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Story is the heartbeat. We open with a simple challenge to every promotion: give us a why, or even the best moves fade by Monday. From AEW’s Continental Classic to NXT Deadline and TNA Final Resolution, we trace where the week soared and where it stumbled—and why New Japan’s quiet, faction-driven storytelling might be the clearest blueprint for stakes that stick.

We break down Collision’s standout: Moxley vs Takeshita, a pay-per-view caliber fight that proves ring work can still feel urgent when the moment matters. Then we ask the harder question—why are so many angles ignoring consequences? When a brutal plunder match leaves zero next-day scars, fans stop investing. Swerve vs Hangman remains the bright counterexample: motives are clear, respect is complicated, and every promo moves the feud forward.

On NXT, Oba Femi’s course correction made sense, even if the detour didn’t. The Iron Survivor matches showcased potential—with the women’s field edging the men in aura and urgency—yet exposed how much a single star can carry an entire segment. Over in TNA, a flat card found its spark in Leon Slater vs AJ Francis, a tightly told David vs Goliath that lived by timing and selling. Elsewhere, ref logic and uneven stipulations chipped away at credibility, reminding us that titles and toys are not stories on their own.

Then we look to New Japan for a masterclass in narrative economy: factions with long memory, Young Lions who learn by losing, commentary that threads context as the bell rings. You don’t need loud backstage skits when aura, grudges, and pacing do the heavy lifting. That cohesion is why even Tag League can pull you in and keep you there.

If you care about wrestling that remembers what happened last week, this conversation is for you. Subscribe, share with a friend who loves long-term storytelling, and drop a comment: which promotion told the most compelling story this week—and why?

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Chapters

• 0:00 Welcome, Motto, And Thesis: Story Matters
• 1:12 Booker T Backlash And NXT Frustrations
• 3:06 Weekend Watchlist: NXT, TNA, ROH, Collision
• 4:13 Collision Highlight: Moxley vs Takeshita
• 6:10 AEW’s Continental Classic And Missing Plot
• 9:04 Swerve vs Hangman: Proof Story Still Works
• 12:45 Hardcore Overload And Consequences That Don’t Stick
• 16:40 WarGames vs Blood & Guts: Stars And Stakes
• 21:05 TNA Final Resolution: Dry Card, Bright Spots
• 25:20 Leon Slater Shines; Referee Logic Rant
• 28:36 Hardy Boyz Nostalgia And TNA Presentation
• 31:45 NXT Deadline: Oba Femi, Iron Survivor Takes
• 36:12 Women’s Iron Survivor, Prospects, And Booking
• 40:18 Retirement Angles Fatigue And Main-Event Bottleneck
• 44:32 New Japan 101: Factions, Aura, And Commentary
• 49:20 Young Lions Logic And Cohesive Progression
• 53:18 Tag League Teams, House Of Torture, And Never Title
• 57:40 Why Story Is The Why
• 1:02:00 Closing Mantra: Keep Story Alive

Transcript

SPEAKER_04: 0:00

For for those who are watching, make your voices be heard. Keep story alive in wrestling, please. Because without story, wrestling is just two guys slapping meat.

SPEAKER_01: 0:13

Whoa. Whoa. Whoa.

SPEAKER_05: 0:28

Welcome to another episode of the Big Brothers of Destruction podcast. It's the Masaku. It's your boy, Swag Switch in the building. Um, I think I got a saying now. It's it's the it's the demon that leaves your bitch Fiending. The Masaku. I don't know. I'm just working on some shit. The demon that leaves you. I was gonna say creaming, but like I feel like I'll be Joe Gertner. I feel like I'll be Joe Gertner from the Deli boys at this point. It's Joe Gertner who works. You know, like I already got the neck thing on it. I don't have the neck brace, have the necklace, you know?

SPEAKER_04: 1:07

Work in progress.

SPEAKER_05: 1:08

Work in progress. But uh, you know what is a work in progress? This fucking week of wrestling, bro.

SPEAKER_04: 1:14

A work in progress.

SPEAKER_05: 1:16

Yeah, they're trying to work, but failed. That's why it's called progress. They trying.

SPEAKER_04: 1:22

Let me I got I woke up around eight o'clock ish today. Around nine o'clock, I started watching the NXT paper.

SPEAKER_05: 1:35

I couldn't make it past the fucking entrance of Uba Femi. Why not? Because of Booker T. Oh yeah, man. Oh yeah, man. Oh yeah. I'm like, bro, if you aren't in any broadcast, I'm not watching it now. I cannot stand Booker T. Bro. He does not make commentary fun. He, as a black man, you know, we all they always say they don't want to be the tropes or whatever, but you doing the oh yeah, man, that the funky, you know, hit black guy type shit, bro. Like, come on, bro. It's just like it's whack. So it's like stop.

SPEAKER_04: 2:08

Would you rather uh him bring back his TNA persona?

SPEAKER_05: 2:11

Uh black black snow? Cause he'd be like, Black Snow, man. You know, it was goofy, but this is not goofy, this is just cringe.

SPEAKER_04: 2:25

So it cause because it's it's definitely still so Booker T right now is he has taken that extra step past goofy to cringe for you, is what it's yes, because a lot of times the glazing of certain people, it's like, bro, that's a little too much.

SPEAKER_05: 2:45

I know you're supposed to be the color commentator, but Booker, yo, chill it out.

SPEAKER_04: 2:50

No bread, no water, just me.

SPEAKER_05: 2:56

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just shit like that. Well, so I'm glad okay. So I'm glad to know you watched the deadline pay-per-view.

SPEAKER_04: 3:06

Yes, I did.

SPEAKER_05: 3:06

I watched the TNA Revolution uh Final Resolution. So after I watched NXT, I spent the next three hours watching the TNA pay-per-view. Which one you want to talk about first? Because I'm gonna rant about the TNA one.

SPEAKER_04: 3:24

Oh, I'm not done, because after I finished watching the TNA pay-per-view, I said, fuck Ring of Honor, because that's four hours of nonsense, and I barely know any of them. Plus, tell me you watch New Japan. So I have been watching New Japan.

SPEAKER_05: 3:43

Let's go! But I did not watch the newest episode. I want you to build up like I have, that's why I gave you the November 22nd, so that way you can kind of watch it and start getting used to because it's the same guys, but just different matches and different scenarios.

SPEAKER_04: 4:00

So you so I I actually had the choice because I was going to watch New Japan, but then I realized if I don't watch Collision, nobody will. So I watched Collision instead. Okay. Which I will say Collision had quite the treat.

SPEAKER_05: 4:26

John Moxley versus Takeshka. Tonoscape Takeshka?

SPEAKER_04: 4:32

Yes. Fam that that match? Goddamn. Oh, it was a it was a slab or knocker? Fam, that match was a fucking banger. Okay. That they just fucking a collision of all play. That was a pay-per-view level match.

SPEAKER_05: 4:54

I mean, Tekesh normally be throwing those out, though.

SPEAKER_04: 4:57

Bro, against John Moxley, you would have thought that they was fighting for that that new Japan title. The way that they was going at it, bro. Like, I mean, that match. That match was worth the dumb shit that has happened this week. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_05: 5:21

It was the bacon in the dump in the shit sandwich.

SPEAKER_04: 5:25

Fam, it was so imagine if you just push the shit sandwich to the side and you just had like a nice like medium-sized batch of like Checkers fries. Alright? Like the match.

SPEAKER_05: 5:40

Okay, so it's the shit sandwich and the fries on the side.

SPEAKER_04: 5:43

The fries the fries on the side was John Moxley and Takeshka. Alright. That match was fucking delicious. Okay I really didn't care about anything else on uh on collision so much. I mean, granted, Mercedes, she's lost her title. Well, yeah, so she lost her title at the Ring of Honor pay-per-view. But and this is one of the things that bothers me with AEW, right? Because, like, which let me also say, when it comes to AEW, right? I think AEW has given up. On story. They've just said, you know what? Fuck it. We don't care. We're not doing it. We're just, we're AEW's where the best wrestle, and there's a period at the end of that sentence. All right. They've just I I feel like they've given up on story.

SPEAKER_05: 6:44

It's so basically it's like watching the Olympics. Not well, I mean what I'm saying is like you're watching traditional wrestling in this purity of it, but there's no story because you're just watching athletes be athletes.

SPEAKER_04: 6:57

Honestly, that's what it feels like right now. So it's like they're having this continental classic, and now I'm new to New Japan right now, but it's like with the way while I'm watching New Japan, I'm trying to get an understanding of how New Japan kind of presents their wrestlers and their story kind of thing. It's one of those things where now, grant, because of the fact, like I'm I'm I'm just jumping in right now, it's like uh because number one, the New Japan wrestling is fantastic. Um but it's like there is there is story there, and even though it's mostly unspoken story, or if anything, I would say the announcers kind of sort of like while you're watching a match, the announcers are pretty much painting a picture for you while you watch this match of what is happening between these people, yeah. And so, which I feel that which if I continue to watch New Japan, I'll probably catch more wind of some of these things. Because sometimes at the end of the match, they do have like a little where they'll talk about something or they'll say something kind of thing. And I know because of the fact there's all these different factions in there, yeah, it's like certain factions have had certain wars going on, and I've I see that there's certain tensions going on within certain factions happening and stuff like that. House of torture. And so it's like there's like small there there is story, even though it's not story in the sense of how us uh westerners are used to and whatnot, there is something cohesive that is happening from event to event to event to event. There is something cohesively happening that creates some kind of story that does get you invested in the match that is being had, even if it is as something as small as the fact of the Great Khan.

SPEAKER_05: 9:18

The Great O'Connor?

SPEAKER_04: 9:19

The Great O'Conn, for all intents and purposes, lost his tag team match against um um what was his name? Uh uh Zack Saber Jr.

SPEAKER_05: 9:32

TM TMDK.

SPEAKER_04: 9:33

They lost their match because Great O'Conn was so obsessed with specifically wanting to beat Zack Saber Jr. that he screwed himself out of that match, kind of thing.

SPEAKER_02: 9:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 9:46

And it was like, once again, the commentators kind of helped fill in those pieces, and they said the fact of how in the past, every time they meet, the Great O'Conn can't beat him. And then, of course, when this match comes around, Great O'Conn gets to a certain point where he's in the match and he's not tagging when he needs to tag because he just he's so fixated on really wanting to beat Zack Saber Jr. mm-hmm just to fucking lose.

SPEAKER_05: 10:12

And it's cool because I don't I don't want to tell you what happens later on, but then you he's going to get a moment and he's gonna look at the camera and it's like finally, yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 10:25

And so, but I say all of that to now present the fact that I see the story that New Japan has. We all know the story that WWE has. It might be ass, but it is story. Yeah, it might be easily predictable, but there is story. And sometimes, because of the fact it's so predictable, there's that possibility that maybe it's not actually as predictable as we're thinking this story is about to be, which is the reason why it leads us to watching stuff like fucking Survivor series and realizing, wow, no, this was actually just a hot steaming pile of dog shit. But I watched it anyway because I had to see what was gonna happen. AEW their cohesiveness of story is so non-existent, and it's just like they it's almost like they create they they create a story and they leave it incomplete, or it retcon it, or ratcon it, yeah, and just act as if that something past didn't happen. And there are moments where things will happen in AEW where it will call back to a time when the AEW did do stories, but it's only for a brief moment, and then it's just for them to be all like, nah, I'm over that now, type shit.

SPEAKER_05: 12:05

Like, like, I mean, we all could say the perfect story in AEW now is Swerve and Hangman. That story is just perfect.

SPEAKER_04: 12:16

That story is perfect, and they are doing everything that they can to preserve its integrity. So, when you think about that particular story right now, they are currently in a space because once again, on collision, we got a beautiful promo from goddamn swerve. Swerve came out there and he comes out and he acknowledges he does the thing where he talks about why he's back and what he's going to do being back, and then he makes the point of pointing out the fact that yes, me and Hangman got problems, and we don't really see eye to eye, and we probably never will. However, I respect him enough, and I hate the people who he's going up against. So, how about we put all that shit aside from before and let's team up and we're gonna fight and do what we gotta do. However, after we do that, you and I need to have a sit-down and we need to have a really long talk. And that him acknowledging all of that, and then saying we're gonna team up, but afterwards, we got some things to talk. That right there is putting a pin on it, is putting a pin on it, it's telling a story, it is furthering their story, and it's giving me a reason to want to see what's gonna happen in this match coming up. That's all I'm looking forward to right now when it comes to AEW.

SPEAKER_05: 13:54

Because they're not doing story, but what about Mark Briscoe almost getting sent to the Don Callis family?

SPEAKER_04: 14:05

Who cares? Yep. That there's that that right now, what's happening with that right now?

