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Wrestling’s Identity Crisis
Wrestling fans are facing a crisis of faith as the industry undergoes a troubling transformation. In this raw, unfiltered conversation, we dive deep into the alarming disconnect between skyrocketing ticket prices and plummeting content quality that's reshaping professional wrestling.
We break down Andrade's surprise WWE release and explore what it reveals about the current booking landscape. Is creative failing across the board? When SmackDown delivers just two matches in a broadcast while charging premium prices, something fundamental has shifted in the wrestling business model. The Brock Lesnar/John Cena confrontation exemplifies this new reality – big names thrown together without coherent storytelling, banking solely on star power to drive interest.
The most shocking revelation? WrestleMania ticket prices have nearly tripled, with averages jumping from $500 to $1,200. As one host pointedly observes, "Rich people don't give a damn about wrestling unless they're celebrities who grew up poor watching it on TV." This pricing strategy, combined with WWE's decision to take WrestleMania to Saudi Arabia before the UK despite decades of passionate British fans, signals a profound shift in who wrestling companies view as their core audience.
We also examine AEW's concerning "fake money matches" trend, LA Knight's frustrating booking purgatory despite clear star potential, and the one bright spot of the week – Dominic Mysterio's AAA Championship victory. Throughout it all, we propose an alternative vision for enjoying wrestling in this new era: communal viewing experiences that recreate the energy of live events without the prohibitive costs.
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Welcome to another episode of the Big Brothers of Destruction podcast. It's the Masako.
Speaker 2:It's your boy. Swag Switch in the building.
Speaker 1:And boy do we have a bit of a wild week of wrestling for us here. A lot kind of going on for the week and some good, some bad. But let's just kind of get into it. Let's just get straight into it. The first thing I want to bring up to swag is andrade just got released well, I don't know the details I I literally just in.
Speaker 2:When I say in passing, I literally mean scroll, scroll, scroll, although the way that it was worded it was like andrade, andrade, fired, that's what I see. Yeah, and so not really right. Fired, which I mean, I guess released, is kind of the most professional way to say it well, no, no.
Speaker 2:Well, so the released is the the nicer way of firing somebody? Yes, when you get fired, usually that means you did something wrong. And now that I'm actually recalling what I read, because literally it was like it was on threads and I don't really use threads and I didn't want to click on threads because I got a new phone and with the new phone you have to like install it and all this other stuff and I'm like I don't feel like doing all that right now. And so it was like I saw it. It was just said Andrade fired and they briefly said something about behavioral issues of some sort like that's.
Speaker 1:Actually when I was watching Wrestlemania, there was something Fightful had mentioned that it could be related to behavior, but really what boiled it down to was Andrade wasn't answering his phone. Wwe was basically calling him, trying to give him, you know, ideas and things for the tag team, and he just wasn't picking up the phone. Can you blame him? Though? He was about to win the tag team titles with Phoenix. They were trying to apparently pitch the idea of apparently, at Clash of London, that match apparently instead of the Street Profits, it could have been potentially him, andrade and Phoenix and they potentially were going to get the tag titles so the reason why I'm like I can't blame andrade is because of the fact of like.
Speaker 2:Why the fuck is he in a tag team with someone who is legitimately an established tag team partner, with another individual who is in the company and they have an actual name? Andrade and Phoenix is about as good as Taz and Spike Dudley Like. The only difference is the fact that both of them are Spanish. That's it. And we got El Phantasmo, we got LWO, we got enough Latino tag teams. And that's not talking about the addition of AAA, because what would end up happening is that those two ragtag tag teams partners would just end up on AAA. And so I can understand why he ain't picking up the phone, and maybe you're right. He will go to CMLL and be just himself because he wants to win real championships. Mike, I can't argue with him.
Speaker 1:I mean, you're not wrong. You're not wrong. Here A lot of people are saying that, yeah, he did not burn his bridges with AEW and this would be the first time ever where somebody left WWE to AEW, from AEW to WWE, back to AEW. And to me, honestly, bro, can you imagine a job, like you say, where you're currently employed, right? Imagine a job like you say, where you're currently employed, right, you go to another location, they go back to your job. To leave that job, to go back to this Like that, to me, is crazy. You never get that opportunity in like normal society where it's just you only got two jobs, you'd be surprised I have.
Speaker 2:But when it comes to normal society, outside of something like that, I have only, I have only went back and worked at a job that I left one time, only one time, and that job that I worked at was my second job. So it was my second job. I worked there, didn't need it, I left, just had my, had the one job, but then a situation coming up where I needed that second job again and I went back there and then I left again. I haven't gone back ever since, but like it was the second job, so so it wasn't really like it wasn't a main job. As far as main jobs go, no, I've if, if, once I've left that job, there's no going back to it. I don't, you know, we just move forward, cause obviously there's a reason why you left first.
Speaker 1:I'm surprised he hasn't done something like new japan or something like that. But that just means a spin ball right there.
Speaker 2:I mean you know either way, do you?
Speaker 1:it doesn't do spanish people go to new japan like that, because I mean that's kind of a excursion that you know japan, people from japan goes on excursions where they go to places like mexico, they go to America, so it's not unlikely for them to do that same thing. That's what I'm saying. It's not unlikely. It's not unlikely. They don't do the same thing because Americans go on excursions to Japan, they go on excursions to Mexico. It's kind of a common thing, depending on you, know.
Speaker 2:But I've never. I mean Ultimo Dragon, ultimo Dragon, depending on you, know, but I've never. I mean I ultimo dragon, ultimo dragon, anybody else?
Speaker 1:well, I'm just saying, like, in general, it's, it's, it's not a very common thing, but like literally, um, I forgot the fucking tag team. Well, the faction um the one that Naito, in a good chunk of those were, if not Japanese, but Mexican wrestlers but see, I also feel right now with the upper.
Speaker 2:Now, brent, I don't know what New Japan is paying people nowadays, but like New Japan is like a nowadays yeah, now yeah, but like New Japan is like a last-ditch effort of a spot to even be going to. I feel right now Like no one's really caring about going over to New Japan.
Speaker 1:Like no one's going there right now.
Speaker 2:No one's doing anything worthwhile over there and I don't see and Andrade, because I've not seen especially big-name Spanish people, or at least recently I don't see why they would go over there, because there is plenty of places that they could go, where their people are, because Spanish folk tend to normally stick if they're not reaching out and doing like a big company. They're going to stick into their Spanish roots. And I don't see Andrade, especially the upper echelon of people that he is and the upper echelon of a wrestler I feel he sees himself as, because I feel that's the other thing, or the other problem with him right now is the fact, like he, I feel Andrade sees himself as a world heavyweight champion material, and WWE isn't going to give that to him no, and the thing about this, I don't think AEW will either.
Speaker 1:So that's kind of why I know they're, they're absolutely.
Speaker 2:That's why I feel the way I feel. Let's see goes to cnnl aew barely sees their, a their champion, as championship material right like yeah, that that part, you know, it really kind of boils down to a lot of that.
Speaker 1:In wrestling right now, nobody's I've been hearing the comments that nobody's really creating stars. They keep constantly utilizing the same people and one of the examples is they keep doing that with LA Knight.
Speaker 2:I mean, it's true.
Speaker 1:Yeah, looks like LA Knight is one of those examples. Sorry, no, no, no, you heard it right.
Speaker 2:I was trying to think of when the house is hot. Then you got to have the windows open.
Speaker 1:Oh man, I was like all right, alright, holler, if you hear me, but uh, I'm about to be Frankenstein but it's unfortunate.
Speaker 1:But I know a lot of people have been saying that WWE at this time, honestly a lot of places are doing is they're not giving their, they're not trying to build stars, they're just going off of star power. And that's why, like, if you look at AEW right now, their main three stars are supposed to be Hangman Swerve and Will Will Ospreay that's apparently their three when originally you had the four pillars. But I guess that's not a thing anymore.
Speaker 2:Bro, wrestling right now is so Let me put it if I was wanting to train to be a booker, right now is the best time to get an idea of how to not book. All right, it's been. The booking across the board has been some of the most atrocious I have seen for, honestly, the last two months it's been horrible, bro, like with what you're saying. There was a talk in the group chat right where it was all like yo, how stale is wrestling right now. Very, when you look at Raw outside of AJ Lee right now, you see the exact same people in the exact same matches finishing in the exact same ways. Raw uses like the same 20 people, just switch swapped or in a tag team.
