AEW Worlds End Review and Sports Illustrated Really?!

World’s End promised a last swing at glory and left us arguing about what actually matters: can elite wrestling save a card when the story won’t? We walk through the whole night with clear eyes, starting at a pre-show full of tags and Bandido buzz, then into a Takeshita vs Okada match that saved too much for somewhere else. The screwdriver landed, the temperature didn’t. That becomes a theme—big moments, thin connective tissue—until a heel-heavy, well-told tag bout (FTR vs Bang Bang Gang) reminds everyone how heat, pacing, and a cruel finish make the next chapter feel inevitable.

We put real time into the women’s picture too. Chris Statlander’s in-ring is there; the character engine isn’t. Willow shines through every minute she gets. The card needed fewer exhibition-length matches and more tailored rivalries that pull identity to the surface. Then we get to Moxley. His semifinal with Kyle Fletcher overdelivers, but the face-leaning tone and the Okada result raise eyebrows. If this is a setup for PAC to take the Death Riders’ wheel, the tells are on camera. If not, the logic needs a bridge we can actually see.

The main event? That’s where the show finds purpose. Swerve and Hangman arrive with mutual respect, Samoa Joe holds gold, and MJF parachutes in like the only adult in the room. He didn’t just win; he reframed the belt as a chess piece and forced everyone else to level up. That’s the role AEW needs from him right now: the heel who’s hard to beat, smarter than the room, and a rising tide for the top of the card. We close by tackling Sports Illustrated’s year-end awards and what “best in-ring,” “best on the mic,” and “wrestler of the year” should mean when you weigh craft, story, and actual seasons. EO, Becky, Punk, Seth, Bronson Reed, Kyle Fletcher, and TNA’s climb all deserve their flowers in that conversation.

If you’re here for clear takes, smart context, and chaptered navigation through a polarizing show, you’ll feel right at home. Hit follow, share with a friend who loves a good booking debate, and drop your pick for wrestler of the year in the comments.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Cold Open And Hosts Introduced
• 3:55 Pre‑Show Tag Rundown And Bandido Buzz
• 9:40 Dynamite, Collision, And “Wrestling To Wrestle”
• 14:20 Women’s Division Notes And Mina’s Losing Skid
• 18:55 Bandido Beats Ricochet And Title Stakes
• 23:55 Okada vs Takeshita Build And Letdown
• 30:20 Don Callis Screwdriver And Slow-Burn Frustrations
• 34:10 FTR vs Bang Bang Gang: Heel Heat And Finish
• 40:05 Darby vs Gabe Kidd: Blood And Whiplash Booking
• 44:20 Mixed Nuts Mayhem: Comedy Spots And Sponsorship
• 49:40 Statlander’s Character Gap And Women’s Tag
• 56:30 Moxley vs Fletcher And The Face Turn Theory
• 1:04:40 Okada vs Moxley Finish And Backstage Vibes
• 1:11:30 Four-Way Main Event: Why MJF Had To Win
• 1:18:20 MJF As Necessary Megastar And Next Steps
• 1:24:10 SI Awards Debate: Storyline, Rivalry, Promos
• 1:33:30 Best In-Ring, Breakouts, And Comebacks
• 1:41:45 Tag Team, Match, PPV, And Wrestler Of The Year
• 1:50:30 Promotion Of The Year And TNA’s Rise
• 1:57:30 Legacy Award Chat And New Japan Shifts
• 2:03:35 Year-End Reflections And What’s Next

Transcript

SPEAKER_03: 0:00

Bro, like it's funny, but it's like at a point it's like all right. Takeshka is out here eating all of the eating all of these like you know things while Okon is out here just looking like the while Okana is out here looking like Welcome to another episode of the Big Brothers of Destruction podcast.

SPEAKER_01: 0:31

It's the Masaku. It's your boy Swag Switch in the building. And guys, uh, as we are two brothers here sipping tea and talking about wrestling, get some of that, get some of that fruit real quick. Um, we we kind of need this because we got to talk about world's end, guys. If you haven't yet, world's end aew's final pay-per-view of the year happened last night. And boy, what a way to end the year and almost making poo-doo. Almost.

SPEAKER_03: 1:04

It's it's unfortunate because AEW, so when uh I I was explaining this to actually someone in the chat, because they were all like, wait, AEW's having a pay-per-view, how is it? And I'm like, it's an AEW pay-per-view, and it is, and it's and and honestly, this one was like almost a super AEW pay-per-view, in my personal opinion, because they really ramped up the wrestling on this. However, the as far as story and everything else with it, it was like on the side, it was eh. I'm talking like from almost from let me put it for me, the one big highlight for the pay-per-view was um the the ending.

SPEAKER_01: 1:55

So you basically saying the whole pay-per-view, I mean, yeah, the the there's two things about this paper you gotta talk, we gotta talk about everything else and and another funny thing. Remember, I sent you that meme? I'm gonna go into this thing. Remember, I sent you that meme about the mixed nuts and mayhem match and how pack was in it originally? Yes, you know why pack was not in that match?

SPEAKER_03: 2:20

Why?

SPEAKER_01: 2:21

Because they fucking lost, and pack has a win streak right now. He has not lost a match, so if you're gonna make him lose a match, you can't do it right now. He's the only one in the Death Riders who is on a winning streak right now. And to my knowledge, as we get ready to talk more about the pay-per-view, I'm gonna give you another hypothetical because I told you something last episode that actually fucking happened. Roll the tape! I told you that that stipulation that Drew created that Cody Rose can't touch him fucking happened, right? Yeah, there is that. And now I'm gonna throw another hypothetical. Once we get closer to that point, we talk about that match. So let's talk about Worlds and a little bit of the pre-show. Uh, the pre-show contains um Bandito. Tag team match, they won. Uh, Luchasaurus, oh, excuse me, the uh Jurassic Express and a couple other teams were in a match, and they did the whole, oh, we got beat up in the beginning of the match, and then Luchasaurus went to the back. He got taped up, he came back out, chokeslam, finished, the match is over, and then speedball and what's his name, Knight. Yeah, they went against somebody else in a tag match, and that was it.

SPEAKER_03: 3:46

Yeah, so it was just all the tag matches. Pretty much I can't remember if there was a singles. Fair enough. Because I I mean I didn't watch it at all. Yeah, I didn't know, but which is funny because usually you do.

SPEAKER_01: 3:58

I normally do, but because you were so ahead, I was trying to catch up with that.

SPEAKER_03: 4:02

Oh, that's fair. I was trying to catch up. Yeah, I mean, plus the pre-show matches are pre-show matches, which is unfortunate for Bro Dito. You know, and when I really think about that, because like number one, shout out to Bandito out here getting the dynamite ring and having a hell of a match on Dynamite, which I don't want to talk a whole lot about dynamite, but like Dynamite's episode is almost a direct reflection of what I feel about this pay-per-view. Dynamite was just a bunch of wrestling for no reason outside of great matches. It felt like it was like the like a house show. And not just that, that, and I also because I also watched collision too, and it was just it was just a bunch of matches with a little bit of Christmas sprinkled on top of it, but it was just it was just wrestling to be wrestling. And and and of those things, the thing that stuck out the absolute most for me, outside of uh Arena Shafir just choking out, giving mother's milk to uh uh that move is crazy, bro. Mother's milk? Yes, fam, listen.

SPEAKER_01: 5:15

There's a there's a lot of reasons why I'm not gonna say on camera.

SPEAKER_03: 5:18

The first well yeah, when it comes to that particular match, though, I feel so bad for Old Girl because she's she just keeps catching these L's. She is way too pretty. And way too beautiful. Are you talking about? No, the one who she fought, uh uh Tony Storm's girlfriend. Oh uh Mina. Her wife actually says, listen, I need Tony Storm to protect Mina a little bit better because like Tony Storm out here letting her out go out here and just get her ass beat on a regular basis.

SPEAKER_01: 5:47

Um uh Mariah May.

SPEAKER_03: 5:50

No, at least Mariah May was a champion and she kind of held that shit for a bit.

SPEAKER_01: 5:55

I mean, but I'm just saying she used to take some of the L's for her before she became champion.

SPEAKER_03: 5:59

A little bit, but not this bad. In my opinion. I I feel at least Mariah May, she kind of sort of, you know. She to me, she kinda, she was supposed to take those L's because she was like the young protege. Like Tony Storm was like her, uh, what's the word I'm looking for? Like she was like teaching her type situation. So I was like, that's fine. But like, but this girl, because when she sh she showed up when Mariah May was around, and she was actually not thinking about it. I think she was losing back then too. Who, Mariah May or Tony? Uh uh, no, no, no, no. Uh um Mina.

SPEAKER_01: 6:36

Mina, yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 6:37

Because like it's like Mina showed up when Mariah May was kind of sort of like, you know, getting her wits about her and starting to win her matches. But I remember back then Mina was there. And this was like when her and Tony Storm were first kind of doing this whole like thing with each other. But like, even back then, I remember her like always losing. Like, yeah, she takes the pinch. She just be she just be losing. But like, freaking going back to uh Bandito though, like when he fought Ricochet, that was like the highlight of the week when it came to wrestling. Because though for me to a certain extent, yeah, that's the most that is the biggest rememorable situation that happened as far as AEW goes. Like I'll say that. Though there wasn't much to really talk about with WWE, to be honest. Carmelo Hayes? All right, I get sure, sure. But uh, but see, the problem is, because I got spoiled, it's like, well, that's old news now. It's still a moment, bro. We literally talked about that last episode. Still a moment, though. I ain't gonna lie though. Actually, but I I will say because actually watching the match, it was good. I will say that match and bandito and ricochet, those were the pinnacle for this week. Because, like, but of course, of course, Carmelo Hayes is gonna have a banger of a match with Iliad Dragonoff. They was doing that back in NXT for all intense purposes. We just got an NXT match. We got an NXT match, and I dare say I think they they either out they almost outdid themselves. I would say they stalemate.

SPEAKER_01: 8:23

I will say that finish though, like bro, like when he did uh what's his cold breaker move? Um it's uh first 48. Bro, he does the 448 and then drag it off, hits the floor, then gets back up just to bend over. I'm like, listen, I mean no, that that that setup, it's like it's clear as day. But like maybe another move to do a signature to get you there. Like, what if he did the first 48 and he was like uh uh and then then did this?

SPEAKER_03: 8:51

Maybe I think it was still fine, especially because Carmelo, he was quick about it. Like he like, he boom, and you blink and he was up on that.

SPEAKER_01: 8:59

Yeah, but I saw I just saw Dragon Off just get back up and it was like anyway. That's besides the point when we're talking about Bandito. Let's go back to Bandito if you want you wanted to have your moment and talking about Bandito.

SPEAKER_03: 9:10

Just number one, the fact that he won. Because I swore up and down they was gonna dick him and have Ricochet take that match and get the ring. But the fact that he won, and then like the how he came out to the ring. Because number one, he came out there by himself, but he was cloaked in the in the garb that would that represented Bro Dito. So he literally came out there with the shisty mask on, got the puffy jacket, and he got the homies like the chain necklace. So he was out there representing Brody King and himself at the same time. And then he fought the literally the full team of Ricochet with the Gates of Agony. And he won with them cheating. Because I but I tell you, I was watching, and this was like out of that whole show, outside of the dumb stuff that I picked up on. That was like the one thing that had me like, oh no, I gotta stop what I'm doing. Let me pay attention to this match real quick, because they really popping off right now. And of course, in the freaking under in the most underdog way, Bandito comes out with that W. So now he's got a chance to go after the the heavyweight title, which is kind of unfortunate right now considering who the champion is right now.

SPEAKER_01: 10:26

And they actually had a feud. They had a feud in ROH. Did they really? Yeah, remember a while back. MJF, I believe, was trying to get unmask him. But he unmasked his brother. He unmasked Bandil's brother, yeah. They do got a feud for that. They have an opportunity of creating a story with that now. That actually, that's almost triple H-esque of long storytelling, as he likes to say. Hopefully. Don't give him the credit now.

SPEAKER_03: 10:54

Even though it's potential, even though they're they're apparently the company of the year, but we'll get into that later.

SPEAKER_01: 11:01

We're not gonna talk about Monet being wrestler, female wrestler.

SPEAKER_03: 11:05

Oh, we'll we'll we're gonna get in all to that. We're gonna get into all of that.

SPEAKER_01: 11:08

But as we look into World's End, let's talk about the matches we have here. We have the semifinals for the Continental Classic, Takesha versus Okada. And they have been building up this few between these two for so long to make us think, man, when they finally get in the ring, it's gonna be a barn burner. It's gonna be a slobber. It's gonna be everything we would want a new Japan-looking match would be. And it was uh not, it was under, it was, it was undercooked. It was everything you would not want it to be. I it was so slow, there was no intensity.

SPEAKER_03: 11:43

But that's what this whole thing has been. It's like they're like, it's like they're trying to cook a pot roast, but they're waiting to, but they started cooking it and they're cooking it on low so that it'll take five days to cook for some reason.

SPEAKER_01: 11:59

I have a feeling that these are two men from Japan who say, hey, we're gonna if we're gonna do this match, we're gonna do it the way we need to do it in our home country. I don't feel like we're gonna get that match that we're looking for in an AEW ring. It will have to be in a new Japan ring. I only feel it.

SPEAKER_03: 12:23

I don't think so. I mean, I can see why.

SPEAKER_01: 12:26

Okada's a very prideful man of his country, and I believe.

SPEAKER_03: 12:29

I mean, yeah, so Okada sure is, you know, since he is he is New Japan coded, and Takeshka is the new Japan champion. Who will lose the belt at WrestleKen? Okada's, but it's like if he does, then it's like there would be no reason for them to have that match in New Japan.

SPEAKER_01: 12:50

And that's why I feel like they're not gonna give us that match unless.

SPEAKER_03: 12:54

And especially considering the fact, now there's a part of me that feels that maybe Takeshka might come out there and interfere in the match against the uh him and the ace.

SPEAKER_01: 13:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 13:05

Which will maybe like further like, you know, fan the flames for because like this has been a smoldering burn of a like rivalry that they've been having. And what's killing me is like I feel as if I felt like I should have been more excited for this match than what I was, but I and I ended up not I almost ended up not caring.

SPEAKER_01: 13:30

Now I didn't. Once I saw how slow it was.

SPEAKER_03: 13:33

Well, like I feel like as far as the way that they were fighting in the match was fine for me, but it's just the fact of the story and the meaning behind this match being the fact that you know Okada is taking Takeshka's shine and Okada is being very overtly blunt about him and about disrespecting uh uh uh Takeshka and all this other stuff, and they keep having these moments and they're all like Takeshka, hold on. You need to be, we need to be nice to Okada, shake his hand, and then Takeshka, you know, against his will, is like, fine, fine, I'll be the better man to shake a hand. Okada, like, ah, you know, and all this bitch, like all this stuff that's been going on, and it's like Takeshka.

