doing what they're doing right now is pretty dope, but I feel like they're saving that moment for they're saving that moment, for they're saving that moment for when Liv comes back.

Speaker 2: 1:32:31

Oh, with them having the tag team titles and stuff like oh, yeah, yeah, Like everything with Judgment Day is kind of locked up a little bit until you know these belts, which is part of the reason why I feel also the fact that I think Dominic is going to beat AJ Styles as well. However, whichever match happens first because these matches aren't necessarily in order Whichever one happens first, if one person drops the belt, then that means I feel they all gonna drop them. I mean, and then Finn and JD are gonna be the only ones with belts and they're just gonna be all like what happened what happened like who?

Speaker 1: 1:33:19

how did we get to this point? How did we get to this point? How did we get to this point?

Speaker 2: 1:33:25

so Lyra versus Becky in a false count anywhere, anything goes and the loser.

Speaker 1: 1:33:34

If she loses, she can never go for the intercontinental title again yes, that that there.

Speaker 2: 1:33:42

I think Lyra's going to get this dub.

Speaker 1: 1:33:44

Yeah, she's going to get it.

Speaker 2: 1:33:46

This is the bow on top to send Lyra out to the world. This is that bullshit. Damn, that's how you feel.

Speaker 1: 1:33:55

Yeah, yeah, you already know I don't like Lyra. I don't Crazy talk Like I don't like lyra, I don't crazy talk like I don't. How about this? I don't like how her presentation is currently, mainly because I feel like she's still somewhat, she feels still very green on a lot of things for me, like, but obviously you can't, you can't get, you can't get really well until you've been put in the driver's seat.

Speaker 2: 1:34:30

I don't like her promo game.

Speaker 1: 1:34:32

I don't, I don't. Her in-ring ability is good. I hate how she cuts promos.

Speaker 2: 1:34:37

Okay, I mean yes, cuts promos. I'm okay.

Speaker 1: 1:34:42

I mean yes, her promos are not great she to me cuts a promo like a high school chick, and when I say about that, it's cause she talks like this when she's holding the microphone and she uses her hands like this. And I'm like, why are you doing that? Like why is every moment like this? And I just don't like how it just throws me off because it seems very you know high school cheerleader vibes and very you know high school cheerleader vibes and I think she was probably high school cheerleader. I feel like she might have been, but like I mean, All right, hey, listen.

Speaker 2: 1:35:36

You don't like Lyra? Go fuck about no Becky Lynch. So I guess.

Speaker 1: 1:35:40

Yeah, you are disrespectful with Becky Lynch. I'm not least disrespectful, or like I at least give her her grace. You are completely disrespectful to this bitch and I hate that.

Speaker 2: 1:35:52

Disrespectful or just honest Disrespectful, I don't know. The wrestling chat would say otherwise.

Speaker 1: 1:36:00

I don't give a fuck about that goddamn opinion about that shit. They my boys, but fuck that shit, man. Everybody has their opinion on their favorite wrestler and what they do. This is mad. We all enjoy our wrestling how we do, but man, y'all ain't going disrespect like the coattail rider Becky Lynch it is what it is. Brother Hulk Hogan did some of that shit too. A lot of people did some of that shit.

Speaker 2: 1:36:29

I'm gonna fuck respect, hulk Hogan rode nobody's coattails. People rode the coattails of Hulk Hogan. I mean, you got a point but but let's put some respect.

Speaker 1: 1:36:39

People rode the coattails of Hulk Hogan. I mean, you got a point, but that's the. Let's put some respect On the man, and I don't even like calling her the man. I don't like calling her the man at all. No, big time Becky, I think I will. Big time Becky, I'm not calling her that either. I forgot you a hater, it's okay.

Speaker 2: 1:37:04

I will call her Becky Lynch.

Speaker 1: 1:37:09

It's that hater talk.

Speaker 2: 1:37:11

That's why she's losing the belt Solo versus Jacob Fatu in a steel cage.

Speaker 1: 1:37:19

This one is actually going to be interesting to me, because I don't know what's going to happen.

Speaker 2: 1:37:30

It's hard to call. If Sola loses, then that completely dookies all over this NFTs group that he's got going.