SPEAKER_05: 14:11

Uh well, he won the match, so he's not being in the city.

SPEAKER_04: 14:13

I mean, yeah, well, he's got the belt right now, but there's really nothing kind of going on with that currently. And so it's like, all right, whatever. He's there, it's just there. Because once again, everything is being specifically taken up by the Continental Classic. Yep. And all the Continental Classic is, is just a whole bunch of we're the greatest wrestle. Yep. That's that's all the which means they're like, hey, story, shh, wrestling. Look at all this beautiful wrestling. Look at all of that. Another, like going off of that bit, right? So we've been watching John Moxley lose these matches, right? Mm-hmm. There was a brief moment where there was all like there, it looked like there might be tensions in the, you know, in their group and stuff like that, right? You know, and then it's like, and then it just goes away. Gone. Poof.

SPEAKER_05: 15:17

He loses to Claudio Castanoli. Which they even tried to add story in there with Brian, uh Brian Danielson saying that the reason why Moxley was the leader is because he couldn't beat him, and nobody else could beat him. Yes, I heard that.

SPEAKER_04: 15:33

And then what do we do after the match? Claudio Castanoli goes to the back and they're doing push-ups with some dumb shit. And then John Moxley comes and he does push-ups too. And then they all do push-ups. And then they uh they wrap it up and they leave. So we're just not going to address the fact that John Moxley lost his man. We're not going to address the fact that John Moxley lost at Blood and Guts War Games. We're just gonna We're not going to address the fact that that Pac is out here being a better looking leader than John. Alright, cool, cool. Now I'm curious to see what's gonna happen now, because now he just lost to Takeshka. So or maybe we're just gonna skip past that as well, too, and just act like it nothing happened.

unknown: 16:31

Skip!

SPEAKER_05: 16:32

Um, that's kind of how I've been uh doing with a lot of AEW right now. Just skip.

SPEAKER_04: 16:37

And uh people wonder why I fall asleep while trying to watch it or something. I will I literally watch Dynamite while playing video games on stream. And it's like it because because just sitting there watching it, there's there's nothing there's nothing grabbing and holding me to watch right now. Now I will also I I gotta I gotta uh I gotta talk shit about your your girl because Tony Storm and and and uh Amina in that in that minnow in that Christmas fucking hardcore match bullshit that they had, like fuck was all that, man.

SPEAKER_05: 17:23

Everybody gets one. Spider-Man says so. Oh, everyone gets one, huh? Spider-Man says so.

SPEAKER_04: 17:26

That's that's that's how that's that's how we're attacking that one, eh? Everybody gets one. Alright, alright, alright. Yeah, no, now when I think about how this tag team thing is going, right? It's literally just to give Tony Storm and her the goat. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, because number one, uh Will Nightingale and and and uh and and Harley. Yep, number one, I God, I I love Harley, but man, she's ass, bro.

SPEAKER_05: 17:58

Like and I think I really that blood and guts match was the first time I've ever seen her wrestle, and I'm like, why is she in this match?

SPEAKER_04: 18:11

Harley and Willow, when they had their match against the Sisters of Sin, that was the most obviously choreographed match I've seen in quite some time, and they were not hitting it at all. And then to follow it up with which to me, I'm a lot of people talk about this, talk shit about it, and I'm I'm kind of on that same tip because I'm just like, okay, you're in a tag team tournament, the stipulations of the tag team tournament is if you lose, you're eliminated from the tournament. How is it fair that in the midst of this tournament now, though I kind of sort of answered my own question here, but I'm gonna say it out loud anyway. How is it fair that these two get to have a regular match and go to the finals? But then this group of people have this Christmas hardcore bullshit match with glass and stitch plunder, glass and shit is crazy. But it's like they they have this the as it's called a this plunder match, this Christmas plunder match, Bobwire candy canes and all this dumb stuff, right? They have all of this, and then they have this match. Now, when you think about the type of stuff that happens in these kind of matches and the kind of weapons that they're using, it doesn't matter who wins. In actuality, don't you think that'll put you at a disadvantage going up against the team that had a regular fucking match?

SPEAKER_05: 19:56

Yeah, because you banged up and bruised.

SPEAKER_04: 19:58

You're post you're banged up, you're bruised. You got glass in your ass and in your cooter. You got fucking bob wire laced in your fucking hair. But of course, my answer to this was the fact that this is AEW. Those matches don't actually hurt you anymore. You just, you know, you have those matches.

SPEAKER_05: 20:20

And then it's the game. It's literally the game. You had that bloody match.

SPEAKER_04: 20:23

You had that bloody match. And then when you uh you hit the reset button, and then like everything is just fine. You can pick the character, and none of the damage from that particular thing carries over to the next. And it obviously didn't because once again on collision, they had a little uh conversation with each other, the two teams, the two final teams and whatnot, and like, yeah, no, Tony Storm and Ogir, that like nothing ever happened. Like they didn't just what two, three weeks ago have a big old blood and guts match where they was beaten with belts and ran through glass, and and then of course, literally just what Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, three days prior, they didn't just have a whole hardcore Christmas match with Bobwire, glass, and and all this other stuff. Like nothing happened. Like nothing happened, and that's AEW's problem. That is that is truthfully their problem. They don't want to do story, and they because they're lacking in this story, they have to fill it with something else, and that's deathmatch indie garbage, as they like to call it. And it's because of that AEW is progressively getting harder to watch and enjoy. Because I never thought I would get sick of seeing hardcore shit.

SPEAKER_05: 21:57

That is that is wild. That is wild.

SPEAKER_04: 22:01

I never thought that I would watch a hardcore match and feel nothing from it. And that's what it and the problem is it's it's having a horrible effect because AEW is ruining hardcore shit for other promotions for me.

SPEAKER_05: 22:19

Apparently, yeah, because of WWE's War Games, and that was ass because now granted, WWE's War Games was ass regardless. Well, I mean, it was ass, but then the fact of you just saw blood and guts and you know what a match like this could be.

SPEAKER_04: 22:33

Yes, and that and and and that added to how much more garbage that war games survivor series was. Yeah, it added to it. If if I probably would not have complained, and I would have probably slightly enjoyed Survivor series just slightly more if I did not watch Blood and Guts.

SPEAKER_05: 22:56

If you if if Survivor series would have came out first, yes, and then watch Blood and Guts, you could be like, oh, well, we just saw, oh, they turned this one up. Pretty much. That's exactly what would have happened. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 23:07

Exactly what would have happened.

SPEAKER_05: 23:08

Yeah, you'd have but you'd have been able to enjoy both for what they were.

SPEAKER_04: 23:12

Yeah. A little bit better. A little bit, yeah, 100%. That but instead, because one came before the other, it was like, cuz when you look at when you when you compare them together, they all both had their big glaring problems. Yeah. It's almost and it's almost like their big glaring problems are almost like the opposites of each other. The men's blood and guts match had no superstars. Yeah. Had no one who was of great importance in it. It was a bunch of mid-carters, Pac and John Moxley. And Moxley's technically the only star. Who? Yeah, yeah, and and oh yeah, and of them, John Moxley is the only actual superstar. Yeah. I just say pack because he can do no wrong.

SPEAKER_05: 24:02

Oh, yeah, no, he can't.

SPEAKER_04: 24:04

But you're out of time. But it's like, but everybody else, they were they're all, they're like, I don't want to call them jobbers.

SPEAKER_05: 24:14

But they're pretty close.

SPEAKER_04: 24:16

But they're all, but yeah, they're all like solid mid-card people.

SPEAKER_05: 24:20

Some of them are uh uh uh uh main event jobbers, though. Because like I hate as much as I love Orange Cassidy, I love him as a character, as a wrestler. For a while he was goofy, but like when you actually see he can go, it's like no, I respect him more. I can get I can get behind the goofy a little bit as long as he gets to actually wrestle. And he is a main event jobber.

SPEAKER_04: 24:40

Yeah, no, he yeah, uh hundred percent.

SPEAKER_05: 24:42

He's over as fuck, but he's not getting title.

SPEAKER_04: 24:46

Yeah, definitely main event jobber status, but it was like where they had just it was like a bunch of mid-cars with no stars, the guy's war games match was nothing but stars.

SPEAKER_05: 25:00

And then it was like with I don't know about that J Usa shit with Teddy, yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 25:07

Most of them were just stars, yeah, yeah. And then it's like when you look at the female one, it's like the female blood and guts match, aside from Mercedes Monet and fucking Statlander, there was a story and a reason why these women need to be in a blood and guts match. Where in WWE, there was really no story and truly no reason outside of women have to have a war games match. Yep. That was the only reason why the women's war games match happened. And the and the unfortunate part about it is that women's war games match happened, and at this point, we can probably easily say if you've seen one women's war games, you've seen them all.

SPEAKER_05: 25:54

Yep. EO Sky will do the same spot every year, no matter what.

SPEAKER_04: 26:01

Yeah. So it's like wrestling this week has been has I feel like wrestling this week has been showing their colors and just double downing on the fact that this year has been the worst year. Uh what I say, well, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, this this year has definitely been, I won't say the worst year, because I have to look deep into it, but this year is definitely one of the worst years of wrestling. And what's crazy is the fact that prior years, AEW was not added to that mix. And so with the addition of AEW and TNA, they're trying. They are they're gonna talk we can talk about revolution, we could talk about it. They are ready, but it's like, and then in New Japan, they've just been unfortunately in this down state for so long.

SPEAKER_05: 27:12

Because they don't have any stars.

SPEAKER_04: 27:13

They have they yeah, they have no stars.

SPEAKER_05: 27:16

Yeah, they have no stars, they don't have any stars, just like how AEW does not have any stars, which is which is weird though, because they literally had Sonata who's in the House of Torture, he was their heavyweight champ like two years ago, and now he's walking around wielding a guitar and and and just smelling slamming it on people. I'm like, what happened to Sonata who had the heavyweight title? Which when he had it, I definitely didn't want him with the belt, but like you're creating a star by giving him the belt, and now he's like a main event jobber with the house of torture now. Like, I don't see him doing anything, and then they were also trying to get um uh Yota, like they gave him they got him with the global title right now, which I will admit I did not like him the first time I saw him because I don't like how his gimmick is his smile, like his whole thing is just the that was that was it. Every time he came out, he would just smile, right? So I didn't watch a lot of the program to know who he is as a person, but all I could see is anytime he would come out, he would just do the smile. But nowadays, every time he comes out, he doesn't really do the smile, it's just that's all I've ever known him for. But he's growing on me because one, I kind of actually like his theme song, and for for me to enjoy you as a wrestling fan, there are some components that need to happen. One, if you got a fire theme song that helps, that that that will boost you to at least a 60 to me. The theme song fire you a 60, right? Off right, off real. But then he also can't go, so he's kind of like he's growing on me now, and then seeing him every week in this uh this tag league, even though Gabe Kid's Gabe Kid, um seeing him, he the way he's coming out to the ring, he looks like a star who is babysitting somebody, yeah, like dead ass. Every time he comes out, he's either one, he's kind of pulling a rock moment. You know how sometimes Rock used to come out with the the sports uh with the sports attire with the the shirt and shit, and then some days he'll come out the rock in in the trunks and you know his whole gear. That's what he looks like sometimes with gay kid. Gay kid comes out the same way every time he'd be like, No, I'm gonna sport the um the new Japan jacket. Oh no, I'm gonna sport my red jacket with the fedora. I'm gonna sport my shit. He looks like a star sometimes when he comes out, and then gay kid. Because it's like I'm chaperoning gay kid. I'm literally chaperoning gay kid. And it looks like that every time they come out, gay kid's like he looks like kid just bouncing around, and then Yoda comes out with the belt.

SPEAKER_03: 30:02

That's how it looked.

SPEAKER_05: 30:04

He's babysitting that nigga. So uh, but no, but I'll get to New Japan because I I'm curious and definitely hearing. Uh let's let's leave let's leave right now to the ranting or the uh frustrations of wrestling, and then let's have fun talking about cool things that's going on wrestling. So uh the TNA pay-per-view, you saw it. I did first match. I don't I as much I'm not trying to hate on Mike Santana. I I would like for him to thrive as a wrestling fan. You don't want nobody to be shit on and having a bad career or being put in bad situations. No, you want a wrestler to thrive. How did this man go from having the fucking TNA title to now wrestling jobbers as the first match on the card?

SPEAKER_04: 30:52

So, what I'm thinking is going on right now, because there's like this small group of NXT people who are just invading and attacking uh uh three matches were based on that. And it's like I'm what I'm thinking is the fact that because he still has claim to go for the title, but there's a part that feels like he's trying to get his lick back from the other people screwing him out of his title match, but his momentum is shot to me because of that. Oh, 100%. Yeah, I I agree with you on that because it's like, but I also feel there's a part of me that feels because as we know, TNA's about to get that TV did.

