WWE Clash in Paris Review

The stunning Eiffel Tower backdrop finally gave WWE the premium live event atmosphere fans have been craving, but did Clash in Paris deliver beyond its spectacular visuals? Our hosts dive deep into a show that promised much but delivered mixed results.

Roman Reigns and Bronson Reed kicked things off with a predictable yet solid opener, but it was the post-match chaos that truly electrified the crowd. Reed's multiple tsunami splashes on the Tribal Chief established the Brawn Brawns as legitimate threats, showcasing how WWE can effectively build new stars even in defeat. The hosts analyze why this segment outshined the actual match and what it means for both competitors moving forward.

The conversation takes fascinating detours into wrestling philosophy, comparing WWE's slow-build approach to AEW's high-octane style, and debating what makes a "GOAT" in professional wrestling. Is John Cena truly deserving of that title when he's spent his entire career in one company? And is his retirement tour being wasted on opponents like Logan Paul when dream matchups remain unexplored?

From the underwhelming tag team showcase to the surprise "ninja" interference in the main event, we break down each match with unfiltered honesty. The Rusev vs. Sheamus Donnybrook emerges as the night's highlight, while Becky Lynch's potential mixed tag program with CM Punk (possibly involving AJ Lee) sparks heated debate about missed opportunities and questionable creative decisions.

Whether you watched the event or just want the unvarnished truth about WWE's final Peacock-exclusive premium live event before moving to ESPN+, this episode delivers the passionate analysis wrestling fans crave. Subscribe now and join the conversation about what WWE needs to improve as they transition to their new broadcast home.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Show Introduction and Clash in Paris Overview
• 1:29 Roman Reigns vs. Bronson Reed Analysis
• 11:12 GOAT Status Debate: John Cena and Undertaker
• 19:05 Tag Team Match and Street Profits Concerns
• 27:51 Becky Lynch vs. Nikki Bella Match Assessment
• 36:31 Rusev vs. Sheamus Donnybrook Match Highlights
• 48:32 John Cena vs. Logan Paul Discussion
• 1:01:41 Fatal Four-Way Analysis and Becky's Interference
• 1:28:03 Overall Pay-Per-View Rating and Final Thoughts

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:09

welcome to another episode of the big brothers of destruction podcast. It's the masako.

Speaker 2: 0:15

It's your boy swag switcher in the building that's story of sorrow for the third time.

Speaker 1: 0:21

Can we get the audio this time, please? And we get the audio this time, Please. Can we get the audio this time? Oh, it'd be great. It'd actually be quite grand actually. But yeah, man, we just got finished watching Clash in Paris and when it comes, we just got finished sleeping through Clash in Paris. Apparently, from Story's perspective, and I will slightly agree it was a little bit of a snooze fest. How is it that the best segment for me in the entire show is Tsunami City, bro, Like just straight tsunamis All on Roman. That, to me, is the best. But we're going to get to it. We're going to hear everybody's opinions on the show and then just kind of go down through each match, Through each of us. So, first match of the night Matt story. How do you feel about Braun versus Roman?

Speaker 3: 1:29

It was alright. Honestly, it wasn't anything special.

Speaker 2: 1:34

Oh, that makes sense.

Speaker 3: 1:36

It was a typical Roman Reigns match Versus a big guy. Okay, you see it. When he was versus Brock Lesnar or Braun Strowman, it's the same guy. Okay, you see it when he was versus Brock Lesnar or Braun Strowman same style. Okay, it's a typical Reigns versus big guy match. There was nothing really at stake for this match, other than the Shula fallout.

Speaker 2: 2:01

Which he threw away afterwards, which is all like so you tell me you fought this man to get your shoes back.

Speaker 3: 2:07

Yeah, but Tony said he snipped the fucking laces.

Speaker 2: 2:11

I mean he could have got those relaced.

Speaker 1: 2:14

And then he didn't throw both shoes into the audience. He threw separate shoes, bro, you should have kept them in pairs.

Speaker 2: 2:18

Yeah, I am curious to know what happened to the other two pairs.

Speaker 1: 2:22

Yeah, that was a little goofy Well he threw the red ones.

Speaker 2: 2:26

He threw one pair of the reds and one pair of the white too, and so he did one of each color, and he was signing the other two to get ready to toss them, and that's when he got the spear. And so I'm just like that last spear was gorgeous.

Speaker 3: 2:43

Wasn't Carlito level, though? That last spear was gorgeous.

Speaker 1: 2:46

It wasn't Carlito level, though, but it was gorgeous.

Speaker 2: 2:51

I think he jumped too early. He jumped too early, but like.

Speaker 3: 2:56

It looks so beautiful. I watched him soar.

Speaker 2: 2:59

It still looks good. I was saying this, I said this before and when it came to the way that he does that spear, whenever he does the spear and he's running down the ramp, he needs to make that the way he just does the spear, because like when he or at least I should say the lunge, because that's really what it is when he lunges himself at somebody that should be his spear. In the way that he does it like, and the only way he'd be able to really do it in the ring is like it's like he has to. It's literally bounce off the ring and he's midair at the person and he needs to get at least a good one second of air time before bodies connect. That's how he should do his spear from now on, in my personal opinion.

Speaker 1: 3:48

I'll agree. I mean you, you've already expressed before in another episode that the spear is a overly used move, extremely, and it needs to have some kind of significance to it to make it stand out, and I feel like that would make it stand out a lot to you.

Speaker 2: 4:04

Oh, 100%, because I still stand by what I said in the earlier podcast episodes before I wish Braun Breaker would have a. I wish he had a better and more impact, like fucking dropping somebody down on the mat kind of move. And I will admit, though, though, that he has brought up this spear and made it a little bit more. For lack of better, he's made it more spicy, he's given it a, a bit of flavor that a couple of months ago did not exist, kind of thing. And so the the spear is, it's getting there, but I feel to further said, apart from your goldbergs and your edges and stuff like that, I feel if he would, if he focuses more on getting that lunge in before body connection on the hit I, I think that will take his spear to places To the moon.

Speaker 3: 5:09

Possibly. What about Rhino's spear? That's a gore, there's a difference. No, the gore has never been kicked out of, but the spear has.

Speaker 2: 5:18

That's why we don't talk about Rhino's spear.

Speaker 3: 5:20

Yeah, we talk about his gore.

Speaker 2: 5:24

His gore. The gore is in a category of us whenever you hear people.

Speaker 2: 5:28

Whenever you hear people talk about your playstations and your xboxes and all that other stuff, the gore is nintendo. All right, you don't. You don't judge nintendo in the same category as Sony Xbox. I'm sorry. Wow, I mixed that up Microsoft Xbox and Sony PlayStation. You know what I'm saying, you don't? He kind of spitting y'all? It's a completely different category of judging that you have to go through. He's spitting, motherfucker's spitting. It is what it is. I don't write the books, we just preach what they say.

Speaker 1: 6:06

All right, is what it is. I don't write the books, we just preach what they say. Alright, man. So overall, getting Story's opinion Swag. What is your opinion on the match?

Speaker 2: 6:18

I mean honestly, to me it may be because I'm a Brunson-Reed guy, but I thought this match was solid. It was fairly a decent match. Yeah, it wasn't anything crazy, nothing really to shake a stick at. You know, of course Roman was going to win, but I will agree with you on the fact that everything went to another level on the post part of the match.

Speaker 3: 6:40

Oh, yes, 100%.

Speaker 2: 6:43

And, once again, even though Brunson reed lost, they still had him looking strong and nasty and powerful as a monster at the end. Also, it kind of sets up the dominant factor that though the brawn brawns have right now on everything and I think we're about to definitely actually they didn't make it too noted, but I'm pretty certain where they were trying they were definitely hinting at on the fact that braun is going to be going up against him next, but with the extra tsunamis and all that other stuff, it's like all right, all right, so they're. So they are legitimate badasses and I'm messing with them.

Speaker 1: 7:29

I loved how Ronson was just trying to find an opening. He was running around. He's like I'm trying to jump on this motherfucker. It was just like yo that's—. He was hungry.

Speaker 3: 7:39

He's got to find a turnbuckle.

Speaker 1: 7:41

I love that about his character and how he can do that. He's just, I just need an opening and I'm just going to fall off and it's just. It's something about the tsunami the way he's doing it, even though it's not that devastating of a move, you know, like, as some would say, like the spear and stuff when Roman's doing it, but the way he does it post-match or in post-situations, it he does it post-match or in post-situations, it looks like he should be killing them.

Speaker 2: 8:08

Like the way he's doing it, listen anytime he does the tsunami. There is a very interesting science to the tsunami, where it's like the setup, the initial pull of the trigger of the tsunami, the impact of the tsunami, like all of those pieces put together is what makes it so freaking good. Yes, because I mean.

Speaker 1: 8:40

Shout out to Bam Bam Bigelow.

Speaker 2: 8:42

For all intents and purposes it's just a big man splash. But when he does it, there is this almost there's like this sense of like, urgency and a slight sense of like he is jumping at the bit to get this move on to him when he's doing it, because it's like he climbs up to the rope and he doesn't even properly perch himself up there. It's up up and he just goes into it. It's just like there's that I need to land and squish this man as soon as possible and apply as much pain and hurt as I can.

Speaker 3: 9:23

Well, that definitely happened when he landed on fucking Reigns' head.

Speaker 1: 9:26

Yes, the second tsunami he like hit his head at one point, but every other tsunami like I mean, we know obviously he's performing it safely but like every other one, just looked like, uh, he took, he properly did the move, but it just every time the cell, like everybody selling the tsunami sell, like everybody selling the Tsunami is Everybody selling the Tsunami is great, I would say. Overall, the match. It was pretty much one of the highlights of the show. You know it was a decent match, A little good build, but yeah, guillotine yeah, guillotine of uh Paul Heyman listen he.

Speaker 2: 10:09

Yeah, I actually expected Paul Heyman to like mid guillotine, go limp yes, I thought I was gonna see that but he didn't do that, and I feel as if he should have if he would've did that cause he was squirming, squirming and he kept squirming up until he dropped him. But it was like he should have been squirming, squirming and then just that would have been spot on.

Speaker 1: 10:33

But overall, good first match, decent first match, I'd say. Rating-wise, I give it a. If we're going off the Sonic ranking system, I gotta give it at least a, b, no, no, no, no, actually no. E is the lowest ranking, right, e is the lowest, okay C. I thought D was the ending for a second.

Speaker 2: 11:03

I was like a B.

Speaker 1: 11:05

Nah, see, yeah, see, yeah, see the end, the post angle made it a B.

Speaker 2: 11:13

Listen, the post angle is what made it a B.

Speaker 1: 11:16

You say the post is what made it from D to C, absolutely.

Speaker 2: 11:19

Damn.