Speaker 1: 1:37:39

Yeah, but then another Samoan has to come back. That's a hint.

Speaker 2: 1:37:53

Roman Reigns versus Vince.

Speaker 1: 1:38:01

So you're just gonna ignore the yup? That's crazy. He did it on live TV, but you're gonna ignore it when I do it. That's crazy.

Speaker 2: 1:38:14

I can't stand it, bro. And the fact is, is the fact like cause, like it almost feels like you know, like like when you do something and then like everyone's all like, oh man, that is so great, I'm glad that you did that, but it's like you only did. Like you, it was only meant to be like a one time thing, like you was just in the moment and you did it, and then all of a sudden, it's like a couple days later, it's like hey, yo, bro, remember when you did that one thing, hey, yo do that shit real quick. And then you do it and they're like yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:38:49

And you can live it down and then now you're in front of like a large group of people like, hey yo, real quick yo. So my boy does this thing right. Hey, yo, bro, come over here, show up, do the thing, do the thing. It's that fucking Bart Simpson meme where it's like, hey, bart, do the line, yeah, yeah, yeah. And everyone's like, yeah, that's what I feel, cause then after he did it that one time every time you see him it's that and then it just becomes like his catchphrase. Just, you know, everyone says their thing. And then he just yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then he walks the fuck off. You know what I'm saying? Right? And then they did this one thing where there was like like you know how they at football, when they're always like Jacob Matthews, west Philadelphia University, go Raiders oh, yeah, yeah failed.

Speaker 2: 1:39:58

They did that shit with the bloodline and it's like Jacob Fatu was like Jacob Fatu, I love you solo. And then what's his name? He comes up on there. He comes up on there and he's like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:40:22

University, I'm like oh, there's no fucking way. No, no, you gotta show me that shit. I don't know. You gonna have to show me that shit, bro. You gonna have to show me that shit, bro. I don't believe it, bro. There's no fucking way they would do that. Oh my God, he's searching it. Oh shit, oh shit. But I do believe he will show up, because that's the only way, because Solo's not winning that clean.

Speaker 2: 1:41:02

Oh yeah, no, no, there's gonna be some Some uh, there's gonna be some Death riders levels of Shenanigans, bro, like you, dead ass trying to find that shit.

Speaker 1: 1:41:20

You dead ass trying to find that shit. You dead ass trying to find that shit. That's crazy hold on. I think I may have actually found it here hold on but don't play it out loud, so that way it won't interrupt the audio oh, no, no, no.

Speaker 2: 1:41:35

It's not going to play out loud where, it's only going to play in my ear.

Speaker 1: 1:41:38

I don't know, I've been getting a slight echo during the pod a little bit, where it's only going to play in my ear. Oh, I don't know, I've been getting a slight echo during the pod a little bit.

Speaker 2: 1:41:47

It might be because my headphones are loud. I'll turn them down a little bit, but, um, but, yeah, yeah, it's a quote, I think I do have it here. Here it is, this is it. This is it when you hear it.

Speaker 1: 1:42:15

Send it. Send it on Discord. I'll check it out after the pod.

Speaker 2: 1:42:24

But hell, no, yeah, I put it in the thing and so yeah. So, like I mean yeah, I think Solo's going to take it as much as I would prefer Jacob Pato to win, is going to take as much as I would prefer Jacob Patu to win. It's like Solo's not going to lose after getting Tala Tonga. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1: 1:42:47

Yeah, I know he's probably going to break the cage.

Speaker 2: 1:42:52

He's going to pull a cane. That's got to be.

Speaker 1: 1:42:58

That's got to be a Tonga.

Speaker 2: 1:43:00

That's got to be a Tonga. That's got to be a Tonga.

Speaker 1: 1:43:01

That's gotta be a that's gotta be a Tonga, oh and he's taller, taller, tonga.

Speaker 2: 1:43:09

He's, he's a Tonga. He said he's taller and he's a taller, taller, taller, taller, taller, taller. Theater alone comes out, hits with the let me. And you got Tala, tala, tala, tala, holla, holla, oh God.