SPEAKER_05: 31:38

They did, they are AMC starting January 15th.

SPEAKER_04: 31:41

There it is. Yeah, so with because of that piece, there's a part of me that feels that like they are wanting to take him and kind of sort of like it's almost like they want to like rebuild him up to try and go back for the title while they do other shit with the title in the meantime or something.

SPEAKER_05: 32:09

I think opposite. A part of me feels like it's almost like how New Japan has their young lions come out there with the stars. I feel like because Mike Santana, he has an audience, he has momentum. Let's put him up with some NXT talent, get him in the ring, get them some spotlight, because you're gonna like as a fan, you would watch a Mike Santana match, right? You won't probably watch two newbies in the ring. You'll watch a match with Mike Santana and a newbie, maybe. He might not get that much offense, he might, but he gets a chance to be in a ring with an experienced vet and get a little bit of shine, just like the young lions in New Japan. They get those moments where it's just the two young lions, and I don't know if you notice it, there's some times where the actual stars will sit out outside the ring and just on the apron. And I'm like, aren't y'all supposed to be acting like this tag match? Y'all just like, I think I'm just waiting to for the spot, or I'm just letting these young lions just go. And I've noticed.

SPEAKER_04: 33:06

No, I've seen that. I've seen that. Man, there was one you saying that reminds me. Oh, see, I got I got it.

SPEAKER_05: 33:15

Uh Diego, he he has he wears the fitted and he's like wearing the unaffiliate affiliated. Actually, I think so. Yeah, he's cool. I don't I don't know something about him because he is a young lion and they're not supposed to wear gear, yet he's wearing gear.

SPEAKER_04: 33:28

Like, there was because definitely him. And I there was uh who was it, Shingo and uh Driller? Because I think he runs with them. The well this the see the one match that I saw that uh that had the young, it was like it ended with uh like one of the actual New Japan wrestlers. He I think they the the match finished, he had him in a he finished him in a figure four leg log.

SPEAKER_05: 33:53

Oh, it was uh somebody from the House of Torture, because I think I know you're talking about Yes. Uh the guy was spitting alcohol, uh Dick. Dick Tongo, or whatever it's like.

SPEAKER_04: 34:01

Like that particular match, like like how it was like as it was coming to an end, because and it's so funny with the new Japan guys, like when like when they're going up against a young lion, like in that particular moment, it there was like a moment where it's like the young lion looked like he was he was getting ahead of steam, and he was really getting in there, and it's like he was making his comeback, and then the new Japan guy was all like, You're good, but I'm better. Yeah, and then literally just like put him down, knocked him down, locked him in the uh four figure, and he was like, And he had the tap, and it was just all like, Yeah, you're still a young lion, you're good, but you're not. And that's what I love about it, but like, because like the way the way he beat him, it was one of those deals where it's like I could see his face, he was like, Oh, oh, this guy's not that bad. I need to finish this now.

SPEAKER_05: 34:55

Yeah, and I like that because it gives because and also they're they're losing to simple moves because they're still young, they're still building up to that ability to kick out of two finishers.

SPEAKER_04: 35:07

Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like, like as I'm watching, I'm like, I fuck with this young lion thing. Like, I and the way that the way that they're doing it, I think, is actually really cool and interesting.

SPEAKER_05: 35:18

Yeah, if you give him that spotlight with the the crew, because it's like it's not like they're randomly selected with teams. They're like, uh like with Shingo, he has um one of the young lions who's like under him, and he's been in their uh uh um what do they keep calling them? Uh matches, uh preview matches and stuff like that. And so these young lions are still wrestling with the same people every time. And to see them and how they flow, they'll always have those moments where it's like, all right, both young lions are going at it now. And or the third person in the tag match will go at it, like uh Gato or whatever will go against a young lion, just like how you said in those situations, and then they'll get a Powerbomb or a Chokeslam or Boston Crab, and that's it. And they normally take the pins, which is okay.

SPEAKER_04: 36:04

And and another thing, not to only because we brought it, we'll go back to uh to uh whatchamacallit. I I s I spoke of it before, and now that I've watched some of uh uh now that I've actually watched some of New Japan, it's uh it's been doubled down. And it is the fact, the the whole fact and the idea of that New Japan folk they have aura. Very powerful aura. Because I brought this up when I was talking about how why Asuka is so good, and why when she first came, she did not have to say anything. You just understood from her demeanor, her swagger, and her catchphrase what she was about, and that she was a bad bitch, and you need to stand clear of her, type thing. And so it was like that, and then watching New Japan, and I'm seeing like the actual New Japan stars, it's it's that weird, unspoken thing where it's just like I don't understand what they're saying, and for all intents and purposes, right now, they're not doing a whole bunch of talking, they're coming down to the ring, and just from them coming down to the ring, I'm like, I get him.

SPEAKER_05: 37:31

I like this ice, I like this guy as a the knockout brothers, bro. Oscar be just he he be in that Undertaker stance walk.

SPEAKER_04: 37:41

Yes, yes. Now, someone who I I actually find very interesting in the New Japan. I don't I don't that he come I I think you spoke of this guy before, but he comes out there and he's got the little microphone and he's just like always singing he's like gold dust, he's like uh a tai chi.

SPEAKER_05: 38:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 38:01

He's his whole shit is so hilarious.

SPEAKER_05: 38:04

Yeah, he comes out singing like an anime fucking intro, basically, and then they'll announce him and he's like Are you done?

SPEAKER_03: 38:14

Come back to the song, bro, every time.

SPEAKER_04: 38:18

Oh god, but to get back to T. T. T. Cause like, yeah, no, like Januch Pan's like just so much not Nucha Pan's the positive the team.

SPEAKER_05: 38:26

I know that's why I'm hype about it, but yeah, anyway. Uh that match, Mike uh Mike Santana. It's like a what five-minute match, his to spin the block. Yeah, it was it was fine. Yeah, yeah. Um then there was the uh Stax versus um Sean match for the TNA their international international title or their intercontinental, yeah. Might as well call. Which he was technically Stax is technically a part of those individuals who Yes.

SPEAKER_04: 39:00

And so the so like, I mean, the match was fine. It's a match, it was a match. Uh how I felt about Mike Santonian. I am surprised that they let Stax get the title. But not but once we get to what happens later on, I'm like, okay, because you know, because there's also a fact that Stax is supposed to be like engaged to Santino's daughter and all this other stuff. Yeah. And I think uh, you know, prior to this anyway. It's like right now, I think like prior to this, like, you know, she was like talk to him was like, you gotta like, you know, calm down and stop with all he's like, I'm fine, we're good, we're good. And then he goes and does this shit. But it's like, I mean, once again, I'm like, it's a match. It was a match, it was cool, it's whatever.

SPEAKER_02: 39:55

You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_05: 39:56

Uh same thing for the knockoffs title match. It's like one of the things I couldn't Stand about it. Um, because I can't remember her name. I I I feel like I will butcher it. Ling is it Lingley? Uh yeah, I think so. Lingley. And I don't know who the other opponent was, but um the whole premise of the match is like man, they're friends. Can you take out your best friend when it comes to you being in the ring with them and being rough with can you actually go for the pin count on your best friend? I'm like, what the fuck is this anime? Like, what the fuck? No, bro. This is sports, okay? You're gonna have moments where you're gonna go against your fucking friend. And if you can't go up until say, bro, you're gonna get the best I ever, you know, the best of me in that ring, and you know, whoever the best man wins. And if it causes friction, fuck all. But like to have the whole match where constantly commentary is talking about, but can you finish your friend? Can you get the pause? You know what? You know what? You know what? I I got nothing against it. Can't say shit, can't say a fucking thing, sir. Uh you got me there. You got me there.

SPEAKER_06: 41:18

So you don't have me right in hand.

SPEAKER_03: 41:26

So you dick some fucking poop.

SPEAKER_05: 41:30

But can you get the three count? Can you get the win over your friend? And that was the whole match. So it was a match.

SPEAKER_04: 41:39

So which was it's like because of the way this pay-per-view kind of was and the way it was going, I'm like, man, I really need to make sure I double down and watch TNA. Because it was like, not because I was not pervious to most of the story going into this pay-per-view, it's like watching this pay-per-view and watching the matches, it was just like, why? Why are we here? Like, like, out of all the matches, the only match that was like still making sense to me was uh what was it, the the tag team match, I think, with Ash by Elegance or or the Elegance brand. There was something I think in that.

SPEAKER_05: 42:23

Oh, please, can we not get Ash by Ellis Ash by uh the elegance brand? Yeah, please don't make her go in commentary again. No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm literally on my headphones listening to it while I'm cleaning the house, and I'm like, ugh, like whatever she said was just like, no, why is she doing it like that? No, ah, this hurts my ears. And my wife was like, What? I'm like, I'm I'm listening to the product, don't mind me. But I kept making noises, and she's like, What's wrong? Like, every time she says something, it's like and here we go. Yeah, oh, they're locking up now. Yeah, it'd be like that, and like she didn't speci specify, like, specifically say that, yeah, but it would just be that energy, like, oh my gosh, they're actually grabbing each other. Oh, they're locking up now. Yeah, I know. I yeah, it was uh it was a bit rough. And then she said, This is my new role. And I said, if I'm hearing her for the rest of this show, just like Booker T, I will not watch this.

SPEAKER_04: 43:26

I will not watch this. It's probably just gonna be for what her tag team partners have their match.

SPEAKER_05: 43:31

I hope. I hope. Because then I was sadly, unfortunately, because the inspiration did do a good damn job. I like that that ending, and uh yeah, I'm gonna call her Alicia Fox because that's we know her ass. She be taking bumps like a little over-exaggerate.

SPEAKER_04: 43:49

Listen, I'm this this re-surgence of Alicia Fox that has happened. I forget what her current name is, but yeah, same, same. It always escapes me. Number one, I was super surprised when it's like like she because the the first time I noticed her when she came out there, she was with uh when she first came out there with Tesla, and I was all like, is that Alicia Fox?

SPEAKER_05: 44:14

Yes. Since fucking when? Yeah, she's been there for a while, bro. I I did not realize. They connected her with Tesla Bancher Blancher because she's she was just getting constant heat of and not the good kind. And now honestly, low-key, and this is gonna probably sound wild, bro, because a lot of the comments were the racist comments, so you connect her with the one black girl. They did they had to do the thing, it was like, but see, she's got black friends, yeah. And that's her friend is black, and that's what I feel, bro. I felt that because now we're not hearing the chance anymore. That's true. We're not hearing the chance anymore.

SPEAKER_04: 44:53

I mean, honestly, it's a it worked, it it worked, but Petrus Farm remembers, yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 45:05

He don't forget. God damn it, bro. That's two of them today, man.

SPEAKER_04: 45:17

But like, fam, I'm not gonna lie.

SPEAKER_05: 45:19

Like, this this TNA pay-per-view was kind of dry. It was dry. It was definitely a cut that bitch off moment every time, you know. What's up? Here, here's the thing, too. Um, you saw the rascals versus the uh the four, um the state four, whatever is uh Ollie's group. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you had that moment where Elias comes out here, drags them away, and stuff like that. I'm like, okay. Uh, but the match was pretty much a match, and it they had some great spots that RKO into the pile. That was crazy. Like, but that was like the only thing I remember in that match.

SPEAKER_04: 46:02

Now, I think for me, because uh the only match that really stood out for me, which is which is uh is it AJ Francis and uh Leon?

SPEAKER_05: 46:15

Yes, and and here's the thing it stood out because I don't care what you may feel about AJ Francis. Nah, that ain't it, man. Really? Nah, that ain't it. You you're not uh I'm nah, nah, nah. Nah, nah, you ain't you ain't rocking with me. I I think he's better as a manager. I truly think he is better at a manager. This I will agree, I will say this much. This was the best big man display he's ever put out. Okay, and I feel like a lot of it's because of Leon and his selling. Uh but granted, the the night before on Impact, he gave one of the best choke slams I've seen in a while. And that's again because of Leon taking the proper bump the way it should be and making it look effective. Yes. So a part of it is the cooperation between the two. But in this match, this is the one thing that pissed me off. And it's only because, bro, you're not doing your fucking job. This fucking ref, bro. Oh the ref, whenever Ridge Swan hit uh uh AJ with the fucking belt, that's still a disqualification. The bell should have rung, bitch. And commentary said, oh no, the referee just turned the blind eye. No, the bell should have rung. Even if that's his per he still that's that's a disqualification.

