Where's the Damn Story?

Story makes the match. We dig into why this week’s wrestling felt like “Snoozeville” in places and electric in others, from John Cena’s farewell rumors and a likely no-payoff Brock angle to the eyebrow-raising reality of $32k front-row seats at WrestleMania. We talk city hosting fees, Peacock’s Saturday Night Main Event pivot, and the harder truth sitting behind all of it: fans want meaning, not just motion.

On Raw, the EO–Asuka–Rhea triangle proves how much mileage you get when character beats come first. Seth vs Cody shows you can build real stakes without putting a title on the line—history and pride are enough when you honor them. Then we tackle the main-event bottleneck that boxes out talents like Carmelo Hayes, why a protected finisher like Sami’s Blue Thunder Bomb suddenly matters, and what a bold rocket-strap to a monster like Oba Femi could do to refresh the landscape overnight.

AEW’s sixth anniversary brings the contrasts into focus: Andrade’s return hits, Toni Storm commands attention even through “What?” chants, and Statlander’s character pivots back to alien. Yet the Don Callis Family keeps growing without collecting the gold that would justify the bloat, and the Death Riders’ identity drifts between “sicko spectacle” and serious contenders. We argue for fewer purposeless matches, more managers as mouthpieces, and a revival of finishers that actually end fights. The indie chaos of MLW even sneaks in to remind us why risk, surprise, and clear motives still hook an audience.

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Chapters

• 0:13 Opening Banter & Meme-Level Snoozeville
• 1:09 Cena’s Retirement Rumors & Brock “No Lick Back”
• 2:39 Saturday Night Main Event on Peacock
• 3:46 Why Cities Pay WWE to Show Up
• 6:35 WrestleMania Economics & Wild Ticket Prices
• 11:10 The Common Fan Is Priced Out
• 12:58 Luchadors, Language, and Booking Bias
• 17:54 Asuka, Iyo, Kairi: Managers and Mouthpieces
• 22:29 Nakamura’s Slide & Accents on TV
• 26:55 Raw Highlights: EO, Asuka, Rhea—Actual Story
• 30:10 Seth vs Cody: Stakes Without Belts
• 36:15 SmackDown Notes: Mellow Don’t Miss… But Booking Does
• 41:56 The Main-Event Ceiling Problem
• 46:08 Oba Femi Rocket-Strap Fantasy Booking
• 51:05 Finishers That Matter: Blue Thunder Bomb Return
• 54:18 Sidebars: ECW, RVD, and “Sicko” Matches
• 57:14 Must-See vs Mid: TV Beats PLEs?
• 1:01:39 AEW’s Sixth Anniversary: Action Without Reason
• 1:07:02 Don Callis Family Bloat & Andrade/El Con
• 1:12:08 Toni Storm “What?” Chants & Statlander Reset
• 1:16:20 Death Riders, “Winners,” and Identity Drift
• 1:20:09 MLW Chaos: Skyscrapers, Electric Chair Gimmicks
• 1:25:45 Indies as Purgatory & Proving Grounds
• 1:29:20 Riddle Headlines & Personal Anecdotes
• 1:33:44 Final Take: Bring Stories Back or Bring Pillows

Transcript

SPEAKER_00: 0:13

Uh welcome to another episode of the Big Brothers of Destruction podcast. It's the Masaku.

SPEAKER_01: 0:18

It's your boy.

SPEAKER_00: 0:19

Swag Switcher in the building. And man, we are here just to talk about the wild, wacky world of wrestling and just what we have seen this week. And this week has been no different than it has been anywhere else. It is Snoozeville. We've been literally sending us each other this meme. Yeah, we gotta we gotta share it with y'all eventually. I mean I'll post it. I'll post it every once in a while. Like whenever we show the meme, it's like the just the knockout.

SPEAKER_01: 0:49

So when it comes to this week, before I even start talking about this week, I don't know if this how true it is, or like I have not found any more, like uh what's the one I'm looking for? Uh facts or uh yeah, concrete evidence. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But uh going into our friend who is retiring John Cena here. Damn, I ain't got my Cena shirts no more. I've heard that John Cena is not gonna get his lick back on Brock Lesnar. No.

SPEAKER_00: 1:30

So you've heard that too. Yes. That was a one-off situation. What are your thoughts on this? You know, I'm gonna say a quote from the good old AJ Styles. Apparently, it was beat up John Cena Day. And uh, that's literally what the world is saying and what they're cool with right now. I myself, um, what what else are you supposed to do about it? Like, just deal with it, bro. It's stupid. But they have already fumbled this fucking run. They have already fumbled it. What else can you do?

SPEAKER_01: 2:05

I've had been battling with myself, but I think I've officially decided I'm gonna just wait. Because when I first heard this information, I thought to myself that, you know, maybe I should make a video. I thought about making a video talking about it and giving my feels on the whole John Cena experience as it is. But what I think I'm going to do is I'm gonna wait. I'm going to wait till after night. What is that? Uh Saturday night main event. I'm gonna wait till after Saturday night main event. Let's talk about that real quick.

SPEAKER_00: 2:44

How the fuck do you feel about it being a televised event where commercials can happen just like Goldberg's situation? Like that's stupid.

SPEAKER_01: 2:53

Now, I think they're actually I think I do believe that's been remedied because it's fucking John Cena. No, well, because Saturday Night Main event is no longer going to be played on regular television, like tele regular televised TV. It's gonna only be on I believe it's Peacock.

SPEAKER_00: 3:14

Man, I just stopped my subscription.

SPEAKER_01: 3:17

It's alright.

SPEAKER_00: 3:17

If you uh as you said, Stephanie, use the VPN. Use the VPN, you'll see it. And can we get sponsored by Shark? Please or you know Por favore. Any any VPN. You know what I'm saying? We are starting business and uh we need some kind of some kind of push. But appreciate you.

SPEAKER_01: 3:35

We we we we mess with it. VPN for the whim.

SPEAKER_00: 3:39

Because we could definitely use an editor, uh besides me.

SPEAKER_01: 3:45

But yeah, so it's like as far as how I feel about it being on that, like, that's where his last match is gonna be. It's gonna be in Washington because apparently uh Massachusetts didn't want to fork up enough bread. So it's like or fuck it up. Well, I don't think that Massachusetts would mess it up. It's like it's just it's to me, from what I've heard now, is the fact that Massachusetts didn't want to pay WWE enough. And Washington was all like, nah, y'all can have that here. Here's that money. Which I recently actually got done talking to uh uh my roommate about it, because I was like, I didn't I was not understanding the whole concept of how you get paid to show up in somebody's location to further get paid to perform.

SPEAKER_00: 4:47

So um, to my knowledge, and and correct me if I'm wrong, it's basically like saying, like, yo, we want you at our location because it's going to bring people here. They are going to want to spend money, and therefore, yes, we are spending money to make you, hey, we want that pay-per-view here because we know people will come here. That's it's kind of it's kind of how that works, to my knowledge.

SPEAKER_01: 5:08

Which that is exactly what it is. It's pretty much it's like we give WWE a whole bunch of money to show up in our city for a week because the money that they're giving WWE after a week goes by, they're gonna make that money back for the whole city because WWE is such an attraction, it brings so much more dollars and so much more eyes to their city and to that place where they're having whatever event that they're doing.

SPEAKER_00: 5:44

Yeah, because it's like businesses get paid, which therefore they get back to the city because tax and all that kind of stuff, exactly. Yeah, or attractions or things of that nature.

SPEAKER_01: 5:52

And so, and I was talking about with WrestleMania, right? How it's in Las Vegas, and I'm like, when you think about how much money goes in WWE are going to make. All right, so think of it this way, right? Because like WWE is getting a bunch of money from Las Vegas for them to have WrestleMania there. Cool. Now, that money that Las Vegas gave, they're going to make it back because so many people are going to be coming to Las Vegas to watch the show. Yep. But then I was thinking about how much money WWE is about to make, because granted, when WWE gets there, they still have to pay, you know, like whatever the little state tax stuff is, if there is any, and then they gotta pay for the venue and all and pay for the people who are going to be working at the venue and all this other stuff. But it's like when I think about how much money that could possibly cost, I then start thinking about how much money it costs just for the front row alone at WrestleMania. And for those who have not seen or have heard. Oh, I put it on the last episode. Yes, because I know we talked about it. But if you have not watched our last episode, you should. But it but throughout the the the ether of the wrestling annals right now, there are videos of people recording themselves going to Ticketmaster, looking up the price for the front row tickets and seeing how much it costs. And so, as we know, for one person front row, two nights, thirty-two thousand plus dollars. Okay, so when you think about one night, okay, thirty-two thousand dollars, that is two people in the front row, thirty-two thousand dollars, right? I do believe the rough uh the rough. So wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

SPEAKER_00: 8:03

So the tickets, so the tickets together is thirty-two thousand.

SPEAKER_01: 8:07

So that is one. So if you and I wanted to go for one night, the combination of the money that you and I are spending to sit in a front row seat is$32,000 for one night between the both of us.

SPEAKER_00: 8:23

Oh, yeah, because we had the conversation about basically doubling that, which technically is$64,000. That is yearly salary for some people.

SPEAKER_01: 8:31

So$64,000 is what it would cost for the both of us to sit front row for one night.

SPEAKER_00: 8:40

Well, yeah, that's for one night. No, that's for two. Well, no, well, I would I calculate it because you you brought up the fact it's 32 for both. Yeah. So that calculated 64. Oh, that's that's oh yeah. So yeah, that's one night. But either way, if it was two nights, it's still the same amount.

SPEAKER_01: 8:54

So I was like, I think so. For one night of people sitting in the front row, I do believe that this it's pretty much is about like what like six people, I think it was. Three, six, nine. About six people, that's for one night, six people equals a million dollars in money that they're earning for people sitting in the front row. Jesus.

SPEAKER_00: 9:21

Now we count that for how big is the stadium? Normally 71,000 people sometimes.

SPEAKER_01: 9:27

Yes, and I'm sure those front who who knows how many specific front row tickets there are, but they are easily banking just on the front row. Millions of dollars on just front row seaters, and this isn't talking about any other seat that is in the goddamn building. So when you look at the million dollars, the I would I'll I will push to say uh I will go low. 50 million dollars on of m 50 million dollars on one night, they are probably making on front row tickets. Fifty mil. Fifty million front row, god damn, and that's roughly maybe a hundred people. There is still what seventy thousand seventy-seven such and such thousand more people to account for that spent those tickets, and this is still talking about one night. There's two there's two nights, bro. Where are they putting this money? What are they doing with it? And the better question is who are they gonna fire after WrestleMania is done?

SPEAKER_00: 10:49

Because they always clean house afterwards. That is true, because they they say it's budget cuts.

SPEAKER_01: 10:57

I wish they would.

SPEAKER_00: 11:00

I will I wish they would say after this WrestleMania that the budget budget cuts for ridiculous is to say the least that to be a wrestling fan now, we already have to spend almost$300 a year to just watch wrestling. Okay, and then now you're talking about even going to an event where we potentially may even spend half our yearly salary just to be there for one night, by the way.

SPEAKER_01: 11:33

I I I hate to repeat myself, but which by the way, I when I when I check, those tickets are gone.

SPEAKER_00: 11:40

Well, also, well, green shirt probably. Green shirts already there. You know that's funny. I made a I made a rap lyric about that. I said I'm the front man like green shirt and my and my pockets heavy like green shirts. Only wrestling fans will get that.