Speaker 2:Like good example, stephanie Vakir and Io Sky are supposed to be having a match. Do you know that Stephanie has not had a televised match in two fucking months, bro? The last time she had a match, she, what was it? She fought in that, that, that all-star tag team match that had her rhea ripley, um, nikki bella I don't think Io was in there, no, versus, like Judgment Day and whoever else, but it's like she had that match and she has not had a match since, and then she has proceeded through most of that time. She's only been on TV twice, or at least on Raw twice.
Speaker 2:Now she did show up at NXT because she's going to have a match at NXT this coming week. But it's like how am I supposed to care about this woman's title match if there is nothing going on? The story that Io Sky is in has nothing to do with the, the title or valkyr. So it's like, when this match comes outside of the fact that I would really wish stephanie would win, she's not, or maybe she will, who knows, depending on how I want to go with the story. But even then it's like we're just these two are just fighting because they got cool names. Their names are important.
Speaker 1:They're just fighting because they got cool names. It's crazy.
Speaker 2:That's why it is Bro. Aew is the worst at that. That's what. What was it? When you look at the build up between Tony Storm and Mercedes Monet, what was that build up? What was the story? Why were they fighting?
Speaker 1:besides the fact that, oh, they're both champions and even it wasn't even like a belt versus belt thing. Besides the fact that, oh, they're both champions and it wasn't even like a belt versus belt thing?
Speaker 2:No, it wasn't. And then the match happens Sure bells and whistles. It was a beautiful match, it was fun, it was great Whoop-de-doo. They're great competitors. Tony Storm wins. What happens after that?
Speaker 1:Mercedes Monet, she comes out and she does her fucking dance.
Speaker 2:Your favorite dance, apparently, says the man with the CEO belts, and she goes on to then no story involved, just be inserted in a match where she's defending her title against three other people. Why these three other people? Outside of the fact that one of them is Will Ospreay's girl, windsor. Of course, she wins that no story, who cares? And then she has another match with Windsor, again one-on-one. She wins or loses, she's still the champion. And then you look at all the girls who you see on a regular basis on TV Tagline Aminata, sky Blue Fucking, megan Bainane all these bitches. But instead a girl who we hadn't seen in 14 months bro, has not been seen on tv in 14 months and she shows up stomps on her 14 months. And she shows up stomps on her and immediately after that, oh, I guess they're having a match. Now what's the story? Why do we care? Where the fuck has this girl been for the last 14 months?
Speaker 1:she has no injury. No, nothing, nothing. No injury to port, no no, no injury.
Speaker 2:The last time she was on tv and and for those, um, what's her fucking name?
Speaker 1:uh, goddamn uh chris, it wasn't, chris, it wasn't no, no, no, no, the the uh uh um, now you're gonna have me look it up.
Speaker 2:Hold on Go show how much I care about it. The Asian girl, goddamn oh, rio, rio, rio, hell yeah, jeez bro, you're looking at me like damn. You didn't know either.
Speaker 1:No, I could remember her name as well, but once you said boom Rio, I was like yeah, Rio, Rio, Rio, Rio, Girl with the theme song Fucking Reho. Which Jim Cornette, bro, he has his gripe with her. He's like bro. She is at least maybe 95 pounds soaking wet to him.
Speaker 2:She's a child, sir.
Speaker 1:I will say this is the wacky thing about wrestling that you know where some areas you're okay with it. Like you can be. It can be gimmicky wrestling, like okay to me the whole situation with, like Mystery Iguana. The thing with Joe Henry, the thing there's so many things about, with particular things that people may or may not like but are okay with this. Like for me to see Rio and you telling particular things that people may or may not like, but okay with this. Like for me to see Rio and you telling me if she was like I think she was going against um, what's her name? Basically one of the powerhouses in AEW at the time Can't think of her name at the moment but she went against her and won a match and I'm like I can't believe that her name at the moment, but she went against her and won a match and I'm like I can't believe that. I cannot believe.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know who you're talking about.
Speaker 1:You're talking about which I haven't seen. Yeah, where the fuck she go? Yeah, she would be really good right now on the roster.
Speaker 2:I'm not even worried about the Rios childlike, that's yeah, neither like. I'm not even worried about her childlike size. That's not the part that bothers me. The part that bothers me is that she's been gone for a year in like two, three, been gone for a year and like two, three months. Two months A year and two months Not one televised viewing, not a word. We ain't seen her running around in the indies. She has been literally gone. And there are females who are on AEW right now who we see on a daily basis, every night. They're on TV Winning matches, doing stuff, cutting promos, and Riho shows up, says nothing, holds the belt in her hand one time and before we go to commercial break, and there it is, that's the match at the pay-per-view. She's getting her chance at the title. Why, why? She has not earned that.
Speaker 1:Has not.
Speaker 2:Since when Tony Khan out here talking about how he wants to keep the prestige of a title you know intact, which is why he made the whole cashing thing. You have to cash it in and give a week in advance time. Riho didn't give no advance week time.
Speaker 1:She didn't win that match.
Speaker 2:She didn't have no cash-in, but she just comes through the crowd, jumps on Mercedes' chest which probably felt like a feather and then holds the belt up and all of a sudden she's got a match, while we got bitches like Megan Bain out here bodying hoes undefeated. Never been pinned, but you know.
Speaker 1:She did lose to Tony.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry she didn't One time.
Speaker 1:It was a roll-up pin. It wasn't clean, though.
Speaker 2:She has not been pinned ever since, but still and even then, just and this is not just there, this is across the board with AEW right now, aew, they, they have been doing Prime example. Tell me you saw a collision. They, they have been doing prime example.
Speaker 1:Tell me you saw Collision? I did see bits of it. Yes, because I started watching it and I'm like, well, oh yeah, I started watching and I was working on my oil business because I was doing it at the same time and I just said you ever watch something else which is like skip? And I was just like I wish I did that.
Speaker 2:I sat here in this chair, which you guys can't see it, but there's a TV right there. It was actually you guys might be able to see. You guys can see my reaction to this show because I was actually streaming at the same time. Swag switch on Twitch. All right, I was streaming, I did a podcast. I'm playing my farm game and everything and I'm watching the paper. I'm watching wrestling Bro. I have never Bro. I have never At the. This was probably the most Dog shit wrestling Production I have ever seen, at least this year Like. This show Was bottom of the barrel. Like these matches that they have for money. Actually, I'll back up some On Dynamite yes, the all-star 10-man tag team match for a half a million dollars.
Speaker 1:Which again, I'm kind of tired that they're making this a thing, like as a regular, every week we have an all star match like that's starting to become very redundant. It's getting starting it has been, but the fact that they're actually establishing it as a thing.
Speaker 2:They're establishing it as a thing now you must have just been brain dead watching these shows as well.
Speaker 1:A lot of times, yes, you ever had that moment where you get so used to your routine that you're like, yeah, wrestling's on, pop that thing on, pop it on, just like how you were casually playing your game and you're just like two hours go by, yeah, alright, well, let me see what I'm gonna do next.
Speaker 2:It's to show you how bad it is right, because usually, to show you how bad it is right, because usually what I have whenever I'm taking notes and I want to, like you know, figure out what I want to talk about is I'll sit down, I'll watch the wrestling show. After I watched the wrestling show, I'll sit there and recall, all right, what were the things that stood out that I didn't want to talk about on the podcast, because I've made the decision that I'm not going to go and talk about every single match that happens on the show which, as a side note, after watching SmackDown, I guess I probably could go back to doing that, since there's only like two and a half matches to show.
Speaker 1:Yo yo what the fuck is going on with that dude what?
Speaker 2:the fuck Yo, literally SmackDown. I'm going to get back to Raw, but literally SmackDown. Was it just two?
Speaker 1:matches Like, literally though it was. So it was Phoenix, it was Phoenix and Sami, which, by the way, that's an AEW match written all over it Okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just muddied up with like 17 commercial breaks. That See, I don't know if AEW does all those commercial breaks like that, but At least they give us picture in picture God damn Like SmackDown start all those commercial breaks like that. But at least they give us picture, and picture god damn like.