SPEAKER_01: 14:18

I don't know why that gets over, bro. Like it's funny, but it's like attached like, all right, man.

SPEAKER_03: 14:24

Takeshka is out here eating all of the eating all of these, like, you know, things while Okai is out here just looking like the while Okada is out here looking like the, you know, like the like the the new kid that just got adopted into the family type situation. While Takesh is like the older brother is like the older sibling who now is like being pushed to the back because we're looking at this new kid that's got all the belts. Okada over here, like, but I'm new in Japan channel. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We got that, yeah. But Okada over here, like, so it's like this little rivalry thing, it keeps getting to a point where it's like little brother, little brother type shit. But it keeps doing this thing where it's like it gets to the point where it's like, all right, it's about to explode. It's about to explode. Okay, maybe not, maybe not, maybe not. All right, we're uh uh edging, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 15:17

Very much edging. And and the fact that how this match ended with the screwdriver, which is for some reason Don Callis' like ultimate weapon or some sort.

SPEAKER_03: 15:29

Well, that's because of homie with the stabbing, what's his name in the legs and all that? Yeah, Kyle stabbing uh Dustin in the knee and no, it was used before that. Oh, wait, Kyle used it for something else?

SPEAKER_01: 15:40

No, it's just the screwdriver was a thing they've been using like way before that. It's kind of been their It's like Don Call. It's like, remember how with uh John Corn uh Jim Cornette would come out with the the tennis racket? Oh, so the screw the screwdriver is Don Callis' like, hey, I'm gonna throw it to you and use it. Oh because they've used it in other matches before that match, too.

SPEAKER_03: 16:03

Oh, that I wasn't paying attention then. But yeah, like overall, I feel that like this match would have felt more like I would have probably felt better or cared a whole lot more about it if they would have had the story in line and had been pulled the trigger. Because even then, with this match, you know, he uses the screwdriver, he cheats the win, and he leaves, and Takesh is out here, look, has that look of like, damn, that just happened.

SPEAKER_01: 16:31

The thing that I side note about the match, I it took me a while. I want to bring this up. It took me a while to get used to um Okada's new thing. Bro, I want you to listen to that. I want you to close your eyes again when you hear this thing song and think of an anime intro. Oh, that shit sounds like an anime intro. Oh, 100%.

SPEAKER_03: 16:50

I literally said that while watching the match. But like, I but overall, I just feel like this match, if this match would have happened, I don't know, like maybe two months ago.

SPEAKER_01: 17:02

Maybe, yeah, it would have cared.

SPEAKER_03: 17:03

It would have felt more impactful. I would have cared a bit more. And it's like, because now I'm like, all right, so are we actually pulling the trigger on this rivalry? Nope. Like, are we are we finally gonna get them trying to beat the hell out of each other? Nope. Because if we don't, then I don't make any goddamn sense because Takeshka is extremely way too patient to have been dealing with hit Okada's bullshit this whole time just for him to be all like, no, no, no, no. Don says I gotta be good, so I guess I'll be good. No, no, no, we're past that now. We was past that the first time you tried to shake his hand and he gave you the middle finger, or when he like purposely closed line the hell out of you and smiled about it. Like, we are past, like, we're way, way past all of that. Like, at this point, they're making Takeshka look like a fucking idiot, in my opinion. And so it's like, I mean, he's about to lose that belt in a couple of days.

SPEAKER_01: 18:00

And so then we go into this John Moxley one. Well, actually, the tag team match is next. What tag team match? The FTR versus um the Bang Bang gang. Okay.

SPEAKER_03: 18:11

So I maybe I I almost forgot about it, but now that I'm remembering it, I will say this match actually was probably the better match of the night.

SPEAKER_01: 18:24

It the thing about it was, man, the way FTR was being, it was a little harsh, bro. They were being assholes. But also, they kept pushing this story. It made me feel like the bang bang gang was just gonna build up enough steam to finally make that comeback win. And then the ending was oh, let's do the pod driver on the trash can. And now, because you're never gonna get the belt, we're gonna do it on the belt.

SPEAKER_03: 18:55

I was like, Yeah, I ain't gonna lie. They was they was y'all, bro. They were healing it up a lot. Like a little too much. But like this match, out of all the out of the this match and the main event match are the only two matches that I really, really was like I was invested in because of the stuff that happened leading into the match.

SPEAKER_01: 19:17

There must have been a snail that was literally destroyed by assault because I swear to God, Austin Gunn was selling the fuck out of some shit in that match, bro. Oh, listen, he was selling snap to us. Damn.

SPEAKER_03: 19:31

I feel I I I really wish the Bang Bang Gang would have won.

SPEAKER_01: 19:36

But I was really hoping for it, yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 19:38

But for them to not win makes me wonder what is about to happen next in regards to the tag team titles. Because, like, we got uh FTR out here just where is the other gun? Him and uh Jay White are injured. Oh I don't know what brand. broke on them but it broke really bad and so possibly I mean he is they they are he is one half of the ass boys so I still feel like that ass crazy listen that listen daddy ass the ass boys they're ass men it is what it is they gotta come out there with some Latinos uh Latino women you know what I'm saying I mean that is where the cheeks be I mean they tell they get everywhere but like specific anyway um nah you know where the cheeks were at uh Jamie hater last night Jesus okay speaking of cheeks I could actually bring up this comment now so wrestlemania apparently where Charlotte Flair was going is uh Tiffany Valkyrie and Tiffany that's too forget Tiffany Strategy bro that fusion that fusion was crazy Tiffany Valkyrie maybe maybe she could actually cut a promo then uh listen how do you say it's Tiffany time in Spanish someone uh put that in the comments for me or something because that's anyway but Tiffany Stratton apparently uh Charlotte did the devil's kiss and Valkyrie made a comment and said her her devil's kiss wasn't that effective and and there's a reason why and she puts the the peach emoji next to it and it was a deleted tweet and it resurfaced and people are people are a little bit like hey yo bro that's kind of fucked up you can't really talk about person body like that like body shaming techniques it's a cheeky little joke that's it's there's two sides of it right now first off I just want to say whoever was saying the back like you can't be the shut up all right just shut up shut shut your ass stop it listen your big I I love my Charlotte Flair but she and I and we all know cheeks is not her department of of of glory all right and it's okay it is okay Charlotte got everything else that she needs she is allowed to not have cheeks and it's okay to talk about her not having cheeks I'm sure she realizes cheeks aren't her strongest area of of uh expertise it's fine it is perfectly fine because Valkyrie is right yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that's it's fun it was an interesting segue of bringing it up but yeah like I was watching WrestleMania and they brought it up that the that tweet surface and people were like mixed bag of like this is a cheeky joke you can't body shame so see y'all y'all some be like back in my day you know I yeah anyway anyway talking about the ass boys or technically bang bang gang uh they had a really great effort it was a good storytelling it was just the the finish made you the finish was the proper heel finish it was just man you ain't gotta do that to him bro like listen you already won man is anything that they are making sure especially with Stokely at their side they are he missed that spot which one the table spot oh the way that he outside the ring with the dive and the yeah bro that that looked like it hurt that look like it boy that shit hurt that shit hurt me but like but overall I honestly I and the and I you know what and the reason why I forgot is because I was so mad and disgusted about what John Moxley's match or just John Moxley in general because I have a whole thing I need to get off my we're gonna both talk about it when we get to it yeah and so but like and it's because of that it literally sucked all of the the the interest that because I was really watching that there that match or that the tag team the tag team match and I was looking forward to it because I really liked how like they they made me think that the bang bang gang was really about to really thought that shit bro I really felt that in my spirit bro and so it's like as a fan I hate it all right it they literally popped the balloon like you know donkey Kong the it was like I've always wanted that as a text message sound effect oh bro that's bro that's PTSD dog you're gonna be in the live somewhere and they're gonna hear that Donkey Kong balloon pop and someone's gonna be like who the fuck did that there that's though that is that is a PTSD causing sound effects I can't find it anywhere if I could bruh it'd be everywhere on my phone I love that sound I am a big fan of sound effects okay that's actually what I went on technically when I went to school was for it mixing and mastery but foley god is so fun anyway um damn that last pour was like fucking mad flavorful oh yeah no the melon you gotta actually eat the melon bro that shit's crazy um can I get a fork please yeah I want to eat some of this melon you know what that actually sounds crazy mango yes thank you my love he summoned this no we're perfectly fine thank you sweet oh uh no I put it on my cup um back to pot so um anyway um but yes that match they did make us care and uh it literally deflated a blow literally but um the next match was the continental match so I'm gonna talk about this as well as what the five had the final match here alright um first off I have to say um when I look at this as a whole honestly when I look at this as a whole what happens as what was the last bit technical difficulties but we're gonna go into the next match which was the semifinals continental classic match with John Moxley versus Kyle Fletcher so so when when when it when it comes to this I I I want to talk about this match like I wanted to go ahead and talk about this as well as the finish which ended up being Okada and John Moxley because this whole thing with John Moxley I something just don't feel right about so let me before I start going into it how do you feel about this this baby face turn that John Moxley has taken in like the last two and a half weeks so let me tell you about the hypothetical I have here with that is they are making John a face so that way Pac can be the new leader of the Deaf Riders.

SPEAKER_01: 27:29

So if you notice at that promo as the Deaf Riders were well and we're skipping a little bit by the way um as John was doing the promo at the finals of when he won the match the Deaf Riders just seem like what the fuck is like we don't do we don't big up people like this they just all just seem like they were off like John and yeah they still big them up after it but just look at their faces again it seemed like they were a bit off and I feel it's because John is gonna keep doing more face stuff and then pack which I mentioned this earlier pack was already taken off of the mixed nuts man uh mayhem match because the deaf riders lost and pack has a winning streak so he can't have that happen. So pack at some point I feel it's going to take over and then John becomes a face and therefore is now going against the Def Riders which is the complete dumbest shit ever but they're gonna do it.

SPEAKER_03: 28:38

Uh yeah it's it's it's kind of it's kind of bogus to us to a to a large degree when John when John Moxley I think it was either last week or yeah I'm pretty much I'm pretty certain it was last week there was a promo that they had it was like a backstage promo situation and John Moxley is talking and I'm listening to what he's saying and I'm like what are we doing here? He's talking about like you know I'm gonna put everything out there you know I'm gonna leave it all in the ring and da da da and you know I ain't gonna stop until like use every bit the last bit that's in me and blah blah blah and I'm like what is up with this baby face ass promo you're cutting bro like and this is and this is after the fact that we've watched him fucking damn near kill Darby Allen and and be in the and and and try to you know destroy the conglomeration and damn near kill Kyle I'm like I'm what they think Kyle like almost snapped his ankle which snapped his mindset he he used tai chi and he used pinpoints to turn his heel into a face whatever it is he did the heel turn technically he heel turned him into a face with the with the ankle lock. Alright all right that's that's what we're doing I mean they already pulling out this bullshit out of their ass so like I might as well pull some out of mine pause so it's like the only thing when it comes to the Kyle Fletcher match right the way that the the way that I feel about this match it was like because I went into this match not caring at all I actually was like when the match started I'm like I wish I could just fast forward through this because I don't care about who wins this match. I don't care about this match. Well I mean you kind of care because you was like Kyle should be winning which is true and that was just after the fact of being like well I gotta sit here and watch this because I want to get to the end of the pay-per-view and so here we are and it's like it's almost like like you know the because at the end of the day the match ended up being really really good like it was a great wrestling match like they they definitely freaking killed themselves out there so it was it was a great match to watch but it was like if it was up to me I probably would never watch that match because there was no real there was outside the fact that sure whoever wins this goes on the fights for the Continental Classic. So it was kind of like you kind of had to watch it to see or you'd be like you know what just wake me up when the classic finally starts but it was like it it was like almost like you know being forced to go somewhere that you didn't want to go and then not and then being upset about the whole time but the longer you're at this place that you ended up going to the more you're like you know what this place actually isn't that bad kind of thing. And you and you almost wish that you could have accepted going there prior instead of going there pissed off about being there and then slowly warming up to enjoying the place that's how I felt about this match I wish there was something about this match going into it that made me be like oh boy I cannot wait to see Kyle Fletcher take on John Moxley. There was none of that there was there was nothing that made me be like man I can't wait to see this match instead I was like man I can't wait for this match to be over and the longer the match goes all right well okay this match is kind of interesting.

SPEAKER_01: 32:28

Alright cool and then the finish happened then it was like John Moxley beat Sky Fletcher and he's gonna fight Okada what and that's when I sent you a message in the chat I was like well I mean Moxley can take the pen he's already been losing shit which it technically made sense of like okay Moxie will lose the deaf riders will get pissed maybe this is when they do the turn right boy and here it and we're gonna just we're just gonna skip to it because I need you to understand how pissed I was when we got to this match fam you know commentary was already gargling this man's boss bro talking about oh he's the best tournament wrestler ever he's you know he's never lost a tournament this this and that and talk about his strategy and everything and oh yeah he was strategic in that last match he was with Takesha because he didn't burn out too much but John Moxley gave it it all but now all of a sudden John Moxley beats the best tournament wrestler ever you have now fucked it up you fucked up Okada's thing every wrestler has a thing you fucked it up you have fucked up I need you to understand how pissed I was bro I fell asleep during that match by the way so imagine if I was imagine imagine if I was in my bed laying next to my wife and I would have said what I said in the morning. So again fell asleep during the match woke up actually with my headphones in and I hear MJF winning the match right that's fine.

SPEAKER_03: 34:09

I heard I literally am watching I'm hearing the the music hit and I'm like oh damn well I already know the end of that I'll watch it in the morning it's literally the last two matches fucking funny so I wake up in the morning I said let me start watching the match I hit I I'm hitting the shitter and I'm across the house because my wife used that across house and I'm telling you as I'm watching the match and I see John Moxley hit the Death Rider and get the one two three I was thinking no O'Connor's gonna kick out get the Rainmaker you know whatever and then I see he gets the one two three I said and you can literally hear me from across the house say I said this is the bullshit how do you fuck that up how do you fuck that up damn please tell me here's the crazy thing though which was the reason why I was like man I really wish you was caught up because yeah we used to be on message I know now why because at the time you didn't even finish the Kyle Fletcher match and so I was all like I had already watched I'm like because at the time you're all like uh I'm a match I'm like on that I'm on this match or whatever you're like you're like I you you were you you pretty much was saying the fact that yeah John Mossy ain't gonna come through I'm like but what if he wins this whole tournament I have a horrible feeling that he's gonna take this whole thing and then you went dark and you didn't say nothing again.