SPEAKER_04: 47:50

I was uh they kinda they kinda Yeah, no, that's the so even if they are on the same team originally like because he put his hands on them. Like it it'd be one it'd be one thing if it was behind the back, but but it's but the referee looked dead at it right there.

SPEAKER_05: 48:16

Yeah, I mean it was like, oh, because he was giving me shit too. Turn a blind eye. She should have gone to the bat and the the the whoever the head who also who the fuck is the guy that keeps coming out with the T and A hat? Why do you have to keep putting belts on people? We don't we don't need you to do that. You're not triple H. Don't don't do it. But that's the thing. He he he kind of is he is, but I don't need him out there every time putting a belt on somebody like he's too hot.

SPEAKER_04: 48:41

No, I will agree. Like, he don't have to. He don't like it like it's almost like when they want to be Dana White that part, literally that part 100%. Literally, it's like the whole idea of like, you know, you know how like Tony Khan is always like, you know, I I don't want to be the on-tv personality type thing. Like he doesn't want to do the Vince McMahon thing. Yeah, yeah. It's almost like this guy is like the same. Like, he doesn't want to do the actual Vince McMahon thing, but he still kind of wants to be on TV, though.

SPEAKER_05: 49:16

Like, you just want to I want to be able to put the belt on them. Put my little TNA hat.

SPEAKER_04: 49:19

At least just put the belt on. Every time. Since I, you know, since I own the spot.

SPEAKER_05: 49:23

Like every time, every time I come out there, I gotta wear my little TNA hat. Like every time.

SPEAKER_04: 49:27

But I mean, that's like that's literally with all the TNA owners. Like, look at how Dixie Carter was. Like, and you know what with Homeboy from Smash and Punk is yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 49:40

It's like Hulk Hogan. You know, Scott, uh, was it Scott Damore? Scott Damore, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was a personality, but like almost like a William Regal. Like, where he unless he has to. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 49:55

But it's like it, but there it's like that, there's there's still that whole aspect that, you know, like, you know, because he is like the actual owner of the promotion, you know, they still kinda want to like uh uh at least I want to look at least wave at the in the cam, you know, once and once or twice, people so that people remember my face.

SPEAKER_05: 50:14

I do sign y'all checks.

SPEAKER_04: 50:15

Yeah, yeah, a little something.

SPEAKER_05: 50:17

But uh, but the match matches always gonna be good with Leon. No matter what.

SPEAKER_04: 50:23

You know, that man You have to try really hard. You really do. Like you have to go out of your way to have a bad match for Leon Slater.

SPEAKER_05: 50:30

You you and that's why I said this is the the reason why this match worked is because Leon Slater and the AJ Francis is definitely a big uh a good uh David versus Goliath match. Where it does not take much because he is very you know small, but and AJ is b. So certain moves have double effect, and it made sense.

SPEAKER_04: 50:54

And and Leon Slater is of an extremely talented and well versatile super small person. He's a small he's a superstar, though. He is a superstar. Oh, 100%.

SPEAKER_05: 51:09

Like, listen, he's a superstar, but it's like as far as like to to for the his him his David is so superb that it makes him look better as a big man, he makes the Goliath so much more giant because there were a lot of false count finishes in that match, and a lot of them I was like, You're not giving AJ that you're not giving AJ that bet, you're not giving that AJ, and that was the point where I was like, he's really he did his spear, his spear move or whatever, and I'm like, he really about to win this title. Like I was I was like, there's no way you're putting the belt on AJ. Like, let's let's be real. Nah, don't do that. Leon is too raw hot right now, and you take that belt from him, listen, he turned this bitch off.

SPEAKER_04: 51:59

He is, and the thing is funny because it's like Leon, Leon Slayer has been defending that belt everywhere like some fantastical opponents, yeah. Although it's like it, but it's like but then some of his best matches defending that belt are against people who are three times his size. Like him versus him and Moose when he won the belt, that was great.

SPEAKER_05: 52:30

That was he is doing what Monet should be doing. Because everybody Monet goes against, they're making Monet look good.

SPEAKER_04: 52:39

Leon's making you look good. 100%. Yeah, Monet, she she's not she's not boosting nobody right now.

SPEAKER_05: 52:47

The last match she had with Chris Statliner, though, that that was Sasha Banks. I'm still standing on that. Still standing on that. She's just a a quick glimmer. She thought she was going against Bailey. I mean, the closest thing to a Bailey in there, uh outside Willow Nightingale. But um, if we're talking about the hugger, though, but yeah. Uh, but that a AJ Francis and Leon match was, I would say, match of the night.

SPEAKER_04: 53:16

Oh, 100%. Easy.

SPEAKER_05: 53:18

Match of the night. Easy. Um, then the Hardy Boys versus Crimetime 2.0. And tell me I'm wrong. Uh I will not confirm. Honestly, one of them looks like chunkier Obu Femi. The one with the gray pants.

SPEAKER_04: 53:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 53:34

He I thought I was like, but that's not Oba Femi. Because he has the tape wearing and everything.

SPEAKER_04: 53:38

Uh, if I'm not mistaken, the one uh the the darker one, yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 53:43

He's still wearing dark pants.

SPEAKER_04: 53:44

Uh I think he had white on this time.

SPEAKER_05: 53:47

Uh the yeah, with the gray, yeah. He had the table of storms and stuff.

SPEAKER_04: 53:50

So if I'm not mistaken, he is actually the son of a boxer.

SPEAKER_05: 53:55

Uh I think his name is Tyson. The the the guy, the wrestler we're talking about. I think his name is Tyson, maybe. I think so. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 54:01

I forget his name, but he's his uh I'm I'm almost positive. I'm I might have to look it up real quick.

SPEAKER_05: 54:08

And we do apologize to any wrestler who has watched the product and we're saying we don't know your name, because right now we do not have a prompt or anything to put up on who that person's name is in the moment. We are going off the fact that we just watched the product, and if we are saying we don't remember the names because probably we were introduced to you just one time and we're supposed to remember your name after this one occasion. So we're not doing it out of saying, Hey, we don't fuck with you, we don't like you or anything. It's just if you told us, like, oh yeah, that match. I remember the match, the person's name right now. Can't think of it, but I remember you as a wrestler. If I see enough, I will remember you. So it is nothing against you, not saying anything bad against you, it's just coming off the strength of we watched the pay-per-view, we drove to the location, and we just boom, we turned on the mic and we went at it. So um, there is that. But going against the Hardy Boys, I feel like those two men were probably screaming inside as young wrestling fans. Because to I don't give a damn what era of the Hardy Boys it is. If you're told, yo, you're going against the Hardy Boys, I'll do the job for the Hardy Boys. I don't give a fuck. It's the Hardy Boys, bro. Like, I don't the fact I get to rub shoulders with tag team greatness. Somebody told me the outcome is like, yo, they're gonna kick you in your your ass and you're gonna flop out the ring. I guess I will. Hardy boys 100%. Hardy boys, bro. Uh, you're gonna get the the the the split attack where Jeff is gonna do it like five times hitching dick. I guess so. It's Jeff Hardy, my nigga. It's the Hardy Boys, which I don't know if you saw that TikTok I sent you, speaking of like crotch punches. Did you see the TikTok I sent you where it's the rock back in the day when he that had me screaming?

SPEAKER_04: 56:08

Also, quick update because I did the lookup. Okay I got the wrong black guy. Because uh this guy, he's actually uh Holyfield's son. No way! Elijah Holyfield.

SPEAKER_05: 56:22

Well, there you go.

SPEAKER_04: 56:23

Yeah, yeah. I I I had the wrong, I had the wrong black, big black dude.

SPEAKER_05: 56:28

Uh, you know, only we can say that. Only we. Only we can say that. And we'll take advantage of it. But um I was about to say if you could have pulled up the the card, that would have been cool too. But uh, but we only only got one more match left outside of that tag match. Which was the heavyweight title match. Which I skimmed the fuck out of it because here is my thing. You weren't given JDC, right? You're not giving JDC the belt. No, of course not. And I'm I really I as much as Kazarian is a vet, I don't care for a Kazarian match right now.

SPEAKER_04: 57:05

I don't listen, that match was actually not important. Nope. That match was a front for what happens after the match, which was when uh all those guys came in there and they jumped everybody. They was gonna burn the TNA ring and all this other stuff, which now I have to make sure I watch a little bit of NXT to get an understanding of why the fuck are they doing it. Because this has been going on for a bit.

SPEAKER_02: 57:44

I think just because they can.

SPEAKER_04: 57:46

But it's like, well, I mean, that, but it's like I have not heard like the the full why. Like, why are y'all doing this to the TNA folk? Because the TNA folk, they're like, yo, we're just trying to fucking live right now. Like, yeah, but and then it's like, and then, you know, fucking uh Ava, she's not a great GM. She's just out here fucking like what was it? Because there was what was on one of the last uh NXT, she's like on the phone, and I guess she's talking to somebody about what like because that situation happened where they came in there and jumped and everything, and she's all like, listen, I will handle my NXT stars, you handle your TNA stars, and I'm like, Ava, you're not handling shit. They're still coming to TNA shows. They're still coming to TNA shows, you're not doing your job too great. But and then Stax knocks out Santina, which I'm almost positive there's going to be extreme repercussions about that whole situation once we get into fucking NXT NXT.

SPEAKER_05: 58:59

Which we can go ahead and talk about NXT since you watched the deadline. And I do need to watch it because I do need to watch that Soul Survivor match, because knowing the outcome for Javon Evans, I need to see how he got that. So I don't know if I I have I have to watch it on mute because I can't hear Booker T. I cannot.

SPEAKER_04: 59:16

So, number one, the Oba Femi match, right? As it's been well documented on this show, we easily said how the fuck Oba Femi lose that bell to to Ricky Saints. And then afterwards, we're like, why the fuck is Ricky Saints the champion? And then Ricky Saints slightly impressed me when he went up against uh Trick Williams. When him and Trick had their thing, I was like, okay, alright, I'm saying this. And then Oba Femi showed up again, right? And I'm like, okay. And Oba Femi came back feeling himself, bro. He's been talking that slick shit, boy.

SPEAKER_05: 1:00:06

I think I'm doing the wall, nigga. Because that's what that's what happened, bro. And and he said he look he said.

SPEAKER_04: 1:00:17

Give me that, nigga. You're not wrong. Give me that shit, nigga. You are you are the farthest thing from wrong because this match is going on. And it's one of those deals where with the way that they've presented Oba Femi and the way that they've built him, it's like, number one, Ricky Saints has an absolutely like dog shit finishing move. The fucking spinning DDT, right? And it took three spinning DDTs to beat Oba Femi.

SPEAKER_05: 1:00:48

I mean, yeah, if you you spin a nigga around the world, yeah, yeah, yeah, a couple of times. And he might get crazy after DT.

SPEAKER_04: 1:00:54

He got pinned because he was dizzy.

SPEAKER_05: 1:00:56

Basically.

SPEAKER_04: 1:00:57

Okay. Well, it's the it's the ruler's one weakness. Watching this match, it's like. Watching this match had me be like, oh, but Fimmy, how did you fumble this bag originally, bro? Like, the fuck were you doing?

SPEAKER_05: 1:01:15

I was hurting, bro. I was on the road every day, you know what I'm saying? I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_04: 1:01:18

Which you kind of admit, because like his his excuse was the fact of, you know, talk about the fact that, you know, having the belt for so long and this, then, the other, and he was like, uh, although I do like how he always he did say the fact that, like, listen, after it's like after I lost you, yeah, I left. Because this whole TNA versus uh NXT stuff, yeah, that shit ain't got nothing to do with me, bro. So I let y'all have fun with all that. Now that all that shit's passed, I'm back to reclaim what I own. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_05: 1:01:53

And he did. Mm-hmm. Which means Cody going against him at Saturday night, my main event, which I'm like, hmm. You put him against Cody Rhodes immediately. Listen, I How are you going to do that when okay? You got Braun, and now you're talking about you're gonna have Emmy and Oba Oba Femi as your two main guys. Because that's basically what you're skyrocketing, too. If you're gonna have him go against Cody as his first fucking match, and this is gonna it's champion versus champion.

SPEAKER_04: 1:02:27

Yes. I feel I feel Cody is going to win.

SPEAKER_05: 1:02:37

Oh, of course, but out of shenanigans, it can't be. I don't think getting a clean, clean finish on Uba, uh Oba Femi would be the right way to go. And I feel like Drew has to do something. Hmm. It has to be, bro. Or if if uh if if anything, Cody loses because of Drew interference, giving Uba the win. I see you right.

SPEAKER_04: 1:03:07

I see that. Because I also agree the fact that because these two being in a match is a great idea of a match.