Speaker 1:Smackdown start. Sometimes they only did it that one time where it was Sami and Cena, but I think it was cause it was Cena and people are like you wanna see Cena, so you wanna see the whole thing, but even then it was still five commercials.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it was five commercials. One, I think, was picture and picture, but with the way that I was watching actually. One, I think was picture-in-picture, but with the way that I was watching Actually. No, now that I think about it, I watched the picture-in-picture.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because I was watching it. I was watching it through a VPN and so, yeah, there was one picture-in-picture, but yeah, the rest were commercials. And what even kills me is that when you're watching it, especially using the VPN that I use, the commercials will be done, but then it'll go into the little when you're waiting for SmackDown to come back on the air and it's playing like the doo-doo-doo oh yeah, the music, the pose of this shit. Doo doo, doo, doo, doo, doo doo doo doo, doo, doo, doo, doo doo doo doo.
Speaker 1:You remember Because it reminds you of the old 2000, 2000, like fucking the post downs and shit. Like remember how Undertaker would turn around in the camera and dead man walking.
Speaker 2:It's like I'm sitting here looking at this and then it's like and we're back, going back to the wrestling match. I'm like I could have been watching that the whole fucking time. What is this?
Speaker 1:going back to the wrestling match, I'm like I could have been watching that the whole fucking time.
Speaker 2:What are you doing? What is this? But like, yeah, there was the Sami Zayn and Ray Fenix match and, yes, that match was really good.
Speaker 1:It was, it was really good.
Speaker 2:And then the other match that I remember. Oh, oh, that's right, bfab had a match yeah, was it a match?
Speaker 1:no, it was a beatdown. Yeah, it was a beatdown.
Speaker 2:And then Minchin came out there, killed it with the kendo sticks and it was done yeah, so there was the, the no contest match, and then Tiffany Stratton and, and what's her name, which was a no contest match, which also was a no contest match, and then Tiffany Stratton and what's her name, which was a no contest match.
Speaker 2:Which also was a no contest match. So there was, technically there was only two matches. Still there was schedule three. Three matches were scheduled, but only two of them actually happened. Matches were scheduled, but only two of them actually happened. Do you know how much those ticket prices are for SmackDown To watch two matches in a jump?
Speaker 1:session.
Speaker 2:Hold up, hold up now, Don't forget main event you watching main event main event, you watch your main event On Raw, Going back to the point that I was getting ready to make. I watch my shows and after I watch them I sit down and I'm like, alright, Now that I've watched everything, so that I don't give a play-by-play of each freaking match, because not all matches are extremely that important unless there is a big plot movement that happened in it. What do I recall that happened on the show? And there are times where I'll sit down and I'll watch a whole show and I'm like I don't remember what happened on the show and I just got done watching because there was nothing worth a damn like.
Speaker 2:And then sometimes, because I listen to other podcasts, I'm like, well, let me see what the other podcasts were talking about, see if they bring up a point that I want to bring up to you, type thing. And I'm watching them and they're all like, yeah, nothing fucking happened. Alright, I guess I'll talk to y'all next week.
Speaker 1:And it's like I mean, let's be honest, like and I know you was going on raw, but like the biggest thing that I would take away from SmackDown that really pissed me off because it's like, why did you even bring this match back up? Because at first I was thinking with Jade and Tiffany. I was like there is no fucking way you're going to give Jade the title on a SmackDown but they do shit like that right Only to be a double count out. Jay, you gotta be pissed right now. I know you gotta be pissed right now. Like the fact that, like we already hear that they don't really trust her to be a top star right now. They say she's a little too green and to literally dangle another title match in front of her.
Speaker 2:Highway robbery I listen too green and to literally dangle another title match in front of her. Highway robbery, I listen. I would have preferred if they just would have put her in like a whole another fucking, if they would have put him in. Maybe like go like, put her in like a, like a feud with something, make her and Nia Jax fight again like something, something oh, you know, my boo thing, my boo thing Nia Jax, fight again Something.
Speaker 1:My boo thing, nia Jax, she came out there.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying? I didn't know that was a thing.
Speaker 1:From day one, bro, nia Jax from day one. There are different adaptations of her, especially when it comes to how she do her hair. If it's really curly, that's primal. If she get the slick, dark hair, there's certain elements of Nia Jax that I'm just like.
Speaker 2:I mean, I too prefer straight hair. Nia Jax yeah. However, as much as taboo as it is, I also really enjoy. I'm Not Like Most Girls Nia Jax.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I miss that theme song, but not like the new version of it. I don't like most girls, I miss that. I miss that fucking song, bro, still the best song in WWE. Is we taking it all? Settle those quotes like that.
Speaker 2:I don't give a fuck what you doing because, like the person who has that theme song is garbage right now, really absolute trash really, and it's terrible should be. He's out here, bro. He's a jobber, bro, like he is. He is. Definition of mid-card right right, and he, he.
Speaker 1:I would rather hear that song than the whoa, whoa bullshit that everybody does with the fucking with seth rollins things on every monday night. We get him on there, bro, solo. Solo could be doing so much more, but for some reason they got to combine him with all Mid-card. Hell, brother, yeah.
Speaker 2:Like SmackDown is mid-card. Hell Like it is, or just hell. Yeah, you might as well, bro. Two matches, two finishes, and it's funny because you was talking about what you don't like. Yeah, you might as well, bro. Two matches, two finishes, and it's funny because you was talking about what you don't like. I'm surprised that you didn't bring up uh, uh, ron.
Speaker 1:Cena. Oh, you mean Brock Lesnar ripping his pants? I guess there's two different takeaways from that particular segment because I already I've already gotten to the point where man man Ron Killens that whole situation was dude just wanted to cut his dreads. He was like, hey, man, can I cut my dreads as an angle what?
Speaker 2:bothered me the most about that segment was the fact it's like it was almost as if they were rubbing it in our faces Because Brock Lesnar is like. Almost as if they were rubbing it in our faces Because Brock Lesnar is like and what did you say? Your name was again. At first, it was like, you know, it was like R-Truth Ron Cena and you're and John Cena is what? To you he's my big brother, but small brother, and you're Ron Cena. Right, that's what I said. Sure, that's who you are. And as I'm sitting here watching this in my brain, I almost felt Brock Lesnar looking at us like you heard what he said. Ron Killings is gone. Yeah, it doesn't matter, no more. Yeah, he's a goofy-ass nigga. Again Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. And you know what I'm going to do to this goofy-ass nigga. Hey, you got something in your teeth, huh, f5. Buy product. You got something in your teeth, huh, f5. Buy product. You rip his pants.
Speaker 1:Yo, I want to see Botchamania do the whole rip my pants. I know I shouldn't curse, but the pain feels so much. Botchamania, do it, do it, do it Use SpongeBob shit, do it, do it, do it Use SpongeBob shit, do it, do it, do it.
Speaker 2:SmackDown is a trap.
Speaker 1:It's a shell of what it used to be, a shell.
Speaker 2:It's not even a shell, bro. Well, remember when the whole it's a shell with a gaping hole in it, bro.
Speaker 1:Well, remember there was a point in time where SmackDown was the hottest thing going on right now, obviously because of the bloodline, you know, and how long ago was that it's a very long time. That's what I'm saying. It's a shell of itself.
Speaker 2:No, like Earlier this year, it was a shell of itself. I couldn't I don't know what the right term to describe what it is now Decomposing. That's what it is. It is a decomposing body of itself. That's what SmackDown is. Smackdown is such a waste of time. The only reason why I went out of my way to even give SmackDown a chance was to just Was more so because I just wanted to see if we were actually going to get an answer as to like hey Brock Lesnar, why the fuck did you just show up and beat up John Cena? And you know what? We got no fucking answers. So right now we're just sitting here like Brock Lesnar shows up, beats up John Cena and leaves and says I'll see you at Wrestle Palooza. Why, damn it, why? Why, you, son of a bitch, why would you do that?
Speaker 1:We got the video package, too, of Cena's career and shit and how it technically is connected to Brock, which that, I guess, was the story. It's just they have a long-running history of Cena being a specific way and then pissing off Brock and it's just been that way for years. And it's like, bro, why are you guys telling us the story of why we should care about this match through a package? The package is supposed to be before the match.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the package is supposed to give us the what's the word. I'm looking for the recap of what the story is leading up until now, going into the match.