SPEAKER_01: 35:54

And I thought I did see the message though. And then afterwards I was like like once it happened I was like nah I got I wish I could tell you right now but I couldn't I think that was exact words and I was like maybe yes that's literally what you was all like I wish I could tell you something but I don't want to give you I don't want to give nothing away and I but everybody kept talking about somebody was supposed to make a return tonight right I don't know what the fucking buzz about that was because people were saying oh Jay White's gonna return or um somebody else is supposed to return right they kept just saying it over the IWC somebody was going to return I even saw a post and I think I screenshotted it and they said if Jay White doesn't return tonight we riot or some shit I don't know well I just yeah and that's why I kept I watched it through and I was like did I miss something I hope the riot happened or they're still working on it the organization but here's the thing J actually gives this promo afterwards to the frog in his throat trying to sound like Austin is this championship is for everybody who busts their ass during the tournament and uh you know everybody that comes in here and busts their ass every day this is a chance this is a championship for everybody else and you can again see the deaf ride I want you to watch it again look at the deaf rider is just kind of like I'm gonna have almost stank face. See I'm gonna have to look back and see that part for you because I was just blinded by the words he was saying because like he's talking about like this tile is for everybody who was part of this tournament and this is for each and every one of y'all and I'm like John Moxley who the did you bump your head like extra hard what are you doing you're the leader of the death right you know the the group that like didn't care about people and down with the establishment and wants to change AEW for the better so I'm not gonna so no one's gonna see the title until you guys are in a position where you guys have earned the right to see the heavyweight title and all this all of this dumb shit and then now here we are at the very end of the year and you're out here on like on on some like hey guys uh uh great job great job you know uh I did this for you guys and like great I'm like what what is this what is John Moxley and the Death Riders bro so what Brian Danielson was trying oh Daniel Daniel Bryan whatever fuck Brian Danielson was trying to say on a commentary was like I think the Continental Classic woke him up because he was saying like the AEW locker room wasn't passionate enough and for like them to actually have the title they're gonna be passionate enough about the company and to see how many of the wrestlers were doing what they did in the Continental Classic awaken that these are the people that are passionate about this company and that's why the promo was talking about you know uh the passion the passion the passion it's like but during that time like your most passionate people were gone so like I guess that's a very number one uh kudos to Daniel Bryan being on commentary because I feel Daniel Bryan is one of the only people out here who's trying his hardest to make sense of this chicken shit that we're getting Daniel Bryan is out here piecing shit together to try and make it make fucking sense when it absolutely doesn't. And that's what I'm telling you I'm gonna show it to you after the pause over I want you to see the Deaf riders and especially uh Mina Shafir she's just like what the fuck the fuck is this yeah like I'm this fucking job moxley shit has me lost however

SPEAKER_03: 40:00

The John Moxley in in in uh Adam in the Adam Page shit was considered the storyline of the year for wrestling. Crazy work, bro. Absolute crazy work. But once again, we'll get to that shit. Now, talking about the Death Riders and because like because we did skip before that happened, there was Marina Shafir.

SPEAKER_01: 40:22

Yep. Before that actually was the Gabe Kid versus uh Darby Allen match. Oh, do we have to talk about that shit? Two niggas try to kill each other. Okay, next. That's all it was. That's like I'm just kind of pissed because I'm like, I've been seeing Gabe Kid like actually like do good shit in New Japan.

SPEAKER_03: 40:42

Didn't see this match, and I was just like, Gabe Kid is practically a is a is a is practically babyface in New Japan. Almost uh a main of it jobber over there, but almost not. He's like and for him to come back over here to deal with Darby Allen way late after the fact, by the way, like Darby Allen got through that table. That was like damn near a month ago. Yeah, that was like almost a month ago. Yeah, fucking because we're in December now. Yes, that was legitimately a month ago at Survivor Series.

SPEAKER_01: 41:17

And here's the thing there's no well, you mean um blood and guts.

SPEAKER_03: 41:21

Sorry, yes, it was me, right? Blood and guts.

SPEAKER_01: 41:24

But no, yeah, no, it's blood and guts. But here's the thing that really pisses me off, too, because he's been in the world tag league doing his own shit for the last couple of months.

SPEAKER_03: 41:33

And then he wants to try and be like, hey, I ain't know you, Darby Allen, and da da da da and Darby, and and honestly, I I did like Darby's response. He was like, Gabe Kid, I ain't got time for no fucking Gabe Kid. Like, yeah, and then and then the whole jump session happens and blah blah blah. And it's like you can easily tell this match was put together just so we can get Darby Allen on the fucking on the fucking card. And we could also get these two people to bleed. Oh, that's right. They were our annual bleeding peoples, weren't they? I mean, but surprisingly it wasn't Moxley.

SPEAKER_01: 42:05

No, it's that's actually a fuck. That's how the world the world ends by Moxley not bleeding in a match.

SPEAKER_03: 42:13

But like, yeah, that match happened. Who it's like, who won?

SPEAKER_01: 42:16

I don't even fucking uh I think Darby, yeah, Darby won by some no, he won by a quick pin. So he rolled him up, got the pin, and he got it, yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 42:28

Okay, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 42:29

Took me a second because I was like, there's no way you're getting a clean pin on Gabe Kid.

SPEAKER_03: 42:33

Yeah, you're not getting but it's like not who cares? Like, I like once again, I I like I almost forgot that match happened.

SPEAKER_01: 42:42

And I yeah, I sat there and I was looking caged. Fucking theme song, bro. I can't stand that theme song it is.

SPEAKER_03: 42:48

So it's like, yeah, that happens. And then there's also the fact that the the mixed the mixed nuts match.

SPEAKER_01: 42:54

Mayhem, yeah. Which it was a comedy match with some brutality in it.

SPEAKER_03: 43:03

So yeah, that's really all it was.

SPEAKER_01: 43:08

Yeah, it really was. I mean, because you had the spot with uh Orig Cassidy and Tony Storm, which you talk my ass is looking good now, right?

SPEAKER_03: 43:17

But um listen, Tony Storm was great. I understand, Hader. Yes, it was. But Jamie Hader, which which maybe it's funny. I'm over here just talking about Jamie Hader's ass. It did not talk anything about the actual fucking match. Oh, we go we can talk about that because I think it's next. Um which uh which but the thing is though, the match was just one of the gnarliest fucking spots, though.

SPEAKER_01: 43:42

Which spot are you talking about? Yeah, that top rope. Uh what whatever fucking is one of Chris Statlander's moves. It's uh it's almost like a Falcon arrow, but it comes down to the room.

SPEAKER_03: 43:52

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 43:53

I was actually legit like, uh I think she might have really landed on her head and fuck something up. But anyway.

SPEAKER_03: 43:59

Yeah, they're there, yeah. They they they that was uh that was a spot. But it's one of those things where once again, which is like the theme of this pay-per-view, it's all like, oh, this match is on, all right. I really don't I don't care that much. Yeah, because I was like because like like right now, it's uh man, I really wish they could give me a reason to care about Statlander. And it's hard.

SPEAKER_01: 44:18

I love how she went back to her alien gimmick now. Like she just realized anything else.

SPEAKER_03: 44:23

Bro, she doesn't know what she wants to do. I mean, she's made it very clear that she's all over the place trying to, she's still discovering herself, she's learning her body right now, so it's like so I was gonna say something.

SPEAKER_01: 44:35

Wow. She's finding herself like eight.

SPEAKER_03: 44:43

Okay, anyway, but like Jamie Hayter, which goes to show, like like I said, like the match was okay for me. Like, I do think they did kind of if there was more match went longer than it should have. I can agree. I could definitely agree to that. Yeah, like it was a little too long. It it did kind of it did linger a bit. Uh, but the the delays did do their thing, but like I was absolutely more interested in her cheeks than than than the most of the match that was going on, and even then, I I'm okay with the way that it ended. Cause like, but because like Stat Lanner got that flat out straight.

SPEAKER_01: 45:27

Tombstone was ass, though. It's like it wasn't her Saturday night fever. She did a tombstone where it was almost the esque of Undertaker doing it to Hulk Hogan because her knee was the only thing that touched the floor. I want you to watch it again. Oh, yeah. And that Saturday fever. You got me, brother. It was like, bro, nothing touched uh except your knee, and you got it. It was like a very flat finish. It wasn't like a uh one, two, three. It was just one, two, three, and we're out. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03: 45:59

Bro, it is what it is. Stat lander, because she doesn't have character, and she's trying to figure out what her character is, and I feel like it's not even that.

SPEAKER_01: 46:09

She doesn't have a compelling story and opponent. There's nothing that makes you care right now.

SPEAKER_03: 46:14

I mean, that there, yeah, there is that too.

SPEAKER_01: 46:16

Why the Miss Bain? Why is she not in the when you've grown dirty, bro?

SPEAKER_03: 46:22

Oh, bro, I don't even want to talk about it. Like, they they stuck her in this tag division, and now we're just it's it's it is it's it could be so much better, but here we are. Like, now we're out here. Like, I feel like Statlander right now. Statlander is in the same boat that I think um Julia was in. No, no, no, not that bad. Julia's Julia's situation needs to be studied. Uh, I'm talking about um the WWE women's champion, Jade Cargill. I think that like Jade and her are in the same spot where they're too big for their britches. No, not even that.

SPEAKER_01: 47:07

I mean, like, they're they're they're two big girls, muscular girls, who anybody in a division is tinier.

SPEAKER_03: 47:13

No, that it's not even that, bro. It's just the fact that, like, good, literally, it's almost the exact same things. It's the fact that AEW has the new tag team titles, and they're trying to make the tag team division feel like it's something special. And so for them to make it feel like it's something special, and this actually is ditto for WWE, they're taking all of their big named female stars and cluttering up the tag team division with the big names.

SPEAKER_01: 47:46

Uh, yeah, because you got Charlotte, and you got um Naya, and okay, yeah, Ria, yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 47:54

Yeah, you look at all the women who are in the WWE Tag Division, and you wonder why the fact that Stephanie Valkyrie is out here fighting nobody. Nikki Bello. Yeah, like fucking, like You was right, though. And and then and and why Jade Cargill, who has the WWE women's champion, and she's out here messing around with B Fab, like Meechin, by the way. And Meechin. Like, like the two two girls who are low mid-card, okay, respectfully, but like these are low mid-card stars, and we're giving them women's chance. Like, when you look at the stats, not their in-ring, but the way their stats and the way they've been presented. Why the hell is Meechin in the ring with the WW Women's Champion?

SPEAKER_01: 48:48

And she was just going against Homegirl for the U.S. title, too. That's a big upgrade. That's uh rewarding bad behavior.

SPEAKER_03: 49:01

You you can't so you look over here, and now at least Jamie Hader's been on like a little next share. Well, no, I can't even say that because she was matched. That's it. She she lost the blood and guts match. Yeah. So it's like that's because of Tony. But still, but still, she's still but that she was still on the losing end of that.

SPEAKER_01: 49:24

Now, the only reason about the women's tag match.

SPEAKER_03: 49:27

Oh no, no, I was gonna talk about that.

SPEAKER_01: 49:29

But there ain't much to talk about. Uh besides uh, what's her name? Not not uh Willow, the other one. Uh, you talk about uh Harley? She got a little bit better.

SPEAKER_03: 49:40

Before we keep just to just to finish the thought on like the Stratlander is not a bad women's champion. Just like how I feel that um Jade. Uh Jade, well, I originally was like, why do we give the belt to Jade? But I realize it's not so much why we give the belt to Jade, it's more so it's like, why has Creative not given Jade a fucking reason to have the belt? That's what the real issue is. And so it's like, and then and right now I think they're both in that same spot. And honestly, goddamn uh uh Mr. Cowboy shit fits that same build where they gave him the belt, and they're like, uh, all right, I don't know what to do with you, bro.

SPEAKER_01: 50:25

And we're gonna give it to Joe.

SPEAKER_03: 50:27

And it was like, why? Why? And then when you look at the way they gave it to Joe, it's like, why did y'all give this to Joe? That's a stupid reason. Y'all got Joe looking like an idiot out here.

SPEAKER_01: 50:39

Like And his reign was only 35 days. Yes. He only defended the belt twice. And then and then you look at the people who defended against like fucking, why are we giving it why are we giving fucking noodle arms a fucking uh uh oh that was the other match in the pre-show with Eddie Kingston? That's why I forgot about it. Oh he fighting. I forgot, but um, what's the name from Power and Glory came back? Uh Ortiz. Or Taz, yeah. If you remember, he was with uh Santana.

SPEAKER_03: 51:11

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 51:12

He came back.

SPEAKER_03: 51:15

Yeah, who cares? But it's like I feel like Eddie Kingston also doesn't care. Like, some people are talking about how like if you look listen to how Eddie Kingston's been kind of like cutting his promos recently, it's all like yo, Eddie Kingston don't give a fuck right now, bro. He's just here getting it. He's cat he's just out here collecting a paycheck right now.

SPEAKER_01: 51:31

I mean, wouldn't you? I mean, uh, if you look like a king of the king of the bums.

SPEAKER_03: 51:38

Let me put it this way. I I Jeez, wow, first off, rude. I'll never look like no king of the bums on the ball.

SPEAKER_04: 51:44

No, I'm saying I'm saying Wow.

SPEAKER_03: 51:48

If I always look like a king of the bum. Well, listen, I need you to put a gun to my head if I'm looking like that, bruh. Put me the pastures, only other my ass, bro. Because I don't and my my brothers keep them. But but like, but yeah, it's just like their creative team is is bad. It's crazy that they got storyline of the year with the creative team that they're working with here. But like that match, but it's like that match was one of those, like, uh, I don't care. Match goes through and I watch like, oh, alright, well, I mean, it was entertaining. And so the tag match was kind of the same for me. You talk about the women's tag match? Yes. And the reason why it was kind of the same for me is the fact that, alright, so we got Babes of Wrath, okay? Now, going into this. Willow Nightingale is oh she's so good. Willow Nightingale is amazing. Harley Cameron is learning, and they went up against uh uh Athena and Monet, which these are two women who are supposed to be at the top of their division, okay?

SPEAKER_01: 53:00

She Athena has been a champion for a thousand plus days. Apparently, to my knowledge. She's like 100, it's like it's almost near a thousand. She's trying to do Bruno San Martino, Bruno San Martino's numbers and shit. And you have Miss, how many bucks she got now? She's got twelve, I think. With the dollar sign fucking symbol and the ring. So this on paper should have been a W for them. Because ain't no goddamn way Harley is even on the caliber of those two. Wheelow. Well, Harley knows.

SPEAKER_03: 53:45

And yet, which I was surprised about this, Monet took the pen.

SPEAKER_01: 53:50

Yeah, that's the thing she's doing right now. She's taking the pins and she's losing the belts, and she's supposed to be going to her crazy mode. So I'm wondering, what is this crazy thing that's gonna be coming up?

SPEAKER_03: 54:02

So a lot of people are thinking she's going to be, as I as I've been calling it, she's gonna go bankrupt. All right, she's gonna lose.