SPEAKER_02: 1:03:17

Yes.

SPEAKER_04: 1:03:18

But with where they're at, especially Oba Femi just getting this dub, yeah, and Cody Rhodes being Cody Rhodes. Yeah, it's thundering.

SPEAKER_02: 1:03:27

Damn.

SPEAKER_04: 1:03:27

But uh, like with that, it's like it's really difficult for me to be all like, so how does Oba Femi lose this? Cause he shouldn't. Cause he shouldn't, indeed. And it's just, and I'm like, mmm, this is this is a this is a situation. This is quite a situation. But you saying that, because like because because of that, since you want like, yeah, this guy, this there has to be some kind of shenanigans.

SPEAKER_05: 1:03:55

Especially because of how Cody apparently just pulled Drew's hair uh on SmackDown. I yes.

SPEAKER_04: 1:04:04

I am I believe you might be right about Drew McIntyre showing up costing Cody the whole situation.

SPEAKER_05: 1:04:16

It's it's the it's the smart thing to do. It makes sense. The smart thing to do. When it comes to that match, though, uh, you know, again, you've watched it, so you have a better understanding of how you felt about it. I haven't watched it, I don't think I'm gonna watch unless I watched the whole pay-per-view on mute. Honestly, I mean the match was the match was good.

SPEAKER_04: 1:04:40

All right. Which that's that's the baseline thing for all of these matches. These all of the matches on this pay-per-view were great matches. But uh this match had me had gave me the feeling of like this is how this should have been the first time. Because I because because Oba Femi beat Ricky Starks and took the belt back from him, it almost makes me be like, So how the fuck you how the fuck you lose it in the first place?

SPEAKER_05: 1:05:12

Like, how is it's dumb booking. And so that that that's that's where I stand with that. To me, it's the equivalent of letting a friend borrow a toy. Remember back in the day you let that one friend borrow your favorite toy, and then you're like, hey, at some point I want my toy back. It's the equivalent of man, here you can hold the title. Honestly, let me go on vacation for a little bit, and I hope that you can keep my title warm and safe. Now I'm back, nigga. Give me my belt.

SPEAKER_04: 1:05:43

I mean, kind of sort of, yeah. It's it was, I mean, the match but the matchover, I was fine.

SPEAKER_05: 1:05:50

The belt's back where it's supposed to be. Here's also a side question to ask Could you have seen Ricky Starts versus Cody? I wouldn't have liked it. I feel like it would have been a very NWA match, and I don't watch the product well enough to say too much to that, but it'd be a good old wrestling match. You know, good old Southern wrestling match. Could Cody be like Dusty Rose and Ricky? It's kind of like a a bougie Ric Flair.

SPEAKER_04: 1:06:29

Alright. Uh no, um I'm not for it. I didn't care. I I was not caring to possibly see that.

SPEAKER_05: 1:06:36

I was about to say, because ain't no way they're trying to boost Ricky Saints to this to main roster before Uber. No, no, oh hell no. That's why I was like, like, this match against Cody is supposed to be the cement of like, hey, you are coming up here, sim. So, which I don't know. It this is I don't know how I feel about you know Uber in the main roster, because it's like his presentation. I wanted to I hope his presentation's good.

SPEAKER_04: 1:07:01

Either way, Oba Femi. Oh, I mean, well, granted, we're we're almost at the end of all of this shit. So Oba Femi, we don't need to see him on the main roster until after next WrestleMania.

SPEAKER_02: 1:07:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 1:07:12

After WrestleMania, yeah, then we can bring him up.

SPEAKER_05: 1:07:16

Do it like how uh John Cena and uh Kevin Owens did. You can have him come up, you have him beat, you know, how he beat Cena, and you just give him some momentum. So that way he's basically saying, yo, so if I could just if I could beat you, oh, when I come to the main roster, I'm wrecking ship.

SPEAKER_04: 1:07:35

Honestly, they need to bring him up to the main roster like how they did Oscar. He needs to get the Oscar treatment. Even though he's not like undefeated or anything like that, he needs to be brought to the main roster. He needs to get a belt around his waist, and he needs to continue doing his ruler stick kind of thing. He needs to go conquer and be the new big bad guy.

SPEAKER_05: 1:07:57

I need him to come out like Goldberg though.

SPEAKER_04: 1:08:00

Oh, you want like the Lyro and shit?

SPEAKER_05: 1:08:02

No, where he comes out from the door and he walks out there, but like, not doing the but just like with that aura, like that, oh shit, it's the ruler, bro. It's the ruler. I feel like that would give him some intensity that he may need. Because, like, yeah, the NXT audience in the ring of the arena is short enough for that, you know, doing that, but now doing that down a main roster ramp, that's bigger, bro. I mean, I need some intensity to him at this point.

SPEAKER_04: 1:08:32

I mean, honestly, personally, I need him to get rid of that walk.

SPEAKER_05: 1:08:39

Like, he could he can do it in the ring, maybe in the ring, like when he's in the ring waiting for his opponent, just sure. As if you're gonna do it.

SPEAKER_04: 1:08:52

If you're gonna do it if we absolutely have to keep it, all right. Sure, we can keep it for in the ring. It's weird to me though, because it's like it almost makes it whenever him doing that walk gives me this feel like he still does not know what he wants to be. Cause like he's in this really weird limbo where he is, he is, I guess, as you would call like a tweener, as they say, because that's when you're in between bad guy and good guy. Um he's not an anti-hero. He's he's just Icause when you're an anti-hero, that means you do good things just in a villainous way, and it's like he himself is not a villain, but he's not a hero either. He is he's just the rule somewhere in between all of that, so that's where the tweener moniker comes from, and so it's like, you know, like doing all of this right here, this is this is babyface shit in my mind. Yeah, but it's like at the same time, though, he does that, and regardless, like for instance, like Ricky Saints is a babyface, and he talks down to Ricky Saints, you know, and and says all these things, but then it's like he'll also turn around and do the same thing to Trick William, who is obviously a heel right now, and so it's like I just uh I just feel that to me, like the I mean it's his thing, but it's like that's like the only slight corny thing about him.

SPEAKER_05: 1:10:36

So it's like so basically it's face, heel, ruler.

SPEAKER_04: 1:10:41

I mean, in this particular case, yeah, if that's what you want to call it. Tweener, ruler, no, that's that's what he is.

SPEAKER_02: 1:10:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 1:10:48

So after that, what was it? The uh wasn't it the females iron?

SPEAKER_05: 1:10:52

I I remember I didn't watch it.

SPEAKER_04: 1:10:53

Oh, that's right. Yeah, it's usually so I'm going off of I'll probably have to look it up because I don't remember all the matches. But what I do know is that the women's one, comparatively speaking, I think the women had a better Iron Survivor match as far as everything that was going on. But the uh but the guys' one was intense. Okay. Um but like uh but it was it was one of those things like the females uh NXT uh um Iron Survivor match, it was it was highly decorated, you know what I'm saying? And they and they really went hard. And in my mind, they they definitely proved themselves. I don't quite agree with the winner, because the person who won was the the Evolve girl.

SPEAKER_05: 1:12:00

Yeah, I saw her, I saw the highlight of like her holding up her belt and stuff. Yes, she came out on top, and I was like, but I mean you gotta remember they gotta create new stars, and you know, now she's getting a chance to go for the title. You know, what better way to if not put her in front of the audience is against the champion.

SPEAKER_04: 1:12:20

Which is fair.

SPEAKER_05: 1:12:24

But to skyrocket her to that moment to you is kind of maybe a bit much.

SPEAKER_04: 1:12:34

I think it's one of those things where maybe it's just because of the fact that I don't watch Evolve.

SPEAKER_05: 1:12:40

Yeah, no, that's not a that's not a product I'm gonna be watching. It's just a lot of wrestling already.

SPEAKER_04: 1:12:45

I've tried like I tried watching I'll I've tuned in and looked at Evolve a couple of times, but uh watching Evolve comparably speaking, Evolve reminds me of like early, early NXT.

SPEAKER_05: 1:13:06

That's what it is. It's literally NXT is no longer what its entity was when it first started. Now it is simply as it is, is it's a third brand. It is the EC, it's the equivalent of what ECW was when we had Raw Smackdown ECW. That is what it is now, but it's a better product than the ECW product was. So now they have to make a new developmental for developmental because NXT was the developmental, it's technically still is, but think about Nikia Lyons, she's in evolved right now because they need her to develop more than what she was doing in NXT.

SPEAKER_04: 1:13:44

Fam, she's never gonna develop.

SPEAKER_05: 1:13:46

I mean, yeah. I mean, I love everyone's developed.

SPEAKER_04: 1:13:51

Oh, I mean, she can't develop no further than that, yeah. But but it's it's hilarious to me because it's like every once in a while I'll see like it's like someone will post some outlandishly wild shit that she will have done in a ring. Like the fucking her doing her doing the Melina split in the corner on like the bottom rope, just bouncing her ass on like and your ass is your gimmick, apparently.

SPEAKER_05: 1:14:30

How can I take you seriously? You know, and I can't I can't really take the IWC that seriously, too, because I cannot scroll my timeline without a which room would you want to be in, which table would you want to sit in? And it's all the fucking women, like bro, like we get it. You guys fantasize about these fucking wrestlers because you don't get no coon or poon or anything from anywhere else. You just fucking idolizing these women that you would never fucking get with. But it's just like every every surface of the fucking internet on my socials, I scroll and I see it. Like, bro, can we not like just focus on the fact that yes, they can be sexy, they can be sexy individuals, but if every time I'm scrolling my timeline and I'm seeing a reference of nigga, which room we want to be in, which one is your girl, which one is bro? Like, can we the wrestlers, okay?

SPEAKER_04: 1:15:26

The fucking wrestlers.

SPEAKER_05: 1:15:29

God damn. There's and there's no escaping like literally, there's people that say, Oh, I watch wrestling for the plot, and then it shows the plots Rhea Ripley. Like, people know Rhea Ripley and are not even wrestling fans because they idolize her and want to be with her. Like, and we're not even getting on the fact that's why her current product is like, yes, Rhea Ripley is over. Because fucking people watch wrestling just to see her because they're fantasizing of her, and not even watching the product because it's the product. It's oh shit, it's Rhea Ripley now, and that's why the IWC is so mad that she's getting pushed to everything, is because people are buying tickets to see her, and it's not for the wrestling every once in a while, like you know, everybody else is the wrestling, but you got that little small subgroup that's just fantasizing. I'm sorry, Ria, that you have to experience that. And any other other wrestlers who are going to the airport, like Jay Uso and Soraya and them, and they're getting wrestlers who are stalking, putting cameras on you, poking, yeah. Those, those, those that's sexy niggas, bro. Every day I feel for you guys, and I'm saying this out of uh not saying that you guys are not sexy, you're not beautiful, you you are not who you are, but I I value you as wrestlers, okay? I value Rhea Ripley as a wrestler. I value as much as I love me and some Tony, um, Tony Storm, a wrestler, Tiffany Stratton, you are absolutely gorgeous, but you are an amazing wrestler. I value these women as wrestlers, and not that the fact they are the opposite sex, and I'm so fucking tired of it.

SPEAKER_04: 1:17:10

But unfortunately, old habits die hard. They do. We are very far removed from the times of bra and panties. However, at least, at least we're not there, thank God. It's like we're very far removed from the bra and panties time. However, Petris Farm still remembers. Yes, we do. We do, and that was a very bad time. And we uh and uh we're you know, TNA, what can we say?

SPEAKER_05: 1:17:38

Yes, TNA, where women's wrestling is, and I will give it to uh Ash. You know, she was definitely not getting anything in WWE's Dana Brooke, and then she became something in TNA because she could fucking go. And I'm sad that she can't continue her career, but you know, and this is why also Natty's finally coming out, bitch. We're getting the low-key legend, bro. I'm I've never been so happy for Natty in my life, I've never enjoyed Natalia, but seeing Natty and knowing that that's the real me. That's if I would have got this from you, 2010 plus, been a big fan of you're at.

SPEAKER_04: 1:18:24

See, the see the problem is the fact that the the natty that we're about to get is funny enough, the gimmick. The natty that we've been having, that's been the that's the real natty. No, the good old the the the cat lady natty.

SPEAKER_05: 1:18:37

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. The cat woman natty is still her, but as as her interview with Chris Van Bleak, she was like, No, what I really wanted to be was Natty. I didn't want to be Natalia, like, yeah, I that's my personality, but in the ring, when I was in the dungeon, I was fucking going.