Speaker 1:That's what the video package is for to me, the video package has always been for the guy who is making his girlfriend watch the show, or the vice versa, or whoever it is. If they're trying to explain well, why is this a thing? Well, baby, watch one second. Here's the video package. And then the video package before the match, it normally would explain for the person that's like, oh, I guess I get it now. Okay, so he did this, this, this, and that's why we're here. Yes, the video just showed that, and then normally they can get in.
Speaker 2:So because, I'll be honest, I fast forwarded through the video, so I don't actually know what the video package said or did.
Speaker 1:It was just basically about the fact that, you know, cena reinvented himself to go against Brock, created the FU against Brock and the whole history behind it and then, when Brock came back, beat him up and all that shit.
Speaker 2:So it more so gave the past history of Brock Lesnar and John Cena, but it has answered no questions as to why Brock Lesnar has now come back and, without warning or provoking, came in F5.
Speaker 1:John Cena. Besides the fact that they are the most heated of rivals, just like as if it was Randy Orton, who he's had multiple matches in one year against this is John Cena's greatest rival, apparently.
Speaker 2:But see, here's the issue. Alright, using that same logic, okay, when John Cena and Randy Orton last fought even though it was shitty and it was kind of rushed and kind of forced down our throats a little bit at least John Cena and Randy Orton had a story as to why that they were fighting. They've been crazy rivals. I would dare say that they've had a more deeper rivalry than brock lesnar and john cena. I think they had a thing. Those two got a deeper rivalry, but for this particular time that they're fighting, randy orton's like john cena. You changed this, ain't you?
Speaker 1:and you're not that good trying to run with that shit.
Speaker 2:But it's like, yeah, it's like, yeah, you've changed and this is not you. But you know what, don't worry, I'm gonna beat you up and I'm gonna take the towel from you because I'm not gonna let you ruin wrestling and, unlike cody rhodes, I will pull the trigger. That's the story. That was the story. And you know what yay or nay on how good it was. Forget the the star rating of the match, because the match was ass, two stars, one and a half at best. But like, putting that aside, at least they gave us a story, because otherwise, right now, going off that same logic. So you're telling me, after the last time that they fought, if I'm not mistaken, brock Lesnar was on top when he fought John Cena the last time that they fought, if I'm not mistaken, brock Lesnar was on top when he fought John Cena the last time. Pause, but am I right? The last time, john?
Speaker 1:Cena and.
Speaker 2:Brock Lesnar fought. Yeah, brock Lesnar beat up John Cena. Yes, so why? Why does Brock Lesnar Give a fuck About anything that John Cena is doing right now? He got his lick back. If anything, it should have been John Cena Running down and interfering in Brock Lesnar's Match To beat him up and be all like hey, last time we fought, you whooped my ass, I want to whoop your ass now. No, it was. Brock Lesnar was like damn, last time me and John Cena fought, I beat his ass.
Speaker 1:I wonder if I can do it again.
Speaker 2:I'm going to go do it again, and let this be known, this is us, as fans, assuming that's not the actual story.
Speaker 1:That's literally the story they're painting.
Speaker 2:There is no story and so it's like what? And going back to what you said at the very beginning of all this, all this is is really big name versus really big name, and we're going to put these two big names and really big lights, because people are going to want to see these two really big names face each other, regardless of a fucking reason, the perfect way of putting it right, and I want to.
Speaker 1:I want to paint the picture because we both know this, because we have both shopped here. You remember the floor, you remember the sanford flea market and you remember how they used to have counter selling of like the video game shops and stuff like that. This is the equivalent of you see one shop that's selling like okay, but we selling this, and this one saying we selling that, so it's like all right, all right, russell Palooza, all out.
Speaker 2:Brock Lesnar and John Cena.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, you got that, All right. But we got Darby Allin and fucking Jon Moxley in a coffin match. I get it, that's cool and all. But we got AJ Lee and CM Punk versus Seth Rollins and Becky I get that, that's cool, but we got Tony Storm versus Rio. That's a match you want to see, right? That is literally the counter programming that is going on in this shit, and that's the only reason why Cena and Brock are going against each other. It's for WrestlePalooza to become this big thing now.
Speaker 2:This is true. Now, quick correction, though it's Monet versus uh uh you right, you right, my bad right.
Speaker 2:However, it don't change. I probably would have made a bigger stink about it if it was Reho versus Toni Storm, cause, fuck, no, hell, no, you are not. How she skipped the whole fucking line, how she skipped the whole. I mean, the TBS title is a mid-card title anyway, so does that excuse her for skipping all the mid-card bitches right now who have been fighting their asses off and trying to get all this TV time where after 14 months, this girl just shows up one random time and now she's in a match for the title, no questions asked. Not to mention the fact that this past Dynamite Mercedes Monet comes out here with Riho's. Not to mention the fact that this past Dynamite Mercedes Monet comes out here with Riho's because the commentators painted this picture for us real quick. That she comes out here with Riho's mentor oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah as a tag team partner, yep.
Speaker 1:Mentor oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah so.
Speaker 2:Mercedes Monet and I don't remember her name, but it's Mercedes Monet versus Mercedes Monet and Riho's mentor, taking on Riho and Windsor.
Speaker 1:Okay, you gotta do it like that every time, Apparently. That's how you do it.
Speaker 2:Listen, JD from New York can kill me with that Windsor.
Speaker 1:Which I'm sorry if your gimmick is you saying your name a specific way? Crazy she comes out.
Speaker 2:So which goes to show how much that was paid attention. I didn't realize that she actually did that every time yes, I'll watch I'll watch jd from new york and every time he's talked about he'll be all like wins, uh, did this this? And he always says her name that way and I'm like, why does he do that? And and then I locked in for once while watching this show. I locked in and she comes out there, windsor, and then she gets in the ring Windsor.
Speaker 1:And I'm just like, oh, yeah, I noticed that in the promo, where her and Toni Storm and I was just like okay, this is your thing. Uh, okay, this is your thing. Yeah, this is your thing, which you know. Kudos to Tony Storm, not Tony Storm. Kudos to Tony Khan, if he is still allowing wrestlers like yo. Just try to get over yourself. It's the attitude error all over again. Just do something, get yourself over and but, but gone wrong yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean you got a couple of good apples couple, but there's a lot of them like there's like three good apples who are these good apples you talking about? Oh, I'm just I'm just saying in general, like if you look at a bunch of apples, there's like only three of them that are these good apples that fell about. I'm just saying in general, if you look at a bunch of apples, there's only three of them that are good.
Speaker 2:What are these good apples that fell from the learning tree?
Speaker 1:I need you to completely, completely stop. No, you did not. Redwood would not approve of that. No, you did not.
Speaker 2:Redwood would not approve of that. Bro, let me lock in now and get this shit in about Raw real quick. Yeah, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. Just to say, because there ain't much that happened on Raw. There's two things that stuck out to me. The first thing, boy, I really need the Usos to not leave each other ever again. Yes, did you see how Jimmy fell back into his sidekick role, where he rightfully deserves to be and should be, because he can't promo for shit. It's what the one-liners the quick the quick.
Speaker 1:You mean jay, you mean jay, you mean jay jimmy's the good, yeah, yeah, I was all like wait a second.
Speaker 2:I don't know why I keep doing that, like they don't even look like each other anymore. I still fuck that that up. But yeah, no, like Jay, he was like man. I'm like this is where you're supposed to be. Fuck this main event Uso. Shit bro, like, what are you doing? And then like freaking Big Jim out here boy, he was spitting the meanest pro. I'm like that's's. You were the main event Uso. That was supposed to happen. You're the real main event Uso. You're the real main event Uso. The only reason why you didn't become the main event Uso is because you had a broken freaking neck. That's the only reason. That's the only reason he had a busted neck and he had to take all that time out, and because of the fact that, because you can only let one twin win no, no, no.
Speaker 1:The real reason why he is not main event because he's already main eventing with Naomi. The man can't have two wins Okay, he's already winning with Naomi. He can't have two wins okay, he's already winning with Naomi, he can't have two wins sometimes.
Speaker 2:Sometimes that happens. Don't do that to him. You're trying with what you said would have to mean that he was winning prior damn, no, a lot of.
Speaker 1:I've seen some comments. One video I saw where it was. Uh, it was for some reason it was trying to establish the network, but net worth between naomi and and jimmy and the entire time. Well, if you got spirits in that boy, I could see they're affecting you.