SPEAKER_01: 54:09

So we're literally doing the young box all over again.

SPEAKER_03: 54:11

She's gonna lose everything. And once she finally loses everything, then and only then will she become the winner's champion.

SPEAKER_01: 54:21

And so which I almost threw my microphone at this fucking at the camera, bro. Bro, it's almost I'm telling that she because I swear to God, that's where it's going. Are we doing a happy Corbin with her ass?

SPEAKER_03: 54:34

That's that's that's I'm pretty certain that's where it's going to be. And uh like they have a match, like she's gonna have a match and she's gonna beat them. She's gonna dog walk somebody on her next match. And so it's like it makes it it it in my mind, story-wise, it like it it's weird when you have someone like for instance, like John Moxley, he'll go and he'll have he'll have like a big match and he'll lose, but then he'll come on dynamite and get his win back.

SPEAKER_01: 55:14

I'm just like make it make sense.

SPEAKER_03: 55:18

All right, I guess it's rubber booking. Rubber booking. It's uh GMO.

SPEAKER_01: 55:24

Can we can can we make real life GMO? Because like I feel like motherfuckers need to get these ratings and get yelled at and get fired. Because I don't can you get fired if you do bad ratings?

SPEAKER_03: 55:35

You can't get fired.

SPEAKER_01: 55:36

God damn it.

SPEAKER_03: 55:38

No, you can't get fired.

SPEAKER_01: 55:39

What do you what happens if you get like the worst ratings?

SPEAKER_03: 55:42

Well, and you never do that because you so what I do know is whenever if you're if you're someone who is in a position and you have like you're like not first place in ratings, or you're like like in like third or fourth place or kind of thing in GM mode. Funny enough, what they do is they start throwing you bones, like, hey, uh you're getting this offer to try and do this, this, and it might help boost up the ratings. Like they'll give you, it's like they'll like start like giving you stuff to try and help you maybe catch up, kind of thing. Look at me. It's like you know, they they start uh like they'll there's one thing they'll do, like they'll be like, hey, you know, uh what's one of the offers that they like they'll be like, um they'll like, hey, uh we're we got uh insert a legend. Like I think like the last time they I was playing, it's like, hey, uh I got Andre the Giant who uh who just came into town uh uh in the uh and uh I want you go ahead and use him for your show. He might help boost your ratings up a little bit as like a quick guess. And literally you can get like they'll let you get, they'll give you a uh a boost in ratings. Yeah, because they're because because they're of their legendary status and whatnot. Whenever they're in a match as a legend, it brings more eyes to that match. So it can easily make like a two-star match become a three and a half star match just because they're in there. And then if you do the right things, then you can make it like a really good match. And so, like when I did that, I had him in the main event. I had him like fighting with somebody, and just so happened, I decide, like, you know, I'm gonna make it for the title or whatever. And that match, out of all the matches, well, it would normally have been like maybe like a three-star match, but because I put him in there and I put the right boost on there, then it went from a three-star to almost like a four and a half star match, kind of thing, which looks good for the ratings. And so, so yeah, they more so they just they they actually try to like throw you a bone and maybe like, hey, here have this, or hey, hey, hey, hey, maybe you should try doing this. So we'll give you some extra of this so you can try and catch up, type thing. And so that's that's how that ends up working. So you don't they they don't fire you. Uh they be throwing you bones. Yeah, they be throwing you bones. Man, fuck that shit.

SPEAKER_01: 58:01

Anyway, uh fire the nigga or do something, bro. Like, I mean, you can't because he technically owns that shit. But anyway, um, so yes, the tag team match with the ladies, again, the way it ends, I did not, I didn't expect it's like you want them to win the belt, but then you don't want them to win the belt because it's like no, I don't I don't think the match should have happened.

SPEAKER_03: 58:27

No, that part for sure. Especially considering the fact that those two now, granted, those two, they were in the original tournament, okay? They were in the original tournament. Early. Yes, they because I if I'm not mistaken, who did they lose to? Did they lose to Tony? I think it was Tony Storm and them. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01: 58:46

Tony Storm and her and the way, all right. You know what? That that's just pissing me off even more. You are out the tournament early, then you get a title shot. Make it make sense. Um, we talked about the Darby, the Dar the Derp Darby Allen match, and then we talked about that match. We talked about the Chris Statlander match. I think it's finally time.

SPEAKER_03: 59:08

Well, just because the only one we we mentioned it real quick, and that was the conglomeration versus uh the mixed nuts mayhem? Yeah, that mixed nuts mayhem match.

SPEAKER_01: 59:18

Was there anything specific you want to talk about besides the mixed nuts that was in there?

SPEAKER_03: 59:22

I mean, the the yeah, the outlandish name and the fact that they took Pac out of it, rightfully so. And it's funny because he talked about Pac. Pac wasn't there at all. Nope. He didn't he didn't come out there with John Cena when Moxley was cutting his John Cena babyface promo. And I'm gonna tell you, it's gonna be it's gonna add on to that. Why? That's what I hope so. So we can get some shit going. Because like, out of everything that happened tonight, the only thing is the fact like, okay, when what's her name? Uh when when uh when the tag teams beat the girl the other girls, like, you know, Monet, she's kind of sort of on this dire downward spiral, losing her shit, screaming and throwing stuff in her locker room. She's like, everything's okay, type situation. She's pulling a Bailey. So, not what do you mean?

SPEAKER_01: 1:00:05

With the evil, the you know how she be flipping and shit, and she be acting up.

SPEAKER_03: 1:00:09

No, no, no, no. She's she's she's pulling, she she it's not a Bailey.

SPEAKER_01: 1:00:14

I'm just talking about with the flipping of the attitudes, you know, how Bailey go off the radars.

SPEAKER_03: 1:00:19

No, I know what you're saying, but what Monet is, she's what Monet is doing, she is behind closed doors, she's losing her shit, but to the public, she's trying to pose like everything's fine. I'm still me, I'm still the best, da-da-da-da. You know, even though like cracks are showing and she's like doing one of those type situations, like that's that's where she's at right now. But like, yeah, no, like, I mean, uh, the conglomeration match was fun, but but yeah, there was nothing to talk about.

SPEAKER_01: 1:00:53

Yeah, there really is.

SPEAKER_03: 1:00:55

Like, I wanted to, but that's I'm thinking about like, yeah, no, no.

SPEAKER_01: 1:00:57

It was a fucking match. I mean, there was some interesting spots with like Orange Cassidy and Mina, you know, with the whole hands in the pocket thing, and that was interesting. Then, you know, Orange Cassidy and Tony Storm dancing, interesting, of course, and then uh the boggy, the the froggy bow, and then everybody doing their finisher on everybody, and then you know, the the the the driller matchover. That's what it was. It was it was just mixed nuts, and it was sponsored by a mixed nuts product, which is crazy.

SPEAKER_03: 1:01:30

That was actually, I think, one of the weirdest things about that match was the fact that, like, when they were introducing the match, they also in the introduction brought up the fact that this match is brought to you by da-da-da-da-da. I'm like, that's new.

SPEAKER_01: 1:01:45

I mean, they pull them to WWE by making matches named after fucking products.

SPEAKER_03: 1:01:50

Yes, but at least whenever they name the matches after the product, they don't go out of their way to be all like, by the way, like, like, I don't know, man. They did that shit for um fucking Cinnamon Toast Crunch. So I would say, like, they the way like the announcer doesn't do that.

SPEAKER_01: 1:02:07

Um, the Mountain Dew one. Who did the Mountain Dew? The Mountain Dew with uh uh Braid Wyatt and fucking uh LA Night.

SPEAKER_03: 1:02:18

Oh, I wasn't watching wrestling during that. I missed that. When we first saw fucking Uncle Howdy, that I was not I was not watching wrestling during that time. Bro, when I listen, I stopped watching wrestling, I went on a wrestling hiatus literally in between 2022. Actually, it stretched a little farther than that. I stopped wrestling, I wasn't watching wrestling from like 2021 to 2023. God damn. Yeah, I like I when I say I stopped, I like, and I mean I stopped. You didn't even watch the pay-per-views? Nothing, bro. Bro, that's that's like tradition, bro. Like, no matter what, you watch the pay-per-view, bro. I complete like I can easily say like Roman Reigns, like, I missed all of Roman Reigns' run with the the the whole um the bloodline, yeah. I missed all of bloodline, everything, even the J Uso turn and all that shit. The only I started what like I said, I only I started watching wrestling leading up to when Cody Rhodes won the title.

SPEAKER_01: 1:03:29

So the second WrestleMania?

SPEAKER_03: 1:03:31

Yes. Okay, that's whoa, that's crazy. Yeah, bro. I I literally stopped watching, I literally stopped watching. Like, I kind of sort of would like peep in with what's been going on. I'll see clips and like during that time, I probably may have watched like five episodes of the. You telling me you missed three manias, my nigga? Yes. I did not watch. I did not watch The WrestleMania where Cody Rhodes lost. Um what were you doing on those days? Nothing? I just wasn't watching. I just didn't know. Yes, there was that that period of time is probably the first that is a dark one. That was a that's probably the first time in a very in a long time where I completely fell out of like with wrestling. That's that's actually not a thing. I've never fallen out of like of wrestling before, but that particular time frame, oh yeah, bro. I like I I hard stopped watching wrestling.

SPEAKER_01: 1:04:34

You know what's interesting because that was the inch that was kind of what happened with me when I was staying with my um my dad. There was a point where I could not watch wrestling for like three years.

SPEAKER_03: 1:04:43

But see, you weren't allowed to watch. Yeah, I know. And so I I just didn't watch.

SPEAKER_01: 1:04:50

For those who are not aware, I had a uh a parent who did not like me playing, she allowed me to play wrestling games, but I could not watch wrestling.

SPEAKER_03: 1:04:59

Which is a weird thing. Like, all right, but but yeah, so it was like though those times were those those times I missed. Okay.

SPEAKER_01: 1:05:10

Well, let's talk about something that didn't miss. The final match.

SPEAKER_03: 1:05:19

I guess I can agree that it didn't miss. Because like, when I look at everything that we've been given, number one, hell yeah, the swerve coming out there with the green lantern get up. Yeah, I I knew your ass was on that shit, money. I knew that shit was dope.

SPEAKER_01: 1:05:34

I knew that.

SPEAKER_03: 1:05:35

But then again, like literally swerve strickling is like like Earth 7 me.

SPEAKER_01: 1:05:40

So yeah, literally, I was like, this is this is literally swag.

SPEAKER_03: 1:05:44

Like, like everything that swerve is doing, he everything that swerve strickling does, I'm like, that's you. That's you, that's you, yeah. Like the static shock, goddamn. Like, I'm like, bro, like you just just you're just taking all my shit, bro. Like you couldn't.

SPEAKER_01: 1:06:02

You if you can't wrestling, you can't do shit now, right? Honestly, you can get you can get swerve comparisons.

SPEAKER_03: 1:06:07

Yeah, now, yeah, people are gonna compare me to swerve. I mean, it already happened. Listen, my son, okay, was watching wrestling once, and and even now he'll still say it, but it was all like he's he he talked about mom. He's like, he's like, mom, it's like it's like uh grandma gil, is that daddy? It's like, no, that's that's that's not your dad. It's like he looks like daddy, and then he even told me, it was like, dad, I thought I saw so who looked like you on TV. I'm like, on wrestling. I'm like, uh, it must have been swerve, huh? Most dangerous, most dangerous. It's the you doing that.

SPEAKER_01: 1:06:44

What is no, no, here's the thing the reason why I did is because it connected him, but I'm still not a fan of it. Only reason why I liked the first thing was because even though his freestyle was garbage, it really was, it was him rapping it. And in the new one, it's nothing of him at all in it. He's not no, I thought he rapping it. No, look it up, it's not him. It's it's uh uh Raequan from Wu Tang, yeah, and another dude. And that's why I was like, okay, if he raps it, cool. He said he collabed with him. I don't, I don't the second verse does not sound like Swerve. He don't rap like that. I'll have to I know he don't rap like that.

SPEAKER_03: 1:07:31

I'll have to look up his Spotify.

SPEAKER_01: 1:07:33

You can pull it up on Spotify right now. I'm pretty certain that is him though. But if it is, I the second it's only two verses. Oh so unless he changed his rap name, okay. Maybe maybe I I'm just saying I when I pull it up on Spotify, it didn't say swerve on it. Oh, okay, fair enough. So that's why I was like, okay. But anyway, we'll we'll get to that. I'll show them afterwards. But uh I need to understand, because I understand when when they go into every match, you have a conversation, you have a negotiation on what is allowed in the match. I need to know the conversation that any wrestler has with MJF where he says, All right, somebody do the dick in your face spot. You cool with that? You you cool with that, right? I'm just gonna chuck my dick in your face. I want to know what the conversation with the other gentleman is where he says, Yeah, I'll take the spot. That's a good question. Uh because Swim took it. This nigga dropping mics.

SPEAKER_03: 1:08:41

Yeah, I mean, I can honestly say sure. Am I putting this one right if the bag was right? If the bag is right.

SPEAKER_01: 1:08:50

Well, I knew it. I mean, that's probably what he said. The bag is right. I mean, MJF is paying guys like, hey, an extra, extra$10,000 if you take spot.

SPEAKER_03: 1:09:02

Well, I mean, because the last person who he did it, like I'm pretty certain the bag was right. Granted, he was a jobber, he was a jobber dude, but his name was said on air. He is in an arena full of people, and on a TV that's being showed to thousands more, and thousands of people get to see you get thrust in the face by somebody. Yes, he got paid for that. Oh it's you gotta understand sometimes money speaks louder than pride than anything else. Especially if you are in his shoes and you're trying to make it. Listen, a thrust in the face could be a championship run down the line, bro. Think about MJF. Remember when that when we all going back to when that whole him and Samoa Joe was having her thing, and they showed the clip from back when it was in WWE and Samoa Joe.

SPEAKER_01: 1:10:06

And Samoa Joe freaking like okay, okay, so you're not gonna compare a push to a dick in the face. You are literally about to compare that.

SPEAKER_03: 1:10:21

There are Braun Strowman when he used to come out there with uh Adam Rose in the rosebuds, doing all that goofy ass dancing, dressed up all stupid.

SPEAKER_01: 1:10:36

You can say whatever you want to, swag. There is goofy shit, dig to the face.

SPEAKER_03: 1:10:45

Hey, listen.

SPEAKER_01: 1:10:48

How much they paying you, man? That's like that fucking meme where dudes be like, yo, and I mean, do what you gotta do, but they be like, yo, man, it's uh$100,000 per back shot. But like, nigga, you gonna have to get that nigga out of me. You have to pull him out of me.

SPEAKER_03: 1:11:07

Listen, fam. There are certain things that people have to do to secure the bag. And sometimes you can double the money and make it stacked, depending on how you run things. It is what it is. And I mean, you know what?