SPEAKER_01: 11:59

But not the WrestleMania, not the WrestleMania ones. I actually have not checked to see if all of those are taken. However, he's definitely got one. Oh, I'm sure he's gotten one. Fuck. But but I do know that people are crazily paying this money for these tickets. But the thing that I was going to say was that uh even the smaller local shows like SmackDown, Raw. You still gotta pay for those Raw, the the Raw after uh Mania 2. Oh my god. I don't know. I I'm pretty certain I said this on the last one, but I'm gonna say it again. When I looked up after getting the email of Raw saying, Hey, we're gonna be in your city in December, come check the ticket prices, to literally touch the back wall of the stadium, the high, high nosebleeds. For those who uh for the for the Floridians who watch this and they know about the Kia Center and Way, uh, we're talking about row uh 210. You know what I'm saying? The fact that you know the damn rows. I've been there enough. Oh, I know. Same was like row 210, touching the touching the back of the back wall. God damn. Jump high enough you might be able to touch the ceiling was$107. And that was before, that's before tax.

SPEAKER_00: 13:22

Back in the day, those used to be like a$50 ticket. Cheaper than$50? Yeah. Listen, for what? I th I think TD Waterhouse, man, back in the day. Oh my god, TD Waterhouse. Fail.$100 used to get you on the floor. You ride.

SPEAKER_01: 13:39

$100 used to get you on the floor. You ride. I know when we used to at least if not two to three. When we used to go, like one of the times I know you and me, we went, we fucking, what was it? We probably spent.

SPEAKER_00: 13:52

You talking about the time all three of uh all four of us got together, we went and we brought our belts and stuff. And we got middle row, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 13:59

Yeah, that middle row was like two something. Nah, it wasn't even a hundred, it wasn't even two hundred or anything. Nah, it was it was it was it was I want to say when when ta when taxes was added, it became 100.

SPEAKER_00: 14:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 14:14

But initially it was like they were probably like like 75, 80 bucks. And that was to get like maybe like four four levels before floor. Yeah, floor. We was like really, really close. Four levels before floor. And then I know one time, me and my mom one time, we spent what 30, uh, we spent like because we showed up there and bought them at the uh the door? At the door before uh like after everything and right before the show was gonna start. And we was able to get tickets. We spent like what, maybe like 40 bucks.

SPEAKER_00: 14:49

And y'all got the back rows?

SPEAKER_01: 14:51

Back row in the middle section. Great seating. Could see everything and still enjoy. But 170 bucks, one have 107 dollars and uh and and way fees. So those tickets probably cost like maybe like 130 when you add the tax, the service fees, da-da-da.

SPEAKER_00: 15:13

Gratuity.

SPEAKER_01: 15:13

Wait, I mean, probably convenience fee goes into all of that. And that's not including if you're trying to use the ticket for parking, which part is also gonna be like 30 something bucks.

SPEAKER_00: 15:26

Now, you had those people that would try to sell tickets too while they were there as well.

SPEAKER_01: 15:30

Listen, I this is the time to be a scalper. Well, actually, I feel as if you used to be able to make more money as a scalper. Now, hell no, that's a gamble.

SPEAKER_00: 15:40

No, that's that's literally a gamble.

SPEAKER_01: 15:42

If someone went and bought a whole bunch of WrestleMania tickets, if they don't sell those bitches, they're going to be bad, they're going to be fucked. They bankrupt that shit. You about to say it bankrupt, motherfucker.

SPEAKER_00: 15:55

Say that shit. For real, it's it's bad.

SPEAKER_01: 15:59

The common man that made wrestling what it is right now can't afford to go to it.

SPEAKER_00: 16:06

Yep. And it's it is the worst. You know what else was bad? This week of wrestling. So, uh, well, there's a couple of things that were really cool. I what was really cool? The Javon Evans and um uh Phoenix situation. That was a good match.

SPEAKER_01: 16:24

How do you feel about your boy Ray Phoenix out here right now?

SPEAKER_00: 16:28

He's getting dirty. He's getting done dirty like my boy Pinta. Speaking of Pinta, yeah, you know what? Here's what I told you from the jump. I told you when he came here, they are not going to put major titles on him because Pinta is a legend who does not need a belt. Every promotion, for some reason, just does not understand that as wrestling fans, we want a belt on Pinta. But here's the thing they'd be like, well, if he just does this and the audience is already hype, he doesn't need the belt. And it's like, no, we want a belt on him. Like Lucha Underground got that, and they kept him the belt for kept him the champion for almost the rest of the promotion until they gave it to Jake Hager. And I don't know what the plan was for that, but that was a terrible idea, uh especially finding out that all the shit he's been saying in wrestling recently. Uh, worst AEW signing ever. Period. Yeah. Period. It that purple hat thing was kind of gonna get over a little bit. It was funny, but no. Um, but yeah, no, Phoenix and Pensa Man, WWE has a bad habit with his luchadors. They're it's lucha party hat, whatever what with the fucking team? Lucha party? Oh, yeah, lucha party. Yeah, it's literally that every time with every luchador, except Dominic Mysterio. And I want to say the reason why is because he's not wearing a mask. He's a Mysterio, and he's not wearing a mask.

SPEAKER_01: 17:57

And I mean, I think for ms for Dominic specifically. And his English is good. What? And his English is good. That there you go. Yeah, yeah. There, now we're talking about the real stuff.

SPEAKER_02: 18:11

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 18:12

Now we're now we're getting into the real real because that's let us be real. Yeah. That is the unfortunate problem with not just our Spanish wrestlers, but any wrestler whose first language is not English, and their second language is also not English.

SPEAKER_00: 18:33

Now, we can't say too much for Stephanie Valkyrie and obviously EO Sky, because they were also champions. I think but see, I would I would still say it for them.

SPEAKER_01: 18:44

Now, now I will for Eo, I would still say so. For Stephanie, Stephanie might be the exception. She is working really hard on being the exception because with Eo, EO's been good for a very long time.

SPEAKER_00: 19:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 19:07

But when you think about how long it's taken for her to get to this point where she truly is the spotlight, kind of thing. Damage control definitely helped a lot of that and helped bring a lot of that up. But but that but the initial build for her, very rocky, and it's taken her quite some time to finally be getting her just dues.

SPEAKER_00: 19:36

My nigga just dabbed on y'all.

SPEAKER_01: 19:37

I don't know if y'all saw that. But um, like, cause I feel out of all the people who, you know, Spanish, Asian, whatever it may be, I feel Asuka might have been the only one or the true first one to ever break the mold. Break that mold. Yeah. Because she came from NXT to the main roster. And during that time, she would say what she had to say in Japanese, and then nobody's ready for Asuka. I'll never forget that shit. Never forget that shit. And it's like, and it was like she didn't have to speak English.

SPEAKER_00: 20:29

Nope, because she was a badass.

SPEAKER_01: 20:31

She didn't have to, kind of thing. And for everybody else, for them to get over, truly, without the help of Asuka, because I will say Asuka is also kind of helped bring these girls up to where they're at right now to a certain degree. But it's like, I feel that Asuka, she pretty much like, she set the tone, and thank goodness she's brought her girls up there with her. But it's like anybody else who was fitting to that same bill, wayside, fall to the fall to the side. It'd be great if we if WWE can figure out how to use managers again. Because what are those? What are those? Well, if you go to AEW, they'll show you what those are.

SPEAKER_00: 21:23

Yeah, they'll show you.

SPEAKER_01: 21:24

And that's the reason why we lost Andrade. That's the reason why a lot of these Spanish tag teams don't get anywhere because they don't have a great mouthpiece, especially for the ones who can't speak English as good.

SPEAKER_00: 21:40

It was funny because Penta and Phoenix had a manager who spoke English for them. And they were multiple-time tag team champions. So what did we learn just now? Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 21:56

Listen, it's one of those things where I feel like uh wrestling has gotten so lost in the sauce and got so caught up with fattening their pockets that they forgot literal wrestling 101. Imagine if you could tell that to the audience, please. I mean, like with Oscar, right? Imagine if she had a really good mouthpiece at her side, right? Mouthpiece does does all the talking tonight. We're doing this, da-da, and blah blah blah. And that's how it's gonna be. And this stand the other. And then Asuka, no one's ready for, and then that's it. That's all she had to do with it. And she could have been. Now, granted, Oscar did not truly need it because she is so good herself. She's already charismatic. She has the charisma that ooze it. Now, with damage control, right? With how damage control, like, I I easily would believe that damage control helped make uh uh EO be as good as she is right now. Because through damage control, she had Bailey as a mouthpiece, and then she had Dakota Kai as a mouthpiece. And even more so, when they kicked Bailey out, they had Dakota Kai really boosted her as a mouthpiece to where she's at right now. And then at that point, once she got the belt and she was still with damage control and they were doing their thing, and then her having her little back and forth with Rhea at that time and stuff, all of that has made her a made female, and it's like because of that piece, now the part that we've always seen this whole time her wrestling is how great her wrestling is, and so it's like she is now in that she's now in this top space where it's like, okay, we finally see her, and her wrestling is so good you can't deny her anymore, type situation. And because she had those people on the side that kind of helped bring and drag her up to that top spot, is why she's so good right here. And that's the problem that happened with our boy Andrade. Because Andrade, when he first showed up, he had it. Him and Selena Vega were perfect. And he was making that build and he was getting somewhere in NXT. And then, well, well, he had Selena Vega also when he came to the main roster.

SPEAKER_00: 24:55

No, I'm just talking about in general his first run.

SPEAKER_01: 24:57

But yeah, like yeah, his yeah, his NXT run, from what I've heard, I didn't really watch him when he was in NXT. But I know he did, like, he won the title at one point.

SPEAKER_00: 25:06

Yeah, he beat, he beat um Johnny Gargano. Yeah, he had a really huge one of the best matches of the year with him and Johnny Gargano.

SPEAKER_01: 25:13

And that's the thing with Andrade. He's a great talent, really good in the ring, fantastic wrestler. Might need to lay off on the gas a little bit there, cuz uh, but uh but he don't want to learn English. And unfortunately, for an for a predominantly English-speaking audience, I would I don't want to speak for everyone, but from just my observation, it is hard to get invested in someone when you don't understand what they're saying.

SPEAKER_00: 25:52

I mean, yeah, there's that a perfectly good segment, is the EO and Asuka segment where they're speaking Japanese to each other. You're if you're there as a live audience, matter of fact, on TV, they didn't put subtitles because they just went off the cuff. So, like, you would think at some point WWE would have made an upload video of just putting subtitles. But no, we've luckily had content creators do it and shit like that, but not WWE. But like when you're there live and you're watching them speak Japanese, you are literally just going off of vibes. Like, what is the other one saying? Uh we all know baka, baka, baca, and all stuff. So when people heard bak it was like, oh shit, because like you know what that means, but the fact that you don't know what it means, the only word that really set it off was bitch, and then that's when you know shit pops up.

SPEAKER_01: 26:39

And so it's like, which folks like us, we're you know, we're obviously we're big anime heads and stuff like that. So it's kind of a given. We and so there's so watching Japanese ring subtitles isn't a big deal. Now, for some of us, you know, reading subtitles is like, uh, you don't want to do that. Now, luckily with them right now, they are they speak English clear enough, in my opinion, and well enough, where you know, it's fine. At least it's fine now. Uh, I feel as if that's there there's a part of me that believes that WWE, like, people who are, you know, who speak another language, like WWE like almost forces them to not speak English well for some reason.

SPEAKER_00: 27:27

Now, I think before they were like, hey, we need you to learn English or whatever, but now I think what with Stephanie and EO, I think even with Julia too, because Julia's Japanese, um, they have uh allowed them to speak promos in their language, but there's no normal like packages. Like getting Ingreen promos, you're not really getting those in their native language.