Speaker 2: 11:22

So here's the situation right now, because we're also hot off the heels of, well, honestly, a pretty lackluster, uh forbidden door yeah okay and for all intents and purposes, even though one pay-per-view had goddamn a thousand matches and this one had like six matches, when you compare the quality and the quantity together they're still roughly the exact same level of interesting when you when you line them up side by side. It's just that AEW had a whole bunch of extra matches to try and help boost those numbers up where WWE, they only had like five or six matches to equal the exact same thing as what AEW did and, comparatively speaking, I would probably still say even after that it's extremely close. But I think in overall sense WWE is still kind of better, but it's barely noticeable how much better.

Speaker 2: 12:48

It's just like yeah it is intensely close because where WWE pay-per-views in matches compared to AEW matches, wwe's matches, there's build-up, there's build-up, there is build-up to a high point, and high, what's the word?

Speaker 1: 13:13

I'm looking for High stakes.

Speaker 2: 13:14

No, not so much the stakes. So the way that WWE does their matches, it's like it's like it's got their slow start and it's like it builds up to a point and then it starts getting crazy, as where, with aew matches, they start right, fucking here, okay, they start up real high, and then they have to, and then they try to push the barrier. They start off overclocked, okay yeah, and then they're trying to break the needle so it can go back to overclocking once again. Yeah, where WWE? They start here and they very rarely right now.

Speaker 2: 14:02

Very rarely right now, very rarely do they overclock anything Like tonight. There was no overclock. They probably felt like they did with the way that they ended it, but no, they stayed at best here as opposed to being right here. But the problem with starting off right here you don't go anywhere anymore. So if you start me off super hyped up and then you don't continue to hype me up all right now, I'm gonna get cold and I'm gonna get bored. And then, because they do that every, every match, we starting right here. Next match, we starting right here. I, I'm tired, I'm tired. Give me something to like. Okay, we're starting here, build me up and then hit that overclock as opposed of no build up at all.

Speaker 1: 14:57

Well, maybe and this is not me like trying to defend them maybe to them, starting here is their norm and maybe that might be their philosophy or some shit like that, but that's just only taking how they always do it constantly and that's the problem.

Speaker 2: 15:17

Starting there can be the norm. Well well, starting there shouldn't be. But if you're going to make it, you got to make it some kind of special, yeah, like, for example, all the matches that we've had tonight. Even with our hardcore match, there was only what? Only John Cena and Logan Paul bled.

Speaker 3: 15:44

No.

Speaker 1: 15:45

Who else bled Becky on her arm?

Speaker 3: 15:49

Cena on the face.

Speaker 1: 15:50

We're talking about.

Speaker 3: 15:52

Cena's face that shit type shit.

Speaker 2: 15:54

So Becky cut herself.

Speaker 3: 15:56

And then Cena and Paul cut themselves.

Speaker 2: 15:59

And Cena and Paul. But from the way that blood looked it was accident yeah.

Speaker 3: 16:03

There was no intentional.

Speaker 2: 16:04

There was. There was no intentional bleeding, so no intentional bleeding, and we are at the level of energy and feeling as we was. Aew had profusely bleeding, yeah, and we were in this, we had the same exact energy. Yeah, that's a problem. Yeah, that's a big problem. Yeah, at least aw should have comparably speaking, visually wise.

Speaker 2: 16:34

Aw, I should have been hell over the fucking moon and back with the kind of the, the visual presentation of it all, but at the end of the day, I feel the exact same way. I feel about this pay-per-view like how I feel about Forbidden Door. To be honest with you, the only difference is no oombop. Not the boombop I mean I actually enjoyed that part. I'll be honest, I kind of liked part.

Speaker 1: 17:05

I'll be honest.

Speaker 2: 17:05

I kind of liked it. Let me put it this way when AEW popped me on the Mbop, WWE popped me on the beautiful TitanTron that they had.

Speaker 1: 17:16

Yes, finally, we literally had an episode for this and, god knows, that was like the first thing I said when we was watching. I was like, finally. Thing. I said when we was watching. I was like finally a fucking titan.

Speaker 2: 17:26

I literally as I'm, because I'm driving, uh, on my way to a resort to drop off my roommate and as the thing is starting, they did the little presentation. You see the little eiffel tower picture, and all of a sudden the lights come on. I'm like, oh, that's the titan tron, oh yes. And then, as I'm getting ready to type something about it, in the group chat, someone's like man, it looked like they put some effort into this pay-per-view. Yes, yes, spoiler alert, they did it.

Speaker 1: 17:55

They did not and it was so. It was so frustrating because at first, when I saw that, I was like, is that just an l? Is that a screen with the eiffel tower on it? And I'm like, no, it screen with the Eiffel Tower on it. And I'm like, no, it's actually the Eiffel Tower. Holy fuck. Like yes, you finally put some effort into a goddamn stage.

Speaker 2: 18:15

One of the ways I just thought of that this reminds me of, you know, when you be watching TikTok and they'll have like those things where it's like a guy comes through and is like, hey, so you know, we got this pay-per-view that's coming up. Uh, this is the last one that we're doing for peacock, so, like who really cares about it? You don't gotta go too crazy on the titan tron. Honestly, you could just have a couple of leds and call it a night this than the other. Uh, we're not even gonna have a whole bunch of big matches. So, uh, don't, don't, don't overdo it when we put the titan tron. Seize the titantron with the big fucking Paris statue and all the fixes and everything. Yeah, just to have. What was the second?

Speaker 1: 18:55

match. After that Second match was Was it tag team? Was it what Tag team?

Speaker 3: 19:01

Because after that was Becky, oh, but yeah, it was tag team, tag team, tag team.

Speaker 1: 19:03

Was it what Tag team? Because then after that was Becky.

Speaker 3: 19:07

Oh, but.

Speaker 1: 19:07

Yeah, it was tag team, tag team, tag team. Yeah, it was a tag team match. Yeah, so, speaking of which kind of going more down in the card, I can start off by saying Borderlands what the fuck bro? Why are you connecting yourself to fucking Street Profits? What is up with this fucking product placement?

Speaker 3: 19:27

dude, like no, traumatized by WrestleMania and his fucking ass From the ad placement of WrestleMania.

Speaker 1: 19:40

Are you fucking kidding me? The only ad placement I appreciate and can accept is the Slim Jim tables, and that's barely. I can accept that.

Speaker 2: 19:49

That's barely.

Speaker 1: 19:50

Yeah, like that's like. Okay, that makes sense, I can get behind that, but everything else nah, man chill the fuck out.

Speaker 2: 19:57

That's barely yeah, see, the problem is, see, here's their issue. They're trying to do these things with people who are not cosplayers. All right, yes, now flip the script. If they would have gave this to someone like New Day or Selena Vega, that would have been on point. Selena Vega, that would have been on point.

Speaker 1: 20:22

Rey.

Speaker 2: 20:22

Mysterio yeah, that would have been on point. The king, that would have been on point. Honestly, you saying that I would love to see Rey, rey Mysterio as a yo yo?

Speaker 1: 20:36

bro, as a loot midget bro, oh, my god missed opportunities no, Hornswoggle as a loop midget would have been fucking perfect.

Speaker 3: 20:46

No bro Are you kidding me?

Speaker 2: 20:49

I'm just saying, like they wouldn't have did that that would have been great though I know Hornswoggle is a little bit down for that, I'd be like hell, yeah, Hell. Hornswoggle would have been down.

Speaker 1: 20:57

He was like I don't like if they're trying to spit up Dawkins and Ford. I don't need them to do that. I don't need it. I don't need you to do that. This is a tag team that really to me, unfortunately, montez should be getting a main event spot in the future. I feel like he has that potential of being a main eventer, but he obviously he could do it with a tag team partner. I just don't, just don't know, man, I just don't. I know, I know this much I don't want them to see them break up. I don't ever want to see them break up.

Speaker 2: 21:33

No, what I need them to do, I don't need them to break up.

Speaker 2: 21:38

If anything, sure, maybe one can get injured for a moment yeah and then let the other one do like a little solo thing or let them like, but when they come back, they come back, do the tag team thing, boom, bang, bop, and keep it going type deal, like I don't I they, I need them to keep the tag team together. Yeah, like they are, I think they'd be a great forever tag team. Yeah, I'm saying like because those almost don't exist or they barely happen nowadays. But like you know, where's our like forever tag teams like the road warriors were. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1: 22:11

like, like low-key, the hardy boys like low-key, yeah, like or dudley's the greatest tag team of all time.

Speaker 3: 22:20

Fight me, bitch we had conversation about this earlier. Yeah, that's what I'm saying fight me bitch I had a good point, though, when it came to the whole goat thing yeah, they're the.

Speaker 1: 22:30

They're one of the only tag teams who's gotten tagged, by the way, not just being tag teams in other promotions, but winning their titles. New japan fucking tna wwe ecw roh. Like they've won belts. Fucking TNA WWE ECW ROH. They've won belts everywhere they went. They're like 28 time champions. Come on, bro, greatest of all time, fuck that what was the argument? I'm just saying if anybody tries to argue with me, so the conversation was about John Cena being called the GOAT.

Speaker 3: 22:59

Oh, yeah and I felt like that's not a fair title for him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and I felt like, yeah, I felt like that's not a fair title for him. I was doing the same shit he's only done one company.

Speaker 2: 23:15

Now what I don't think him being in one company denounces his goat heritage of sorts, because technically WWE is like the best of the best.

Speaker 1: 23:30

So if you.

Speaker 2: 23:30

But even then, even if you didn't like, like what outside of him not being in this, being only in one company, was there any other thing against him in that particular regard?

Speaker 3: 23:45

about him, I just think that, if you're going to have that moniker, it'd be something like possibly AJ Styles could have that, since he's won every title in every company he's been in.

Speaker 1: 23:55

But he is, he's one of them, yeah.

Speaker 3: 24:00

But I think if you're going to get that moniker, you should be able to prove that in multiple places instead of just one.

Speaker 2: 24:07

I mean, that's fair. I can kind of see where you're coming from and whatnot. But I also would say the fact that because he is in the goat of companies kind of thing, whether if he did go somewhere else or not, he doesn't. I don't think he necessarily has to.

Speaker 1: 24:29

I think we also got to contribute some of the things he's done, if not just for the company but then also outside of the company too. Like you know, his make a wish, contributes and all that kind of stuff and you kind of almost being a better role model than fucking Hulk Hogan.

Speaker 2: 24:46

See, well, I mean that does go into it, but it's like whenever I'm thinking of just because he started in the Marine does not make him a real American hero.

Speaker 1: 24:55

First off, first off. He's peacemaker.

Speaker 2: 24:58

Now story and that is his and that's his. He is peacemaker now.

Speaker 2: 25:03

Story coming in here for next in disrespect, oh my God. No, what I was going to say is, like I myself when it comes to the whole greatest of all time thing now I will say the way that it's passed around so freely, I feel is a little extra. But when it comes to John Cena because whenever I think of someone who's like the greatest of all time I mostly think about I don't really think about what they did outside, I think about their in-ring work and stuff like that. You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying Because you know what their in-ring work, how interesting they were to me. The stuff this goat title of sorts, you know, I would say like stone cold or the undertaker so you already.