SPEAKER_01: 1:11:25

That's another thing. I'm gonna tell you about this after the pod. About the you remember the song Um I I'm gonna buy you a drink? Yes. I'm gonna tell you about it afterwards. You just that stack thing, you just remind me of something. But continue. Um, but I mean, a spot's a spot, fam. It is, it's just it is funny as hell, and it's just one of those like I know the conversation had to be had. What is the conversation of a so um so who am I slapping my dick on in this madness where I'll take spot?

SPEAKER_03: 1:11:54

See, there's there's also a certain way that you say it. And the way that you're and in the way that you're saying it, yeah, no one's going to do that shit.

SPEAKER_01: 1:12:02

Because it's it's just that's what I'm saying. I want to know what the conversation is. Because how how does that conversation happen?

SPEAKER_03: 1:12:08

Because I mean, I I can't even think who was the other because I know the last time I saw he did it to the one dude, and he's only done it like to maybe like two other people. He's done it like four times. Well, um, but it's like, but who are the people who he did to before?

unknown: 1:12:24

No names.

SPEAKER_03: 1:12:25

Because I'm pretty certain the last time that he did it, the person who he did to last time beat him. I mean, look. Now, Grant, once again, the person who he did to prior, it's a jobber. You know, like you do whatever you want to do to jobbers, kind of thing.

SPEAKER_01: 1:12:41

Yeah, back in the day, they used to use some brandy shit to jobbers.

SPEAKER_03: 1:12:45

Yeah, they used to be they was legitimately beating the shit at Doctors.

SPEAKER_01: 1:12:48

Killing them niggas.

SPEAKER_03: 1:12:49

Because they're they're just there for the night to collect a quick paycheck and get a little on-screen time. Man, I couldn't do that nowadays.

SPEAKER_01: 1:12:55

Anyway, uh, besides that spot, I felt this match on paper was a little bit of an overkill.

SPEAKER_03: 1:13:08

Overkill.

SPEAKER_01: 1:13:09

Yeah, I mean, you got Swerve, Hangman, Joe, M Dreal. That is a stacked match.

SPEAKER_03: 1:13:18

Yes.

SPEAKER_01: 1:13:18

Two of them two of the individuals are on the same team. Kind of. You know? And motherfuckers they team it up.

SPEAKER_03: 1:13:27

They uh they're on the same page. To a certain degree, yes. They because they found a new respect for each other. So here's my take on it, right? When it comes to this match, because I don't think it was overkill. As a matter of fact, I think it's exactly what AEW fucking needed. Right? Because going into this match, until MJF put himself into this match, who gave a fuck? Who cares? We've actually seen this match, this exact match, once before. Now, the last time we saw this match, we cared about it a lot more because the two, because it is funny, because like the last time this match happened, one. So in the similar fashion, I think he did, if I'm not mistaken. But in that similar fashion, right? The last time this match happened, right, Samoa Joe was the third wheel to this match, and he was the champion at the time. No one cared about Samoa Joe. Everyone was focused on the feud between Swerve and Hangman. That's the only thing that anyone cared about. These those two were constantly going at each other and at each other's throats before it and during it. And then every time Samoa Joe will be like, Hey, the champ, look at me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And so that's what was going on. And then now the script is flipped, and now the two guys who were originally fighting, they're now on the same page and they're good with each other for the time being. But they also know respectfully, I will fuck you up. I will mess you up because I want this title. And then there's Samoa Joe over here, who once again is the third wheel, and he's the fucking champion. No one cares about Samoa Joe as the champion, no one even really cared about how he got the title to begin with. Look at the story.

SPEAKER_01: 1:15:27

I might be a one percenter because Joe my nigga look at the story, Joe my nigga, though.

SPEAKER_03: 1:15:31

Yes, and what he's been doing out here cutting stupid promos, trying to make try trying to cover up and fix how stupid they've made him look up until this point.

SPEAKER_01: 1:15:41

Joe's gonna kill you, bro. If you keep talking about that, bro, listen.

SPEAKER_03: 1:15:44

It is what it is when they had him out here because he get the he drops the bell, it's like you're gonna disrespect me like that. Like, well, we're fucking stupid. Yeah, I mean, yeah, but but but it hasn't gotten better.

SPEAKER_01: 1:15:57

But but it's just my nigga Joe, bro. Okay, all right, sure, sure, sure. You know, you know how you're gonna have you know he you always stand by Charlotte. I'm always standing by I always stand by Joe, bro. Because as a big nigga, he doing it, bro. He doing it for us, bro.

SPEAKER_03: 1:16:12

He's trying, he's failing.

SPEAKER_01: 1:16:13

I mean, but no, he's a big nigga who's still doing it and he's doing it good in the ring.

SPEAKER_03: 1:16:18

Okay, all right, all right.

SPEAKER_01: 1:16:19

And he's old too, my nigga.

SPEAKER_03: 1:16:21

But who cares about this story about him in the ops and all this?

SPEAKER_01: 1:16:25

I give a fuck about my nigga holding the belt.

SPEAKER_03: 1:16:27

All right, well, well, I'm sorry you like horrible storytelling.

SPEAKER_01: 1:16:37

Because someone has to do this podcast. Nigga, that's why I'm watching New Japan, bro. Shit. Anyway, let's finish this so we can talk about the sports illustrated shit.

SPEAKER_03: 1:16:47

The story was ass. All right. MJF has shown up going back into something we talked about before, the actual star on AEW. The megastar. The real star of AEW with his McCauley Coat and comeback. Freaking, cuz truth be told, Swerve and Hangman, they're almost there. But they need someone like MJF to get them there. And that is why when MJF showed up and then he cut that that wonderful and fun promo against all of them. Listen. Called him Diddy, bro. Listen, he he got to, but what's great is the fact that uh the only other thing that was actually entertaining about Dynamite was when Hangman and Swerve came out there like, hey, uh, we're not just gonna let you do what you did to us and fucked him up. Yeah, no, we're we're we're going to beat your ass. And they came down to the ring and they beat his ass. And then Hangman choked him out with it with a chain. And Sorizar here, Sorizier is like, wait, wait, loosen up a little bit. I don't want him to black out while I'm talking to him. Yes, that. Yes. And they made that match worth me freaking watching. Granted, I knew MJF was going to take this belt because that's the only thing that would have made sense. If we would have got it, it didn't matter who pinned who, it just mattered MJF winning the belt and then him weighing the belt relatively clean to a certain degree. No, he won it in an MJ clean way. Exactly. And so it's like they are getting ready to hopefully start building some shit in there because now because MJF has got this new mindset. He's no longer the shit-eating heel. He's look that it looks like they're making the devil again. They're making him be that horrible heel that you hate, but when he's in the ring, it's hard to beat him type situation. Which is what they need right now.

SPEAKER_01: 1:19:04

They outsmarts you every time, yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 1:19:06

Which is what they need right now.

SPEAKER_01: 1:19:08

He's like a he's like Hunter, but like who I don't know Eddie Guerrero Hunter. Because he's like, he's the heel you hate, but he be doing some like cheat steal type shit.

SPEAKER_03: 1:19:26

Nah, I can't I can't get down with that.

SPEAKER_01: 1:19:29

Like, not completely though, like you know what I'm saying? He always has a no, he's a he's a he's Hunter and Seth Rollins, which technically Seth Rollins is trying to be Hunter. Because he always has a plan. Kind of.

SPEAKER_03: 1:19:44

And that's a Seth Rollins thing. A little bit, like, I mean, sure, but like he's he's not Seth Rollins.

SPEAKER_01: 1:19:51

He's not. I'm just saying he's like, he's like, okay, he's like this. It's Hunter, Seth, MJF.

SPEAKER_03: 1:19:57

Well, see, that's the problem. I can't. I mean, if you're putting it in a line of like comparing them, sure. But the thing is, and that's the part that I'm like why I'm big on MJF, is the fact that MJF is a one of a kind. Like, you can't, no one's doing it like MJF. No one has done it like MJF. You know what I'm saying? Like, sure. The problem with comparing the Triple H is the fact that Triple H has, at the end of the day, he has a savage, vicious side to him kind of thing, right? Ring-wise? Yes. Like, you know, his sledgehammer. Like, you know, that whole like I will cripple you type thing. Like, but but MJF, he's not that kind of a person. If anything, he is more of, he's like if you took what the if you took the idea of the million-dollar man and made him even more evil and used his money for worse. Like before he left, when he went to uh uh uh Ricochet and his boys, he's all, hey, listen, I don't like you at all, but I got a proposition for you, and we might be able to handle somebody that we both don't like. Let's do some business. And then later on that night, he gets the gates of agony and ricochet to find uh to find homie and be like, all right, hey, listen. So uh, hey man, I know you like this guy and he's a friend of yours. Uh how about you give me the match or I'm gonna set him on fire? All right, and uh give it to me right now. And then he goes through the process of here and it's like fine, fine, fine, he got the match. I'm like, good, good. Because I thought I was gonna have to set this man on fire today. Well, but okay, Triple H wouldn't do that kind of shit.

SPEAKER_01: 1:21:51

He would do he would do his own hands, though.

SPEAKER_03: 1:21:54

Exactly. Okay, okay. Yeah, MJF, he's he's it's he's different from that piece. And it's like with the Seth Rawls thing, like I can kind of agree with you the whole idea of him always having a plan type thing, or you know, trying to be a couple of steps ahead of someone, but like it's their per their personalities are too different, kind of thing. And then also there's the fact that right now uh MJF is genuine while Seth Rollins is fake. His facade, what he's doing, that's not really him. He's admitted it plenty of times. He doesn't, he's not this whole, oh, like with the dressing and all this other stuff. Like, that was Seth Rollins has openly admitted that it's just a gimmick. I just Oh, you know what?

SPEAKER_01: 1:22:51

You know what? Actually, uh there was a uh uh um a podcast he was in where he talked about how he was a really big hothead when he was first at NXT. And Dusty Rose, I think, was the one that came up to him because it no, actually, Hunter, Hunter came up to him and said, You're in your last fucking straw. Like if you keep acting up, if you keep being hard and difficult to work with, we gotta get rid of you. And I think I can't remember if it was Dusty or it was somebody who came up to him and was like, yo, who is your character? Seth Rollins. Okay, who are you? So okay, be the character, be the character 24-7 in front of WWE. When you go home, you go, yeah, and do all that shit you want to do. But when you are here, be Seth Rollins behind the curtain in the ring, and you'd be cool. And that's where he said, Oh, so be the character 24-7. Okay, I can do that.

SPEAKER_03: 1:23:44

But the thing is, though, is that the character that he's currently portraying is not truly him. I know, yeah, no, trust me.

SPEAKER_01: 1:23:51

That's what I'm saying. Even Seth Rollins itself is not truly him.

SPEAKER_03: 1:23:54

Yeah, and so it's like going back to MJF, the character that he portrays, that is for all intents and purposes, that is as truly him as you can possibly get, kind of thing. It's very authentic. There's nothing that he has to really act upon because he is literally just doing the type, he's just doing him, but as they say, turned all the way up.

SPEAKER_01: 1:24:18

Did you see his Christmas post? No, yeah, he had a Christmas post where he had his kid on his head, on his shoulders, whatever, and it was like a little family photo. He has this little skank little you know, stank face, whatever. And he says, I wanted to let you know I dropped the kid when the photo was done.

SPEAKER_03: 1:24:33

And I was like, damn, like you can't even like there's another person, another person who not necessarily reminds me of MJF, but like how they are so authentically themselves as a wrestler. There is a wrestler who goes by the name of Auguste Artois. And like the type of person that he is, the way he carries himself, the things that he does in the ring and out the ring kind of thing, it makes me think about how MJF moves in the sense where what you're seeing is what you get. And it's very authentic kind of thing. And it's like it is you can't really, you can't compare him necessarily to another person, you know, in the sense where it's all like, oh, August Artois makes me think of like uh like Dolph Zegler or something. It's like I I can't really say that because there is so much that August does that is so unique to him. And that's how I feel about with MJF kind of thing. And so going back into the match with how him winning this belt, him wearing this belt now, number one, solidifies him as the top heel because as heelish as Samoa Joe has been, uh like because of the story that they've kind of given Samoa Joe to have to piece his way through, it's not it wasn't doing anything for him, it wasn't elevating anything. Samoa Joe didn't elevate the title, he just kind of held it until somewhere to get the belt to actually elevate it. Because once MJF brings the belt up here, that's when everybody else can start trying to reach and grab for it. And hopefully once they get it up here, that will bring them up to the same stardom that MJF is.

SPEAKER_01: 1:26:33

What's that? Oh, what's that character on Mario? Uh, you know when you play Mario Kart and he does the he does the what's the Licari something like that? He's always on the cloud.

SPEAKER_03: 1:26:46

Oh, I I actually don't know what it's like look, it's like look something.

SPEAKER_01: 1:26:50

So basically, it's the equivalent of MJF sitting on this cloud above everybody, dangling the title and saying, You you gotta be like me to come get it.

SPEAKER_03: 1:27:00

I mean, at this point, yes. And it's what AEW really needs. Uh, however, they also really need the story to come and push it forward. Because as of right now, like, you know, they're on the the the the name power is only gonna do so much. And they're they're really pushing and trying. But I mean, overall, that was kind of sort of like the highlight and for me for the match. And it was a good match, it was cool and all, but I'm like, now it's the but now it's not so much the match. It's gonna be what's gonna happen on dynamite on New Year's Eve. And I'm I I wanna be optimistic, but it's MJF.

SPEAKER_01: 1:27:40

You at least know you're gonna get something good out of that. Yes, but so at the end of the day, the pay-per-view was a pay-per-view. It'd be a C to me for me.

SPEAKER_03: 1:27:54

Oh yeah, heavily a C. Heavily a C a solid C. Okay. Because it's that's all they got.

SPEAKER_01: 1:28:01

But what's about this uh sports illustrator?

SPEAKER_03: 1:28:05

So here we go. Let me go ahead and bring it up because number one, uh There is which I brought up before, there's like a low-key explanation that one could give as to why AEW was company of the year. But there's a part of me that feels, especially with the way that this the the the articles kind of was set up and and the people who won, I feel like they're not taking in account of everything. Okay. They're only looking at WWE and they're looking at WWE, it feels like, and I was talking to this with uh with one of the homies, it's like they're looking at WWE and AEW, but they're only looking at it's like they're only wanting to look at SmackDown and Raw, Dynamite and Collision.

SPEAKER_01: 1:29:01

Well, you also gotta remember, well, if that's the case too, because if you're also talking about promotions, NXT is supposed to be its own thing.

SPEAKER_03: 1:29:09

It's its own brand, yeah. Underneath the promotion WWE.

SPEAKER_01: 1:29:15

True, true, true. But I don't think they're trying to consider NXT.

SPEAKER_03: 1:29:20

But it should be.