Speaker 1: 1:43:22

Theater Along comes out, hits with the let me holla at you player. I got Tala with the holla, holla, holla. Actually, if somebody can do that, somebody can do the. You know how they do the WWE 2K teams and shit. Put Tala, hala. Come on, man, just do that shit. If I had the game, I'd do it. If I had the game, I'd do it.

Speaker 2: 1:43:51

Roman Reigns and Jey Uso going up against, as they've been referred to as Bron Bron, bron Breaker and Bronson Reed.

Speaker 1: 1:44:06

I feel like Braun Braun's winning Um no, the thing about that match is something would have to happen. But Braun the Brawns kind of have to win this. But knowing how they normally do take home go home angles and I don't think there's going to be anything that happens on Smackdown with them but normally when they do go home angles, whoever goes over in those angles is normally sometimes the person is losing.

Speaker 2: 1:44:39

I mean when you open goes over in those angles is normally sometimes the person's losing. I mean, when you open the book of booking, yes, that's like the booking 101. However, I really need them to break that number one rule, which I feel is the number one rule of booking is to break the rules of booking to make truth work. But I feel I really want Brunson Reed and them to win, and I even more so. I want them to win and I need Roman Reigns to be pinned Like, because that's the only way they get over, because Jey Uso ain't shit, bro. Let's be honest.

Speaker 1: 1:45:33

He ain't shit. It's just me Uso. It's just me Ugh. You know what? There's so many. Have you seen the video? There's a content creator who does that, or whatever yes whoever that person is, call your own dick. Yes, that shit is stupid.

Speaker 2: 1:46:10

I hate it so much.

Speaker 1: 1:46:12

I hate it so much. I hate it so much. I'll be like I was the whole time I'm watching it. I'm like I watched like seven of them and I'm like what is he gonna do? Stop, what is he going to do? Stop, what is he going to do? Stop, what is he going to do? And he does like everything else, but stop. And I was like I watched like eight, seven, eight of them. I just kept watching them. Why would you do that to yourself? Why would you not?

Speaker 2: 1:46:35

Right Such torture?

Speaker 1: 1:46:38

No, it wasn't. Shit was hilarious. Absolute foolishness.

Speaker 2: 1:46:41

There's a part of me, though when it comes to this, like I want them to win and I need Roman Reigns to lose, but though they really haven't played into it or anything, and I know Paul Heyman brought it up, but I feel like that would be kind of a little cool thing if they play on the fact of you know Roman Reigns, like a little bit of weird dissension between Roman Reigns and Jey Uso. Now, though, we're not talking about what happened on, like you know, the Raws and everything, but when Roman Reigns came out there and he was talking shit to Paul Heyman and he had the audacity to say that Paul Heyman ruined the bloodline, I'm looking at Roman Reigns like Really nigga, that's really what.

Speaker 1: 1:47:38

He's standing on what he believes in, bro. He believe that shit. Paul Heyman ruined the family. He believe that shit. He's standing on that Crazy. He's standing on that.

Speaker 2: 1:47:53

What makes me even more upset is the fact that everyone's all like, yeah, paul Heyman, you ruined the bloodline. The fans are booing and cheering Roman Reigns. I'm like, yeah, paul Amon, you ruined the bloodline. The fans are booing and cheering Roman Reigns. I'm like have we forgotten what tyrant Roman Reigns was ruling the bloodline like a freaking goddamn communist throughout here?

Speaker 2: 1:48:20

he was doing big boy shit he's the reason why the bloodline was all like okay, we're tired of being bossed around, this is all right, y'all. You know we so quick to forget, but it's me, the tribal chief we so quick to forget.

Speaker 1: 1:48:42

But um, it's me the tribal chief.

Speaker 2: 1:48:44

You know your tribal chief but um, but yeah, I, I don't know. I really don't feel that Roman Reigns and Jey are gonna win this cause, like they shouldn't win it cause if they win it, then Braun, I don't know why I'm still calling Braun. Braun, but the Brawns, they, they're getting that Nexus treatment. If that's the case, build them real strong and they don't win the big one and now no one cares. They have to win for us to care.

Speaker 1: 1:49:21

Yeah, they really do. And the fact that they're beating Roman Reigns is what's going to technically for some people it's going to be like, oh, they beat Roman Reigns, that is the care for them, and it's like it's not even that big of a deal. Bro, roman is not the OTC we once feared. Okay, I mean, it's off that pedestal. He's on a different level right now.