SPEAKER_04: 1:18:55

Now I will say I did like the little promo that they did where she's training what's her name and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_05: 1:19:03

I fucking popped. She's like, I again, I knew what it was. And when I was watching it, I'm in bed. I'm in bed with Corey and I'm watching on my headphones. I'm just popping. I'm like, ah shit. And then Corey's like, what's going on? Like, it's fucking daddy, it's fucking daddy, it's fucking daddy. And then she was like, What's up with natty? And I had to actually take a moment to break down the situation. Like, I have to break down battle rap bars to her. Whenever I'll be like, Yo, that shit's crazy. And she'd be like, What? And I explain it to her, and she's still like, I don't get it. And I'm like, alright, you know, it's cool, it's whatever, bro.

SPEAKER_04: 1:19:38

It's it's cool, it's whatever.

SPEAKER_05: 1:19:40

Yeah, like uh, I'll tell you one of the bars, and then you get it, but she'd be like, I don't get it. And I'm like, oh my god. All right, cool. Um, but I'm so hyped for that.

SPEAKER_04: 1:19:50

But to get back to the women's match for NXT, like it let me put it this way in my personal opinion, I well, I understand. I understand why she did not get it, but God damn Sol Ruka. She should have had that. For me, she should have had that. But it's oil those deals for, I mean, I guess because Sol Ruka needs she had she has to go and deal with her best friend Zarya, and they gotta get their issues resolved, and they're gonna finally have their match. I feel their few. I think that's where we're going with that. Yeah, we knew that Lola fucking like Lola Lola Vice, who was at the match.

SPEAKER_05: 1:20:31

I'm like, she's great. I need to watch her matches because all I keep seeing on social media is everybody glorifying her ass. That's all I see. I don't see nothing else.

SPEAKER_04: 1:20:41

I mean, it is great too. Yeah. But I'm but she's she's actually great in the ring, too. But it's just like of those women, I just I and maybe I'm just a soul snatcher guy, but like I I was I was looking for Ruka to take that, but she didn't. But hey, it is what it is.

SPEAKER_05: 1:20:58

Now, somehow, I missed this match, and it was Ethan Page versus Mystery Guan. Which I I'm gonna have to watch it because while when he went against uh what's that one guy during in that that uh hardcore match they had, it was like Day of the Dead match or whatever. Yeah, I can't remember his name right now, but that was a good match with somebody the doctor, yeah, it was a good match with somebody from you know triple A. And as much as I can't not stand the gimmick that is Mr. Iguana, he's got an Iguana! Uh Ethan Page made that match with Dr. Good. So I'm like, okay, hopefully Ethan Page will make this match good.

SPEAKER_04: 1:21:42

I know why I missed it because what I was watching it on for some reason, like, wasn't working right. Sure, circle. Like the like the like the video went out, and so it was like when I got back to being able to watch it again, that match had moved on. But Ethan Page can do no wrong.

SPEAKER_05: 1:22:03

Yeah, he cannot. Him and Chelsea Green.

SPEAKER_04: 1:22:06

Ethan Page can do no wrong, and uh from of what the match I did see, the match was a fucking banger. And and that's and that's the one thing I have which I mean, considering where Ethan Page came from, he came from we're the best wrestle, so you know kill him with a smile. But uh outside of that, the match that did get me was Tatum Paxley versus uh um O girl.

SPEAKER_05: 1:22:33

That was part of from Kohl, yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 1:22:35

From the Coling. I'm real mad that she lost that shit.

SPEAKER_05: 1:22:40

Who uh Tatum? Yes. Credit. I mean Well, they kind of have to.

SPEAKER_04: 1:22:45

It was she was distracted. I mean, Tatum Tatum went off, boy. Like, it was one of those things where it's like she got all of this in to get beat.

SPEAKER_05: 1:22:55

I'm like, I'm I'm I'm not gonna lie, after watching the promo of where she was sitting in the chairs and she literally said like two lines, and it was like the least intimidating thing I've ever seen in my life. Uh, I was like, okay, they're not getting ready to blow their load right now. Um, on you know, giving her that win because it's got to build up more. You know, you just within this faction, you winning right now, then there's no point of continuing the feud and continuing the situation. So Homegirl has to win, causing more friction, causing more matches to happen. You know, that's how WWE books. And it's gonna be rubber match, and then Tatum's gonna win the next one, and then Shorty's gonna win.

SPEAKER_04: 1:23:37

Now I will be in the situation that I was like, the match was good, but I'm like, Tatum, you could have gone a little more crazy. Like, you may just say you was gonna like legitimately commit murder.

SPEAKER_05: 1:23:51

That's what I said. Like that weak ass promo, like I was like, okay, maybe it's so short, because maybe she might actually murder her.

SPEAKER_04: 1:23:58

Which that's what I was looking for, but yeah, no, I mean I I guess maybe she might pull a Nikki cross and get it.

SPEAKER_05: 1:24:06

You know, they had that screen, you know, Nikki Cross. God, I miss Nikki Cross. Oh, God. Maybe that's what I was thinking. If you're gonna do it, you gotta do Nikki Cross. You gotta do that crazy. That crazy is believable.

SPEAKER_04: 1:24:20

I mean, she might snap finally. Maybe this will be the piece that we need to make her snap.

SPEAKER_05: 1:24:24

Nikki Cross, leave uh do take a take a hi-atus from the Wyatt 6 and then go down there and teach her crazy so that way she can do your thing since you're not doing it anymore. Because I miss that version of Nikki Cross. That Nikki Cross can do no fucking wrong at all.

SPEAKER_04: 1:24:42

So the final match, which was the men's one, right?

SPEAKER_05: 1:24:45

The men's uh Deadline or the Iron Iron Survivor?

SPEAKER_04: 1:24:49

Iron Survivor.

SPEAKER_05: 1:24:50

So Which I don't like how sorry, sorry to to to to drop in because the Iron Survivor situation was because oh no, that's the Soul Survivor, excuse me. Continue. I was thinking about the Survivor Match Survivor Series match and the soul survivor.

SPEAKER_04: 1:25:05

So the one thing about this Iron Survivor situation was is the fact that I know in the past it was like somebody would pick who was going to be in it, and so where in the past they would have like like certain wrestlers would pick like a like certain like uh like uh like uh legends would pick. In this particular case, the John Cena was the one who picked all of these people to be in the Iron Survivor match. And so we had Javon Evans, we had uh one of the guys from um uh the part of the tag team championship. Dion Linux. Yeah, dark yeah, Dark State, Deon Linux, and then we had no no not him. Okay, as a matter of fact, Dion gave Sugar Man his the belt uh to be in this.

SPEAKER_05: 1:25:59

The tag title belt? Yeah. Why did he have are they not doing the freebirds rule?

SPEAKER_04: 1:26:05

So that's what I thought. Uh but it was like, you know, since I'm gonna be in this, he like he gave him and put the belt on him to hold and kind of thing.

SPEAKER_05: 1:26:13

So I was like, nigga, there's free bird rule. Everybody does the free burr.

SPEAKER_04: 1:26:16

Yeah, I swear I swore that they was doing free bird rule, so I don't know what that was all about. Okay, but um, but uh Miles Bourne and then Joe Henry.

SPEAKER_05: 1:26:26

So damn sure we'll get Joe Henry to win this. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_04: 1:26:31

I mean, no. So the way the match ended up going, there was a point where they were all tied, like everyone had got one point. Oh, and uh uh the other person I was am I forgetting somebody?

SPEAKER_05: 1:26:47

I'm gonna say this quick little thing about Joe Henry. Joe Henry, um, you will be the next R Truth. Wow. I'm gonna keep it a buck fifty with you. Once our truth is chilling and he's vibing and he's done, it will be you. You will make a bag, you will make people laugh, you will be a perfect person in that nature, but I'm gonna keep it a buck fifty with you. If he ever wins that heavyweight title, I'm I'm I'm done. I am done.

SPEAKER_04: 1:27:20

He will, but the other person who I was forgetting uh uh was um what's his name? Goddamn uh the uh TNA uh you want to send him a message? I will. Uh the TNA um uh the the the X Division champion. Oh, Leon Slate. There we go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know why I keep forgetting.

SPEAKER_05: 1:27:41

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was supposed to be in that too, because they even said in the commentary.

SPEAKER_04: 1:27:44

Yeah, which he wasn't. So here was the deal. So the pretty much the way it ended up going, there it was like they everyone got one pinfall, okay, to start. And then uh what ended up going down after they got the it's like everyone got one pinfall, and then like no one could get another pinfall type thing. And playing off of when Javon Evans was in it the last time, where he like he was about to get one more pinfall to like like I guess to actually win, and he ran out of time to like try and tie it type situation. It's like it came down to the wire like that again, but Javon Evans actually got the win. And so it was so it was a good match, but there is a part of me that was like I was not a big fan of the participants in this match, like it didn't feel superstar enough, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_05: 1:28:58

It was great, it was a great match, they all like went hard, but it was like no stars outside of Javon Evans and Leon Slayer.

SPEAKER_04: 1:29:07

Yes, outside of Javon Evans and Leon Slayer, I'm like, who cares about this Dark State guy? Goddamn, I mean Joe Hendry, sure, but I'm like Miles, I'm like, why the fuck here?

SPEAKER_05: 1:29:24

I ain't gonna lie, I'm gonna keep it a buck fifty with you. I need Leon to get a heavyweight belt. And granted, because Uba is holding it right now, if he was if it was Ricky Saints that still had it, I can see Leon taking it. And then I would have loved the feud of Javon going to TNA and taking the belt, and then Leon having the NXT title, and they do backstage segments with each other of like I feel that so it's weird because I feel as if that's where they might be going.

SPEAKER_04: 1:29:57

Like, I really think they're trying to set uh uh set homie up to become the next champion. The only problem is Actually, I can't even say it's a problem. Cause the last time him and Oba Femi had a match together, uh it was a trip, it was a triple thread. Tomal Leon or you tomorrow uh Javon? Javon Evans. Because since Javon Evans won, it's who the winner gets to face the NXT champion.

SPEAKER_05: 1:30:24

Yeah. And so it's like the last time they're way more believable than Ricky or Ricky Saints, uh Ricky Saints.

SPEAKER_04: 1:30:29

Which is crazy work to say. But it's true. Like if he won, you would believe it a little bit. Correct, and that's mostly because of the fact that Javon Evans That boy bouncy.

SPEAKER_05: 1:30:43

That's his catchphrase.

SPEAKER_04: 1:30:46

Javon Evans compared to Ricky Saints. Number one, Javon Evans has been in a match with Oba Fimi. Now, granted, it was a triple threat. That was when Oba Femi was like, hey, I'll do triple threats all day and I'll come out on top, which he kept on doing. He kept on winning these triple threat matches. But it was but the other person who was in there was Trick Williams. Now, they've never I don't think they've ever fought each other one on one.

SPEAKER_05: 1:31:12

God damn it.

SPEAKER_04: 1:31:13

Good, good shit.

SPEAKER_05: 1:31:14

Sorry.

SPEAKER_04: 1:31:15

I mean, that was a great match, too. But it's one of those things where I feel where he's at right now, like I can see him coming out on top against Oba Femi. And yes, it being believable. Because he actually has an arsenal of attack and moves that I can see him popping a win.

SPEAKER_05: 1:31:42

I I do feel like if he keeps doing that high flight and cutter, he is going to hurt his back really later on in his career. Oh, he'll be fine. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_06: 1:31:52

He'll find a new, he'll he'll he'll be all right.

SPEAKER_05: 1:31:54

Yeah, but that's a more believable finisher to hit Uber with. And he'd be like, yeah, no, that's a three-count. It's a three-count. But uh, yeah, no, that week of wrestling. I don't know unless you got any more other highlights of NXT to talk about. But what I definitely want to talk about is some uh small things, and then we also can go to New Japan. Um, can the IWC stop talking about Chris Jericho going to WWE? We know it's gonna happen. I don't need every news article talking about Chris Jericho going on the podcast, talking about well, WWE might be in the future. Well, WWE, and this is it's constant people talking about it, and it's like, oh uh Chris Jericho is gonna be the the guy in the who interfered in the match. Nigga, we all know it's awesome theory, okay? Stop stop trying to speculate. I understand, like that's like me making these dumbass comments in in this pie, but it's between your homies. Don't post it on the fucking internet knowing goddamn well that's not what the fuck's gonna happen, bro. We know Jericho's coming back. He probably hit the rumble, he'll have his last run in his head.

SPEAKER_04: 1:33:03

I'm I'm sorry that bothers you so much.