Speaker 1: 26:15

So we mentioned that too. And the thing about what I said with uh taker is he's like he's not the greatest of all time, he's. The phenom and theom to me is his own category of greatest of all time to me. No, I mean, that's what I'm just saying, instead of saying we're not going to go around saying the greatest of all time coming out to the ring is Undertaker, right? You know what I'm saying? The phenom to me echoes something like that. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2: 26:43

I'm well, but the phenom in in correlation with being a goat. Now, of course, right now I I have to look it up, but it's like the phenom is more so a presence that he has about himself, kind of thing. Now, because I don't think him being a, him being a phenom, versus him being the greatest of all time, or one of, as they say. It's like I don't think those two really have any way, because him being the phenom, I think more so has the deal do with his aura, his Undertaker aura, as being the dead man. But I also, at that point, would have to, because one of those things where you throw around these terms, I'm like wait a second, hold up, but what is the definition.

Speaker 1: 27:35

But here's the thing. Even with that too, you know what I'm saying. As the phenom, only somebody of his caliber has had multiple WrestleMania wins and a legacy that kind of connects to it. So it's like where the goat is thrown around frequently. Nobody else can call themselves the fucking phenom, but Ty's taker.

Speaker 3: 27:56

You also realize that he has been both taking a few wins of all time.

Speaker 1: 28:01

Yeah with Taker yeah 107. Yeah, 107. Yeah, yeah, taker, yeah 107. Yeah, 107, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 28:06

So just to put some definitions to it here, the definition of a phenom is a person who is outstandingly talented or admired, specifically in up-and-comer, specifically in up and comer. That is what the word phenom means, kind of thing. Now I'm gonna double check here to see the urban dictionary definition. That's a good question, cause that is the Oxford. Let me see here so which you know being a phenom? Well, the Urban Dictionary out here is like to be phenomenal at something, or to be a person of certain great quality that just can't be described.

Speaker 1: 29:06

Stop being giddy about some shit Bro this motherfucker.

Speaker 3: 29:09

I'm thinking of something else. I'm thinking of that thing.

Speaker 2: 29:14

But with this other description is what I think more so fits the Undertaker bit because it says God damn it, why is my oh, because my phone's on low battery but it Hold on the phone, cooperate brother. Taker bit because it says god damn it, why is my oh, because my phone's on low battery but uh it uh phone, cooperate brother, please, which, funny enough, I actually have undertaker on my background. But uh, it is uh. It says uh, to be phenomenal at something or to be a person of certain greatness or of certain great qualities that just can't be described. And when you think about back when he was more often called the Phenom you know this was during his Prince of Darkness days and all this other stuff and when he had his creatures of the night that Jeff Hardy stole and everything. So it's like him being a phenom more so is just Undertaker's particular presence as opposed of the goat status type thing. Now one thing I will say, because everyone will say this person is one of the greatest of all times. I think I do have a slight issue when people are saying where this one is one of the greatest all times, but john cena is the greatest of all time, then I'm a little like, but I also respect his goaded you know status.

Speaker 2: 30:49

Status because, for all intensive purposes, when it comes to who has held a particular spot in such a light, there's hulk hogan, and the direct next jump from Hulk Hogan is John Cena. The Rock wasn't around long enough to truly be the Hulk Hogan per se. Stone Cold, steve Austin, wasn't around long enough to really be the Hulk Hogan, so to say, to hit all of the bells and whistles and even and even with that, both of them, the type of personalities and the peoples that they were, did not fit that hulk hogan type star status. The only person who has fit that shoe and put it on and walked in it very properly is indeed john cena. It is because of that and, dare we say, probably better with less you know disgusting baggage behind him. Yeah, but it's like. That's why I'm like hokogin, not hokogin cena. I will allow this, this goat status, to be brought and donned upon you. However, for all intents and purposes, there are much greater, better wrestlers out there than.

Speaker 2: 32:10

John.

Speaker 1: 32:11

Cena. Yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 3: 32:12

A lot better than John Cena.

Speaker 1: 32:14

Yeah, yeah. Anyway, to get back into the tag team, the match was annoying because, again, I was worried about them trying to break up the Street Profits and looking at this moment as them having back and forth with each other as the ascension to it, and I was like, fuck, no, don't do that. Um, why does jd look like midian?

Speaker 3: 32:36

did you hear that chant they had going? Was it during smackdown or like a recent page review? About his big head who um jd?

Speaker 1: 32:45

yeah, bro, that's huge. You gotta say he's, he literally looks like I was chanting this wait, jd was I not jd um the. What's his name? Um dex, the not joe uh, gacy, there you go where is he? From he's. He used to be an xt.

Speaker 2: 33:04

Oh, you're talking about like, like, like. Where was he born and raised? No, like what city? Gacy, there you go. Where is he from?

Speaker 1: 33:08

He used to be in NXT, oh you're talking about, like, where was he born and raised? No, where was he from before he got into the White City? Yeah, because I don't know who the hell he is. Oh yeah, he was an NXT guy. He was an NXT guy.

Speaker 2: 33:15

He was an NXT and, if I'm not mistaken, he was originally lumped up with, thinking he was originally lumped up with because he was part of like this little group that was kind of like this little outcast kind of group that the Rock and Order was also a part of at the time.

Speaker 1: 33:36

Oh, but not Retribution.

Speaker 2: 33:40

No, no, no, no, no. No. This was way before that, but he was part of that. And then he was just kind of like for a while he was kind of like this lost crazy dude for a good minute because he was in a tag team with somebody else whose name like their names are completely blanking on me right now, they're not that much important, but it's like he was in a tag team and then he was gone for a minute but when he came back, he kind of feudal with the guy he was with the tag team with and then he's kind of well, he kind of disappeared. But in the process of him disappearing what he looks like and the way he's acting right now he was already there and so the Wyatt family just all like, hey, he already crazy, we'll take him Right.

Speaker 1: 34:27

Either way, match was boring, to say the least. It was. It was okay in some areas, but it was kind of like why did we do this tournament only for the street profits to lose? Why?

Speaker 2: 34:42

well, I wouldn't even. That's not the problem. Well, the problem is is just the fact that, like, the story in itself was not strong that's what I'm saying as far as the and then, on top of that, the prophets did not. They did not perform in the way that they usually would like they. This was, they were, they just this was like all right. Another day at the office, another day, just click, clang, boom and then that's it type situation. And I don't know if maybe it's just because of the fact that they don't know how to combat against the Wyatts, or maybe the Dexter Loomis and Joe Gacy they didn't want the smoke, maybe they're ass competitors in the ring, I don't know, excuse me. Maybe it's the fact that, coming off of the whole big roman reign bit like so much had just happened and everyone was like oh and ood and odd, where this match just did not have the energy it needed to follow that up, because that very well could have been the situation. But it's probably a good combination of all those things, to be honest.

Speaker 1: 35:53

So, overall, it sounds like the match was ass for you. I wouldn't say it was ass. It's probably a good combination of all those things, to be honest. So overall, it sounds like the match was ass. For you, I wouldn't say it was ass.

Speaker 2: 35:59

It's just like following up the match that it was, it didn't make me any more hype kind of thing. Like if that would have been the opening match and then we got Roman Reigns' match kind of thing, and then we got Roman Reigns' match kind of thing, in terms of hype or how like the excitement levels would have went, maybe it would have been a little bit better. But like I just feel as if they just kind of had a little, they just had a meh match.

Speaker 3: 36:27

You know what I'm saying Okay, you're not wrong, it was a mid-match.

Speaker 1: 36:34

Yeah, it was mid.

Speaker 3: 36:35

I felt just thrown in there.

Speaker 1: 36:39

It really was. That's what I'm saying. That whole tournament to me, was for nothing. There wasn't enough build-up behind that. It was just like okay, we had a tournament, boom Day one, it's over.

Speaker 2: 36:50

Yeah, there is that bit. That's what I'm saying. I mean, SmackDown in itself has just been very ass. At least for the last month, SmackDown has been some of the most snooze-worthy who-cares-what's-going-on stuff.

Speaker 1: 37:16

You pretty much watch it because it's routine at this point.

Speaker 2: 37:19

And even then, because I usually don't watch it, I'm out, I'm over here, I'm like you know what? I'll just watch, I'll just listen to what the people on, I'll just listen to what the other podcasts have to say about on Spouse Smackdown. That's how I've been doing.

Speaker 1: 37:36

See, sometimes I want WrestleTalk to. I want their podcast episodes, but I want them to do their quick breakdown, because I wake up to the morning to watch those. It's like I start my morning off literally just watching a video and whenever you give me a full podcast, like no, I don't want that. Right now, I want the clip you talk about what happened. Then give me the podcast. But that's just me. That's me being picky as to content.

Speaker 3: 37:57

I do that with Jim Cornette.

Speaker 1: 38:00

I like Jim Cornette's clips. I like watching, listen to his whole pod. It's just like it's interesting though it is.

Speaker 3: 38:07

It is, but I like his clips whether it's to drive you through the experience, depending on which one it is. It's actually really interesting because he goes through a lot of the history of wrestling and some real deep shit in some of it.

Speaker 2: 38:20

That's what I'd be doing when I watch SmackDown.

Speaker 1: 38:23

But so, literally, me and Swag have literally been messing with each other and we've been using the Shaq meme I'm going to put it on the screen right now but we've been using the Shaq Yo you killed me the other night.

Speaker 2: 38:36

It was like you throw that, watch it smack down. I lost it, bro, I lost it.

Speaker 1: 38:44

That's how I was feeling dog. It's been rough, but not just.

Speaker 2: 38:47

SmackDown, Everything has been like ugh. But going back to the pay-per-view this match Like. But going back to the pay-per-view, this match, oh you're talking about that match in general. Well, oh, no, no, no, no, we can get it if we go to the next match, because it was no better.

Speaker 3: 39:05

It was a.

Speaker 1: 39:08

C Okay, you're talking about Becky and Nikki, Becky and Nikki. That match was uh, that match was.

Speaker 2: 39:15

I'll be honest I spent most of this match driving on the highway no, we're talking.

Speaker 1: 39:20

We're talking about the Becky match most of that actually.

Speaker 2: 39:24

No, I take that back. I wasn't even on the highway at that point, cause the match was so quick yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1: 39:30

It was a match. And then the way she won it was the same equivalent of me when I was on the plane ride and I'm watching Forbidden Door. And then the way she won it was the same equivalent of me when I was on the plane ride and I'm watching Forbidden Door. And then when Zack Sabre Jr and Nigel McGuinness did that weird pin out of nowhere, I just turned my head for two seconds what the fuck?

Speaker 2: 39:49

what did I just miss that boring ass match?

Speaker 3: 39:52

wait, what did they name her fucking?

Speaker 1: 39:54

pin maneuver, the Becky lock or some shit. The becky pin. That's what he said. I don't know it was. Yeah, he did say some dumb shit.