Speaker 2: 1:49:46

I mean I think he, I still think he is. I don't know what you're saying.

Speaker 1: 1:49:53

Man, look, he's not the. He's not the. What three-year champion that he was. He's not that dude, no more.

Speaker 2: 1:50:00

Yeah, no, he's not that dude. He yeah, no, he's not that dude. He is the OTC one.

Speaker 1: 1:50:07

Yeah, you would bring up that dumbass shirt, which would mean he's better. And one skills, that's what it means, and one.

Speaker 2: 1:50:18

Roman Reigns and one.

Speaker 1: 1:50:20

That's not the first time.

Speaker 2: 1:50:22

That's not the first time I've heard that joke, which goes to show how bad this is. But yeah, we need the bronze to win this. But talking about caring actually I didn't mean it in that way, but carry him across.

Speaker 1: 1:50:46

I like how you try to flip that Carrying what?

Speaker 2: 1:50:51

Because when I said carrying, it was more so like I don't think I actually care about this match, which is crazy work Damn, that's crazy. I think I want to care about this match, which is crazy work Damn, that's crazy. Like I think I want to care about it. But it's like because, if I'm trying to understand what Karrion Kross is trying to get, is trying to get across, is that he's trying to get Sami Zayn. He's trying to get Sami Zayn.

Speaker 2: 1:51:23

He's actually almost doing a thing that a lot of people said that the Fiend was doing and was like every time the Fiend would fight somebody and he would beat them, they would like revert to this evil version of themselves kind of thing, revert to this evil version of themselves kind of thing. And the only peoples who never actually reverted to an evil version of themselves during that whole bit was actually uh, was actually Goldberg, because he actually beat the fiend, but, um, but it's like carrying cross. He's trying to make people go back to being the evil version of himself, because that's what he did with oh my goodness Xavier Woods, which then affected Kofi Kingston. He tried to do this whole thing with, like, aj Styles and it didn't work and he just kind of left AJ Styles alone, but for some reason he won't leave Sami Zayn alone, type thing cause Sami Zayn ain't got nothing else to do, and so it's like cause KO's not K.

Speaker 1: 1:52:42

Because KO's not present anymore and we don't know when he might be back. Yeah, because he's got a broken freaking neck, and so that's crazy.

Speaker 2: 1:52:51

But it's like, if Karrion Kross wins, like is that supposed to signify the heel turn for Sami Zayn? Like is that what we're going to end up seeing, I guess. So Like I'm trying to understand what Karrion Kross is trying to get across. What is his point he's trying to get across, what?

Speaker 1: 1:53:14

is Karrion Kross trying to get across?

Speaker 2: 1:53:17

Yes, Essentially, but at the end of the day I also still think Sami, I feel Sami Zayn's gonna win, which, for all intents and purposes, to me kind of makes this match like useless Sami.

Speaker 1: 1:53:31

Zayn's not winning. You don't think he's winning? No, because he won the last one. It's a better story to me to see Sami Zayn win.

Speaker 2: 1:53:40

Sami to see Sammy Zang last two, yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:53:43

So I'm saying, so why would he win the third one? I feel like because of this stipulation now, with him saying that you got to say you're, I was right, I feel like they're trying in some way, shape or form to maybe change Sammy's character and my curiosity feels like, okay, well, if he's won the two, he got to win the third one, right? And then therefore, it changes something about Sammy. Does it make him a tag team? I don't know. Does he start following him as a disciple? I don't know, but I feel like there'll be an interesting story of why does he want him to say this so bad and him finally getting him to say it. What does it do to Sammy? Bad and him finally getting him to say it. What does it do to Sammy? Because, yeah, say, if Sammy wins, then character and cross. His character literally becomes Bray Wyatt. He's a, he's a prophet who gives these prophecies and makes people do XYZ, but in every big match he fucking loses. No, we don't need that. Make cross actually matter. He fucking, he's, he's fucking over.