SPEAKER_01: 27:50

Well, so so kind of. So what I'm relating to is like when you look and think about what we've heard of Asuka on TV when she first showed up, versus now, when they would have the little backstage segments, and like I have never, until this point, during this whole feud, I have never heard Asuka. And this is probably because like I don't usually like look, I don't most wrestling when I consume it, I'm consuming it when it's on TV. I don't do a whole lot of looking at like wrestlers' like Facebook pages or their YouTube pages and stuff like that. So it's like I've I don't hear those things there. I hear it whenever I'm when it's time when it's wrestling time.

SPEAKER_02: 28:38

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 28:39

Wrestling time.

SPEAKER_01: 28:40

But anyway, whenever I would hear Asuka in the past, it was she was always very broken English, or just she only would speak in Japanese. Give me a big now, you know, the backstage segments and the girls are all, you know, they're chit-chatting with each other. They'll, you know, they'll say a little bit in Japanese, and then like Asuka's talking to, you know, uh Eojan, da da da da. And she's like, it but and she's speaking perfectly fine English. Even though a couple of months ago, or maybe two years ago, you would have thought Asuka didn't know any English with the way that she would talk. And same with Eo. Now, I will say Kyrie, she has always been portrayed as being able to speak English pretty well, from what I've heard. But when she came with Asuka and they was doing the whole kabuki warriors and stuff like that, it's like she's just completely turned off English and she was just strictly Japanese.

SPEAKER_00: 29:47

A part of it feels like it's because you you're around with your native people and you're gonna speak your native language.

SPEAKER_01: 29:52

But but but and and sure, if we want to throw that there, whenever they cut promos backstage. It's like they speak as if they don't know any English at all. Shinsuke Nakamura. I know good and damn well. He speaks perfectly fine English. But then Shinsuke comes out there and you know he's he is full Japanese. You know, his English just sounds so so horrible and bad, like you can't understand him unless, and and so he just talks in Japanese. And so it's all like, but I've heard you before. I've I watched an interview and you said everything in English like it was fine. So it's like, why is it that when you're there, you only speak, you speak that way, but then if I met you on the streets, it's all like, oh, you speak perfectly fine.

SPEAKER_00: 30:46

Then why do you have this hard ass accent? It's because the writers don't know how to write foreigners. Apparently not. Just like with, and even to go all the way back to when we were talking about Pinta, I was under the impression that Pinta knew absolutely no English. Yeah, no, I actually messaged him years ago about getting one of his shirts, and he messaged me back. And he was like, hey, fortunately, I don't have any other sides, no further than 3X, sorry. And met him in person too. Even um Wrestle, that that wrestling con that was here. Um in uh Jacksonville. No, no, no. Uh WrestleMania, that that that one, yeah. He was there for a brief period too, and spoke to me in complete English. No problem. I mean, he has accent, but like, no problem.

SPEAKER_01: 31:31

Which is fine. Like, accent is fine. But it's like, but then they all like, but then for TV, they'll make it seem as if they have a super duper thick accent. And it's like they fresh off the boat. Yeah, like, yeah, like as if they just like literally just came right from you know the from from their home in Mexico or in Puerto Rico type situation. And so it's like, I don't understand. Like, I almost feel as if it's this is like conspiracy theory talk here, but I almost feel as if it's like a way of like keeping their push at a certain level because it is widely known that most people prefer dub over sub unless you know they're really, really about that life type situation. I was with you until you said the You're a standard person, bro. Okay, okay absolute standard person. Okay. When you think about wrestlers, all right, not talking about people like you and I.

SPEAKER_00: 32:34

No, what I was what I was more so thinking about was you were saying they were containing that push because, yes, as a normal person, we are used to everything and done, right? Like everything in our native language.

SPEAKER_01: 32:46

Everything needs so we want everything in our language. We don't want to sit here and read. We just want to watch and see things unfold.

SPEAKER_00: 32:54

So basically hindering a person from getting over because they can't, they making them like, hey, you're a foreigner, you don't speak our native language. So to keep you from getting too over with the audience, and then you know, boom, giving you the belt, speak your native language.

SPEAKER_01: 33:08

Pigeonhole, pigeonhole you into because I say this, but then you look at all the Spanish wrestlers we've had up until this point, right? And the only super big one that has happened has been like, well, for the most part, Rey Mysterio.

SPEAKER_00: 33:26

That's it. I mean, we do have legends that will come in there, like Ultimo Dragon, all them kind of thing, but like still, no.

SPEAKER_01: 33:33

But it's like you look at now, like, with Dragon Lee, I feel as if Dragon Lee might be the exception. I think they just dropped the ball with Dragon Lee.

SPEAKER_00: 33:43

Yeah, yeah, they found it too early. Like he came in, he was red hot in the XT, then goes to the main roster, and then, oh, just come out and join the uh LWO. Yeah. Which to me, that was I love what Eddie did with the LWO and WCW because basically that was that was real emotion and everything. But to me, LWO is no different than loot cha loot lucha party having ass shit.

SPEAKER_01: 34:10

Like they just they don't they just don't have masks on, yeah. Well, not even and they're and they're also no different from El Fantasmo. Literally, it's the same. It's just they're just the bad guy version of LWO. Yeah. Type thing. It's like they're kind of sort of in this weird holding spot type thing. And then I think now what's really going to kind of suck for them right now is the fact that, oh wait, now we have now we're like super partnered up with this uh you know, with AAA, the Spanish company. Oh, well, we're just gonna sell all our Spanish people over there now.

SPEAKER_00: 34:44

Yeah, uh the found Fantasma wins the belts. Oh, wait, and now we got Dominic Mysterio as the heavyweight champion, which by the way, good idea. Um, the healing up from whenever Ray had to put the belt up, healed that the fuck up. But Dominic, like I said before, Dominic Mysterio is definitely the exception for a couple of reasons. One, as much he's literally Eddie Guerrero. I don't give a fuck what nobody says, bro. Let's talk about this man's run, and it needs to be studied. My man started out with Rhea, then went to live, and then potentially could have had Roxanne. And then also, my man has been an intercontinental champion. Well, has he been a tag team champion too?

SPEAKER_01: 35:30

No, he didn't get the tag.

SPEAKER_00: 35:31

Okay, so he was a North American champion. And I forgot who was the other person that potentially oh, oh, it's Tiffany. Tiffany even made a move on one time. My man's run needs to be studied. He is the look, he's the legit Latino Heat.

SPEAKER_01: 35:45

Bro, it's the mustache, dog.

SPEAKER_00: 35:47

Why do you think I'm trying to grow one?

SPEAKER_01: 35:50

Is that what you're trying to do?

SPEAKER_00: 35:51

I'm trying to get some some shit going, bro. Some shit, bro.

SPEAKER_01: 35:55

Listen, I'm looking at yours and I'm like, eh, you really trying, bro.

SPEAKER_00: 35:58

Yeah, bro. The derma rollers work. I mean, we get something, you know.

SPEAKER_01: 36:02

While I'm literally contemplating cutting all this off, right?

SPEAKER_00: 36:05

Crazy as shit. Go ahead, swap, swap, swap faces, man. Shit. Nah, I'm I'm I'm fine.

SPEAKER_01: 36:12

I'll keep what I have. Oh, fuck. Listen, fun fact, freaking what you see right here, I have not taken a razor to my face since June 11th. And the only reason why. Wait, yeah, because you did the goatee thing, yeah. And the only reason why, and and the and the only and the only reason why I shaved a little bit of my face at that time was literally because I was going to do a uh I was going to do an interview for a I was doing a job interview. That's the last that is the last time any type of clippers have done anything here. It's a blessing and a curse.

SPEAKER_00: 36:48

Yeah, rub your shit in, bitch.

SPEAKER_01: 36:50

Anyway, listen, there are some people who just who just would grow to the point where they look fully homeless. I just grow to a point and stop.

SPEAKER_00: 37:01

I can see that. Like it is like your hair has a alright, we've we've grown long enough. Um, but miscellaneous things that we talked about in this wacky world of wrestling that we are knowing today. Uh let's go over these shows.

SPEAKER_01: 37:17

So, uh oh, actually, uh well, the only other thing I did want, just going off that last little tangent that we were on about, you know, the when you look at Nakamore, right? Look at how he came in. He came in, great big ball of fire. He used to come into the ring and he would cut promos, but they would make him cut promos like he has this heavy ass accent. And then after a while, he just stopped cutting promos. And then his decline started happening when he just only cut promos in Japanese. And now we just don't see him anymore after his last little stunt where he showed up, won the heavyweight title, took it from LA Knight.

SPEAKER_00: 38:02

Give me the US title.

SPEAKER_01: 38:03

I'm sorry, U.S. title. What did I say? You said heavyweight.

SPEAKER_00: 38:06

I wish because he came back as the cybernetic, almost like samurai. And I was like, I'm liking this. Y'all already know I'm liking this. And the new theme song was dope. Don't even get a chance to enjoy it that fuck along. Because he he was in and out. In and out.

SPEAKER_01: 38:21

And as soon as he was out, he was out. I mean, great.

SPEAKER_00: 38:25

He is getting old, man.

SPEAKER_01: 38:26

He did get a little, it did get a little shine with like Cody Rhodes for like a very, very hot minute, but uh, I miss Nakamura. Don't we all? But as far as raw, the first note that I said, and this has kind of sort of this will go on for the rest of this talk here. Story equals entertainment. And we're not talking about our homie story, but he's okay too.

SPEAKER_00: 38:57

Oh, that nigga.

SPEAKER_01: 38:59

He said, not me. So I say that because the hottest thing happening on Raw right now is the whole EOSky and Asuka situation with Rhea Ripley. Okay. And the way that they started off Raw, continuing on with that story, because that's what ended raw the other night. Yep. Which was great because it was something different for once. Just a little something different. But it's like their whole situation with the mist, and EO out here, like, I don't want to betray them, I don't want to leave them, but like, they're giving me no choice. And Rhea out here almost. It's funny, because there's there were a couple of points where I'm watching where Ia and uh Eo are uh reacting and talking to each other backstage, and I'm like, are y'all about to kiss? Like, I wish Rhea Ripley would look at me the way that she's looking at Eo. God damn.

SPEAKER_00: 40:11

Oh my god, I didn't even think about that. Alright.

SPEAKER_01: 40:14

Bro, the way, like, the way I wish she would look at me the way she was that just that concerning, but almost like, I want to fuck you eyes. Like, I'm like, I'm getting mixed signals watching this segment. Like, Rhea, what are you trying to what are you saying here, girl? Like, what are you what's what what's what's happening right now?

SPEAKER_00: 40:40

Fail.

SPEAKER_01: 40:41

Like, if you go back and specifically, it's specifically when they're backstage, and she's all like, EO, I'm sorry that this had to happen to you, and da da da da.

SPEAKER_00: 40:51

She was macking.

SPEAKER_01: 40:52

Bro, I'm telling you. I'm telling you.

SPEAKER_00: 40:56

Hey, look, man, it's Eo though. I done did it too. You know what I'm saying? I bet Eo.

SPEAKER_01: 41:00

It was worse the week prior. The week prior, when they were talking backstage, I was like, like, and how close they was, I'm just all like. You know, where they do the like uh like flick the hair behind the ear thing. Oh my god. No, not like not the twilight shit the slow down. Bro, I'll wait for Rhea to hit one of these maneuvers. And I'm just like, oh god. Oh, oh god.

SPEAKER_00: 41:38

I think you're projecting on.

SPEAKER_01: 41:40

I might be. Yeah. I mean, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 41:46

I I'll I'll accept it. Yeah, apparently that was the hottest segment to you. Yeah. That whoo!

SPEAKER_01: 41:51

Yeah, let me tell you.