SPEAKER_05: 1:33:06

Because they keep talking about it, like as in Chris Jericho's coming, he he's definitely coming. It's like, bro, we know he's coming, he's gonna leave AEW, he has nothing there else for him, and he says he apparently still has a lot left in the tank, and to wrestle with some of the best wrestlers in the world. Jericho, he technically could do it, but he's it's kind of time for him to wind now to the WWE style. Let's be real. A Judas effect will land a little bit better in the WWE than it would in AEW. Because again, we're talking about niggas who land on fucking nails and the next day they're fucking okay. And I'm supposed to sell a fucking elbow attack? Nah, bro, come on now.

SPEAKER_04: 1:33:47

I mean, they do it for uh fucking kingston? Yeah, they do it for Eddie Kingston. Okay, and his is fucking noodles.

SPEAKER_05: 1:33:54

Yeah, I know, but I'm just saying, a Judas effect, they will make it look really good in WWE, like, oh, that's you know what I'm saying? Where at AEW, that's just like a fucking signature compared to what else we we see from other wrestlers. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04: 1:34:12

Haterade.

SPEAKER_05: 1:34:14

I mean, yeah. Spin the block is a way better close line than that. Listen, I I mean, even the spirit gun is a better Lariat.

SPEAKER_04: 1:34:28

I mean, number one, I'm sorry that this the Chris Jericho talk bothers you so much.

SPEAKER_05: 1:34:33

Bro, I want you to look at my YouTube feed. WrestleMania can't stop talking about it. Fucking Russell talk can't stop talking about it. The reason why DD DDJ can't stop talking about it.

SPEAKER_04: 1:34:45

It's like, bro, we all know why it's such a big deal is because like he is the only other superstar AEW had. And I think it's that it's just the whole fact that this guy, Chris Jericho, started AEW. He was one of the people, yeah. He started there, he was there day one for AEW, he had been there for all this time, and it's like it's the whole idea of like it must not be that good over there. Funny enough, almost like when he left WCW, when people started leaving WCW and coming to WWE.

SPEAKER_05: 1:35:32

Well, he definitely did that because they was weren't really appreciating him, and that Gober angle really fucked him over. Correct.

SPEAKER_04: 1:35:38

Yeah, so that's like when like when when when the important names started uh disappearing off of WCW that were like big WCW stars, like it's almost like the idea of like, you know, because Rey Mysterio was a big WCW star.

SPEAKER_05: 1:35:55

Which apparently Eric Bischoff did not like him wearing a mask, and that's why he made him take off the mask. Because he was like, the audience can't see your emotions in the mask, so we gotta take it off him. And Ray's like, no, you dumbass. Like, that's the whole aesthetic of Mexican luchadors.

SPEAKER_04: 1:36:11

Yeah, he was he was kind of stupid for that.

SPEAKER_05: 1:36:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 1:36:15

But I mean, but hey, you know what? That's why WCW died. So it is what it is. I mean, yeah, but like I just feel I mean, because ultimately I'm just kind of like, what is he going to do when he shows up?

SPEAKER_05: 1:36:31

That's the part where it's like, bro, we know he's coming. So, like, what are you guys hoping's gonna happen?

SPEAKER_04: 1:36:37

Cause for me, with Chris Jericho, let me put it this way. Chris Jericho apparently coming back to WWE is the reasons why LA Knight, um uh Montez Ford. People like yeah, Montez Ford, DIY. No, not them.

SPEAKER_05: 1:37:01

Well, I'm just saying, like people in general who they they don't get a place to shine.

SPEAKER_04: 1:37:06

I'm talking like, but I'm spot, but like more like, sure, we can say Montez Ford, we can say uh uh uh LA Knight, but Carmelo Hayes more in particular. These these people who are there that like are easy main inventors to just go ahead and they don't get to do anything because John Cena is there right now. And as soon as John Cena is about to disappear, Chris Jericho's about to show up. And then he's gonna end up.

SPEAKER_05: 1:37:44

And that's I'm gonna get ready to go on this one. Is that go ahead?

SPEAKER_04: 1:37:46

That's the and that's that's the that's another that is a so it's like we took Jance John Cena out, now we're gonna replace John Cena with another Chris Jericho here, kind of thing. And then we got the floating Brock Lesnar and the floating fucking, and it's like the main event, the the main event scene gets cluttered up with these names that won't go away. And it's like by the time these names go away, these people who are waiting to get up there, it's like too uh uh uh too late, too sad type situation.

SPEAKER_05: 1:38:19

Literally, bro. And I'm also sick and tired of this year being the year where every fucking person wants to do a retirement angle. Everybody saw Sting's retirement and said, shit, I gotta do that. Because okay, you know, uh Tanahashi, that makes sense. Cena, okay, JDC, AJ Styles makes sense, but like everybody's just talking about it constantly. So like every angle is oh, this is my retirement match, and this, this, and that. The Dolly boys retired, bro. There was too many, there's too many retirement angles this year. There's too many. And like, in in every scenario, it's like, man, this is my last chance to win the belt. They're not winning the fucking belt. So why are you telling me? Why are you making me get invested in something you are not gonna pull the trigger on? You didn't pull the trigger on the dellies, you didn't pull the trigger, you're not pulling the trigger with Cena let him win and stay with the icy title. You're not pulling the trigger with JDC. Why the fuck do you keep doing the retirement angle to get me invested? It's not gonna get me invested, besides, yes, I'll see your last match, I'll do that. Don't put the title in and making me hope that you'll win. You're not doing it, they're not letting you retire with the title.

SPEAKER_04: 1:39:41

I would say more so, uh, instead of like having me hoping you win, more so you trying to make up this facade. Or, you know, adding because it's like adding the title, it's like their way of trying to make you care a little extra about this match. Like, cause. That's going all the way back to Goldberg. Goldberg's retiring match, sure. Oh, yeah. But like him putting the heavyweight tile on the line, why? That's what I'm saying. Like shit like that. It's like, bro, we don't need it. It you like you did not have to include the heavyweight tile to make it worth watching. It didn't like it did not make the match more intense of a situation. No. In any such way. And like, and and yeah, like for like with the the Delhi Boys match. Adding the fact that they're putting that the that the Harris were putting the title on the line, it's like that it didn't need that. Nope. The match was fine to have in general, especially since we knew this was like the hey, this is us, this is a goodbye match, and we want to have it with y'all. It's like cool, that's fine. But it's like the tiles, the titles are irrelevant in this match. Yes. And so it's like and and I mean gonna skip over the John Cena situation here, but like, yeah, I I do agree. And I do find it interesting about like everyone's trying to do like a retirement tour, or they're trying to have like that one, they're they're trying to like, hey, this is the retirement.

SPEAKER_05: 1:41:27

Because we're getting ready to do the same thing with AJ Styles next year. So here we go all over again.

SPEAKER_04: 1:41:34

But it's like, yeah, it's uh I uh I can easily agree and say the fact that this whole uh retirement gimmick situation that's happening right now is uh cut it the fuck out.

SPEAKER_05: 1:41:47

It is getting a little uh it's getting old real quick. It's it's is as there are as many retirement gimmicks as there is EOSky doing the fucking trash can spot in every uh war games. That is how many that has happened almost this year. Okay. Um, so yeah, I'm I'm pretty done with it. But I said all that about the Chris Jericho thing just because like that's all I keep seeing on the IWC. It's all I keep seeing, all I keep seeing, all I keep seeing. But I finally want to hear your thoughts because we're winding down. I want to hear your thoughts about New Japan and how you've been watching. I think you watched November 22nd episode.

SPEAKER_04: 1:42:28

I did. I've actually watched a couple of different episodes. Cool. As a matter of fact, I watched I'm hyped for this shit.

SPEAKER_05: 1:42:34

I I watched uh December 3rd, I think it was. Yeah, I gotta I gotta I just watched that again.

SPEAKER_04: 1:42:39

I rewatched it on accident, but there was yeah, because there was December 3rd, and then I think there was a new one that's there's two new episodes, though.

SPEAKER_05: 1:42:47

Damn, already? Yeah, because Thursday, Friday.

SPEAKER_04: 1:42:51

Ah, okay. No, then no, I saw Did you see December 5th? I think you know, I saw the Friday one. Okay. So December 5th. Um Yeah, because then I think they said two days, so that's Monday when the next one comes out, right? Okay, so yeah, no, I I I I saw the most recent one. And I mean I haven't watched that yet. It's like uh so as I said earlier, I'm like because it's because it's new, there's going to be a uh just the the honest intrigue of me just you know seeing and enjoying what it is right now. So I have not watched, I have not been watching it long enough to start being able to compare it to what's happening on uh this side of the world.

SPEAKER_02: 1:43:43

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 1:43:44

But I do under I'm starting to understand the flow of New Japan and their unique way of telling stories because it's because of me seeing and noticing this, this has even more so put the exclamation point on how important story is in wrestling. You cannot just have straight wrestling and there not be a reason for it. There has to be a reason. The most important thing, the most important question in wrestling is the why. Alright. If you give us the why, at that point, it's like, okay, this is why cool. Let's see what the let's let's see what the outcome is going to be.

SPEAKER_05: 1:44:49

Without the why, wrestling is just dudes fighting for no fucking reason. I did just watch a Smarty Pants episode where it was like wrestling is drag, and they gave up some good fucking points, man. It gave us some good fucking points. I need you to see it, and you be like, I guess wrestling is drag, bro. Like it's it's very valid shit.

SPEAKER_04: 1:45:10

I mean, on the surface level, like, yeah, I can see that. I can see it. It's it's a performance, all right. It's uh it's a whole display, the they are characters and whatnot. So, but but it's like going back to what I was saying though with New Japan, it's like I'm I'm seeing the story, and I'm not and it's not like uh it's being fabricated in my eyes, I'm actually seeing where story is happening and where it's going and what it's doing type situation. And so I am enjoying that piece, and then it's also because it's such a it's a new product for me, you know, there is there is a general interest right now. Now, once I get watching it more and whatnot, and and start and and hopefully not see where there's like things lacking, or this, then, the other, because I can see that I can see the fact that you know there could be that the thing that they're saying, the fact that right now they just lack stars as far as like like big name stars right now. But it's like because I have not watched long enough, I don't know who's a star or not, outside of Zack Saber Jr. and evil.

SPEAKER_05: 1:46:37

Uh if you if through the through the um the the the title league, uh Lance technically is a star because um Tanahashi met, and this is one of the things commentator commentary will tell you about uh if you watch the the December 3rd episode. I didn't know this, but Lance Archer was once in TNA. Yes, he was. Yeah, and then uh Tanahashi saw him and says, You will come to New Japan and you will be a star. And him and Tanahashi were going at it, bro. They had matches. They submitted him. They were submitting him as a big man, which to me, and this is why I don't get any gaijin. Maybe I don't, maybe, maybe I don't maybe you're not getting enough money, or maybe you're just missing being in the States. I'd be like, fuck that. I'm living here now. They are making me a top fucking star. I'm going against the ace, the literal John Cena of this product. And I'm getting title shots, I'm getting, I'm getting the belt, and I'm making money, and I have fans, I have support. I am a big talent here. And then I go back home to AEW and I'm basically a fucking bodyguard. Why are you doing that? Just so you can you be home? Bro, just stay there. Just stay there and be a big name, fam.

SPEAKER_04: 1:47:59

Listen, there.

SPEAKER_05: 1:48:00

God damn it. I I could have sworn Stone Cold told me if you're not in this bitch for the fucking heavyweight title, why the fuck are you doing it? Why are you doing this?

SPEAKER_04: 1:48:10

For that Tony Khan money, brother.

SPEAKER_05: 1:48:13

It gotta be good. That no, that has to.

SPEAKER_04: 1:48:15

That's the listen. Think about homie who who also cut a promo against fucking uh uh uh Swerve Strickland, uh, who was on TNA, who used to have the fucking earmuffs and shit. Oh uh uh uh John John Alexander. So Josh. Josh, yes, yes, yes. So it's like look at Josh Alexander, he was a TNA world heavyweight champion, had a big run in TNA. He leaves TNA to come to AEW to be a lackey for Don Callis. Losing matches, not even in a heavyweight title picture until now. And it's like, why did he do it? Because you want to be home.

SPEAKER_05: 1:49:06

Even though he's Canadian.

SPEAKER_04: 1:49:07

No, well, not just that piece, but it's like because I know I think WWE did want him.

SPEAKER_05: 1:49:14

But he chose he chose he chose that because I believe in his style. His style. I think he had to go to NXT if he went to WWE. I don't think he didn't want that.

SPEAKER_04: 1:49:26

Which I'm also sure was a pay cut. Definitely would have been a pay cut. And now he is there doing nothing. Until now. And even now, it's he's I mean, technically he's still doing nothing. But he did cut a promo on uh on Swerve to talk about how the fact that like you need to get to the back of the line, type shit, about fighting Samoa Joe for the title and all this other stuff. So winter is coming, they're gonna be fighting each other.