Speaker 2: 1:54:45

Give him something with the definition that you've given already. That's what he already is because, like I said, he sure he kind of successfully did it to Xavier Woods, but he didn't do it to AJ Styles and AJ Styles beat him, and that was it. Aj Styles beat him and he never went back to AJ with Sami Zayn. Sami Zayn beat him once Karrion Kross came back, sami Zayn beat him again now maybe you're right, because that's the same process we did came back, sammy Zane beat him again. Now maybe you're right, because that's the same process we did with Lyra and Becky, where of course Two wins, you lose one. But of course I hate it because it's stupid, I know how you feel about it, but I hate it.

Speaker 1: 1:55:41

It's stupid. I know how you feel about it, but I hate it.

Speaker 2: 1:55:50

I don't hate Karrion Kross. I didn't really ever like him a whole lot. He's kind of grown on me at this point but it's, I don't know. It's not doing it for me, but hey, we'll see. It's one of those deals like it makes sense that Karrion Kross should win. But I just want to see Sammy get this dub and move on with life and start getting ready for you know.

Speaker 1: 1:56:25

KO to come back.

Speaker 2: 1:56:28

KO ain't coming back no time soon for that. I'm just saying that's the biggest story.

Speaker 1: 1:56:32

they keep having and using with him is the constant back and forth with those two. They don't ever let Sammy do anything else outside of Bloodline stuff. What are you talking about?

Speaker 2: 1:56:45

Outside of Bloodline.

Speaker 1: 1:56:47

Outside of Bloodline.

Speaker 2: 1:56:48

So we're just going to act like Sami Zayn's Intercontinental title run never happened.

Speaker 1: 1:56:55

It did.

Speaker 2: 1:56:56

Are we talking about the heel one?

Speaker 1: 1:56:58

You talking about the heel one? Yes, okay, but again, they made him a heel and yes, it was fun, but what I'm saying is the story behind that. It doesn't hold, it didn't hold, what are you talking?

Speaker 2: 1:57:12

It hold for quite some time. It was actually a slow burn. He went on this because before he was short hair Sammy. And then he went on this because he, because before he was short hair sammy. And then he went on this whole conspiracy theory situation. He even had someone. I forgot who it was, who he had with him now, but it's like yes, uh, shinsuke nakamura with him at one point was this shinsuke, maybe?

Speaker 2: 1:57:38

it was, but it's like but it's like like he had like a small little group for a brief moment of people who was following and believed in his, whatever his rhetoric.

Speaker 1: 1:57:47

Like he had. So wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. So you're telling me. So you're telling me, you think Karrion Kross is going to feed off of that.

Speaker 2: 1:57:59

That's what Karrion Kross is doing. Karrion Kross, his whole motive is to make is to remind Sami of that. Sami, because he's like you're not a good person, you're not a good guy and all this other stuff. And Sami Zayn's all like bro, you're weird, go away. Other stuff and Sammy Zane's all like bro, you're, you're weird, go away. Because Sammy I'm guessing in this particular case is repressing it. But it's like that's what Karrion Kross is talking about. He's talking about old Sammy Zane, who was on some conspiracy tinfoil hat, shit and the reason why Sammy Zane has long hair right now. Back when he was walking around with that ugly ass almost looked like it was dirty trench coat, talking craziness. That's what he's talking about. That's what this is all about, but I don't think that's what we're doing right now.

Speaker 1: 1:59:02

I think that's that's where they should go.

Speaker 2: 1:59:07

Maybe I mean, I don't think that's what we're doing right now. I just I just don't see that. I just don't see that being the thing. But you know, I mean, maybe they're, maybe they're actually going to push Karrion on this. I honestly feel like let's move on and do something else with Karrion. But hey, you know, I guess Sami Zayn has time to kill, since, you know, all the belts are grid locked up with our greatest heel turn of all time.

Speaker 1: 1:59:42

John, alright, alright, alright. You a hating ass motherfucker bro. It was a hating ass motherfucker. Nobody likes it oh my god, it's a bust. I'ma have to see you. We're gonna have to see you. We're gonna stop in disrespect. It is see you. We're going to stop disrespecting. It is a bust, bro.

Speaker 2: 2:00:04

We're going to stop disrespecting. One thing I'm glad that they've stopped disrespecting, however, is the tag team titles on SmackDown.