Speaker 2:Um oh no, no, first off. No, it's just perspiring. You thought I'm over here fucking missing my face, scott. No, no, I said spirits. I said spirits. But yeah, you said, if it it's affecting me, I'm like, what do you mean you trying to say, I can't have this in my mouth?
Speaker 1:no, no, no, no. I'm saying when you drinking spirits, you get to the bottom of it. That's the, that's the hard part of the alcohol. You know what I'm saying? When you drink in spirits, you get to the bottom of it, that's the hard part of the alcohol.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying? No, no, no, I took a drink. I do see it. The condensation fell all over my shirt.
Speaker 1:And the condensation's cold.
Speaker 2:So I was like that's just like I thought when you said that the spirits, I'm like bro, I'm not buzzed, and even then I'm not that sloppy of a drinker.
Speaker 1:Side note for you and you, mr Drinker, there is a show you probably should check out in the future called. Well, it's not in the future because it already happened, it's on Netflix. It's called Drinkmasters. Check it out, drinkmasters. Got it? Yeah, check it out. Um, drink masters got it? Yeah, check it out, me and the wife will watch it. But side note, um, what I was saying was was the video was showcasing the net worth of both jimmy and naomi and the comments were just saying yeah, like apparently naomi was making more money than jim the whole time or whatever. And um, basically it was saying yo, with Jim and the money they were making, jim is already winning because he just got Naomi. They were saying his prize for all, whatever is him having Naomi.
Speaker 2:I mean, I guess that's fair. I guess that's fair If we want to go that route, and it makes sense that. Well, it makes sense that she makes more than him because he is originally presented as a tag team, so it's like his value is only as good as, I would say, him and his tag team partner, kind of share a value type here, at least originally. Now it is yeah.
Speaker 1:Once they've done this.
Speaker 2:one of Uso is the only one that's being pushed because he got yeet, which is actually funny because, from what I've heard and understood, both of them yeet backstage. They've always done the yeet thing. The only difference was one of them said it on camera first before the other one and then at the time when one of them said it on camera before the other one did, the other one was the heel, so he couldn't said it on camera before the other one did. The other one was the heel, so he couldn't say it on camera.
Speaker 2:He was saying it, but he said no yeet Exactly, and no one likes a no yeet. Here Come on. No one likes a no yeet man.
Speaker 1:Funny thing you brought up Jay, though, because in that same video, they would put up different versions of them throughout the years, so it was always naomi, but then sometimes they'll show jim, jim. Then, miraculously, you'll see jay at like, say, 2016 or something like that, and they'll go back to jim jim, jim, 2020, jay like whoa, and people in the comments were like uh, there's like a couple of these slots that it was not jim, that was jay.
Speaker 2:But that's just editing that's fair, though, but like, yeah, no, like, big jim deserves so much better. The only thing that I feel that does work and I think thing that I feel that does work in, I think, jay's wheelhouse is that I feel that Jay is a bit more of a better worker in the ring. He's more exciting to watch. Yeah, he was, you know he was. Yeah, he's definitely a more exciting one, especially when you compare them to the tag team. But at the end of the day, jim is the mouthpiece and he proved it of the day. Jim is the mouthpiece and he proved it on Raw, that he's still the mouthpiece of the whole situation.
Speaker 2:And then Jay has this little mini. It's not an actual heel turn, he just got his. He's just getting his lick back. Getting his lick back, so to say, with LA Knight, who I love, la Knight, but like man, it's like he left SmackDown to get away from dealing with the bloodline, just to come to Raw to get stuck with the Caucasian bloodline, which is barely hard to say that, because Brunson Reed is actually Samoa, so you still could just call it the bloodline, because Paul Heyman is there, one person from the shield is there, but there's a Samoan on the squad Like it it's. I feel bad for LA. He is championship material, stuck in this loop of madness with factions and he is factionless. He does not. He's not a team player, he is. He is a stone cold steve austin, if I've ever seen one but does not have the pool that stone cold has.
Speaker 1:it's crazy because it's because, like, granted, he is a, he is the same situation as with Penta. Penta has so much star power that again, a belt is not going to make him better and a lot of companies again for years was doing that, and I feel like they're doing that with LA Knight.
Speaker 2:No matter what if LA Knight goes out there and says LA that with la night, no matter what if la night goes out there, it says l a night, the entire audience will say yeah, but I also feel that like la night, like so, with penta it's a little. Penta is slightly different because he does have a whole lot of cool factor that goes with him.
Speaker 2:However, I think penta still needs a championship to really oh oh hell yeah, I want that LA Knight where people think what you're saying it's absolutely incorrect and it's hurting LA Knight. The longer LA Knight stays not champion, the longer LA Knight stays jobbing out to these other people. It's like we're looking at LA Knight just being a main event jobber for the rest of his life, because that's all he's doing. He'll get close to the title, he'll be in title matches, but he doesn't actually win it and he is too good of a talker for them to just continue doing that with him. And then there's people saying the fact that maybe he needs to go heal and join the vision.
Speaker 1:No, that's no, there's too many. Terrible that that like. No, you already got seth, who is able to talk, and you got, you know, paul hamill who could talk, and you got Paul Heyman who can talk. The whole point of doing something like that is you can't have everybody being mouthpieces.
Speaker 2:You can't, which is also a thing that I feel that hurts the vision, because everybody's the talker, everyone's got. You know like. I mean Grant Paul Heyman is out right now, but it's like. Ron Brinker's not bad on the mic. Brunson's not terrible on the mic. He could be better. Seth Rollins is not Rollins. Now we have Becky on their team and she's a thing on the mic, and so it's like.
Speaker 1:I like this Becky heel run. I don't give a fuck what you say. I like the Becky heel run. It's better than anything else she's ever fucking done. Let's be honest everything else was shit. This is the best she's ever been so far now listen.
Speaker 2:This Becky's run is like when they were shoving Ronda Rousey down on the ropes. You know what I'm saying? You know what? That's crazy. Like sure it could be, comparably speaking, the best that she's ever done, but no one wants her ass for it. I beg to differ. And then it's like, as much as I hate that we're doing this, like I hate that we're doing this thing with these, the couples fight that we got going on right now. Yeah, that is stupid. Let me put it this way it's because of things like this is the reason why LA Knight gets nothing, because we have things like this tying up the title picture and therefore LA Knight has no purpose for being there. He wants to be champion, but he can't get to the heavyweight title because we got Seth and his wife pussy putting around with CM Punk and his wife right now. Light it up, just like how, on the other side, we got Cody Rhodes out here who just came back from being gone.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just came back after missing what like two pay-per-views now, or something like yeah, he won the belt at summer slam.
Speaker 1:Well, no, it was one pay-per-view, because it's clash of london. Was there another one after that, before that?
Speaker 2:oh, is it clashing? Uh, because last time he time he defended his title was SummerSlam, right, he won it. No, because he won it. Yeah, he won it from there. So it's like he's been gone from Paris and, if I remember correctly, there was something else in between there.
Speaker 1:I don't think that was a pay-per-view per se. I mean, unless you're counting, worlds collide.
Speaker 2:No, I'm not counting that. I'm not counting that.
Speaker 1:No, Saturday Night Main Event no, I don't think that.
Speaker 2:Maybe no, there hasn't been one of those. But it's like what? Even then he's talking back on this next big year because now he's going to fight Drew McIntyre. The heavyweight title has been gone for all this time. There's been no contenders for it, no real fighting for it. The person who put him out has been gone for like two and a half three weeks, Doing nothing, Just little backstage vignettes. And then he finally had his match with Randy Orton just now. But I was like what are we doing?
Speaker 1:All gas, no brakes.
Speaker 2:Where the fuck is he?
Speaker 1:I was just saying.
Speaker 2:I was talking about.
Speaker 1:I was talking about because Drew did the all gas, no brakes.
Speaker 2:Where is all gas? No brakes, I don't know, because it looks like his brake light is stuck right now Because he hasn't gone anywhere.
Speaker 1:He's either, oh no, he's too busy dancing at live shows. I don't know if you saw the video.
Speaker 2:What video are you talking about?
Speaker 1:He's pop locking with the Usos.
Speaker 2:He's pop locking with the Usos. Bro wrestling's been a joke. Dog Wrestling is a joke. Like wrestling is such a joke. I can barely enjoy AJ Lee, as she's a day one drop anything and everything for her individual and I can barely enjoy it because it's just garbage absolutely.