SPEAKER_00: 41:52

Yeah, that was the hottest segment for you, alright.

SPEAKER_01: 41:54

Yeah. Had to put some muscle shirt on.

SPEAKER_00: 41:57

Straight hand tie on this bitch.

SPEAKER_01: 42:00

Anyway. Some some Ozzy Ozzy anti? Like, what? I mean, they both from the same side of the world, so you know what I'm saying? Um, not very far away from each other. What else are we talking about with Raw, sir? I mean, I'll be honest though, like, outside of that, the only other thing that's really happening with Raw right now is Cody Rhodes and Seth. I have to give it to them. And maybe it's because the bar has just been set so low in recent times, but I have to give it to them because of the fact that they are really making us actually give a damn about a champion versus champion match where neither of their actual titles are on the line.

SPEAKER_00: 42:48

It's crazy to me. It is very interesting, but the only reason why is because we've had so many battles between these two that were legendary. I mean, shit, the hell in a cell match. Who could ever forget that moment? Him shedding the jacket and seeing that peck, and Cody still doing that fucking match. Story. I'm putting that on the screen.

SPEAKER_01: 43:19

Story. Like I said. There is story there. I'm gonna put a counter up too. You might as well. Because it gets worse after this. Because of the lack of. But it's like there's so much story in the Seth and Cody situation where and then the fact that like I like Seth has done the thing where he has made me believe and has sold me on how he feels and his view on everything. Seth is so in his mind, and Cody, like Cody Rose will look at us like, hey, we're friends. It's just a nice little bout. Let's say who's the better champion right now. Seth is over here on some Vegeta type shit, like, nah, fam. You're not better than me. I I know I'm better than you. We're not buddy buddy friends here. Like, no, no, don't don't do that. Don't patronize me. I'm the best. I'm the quarterback. This is my team. You no, no, I'm I'ma change everything and all this other stuff, and it's and it's great.

SPEAKER_00: 44:31

Side note, do you know that Goku has never beaten Vegeta or Yamcha?

SPEAKER_01: 44:36

Goku has never beaten Yamcha. I guess not. Now, Goku never beating Vegeta, this I know.

SPEAKER_00: 44:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 44:46

I make this argument all the time about the fact that Goku has never. Let me put it this way. The first time they fought, Goku did not beat Vegeta. And the second time they fought. An L is an L regardless of what you say in the time that the L is delivered. Goku allowed Vegeta to win. Which means Goku lost.

SPEAKER_00: 45:14

Yes. I just wanted to put that out before I saw a video clip of it and I was like, oh shit. Actually, you're fucking right, but and I also think in one of the recent movies, Vegeta also beat Goku.

SPEAKER_01: 45:30

Yeah. In uh in the uh the movie with Gohan. Because like the movie starts out, and Vegeta and Goku are going to go against each other. And at the end, Vegeta's going on about the fact that he beat Kakarod. Yeah. In the little bout that they had. Yeah. And so it's all like. The only person Goku has ever truly beaten was Frieza.

SPEAKER_00: 45:52

Yeah, actually never beat Cell either.

SPEAKER_01: 45:54

Anyway, um. Oh, well, that, well, yeah, no, no. But we also, but but Goku also knew he couldn't beat Cell. Yeah, no.

SPEAKER_00: 46:00

So wait.

SPEAKER_01: 46:02

Who was saying that Goku beats could beat Cell?

SPEAKER_00: 46:05

No, no, no, no, no, nobody said that.

SPEAKER_01: 46:06

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00: 46:06

I was about to listen to that. I shouldn't even brought that shit up. Anyway, what's going on with what else is going on? That's one thing you can't do with swag, bro. If you talk about AT Dragon Ball Z, it would be a As long as y'all got your facts right. I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_01: 46:25

Oh, man. It's like niggas saying that Raleigh can Raleigh will lose the go. Get the fuck out of here. But anyway. Oh, that's it for Raw. We're going to SmackDown now. That's uh that's that's all I Shaq. That's that's all I cared about with Raw. Because everything else that happened on Raw, who cares?

SPEAKER_00: 46:46

Yeah. Like the vision tag team match that happens for the bajillion time and then Roman comes back. Like, so what? Oh, yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_01: 46:55

Roman Reyes did come back. Big whoop. So SmackDown.

SPEAKER_00: 46:57

There's literally a uh a meme of it's like P.L. E shows up on Raw, gets hurt, goes away. P.L.E., like it's it's the same thing, but continue. Smackdown. Mello don't miss.

SPEAKER_01: 47:12

Yeah. I was actually a little hot about this one. Because I was like, damn, Miz, that's how we doing. But it did give us still a mellow comes out there, gets attacked by Miz, and then Alistair Black comes out. I was like, damn, sucks, nigga. Alright, so I'm gonna take this challenge.

SPEAKER_00: 47:31

My thing about it, because like I even saw some people say, like, what was the point? And if somebody says, Oh, would they confuse? It's like nobody wants to see that. Nobody cares. We want Mello with championship, sir. He is him. Him does not spend time with somebody like the Miz, because Miz is nowhere near him. He may have been him at one point, but no. Like, we need him to go against people that actually match her.

SPEAKER_01: 48:01

So, yes, I do agree. But considering that they're not going to do what they did with Stephanie Valkyrie, where she was gone for so so long, and then she just shows back up finally at this pay-per-view and BTO Sky takes the title. They are wanting to let's put him on TV a bit more again after we put him on the shelf for God knows how long.

SPEAKER_00: 48:36

Here's my issue with Melo's situation, too, because it's like with WWE and how they're treating him, like I feel like if anything happens, he would go to TNA because you can't see him going anywhere else. I definitely don't want to see him in AEW. Don't want to see that. Funny enough, though, he has the body type that AEW likes to push. But they're not gonna make him a heavyweight champion. Oh, God, no. I'm talking about the promotion that is going to recognize who he is and put the big belt on him because he needs the belt. Like when he was NXT champion, he was truly him. And I would hate to be like, well, so you basically tell me he's only an NXT star? No, he has the capability of going so No. Uh well, I know what you mean there. Okay, never mind. Um for a second, I thought you was about to like talk out ofever. Nah, bro. But you mean like actually he is, but you know what? Fuck you. Um but I I I failed to understand what WWE's doing with him. Like, is he gonna be one of those situations like Kofi where you've been in the company for years, and then we finally put the bet on you like 10 years later?

SPEAKER_01: 49:44

Here's the problem I feel is going on with Mr. Mello. All right, Mello is in a position where he should be a main event star, but the main event is so cluttered with extremely powerful names that he just gets outshine. There's no room for Melo at the top, and there's not going to be any room for Mello at the top, in my personal opinion, until after next WrestleMania.

SPEAKER_00: 50:24

I don't even think that's happening, bro. It might not. I think it's good. It's like they're gonna because like people have to fizzle out, like Cody, it had to be like like uh Orton or Drew or something like that. Some people have to fizzle out, and I just don't see it happening in the foreseeable future, and that's his problem.

SPEAKER_01: 50:44

He's in a position where there are so many extremely powerful and established big names at the top, yeah, that people like him, there is a there is a hard stop, there is a hard ceiling that no one can get past because this it because this upper echelon is so so strong of an upper echelon. And the problem with wrestling right now is the fact that with because this upper echelon that's up here is what's making the company all of the money right now, that's all they're going to focus on. They're not gonna focus on anything below right now, because that's not putting more dollars in their pocket. Mello is not going to make them money right now, and that's just the the unfortunate bit on it. That's why Sami Zayn has been demoted to where he's at, because though people love Sami Zayn, Sami Zayn's not selling the merch, Sami Zayn ain't putting as many butts and seats as the Vision, Drew, Cody, Randy, CM Punk. All those names that I just said. You didn't say ooose, oh damn. That's crazy. I mean, if we're talking about the sales and merch, sure, we can put the oos in there. But it's like, but but and then when you put him in there though, right? So, and that's me sliding him in at that very bottom. Where is there room for Melo in a main event sighting? Have him go against Jay. Against Jay. I think we no, I'm sorry. That was with the other one. He did that with Big Jim. Yeah, but that would but for that to happen then, that would mean he needed to go to Raw, which, in my personal opinion, I feel his buck would probably go a lot further on Raw if he went over there.

SPEAKER_00: 52:58

That's also what a lot of people are saying about the tag team division. Like, the tag team division is so good in SmackDown that you know, cut cut it in half and bring some of those people on Raw so that way Raw's tag team division isn't poo-dude.

SPEAKER_01: 53:12

Yeah, because it's just they're the Raw tag team titles, which to me are the better-looking titles, absolutely are just sitting there collecting dust on the shoulders of Judgment Day. Because Judgment Day is in their own little storyline, whatever the fuck that's going to, whatever that is.

SPEAKER_00: 53:28

Whenever that implodes, that's been going on for like almost a year and some change now.

SPEAKER_01: 53:32

See, the problem with the Judgment Day situation is because we were waiting for Liv Morgan to get better and get back so that they can do the whole judgment implosion.

SPEAKER_00: 53:40

She injured too?

SPEAKER_01: 53:41

No, she's hurt. Remember Eo Sky? Uh not Eo, uh uh um But she was stepping away to film something. I mean, she's I mean, she can film now because she probably doesn't need her shoulder for filming. But like she initially she got hurt. Literally, she was in a match with Kyrie, and like Kyrie did like what was it, like a uh a front face like Rush and leg sweep?

SPEAKER_00: 54:05

You know, she it was disloc. I thought it was a dislocation.

SPEAKER_01: 54:08

Well, no, I'm saying the move that happened, she like did like one of those like you know yeah type moves, and then she just fucking and that was it. They carried her out, and that was the end of that. So, but it's like Mello is him fighting Miz is all he has right now. It's disgusting. It's either he does this dance with Miz, which will at least lead him hopefully on to something else afterwards. He does this dance with Miz, and then maybe he'll get more. But otherwise, he has to wait till after WrestleMania or till someone dies or something or gets injured.

SPEAKER_00: 54:50

Released maybe first. Damn, die, my nigga? Like first? Like that's the first thing. Not released, not something. Not AEW bound, nothing, just dead.

SPEAKER_01: 55:01

Damn, boy, that's crazy. Um like it's the reason why I feel like right now, everyone who is in NXT right now, thank God they got the TNA thing going on because it saves them from moving up to the main roster to do nothing. Yeah, like right now's got to. If they bring him up to the main roster, the fuck is he?

SPEAKER_00: 55:25

Yeah. I mean, he's apparently not. Apparently, the whole thing they say is they're gonna keep him down here, down there for a little bit longer. As they need to, but he's not gonna be during the TNA invasion, which to me, to me, honestly, somebody had posted like it would have been a cool story to bring into a rematch. It's like, yeah, okay, we need you to come over here and help us with the you know the TNA situation. I know I just took the belt from you, but let's work this out. And if what you could have even did, even worse, to spark the feud is during the tag match or whatever, the the trios match, have Fimi cause Ricky to get pinned. See, that's what I was gonna say.

SPEAKER_01: 56:03

Yeah, that's that's on that. That's my thought on that. You know, Oba Femi's gone right now, and then like when they do this, uh when they do the uh this uh rematch. Not well, the the invasion angle that they're doing.

SPEAKER_00: 56:17

The showdown. Sorry. The showdown. Showdown.

SPEAKER_01: 56:21

I apologize. When they do the showdown. When they do the showdown, like literally we get into a nitty gritty of it, and then we have Oba Femi come in there, full King Kong mode, no pun intended, and he just starts. That reminds me of some news I heard recently, which I'm like, damn, that's unfortunate.

SPEAKER_00: 56:47

But you gotta tell me later.