SPEAKER_01: 1:29:22

Oh, it definitely should.

SPEAKER_03: 1:29:23

Because it because of the fact that because it's underneath the umbrella. Just like how with Dynamite, or just how with AEW, they're not necessarily considering uh what's that show that no one watches? Ring of Honor.

SPEAKER_01: 1:29:44

A ring of honor. Well, here's the thing you gotta take in consideration. NXT alone cannot save WWE to be promotion of the year. You gotta look at Raw on SmackDown. That alone, that's that's that's those two, right? And if you're saying that NXT is above those two and doing what they did, that cannot save it from being promotion of the year. The main flagship of WWE is Raw on SmackDown. You know what I'm saying? So, like, that's what you're tuning into WWE for. And the fans like us are tuning into NXT. That's why they never treat an NXT person on the main roster as if you've been watching them in NXT. They treat them as if you've never been watching NXT before because they understand the casual watcher doesn't watch NXT. They do that every time, which makes to me that sometimes it pisses me off because it's like I've been watching this person in NXT for like uh years now, and you're presenting them to me as if I've never seen them before? Fuck out of here. What the fuck do you mean? Like, do you not expect people to watch NXT?

SPEAKER_03: 1:30:48

Which I can agree on that. I can see your point on that piece, especially when you talk about that, because sometimes they like now like just talking on that with uh when Trick Williams cut up, it's like sometimes they will act as if NXT is non-canon. Yes, however, I do like that when Trick Williams came and was talking to the the Cody Rhodes, and it was all like, fam, I got this accolade. I've done this, this, this. I was the tri tri Trick and A champion. So we brought up the uh uh TNA title and all this other stuff, which was also another thing. I was like, damn, so like we are we not going to consider TNA in this as well?

SPEAKER_01: 1:31:34

Because like TNA had its up and downs, though.

SPEAKER_03: 1:31:36

Well, TNAs have had their up and downs, but they've if that was in the past.

SPEAKER_01: 1:31:40

Well, I mean, we're talking about this year, they they only started getting good like mid-year. No, no, no, no. They've been on the up and up ever since they became TNA. No, no, no. I'm talking about in general because of their connection with WWE, the product became more of a everybody started watching it. Like, again, you gotta remember, they're looking, they're probably looking in the the lands, the the the scale of what is a a wrestling fan, like a casual wrestling fan, doing, right? You're watching WWE and you're probably watching AEW because those are the two biggest promotions. You gotta think about us, we've been watching TNA for years, and we're gonna keep an eye on that product. We're also gonna keep an eye on the product of NXT because we were there when the black and gold was there. So we we understand those two products and we can get behind those two products. But the casual wrestling fan probably doesn't know where to fucking watch TNA, and unless you had the WWE Network back in the day, that was how we watched uh NXT. But now, since we're on ESPN and Netflix, you gotta still have Peacock to watch NXT.

SPEAKER_03: 1:32:49

Yeah, well well no, well, well the pay-per-views, I think, still come on. Yeah, but I I know what you mean by that.

SPEAKER_01: 1:32:57

Yeah, so it's like there, I believe they're going off of the casual wrestling fan standpoint. That's what I believe.

SPEAKER_03: 1:33:04

Which, I mean, I feel like you're correct when I look at the list, kind of thing. And and like I'm looking at like the just the overall list, not the not going in the details of what they specifically said about them, yeah, kind of thing. But you do bring up very fair and very valid points to look at when it comes to why they probably considered what they considered, kind of thing. And so I may actually have to let you have it on that one.

SPEAKER_01: 1:33:40

I think this is the first time you might actually give me give it to me. Like oh my god, why do you have to go? Why do you I'm sorry, bro? Because I was like, that was crazy. That was kind of crazy. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, you can't you can't not admit that was crazy. Anyway, continue. The first time you can give me a W.

SPEAKER_03: 1:34:08

Yes, that yeah, yeah. I'll I'll yeah, I have to I'll I'll I'll I will I will easily give you that W. Yeah. Because you you you said it in your broken down a way where I'm like, ah, you know what? When you think that way, like, that is true. That is true. Which, because of that, it also kind of makes it understandably why someone will think that any of this garbage is is correct. Yeah. So pretty much what I'm gonna do, we're gonna go through this list real quick. Yep. And the ones that you don't agree on, give me what you think should be there. Okay. All right. And so we'll start at the top. All right. Storyline of the year. Okay. They gave this to Hangman Adam Page in his redemption arc leading up to fighting John Moxley and taking the belly.

SPEAKER_01: 1:35:00

I mean, but the the promo he gave, though. I'm trying to think what was better. W definitely didn't have anything that was fellow. I think I might have to agree with it. I can't think of anything else.

SPEAKER_03: 1:35:34

You might remind me when you when you and this is because I'm with you on the fact that it's really hard to think of another storyline that was really, really good. Yeah. When you think about Hangman Adam Page and John Mox, uh well, hangman's redemption.

SPEAKER_01: 1:36:00

I mean, besides the trick and A situation, I was I was here for that. I was so here for that. And then just causing Rampage over there. I was so there for that. Like, I was like, don't, don't, he can't lose the belt. Like, keep it on him for a long time. I was here for it. But it I want to say most compelling story, it was like it was the most fun to watch.

SPEAKER_03: 1:36:27

So when it comes down to it, because like when I look at the hangman Adam Page arc, pretty much like when he kind of came back and he did the whole, you know, the the Owen Hart tournament, and and this was like him going through this this spot of realizing that he completely lost his shit and lost himself and he was refining himself and all this other stuff, going into dealing with John Moxley and the Death Riders and everything like that. It's funny, because like the first half of everything I can agree with, but then like when you but like him having to deal with the Death Riders in that particular bit, I'm like, eh.

SPEAKER_01: 1:37:12

If they would have done the John C and a hill turn properly, with giving us a reason why he sold his soul, that could have been a good run.

SPEAKER_03: 1:37:23

That should, that would have that would have been that would have been it. That would have been that would have been my obtainment. But you fucked it up.

SPEAKER_01: 1:37:32

So WLB honestly would have been promotion of the year if they would have done that shit straight.

SPEAKER_03: 1:37:37

I mean, if they would have just not been stupid with the John Cena bit, then then yes. So overall, there's a part of me that's like I I don't want to give that whole thing. I don't want to give storyline of the year to Adam Page in his redemption arc, but the problem is is the fact that when you kind of look at the landscape, that nothing was really given to us better.

SPEAKER_01: 1:38:10

The Edge and Christian one wasn't, it was good, but it wasn't story of the year.

SPEAKER_03: 1:38:15

No, the no I honestly the only other thing that I feel almost gets there, and the only problem is just the fact like it did not go super long, but I would say uh EOSky and Rhea Ripley and their rivalry.

SPEAKER_01: 1:38:38

No, honestly, Jade and fucking um Naomi Naomi, if they if she didn't get pregnant, not not saying it's a bad thing, but if she didn't have to relinquish that title, she would have been on a fucking tear.

SPEAKER_03: 1:38:57

Alright. Now that I can I can I can agree with on because honestly, when you really think about that, because that's that was the most compelling shit that was going on, bro. It was with uh Naomi and Bianca and all them together.

SPEAKER_01: 1:39:14

Damn, big Jim Shit, bro! Come on, bro. Did she did she win the belt? No, because she got pregnant. No, she won the belt. No, no, no. I'm trying to think when when could he have busted in her to to get her to pregnant enough?

SPEAKER_03: 1:39:31

Right before she cashed in.

SPEAKER_01: 1:39:34

Hey man, come on. Did you just know she was cashing in? It's like, yo, we're gonna celebrate.

SPEAKER_03: 1:39:40

They literally found out the fact when they looked at the time frame, like she was technically pregnant. During that match? With yeah, during that match. But um, congratulations, but damn, bro. But yeah, so it's like, which honestly, over the hangman Adam Page art. There, redemption arc? Uh almost. I uh honestly, it I don't know if it's better. It kind of is.

SPEAKER_01: 1:40:08

Oh, wait, did CM Punk the CM Punk and uh Drew stuff?

SPEAKER_03: 1:40:14

Uh actually, now when you say that, which I think, because you saying that just rung my bell as to what I would have said, and that is CM Punk and uh you could say the CM Punk and Drew McIntyre. You could say Seth Rollins versus CM Punk. Yo, that, yeah, that too. Like, but they just didn't cook long enough. Well, kind of. It's been it the CM Punk and uh Seth Rollins thing has been like a it's been consistent going on. Yeah. And I Biden, I think that the Drew Matt Because the Drew McIntyre and uh CM Punk thing, that happened like beginning of the year, yeah, mostly. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 1:41:01

I mean they did have good matches. I really feel like granted the matches were good, the promos for CM Punk and them were good. It's really that Hangman promo.

SPEAKER_03: 1:41:14

Which is fair.

SPEAKER_01: 1:41:15

It's really that promo. It really is it's like, all right, man, you know when you get on a roller coaster ride, they strap you the fuck in. What that I'm ready for the ride.

SPEAKER_03: 1:41:27

Which I will say, like the the because once again, it like though they did not say promo of like promo of the year. Which did they have a promo of the year? Well, so they had a who I guess they they they can they they crowned who was who gave like I guess you would say was the best promo just overall overall, not like the specific promo. That'd be MJL. Oh, we'll get to that in a second.

SPEAKER_01: 1:41:51

Oh nigga, you about to piss me off then.

SPEAKER_03: 1:41:54

So, but like like for that one moment, I would say yes, but honestly, I think because I for some reason I was forgetting, and I was sitting here trying to remember like who was it that I would have picked, but like I would have given it to like Seth Rollins and CM Punk because their whole thing, because their thing has been throughout the year. Hell, it's technically still going on, just Seth Rollins is hurt type situation. But Seth Rollins on his whole bit of like, yeah, nah, CM Punk, yeah. As long as I'm around, I'll I'm gonna make sure you don't get this back.

SPEAKER_01: 1:42:25

The thing about it is too, because when he comes back, he has to come back as a baby face to go against the vision. So it's gonna fuck up anything CM Punk related. Maybe. I mean he can't come back as a heel going against the vision.

SPEAKER_03: 1:42:40

That is if the vision is still going to be around when he comes back, which, if that's the case, there could you could just say that he's probably gonna come back to take on, like maybe like Braun Breaker, because Braun Breaker was the one who started it.

SPEAKER_01: 1:42:54

Yeah, but he's still gonna have to go after Paul Heyman and all them. So like it's just like unless you have okay, literally raw on SmackDown. Like CM Punk is on SmackDown, he's on Raw, or you do a situation like hanging. I mean, there's still a swerve where it's like, hey, I still don't fucking like you. We gonna we're gonna finish this, but I gotta do this first.

SPEAKER_03: 1:43:15

Now it very now it very well might actually just be that where if he does come back, he's going to take out the vision and handle the vision first before he starts looking at anybody else, kind of thing. Because then once he gets that the way, then he can address the CM Punk situation. But at this point, I feel like CM Punk is no longer a big deal because of the betrayal that he went through. But like, I think I would give that to CM Punk versus Seth, CM Punk and Seth Rollins' little situation. But it's like it's a tough one. It is tough, and it's mostly tough because WWE has been lacking on their job this year.

SPEAKER_04: 1:43:59

Yep.

SPEAKER_03: 1:43:59

So that goes into the rivalry of the year, which for some reason they gave to Hangman Adam Page and John Moxley. Bitch. And I'm like, rivalry of the year? If we did not want to give EO Skye and Rhea Ripley, you know, the storyline, definitely, I think they're in that running for rivalry. They could have been if they would have saved it for mania.

SPEAKER_01: 1:44:37

Maybe. Like I feel like I feel like now because they're such best friends, like a mania matches.

SPEAKER_03: 1:44:44

Yes, they there was that. And but it's like they they they've gone from rivals to friends right now, kind of thing. But it's like initially would have to turn heel where that's been going, where where that was at initially, I feel like, yeah, no, that right there was because then you could also go into the idea of saying about uh um uh uh who was it? Oh man. Who was it was at the tip of my tongue? No, it and WWE, uh, as far as like rivalries go, um for some reason they're slipping my brain right now. Is it Gunther? No, no. Gunther has not had anything very rivalry of the year related in my in my eyes.

SPEAKER_01: 1:45:31

Unless you're talking about Naomi.

SPEAKER_03: 1:45:33

Actually, yes, it is Naomi. Naomi and uh Jay? Like Naomi and Jay. As as far as a rivalry was pretty good.

SPEAKER_01: 1:45:43

Uh the Charlotte and Tiffany one could have been good if they would have kept going with it, but like Yeah, they kind of screwed that one. They kind of really fucked that. I think that was just the bitterness between two women not really liking each other. But like, y'all could have pulled a uh a mat and edge and said, hey, we can do business, bro.

SPEAKER_03: 1:46:00

100%. Yeah. Like, we can make really good business, like very, very much so. Like, I feel even in AEW, as far as like rivalries go, like Adam Page and John Moxley, like, I feel like when they say that, they're only just looking at the belt situation, the belt, exactly. Because really, I would say, um, as far as going up against John Moxley, and because John Moxley is such a mixed bag because of how many people he's been messing with, but it's like I would have given it to Darby Allen over Hangman for rivalry, kind of thing.

SPEAKER_01: 1:46:48

Darby Allen versus John Moxley. Uh my face just went crazy for that one. I was like, I'm like Yes, sir. Remember that I got the password? Yeah, yeah. That's literally how I felt my day. Um next one. I I can't I can't with that because I'm like I don't know, bro.

SPEAKER_03: 1:47:18

So after rivalry of the year. So and I and there's been a lot of controversy online about this, okay? Because there's a difference between a heel run and a heel turn. The heel turn is the initial, hey, I was good, now I'm bad. The heel run is what did you do while you were bad? He'll turn of the year. They gave it to Naomi.

SPEAKER_01: 1:48:07

I mean, yeah. Her heel turn technically, as I now have breaking it down, it's better than the Cena one.

SPEAKER_03: 1:48:14

Well see, that's the thing. Was donkey shit. Yes.

SPEAKER_01: 1:48:26

The turn was perfect.

SPEAKER_03: 1:48:28

But we can call Spade a spade.

SPEAKER_01: 1:48:30

His heel turn that was perfection was epic. That that shit actually had people in it. It broke the internet.

SPEAKER_03: 1:48:38

As a matter of fact, John Cena's heel turn is the reason why his heel run was garbage. Because the heel turn was so good. The heel turn was so good that they could not live up to the hype of the turn. Yeah. As where Naomi, there's nothing wrong with her heel turn when we find out the fact that she was the one who jumped Jade, and then she's all like, listen, because like because the way it was, like, first she Jade just beats her up, and we're like, why did that happen? And then she's out here and like, listen, yeah, I jumped that bitch, and she deserved it. And you gotta understand where I'm coming from. That's why. And we're like, whoa, Naomi, that's crazy. That's crazy. And she's like, listen, don't boo me. She's the one who's the like the you know, she's going all the most justifiable heel turn though. Exactly. For Cena, you never knew why. Now, granted, like it one could justify, but what she was trying to justify, that it was uh It was a little you're kind of you're kind of you're looking, you're you're a little that's that's a that's uh that's a stretch. But like John Cena's heel turn is what heel turns wish they could be.