Speaker 1:What do you think could fix it currently?
Speaker 2:at this point I'm about to be like bring back Vince McMahon. Fuck Like, do something.
Speaker 1:I don't the funny thing is, a lot of people are saying Vince coming back, well, because of the whole TKO and the ticket pricing, we can talk about that TKO and ticket pricing has been ridiculous, right. And they're saying that when Vince was around, the one thing that Vince understood is that you need ticket pricing to relate and to connect with families. And TKO saying we're not maximizing ticket pricing like the UFC does. The UFC is a completely different area of.
Speaker 2:It attracts a different genre and a different grouping of people.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and most of those grouping of people, yeah, and most of those people got money.
Speaker 2:This attracts, like your betting people. Yeah, you know your fucking tile jocks and shit. Like to this statement that you brought up, right, mm-hmm, someone did like a average ticket price of like I think it was like WrestleMania the last time WrestleMania was in Orlando, I think they actually did right the average ticket price. When you take the most expensive ticket and the cheapest ticket and you do the average together, the average ticket price was $500. I think the last Wrestlemania the average ticket price is $1,200. Average ticket price $1,200 compared to the average being $500.
Speaker 1:The thing about that now is, when they do that, it makes WrestleMania like a once-in-a-lifetime thing. You're not going to do that every time. I remember when wrestlemania, people would fly from all over the world to go to mania.
Speaker 2:And it can still afford it 200 000 miles to be here at wrestlemania god forbid you do that shit now I sold all of my children. Speaking of mania five loans sold my house and the devil has a contract with me to be here at WrestleMania.
Speaker 1:I'm literally going to the afterlife after the show. I'm literally going to the afterlife after the show.
Speaker 2:Speaking of, I literally have to give up my heart when this night is over, so I could be here at this show.
Speaker 1:Could you imagine that, though, as the fireworks are going off and you're just like, and also you just get that hand on your shoulder, like in that meme, the smile meme, it's just, it's just him.
Speaker 2:And then the grim reaper, like, you know what time it is right hold the fucking, hold the fucking slice, like bro, what it I'm, I have to, I cope. I've been poked with the fact that I have to. I've been poked with the fact that Three WrestleManias is going to be it for me, unless something changes. And granted, I feel it's going to be a minute before anything will change, but I feel eventually something will happen. Because when you think about wrestling, right and and I and a lot of people say the fact that you know, wrestling is meant for people like you and I, you know I'm saying yep, lower middle class folk who just want to watch something that's entertaining. You know what I'm saying? That's the original demographic for wrestling. Rich people don't give a fuck about wrestling, unless they're celebrities. But, and even then, the celebrities who give a fuck about wrestling are the celebrities who grew up poor in the lower middle class, watching it on TV. Those are the people who like wrestling and the only difference is the fact that they just so, happeningly, was able to get famous enough and got a couple of movies under their belt. But, like when you look at the people who are like there's your fake wrestling fan, but then there's your real wrestling fan. You know what I'm saying Look at Kelly Rhodes.
Speaker 2:Do you see where he came from? Yeah, that's a wrestling fan. Stephen Amell. He talks about where he came from. He talks about how he grew up in there. That's a wrestling fan. Pony B A whole ass stripper. That's a wrestling fan. That's what a wrestling fan looks like, but that's's a wrestling fan. That's what a wrestling fan looks like, but that's just a wrestling fan who made it in life. That's why they didn't get to sit in the front row. Us people, us normal people who haven't necessarily made it like that, we can't go and enjoy the thing that we love the most and instead some rich person who doesn't even actually give a fuck about what's happening in the ring is sitting in our cheap seats because they got stock in the wrestling show. God forbid.
Speaker 1:God forbid, god forbid if you was a green shirt guy. What I wanted to get at, though, is how do you feel about WrestleMania going to Saudi?
Speaker 2:The same way I feel about WrestleMania being in Las Vegas for a second time. I ain't gonna be there, so just watch it on TV.
Speaker 1:Do you feel like the product is going to be? Obviously, you have Crown Jewel, we have all those events that's been there. Do you feel like the product is not going to be as good because it's in Saudi?
Speaker 2:Do I not think it's going to be as when you say it's not going to be as good?
Speaker 1:in what way? So obviously there's a lot of politics and certain things they cannot do while they're obviously in Saudi, one being the women's matches and how they're presented and stuff like that. I mean we still got women's matches, how they're presented and stuff like that. I mean we still got women's matches we do. What I'm saying is they're the Saudi, it's sponsored by the Saudi government. It's not like um, it's not like uh, you know, hey, we go over here, we do whatever we want, but like they also want to dictate WrestleMania. Because if you saw Crown Jewel and everything, normally they're want like WWE's gonna want to create programs that's based on the next WrestleMania, but Saudis want to be like ah, I get that, but I want to see these two motherfuckers wrestling. We're putting this much money down, so we better see these two motherfuckers wrestle.
Speaker 2:I told myself that WrestleMania and Saudi Us WrestleMania and Saudi Arabia in the way that, because I've heard the whole fact that they're trying to get all these different people to want to come back and maybe have one more match.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like Shawn Michaels. Apparently they're trying to get Shawn Michaels in there.
Speaker 2:They're trying to do all this pick and choosing and I want to see this, this, this, and I'm like man the way that this sounds, the way that this seems and feels is almost like if New Japan was going to have a show specifically just for the yakuza's. You know what I'm?
Speaker 1:saying they have done that though?
Speaker 2:uh, exactly, yeah, they have done that and so they're being there and and it's like the Yakuza probably paid them very, very well, like this is all about this. This is all about money. When almost half a billion dollars WWE is getting paid, we are getting Saudi Arabia is getting SummerSlam and it's not sorry, it's getting WrestleMania. We are getting Saudi Arabia is getting SummerSlam and it's not sorry, it's getting WrestleMania. I was about to say SummerSlam. I mean I'm sure they will, but it's like Saudi Arabia is getting WrestleMania before the faithful British people, our faithful European people, who have been fighting for WrestleMania for years, got outbid and outbidded by blood oil money.
Speaker 1:Okay, but here's the thing. Here's the thing. Would you be okay, knowing that you don't like that crowd? Would you be okay with them? One, two, three. Every two count. Every two count them. The one, two like. Every two count. Every two count WrestleMania. You cool with that? What?
Speaker 2:European people.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, what they're doing. The one two, it was just two, it was just two, it was just two. The whole pay-per-view, the whole pay. I mean, would you be okay with that as a Wrestlemania?
Speaker 2:see, the problem is I wouldn't care because it's never gonna happen, number one. But then it's like, let me put it this way, the shenanigans that they do has spilled over into my AEW now. Okay, so at this point I just have to tune it out Like would I be. I mean, for all intents and purposes, selfishly. I guess you could say no, because I would want WrestleMania to just come back to Florida, because we still got like great stadiums that you can have WrestleMania in, so that I could have gone. But now, if they came back to Florida, I wouldn't be able to afford it no way.
Speaker 1:Like, if you started saving for the next two years, you might have a chance.
Speaker 2:Bro, the money that I could use to just take myself. That's not even accounting for my family. All right, I have pretty much a wife and a child. Okay For me to take all of that to WrestleMania. I could just put them in a house.
Speaker 1:He's not lying, y'all.
Speaker 2:I could put them in a house, I could take them around the city in a nicer, newer and much safer car than what I have right now, as opposed to taking all of us for one night my brother, not two.
Speaker 1:One night of WrestleMania In the cheap seats, nosebleeds, my guy would you would prefer night one or night two, night one or night two a house and a roof over my head and their head.
Speaker 2:You can buy. You can buy a bigger screen and a roof over my head and their head going around the table. You can buy a bigger screen. Matter of fact fuck that I could buy. With the money that it would cost to take all of us to WrestleMania, I could buy a 20K big screen TV.
Speaker 1:Another thing you could do, which I was going to ask you about. They have the movie theaters. That's doing Wrestlepalooza, they do those. As for Mania, too and that's even a better option, because you're still with your wrestling fans that's what you really are going there for, too, is, outside of just watching it live, it's being in the audience, in the crowd, in the energy how many people are in our group chat uh, I want to say 12 12, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll go as far as even saying 15.