Speaker 2: 40:03

Yeah, because she's been doing that as like a pin hackling no it's like yeah, he did say so, like the becky, the becky something his best one yet was a black roll.

Speaker 3: 40:14

Slam yeah For Jelly Roll.

Speaker 2: 40:18

That black roll slam did have me dying.

Speaker 3: 40:21

It was solid.

Speaker 2: 40:22

Yeah, it was.

Speaker 1: 40:25

We laughed. But Jelly Roll did his thing, but this match wasn't solid Anyway, so swag your opinions on the match.

Speaker 2: 40:34

This was the only match. Remember back when you used to, you know, go to the bathroom during the women's match. Oh man, like it reminded me of those days a little bit. I didn't go to the bathroom during the match, but I was. I wasn't watching it that way, and this has come from someone who used to be a Bella stan. I loved the Bella twins. All right, you could look, but you can't touch. I was dreaming on the stars above. I loved me some Bellas. All right, I'm just saying I was super big on the Bellas. Even after they stopped looking like each other and whatnot, I still fucked with the bellas at that time. But it's like number one.

Speaker 2: 41:27

I don't know why they keep trying to like push this narrative that that nikki is such a pioneer in and they're like they're making her so goaded as a female talent when it's like she was good and she had a good stint where she was better than what she was originally as a Bella twin, because originally the Bellas were just really eye candy, they were diva divas and I give them the twin magic and all that good stuff. But then, you know, when one got the boob implants and started training with her ex-husband and whatnot, and the other one got her own theme song and started going Bremo, bremo. That was when they were like that was when I was very proud of them because at least they could hold a relatively decent match and not look too bad. And then when she was going, when she was doing her whole you know schtick and you know like running around with Yves Marie and stuff, when nikki was doing all that, like that was peak her.

Speaker 2: 42:40

You know what I'm saying. She was good, but like I don't think, like I feel as if they're like trying to say that she is the one who did all of this and we're trying to cover up the fact when really this was, that was AJ Lee, that was Paige you know what I'm saying. That was Sasha Banks and Charlotte and all that like they, that they're the ones who got everything to where it is right now. But, even more specifically, aj Lee and Paige are the ones that kind of sort of built the bridge that got the ladies over into wrestling place. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1: 43:23

AJ Lee, aj Lee and Paige ran, so Nikki can walk. I guess, no, excuse me, opposite.

Speaker 2: 43:33

They walked so she could run, or whatever the fuck it was that saying is I mean right now, the way they're making she could run to wherever the fuck it was that saying is I mean right now, the way they're making it seem is AJ, lee and Paige laid on, laid down and hold each other's legs to build the bridge so that she could walk on top of them and take all the credit. Yeah, that's what it feels like right now. Yeah, not taking anything away from her, because for all intents and purposes, I would lump her in that bit Because during that time she was wrestling a whole lot better than what she was doing prior, because she started taking it more serious and training a bit more.

Speaker 2: 44:08

But it's like, at the same time, though, this forced goat feeding that's been going on, like I need it to stop. Like, granted, when they was first doing it with John Cena, sure, I guess we could call him that, but when we started putting it as interesting, I'm like, okay, you're doing a lot, coming out to the ring ring, the greatest of all time, giancino. No, no, no, no, no, take that out of there, stop it. What are you doing? Like, why don't force it down our throats? Let us come out and say, yeah, he really is.

Speaker 2: 44:55

They're brainwashing y'all to to put him as the goat, as opposed to saying you know this person, one of the greatest of all times. Triple h, one of the greatest of all times. Bobby lashley, one of the greatest of all times at least he will be, I personally believe. But like you know that all these one of the greatest, but y'all seen her. We're gonna force feed this greatest. Leave the one of just the greatest, this Nikki Bella, this legend, nikki Bella, force feeding. Come on, guys, what are we doing? What are we doing? What?

Speaker 1: 45:37

are we doing so? He didn't like the match.

Speaker 3: 45:41

I thought it was a house match.

Speaker 1: 45:43

Damn, I really felt that way too.

Speaker 2: 45:46

I really felt that way, and then we got bitch ass Becky Lynch out here.

Speaker 3: 45:51

Flat chest backs.

Speaker 1: 45:53

Wow, I don't know man, that's a wild statement bro. Flat chest backs? Wow, I don't know man, that's a wild statement bro.

Speaker 2: 45:58

Flat chest backs or no ass lynch. No, no, no, no, no, yes, yes, the man body, becky, I'm alright, let me, let me.

Speaker 3: 46:15

She truly is the man body, that key alright, I mean, let me. She truly is the man anyway, what's she packing?

Speaker 1: 46:21

god damn man, she might have one of them.

Speaker 3: 46:25

Sleeper builds bro you never know, she might have a sleeper build with Steph Rollins in her wardrobe.

Speaker 1: 46:30

A sleeper build you know, you know what I'm saying when you, when you you get her alone, brother, and all of a sudden, bam. I'm not, I'm not trying to defend her. I'm just saying those situations where it don't they don't really wear a lot of clothes that flaunt that, but then when you get them behind closed doors, it's like okay, what are you trying to say?

Speaker 2: 46:46

she walking out there with a double compressed top on so that whenever behind closed doors she takes it off and those A cups become D's. Is that what you're trying to say?

Speaker 3: 46:57

That might be possible with the fact that you know, seth Rollins is taking all of his clothes from her wardrobe for all of his entrances.

Speaker 1: 47:05

Anyway, give me your opinions on the fucking match. Please, God damn. Give me your opinions on the match, man.

Speaker 3: 47:13

It was a house match.

Speaker 2: 47:15

See, the problem is I was about to say it's just another Becky Lynch match, but it wasn't because it was a house match.

Speaker 1: 47:25

Alright, so it was a house match.

Speaker 2: 47:28

It wasn't good. It wasn't good, it wasn't great. Not only was it not good nor great, but it was also very predictable like it's not nothing has happened.

Speaker 2: 47:40

Storyline wise, to make me be all like, nikki might take this nikki, nikki might come out with on top with this. No, no, not, not, not. This was about as predictable as the fact that Zack Sabre Jr was going to lose to Nigel McGuinness. It was about that as that believable. If you believed that Nigel was going to walk out of there with the dub and the belt over Zack Sabre Jr, you're the problem with the wrestling community and wrestling in general. Over Zack Sabre Jr. You're the problem with the wrestling community.

Speaker 1: 48:18

And wrestling in general. You are a heel, john Cena. You are ruining wrestling, but we got the next match. We got the next match with Rusev versus Sheamus Good, old-fashioned Donnybrook.

Speaker 2: 48:36

This was great for me. Yeah, this was like the turning point of the pay-per-view, or at least what it felt like.

Speaker 1: 48:42

Okay, okay.

Speaker 2: 48:43

When this match happened, they delivered and, unlike the previous matches, not With the very first match as the exception, but the other two, these, yeah, this match had enough story and enough to make me believe, because I thought Sheamus was taking this.

Speaker 1: 49:07

Yeah, no, no. I felt like Rusev was going to take it because he needed to, so I will agree with the fact that he definitely needed the W.

Speaker 2: 49:16

However, but like looking at it plainly, like looking at how everything has kind of happened, the way stuff was stacked, I was like Sheamus is about to beat this man, and the way the match went had me thinking Sheamus might actually come out on top. When he hit him with that bro kick, I thought it was done. Yeah, I ain't gonna lie, I was like that was a mean bro King Boy, it was solid, mean. But Rusev taking this win. The only thing I worry about is how is this gonna progress for Rusev? Because I will say, if Rusev can continue on doing something good and being amazing and you, you know, doing whatever like what Rusev needs to do now, now that he has had this match, he has beaten Sheamus and now, finally, after damn near two, three months, rusev is, for all intents and purposes, kinda gotten over a little bit, because he was kinda kinda stale and no one gave a fuck for a good minute. But after Sheamus did all of this, I need Rusev to go. So, number one, I need AJ Styles to beat Dom. That's the first thing I need to have happen. And then, after AJ Styles beats Dom, I need Rusev to beat AJ Styles the belt Well, not for the belt tomorrow night, but just in general. I need him to come out there, beat up AJ Styles, lock him in the accolade and then we just move forward with that story, because I need Rusev now.

Speaker 2: 50:54

Rusev needs to get. Rusev needs to chase something. Rusev needs to get. Rusev needs to chase something. Rusev needs to beat something up. And Rusev needs some kind of story, because when he first showed up his little you know the little speech that he gave and all this other stuff about what he wants to do and what he's thinking about being, and all this other stuff it was all mighty fine, but it wasn't going anywhere and nobody cared. And so now that he's had this long, drawn-out slobber-knocking of a brawl with Sheamus and stuff like that, I need him to be done with Sheamus and I need him to move on to being in a title picture and since he's on Raw, it needs to be with what's going on with AJ Styles and Dom. It wouldn't make sense Now unless he was going to go after Dom, but I feel as if Dom's going to drop the title.

Speaker 1: 51:44

I feel like he's going after well, it's Rusev on Raw right. You say he's on Raw right.

Speaker 3: 51:48

Yes.

Speaker 1: 51:48

Okay, so damn. I would say. The only person I feel like would have been really a good storyline to go against was him and Sami. That I feel like would have been really a good storyline to go against was him and Sammy.

Speaker 2: 51:55

And Sammy is the United States champion on.

Speaker 1: 51:57

SmackDown, that's what I'm saying, like that would have been ideal to me, and he's also way too neck deep in NFT stuff, yeah, but I'm just saying like, if you're talking about people, to put him up against, to keep giving him that.

Speaker 2: 52:10

Oh his.

Speaker 1: 52:10

NFTs.

Speaker 2: 52:13

The small ones, the my Family Tree. Oh, the the small ones, the my my family tree. Oh, a solo, yeah, okay.

Speaker 3: 52:18

I heard NFTs. I'm like what?

Speaker 1: 52:20

that's what I first thought about when I heard it. I was like he called him shit NFTs. That's what caught me off guard for a second. Yeah, cause that's a, that's a thing.

Speaker 2: 52:27

So usually, when I refer to them, I purposely call them NFTs okay, so sometimes I actually NFTs. Okay, Actually, nowadays I flip-flop between the two. I mean, whenever I say it, people understand me if they know wrestling the NFTs.

Speaker 1: 52:45

But I will also agree with Swag on this match. This match was really good. I had a fun time. At first it seemed like it was real stale, but then it started picking up, picking up and then the spot off the barrels was really cool on the Slim Jim tables, which again made sense. They both snapped into the Slim Jim Snapped into it.

Speaker 1: 53:05

But the bro kick did throw me off because I thought, boom, okay, that's how you end the match. No, that's not fun, because I really felt like if this was a false count anywhere kind of match and he would have did the white noise, that would have been the perfect way to end the match. I felt like that wasn't perfect. But then to him going to ring and to do the bro kick, so the build up from there made more sense. But for Russo to come back, he used Shillelagh to get the accolade Game over.