SPEAKER_01: 56:48

But uh, you know, he comes in there and he just wrecks shop.

SPEAKER_00: 56:53

I feel like that would be dope. Like in the middle of that match, all of a sudden just his music hits.

SPEAKER_01: 56:57

Yeah, his music. He just comes down there and it doesn't he he beats everybody. Yeah, like everybody NXT. TNA or T NXT or T. He just comes in there, throws everyone around, beats them up and everything, but he does specifically lay the hell out of uh of Ricky, and then uh TNA takes advantage and pins Ricky and they keep up.

SPEAKER_00: 57:18

I feel like a perfect image to cap off the show is have Ricky like right where you know where he does the ha like have it right there and then cut the light. And then just show Ricky and him just standing over Ricky, bro.

SPEAKER_01: 57:32

That that'd be a cover, bro. That's what they need to do for Oba. Yeah. Now, talking about whenever they do decide to bring up to the main roster, and that's also one of the things that I feel is missing it in wrestling right now is the fact that now when I say legitimate wrestlers, like legit wrestlers like people can find convincing, like Braun, like brought uh Brought Lester back in the day. Not necessarily that. Though true to a certain degree, what I was gonna say more so is wrestling has gotten to a point where they don't want to take risks anymore. Oh, never, yeah. They are they wrestle and they play things too safe. I would say when Oba Femi gets brought up, he gets brought up and he wins the title immediately. Like you just put the heavyweight title on. Just immediately. And then just fucking roll with that. Just fucking do it. Don't look back. Doesn't matter who's the champion. Fucking could be Cody, could be and I don't, and I'm not talking like Oba Femi shows up in the Royal Rumble, wins the Royal Rumble.

SPEAKER_00: 58:50

It's gotta be like a the WrestleMania situation where Ordinary just like who is my challenger?

SPEAKER_01: 58:54

You don't all of a sudden go to him. Something like that.

SPEAKER_00: 59:00

Or uh Can you imagine walking down Mania doing the that shit would be late, my nigga?

SPEAKER_01: 59:07

It'd be nice. It'd be traveling shit. It would be great. But like, I just like because that's when you think about how things were like back in the day and in the past. Yeah, like that's how you made stars. That's how you know you like that's how you make someone you gamble on them, strap the rocket on her back, see if it flies or if it blows up. And if it blows up, well, goddamn, uh put the shit back on Cody and we'll just resume what we was doing. Yeah. But at least we tried.

SPEAKER_00: 59:41

You did it like with Cena. The whole you tried to heal shit, it didn't work. All right, cool, boom, make him a face again. And the audience was okay with that.

SPEAKER_01: 59:49

Like, I mean, for all intents and purposes, yes, on that. Like, it's it's better, it's better than with this build that. We're doing now because then it's like like with Melo, he was hot, fiery hot when he left NXT and he came here, and he was fiery hot when he came to the main roster, and then he became ill deathly cold, extremely cold.

SPEAKER_00: 1:00:15

But uh, like outside of that, oh, another person loses to the blue thunderbomb. So I like how he's making at his finisher now.

SPEAKER_01: 1:00:25

I actually like this Haluva kick blue thunderbomb combo. It is lit. Like that's because now it it that makes sense to me.

SPEAKER_00: 1:00:37

Yeah, like you can't just win off of just throwing a blue thunderbomb.

SPEAKER_01: 1:00:40

The kick is especially since prior to this, no one lost to the blue. The blue thunderbomb was the signature, and then you halluvakick for the win. But now if we're Haluva kicking almost as if it's the signature.

SPEAKER_00: 1:00:57

Yeah, right. Now it's the signature.

SPEAKER_01: 1:00:58

Now the Haluva kick is a signature going into the blue thunderbomb. I'm personally okay with that because that doubles back to my feelings on how we don't have impactful finishers anymore. But now we're making the blue thunder palm the blue thunder bomb an impactful finisher. And it looks pretty every good. Yeah. Almost sky high level, too. Listen, boom!

SPEAKER_00: 1:01:24

Almost everyone looks just like absolutely. I'm I'm I'm perfectly okay with that. And if you don't know what we're talking about, guys, please look up anytime D Lo sky hide somebody back in the day.

SPEAKER_01: 1:01:37

That shit was crispy. D Lo Brown sky high. Um, what's his name?

SPEAKER_00: 1:01:45

I think uh Titus O'Neill did it too, but he didn't he didn't do it as crispy though. He did it.

SPEAKER_01: 1:01:49

Yeah, his wasn't always crispy. Every once in a while he'll get the height that needs to be because he's a big dude and it should look really good when you're gonna be able to do that. But you know, and I I mean, what's his name? Uh not uh not Montez, but um um uh I know you Dawkins.

SPEAKER_00: 1:02:09

There you go. Dawkins, his sky high ain't bad. Wow, this is really a black finisher. It really is. It is really a black finisher. Wow. It really, yeah, that's gross.

SPEAKER_01: 1:02:22

I mean, yo, but no, it is what it is. You know, sometimes from that to the dominator, you know, like only next. This is what we call domination. When we talk about the last ECW champion, we put respect on his name.

SPEAKER_00: 1:02:43

No, the last, the last true ECW champion was Ezekiel Jackson. Actually, actually, actually, I would take that back because we don't need to be talking about RVD right now. Um, what RVD do? RVD uh stood up for um Rampage sign.

SPEAKER_01: 1:03:02

Oh, yeah, I remember hearing about that piece. I mean, nah, can't co-sign.

SPEAKER_00: 1:03:08

Yeah, no.

SPEAKER_01: 1:03:09

It is what it is.

SPEAKER_00: 1:03:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 1:03:11

Which I think I had I heard that he they actually did finally like arrested him.

SPEAKER_00: 1:03:14

Arrest him, yeah. He is arrested. But at this point, it's all like it's like a It was like a month ahead, Superfight, bro. It's like it's already like the damage is done. It is. Oh, SmackDown, yes. Well, I mean without the rest of SmackDown for you. No, no, no, no, no. Damn with that US title match the only thing that mattered. Yes. Actually, we could talk about how I don't think you watched. Did you watch it on Netflix?

SPEAKER_01: 1:03:42

Yes.

SPEAKER_00: 1:03:42

What was up with the green shit? UAC, okay. There's there's literally a photo going around. There's parts of where SmackDown was like the audio was cutting out, and then also there's the the screen went like green pixelated.

SPEAKER_01: 1:03:58

I oh no, I that oh no, I didn't. I watched it um I did not see that.

SPEAKER_00: 1:04:06

What part where did that happen at? It was during the segment where I think it was um the the female tag team, what's their name? Uh Sol um Soluka. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They were backstage with Nick Aldous, whatever. You know what? I I did remember that now I just say that. It just like you did you did just talk to my wife about how like you'll watch two hours of wrestling and be like So what the fuck did I just watch after?

SPEAKER_01: 1:04:33

It's wrestling gets rough sometimes. But like uh yeah, and it's funny you said that about that because I didn't even I mean I I didn't put Sol Ruka and them in my notes, but because they're because that is not at for me, the whole situation with Sol Ruka and them, it's like it's like eh, it's whatever. It's cool, cool, whatever. Like, not big news to me. The big news that I got was outside of the Sami Zayn open challenge and uh Aleister Black taking an L with interference, of course, because they're doing the whole him and Damian Priest are gonna have a last man standing match on SmackDown next week.

SPEAKER_00: 1:05:09

Which Damien will take to win.

SPEAKER_01: 1:05:10

Which I'm upset because I'm like the pay-per-view is just the next day. Just do it on the fucking pay-per-view. That is a pay-per-view quality match.

SPEAKER_00: 1:05:21

Uh nah, because we got Cena versus AJ. We got the the men's title match, we got the women's title match. Uh what the fuck else is going on that fucking show? There is a tag team match that's supposed to be having it too. I think. And also apparently Roman Reigns is supposed to be working it. Damn.

SPEAKER_01: 1:05:44

Because he's on the he's on the he's on the poster. I don't understand why, like, and watch this. I'm almost willing to put money on it. That match is gonna be really good. And then we're gonna watch the pay-per-view, and all those matches are gonna be really mid. And then we're gonna be sitting here like, man, why don't why are we having mid-matches? Mid-matches on pay-per-views. Why are we having matches that you used to exclusively only see on pay-per-view on a SmackDown?

SPEAKER_00: 1:06:26

Because it's must-see TV, swag. What are you talking about? Must see.

SPEAKER_01: 1:06:31

The only things that I have down here that was must-see was the Sami Zayn Open Challenge, the contract signing, and Cody Rhodes and Randy versus Division. And even then, that's laughable.

SPEAKER_00: 1:06:45

Also, that was the mega powers right there.

SPEAKER_01: 1:06:47

Well, Cody Rhodes and Randy.

SPEAKER_00: 1:06:49

People are saying that is the equivalent of the mega powers. And because Orton is going to implode and turn heel on Or on uh Cody, which everybody's wanting Orton to be heel again.

SPEAKER_01: 1:07:02

I mean, it makes sense. And Randy Orton does his best work when he's bad. It's just that Randy Orton is in this day and age where it's hard to boo him, and it's hard for him to be a real heel.

SPEAKER_00: 1:07:18

No. You don't think so? No, I'm saying, like, no, it's hard, it's hard to boo him. What more so the thing is with Orton, too, it's like he's he should be the equivalent of an anaconda. How powerful his his character should be. But back in the day, as a viper, he had to do cunning stuff, he had to do things that his body can probably not do anymore. Or the character that he could play anymore, because he's not that person. He had to die, he had to dig in deep. And as he was a uh snake in the ring, he was also a snake in real life. And he is not that anymore.

SPEAKER_01: 1:08:00

Yeah, he's he is a grown father. He's a grown father, right now.

SPEAKER_00: 1:08:03

He's guile at his perfect well no technically, Cody is guile.

SPEAKER_01: 1:08:09

Um I mean, the whole thing with Randy Orton and Cody, you know, with that eventual turn that's probably happening down the line. I'm not mad at it. I'm kind of okay with it. Like, I see it probably, like I feel as if it'll maybe it'll probably take full fruition. You think mania?

SPEAKER_00: 1:08:27

I feel like it might be a mania match. Because, I mean, we're getting close to it, so what will probably happen is Cody keeps the belt. Orton either whips not even on the line. Well, no, I'm just saying, Cody's keeping his belt all the way to Mania, obviously. He's not losing it to anybody else. Like, let's just be real. Um, and then Orton either wins, um, he either does one of two things. He either wins the rumble or he turns on him, and he turns on him maybe round December, and that that build from December all the way to Mania is just the back and forth between them and make that match thing.

SPEAKER_01: 1:09:05

Oh, that's a that is a long, tough build.

SPEAKER_00: 1:09:08

It is. Because when you got like what what are the stakes besides the the the you know the belt, like Cody's unless you put Brandy in there in some way, shape, or form, and Brandy don't got a contract.

SPEAKER_01: 1:09:20

Oh no, not absolutely not. Keep Brandy away from the ring.

SPEAKER_00: 1:09:24

Well, I mean, like, yeah, oh damn.

SPEAKER_01: 1:09:28

I don't need her. I don't need her there right now.

SPEAKER_00: 1:09:31

I mean, unless Orton pulls a uh pulls a triple H and goes to Cody's house. I like how your eyes lit up when I said that.

SPEAKER_01: 1:09:40

Only just for the sure idea of just wanting to see something like that again.

SPEAKER_00: 1:09:46

I mean, they WWE's matter of fact, just everything in the world pulls on nostalgia so much because it gets us popping. I mean, shit, that's why the dumbass pipe bomb from Cena happened. Nostalgia. Um, you know, having CM Punk go back to his thug and I'm a gimmick, nostalgia. So what would be more nostalgic than Orton kicking in this man's door and he sees, you know, or it could be vice versa, where Cody does it. Either way, he does something to Brandy.