Speaker 2:There's 15 guys in our group. Chat, right? You bring your wife, I'd have mine and my kid. I could bring my mom. You know what I'm saying. My mom could bring some friends. I already know where you're going with this. You know that house that I decided to buy instead of going to WrestleMania. I have a really nice big TV right here in front of me In my brand new house. I can invite all of my friends. I can bake some lasagna. We could get some pizza. I have a liquor shelf, which is probably cheaper than the beers that you know how much you putting on this house.
Speaker 1:My nigga, I'm sorry you got a liquor shelf listen.
Speaker 2:I'm not even in my own house right now, when I got a liquor shelf brother.
Speaker 1:I'm thinking of a more inclusive one, because, knowing you, it would be definitely more inclusive.
Speaker 2:With the money that I would be shelling out for WrestleMania, I probably could have a nice in-wall built liquor shelf oh my God. Lick of shelf, oh my God, especially for the next time that they actually come here to Florida, which we know it ain't going to be next year, it ain't going to be the year after that, and I could go on to the limb and say that it's probably not going to be the year after that.
Speaker 2:So with that being said, look fam, if I started saving right now for that, what is that? What? We're 35, right?
Speaker 1:now we're turning 35 this year. For me, I'm turning, god damn it.
Speaker 2:What next year's resume is what? 33?, 37. I'm sorry, 40, no, no, Next year's WrestleMania is 43 43 44, 45, 46, 47, 48.
Speaker 2:WrestleMania 50. If I started saving up my money right now for WrestleMania 50 as long as nothing happens in this crazy United States that we've been living in for the last week as well, I'm pretty sure I can invite all of my family. You can invite some of your family, your possible kids you may accidentally have down the line. You can bring him as well. You can bring them. My friends can bring. Everyone in our group chat can bring their wives and their child, if they have one by that time.
Speaker 2:We can have ourselves a big WrestleMania party at my house for the price ofmania, for the nosebleed matter of fact, fuck that.
Speaker 1:Everybody would contribute to that.
Speaker 2:Like not even just the financial part of that shit is just like on you like just imagine if we all at that point we could rent an airbnb mansion and watch Wrestlemania exclusively in a big ass, in some big ass hot tub somewhere. You know why.
Speaker 1:B-Mansion Ayo, legit shit, I might be down for that.
Speaker 2:I ain't no way that might actually be a thing, instead of all of us spending like $10,000 for two nights sitting right next to the spotlight on top of the stadium.
Speaker 1:I'm going to have to do some research on that. I ain't going to lie, I ain't going to cap just a weekend of like alright, we all consumer wrestling all this weekend in the Airbnb. We got TVs going on every part of wrestling. We got NXT here. You got AEW, because they know they're going to counter program. You have that over here. You got TNA here. You got Game Changer Wrestling here because they're going to do stuff for WrestleMania weekend too. And then you got WWE on the big fucking screen. It's just going to do stuff for Wrestlemania weekend too. And then you got WWE on the big fucking screen.
Speaker 2:It's just going to be a network of wrestling you won't be able to leave for less money than those leads for less money. That is the state of wrestling. Yes, that's where we're at, and what's worse is the fact that the price keeps on going up and the quality keeps going down.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, it does like cause.
Speaker 2:I had the subject of myself of watching people wrestle for fake money. No stories, no reasons why. What are you looking at me like that for for fake money? No stories, no reasons why. What are you looking at me?
Speaker 1:like that, for I'm trying to remember. Oh, gmo, fake money, bro. Gmo, gmo, gmo.
Speaker 2:No, not GMO. What are you talking about? What's my fake money? What's my fake money? Aew.
Speaker 1:The Young Bucks oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, okay, yeah, wow, you really. No, I watched it. No, I did. No, I did I just. When you talk about fake no, when you would talk about fake money, in a sense because you always like doing GMO. So I was thinking you were just reverting back to GM mode for a second Because that's just like your default. Okay, I was hella confused. This is real fake money, bro. Oh, no, that was fake money. Yes, it's just my brain went to immediate GM mode for you Because that's kind of like your default on what you're doing. I didn't process the fact you were talking about that match.
Speaker 2:Oh, no, no, and not just that match. There was two matches. There was two fake money matches, fake money all-star matches, bro and you know what's going to happen. It's actually already been announced there's going to be another fake money's all-star match coming up soon.
Speaker 1:I don't know what Tony Khan thinks about that Like they're fighting for $100,000. I don't, man, I really care about how the money they're going to win that. I wish I could have that that either one is not real money. And I remember where, um, there was a a battle Royal that hang man one and he gave his money to Chicago schools. Uh, for charity. Charity because he used to be a funny. It was a funny thing, interesting thing. Hangman used to be a high school teacher and I was like, and I was like man, no, you couldn't, because as a person who has worked in high schools and as a caliber of a person, is boy one or two things. He would have to be knocking them kids upside their head or he gonna have a lot.
Speaker 2:What you thinking man was out here doing buckshot lyrics to his students.
Speaker 1:Man, look man, if they were acting up he would be like yo, just from across his desk, he would just flip. He just Just from across his desk.
Speaker 2:That's a hell of a visual. That is a hell of a visual.
Speaker 1:We get shit like that on the All-Stars, wwe All-Stars. Who says it can't happen in real life, anyway? But that's Sas's point. What I'm trying to say is these fake money matches. I don't know if Tony Khan believes they're like oh man, these are a spectacle, just like, oh, they're fighting for a title. I don't know what it is for him. Maybe because he has money, he thinks yo fighting for money, I'd do that in real life. Yeah, I don't know what it is. I don't know what it turns him on about fighting for money, especially fake money, but it is annoying.
Speaker 2:And then it's like the people who have fought for these fake money matches a lot of them have been in these matches more than once, these all. And then it's like before it was fake money matches and then they were all-star matches. Now they're all-star fake money matches and the way they present them is all like yeah, no, this is a big deal, it's a big fucking deal. $50,000. Half a million dollars right here, to split between 10 people or, I'm sorry, 5 people type thing, which, that's the 100 for each person. That's a lot of money. At that point, why are these motherfuckers still wrestling like that?
Speaker 1:investment like $100,000, bro, I'll do more than fight for $100,000 that reminds me of that meme where that dude said it was like a million dollars a backstroke, said you gonna have to fight, you gonna have to, you gonna have to get him up out of me, or some shit like that. It's a dastardly fucking meme, dastardly. You're going to have to get him up out of me, or some shit like that. It's a dastardly fucking meme, dastardly.
Speaker 2:Listen, I don't think there's a nigga in this universe who is proud of what they would do for such large amounts of dollars.
Speaker 1:I'm not taking back shots, I know that much.
Speaker 2:It's crazy out here in these streets, bro, very much but really now I will say, though the only thing that was good of wrestling that happened this week I think literally that I've watched that was at least entertaining and not really bad was the AAA pick. That shit was good.
Speaker 1:As much as we talked about everything tonight, the fact that Dominic fucking Mysterio is the AAA champion it warms my fucking heart. And you know what? That man is such a good goddamn heel that when his dad's trying to put the belt around him, like like yeah, he's probably like in his, in his spirit I want to cry with my dad and hug him. No, no, no, put the fucking belt on me. All right. I said, put it on me around my waist and you can look at ray, he's like I gotta, I gotta keep kayfabe, but I want to hug you right now, bro. He said, no, fuck that, put the belt on me Just so I could take it off and hold it up. I'm so proud of Dominic man, like damn, he's like one of the only like I know there's other kids like Randy Orton and stuff like that but like he's such an organic like talent to see him grow as a child and then see him here now basically being Eddie Guerrero 2.0 or his real daddy and shining the way he is right now.
Speaker 2:I'll give it to him. He's doing his thing right now.
Speaker 1:Like.
Speaker 2:I only saw like bits and pieces of the match, like that's literally the last match that I was supposed to watch but I didn't get around to it, kind of thing. I may still go back and just watch to see how it went down, because I know there was some big American energy that was going on. You want?
Speaker 1:me to spoil it. I can spoil it and tell you straight up.
Speaker 2:I knew he won.
Speaker 1:In a nutshell Green Manicano sends him the plate, big Mayor, he puts his mask on, hits him with a headbutt Frog splash. The same finish as any situation with Americano Give him the plate, put it in his forehead, headbutt, get the pin. That's literally what it is.