Speaker 2: 53:35

You know what was crazy? There's no blood, not a drop holy shit crazy right, all those weapons.

Speaker 3: 53:47

I know they needed a plumber no blood story of Wichita on the match man.

Speaker 1: 53:54

God damn it. It was the best one of the night so far I'll give them that you know what? One thing I forgot us to do is rank the last couple of matches. Once you finish, you're gonna rank the matches real quick.

Speaker 3: 54:10

You know, I tried that with the tag match and you're like oh, we're talking about the Nikki match, didn't I? I said it's C I didn't realize that C Okay.

Speaker 1: 54:21

C but wait, wait, you don't really have a minus in the Sonic it's E-D-C-, b-a, damn, there ain't no F, it's E.

Speaker 2: 54:33

Yeah, E is the lowest rank.

Speaker 1: 54:35

Yeah, E is the lowest rank. I'll give him a D a D okay tag match which I agree Nikki Bella and Becky D C. Honestly, I'll almost give it an E. The ending makes it an E okay, I agree with that.

Speaker 3: 54:53

The way it ended made it an E that Beckx pen or whatever he called it. It was the crucifix into a backslide.

Speaker 1: 55:04

I like how she's doing it. It kind of feels like it almost wants to be like an MMA Jiu Jitsu type of thing, like she just kind of comes up and it cuffs you. But like whoever takes it depending on who's doing it makes it look good, Like Valkyria. When she was doing Valkyria, Valkyria made it look good, but when Bella did it it just looked like a flop of a pin.

Speaker 2: 55:25

You know what? Yeah, you're right, this was an E. You know what would have been better If we would have had Stephanie Falk here on this page? You know who was supposed to be on this pay-per-view? My true reason for wanting to watch this pay-per-view was to watch her in my dreams become the women's champion, because I know she wasn't going to win the belt tonight if she was going to be here. But instead, no, I didn't get any of her At all, not even a backstage segment of like.

Speaker 1: 55:54

We know you're supposed to be here. What the fuck is she doing right now, bro?

Speaker 3: 55:56

You know what we did get, though, what we got Becky Lynch getting a new job title later on in pay-per-view.

Speaker 2: 56:03

Ugh, listen. Oh, and that's a good question, because she's been MIA doing nothing for the last four weeks.

Speaker 2: 56:14

Yeah, almost a month now. She won the thing. And then her Nikki Bella Brie no, I'm sorry, no, it was like her, nikki Bella, goddamn, eo and Rhea fought the Secret Harvest and that was the last time she was seen. And then, four weeks later, you still don't see her. But until you don't see her, until damn near like what was it that Monday? And she's all like hey, so like what the fuck is going on with my title match? And he's like I hear you, I hear you and I know that you're supposed to have a title match.

Speaker 1: 56:49

Wait, that was Jade, wasn't it? No, oh, okay, so they did the same thing with Jade too, okay, yeah, I don't give a fuck about. Jade, I'm staying in the same situation.

Speaker 2: 56:58

So I was like she Damn nigga, listen, that's not, she lost. She out here trying to make excuses about like if I went for this or this I would've went. No, you lost. Jade Back of the line. End of discussion. Back to Stephanie Valkyr. Okay, so she's like where's my title match? And Homie's like I hear you, I know what you're saying, but I need another week to figure out what to do. Until then, you're still the number one contender, but like I can't have, we're not, we can't have the match on the pay-per-view. So Static Valkyrie is somewhere back home chilling right now, probably waiting for this podcast. I wish.

Speaker 2: 57:51

I don't know, she definitely won't like me about all this foolishness while they still over there, probably getting ready to take their red eyes back over here to actually no, cause they still got raw next week. So maybe she is over there in the hotel chilling because she got no business being there. Stephanie is so underused and misused kind of like Eos cause she's also underused and misused kind of like Eos because she's also underused and misused that I will agree that's a different topic for another day, but 100%.

Speaker 1: 58:23

So it's a, c, d, e, and then now we're on the Rusev and that's a solid B. I will. I will agree it was a B out of all the matches tonight. I will agree it was a B Out of all the matches tonight. I will agree that it's a B.

Speaker 3: 58:39

But, like you said, the bar is not set that high. See, yes, that's exactly that's exactly what I was going to say. All right, If we're comparing it to everything that happened tonight yeah, very much a B.

Speaker 2: 58:51

Yeah, very much a B. But if I'm holding my standards across the board, I will give them a C at best. Damn, okay, because it was just a good match. That's it. That was all I was going to say he's anticipating. You saw how he was, that's it. That was all I was going to say. He's like all anticipating. You saw how he was. That's how I feel about the match. It was a good match.

Speaker 1: 59:24

I'm waiting for the rest to come after it doesn't come so edging it all night anyway, straight edging it Anyway, straight edge in it. And then we got the John Chain on that. Well, no, you didn't give your opinion as well. Sword.

Speaker 3: 59:46

I didn't. I gave it to B.

Speaker 1: 59:48

I gave it to B but I want your opinions on the match in general.

Speaker 3: 59:51

It was a solid match. Okay For what it was. No one got hurt like the last Donnybrook match. What was the last one? The last one was when Big E got his neck fucking broke.

Speaker 1: 1:00:02

Is that really yeah?

Speaker 3: 1:00:03

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:00:03

Okay, yeah, that's probably personal for Big E to watch that too a little bit.

Speaker 3: 1:00:07

So that's why, for being a Donnybrook match, it was a good match. It was solid, it was pretty clean. Yeah, I know it was solid.

Speaker 2: 1:00:15

It was pretty clean. Yeah, no, and they and they. Anytime these two kind of fight, and or at least anytime these two fight each other, I feel as if number one. This is like the first time the crowd was really actually into it, because for some reason the crowds have been really weird about these two fighting, because, like anytime they fought as seamus would say, banger after banger after banger like I always thought their matches were good leading up to this. So it's like where sometimes you'll be, you'll listen to the match and like you hear people in the background.

Speaker 2: 1:00:44

It's just crickets and I'm just like like an AEW pay-per-view see, I would damn outside of the arena, yes, but ah, because the aw crowds, they're, they're, they're like, they're the ones that will gaslight. You know what I'm saying? They just it could be ass, but they're gonna, they're gonna cheer for it because they have to or they're gonna, they're gonna.

Speaker 1: 1:01:15

You know how the Jojo's communities like watch Jojo's bro slow down now because I'm part of that. No, no, I'm just saying y'all, y'all love telling people to watch Jojo's, and that is Jojo's is not air for everybody, which I will. I will agree with that piece. I will.

Speaker 2: 1:01:31

I will agree with that particular thing, cuz like as as a person who absolutely loves him, some god damn Jojo, I also, I'm sorry, am very yes no, he's right.

Speaker 1: 1:01:45

No, he's right, both of y'all alright, he's right.

Speaker 2: 1:01:51

I'm sorry if y'all just don't understand great cinema, so I would rather watch Ghost.

Speaker 3: 1:01:56

Detective.

Speaker 1: 1:01:58

Ghost Stories.

Speaker 2: 1:01:59

English dub, for fuck's sake, than watch Jojo see, I said that's a different kind of entertainment, though I don't know what you're going.

Speaker 1: 1:02:08

I'm actually entertained wow, let's move and save this for after the pod yes, because now I need to know.

Speaker 2: 1:02:18

What is it about, jojo, that you don't like? I can understand if my anime is not for it, or, you know, after the pod, because both of you out here again, you gotta keep on. I'm not gonna allow y'all to just be unchecked. You know what I'm saying, with me sitting here a full JoJo stand trying to you know. But then we out here, we out here making piece of coffee.

Speaker 1: 1:02:49

I didn't even say that, but I just said yeah, I mean, I'm just a fan.

Speaker 2: 1:02:53

You didn't say it, I agree, thank you, no, no, no, no. Yeah, I mean, I'm just a fan, no, you didn't say it.

Speaker 1: 1:02:59

I agree, thank you, it wasn't as harsh though my shit wasn't as harsh like he was, like it might as well be wow this is the.

Speaker 2: 1:03:07

RJ situation all over again. He's the one out here throwing the hits and you said yeah, get your receipt.

Speaker 1: 1:03:12

Get your receipt, bruv anyway anyway, john Cena vs Logan Paul.

Speaker 2: 1:03:18

John Cena. John Cena, this match was okay. It was a slow burn, but like you know, John.

Speaker 1: 1:03:26

Cena A lot of Cena's matches have been that way right.

Speaker 3: 1:03:27

It's a slow burn with about 50 different finishers.

Speaker 2: 1:03:31

Well see, there's a difference between John Cena's first matches. They were slow burns that led into shit. His last match wasn't really a slow burn, in my opinion. His last match was up to speed and it ended with some coolness. This one, it was a slow burn. Yes, it did end up with a bunch of weird finishes, but you know how it works. I'm not even saying just finishes.

Speaker 3: 1:04:01

I'm saying the amount of finishers I have seen that those two used tonight was ridiculous.

Speaker 2: 1:04:08

But you know how it says in the books. Actually, I think the books have been rewritten a little bit, because in asterisks I think it now says unless you're doing the AA, when you do somebody else's finishing move, it's never as strong as doing your own.

Speaker 3: 1:04:27

Yes, fair enough.

Speaker 2: 1:04:31

And I say unless it's the AA, because John Cena's attitude adjustment doesn't do anything anymore.

Speaker 1: 1:04:37

No it doesn't.

Speaker 3: 1:04:39

You didn't see when it was the FU it did.

Speaker 1: 1:04:42

Bro, because he was picking up big motherfuckers. That's why.

Speaker 2: 1:04:50

No, that's not, why it's not.

Speaker 1: 1:04:53

Okay, okay, it's not exactly why it was. More devastating is when he started doing the FU, he was doing it to people like Show, brock you know what I'm saying Taker and shit. So I feel like he had a lot more weight when he was doing it, especially in the game. I'm going to fucking toss him to bitches.

Speaker 2: 1:05:11

I mean, I guess I mean sure, and those people that he used to do it on didn't kick out at two.

Speaker 1: 1:05:17

No, but now he has to do it like a thousand times. They also understand about protecting a move. Those people.

Speaker 2: 1:05:26

Yeah, no one knows how to protect a move these days and honestly, that leads into something that we also did start talking about the fact of you, you know, doing all of these moves and these kicking out at two. You know it's like man, nothing puts anyone down anymore. Remember when the tombstone? No one kicked the ass of that bitch, you know what I'm saying. Like, remember when a proper powerbomb was done by somebody and they out for the rest of the season. You know what I'm saying. Boy the pedigree was actually devastating.

Speaker 1: 1:06:03

Bro the pedigree. Anytime it was done, that was the end of the match Most of the time yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:06:08

Used to be Unless you had that champion's resiliency.

Speaker 1: 1:06:14

Or a big match. Feel like a Mania match or something like that. What?

Speaker 2: 1:06:17

are those.