SPEAKER_01: 1:10:20

I mean, it's just at that point, I'm just trying to figure out what's the story and build that would lead to that moment. Because that's wild. Well, they show either of them to be kicking down one or the other's door.

SPEAKER_00: 1:10:32

Well, I mean, he has to punt Brandy. He has to punt her.

SPEAKER_01: 1:10:36

Oh, geez.

SPEAKER_00: 1:10:37

And then here's the thing, because they've been showing signs of Orton holding the belt, and he's like, hmm. So he could be like, Man, I had to become a killer. To get you. Like, you know, he could even make the whole thing like you the American, you know, the American nightmare, you, you're the patriotic eagle, and I'm a snake.

SPEAKER_01: 1:10:55

Didn't you just compare Randy Orton to Vegeta a little bit ago? So what you're trying so pretty much what you're uh insinuating is that Randy Orton's gonna have to go modin.

SPEAKER_00: 1:11:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 1:11:10

To completely break himself away from Cody Rhodes to fight Cody Rhodes at his full power.

SPEAKER_00: 1:11:18

But to actually lose Yeah, because he's not wearing that belt. Which the thing about Cody, I love Cody as a character. I love this, but like, because of his star power, there are certain matches where it's like, that looks like it'll be a great match.

SPEAKER_01: 1:11:35

Cody is not losing that match, and that's a big issue when it comes to a lot of the stories with Cody. Now, I will say, and that's what but that's what makes this coming up match with Cody and them interesting with Cody and Seth, is because it's hard, it it it there's room to say Cody Rhodes should still win, but there's also a good chance that Seth Rollins is going to take this W. And that's nice to have because there's uncertainty.

SPEAKER_00: 1:12:17

What if I told you that probably won't happen? What? CM Punk. And then the vision comes out which causes the Usos to come out. CM Punk is supposed to be on Raw coming up, so but but it's not in Saudi, so he'll be there.

SPEAKER_01: 1:12:35

But but but to that bit though, there is still a but the but there's still that that error and that possible margin of like what is going to happen. Because where there is CM Punk and Cody Rose also does have Randy Orton type thing, Randy Orton could turn on Cody kind of thing. Or the vision just ends up taking over type situation and getting the win. There's so there's a lot of elements that are making this match something less than he wants to.

SPEAKER_00: 1:13:08

I see what you're saying because just like now you have so many possibilities. It's like, okay, so okay, we have this tag match coming up. Boom, we have that. Okay, does Orton try to help uh Cody whenever the vision comes out there and then actually turns on and therefore giving Seth the win? Or does CM Punk come out there because the vision starts fucking shit up? And then CM Punk tries to help him get the win, and therefore does Cody actually get the crossroads and get the win because of Seth's you know egotistical mind, and therefore he crashes the fuck out next next time on Raw.

SPEAKER_01: 1:13:40

There is so much story.

SPEAKER_00: 1:13:41

Yeah, there, yeah, yeah. Uh okay, I see you now. I see you now. And that you know it's interesting, Bart. That's what wrestling used to be back in the day, man. That's what it used to be.

SPEAKER_01: 1:13:50

For more than one story. Yeah. There'd be at least three stories with a soft fourth one, but now it's just one story that has all of these elements.

SPEAKER_00: 1:14:03

I think they got that formula from the bloodline situation that said, we gotta put all our energy into one store.

SPEAKER_01: 1:14:09

And that's a problem. That's a big problem. Because the difference is, at least with the bloodline, well, no, I can't even say that. Like, it kind of worked with the bloodline, but like, because when you do think of that, now I should say that, because when you think about that, do you remember anything else that was happening at the same time the bloodline story was going on? No. Do you remember who the tag team champions were? Oh, that's right. The bloodline. I'm sorry. Um, and then no, they they literally had they were they had both. Yeah, so so it was like, yeah, but they had every belt. So then it was like Roman Reigns has his storyline, the Usos has their storyline with the tag team division. Uh, who had the Intercontinental title? U.S. title at the time? No, St. No, he didn't.

SPEAKER_00: 1:14:59

No, yeah, he never had a belt while he was with them.

SPEAKER_01: 1:15:01

Um but fuck, I don't know. But see, and that's the problem though, because it's like we don't remember that, but we remember everything that was going on with the bloodline. Yeah, yeah. So it's like right now we got everything going on right now. Yes, we know what's happening with division, but like who who's who's paying attention to what uh, you know, the the United States champion's doing? Who who's paying attention to what the Intercontinental Champion's doing? And it's like it's not as bad, but there's no real story going on. That's crazy. But they do have one big story going on, and that's the one that they're putting all their energy into. And that's why people like Melo, people like Penta, and all of them are just kind of falling to the wayside because they're there, they're they're wrestling, you see them, but what they're doing is not rememorable. And this then goes into our AEW. The lack of story. So when I tell you, the only thing this was the sixth anniversary of AEW.

SPEAKER_00: 1:16:07

I thought that shit was kind of popping. Like it was story-wise, no, but the shit was kind of popping for a sixth anniversary.

SPEAKER_01: 1:16:16

AEW is the place where people go to watch wrestling. They have the best wrestlers in the world.

SPEAKER_00: 1:16:25

I don't know if you're joking right now.

SPEAKER_01: 1:16:27

AEW. Oh boy. What the fuck's happening here? But at the end of the day, what is a wrestling match without its reason and its purpose? Listen, bro. When I watched the sixth anniversary of AEW, the important bits that I put in here. Number one, Andrade is back.

SPEAKER_00: 1:16:53

That was the first match.

SPEAKER_01: 1:16:55

Andrade is back.

SPEAKER_00: 1:16:57

Who cares about the match? Can we talk about sorry before I finish? Oh, I got something that I want to get off my fucking chest after that. Nah, spinning, spinning. The Don Callis family is the fucking NWO, my nigga. I'm so tired of this. I am so tired of this, bro. Every person coming in and shaking the hand, bro. You are the fucking NWO, and I hate it. I hate it. Because if you guys have this many niggas in your faction, why do you not have all the fucking belts? Why? Why do you have not all the belts? You should have everyone. Everyone. With that many motherfuckers in your team. People get people don't even get the chance to shine like Josh Alexander, man. Josh Alexander, I hate the fact that you went to AEW because you would be amazing right now in NXT. Like, I feel like you left at the worst time. Maybe you didn't just didn't know what was gonna happen. But like if you just stayed a little bit longer, you would have been in that merger with NXT and then in the real world with a saw your wrestling capability going against really fucking talented people. You know what I'm saying? And then bringing you up to the main roster, you probably would have got the intercontinental title. You going against fucking Gunther? Is it a moot? It's a it's a fucking dream match. Josh Alexander versus Gunther would have been a fucking dream match, okay? There's a lot of matches that with Gunther is a fucking dream match. But that one, ideally, as they are two pure fucking wrestlers. Pure. Um let's see. Uh the Alpha. Man, just go to New Japan, bro. Like, you just you just you that guy, but you that guy over there. Like, I I I don't see it happen to AEW. They're not gonna put the strap on you, they go keep you with Don Callis, and then you now you got this little flirtatious storyline with you and Okada and Okada, bitch. Like, what the fuck is going on? Like, how are we gonna how do we got a dynamic where it's one I think he's Canadian guy who is basically trying to choose which Japanese guy do I want to flirt with more? I don't know what the fuck is going on with that shit. It's just stupid. Uh, I think is it Brian Cage in there too? Yeah, he didn't know. Yeah. Aren't you supposed to be the machine? He got hair now, he got facial hair now.

SPEAKER_01: 1:19:15

No, no, no, no, no. You're you're you're getting Brian Cage mixed up with because uh you're um uh with the murder hawk guy.

SPEAKER_00: 1:19:22

Um no, yeah, he's in there, but I could have sworn Brian Cage was in there at one point. He was in a faction, and I you he was so unrecognizable because you know he always had the mohawk and he was babyfaced. He had cool beard.

SPEAKER_01: 1:19:36

I actually don't I don't I don't think he's actually I actually don't think he's in the Don Cowell's family.

SPEAKER_00: 1:19:40

I could have sworn he was, but either way, uh murderhawk, go to New Japan, bro. Like you would probably be a titan in New Japan, but you are literally a fragment of what you used to be in AEW, man. When AEW first started, you were a monster, and now you're just a bodyguard. Do you notice the difference in five, um, what, six years? How you went from being that guy to who is that guy? I don't know. Um, what else is who else is there? Anybody else is there besides Kyle Fletcher? I don't really see what AEW sees in him being in the next heavyweight champion. I don't see it.

SPEAKER_01: 1:20:22

So I looked it up real quick, and you are correct, actually. Brian Cage is there. Brian Cage is indeed a member of the Yeah, that's what I'm saying. If you look at him now, he does not look the same. I don't think Brian Cage has been on TV, though. No, but he is part of the Don Collis family. That's what I'm saying. At least as of the last time he was shown.

SPEAKER_00: 1:20:41

Either way, there's too many niggas in that faction.

SPEAKER_01: 1:20:45

He was specifically, he's been part of the Don Collis family for this month, would actually be a year. He's he would he joined it back in October.

SPEAKER_00: 1:20:53

And how many times have you seen him?

SPEAKER_01: 1:20:55

Uh that's a good question. Listen, I that's why I had to go to the great book of Google.

SPEAKER_00: 1:21:02

This is my frustration. Like, if you're going to create a faction that huge, it needs to be dominating the entire fucking promotion. Like how you apparently had the Death Riders at one point, which just like Swag said, and I had to come to this conclusion as I watched uh Dynamite and Collision. What's the fucking point of the Death Riders now? What is the point? There's no point, bro. And I hate that because I love Moxley, but what is the fucking point?

SPEAKER_01: 1:21:33

To to have uh, as some people call plunder matches to for your to get your death shit in, you know?

SPEAKER_00: 1:21:40

No, the sickos for the sickos. There you go.

SPEAKER_01: 1:21:43

For the sickos. That that's really what it is for the the the sickos as they call them. And they're apparently accepting that title, by the way. I mean, I mean, listen, fucking uh A Kingston was be was called king of the bums. He's accepted his title too. So it's like he apparently agrees. So hey, bro, listen. I hate the air that you breathe. Bro, like AEW AEW's uh sixth what dynamite. Dynamite. Their sixth anniversary. It was fun to watch, but there was nothing to watch. It was a circus show for the most part. Because like I said, Andrade came back and then he joined the Dog Callus family. Uh um El Khan.

SPEAKER_00: 1:22:40

The So you hear what happened about that? The clone thing? What? So what happened was it it the clone was made for hologram. Yes, hologram gets injured, which makes the clone obsolete because the whole premise was that is apparently Tony created hologram to have this really successful luchador who then the clone comes in and stops his reign. So if you've noticed, hologram has not lost a match.

SPEAKER_01: 1:23:08

Correct. That was they made that a big statement.

SPEAKER_00: 1:23:10

And the whole premise Tony wanted was to build this luchador so this fucking clone could be him, which is crazy.