SPEAKER_05: 1:49:57

Isn't shouldn't World's End be happening at some point? At the end of the year, maybe. Yeah, because I'm I haven't seen them talk about any promotions to World's End, and that's their end of the year pay-per-view, and we're like what week two almost in December. No, we're well, we just finished week two. I was gonna say we're almost into week two. Oh, I know and we haven't done any promo to World's End. What are you talking about? We got uh Eddie Kingston and uh No, I'm gonna say like have they talked about World's End? Because I haven't been watching the product, so have they talked about World's End?

SPEAKER_04: 1:50:28

Eddie Kingston and Samoa Joe are I'm I'm I believe it's those two at World's End fighting for the title.

SPEAKER_05: 1:50:35

I know I knew that match is supposed to happen. I just didn't know it was at World's End. So yeah. I'm pretty I I could be wrong. I ain't gonna I mean it's it might be at Winter's Coming.

SPEAKER_04: 1:50:45

I I don't think so. I really don't, I don't really think so. But at the same time, you know, AEW is so like uh they're not make they don't make it easy for me to want to fucking care.

SPEAKER_05: 1:50:59

So it's like well well not to deviate too much, but so go back into New Japan and you talk about are there at least certain tag teams that you have enjoyed seeing so far?

SPEAKER_04: 1:51:10

I mean, as of right now, um uh War Dragons. Yes, I'm really fun, bro. That's that guy, Shingo 2. I like that little they do a fella that I like War Dragons. Yep. Um and I believe who evil's part of uh House of Torture. The House of Torture.

SPEAKER_05: 1:51:33

Him and Don Fale.

SPEAKER_04: 1:51:34

I really like the House of Torture guys a lot. Freaking that one like freaking like gray beard big man. Yeah, that's Don Fallet. Well, that's what Don Fallet.

SPEAKER_05: 1:51:45

He was from he was the the one of the original Bullet Club members. He was Badluck Fale. Now he's Don Fale.

SPEAKER_04: 1:51:52

Like, I uh uh because the last episode I watched, it was like them, and they had like this guy, what is his name? It's like he was like Poofs Jr. or something like that, or in the team, or he was in he so there was a point where like uh dude came out and he was like he he started cut he was cutting his promo. He's saying he was dick.

SPEAKER_05: 1:52:15

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like two or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's one of the members of the group, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 1:52:19

Yeah, it's like because that because that that episode was the last episode of I I watched.

SPEAKER_02: 1:52:25

He's been doing like two weeks now.

SPEAKER_04: 1:52:27

It's like he comes out there, he's talking shit, and then it's like in the middle of the which is crazy because like in the middle of the match, he like he interferes and he gets beat up outside the ring and shit. But um, what belt does Evil have?

SPEAKER_05: 1:52:39

He has the never uh never open weight title. What does never open weight mean? That I at one point knew in my life, I don't right now.

SPEAKER_02: 1:52:49

Got it.

SPEAKER_05: 1:52:50

But that I will admit, I it was a title that I also I thought it was like because I know people like um he's in the ops. Uh Japanese guys in the ops, yeah, Shabata. He was one of the big people that held the belt because it was like almost like Ring of Honor's pure title. Okay, like it was kind of something like that. And I don't know if it's still that, but it was the equivalent of that.

SPEAKER_04: 1:53:18

Got it. Okay. But yeah, no, like right now, those two teams are the ones that catch my eye like the hardest.

SPEAKER_05: 1:53:25

That's because evil evil is Japanese Undertaker. I don't give a fuck what you say.

SPEAKER_04: 1:53:28

I mean, that's fair. I see it. I can see it. But it's like uh those two, uh so Yoto Ice and and fucking Oscar. Um I like them. They're cool and all, but uh uh I'm I'm still I'm still waiting when it comes to them. Because I also don't want to I I feel like if I'm just all yeah, I like it, I I feel very bandwagon y.

SPEAKER_05: 1:53:58

Yeah, no, I get it. But uh but like The Swagger, the the aura is there. It's kind of like you want to do it off the strength of the aura.

SPEAKER_04: 1:54:06

It's there. Now, one thing I will say, now that I've watched Yota Ice a couple of times here, uh he reminds me of whenever you watch like a Japanese movie, and it's like they got that one the one goofy uh character who's usually the more heavy set one.

SPEAKER_05: 1:54:32

Kind of like how uh you remember um Kong Pao into the fist where he had the duty, he'd always hit the music, and he would dance with the boombox.

SPEAKER_04: 1:54:42

He reminds me of that person, because like in some like in your like old like Japanese martial arts movie or Chinese martial arts. In those old martial arts movies, you know, you have the main character, but there's always the one chubby dude.

SPEAKER_05: 1:54:59

Oh, like in the Jackie Chan movies, when he used to have that one guy who was the director of all those movies, by the way. Um, he would always have like a situation happen to him, but he was a chunkier guy, but he's a kung fu legend.

SPEAKER_04: 1:55:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 1:55:12

And I know what you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 1:55:14

He he he he often comes off as that because they're they're kind of silly, kind of goofy a little bit. Which is kind of funny because it's like you know how people always say, you know, like, you know, the Japanese like uh uh uh uh appropriate black culture.

SPEAKER_05: 1:55:31

He does have a move called the the the Bomba Claudney.

SPEAKER_04: 1:55:35

Okay, yeah, he does have a Bombaklad knee, but it's like one of those things where, you know, because he's kind of has like this gangster rapper appeal to him, there's like a certain part of it to me where it's like it's like it feels like he's like low-key culture appropriation. I won't even say he's like appropriating the culture, but it's like sometimes it feels like like like well let's say it's like alright, he's definitely portraying a black gangster rapper right now, type situation. Like, like I like you're you're like and it's like he's he's just ever so slightly overdoing it. But at the same time, like another black person would see this and be all like, that's straight up, he's appropriating our culture. Why not we have just a black man do in his spot? Yeah, and they're and they actually know what they're doing, yeah, type thing. And so it's like I see that, it doesn't bother me because I'm cool with it, because then it's like him, this he's you know, him doing the super gangster shit and whatnot. And then you look at his tag team partner, this stoic big man, as far as height goes.

SPEAKER_05: 1:56:59

Basically, it looks like if Kane and Undertaker had another sibling.

SPEAKER_04: 1:57:05

Yeah, like like you know, him him teamed up with this guy, and it's like they're they completely clash in look and style, but they're a really good tag team. It's like I like that aspect.

SPEAKER_05: 1:57:20

It kind of gives me a little bit of um uh big cass and uh uh what's his name?

SPEAKER_04: 1:57:30

Uh you're talking about uh Enzo and Yeah, it gives me that. So the vibe is there, but it'd be if you know you have it's because it's really like take that idea, but then it's like where Enzo is the rapper, Big Cass is an emo kid or something. Yeah, literally, but for some reason the emo kid and this rapper are the knockout brothers, they're like the the knockout brothers.

SPEAKER_05: 1:57:57

So there's a reason why, and I love how commentary has been doing this. So apparently, Yoto actually was in Germany for his excursion and was around Oscar, and that's how they bonded.

SPEAKER_04: 1:58:11

Oh, we'll see. There we go.

SPEAKER_05: 1:58:12

And and that's what I'm saying. So it's shit like that. While commentary says these small moments, these are things of that nature, and the same thing goes for uh um uh Yoto, Yoto Yoto, uh Yoto and Gabe Kid. Apparently, when Yoto went to the UK, he actually was doing his excursion there, he was staying at Gabe Kid's parents' house with him. Interesting, yep. Okay, yeah. So they were bonding because you know, on excursion, he was there and he was at Gabe's kid's house, and you know, that's kind of where they're like, you know, we we cool.

SPEAKER_04: 1:58:48

Got it. Okay, I mean okay, I see that. Yeah, but it and it but but to the whole thing for New Japan, the the commentary is key. Uh for it is key for making everything make sense and then also putting forth this the story of what's happening with everything kind of thing. Now, of course, in the midst of the match, which is something you don't which is like something you don't see a whole lot of like in other wrestling, but like there is there's there's been a couple of moments where like in the middle of a match a di dialogue is happening. Now, depending on who the commentator is, will they either be able to tell you what the fuck is going on or they'll just be all like Well this this this Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 1:59:46

It depends on which commentary is one of them knows Japanese, so yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 1:59:49

Commentary is hit commentary is hit or miss.

SPEAKER_05: 1:59:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 1:59:52

As far as them being good. However, but the one thing commentary is good. But one thing that they do do is they will at least. Give out and lay the story out, regardless who the commentators are. Because I've all uh since I've been watching, there's been two different guys out here. Now, the other interesting thing is that sometimes they'll have a wrestler will come in and start talking with them. And the last one of the last was it was Lance Art Lance Archer's tag team partner. Oh, monst from Monster Sauce? Yes, sauce. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fam, he was saying some real sus shit, bro. Nigga, yeah. He was there was literally there was literally a moment where like one of them was like actually I think it was him. Cause like he he almost like he kind of set him up to say something that was like wild, and homie was like, hey yo!

SPEAKER_05: 2:00:44

I was like, I gotta watch it. I even watched that. I don't know if it's it's just if if it's recent, I gotta see it. But I do love me some monster sauce. Pause. But uh the team is really fun. The team is fun. Yeah, they're straight. They're straight.

SPEAKER_04: 2:00:58

But but yeah, well, I mean, overall, right now, is it New Japan has been pretty has been a positive showing. And so it's like right now, in comparison, right now, like you know in comparison, New Japan is is it's holding my attention more than AEW, I'll tell you that much.

SPEAKER_02: 2:01:17

Damn.

SPEAKER_05: 2:01:18

Like I mean, they you don't even know their goddamn language. And that's like the that's like the only that if there was any gripe, it that would be the fact that it is it is the only gripe because when they be cutting promos sometimes, and if nobody can translate the promo, you're just like, Well, I want to watch, I want to hear the promo, I want to know what he's saying.

SPEAKER_04: 2:01:38

Yeah, like I I wish that New Japan had a way where they but the problem is doing subtitles for live footage is it's very difficult, yes. Very it's not just difficult, it did it sometimes and most of the time just doesn't fucking work. It's always like, well, you know, hey, we get it in where we can fit it in, you know what I mean? So but yeah, uh New Japan's great, it's fun, and this is only and this is the tag team stuff, yeah, which is like comparatively speaking, the not as fun stuff, at least that's what I hear from most New Japan fans. People are all like the tag league, nah, you gotta watch when they do the fucking G1.

SPEAKER_05: 2:02:23

G1 is when you will see AEW quality shit in there. You will see that because that's when they gotta show the fuck out. But the tag league is an introduction of like, okay, this is what it can be.

SPEAKER_04: 2:02:35

Which honestly, I feel is like a like doing having watching the tag league, I feel is probably a really great way to introduce someone to New Japan.

SPEAKER_05: 2:02:47

Familiar faces, yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 2:02:48

Because you're yeah, you're getting to see you're seeing faces over and over again, and then and then the people who you're seeing, because you'll see them, and then be if they're a team, you do from time to time get to see the people who they are affiliated with, yes, and all that stuff.

SPEAKER_05: 2:03:04

So still Chase Onens and the night house of torture and all them. But I'm glad you're enjoying it, and you know, as we come back next week after watching some product, you know, we could definitely uh do so. We gotta get Mr. Uh Mr. McKinnon always winning on here because we want to do that next episode. So uh for the holidays is coming up, we're gonna still have an episode. We're just gonna have to time it out of how we're gonna get everything. So you guys will be getting um still episodes every week. But uh before we kind of wrap things up, do you got any final thoughts or whatever?

SPEAKER_04: 2:03:39

For for those who are watching, make your voices be heard. Keep story alive in wrestling, please. Because without story, wrestling is just two guys slapping me.

SPEAKER_01: 2:03:56

Whoa. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

SPEAKER_05: 2:04:02

Are we now ending episodes with very wild fucking statements?

SPEAKER_03: 2:04:07

Because that happened last time, bro. And in the one game. Alright, so we're gonna end the episode with that. Uh, you know, the ring is sacred.

SPEAKER_05: 2:04:20

So you know but uh yes, I think that says enough. Story keep the story alive and wrestling, alive and wrestling. Keep story alive and wrestling. So as always, guys, uh, it is the demon that leaves your girl screaming, the masaku.

SPEAKER_04: 2:04:39

The demon that leaves your girl screaming. It is your boy. Swag switcher in the building, as always.

SPEAKER_05: 2:04:49

And remember in every situation of wrestling, the ring is sacred, the questions are real, but the destruction is guaranteed. So you will see us here next week. Please hit the like button, hit the subscribe button. Until next time, we'll see you soon.