Speaker 1: 2:00:12

Oh man, that match is going to be match of the year. I'm sorry it might be of the decade. Maybe that's a the year. I'm sorry it might be of the decade. Maybe that's a heavy statement. I'm just saying it's going to be that good of a match, man. It's going to be crazy.

Speaker 2: 2:00:30

We have, we got whatever Andrade and Penta's brother's doing DIY.

Speaker 1: 2:00:39

Listen, bro, look at what it is.

Speaker 2: 2:00:44

Igolo in Phoenix fucking, but we got them. We got DIY, we got the Motor City machine guns, we got Axiom, we got the smoke and we have such a weird name. Yeah, I feel as if like Axiom probably has like some meaning behind it. Like Axiom probably like means like speed or something. I have to look up the word, but Maybe this match.

Speaker 1: 2:01:26

That's the match I'm looking forward to. I think Wyatt's keep it. Yeah, they do. I don't think any titles are really moving, except for, besides, jade Intercontinental title stays. This might be just a pay-per-view where, yes, it's the biggest party of the summer, but I don't really see any major title terms.

Speaker 2: 2:01:53

Damn. I hope that you're disrespecting the Intercontinental title for the women.

Speaker 1: 2:02:01

Oh shit we did just say that, yeah, my bad, no, no, no, I was disrespecting that, was not disrespecting that. I completely forgot about that match. That is not even the case. But yes, valkyria, and then the women's title. So those will probably be the only two title changes.

Speaker 2: 2:02:16

Funny but, actually it's all the women's, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 2:02:20

So everything else doesn't feel like it's going to change.

Speaker 2: 2:02:26

But if they do, then that throws a lot of curveballs. That boy, WWE, could use some curveballs.

Speaker 1: 2:02:35

Could they, or do they? Because I mean, honestly, what curveball besides you not liking this, cena heel run. What other curveballs do you feel like it needs to have or like what needs to be done?

Speaker 2: 2:02:51

the curveball is not me hating the john cena heel turn. The curveball would be doing something that would make me be like, oh shit, maybe this heel turns kind of great, that's a curveball. Would be doing something that would make me be like, oh shit, maybe this heel turn's kind of great, that's a curveball. A curveball would be Naomi losing and then coming out there and fucking over Jade. Or even better, naomi wins and she still comes out there and fucks over Jade. That's a curveball, okay.

Speaker 1: 2:03:24

Now, that's right on schedule. Though that's right on schedule actually. That's not even a curve, that's right on schedule.

Speaker 2: 2:03:29

I mean you was right, you was right, that's right on schedule.

Speaker 1: 2:03:33

That's gonna happen.

Speaker 2: 2:03:37

So yeah, that's what I'm talking about. When it comes to curveballs, you know something that'll make me be all like, oh, this is interesting now, because that's what I like, that's what I want.

Speaker 1: 2:03:53

That is what's wrestling, that is what's great about wrestling.

Speaker 2: 2:03:56

That is what wrestling needs to be. And sometimes is and sometimes it isn't, but yeah, that's the long-ass card Because it's two nights.

Speaker 1: 2:04:13

Yes, and this is a long-ass episode.

Speaker 2: 2:04:18

I mean, listen, there was two very big things that was talked about SummerSlam and goddamn Hulk Hogan. And listen, regardless of what people say, personally I'm going to say rest in peace, because at the end of the day, a life was lost. A life was lost, yes, and who knows? Because we're not, we can't judge him, but hey, in his time of leaving he was going to church and maybe somewhere in there he may have gotten right with God. Who knows? We have to go up there and find out and so well, aside from that, summerslam, I think, is going to be fun and I'm hoping to be wowed with the drink with the drink in your hand.

Speaker 1: 2:05:24

Yeah, as you say that, with the drink in your hand. That's crazy. Wow me, wwe, wow me, it has to. You basically make it secondary to WrestleMania. It needs to be wow, it needs to be like oh shit, do we need to make this happen every time? Because it's your first tip.

Speaker 2: 2:05:45

The answer is yes. It's your first tip. If you're not, if you're not, if you're not, they have. If they give us another WrestleMania, if they give us, if they give us what they gave us at Wrestlemania this year, fuck and if you're not down with that, we got two words for you no, ye, yeah, no ye.