SPEAKER_01: 1:23:18

Because it not because if what you're saying is true, because literally Kyle Kyle Fletcher was gonna have title versus streak. And what ends up happening almost conveniently, he gets injured, and they had to cancel the title versus streak match, and instead they gave it to Orange Cassidy. Which is where El Khan shows up and looks like hologram, but then and I it was funny because at first I was like, everyone's like, wait, hologram? I thought it was injured, he's back, and then I noticed how he's wearing like the blue mask, and it's like and then I noticed that like his tights gave it away for me. I noticed the tights were red, I'm like, uh, that's not hologram. That ain't him. And sure as shit, betrays what's his name, betrays orange, he gets the brain bustered turnbuckle DDT Northern Lights situation, and then he loses the match, and then he takes off the mask, and now he is a more rugged, tatted up version of hologram El Khan. And so, but he also joins the Don Callis family. The Don Callis family. Yeah, and you know what's about to be. You know what's funny to me? Watch how we see Mr. El Igolo leave WWE as he was thrusted into this unnecessary tag team uh uh uh conjunction with uh with Ray Phoenix. He gets put one with him just to come all the way to AEW to be thrusted in a tag team with another mass luchador in El Khan. I'm waiting for it. If it happens, my nigga, it's I'm waiting for it. And at that point, it's all like so. What you're telling me is you left WWE so that because AEW will let you stay on the gas, and they'll probably pay you a little bit more money for doing so. That's what you're trying to say.

SPEAKER_00: 1:25:42

And then also you can go to other promotions and win their titles. I guess there's that nobody gives a fuck about.

SPEAKER_01: 1:25:47

Yeah, because no one cares about.

SPEAKER_00: 1:25:49

Or I feel like Monet might actually challenge him for that belt.

SPEAKER_01: 1:25:52

No, no. The only person who is really allowed to probably walk around and be and be able to show off that they have these other tiles is Monet. That's what I'm saying. Because you know, Josh Alexander is a heavyweight champion of another promotion, right? No. Oh, you didn't know? Yes. So there's some there's a Canadian promotion.

SPEAKER_00: 1:26:10

And wait, is it the Maple one that uh Scott Damore wins? I think so. If it's that one, then yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_01: 1:26:16

Yeah, no, he he's he's actually a champion. He is the world heavyweight champion in another promo in another indie promotion. How come he can't walk around with his title?

SPEAKER_00: 1:26:29

Like, why why why we why we because he does he doesn't send Tony Khan feet pics. Ah, is that what it is? I mean shit. What else it is, what I'm saying? I guess. He's definitely not smashing.

SPEAKER_01: 1:26:44

So I need to get your opinion. On the what chance that Tony Storm was getting. Your favorite.

SPEAKER_00: 1:26:57

Are you wanting my opinion on was it was it justified or what like why it happened? Floor's yours. Give me what you feel. I uh I really feel like Tony.

SPEAKER_01: 1:27:09

You love those what chance, don't you?

SPEAKER_00: 1:27:10

Yeah, I do, I do, I do, I do. When they're when they're done right.

SPEAKER_01: 1:27:14

Oh, when they're done right.

SPEAKER_00: 1:27:15

Yeah, yeah, when they're done right. When when the wrestler is actually trying to push the narrative using it, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01: 1:27:23

See, but the thing is, outside of Stone Cold, who does that? Who?

SPEAKER_00: 1:27:29

Well, technically with Yeet, uh Jay's done it. Well, they'll say yeah that's yeet. Yeah, but it's not what it's the same thing, but even then, he's initiating it. That's not the same thing. No, no, no, because he's had times where he'll do a promo and he'll say something like I'll be going, yeet, but see, there's a but there's a control to it.

SPEAKER_01: 1:27:49

Because sometimes Jay, he'd be all like, oh wait, hold on, guys, hold on, let me let me get this off my chest. And they'll do that for him. All right, all right.

SPEAKER_00: 1:27:57

Okay, you're talking about the uncontrolled nature of what the what chance are.

SPEAKER_01: 1:28:01

Well, because that's just what has always been. It's been uncontrollable and unnecessary and a pain in the ass, and I still don't understand why it is being used at this day and age when the man who originally used it has been retired for quite some time now.

SPEAKER_00: 1:28:18

It's because it's an easy chance that the crowd can be a part of the show. But to answer your question with her promo, um I don't I don't think Tony, I think Tony needs to step away for a little bit. I feel like after that loss, she needs to be at least gone for a little bit to give other people shine. And this promo, while it was great, minus the what chance. Um, I feel like having her go against Chris, they're only doing it to solidify Chris's reign. Which I like the promo they did at collision because for once Chris Statlander gave us who she was, right? We knew she was the galaxy destroyer or whatever, all that stuff when she was the alien gimmick.

SPEAKER_01: 1:29:14

Which actually, funny enough, you brought that up because that was also gonna be my next question, question and thing I was gonna bring up. So she's an alien again.

SPEAKER_00: 1:29:23

Apparently. In which I'm like, okay, if you're gonna do that, cool. You're giving me something. You're not generic wrestler number five. Okay, you are the Galaxy Destroyer, the the one who breaks whatever. And I kind of I want to say a little bit, I was like, oh, we're back to that. Like, I'm watching the promo. Okay, cool. We have something now. So I got a little pop out of it. And I remember my wife was watching this. She's like, why are they laying on the ground? I'm like, you know what would suck if you bought tickets to watch this promo right now? And you just basically watching two people lay in a ring talk.

SPEAKER_01: 1:29:54

Uh, so I can with uh I can let you know that our. Our good friend uh LX, Lord Zay, he bought tickets to watch that promo. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:30:06

And imagine watching a promo of two motherfuckers you can't see no emotion of because they're laying on the fucking mat. I feel like this would have been a great backstage segment of like, say if uh Chris was stretching or something, and all of a sudden, like, I don't know where she lays next to her. Hello, Chris, and just like did it that way. Like, do it that way, but don't do it in the ring. The ring you're supposed to show the emotion and the the build of the promo, but if you're laying on the fucking floor, you just like two motherfuckers just talking.

SPEAKER_01: 1:30:41

I mean, that's kind of what they were. Yeah. It's it was definitely an interesting promo. Unorthodox, but I will say going into collision, that was the only thing worth seeing on collision, in my opinion. Because I mean, oh, we did at least get a response of why Danny joined the the Death Riders.

SPEAKER_00: 1:31:08

Basically, Daddy asked you, whack, and I'm around winners. And I'm like, around winners? Yeah, that that's that that got me.

SPEAKER_01: 1:31:16

I was like, Yeah, I was like, what? You were you're tired of being a loot. You're hanging around with a guy who lost the heavyweight title.

SPEAKER_00: 1:31:25

And also lost like two other matches. Like, I don't see where nobody in the team is holding any gold. If that's the case, join the ops. Yeah, at least they got they at least they got the belts.

SPEAKER_01: 1:31:39

At least, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00: 1:31:40

You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01: 1:31:41

But hey, he wants to be around winners, and I guess he sees the death riders as winners.

SPEAKER_00: 1:31:45

He honestly will honestly be more fitted with uh the DOA and Ricochet right now. They're losers too. What are you talking about? What I'm talking about like is in like the matching the appeal. Because he definitely don't yeah, because definitely don't look right as a death rider right now. The black shorts and black knee pads.

SPEAKER_01: 1:32:07

You're trying to put him with you said Ricochet. No, hell no. With Ricochet Gates of Agony? Yeah. You're gonna put this little white boy on that team? No. No, don't do that. That he he's not no, don't do that.

SPEAKER_00: 1:32:25

That's the dance would make more sense with them than it would with Death Riders, unless he's trying to push himself away from the dance, which made him over.

SPEAKER_01: 1:32:33

Which is what he's currently doing with the Death Riders, is because you know the dance wasn't getting him wins, apparently. And so, but apparently being over is way more important. Listen, uh, it's it's stupid, it's ugly, it's a problem. Freaking uh Eddie Kingston had a flop of a match. Like, who cares?

SPEAKER_00: 1:32:57

Did he backhand somebody? He did. There you go, it's your flop right there.

SPEAKER_01: 1:33:02

His backhand looks so bad, I don't like it. Like, like, Calition was just a bunch of nothing stuff.

SPEAKER_00: 1:33:09

But but what about dynamite? Because we we went from the dynamite to collision. So our shit, damn.

SPEAKER_01: 1:33:15

We per I personally did that because that because outside of Andrade coming back and Tony Storm's little promo, and I guess Stat Lander's an alien now, like what what what what happened for to for you on collision? Or I'm sorry, on on dynamite. What happened for you? What what what did you do? Besides Andrade. Besides Andrade and El Khan. Oh, and uh uh I guess uh uh um uh Mox and them are gonna have their uh you know the I quit match type thing. So there's this.

SPEAKER_00: 1:33:55

Which to me is stupid, because I mean like there are definitely two wrestlers who would never say that.

SPEAKER_01: 1:33:59

No, they're not, but you know what I'm what I'm imagining is that maybe their Mox is gonna like find somebody that Darby Allen is is affiliated with and cause hurt to them to make him say I quit or some dumb shit. Or maybe use an audio recording. Huh, that I wish they fucking would, bro. I I wish they would, because I would be I that would I would blow a gasket. I'm tired of them taking old shit from WWE and like do something different.

SPEAKER_00: 1:34:32

Do something new. Um you know what? It's funny you're you're saying this, you're bringing it to my attention because I wanted to bring something to your attention. Please do. So um last night I didn't watch collision. I mean, I I I watched highlights, but I didn't watch it. I I watched MLW Slaughterhouse. And that card was uh quite interesting. Okay. Would you like to know what uh Dragonoff? What is it not Dragonoff? Uh uh Feast Your Eyes. What's his fucking name? Um Feast Your Eyes uh John Cove what the fuck um god damn it, I can't think of his name right now. It's uh I know his his gimmick used to be Feast Your Eyes in NXT. If you see him, you'll know who I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_01: 1:35:25

But um he is currently You're talking about Dai Jacovic. There you go. I really had that to say his name, and I'm like, did all right, Dai Jacovic. Yes.

SPEAKER_00: 1:35:38

Yeah, it is. Sorry, I had an audio cut for a second, but I was trying to pull up um the uh the show, but they had a show just last night, I think it was their slaughterhouse, and one of the matches was a cage match where the loser has to get electrocuted on an electric chair.

SPEAKER_01: 1:36:02

Oh.

SPEAKER_00: 1:36:04

That sounds like a WCW match that was done years ago.

SPEAKER_01: 1:36:09

Yeah, I think they electrocuted uh Abdul the Butcher.

SPEAKER_00: 1:36:12

Yes. Yeah, but the person that got the the electrocution didn't even fully sit in the fucking chair. He kind of like was falling out the chair, and I I know who the person is, I don't want to throw it away until you just case if you want to watch it. Um, but as the the person's holding it, he's trying to push it on his head, but luckily he was able to showcase hey, his head's not touching it, he's putting his head in the way, and but it was just dumb. And he gets electrocuted, and uh that was the end of the match. It was a very fast match, very chaotic. There were two people from WWE you'll be very familiar with uh Chris Masters, which is now um forgot what his name was when I was watching it, but uh yeah, there was that that match. Matt Riddle had a match, and oh, bringing back to the reason why I brought up the previous guy, uh him and um why am I drawing blanks on names now? End of days.

SPEAKER_01: 1:37:14

Oh, um Baron Corbin.

SPEAKER_00: 1:37:15

Yeah, who goes by um Bishop now? Okay, he goes by Bishop. They are now a tag team called the skyscrapers, and then they're MLW tag team champions.

SPEAKER_01: 1:37:25

The skyscrapers, okay.