Speaker 2:Got it. I mean, although it's like now, I'm just all like he's going to be insufferable. He's got the big, he's the heavyweightufferable bro if he don't go. He's got the big, he's the heavyweight champion of that brand and he better go on Raw with the strap oh, of course he is. That's the goal, that's the deal.
Speaker 1:I will say, I will say this much, and this is not the AAA I don't like the belt, the way the belt looks, I mean, I don't have a problem with the way the belt looks.
Speaker 2:For me, the way that the belt looks, it's the leather, it's really the leather.
Speaker 1:The plates are fine. The leather it's really the leather. The plates are fine. The leather looks the leather. Okay, looking at the equivalent of what we see in WWE titles and how it's like one band and the band kind of just keeps it together, the AAA title does look very old, like the leather is very old. There's nothing wrong with that. It just it kind of throws me off. I don't know, that's just me the.
Speaker 2:To me, the triple a title. What it reminds me of as far as it looks. It reminds me of when you look at boxing heavyweight belts literally, yeah, and so it's so for all intents and purposes.
Speaker 2:To me, it's fine because it just looks like it's an authentic belt yes, it looks like an authentic heavyweight title Because, like WWE, aew, tna, like, their titles are very Wrestling oriented yes, I was actually going to say are very sports, entertained, as where their title it's more like. As where their title it's more like it has that look of like, it has that prestige. Look to it that you know like, because New Japan titles come off to me that way as well. Granted, some of their titles do have that. You know that gaudy, you know entertainment.
Speaker 1:Look to it it used to Well, now it does yeah.
Speaker 2:But some of them, like though they're like they got that entertainment bit to them. Excuse me, they still have that. Uh that, uh, that sport, you know, uh, champion fucking. Um, there's another word I wanted to use. But uh, sport, you know, champion fucking, there's another word.
Speaker 2:I want to use, but it's got that. Not sports entertainment, but it's like. There's a word that I want to use but I can't think of what that word is, but for lack of better terms, it's but, but for lack of better terms, you know it's. It's got that more. Uh, that more sports championship, you know trophy, look to it, you know it, it's more it has, that it has a bit more of like a trophy. Look for it, as opposed to like, you know that, sports entertainment. Like I look at someone who would be walking around with that AAA title and I would think that they was like some heavyweight boxer or something like that, walking around, freaking, getting paid out the wazoo because they're that big stuff or whatever. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:My favorite belt and I feel like closing notes favorite belt is still going to be the iwgp heavyweight title for new japan that belt. And knowing that our homeboy got it, I'm just like nigga. I don't like you right now. I want this belt so fucking bad, that belt and the lucha. Well, at one point I wanted the lucha underground title but the belt and the Lucha. At one point I wanted the Lucha Underground title but the Gift of the Gods belt definitely won them. Whenever you start watching, I think you did see at least the Gift of the Gods title, right, yeah, yeah, those two belts were definitely like Won those belts. I think your favorite one at one point was the old TNA one with the.
Speaker 2:Not the original. Listen, listen the t. Yes, not the original, like when tna kind of freaking the belt that, bobby roode, yes, that was your belt tna belt, that the the tna big gold yeah I'm off chain.
Speaker 1:God do miss that version of bobby roode. God damn, yes. I'm off chain. God damn it. Ovc, I do miss that version of Bobby Roode, god damn, yes.
Speaker 2:I still wish I could get it. Funny enough, I actually on my Google Chrome right now. I actually still have the original link that I have. There was a wrestling site that I randomly found that belt on and I'm like I'm going to buy that shit and I saved the link on my bookmarks. You know, like on my bookmarks, and to this day the link is still there, but whenever you click on the link it is no longer found.
Speaker 1:Oh, I can find that belt bill. I can find that bill for you for sure.
Speaker 2:Oh, I'm sure, but don't do that because I I have no money. I'm broke, bitch, I'm broke, that's why that's me. Oh, goodness, but yeah, that was the only thing good about wrestling this week. Who cares about Saudi Arabia? Matt Rills, a fucking idiot. Goodness, but yeah, that was the only thing good about wrestling this week. Who cares about Saudi Arabia? Matt Rills, the fucking idiot, fucking.
Speaker 1:Oh God, yeah, I'm not talking about that. I mean I did want to at some point talk about the Rajah situation, but I wanted everything to kind of solidify and that's finding out a final form of what has happened. Quick shout out to Psycho.
Speaker 2:I think at this point, I think it's about done at this point. It is I actually have not heard an update on it, so that's how I'm looking.
Speaker 1:Psycho said he's back up. He's doing well. Excuse me sorry, psycho, said he Psycho Stu.
Speaker 2:Psycho said he better not be back up.
Speaker 1:You know what? And remembering his theme song Psycho Stu.
Speaker 2:I need him to respectfully rest in peace. I don't need him coming back up.
Speaker 1:Psycho Stu is back up and he's doing good. Raja hasn't made any statements. There's still an ongoing investigation. The guy who told him you know, hey, get your receipt. He lost his job and he basically is not able to wrestle. He's blacklisted currently. A lot of stuff has been going on, but hey, that like I said before.
Speaker 2:Uh, I, I think I said I said to you outside of the outside of the thing, but I'm like fam, everyone who was involved with that lost the bag hard, very much so their pockets are crippled To lose your job and to lose your wrestling career in that area. Damn, that's no money, right? You're broke bro.
Speaker 1:Not much money, you just money, you just you, just you are unhappy. Like if somebody had and I hate to say this, if somebody had a 13's reasons, this would be, oh man, like it's literally like damn bro, you can't do shit now To be canceled. Like it's such a scary thing in this day and age that you can't do a fucking thing. A fucking thing. Listen.
Speaker 2:I mean, unless you think you're Matt Riddle who feels like he can't be canceled, but because he has an older face now. Or unless you're Brock Lesnar, who apparently can't be canceled, but Because he has an only chance now, or unless you're Brock Lesnar, who apparently can't be canceled either. I'm surprised that. I'm surprised there were no. You like piss chants or something like that.
Speaker 1:Oh, for Brock. Yes, you know it's crazy. I mean, no, I get what you're saying for Brock, but like it's crazy. You say that because even with Tessa Blanchard getting like she's all racist and like.
Speaker 2:I don't know she got all that, but ain't no Everyone out here just gonna Everyone out here just turning the blind eye for Brock Lesnar right now, because it's fucking Brock and everybody wants Brock.
Speaker 1:Lesnar, right, Because it's fucking Brock and everybody wants Brock. You saw how Story had a complete hard-on when that fucker came out. Complete, complete erection, Full, full, full send. Okay, Full send. That was that man. Yeah, yeah for Brock Lesnar indeed by the fact the Brock Lesnar guy. I will never forget the cringe we can't be dogging a story like that.
Speaker 2:He's not here to defend himself like he ain't no defending.
Speaker 1:He'd be like y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all. Because he did that again when we brought it up last time he was like y'all, I was doing that, y'all.
Speaker 2:Listen. All he's got to do is get Brock Lesnar's number and send him to the photos. Brock Lesnar.
Speaker 1:Crazy, crazy.
Speaker 2:Hey, yo wrap this shit up, dog.
Speaker 1:All right, so as always, Scott.
Speaker 2:Oh God.
Speaker 1:Please. The referee isn't present. He doesn't see the tap Jesus Christ man. So, guys, as always, you know I don't think we have any final notes, but we definitely appreciate you guys being here. If you haven't already, please chokeslam the like button and tombstone the subscribe button. We're here every week giving our tidbits and thoughts about wrestling cause as always, even if the wrestling has been absolutely dogged that is true, but we have to do another Bump Booker Berry episode because apparently those clips are getting a lot of notoriety and that actually was really fun.
Speaker 2:Listen with the way that wrestling is going. That's a lot more entertaining than us talking about how dog shit wrestling is.
Speaker 1:Actually, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 2:I would rather be BB than sit here and watch another collision like I watched the other night. Jesus, I'm not running around here slapping girls in the ass with a fucking holding tongs and a goddamn spatula. Say the thing.
Speaker 1:And wrestlers can like Mr Iguana. Anyway, as always, the ring is sacred, the questions are real, the destruction is guaranteed, it's the Masa-Ku.
Speaker 2:It's your boy Swag switcher in the building and Mr Iguana is better than all the shit. Oh my god, we're out of here okay get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 1:We're out, guys. See you next time you.