Speaker 1: 1:06:20

It's one of the things, like I said before, about certain moves not being as strong as they are, and I even think I said this a while back. I was like Cody Rhodes whatever he does, one crossroads, it's a signature. Whatever he does, two, okay, that's a finisher. Whenever he does three, it's the super finisher on tape, which I hate you got all three finishers yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:06:46

And then, if he does and then two, if he does the first one, he kicks out at one. If he does two, he kicks out at two. Three is when he gets the three count.

Speaker 2: 1:06:55

Which it shouldn't be that way, it's really bad shouldn't be it's.

Speaker 3: 1:06:59

It's, it means your move is ass but I will say this though I may hate aw most of the shit they do because it's ass half the time, I can give them this hey, man, there's a much better buckshot than fucking logan paul this is his fucking move. You should have seen it during this match, it was so bad.

Speaker 2: 1:07:19

This particular time he screwed it up. Usually there was a couple of times where you know Logan Paul's buckshot lariat, was looking kind of nice. He's just screwed it up this particular one. Usually his buckshot's not that bad.

Speaker 3: 1:07:35

He flips, lands, stops, sets himself and then runs.

Speaker 2: 1:07:39

Like I said, he botched this one.

Speaker 3: 1:07:43

Horribly.

Speaker 2: 1:07:44

He definitely botched this one Other times. You know his buckshot. Be on point.

Speaker 1: 1:07:48

Overall, though, match-wise, what would you guys rank it?

Speaker 3: 1:07:55

are we staying at the bar level or a normal bar bar level be a b I'll call you like it is.

Speaker 2: 1:08:02

This is this was a c match at best, like logan paul was okay. But you know what was the other bit to this whole situation? What? No one fucking asked for this. No, this is john cena's last run. All right, I mean, unless this is just because we needed john cena get his lick back with paul with with logan paul from the time that they teamed up with each other or from smackdown, like past week well, I'm talking about, like, because the only reason why this was really going on is because logan paul is all like john cena.

Speaker 2: 1:08:38

What happened? Like? You were so cool a couple, a month or two ago when we teamed up, and now you just switched up on us. Now you're lame and all this other stuff, and so this is literally just stemming off from when they did that tag team. That we also didn't ask for, by the way. That was completely, completely no, we did. John Cena has wasted so much time on this retirement tour doing jack, shit, bullshit, nothing, and it kills me. Inside there are so many people who he could have been fighting right now and it's like, instead, all I got was Cody Rhodes, twicehodes, twice randy orton and cm punk, and then now logan paul yo, that is a shit, fucking run when you look at this how many, how many days did he say he had how many?

Speaker 1: 1:09:34

he has only seven.

Speaker 2: 1:09:35

Yes, originally okay yeah, he has 8 left. Originally he started with like 130 something or whatever 130 something appearances and we got all these 4 matches was that including a tag team match.

Speaker 2: 1:09:52

I was not. I didn't include that. So I guess you could say the tag team match fighting against one of the people who he didn't include that. So I guess you could say the tag team match Fighting against one of the people who we. So he fought Cody Rhodes three times, yeah, with the addition of Jey Uso, yeah, which also we didn't ask for. Yes, it's like so, five matches. But of those five matches he's fought the same exact people who was in those same fucking matches, and it's like there are some. He could have fought someone just a random SmackDown, had a quick squash match with somebody, or a quick match with someone that at least went to commercial break one time. You know what I'm saying. He could have fought Austin Theory. Austin Theory never got his lick back.

Speaker 1: 1:10:37

Hey, austin, theory gone.

Speaker 2: 1:10:40

He's apparently supposed to be hurt, but unless you've heard something else.

Speaker 1: 1:10:44

I heard he's on the alumni page, oh.

Speaker 3: 1:10:47

Well.

Speaker 1: 1:10:49

That's what I heard, either way.

Speaker 2: 1:10:52

Hell. He could have fought Karrion Kross or something Anybody.

Speaker 3: 1:10:55

Yeah, Karrion.

Speaker 1: 1:10:57

That would be over.

Speaker 2: 1:10:57

As you was noting, fought Karrion Kross Anybody, and then as you was noting about the fact that he was doing all these finishing moves in the conference, if you want to call it that or the post show, because it's not a post-media scrum, because there ain't no media scrum in anything.

Speaker 1: 1:11:13

It's just post show.

Speaker 2: 1:11:15

In the post show when they had John Cena come up. John Cena was saying the fact that he did those moves to pay homage to, I guess, the people who he couldn't fight, that he would have liked to have fought, and I'm like. So you said the end of days was done in that match. Yes, did you not see that? You said you end of days was done. Yes, did you not see that I might have you said you wanted to go against Baron Corbin, but it's like Baron Corbin's not even there. So I guess that makes sense why he couldn't do that match. Oh, you know. But then it's like he does the Styles class, so like it's not too late to fight AJ Styles. You got eight appearances. Why don't you squeeze it in there somewhere? You could squeeze it in prior it's of angels wings like it's.

Speaker 2: 1:12:06

It's in my mind wings again christopher daniels which definitely couldn't do. That he couldn't do, but but he's retired. But but for me, I'm just all. There were so many things, so many people that we could have done, but instead we're going to stick it out, which also something else that you was waiting for that didn't happen was where is Brock?

Speaker 1: 1:12:32

Yeah, your ass, your ass, thought you called when is he? There ain't nowhere to be found. I'm not surprised.

Speaker 3: 1:12:37

There is no Brock, there was no showing it always surprised me more because they brought up the fact of Brock on Smackdown 2 by the way, where's your mic?

Speaker 1: 1:12:45

you got it all the way at your foot. We can't catch your audio. I'm too tired.

Speaker 2: 1:12:49

I don't care he's catching it and so it's just like I don't there it's. I'll be glad when this is over At the end of the day. Now, because, like Sure Logan Paul, so athletic, blah, blah, blah, but why? I want John Cena fighting. I don't know anyone else that's going to be around here.

Speaker 1: 1:13:15

That's going to at least be around for a long time. Your final opinion on the match Shit going to be around here. That's going to at least be around for a long time. Your final opinion on the match Shit oh man, bitch, we ain't never getting that shit. We ain't never getting that shit.

Speaker 2: 1:13:26

Yeah, don't mind the shirt. I'm not wearing a shirt because I like it, not because I believe that the Rock's going to do anything.

Speaker 1: 1:13:33

No, he's not doing shit.

Speaker 2: 1:13:35

In a perfect world, the Rock would have been here, the heel turn would have been amazing, and then we could have indeed ended it where John Cena, being like you know what, this ain't the way I'm going to take my soul back from being sold, and then the Rock will, and then him and the Rock would have their things.

Speaker 1: 1:13:56

That they do the third one.

Speaker 2: 1:13:57

And then they can finally get that third match out of the way, and then John Cena could have won. Hip, hip, hooray. John Cena's good now. He slayed the big bad boss and you know, is that when we introduced Brock Lesnar. Either way, I feel like that would have been a nice way to ride off on the sunset.

Speaker 1: 1:14:17

I mean the sunset.

Speaker 2: 1:14:18

I mean that could work, but it's not and it won't. And who cares?

Speaker 1: 1:14:31

either way, a roundabout. I would say the match to see. I got a chance to watch on my phone while I was gone, but the match the match was definitely I match was a C. I got a chance to watch it on my phone when I was gone, but the match was definitely a. I'd say a C, 100% A C.

Speaker 2: 1:14:45

Yeah, I don't want to say D because it's definitely not that it's not a D, because the match was indeed a good match. It was entertaining, but it was just like. For me it's the equivalent of the Okada match. It was entertaining, but it was just like. For me it's the equivalent of the Okada match. Yes, okada and Swerve was a good match to watch, but we know Swerve wasn't going to lose.

Speaker 1: 1:15:10

Mm-hmm, I know you did. I came out of the room and I said yo did Cena win. You didn't say nothing, so I said so, paul. He said whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, wait, wait. Why did you think, paul, you was right the first time? Like what the fuck? Cena lose to Paul oh man, we got the Fatal 4-Way. Next we got Seth Rollins versus Jey Uso, LA Knight, and we also have CM Punk.

Speaker 3: 1:15:40

And the Ninja.

Speaker 1: 1:15:41

You said what? And the Ninja? Oh my god. Thoughts on this match. Matt, I'm going to let you go.

Speaker 3: 1:15:54

It was okay. It wasn't that grave a match. It was mid. It wasn't that great of a match it was mid. Honestly, what we're going to do? Fight in the crowd for 20 minutes and then come back and just do a few spots and call it a day.

Speaker 1: 1:16:11

I mean, that's really what it was A couple of super kicks. I did like the CM Punk kick in the beginning of the match. It very much resembled HBK Triple H versus Cena, but also, at the same time that's how you give a proper receipt I had to say my piece. That's how you give a proper receipt, bars.

Speaker 3: 1:16:43

Not attempted murder.

Speaker 1: 1:16:45

Bars, Swag your opinion on that.

Speaker 2: 1:16:55

So I'm trying to remember. There was a certain match that I watched that was it the triple threat? My whole thing was, I feel, ever since, damn, I think it was a triple threat. It was the women's triple threat match. I feel as if there is a way where these four-way matches can be done and they tried to achieve it in this, where they tried, but it was meh Whereas you can have all four of the people in the ring and they're all actively fighting each other type thing which I will say they did do and try to do a good job of that where, like, everyone is involved at all points and you don't have a whole bunch of throw this person outside of the ring, we go one-on-one.

Speaker 2: 1:17:54

Someone else comes in, throw that guy out the ring, we go one-on-one. So I'm glad they was able to get that into it. The story going into this match I it was was okay. However, I feel like it kind of got a little muddy towards the end on what they were trying to get across failed table spot and uh that was a tough table.

Speaker 1: 1:18:18

That was a tough table. Yeah, that was one of them, stiff Slim Jims, they'd be sitting in a car that's a stale one. They'd be sitting in a car. They'd be sitting in the car.

Speaker 3: 1:18:27

That stale one's been sitting in the shelf for too long, nope.

Speaker 2: 1:18:30

Gotta check the exploration data on these, slim Jim, I think. When it came to this match. For me, I think it's just the fact that the four people that we had are not people to have in this kind of match, I think that's why it wasn't. I think that's why it did not hit as good as I would have hoped it for, like, because I feel as if, like in that match, I feel like LA Knight got nothing.

Speaker 2: 1:19:07

He's been getting nothing, he was just there he hit his finisher what once like I feel like LA Knight really didn't get a whole bunch and really this match, the focus of this match, really is supposed to be CM Punk and Seth Rollins. And because this focus is supposed to be on CM Punk and Seth Rollins, jay is special. And because Jay is special and because jay is special, the person who gets completely undermined is la night, like towards the end of the match. La night was just sleeping outside of the ring the whole time he got put through day one.

Speaker 1: 1:19:53

That's it. Yeah, he jumped on the table. That was just. That was just the ending spot of the match. I was like when he was like all right, let me take it home, boys.