SPEAKER_01: 1:49:56

Yes.

SPEAKER_03: 1:49:56

Okay, yes. There hasn't been anything better of a heel turn like that since Hulk Hogan. There have been people who have tried to have such an impactful heel turn, and it just has not hit the way that they want it.

SPEAKER_01: 1:50:10

Do you remember where you were at when it happened? I remember. That's how good of a heel turn it was. You remember where you remember where you were.

SPEAKER_03: 1:50:18

Naomi, her heel run after she turned. Now that was that's what John Cena wish he could. That's what John Cena wish he could have done. And she did that in a small amount of time where she completely turned shit around and then became champion. Like, but but yeah, that it's like looking on the other side, it's like you look at AEW with the way that AEW works, sometimes you don't know what a heel is or if if they're good or not. Because right now, I have no idea what John Moxley is anymore. And why and what we're there you go. He's a fighter, just like how Oba Femi's just a ruler. You know what I'm saying? Bitch, I be in the gym now doing it. Anyway, uh, what's the next one? So the way that they card it on here is best on the mic. And they gave it to Tony Storm.

SPEAKER_01: 1:51:19

Yep. Yep. Bro, the promos she was gonna make. I mean, she's not better than the CM Punk. Because CM Punk, he was like, he roasted the rock. He was like, all them fucking um uh he was like the goosebumps and shit, and whatever he's you bald ass. Like, no. CM Punk technically to me has been making some of the best promos that were like, yeah, CM Punk. Tony Storm has been making the most eye-catching promos because of like the dumb, the goofy shit that she says with it. It's not a great promo, it's just the yo, what the fuck? That's crazy.

SPEAKER_03: 1:52:03

And I think to me, that's that's exactly why she's on here. Because it's not because she's necessarily better than anybody else who you could have put in here because other people want to say John Cena, which I'm like, uh, I mean, I guess, but but it's like easily see him punk.

SPEAKER_01: 1:52:27

Let me let me let me easily see him punk as in a talker, yes. But I think because of the cinematics that Tony was also giving in her promos, too, I think that might have been wild. Like the funniest one is she pulled a Ric Flair in one of her promos where she's in the chair and she's like, and she just gets out the chair and gets in the ring, and then like she's doing stuff to to add to the cinematics to the promo sometimes, you know. When she had the promo when she's on the balcony and doing that, then the promo backstage, and it's like the theatrics behind it, and then the the stuff she says, maybe, maybe, but CM Punk, yeah, he'll come out there, he gets in the ring, he talks. He's the best talker. But I guess maybe they thought maybe promo-wise is the cinematics that's a reach. Yeah, very much.

SPEAKER_03: 1:53:21

That's that's maybe that's what they were thinking. Like, I don't want to discredit her. Like, I don't really want to discredit Tony's work in that particular regard. Because as far as the females go, like, when I think about the promos that I hear the women doing Raw, SmackDown, AEW, Dynamite, and like and all of those areas, like when I think about as far as the women's go, honestly, I think for women, Tony Storm kind of sort of does have everybody beat. Because women's wrestling has not been giving us wonderful, fantastic promos besides Naomi and Becky.

SPEAKER_01: 1:54:09

And Becky. Said it. You got it.

unknown: 1:54:13

It's on Phil.

SPEAKER_01: 1:54:14

It's a 14, my nigga. He said it, bro.

SPEAKER_03: 1:54:17

He said it.

SPEAKER_01: 1:54:18

But again, and actually, if I really had to put it, actually, Becky did better promos than Tony.

SPEAKER_03: 1:54:31

To be honest, yeah. I I can pay Fab or not, I can call Spay Spay when I see it. Becky could have easily been in this category, especially over Tony Storm. You heard that, my nigga? He said that shit in 4K, bro. You'll never live in that. And that's just going with women's. Never living that shit down. And that's just going with women. Naomi, she easily could have been thrown into this spot right here. Especially now, if we're talking about no, not even the fact of, you know, considering like how long she had her time as a heel. Because every time Naomi had something to say, she had she said that shit kind of thing. She earned her spot as why she was the top heel over everyone, kind of thing. And so it's like timeless Tony Storm, sure, I guess, but there were better options out there.

SPEAKER_01: 1:55:32

As much as I love me some Tony Storm, and I love those promos. Becky Lynch was uh killing these promos, the best he'll run of her career.

SPEAKER_03: 1:55:43

So best in ring. Will Osprey that's who they gave it to. I don't know. Will Ospreay's great. But for best in ring Javon Evans. Now, there is a spot down here for Javon that I would have probably spotted Javon Evans for, I think it was. Is there? No, I think uh bringing it as best uh okay.

SPEAKER_01: 1:56:23

It's Javon or so Javon, I would put on this next one. Javon or fucking Slater.

SPEAKER_03: 1:56:30

I would put I would argue both of them for the next one. But like best in ring? Now me personally, like I can understand why you would say Osprey to a certain degree. But overall, like, who's I think been like the best in-ring performer? Like names that come to my brain, right? Number one that kind of comes up is uh you better not say Cody. No, I wouldn't say Cody. Not Cody, Seth Rollins comes to mind. Hell, Drew McIntyre comes to mind when I think about who's been who I think is better in ring in an overall stand. Because like the problem is, and don't get me wrong, I love Osprey, but Osprey to a certain degree, he there's a small bit of one trick pony that he has to himself, kind of thing, right? He is he is the epitome of flippy shit, he is flippy shit through and through. Um, he has had some great matches, however, he's had matches that are just like extremely oversaturated and overly booked. Kyle Fletcher. Now that you can argue, but funny enough, in the next one that we have after that is what Kyle Fletcher is, which is breakout wrestler of the year.

SPEAKER_01: 1:58:12

So this one. But I'm gonna say best in ring is Kyle Fletcher. Most of the matches you talked about this year, he was in it. I agree.

SPEAKER_03: 1:58:25

That's that I can see where you're coming from with that.

SPEAKER_01: 1:58:28

Even the Will Ospreay, the first time you even introduced him was against Will Ospreay in the cage match, and you fucked with that.

SPEAKER_03: 1:58:35

To a degree, because remember, the my my primary problem with that match was the fact that they were they beat each other bloody and they spammed each other's specials on each other like a thousand times in a thousand kick outs. True, true, and that and now which good job AEW, because you kind of slowed down on that bullshit.

SPEAKER_01: 1:59:01

Okay, but also you gotta remember his matches against fucking Mark um Mark, Mark Briscoe, both of them shits.

SPEAKER_03: 1:59:09

Now no, you you're you're bringing up very valid points for for Kyle Fletcher, and to be honest, and this is mostly just because of the fact that like Will Ospreay's been gone for like half of the year, yeah. Kyle Fletcher has continuously been putting on bangers, and so I can see you wanting to put him best in ring. Yeah, Rufus. But for me, I think for me, when it came to best in ring, it's really it's it's very hard for me to pick somebody else outside of that. Cause like, I mean, for me, I'm like Like Will Ospreay, kinda. But I know there's better than what Will Ospreay is and had to offer. Hell, I feel like there's kind of sort of better that that could be offered in AEW in general. Will Osprey is fucking amazing and he's dope, but it's like I feel like I said, he's very one trick pony-ish to me. But bringing up Kyle Fletcher for that for that particular piece is a very interesting take, especially in comparison to who I also said, which was like, you know, Drew McIntyre or Seth Rollins kind of thing.

SPEAKER_01: 2:00:41

No, Drew is a good storyteller. I wouldn't say the best in-ring because a lot of his matches were like, yeah, there were matches. There weren't stuff that you would talk about or bring. You never truly had a moment where you broke down and say, Hey, yo, this match was great with Drew. He's just a great storyteller with his matches. He makes you feel in them. And that's why I wouldn't say he's the best in-ring.

SPEAKER_03: 2:01:06

But I feel as if that is a reason to be considered for best in ring. Because that with what you're saying is the exact reason why I would not put Will Ospreay there.

SPEAKER_01: 2:01:20

Okay, so you're you're going over the overall aspect of a wrestler's where you're supposed to be selling a story. Correct. And Drew was selling some of the best stories with his in-ring ability. Compared to, yes, well, Kyle Fletcher is a great in-ring competitor. What were the stories he was telling?

SPEAKER_03: 2:01:37

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01: 2:01:38

Okay.

SPEAKER_03: 2:01:38

Which is not Kyle Fletcher's fault, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_00: 2:01:42

Okay.

SPEAKER_03: 2:01:43

And so, but now going into Breakout Wrestler of the Year, they picked Kyle Fletcher. And I can understand why, because Kyle Fletcher from the beginning of the year to now did blow up.

SPEAKER_01: 2:02:00

But I even do his poll in my photos now, nigga. I'd be like, sometimes I be just hit.

SPEAKER_03: 2:02:08

Bro, but compared to Javon Evans. Or Slater. Or Slater. I don't know if Kyle holds up, bro.

SPEAKER_01: 2:02:19

I don't think he holds up. I think that I think it will change for 2020. They planted the C for Javon and Slater. And 2026 is when you will see them glow the fuck up.

SPEAKER_03: 2:02:34

I agree. As a matter of fact, I'm over here. I don't think it'll happen, but man, I really want him to win that match against Oba Fendi, bro. God damn it. I want I want that shit, bro. So comeback performer of the year.

SPEAKER_01: 2:02:48

Are we talking about like a person who got injured and came back?

SPEAKER_03: 2:02:50

Yes. Which is an interesting spot to have. But they gave it to Iliad Dragonoff. Nigga, he came at the end of the year. And that's why this, when I look at this, I'm like, who's picking these?

SPEAKER_01: 2:03:12

Everybody hates the H-Bomb right now. Like, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_03: 2:03:15

Which is crazy to me because I don't know why.

SPEAKER_01: 2:03:18

Man, a lot of people are saying the H-Bomb is just it makes wrestlers look goofy because how you be punching each other in a match, and then suddenly your finisher is a punch in the face. And I'm like, and I'm I love this one comment. It says, you know, it sounds like from a person who's never been knocked the fuck out before. I immediately think of that one guy who gave that comment. So this coming from a nigga who's probably never been knocked out before.

SPEAKER_03: 2:03:43

That's exactly where listen. Most people who comment and make stuff make comments like that about what people are doing in the ring are people who have never been in a ring before. Absolutely. And as someone who has been in the ring, you take an H-bomb. I have not taken an H bomb, but I've been hit in the face before, too.

SPEAKER_01: 2:04:05

So I'm trying to think if there's the best comeback. Because to me, honestly, a comeback has to happen at the beginning of the year, and you have to do good shit throughout the rest of the year. So I don't feel like it necessarily has to be at the beginning of the year. Like you can't be like at the end of the year, like dragon off.

SPEAKER_03: 2:04:24

No, I can kind of agree with you on that piece. Well, that it don't even have to be at the end of the year. I feel as if like if they came back, they have to have come back and been there for a good amount of time to really show what they've done. And when you look at when this article was done, or when this article was made, which I actually I don't know if I have the actual uh date. Let me see if I do. Um because I know that the it was this article came out this month, but it's like but I feel like when you look at how long he has been here, because he has not, he's barely been here for like he's barely been here two months. Okay. And so it's like it's weird that that's what they gave, but I almost feel as if he almost won. There's a part of me that's like, did he just win this by default? Man, fuck that.

SPEAKER_01: 2:05:17

Chelsea Green, nigga. Chelsea Green has the best comeback. Think about it, bro. She won the U.S. title and then won the mixed tag titles with Ethan Page, and they're on the fucking tear.

SPEAKER_03: 2:05:29

But she was never gone. That's the thing. She lost the belt, though.

SPEAKER_01: 2:05:35

Yeah, sure. She lost the belt. If we're talking about being injured, are we talking about specifically being injured and coming back or making a comeback as in like you were for the bottom and now you're up?

SPEAKER_03: 2:05:45

No, like you were on the roster, and then something has caused you to disappear, and then you showed back up again. So, not saying that I would consider him this for for this, but like, like, like a Brock Lesnar, right? He's been gone for a while. He wasn't injured, though. No, he wasn't injured, but he was gone. Okay, I mean like you being gone, okay, okay. Someone who's been gone and has come back and has done something big. And the problem is, and I think the reason why Iliad wins this is because the fact that anyone who was gone, they've come back and they've done nothing.

SPEAKER_01: 2:06:18

Or they came back super quick, like our truth.

SPEAKER_03: 2:06:23

I mean, yeah, you could say that, but well, even then, like like even when like R Truth was gone, he came back, he didn't really do anything like super noteworthy. And then when they dropped him and then they hired him back, he still didn't do anything noteworthy. And over on AEW, people come and go so much, it's really hard to say even Darby. And the thing is, Darby, he was gone for a bit, and he came back and he did nothing but take a big fat L.

SPEAKER_01: 2:06:54

Yeah, move on, move on. That one, that one, that one, that one's difficult, my nigga.

SPEAKER_03: 2:06:59

So, and this is this is the part where a lot of people feel like they were definitely dick riding AEW. Tag team of the year. They gave it to FTR.

SPEAKER_01: 2:07:10

Not even Bandito, my nigga. Listen, that was now granted. That's tag team, well, to me, AEW tag team of the year.

SPEAKER_03: 2:07:19

I then who else would you say tag team of the year?

SPEAKER_01: 2:07:27

We're talking about AW RA. Give me a second, give me a second, give me a second to cook. Give me a second cook. Give me a second to cook. Give me a second to cook. Um oh, wow. Because in all reality, it's the Hardeys if you think about it. Because nigga, they've been champions forever.

SPEAKER_03: 2:07:45

Now, I can accept that argument because when you look at the year that the Hardee's have had, nigga, they've been they've been TNA champions, they've been NXT champions. And they're also the HOG, um, the House of Glory. What's the House of Glory? House of Glory, I think it is. Yeah, they're they're still the whole they still hold those titles. The Hardys have been having a banger of a year, but we ain't talking about TNA on here, kind of thing. It's like that no one wants to talk about TNA. As a matter of fact, in my personal opinion, I feel TNA should get promotion of the year because of the fact of how much they've how much they have grown in a year to be now going from not having a TV spot to now having a TV spot coming up next year on AE.