SPEAKER_00: 1:37:27

Yeah, got it. Yeah, uh that happened. Matt real Austin Aries is wrestling again, and he looks very hobo-y. Looks very much like a hobo now. I don't know. He used to be clean cut and everything. Now he just looks like he smokes a lot of weed and he's hobo. Got it. All right. Um what else? Very how I just wanted to say this much. The pay-per-view was very interesting. Uh, it was definitely something you would keep in the background, unfortunately. Because uh oh, sh uh Shotzi is it Shotzi Shorty? Shotzi. Shorty or Shotzi Shotzi, what's the shot? Shoty, she now has a segment called the Graveyard Shift, okay, which is like you know, the talk show segment and shit. So that's where I saw the skyscrapers were because they came out there, cut a promo in mid interview. By the way, the interview happens on the ramp, it doesn't happen in the ring like most of them. Um people come over there and start beating up the skyscrapers and bringing them backstage, and she's like, oh shit, oh shit, that just happened. All right, so I'm gonna bring out my next guest and my next guest and my next guest is this person. Who are the people that got who jumped? I don't fucking know. They didn't say who was, just apparently some people they might have been beefing with and just randomly come up on stage, start beating them, and pushing to the back. All right. So there's that, and then um at the end of her segment of Graveyard Shift. I feel so bad I don't know her name. Um Red Hair used to be in NXT. She just recently got released with red hair, yeah. Okay, regardless, she cuts a promo about beating her next week or whatever and licks the camera. Oh very product, very, very much like, oh, okay. I didn't know I was getting violated right now. All right, all right, yeah, but um I say all this is that this wackiness of this wrestling, I think was very it was much more appealing than what I saw in today's wrestling with WWE AEW is mainly because of the shock value of like, oh, that's what they're doing now. And or two, what the fuck is going on and why am I glued to how crazy this shit is?

SPEAKER_01: 1:39:54

That's fair. But that's because and that's the I I would just from based off what you said, it's the difference of people who are who've made it that are wrestling versus people who are making a name for themselves that are wrestling. That promotion, those are people who are who are in a position where they're getting ready to make that next step up. Because MLW is it's an indie promotion, but they're but they're really good, very popular, kind of thing, right? And and like that's that's like that, that's like that weird middle ground before you go to a AEW or a WWE or something. The issue is a lot of those people that were there are also people who used to be in WWE. Correct. And that's why it's like I said, it's like that next step up. It's like that, it's that weird, because there's a couple of different um promotions that kind of act as like this, like almost like a uh I think the word I want to use is like a uh uh stepping stone? No, not a stepping stone. Well proving grounds. It's like a stepping stone, more like a purgatory. Yeah, you know, like that that crossroads area. You know what I'm saying? You know, like there's uh, you know, where like that that space you're at before you go to heaven or hell, whichever particular company you want to consider your heaven or hell type situation, metaphorically speaking. But it's like it's that it's there's a couple of promotions that are like that middle area where you are a big enough name where people will watch this because you're super important and you just came from one of these uh because you're this is your all right, I'm going back into the indie scene, but this is the biggest indie scene stage. As where for some other people, they are coming up to this level, and now they are going from rubbing shoulders with they're rubbing shoulders with these upper echelon of people that will ultimately help them and give them the the names and the numbers that they need to go to AEW, New Japan fucking TNA type situation. And so those people are they're either trying to prove themselves that they are good enough to go to this to the next level, or they are people who are already at that level and they're proving themselves that they are still worthy of being at that level.

SPEAKER_00: 1:42:33

I'm sorry, when you said crossroads, I immediately thought, has anybody ever done a meme of Cody Rhodes doing the crossroads with the bone thugs and harmony song in the background? See you at a crossroads, young.

SPEAKER_01: 1:42:45

No, don't do that. I don't think so. And I'm glad nobody has. I think I might do it. I mean, Cody Raheem Rhodes, as much as I respect him, I need him. I don't need him and my bone thugs and harm.

SPEAKER_00: 1:42:59

Somebody doing this, ew gone. See you at the cross, and just do it, bro. Yeah, just do it. Just no. Yeah, I'ma do it. I'm gonna do it. All right, you're posting it on, I'm posting it on the Instagram.

SPEAKER_01: 1:43:12

There are so many other things you could be posting on the Instagram, and you're gonna waste it on that.

SPEAKER_00: 1:43:16

We need memes. Memes is what everybody loves foolishness. Memes are what everybody loves. Anyway, outside of that, do we have any other oh because you brought his name up?

SPEAKER_01: 1:43:27

I I'd like to know, uh, like you need to talk to your boy, um uh Mr. Riddle. Because he's out here acting a fool.

SPEAKER_00: 1:43:39

First off, that ain't my nigga. I have I have one interaction with him and gave him one edible. Uh, if anybody, story, that's his. You know what I'm saying? Like he met him in the Florida man games while he's running around in a speed-o. Um, but I had I had met Riddle one time, gave him an edible, and gave his wife a massage. That's about it. And uh yeah, I was supposed to be working with him where I he was like, yo, if you if I just paid you, like, would you just come over to the house and just give me massages and me and my wife? And I'm like, yeah, I can do that. Got his number and everything. And then then I text him, like, hey, here are my my hours, here, you know, this is what it works. Never messaged me back. So I was like, okay, it's cool. It's a one-off situation. You know?

SPEAKER_01: 1:44:22

At this point, go ahead and delete his number.

SPEAKER_00: 1:44:23

Oh, yeah, no, we did. Yeah, yeah, no, we did.

SPEAKER_01: 1:44:25

Go ahead and delete his number. Cause I have yet to add, like, I was uh I was on my to-do list to look up, but like I literally was, I think it was Friday I woke up. I'm scrolling on the news feed, and there's and I see him in a in an interview jacking this dude up, throwing him on the fucking table.

SPEAKER_00: 1:44:44

That was that was a TMZ shoot, and he put picked up the belt and walked the fuck out. Man, he's trying to do anything in wrestling to be relevant again. And this is normally the bad side of it all. Like, you you went from being in WWE and granted, you could have been sitting on some good checks if you just just weren't just weren't fucking up, man, with the with the wellness policy. Bro, I understand you a stoner. You not ra van dam, though. Like, Rob Van Dam probably would have got away with that shit, but not you.

SPEAKER_01: 1:45:17

Well, I don't know. He be doing harder shit than just the smoking, smoking. But like I I see like he has been in the news a lot recently for the most outland negative things, and it's just all like, bro, bro.

SPEAKER_00: 1:45:33

Come on. He's he's not like what he's doing is like he's that one friend that like you don't want to defend it, but it's like man, I don't know, man. He just goofy like that sometimes, bro. Just don't pay him on mine.

SPEAKER_01: 1:45:44

Like honestly.

SPEAKER_00: 1:45:45

That's really how you see Riddle and some of the shit you say. It's like like if I watch WrestleMania and I watch, you know, WrestleTalk and anybody else, D uh DDJ, I think is or Dinned Guy of Dreads. I know he's talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um anytime I'm watching them and I'm watching them talk about something with Riddle, um, top 10 wrestling too. By the way, shout out to all of them. They're like the main people I watch. Um anytime they talk about something about riddle, I'm just like, man, just can we not move on to the next part? I don't give a fuck about what that nigga's doing. Let him let him out, let him be stupid.

SPEAKER_01: 1:46:18

Like Matt Riddle stay out here. It's it but the crazy thing is, Matt Riddle's doing be doing things that would usually fuck up the bag. But somehow, he's still collecting. And I think that's the problem. Is the fact that he is still collecting. He's like, he's in this space where he's all like, well should I do whatever the fuck I want to do.

SPEAKER_00: 1:46:44

I'm still gonna get people are still gonna book me. Which is whatever. Which is the dumb thing at the end of the day. Stupid. But uh, I can't really say nothing too much about Matt Rutto. He is he is a lost cause, that's unfortunately. Like I said, it was really cool. It was really cool. I've met a lot of a lot of wrestlers at that location I worked at. Um especially the Dudley, well not Dudley's D Von, not yeah, D Von Dudley, his wife and his boys. And then Rob Van Dam was there, and then Matt Riddle was there. So uh a lot of the well, the Don one shocked me. That one shocked me. But R V D, yeah, that makes sense. Matt Riddle, yeah, that makes sense. Um, and then D Von's boys, once I knew why they were there, yeah, that makes sense. They were here, they were there for my hairdresser. Ah, got it. Yeah. Pretty much any any guy sees my hairdresser, they're just like trying to, they're trying to risk it all.

SPEAKER_01: 1:47:41

I mean, that's fair.

SPEAKER_00: 1:47:42

Yeah, they're trying to risk it all. She's been working out. Uh-huh. Getting good. Yeah. I mean, she was already good, but yeah, she's better, I guess you can say. Either way, um, health is wealth. I understand now. I'm trying to work on mine. But anyway, uh, any final segments for the episode that we are this definitely was a wacky wild world of wrestling type shit.

SPEAKER_01: 1:48:04

It's the story is missing in wrestling, and it's making wrestling really hard to talk about, I'll be honest. Like it without talking negatively. Correct. Or having something to talk about in general. Like, AEW, there's nothing really that I feel is worth like really going into about. Like, there's no there's nothing happening in AEW that I can be all like, let's talk about this. Outside of how booking should be done. Or how goofy that segment was, or how goofy, or how nothing is making sense, or how why are we going this direction when y'all literally just had this? Like, the one thing I did not bring up Samoa Joe having this random hissy fit because of the blind tag, and homie dropped his belt, and now Samoa Joe feels so disrespected that now he's all like, nah, we gotta fight now. I'm like, Samoa Joe, come on, bro. Now, someone was trying to tell me the fact that Samoa Joe's always been like that. I'm like, I feel this was rushed. Like, but I'm not even gonna open up that can of worms because that that talking about booking is a whole topic on itself with what's happening in wrestling right now. So maybe we can talk about it at a later time. But overall, uh fam, bring stories back to wrestling, bro. Please.

SPEAKER_00: 1:49:35

I will have to second that because as we continuously send each other this message and messenger, it's just shack meme after shack meme after shack meme. Y'all don't realize what we say, man. You'll watch wrestling and we we'll watch wrestling and then we'll also game at the same time because trying to put that energy into like, okay, I'm gonna pay attention to what's going on. You you get fucked every time. Like, you're like, man, I I'm gonna pay attention and just watch wrestling. Okay, that was stupid. That was stupid. I mean, just turn on the game real quick, man. What the fuck, man? Like, something because otherwise you will find yourself actually sleeping. I mean, I ain't gonna lie, I did fall asleep during that MLW shit, but that you know, but that that was because it was late at night. It was because of late at night that had nothing to do with the wrestling. Uh, one of my favorite wrestlers in there, uh Lil Kaiju. I'll talk about her in the future, but she's dope as shit. Anyway, uh, that is gonna be it here for us at the Big Brother So Destruction podcast. Guys, let us know what your opinions are with wrestling right now. Is it snooze fest? Is it hype? And if it is, please give us examples in the comment section so we can actually maybe revisit them and say, okay, maybe you're right, but we're probably not going to. Say you're right, but we'll we'll we'll analyze it, see the situation.

SPEAKER_01: 1:50:51

Please give us a reason. Give us a reason. Tell me why the sixth anniversary of AEW was balls to the wall amazing. Tell me. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:51:01

Anybody. You know, it also reminds me of me having to convince and show you why Kenny Omega was that nigga at one point. You had to watch New Japan stuff to do that. But you damn sure can see that in AEW. Anyway, uh come back here next week as we're going to be doing book, bump, or bury again. And I'm gonna be trying to break uh swag because uh I gotta make him like think about an answer that's like, oh man, that's a tough one. That's that's the goal here. But till next time, remember, guys, the ring is sacred. The questions are real, but the destruction is guaranteed. We will see you see you here next week at the Big Brothers of Destruction podcast, because it's the Masa Cool.

SPEAKER_01: 1:51:42

And it's your boy, Swag Switcher, in the building.

SPEAKER_00: 1:51:46

And we are out till next time.