Speaker 2: 1:20:01

And so it's like the focus is all on CM Punk and Seth. Once again, jay, he's special because he's the yeet man. You got to get your yeet in. You know what I'm saying it, you know what I'm saying. So it's like for me, I'm like it's this was just a small bump, because, number one, nothing has happened to make me think that Seth Rollins wasn't going to win this match there's that there was nothing in the book that let you think that especially with the way that the last, the way Raw ended, where the competitors are all fighting and kicking each other and all this other stuff, it's like okay, well, I see where this is going.

Speaker 2: 1:20:46

When the match is going to come, it's all going to bubble down. They're all going to turn on each other and all this other stuff which kind of happened as soon as the match started. So it it was just like throw all that out the window kind of thing. You know, they did try to tell this whole story about jay. You can't trust nobody in there. And just then you know it's like okay, jay didn't need to be in this match. But here we are and so like very, uh, very mid, very predictable. However, I guess we did get our what? The fourth, our fourth, yep.

Speaker 1: 1:21:25

And officially I'm calling it now AJ Lee is returning Because you now have the setup, the proper setup that you would need to do it. Seth Becky, cm. Punk AJ Lee. I hate it. I mean yeah. Punk AJ Lee. I hate it. I mean yeah, but I love.

Speaker 2: 1:21:41

AJ Lee. I love her to freaking bits and I'm not excited for that.

Speaker 1: 1:21:50

But you'll see her in the ring. You'll be excited to see her in the ring.

Speaker 2: 1:21:52

No, Not like this, damn, not like this.

Speaker 1: 1:21:56

You know she's going over though.

Speaker 3: 1:21:59

Oh yeah, it's, AJ Lee.

Speaker 2: 1:22:01

Oh, not like this. You know she's going over, though, oh yeah it's AJ Lee. Oh, but for what? What? For what I like?

Speaker 3: 1:22:06

Pump's reaction to that sign.

Speaker 1: 1:22:08

It's basically Cena versus Miz again In the couple clash.

Speaker 3: 1:22:18

Or was it Edge and fucking?

Speaker 1: 1:22:20

Beth Phoenix. Yeah, who were they going against though?

Speaker 3: 1:22:26

Edge no, no it wasn't Cena wasn't Rollins, wasn't Rollins. I'm trying to think. You know what I'm talking about that was that point.

Speaker 1: 1:22:40

No, I thought it was Hunter. No, no, no, no, no damn it. That's gonna eat away at me now. Who the fuck was it?

Speaker 3: 1:22:52

was it Judgment Day?

Speaker 1: 1:22:54

no, it was actually it might be. No, it was, uh, actually it might be, because I think maybe Rhea went against her, maybe, Raquel no, no, definitely Raquel. Raquel was way later. Anyway, what makes this match? Um, yes, apparently, as uh, as uh, way Barrett said, a ninja appears and low blows An apparent ninja, that's what he said.

Speaker 2: 1:23:27

Apparent ninja, low blows.

Speaker 1: 1:23:30

Low blows, cm Punk, and you immediately knew who it was. When you saw her build, I immediately, like I, saw how short she was. I saw how you know thin she was. When you saw her build, I immediately, like I, saw how short she was. I saw how you know thin she was and I was like no titties, no ass.

Speaker 2: 1:23:43

I didn't say all that, I didn't say all that, but that's what you saw.

Speaker 3: 1:23:47

I didn't say all that you saw the flatness, you knew who it was.

Speaker 1: 1:23:49

I didn't say all that.

Speaker 2: 1:23:50

I didn't say all that, but I did say immediately, immediately, okay, that's becky which could be anybody else I really don't want the, the mix tag, I don't you know what, because it's a waste of fucking time, because, unless this is what I need them to just go ahead, skip all this b and let's just continue on and just finish up this whole Rollins and Punk situation.

Speaker 2: 1:24:23

Because, that's where they're trying to get to, but they're spinning wheels, they're trying to put something in the midst of it and I'm like of all of the reasons and the possibilities and stuff like that of bringing AJ Lee back. You want to bring her back for something like this?

Speaker 1: 1:24:43

I mean, sometimes people do that just to keep the other wrestler mostly protect them. But AJ hasn't wrestled for years, so I think it was a similar situation with another tag team where the other person hasn't wrestled for a while. So they're trying to let the wrestler who's currently on the roster do most of the work and then the other wrestler just to prevent them from getting gassed out or whatever.

Speaker 2: 1:25:06

They'll use that as a or just let her stay her asshole, respectfully.

Speaker 3: 1:25:15

Listen, what's she doing? She's not doing well anymore. She's not doing well anymore.

Speaker 1: 1:25:18

She's not doing well anymore, apparently.

Speaker 2: 1:25:20

I am quite the aj lee person. When aj let me put it this way when melina disappeared, aj lee was the one who took my heart and held it for her whole duration of being present in the WWE. When AJ Lee left, it left an empty void that to this day, has not truly been fulfilled.

Speaker 1: 1:25:49

Oh, you're not a Rhea Ripley fan.

Speaker 2: 1:25:53

Rhea Ripley does not fill that emptiness in my heart like AJ Lee did.

Speaker 1: 1:25:57

I'm just saying like everybody's like, so Rhea Ripley does not fill that emptiness in my heart like AJ Lee did. I'm just saying like everybody's like, so Rhea Ripley, everything.

Speaker 2: 1:26:01

Yeah, sure, I mean sure, Rhea Ripley's beautiful. You know what I'm saying. She is built wonderfully, proportioned greatly and has a fantastic look. She is a goth muscle mommy and by God she is beautiful, but she is not A beautiful. Okay, the only person who, like I said, filled that aj lee spot prior to her showing up was melina. Melina was my end all be all. Nothing was better, could be better and couldn't get any greater Type thing.

Speaker 1: 1:26:43

I was a Victoria fan for real after I saw them join his league.

Speaker 2: 1:26:46

I was like oh, that's how I saw you, Victoria, let's go Listen. But it's like after AJ Lee, like I said, it hasn't been the same Stephanie. I feel as if could be that, but they're not giving me stephanie right now. Therefore, I can't say I hold on to charlotte, because that is all I have right now I'm sorry thank you.

Speaker 1: 1:27:11

Yeah, go ahead. No, I want to see you. I want to see you. I want to see you pop off on him like you're popping off on me. Go ahead.

Speaker 2: 1:27:18

Well, first off, if not Charlotte, then who? You say I'm sorry? Then what's it for you?

Speaker 3: 1:27:26

Are we doing this out of the Four Horsewomen?

Speaker 2: 1:27:30

I'm not even talking about the Four Horsewomen.

Speaker 3: 1:27:33

I'm still a bailey man.

Speaker 2: 1:27:35

Respectful, I can respect that bit, but like, if not, who does it for you? Like Charlotte does it for me right now.

Speaker 3: 1:27:45

Anyone who doesn't get handed a fucking title.

Speaker 1: 1:27:49

But give us a specific person. So he's asking, like do you have somebody? Like that's your end, all be all. Like Asuka would be slightly for me. Yeah, I like.

Speaker 3: 1:27:57

Asuka would be slightly for me. Yeah, I like Asuka. Asuka's there for me okay, I got it.

Speaker 1: 1:28:06

NXT Asuka if we're talking about, that'd be Shayna. For me NXT Shayna and I'm not talking about looks while I'm talking about that was my female wrestler at that time.

Speaker 2: 1:28:19

I got you. We've already talked about. I just want to make sure, yeah we make sure we had that podcast already and we've the. It's already. It's been laid out very clearly how we feel on that, but you say Oscar for you though. Okay, well, charlotte's been there, done that beat. Oh my god, you stay over there. So going on about the fact of this whole possible situation did.

Speaker 3: 1:28:48

Charlotte go like a year without being beat or her entire NXT run without being beat no, charlotte didn't do that no, charlotte didn't do that, asuka did that wait, what was that?

Speaker 1: 1:28:59

yes, asuka did that?

Speaker 2: 1:29:00

Wait, what was that? Yes, asuka did go all that time undefeated, but who broke that undefeated streak?

Speaker 3: 1:29:09

But who couldn't?

Speaker 2: 1:29:12

do the streak period? Charlotte, doesn't matter, it doesn't matter if she could not do the streak.

Speaker 2: 1:29:18

What matters is who beat the streak. We don't talk about Brock Lesnar's WrestleMania streak. We talk about when he beat the streak. You see what I'm saying here. Who was it that beat? I think it was Hulk Hogan who beat Goldberg, or who was it. Who was it that beat Goldberg? Oh, kevin Nash. It was Kevin Nash. Okay, kevin Nash is a little bit different, but at the same time, though, how is Big Sexy different? Well, we talk. I only say it's a little different because I don't know WCW like that. That's why I People don't really talk a whole lot about who beat Goldberg's undefeated streak.

Speaker 1: 1:29:55

So it's like, I mean, it's definitely documented because it took a taser to do it. Ah, that's what that was. It was Scott Hall tasering him. That's crazy.

Speaker 2: 1:30:08

I real, okay, okay, I remember hearing about that. Charlotte didn't need a taser, so it's all good.

Speaker 3: 1:30:13

Cause Charlotte couldn't do a streak.

Speaker 2: 1:30:14

I want to say, did Charlotte make her tap, if I'm not mistaken. I'm pretty certain you know this pissing match right now listen. What matters is Charlotte is still a champion and whoever yours is and hers actually yours is an AEW. She is a champion, but AEW is a completely different conversation.

Speaker 3: 1:30:44

Dude Mercedes Monet, no bitch.

Speaker 1: 1:30:47

No, no fuck it's not. No the fuck it's not, it's fucking Toni Storm. Get out of here with this shit, bro. Fuck out of here with that shit, bro. Get the fuck out of here with that shit.

Speaker 2: 1:31:00

Bro, you gotta come out here. You gotta put your CEO belt down. No, nigga.

Speaker 1: 1:31:05

My screen's gonna be black and white. Y'all motherfuckers can stay in color, just to show that I'm with the timeless era, regardless.

Speaker 2: 1:31:15

I don't need AJ Lee coming back here to try and fight becky lynch. All right, I just don't want it. I don't want it, I would wrap. I would rather her come back in like a royal rumble and maybe do something else that is actually worth her time than waste her fucking time dealing with nobody. Becky and and her husband time dealing with nobody. Becky and her husband what?

Speaker 1: 1:31:40

Okay, so what if they did something like that? Okay, so hypothetical, right, they keep building up to it. And then she does make it the Royal Rumble, and then she's the one that takes out Becky and then starts a feud between the two. Would you prefer, prefer that way? No?

Speaker 2: 1:31:59

I want her to go to the Royal Rumble to try and win and become a champion or something. I don't want any Becky in my AJ Lee.

Speaker 3: 1:32:12

So when AJ supposedly wins this hypothetical Royal Rumble, do you want him to do it the same way he did with Charlotte and just hand her the win?