Speaker 1: 2:06:14

Well, guys, I want to say thank you so much for another episode of the podcast. If you guys have any comments again you want us to read, put us in. Put us in, put your comments in any of our forms of media whether, if it's TikTok, youtube, instagram, any of your questions and we'll be able to read them out in the pod so that way we interact with you guys as well. Any final thoughts? Swag, swag, before we kind of go into summer slam um.

Speaker 2: 2:06:46

No, I don't think. I don't really think that I do um outside. Oh, you know what? I might have one to answer that question, right? Oh yeah, go for it. I might have one to answer that question, right? Oh yeah, go for it. With the things that are going on in this, like with the street fight or I would probably I want to say, for some reason I was thinking with the Sami Zayn and Karrion Kross type situation Freaking if I was going to just to randomly bring somebody up, bring up that, uh, that faction on NXT. Um with those, uh, with um, that kind of reminds me of the Shield a little bit. Fuck. What is their name? Now, boy, why are the names escaping me?

Speaker 1: 2:07:41

It's cause it's late.

Speaker 2: 2:07:44

But if you haven't watched NXT, there's like this little faction that's been like they literally just like it's like five of these, it's like five dudes.

Speaker 1: 2:07:58

I know you're talking about. They've been like wearing them face masks and everything. I can't remember their name either. It's like a weird name too.

Speaker 2: 2:08:05

It's like they show up and they just completely like.

Speaker 1: 2:08:14

What was that? Group Retribution or whatever Some shit like that? What was it?

Speaker 2: 2:08:20

So funny that you brought that up because it would be in Karrion Kross' match. And then it turns out Karrion Kross is like their boss or some crazy shit okay, and then was he trying to get Sammy to join the fold uh, no, just just to say fuck you Sammy.

Speaker 1: 2:08:41

Just to say fuck you Sammy.

Speaker 2: 2:08:43

Just to say fuck you, okay, because you know, because that's what they do. Or even better, they just show up and they completely, and they just write both of them. And they just completely Well, I was going to say yes, both of them or they show up and they just completely ruin the John Cena and Cody Rhodes match.

Speaker 1: 2:09:06

So next is all over again.

Speaker 2: 2:09:08

Well, actually they couldn't do it for that match. They'd have to do it for CM Punk and Gunther, because at least that match can have disqualification. Because Cody Rhodes and John Cena's match is a street fight. So there's that. Well, I mean, and John Cena's match is a street fight. So what is that?

Speaker 1: 2:09:22

Well, I mean the fact that it's a street fight. I mean it could lead to a no contest.

Speaker 2: 2:09:31

Yeah or something.

Speaker 1: 2:09:33

Yeah, that's a possibility, like if it's the last match or whatever of the night and they just wrecked the ring just like how Nexus did right and it leads to the match being a no contest. But it would have to be the second night situation. It couldn't be the first night, it has to be second night.

Speaker 2: 2:09:53

Or scratch all of that. Obafemi comes up and he challenges Gunn, Because Obafemi needs a new challenge, because he's literally beaten everybody in NXT that would be a a worthy match. I'm going to stick with the Obofemi one, because we can use that for when Gunther wins or when John Cena wins and Obofemi's like I'm going to fight you instead.

Speaker 1: 2:10:23

I want y'all to know I've been wearing these way before. Obafemi been wearing them, bro. I want y'all to know this, bro. This been on my neck since 2019, homie, we been rocking these forever, bro. I want y'all to know I be wearing these. I don't wear these just to the ring, I wear these everywhere. Give us the outro.

Speaker 2: 2:10:46

Give us the outro.

Speaker 1: 2:10:47

Anyway, give us the outro this motherfucker is my brother and he is a hater. It be your own family. Alright, guys, if you haven't yet, please like this video. Chokeslam that like button too. So subscribe and we will be seeing you on the next time, because where the questions are real, the ring is sacred destruction guaranteed. It's your boys with the big brothers of destruction podcast. It's the Masako. It's your boys with the big brothers of destruction podcast it's the masuku, it's your boys swags which uh.