Speaker 1: 1:32:21

Wait, first off, charlotte didn't win this one and I was totally on Tiffy time, so you better get that shit straight. Okay, there's no time better than Tiffy time. Anyway, watch, yeah, we, we will get on that one.

Speaker 2: 1:32:41

It was like now you're talking about charlotte, now you're talking about tiffany but no, I just, I just don't, I don't, I don't care for, I don't, I don't want to see that, I don't think. For blonde it's like, if is that really what we needed, to bring her back so that she could go up against Becky.

Speaker 1: 1:33:03

Yeah, if I'm tired of flat chest vibes, let's go quit body shaming this woman Anyway.

Speaker 2: 1:33:11

I just don't like Becky.

Speaker 1: 1:33:14

I don't like Becky and. I like this run.

Speaker 3: 1:33:18

I've never really liked.

Speaker 2: 1:33:20

I've never liked any of her runs.

Speaker 1: 1:33:21

I've never liked any of her runs. Actually, that's a lie. I like big time Becky in this version of Becky.

Speaker 2: 1:33:26

I have anything that referred her as being man presenting is nothing that I've cared about.

Speaker 2: 1:33:35

That was stupid. Any kind of Becky and man situation is been a no for me. Yeah now, I was not mad at steampunk becky because I like the look of the aesthetic and I mean but like, but I mean I guess I mean kudos for her for getting this whole man shtick, because that got her out of mid card hell and I guess put her in the main event. That's where she wanted to be. So I guess I guess there's that piece. But just because it happened doesn't mean I'm cool with it or I care about it.

Speaker 1: 1:34:09

I will say I only prefer big time Becky in this current version of her cause. I she because she got a lot of swagger with her outfits and I like the swagger that she comes out with as a champion currently, because you didn't get that in any other run, she just was back. But I kind of can see the she's flaunting herself, not like a flair, far from that, but because Charlotte Flair has she be dressing nigga. Okay, I'm not going to ever put nobody in that category because Charlotte be popping the fuck off, but I'm enjoying the swagger that Becky's been having in her promos. Now she's presenting herself. She may not be the best in like the in-ring presentation and all that kind of stuff, but as presenting herself as a champion I like that presentation.

Speaker 2: 1:35:05

The only thing that I would say as of right now that I have to just be okay with and deal when it comes to Becky is because her name is on such a pedestal right now is the only reason why I'm like I'll sit here and I'll just deal with these matches with her, because it's like because by namesake, just being in the same ring with her it's putting people on another level kind of thing. Maybe it is kind of still to be seen, because you know she had that whole blowout situation with what's her name Goddamn Bella no, no, no, no, no, no. Valkyr no, she hasn't even touched Stephanie just yet.

Speaker 1: 1:35:54

No, not Bailey, oh yes.

Speaker 2: 1:35:58

The other girl that she was. There we go, Lyra.

Speaker 1: 1:36:00

Yeah, that's my Lyra, that's my man, yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:36:02

Yeah. So it's like they're like. She did put Lyra on a pretty good pedestal with the feud that they had. However, I don't blame Lyra for this. I blame the company, because ever since that whole feud has happened, we have not she hasn't had a fucking match. I haven't seen her. She's running around backstage being like do you know if Bayley's okay? Has anyone talked to her? She's doing all this crazy stuff and talking to herself and hearing voices counseling, understand all that good stuff, but she has not been in the ring since she fought Becky, and that was like a month ago, yeah. And so it's like what are we doing? It's like you use Becky to try and bring her up to a certain level just to drop her back down to the ground, as where your favorite wrestler right now is just not picking bitches up at all and she's just doing this fucking money dance and shit. So so I guess it is what, what, what so.

Speaker 3: 1:37:24

I guess it is what I know I can do, that I want to take my little boy's part, see, see be damn if I win a fighting game tournament that has the fucking letter CEO on the belt and these bitches just run with this goofy ass gag is that just one belt? It's two belts.

Speaker 1: 1:37:49

You got two belt Beck over there oh, and then you gonna put me with Becky Lynch too, bro, come on two belts Becks, oh man.

Speaker 2: 1:37:57

two belts Maz, baby. You going to put me with Becky Lynch too, bro, come on. Two belts Becks, oh man. Two belts Mars, baby, I'm dead.

Speaker 1: 1:38:03

I'm going to start coming on a pod with them. Bitches, Listen.

Speaker 2: 1:38:07

I mean, I was about to actually sound real disrespectful. What? Because, unlike Mercedes-Montes belts, at least the CEO belts that you have actually have some worth and meaning to them. Yeah, because Mercedes out here like but he's got two, she's got nine. Yeah, you got to catch up bro.

Speaker 3: 1:38:29

Yeah, but but your girl's beating it pretty bad.

Speaker 2: 1:38:35

But at least with the belts that you have, people actually know what those belts are, as where mercedes? She's just walking around, a bunch of no-name who gives a fuck titles. One of them is completely obsolete. But dialing it back, this last match, it was also a C for me. It was a C, it's nothing C.

Speaker 1: 1:39:00

Yeah, yep C C.

Speaker 2: 1:39:02

Becky Lynch didn't make it any better this pay-per-view overall can't write down a little bit?

Speaker 1: 1:39:07

overall ranking would be a C.

Speaker 3: 1:39:09

This was a house show at best yeah, with a pretty, with a decent titantron damn Shane.

Speaker 2: 1:39:18

the titantron, damn shame. The titantron is what made the zebra. If they would have given me the presentation that they had tonight and that titantron was ass solid, solid 100% solid, solid, 100%.

Speaker 1: 1:39:44

Oh my god. Well, any final thoughts on Clash of Clans do better.

Speaker 3: 1:39:52

I need. I should have took a nap been a great Shaq, emoji Shaq emoji I took a nap Been a great Shag emoji.

Speaker 1: 1:40:00

That's exactly it.

Speaker 2: 1:40:02

Shag emoji. They need to do better, man. They need to do better, and it's like if this is the half-assed send-off that they're going to do as the last regular WWE PLE that's going to be on Peacock, that it's like this is not giving me any reasons to want to stay here or buy the ESPN, or buy the ESPN.

Speaker 2: 1:40:32

Like we said it earlier when we were watching it, the way that they created this pay-per-view is like this was the red-headed stepchild to the newborn baby that they're about to have next month, hey look bro, we might have to go to that one website.

Speaker 1: 1:40:48

We ain't gonna say no names.

Speaker 2: 1:40:51

Oh, 100%. Put it on the phone, cast it to the TV. Yep, call it a day. They don't do it anymore.

Speaker 1: 1:40:56

Nope to the TV.

Speaker 3: 1:40:57

No, call it a day.

Speaker 2: 1:40:57

No, they're all going to Max or they could, or because what they did for Ring of Honor and screw up their little pay-per-view, their pay-per-view rights and just be like you know what? Fuck it Free, put it free. Put it on.

Speaker 1: 1:41:12

YouTube. They really should do Ring of Honor on YouTube for free. They really should.

Speaker 2: 1:41:17

I will say and I was actually talking to my roommate, ray Zeon. I should just address him as Ray Zeon because, because that's who he is, he's also a wrestler House of Spades. But it's like we were talking about this pay per view and even though it's still loaded up like your stereotypical AEW pay-per-view fucking a thousand matches in a course of fucking four hours kind of thing but comparably speaking to Forbidden Door, this pay-per-view Head Over Heels better than Forbidden Door.

Speaker 1: 1:41:55

I won't say that much for that last match, but yeah, athena versus Muriel head over heels better than forbidden door.

Speaker 2: 1:42:05

I won't say that much for that last match. But yeah, uh with the universe is morale. Yeah, it wasn't the best uh uh main event, but the pay-per-view went all yeah to me. Yeah, it's pretty decent, definitely a good pay-per-view.

Speaker 2: 1:42:14

And what zeon said to me was it made sense when he said this to me? And it's like the reason why the Ring of Honor pay-per-view is better is because the people who are on the Ring of Honor pay-per-view, comparably speaking, perventor was in London big-ass arena 20,000, however many people, it was right. The ring of honor pay-per-view was held in the ecw arena with less than a thousand people in attendance, and it's like it's. The difference between the two is like nxt versus a regular wwe pay-per-view. These people on Ring of Honor, they're trying to wrestle their asses off to get out of Ring of Honor hell, because Ring of Honor is where the midcard and jobbers wrestle to become jobber, midcarders on regular AEW kind of thing. Because the people who are here, though, to AEW are jobbers and mid-carders. On Ring of Honor, they are main eventers and upper mid-card people.

Speaker 1: 1:43:30

Yeah, mark Briscoe to me is not a main eventer.

Speaker 2: 1:43:32

Yeah, he's not presented as one. I feel like he could be one, but they're not allowing him to be one because maxwell jacob freeman is better than him and we all know it.

Speaker 1: 1:43:49

you goddamn right, were you about to say anything? Sord no okay, you just kind of had. You just got out of his look on your face like yeah, something you want to bring up to the table as well. No no, I'm good.

Speaker 2: 1:44:01

Okay, okay.

Speaker 1: 1:44:03

Are you sure? Because if you got it, Before we kind of divulge it to a whole other conversation. Overall, I think everybody can agree the pay-per-view was a C. Swag is saying because of the Titan trying, if it wasn't the Titan tryingon, it'd be a D for him. You're also saying a C as well, correct?

Speaker 3: 1:44:23

I actually agree with Swag.

Speaker 1: 1:44:25

It's a C because of the Titan Tron. Basically, I said the pay-per-view overall was just a C, it was just yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:44:31

And going off of what we said before, because the first thing and the reason why it makes sense with this right the in the past, before any matches happen, the first thing you see is the pyro display used to, I should say, what you used to see is the pyro display in the titan tron. And when you would see that titan tron be like, oh shit, they don't did that, shit boy, that ohper-view about to be nice. Well, this pay-per-view about to be lit. Look at how fucking cool this shit. I can't wait to see what they look like when they come out to the ring on this titantron. And that's what this pay-per-view did in the beginning. I saw that titantron like, damn, I can't wait to see what they look like when they come out to the ring. And they start coming out to the ring, I'm like, oh, this is lit, and then the matches happen.

Speaker 1: 1:45:25

And I think that's a great way to end it all Fez. So, guys, if you enjoy our opinions on you know Clash of Clans, please put them in the comment section. If you haven't yet chokeslam that like button Tombstone the subscribe button. It is us here at the Big Brothers of Destruction podcast. Again, thank you, story for coming on always a pleasure always remember that the ring is sacred. The questions are real, destruction is guaranteed.

Speaker 2: 1:45:55

So it's Demasaku it's ya boy, swag Switcher.

Speaker 3: 1:46:01

This is Story of Sorrow.

Speaker 1: 1:46:03

We'll see you guys next time. Thank you for tuning in and we got some topics to talk about with this Rajah. God damn it. This shit's getting annoying as fuck, but we getting the fuck out of here All right and bye.

Speaker 2: 1:46:15

We'll see you next time.