SPEAKER_01: 2:08:37

That's because of WWE, but yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 2:08:39

Um even if you want to say it's because of WWE, they are still putting in some kind of work, they are still putting a spotlight on their stars because they've been getting a bit of stuff, you know, from WWE and on their on TNA. Like they their stars. Javon Evans, not Javon Evans, uh freaking um Slater. Like he snuck his way as a TNA champion on main event for John Cena's last match. A TNA champion. Sure, he may not have won, but he showed face and he did some work kind of thing. And so it's like TNA went from being nothing in obscurity to now becoming re becoming a household name again.

SPEAKER_01: 2:09:35

I'm thinking about Jordan Grace, but she got shit into the stick of that shit. That bitch ain't doing nothing right now, anyway.

SPEAKER_03: 2:09:41

Um But yes, Jeff Hardy, the Hardy Boys over FTR, easy.

SPEAKER_01: 2:09:47

Yeah, I fucking can't stand it. Bro, Dino. I cannot stand it. Easy. I cannot stand.

SPEAKER_03: 2:09:52

FTR is not a bad tag team. But they are not tag team of the year, at least this year. I probably would have gave it to him. I could have gave it to them last year.

SPEAKER_01: 2:10:01

I can't stand them as a tag team, though. They're just not not to me, like, yeah, they're your good old-fashioned tag team, but like one of their theme song does not fit their heelish persona. Yeah, their theme song is weird. It's it's very 80s, and it's just like, oh, happy and we're gonna do all this heel ass shit. It's no, it's just we're we're the top guys. Like, that's your thing. Like, no, it's uh no, match of the year.

SPEAKER_03: 2:10:28

Now, this one can go a lot of different ways. And I'm not mad with the way that they picked. They picked, because they picked EO Sky versus Rhea Ripley versus Bianca.

SPEAKER_01: 2:10:43

Oh, Mania?

SPEAKER_03: 2:10:45

Yeah. That was a legit one, ain't it? Ooh. Yeah, that's cold blooded. Uh yeah, yeah. Um, because the second to that could easily be just the one with Eosky and Rhea Ripley. That matchup.

SPEAKER_01: 2:11:00

I mean, all reality, I'm gonna I'm gonna keep it above 50 with you. The one that had me on my seat this year. Javon versus Slayer. Even though that even though the ending was ass, but I mean Bro, that could have been I can agree with that too.

SPEAKER_03: 2:11:17

Honestly, that like that shit had me on my seat, my name. Those those three that were spoken, Eosky, Rhea Ripley, Bianca, those two boys, and then just the Eo Sky and Rhea Ripley one. Those are in the top three. I myself don't know if I can pick one specifically. There's a part of me that wants to pick the Javon Evans and and and Slater.

SPEAKER_01: 2:11:43

That shit was crazy.

SPEAKER_03: 2:11:45

But at the same time, I feel it's the ending that really fucked it over. Yeah, the ending does kind of hurt it a bit because of the fact because we didn't actually get a real ending. Yeah. Twice. Yeah. But like that match of the year one, it's it's uh it is it's a tough pick.

SPEAKER_01: 2:12:05

I even want to say not the CM Punk versus Drew Cage match. Nah, that was a good one though, but not match of the year. Um worth mentioning though. Yeah, definitely worth mentioning.

SPEAKER_03: 2:12:19

So then they have show of the year, pay-per-view of the year. Their pay-per-view of the year they chose was AEW's double or nothing.

SPEAKER_01: 2:12:31

Isn't that when Hangman won the belt? Yes. That's why. Alright, move on. Move on. Because I can't think of a pay-per-view of the year, even from WWE's too. Evolution. That was a pay-per-view of the year for you? Easily.

SPEAKER_03: 2:12:49

The all women's pay-per-view. It was a damn good one. The only other pay-per-view that I would say that also fits in that upper echelon is Elimination Chamber.

SPEAKER_01: 2:13:04

Because of the heel turn.

SPEAKER_03: 2:13:05

Not just because of the heel turn. Elimination Chamber in general was a good pay-per-view. Like there was not many matches that weren't solid. For AEW, it's it's it's it's a rough shot.

SPEAKER_01: 2:13:23

Again, we've always talked about shit sandwiches with bacon in them.

SPEAKER_03: 2:13:27

Every once in a while, they'll have a really good pay-per-view. But nothing, but it's not by home, but it's not by much. And so the fact that it's like I think double or nothing for me was like one of their one of their lowest ones, to be honest.

SPEAKER_01: 2:13:41

I'm trying to think that, bro. So even like the NXT ones.

SPEAKER_03: 2:13:48

Listen, the NXT ones, there's been a couple of them that beat out AEW. Yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_01: 2:13:53

But uh, so then female of the I need to watch New Japan all next year so I can be able to say their pay-per-views too.

SPEAKER_03: 2:14:01

Female Wrestler of the Year. Obviously, they gave the two Ultimo Monet. Yeah. Which I don't think she really is. She is she is not female wrestler of the year.

SPEAKER_01: 2:14:12

And it's unfortunate because it definitely wouldn't went to Naomi if you know. I can see that.

SPEAKER_03: 2:14:19

I and a lot of people agree that female wrestler of the year is EOS guy.

SPEAKER_01: 2:14:29

Like he's like, my nigga, that's that's a cool taunt, bro. I'm sorry. That taunt is so cool. I don't give a fuck. Like and the fact that the crowd actually has the the face, like, yeah, that that's yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 2:14:43

Yeah, easily Mercedes. They're just they was just digging. I a lot of people, I don't get, I don't get it.

SPEAKER_01: 2:14:53

We talk about it every time. We do not get it. What do you see in Monet? Her matches are not good, they're not, they are not good. It's the opponent that makes it good. It's literally the equivalent of when uh uh uh a Bret Hart had to walk British Bulldogs through a fucking match because he was drunk and it became a five-star match. That is what it is every time. That's pretty harsh, but uh I mean, can you except the only one match was the Chris Statlander one? That was Sasha Banks.

SPEAKER_03: 2:15:27

I mean, that's no, no, you're not wrong on that piece. And no, she is not as great as everyone's really trying to make her seem. I don't know if she's bridged, drunk bridge bulldog bad.

SPEAKER_01: 2:15:40

I'm not talking about like she's that. I'm just talking about the equivalent of their opponent guiding through the match to make it good.

SPEAKER_03: 2:15:49

No, well, yeah, I I I see where you're going. Yeah. But I think that was pretty harsh. No, nigga.

SPEAKER_01: 2:15:57

That was no, I'm I'm standing, I'm standing 10 toes because I could not stand any of her matches. Because every time I'm like, Amone, I know you can do better. I know you can. I've seen you in WWE, I've seen the amazing matches you've had with Bailey and Charlotte and so many more. But ever since you got this new finisher where you want to put some on the back and it no, it don't, it's not good. Do something else. You have so many other movies, dude, do the bankrupt like that. Do something. Something better. So if I say EOS.

SPEAKER_03: 2:16:38

Yeah, she was. I remember saying about that. If I if I say EO Sky takes that space, can you think of better than EO Sky for a female wrestler of the year?

SPEAKER_01: 2:16:50

Natty.

SPEAKER_03: 2:16:52

Weird flex, but okay.

SPEAKER_01: 2:16:54

Because if you see her work in GCW, boy, that girl was going. Fair enough, fair enough. That's what I'm saying. It's like one of those situations where again, you're not taking in consideration of every promotion, and we're not even talking about stardom. Because stardom, I know they're doing some crazy shit over there, and I'm trying to find out how I can watch stardom because uh somebody had posted a video of like the best entrance of the year, and I was like, I don't know about that one, but it was definitely some top-notch shit, and made me say, Oh, these bitches getting down over here. How stardom? I want to watch this match. I want to watch this just because I saw like the entrance itself, and I was like, ooh, I'm getting goosebumps, and then I see the opponent in the ring. It looked like a very yin and yang situation, angel versus devil. And I'm like, oh, what's this match? I want to watch this. So, yeah, you know, I don't think they take consideration every promotion.

SPEAKER_03: 2:17:52

I mean, obviously they didn't. Yeah, because then because they didn't bring it even within the promotions that they were talking about, they didn't bring up the promotions that are related. Nope. And so it's like, and so I don't know. Now I'm curious about this. Why why you uh you're you're uh bringing Natalia up. I mean, like I said, I like her GCW work.

SPEAKER_01: 2:18:15

I really like her.

SPEAKER_03: 2:18:16

I've seen bits and pieces of you know this the low-key legend as she goes by kind of thing.

SPEAKER_01: 2:18:22

It's a gimmick. I'm like, I I've never again I've never liked Natalia. Never like Natalia, but I fucking love Natty. Yes, fucking love natty. It's like Kurt Angle with the mouth, like it's literally that all over again, almost it feels like it. Got it, got it. It's that feeling, bruh. I don't know what them perks, bro. So perks, my nigga.

SPEAKER_03: 2:18:47

Anyway, so if we're looking at natty slash eel for female wrestler of the year, male wrestler of the year. They said hangman Adam Page.

SPEAKER_01: 2:18:58

Go to bed, nigga. You tired. All right, you tired, you sleepy. All right, I don't know what you're watching, my nigga, but it definitely ain't hangman. Look at the camera, look at me. It was not hangman, okay? Ricochet did better than that nigga. I'm saying.

SPEAKER_03: 2:19:17

I mean, honestly.

SPEAKER_01: 2:19:22

I uh wrestler of the year, right? Wrestling male wrestle wrestler of the year. Did better than that nigga. Braun Strowman. I'm standing on that one. Stroman. Give me, give me better, give me a person who sold you better than Braun Strowman. Not um uh uh not Braun Strowman. Um Braun Braun Breaker. Fuck Breed? Breed, Bronson Reed, excuse me, not Braun Straw, Bronson Reed.

SPEAKER_03: 2:19:58

Funny enough, because you were saying. I was like, I was about to say like Braun Strowman. I meant Bron.

SPEAKER_01: 2:20:03

Bro, Brunson Reed was the one who put Braun Strowman down. That's why I meant Bronser Reed. Yeah, sorry. I was thinking of their match, and then his name popped up first. Which smack's you in the brain. No, that no, with that, which Bronser Reed, my nigga. The tsunami is the most protected move. You know wrestling.

SPEAKER_03: 2:20:20

You saying that, that almost makes me actually want to go back because I wait, was that this year, though? What was it? No. What are you talking about? When Brunson Reed did all those splashes on uh uh TM Punk? On uh no, on uh on Seth Rollins.

SPEAKER_01: 2:20:37

Yeah, that was this year.

SPEAKER_03: 2:20:38

That was this year.

SPEAKER_01: 2:20:38

Yeah, because remember, after he did that, he ended up initiating him into the fucking vision. I was making sure that that was this year. Yeah, because it was because again, I would told you it was a very uh smart strategic um uh thing to do is like, hey, I can't beat this nigga's ass. Nigga, you wanna have to run with me, bro.

SPEAKER_03: 2:20:55

And actually, you because what I'm trying because what I was going to say is the fact that Brunson Reed, he actually fits into the mold of when we talk about uh comeback performer of the year. Oh, yeah, he did get in the year because he was injured for me. Actually, because he broke his leg in the war games match in the war games match. Yeah, so really honest and true. And this is why I'm like, they did whoever did this, they only watched bits and pieces of wrestling this year. Yeah, dick riding ass motherfucker. Yeah. And that was the thing I was wanting to get a get across when it came to this.

SPEAKER_01: 2:21:36

Because it's like definitely Bronson Reed, wrestler of the year. I don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck.

SPEAKER_03: 2:21:43

I mean, you're not gonna you're not gonna get an argument out of me when it comes to Brunson Reed. Now, granted, someone may would want to like put in, like, I mean, honestly, Seth Rollins over Hangman. Um freaking. Respect the tribal thief. Uh yes, respect the tribal thief. Because yeah, I would easily put him over hangman. Hell, I would put Braun over Hangman. When you look at Braun Breaker, yeah. When you look at even Braun Breaker, yeah. When you look at Braun Breaker in the year that he's had, and it's like, there's so many people I would put over Hangman for this year, freaking Sami Zayn over Braun over Hangman out of pace. Even LA Knight. Bro, listen. Yeah. And so then we go back to the whole promotion of the year type situation. Now, to make it quick, my take on AEW or AEW being considered the promotion of the year, I would say it's like you could say they're promotion of the year, but when you really look at the books and you analyze and you look at who's watching what and everything like that, it is very, very well apparent and known that AEW is on a they're on a decline. People are not watching AEW anymore. And it's like when you think about the fact of like they went from last year always being in stadiums to now they're in concert halls. They went from having at least 10,000 plus people every night in a stadium to now having under 800 people at a time, sometimes or like like right now, they're in like the Hammerstein Ballroom. They're only holding like maybe 2,000 people in that building at uh at a given time. And it's like, and they're having these stays where they're gonna be there for like like three weeks at a time, as opposed to traveling around to other places. And it's like, how do you look at those kind of statistics and think they are promotion of the year?

SPEAKER_01: 2:24:03

They weren't looking at numbers, they were looking at the product and the pay-per-views and the matches and shit like that. Not the story, like, yo, who gave some of the the best wrestling matches of the year?

SPEAKER_03: 2:24:16

And I think that is the reason why we have this Dave Melzer did this shit. You would think, right? This is the ride we got this very bogus superstar illustrated pro wrestling award. Because, in my personal opinion, I'll easily say that TNA is promotion of the year.

SPEAKER_01: 2:24:37

I will have to agree.

SPEAKER_03: 2:24:38

They are absolutely most improved. They are and regardless if you want to say, because like you could say that AEW uh that WWE helped TNA, but that's the same reason why you could say AE uh AEW tried to help R O H R R H ROH, or I was gonna say New Japan kind of thing. But it's like sometimes like I also feel that sometimes New Japan is trying to help AEW, but it's like they're doing that thing, and it's like granted, we're working on getting more educated on New Japan, but it's like you see how New Japan's not actually included in this thing here.

SPEAKER_01: 2:25:18

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. New Japan has to definitely there's a definite change that has to happen because when the ace is gone in January, nigga, it's it's literally getting a new video game with none of the people you've been playing it with forever. Like all the people you've been watching, fucking uh uh Nido is not even there. Uh no, none of the people from the early 2000s are there anymore now. They're gone. Okay, Kimmy's gone, Okada's gone, like Will Ospreay is gone, which they still have Will Ospreay in the United Kingdom fucking uh uh uh video. And I forgot what's the name for Monster Sauce was like, I didn't take him off, bro. It's like like Saw the Wound, my nigga. Like, you're gonna take him off now. I'm like, damn.

SPEAKER_03: 2:26:04

There is there is that goddamn now. The last piece on here, which the last one? Yes, the last one that's on here, they said the legacy award, the two the 2025 legacy award. Fuck is this for? Like, is it so let me see if I could actually pull up the original thing because I'm like, I look at it, it says I look at Legacy Award, and they awarded this to John Cena.

SPEAKER_01: 2:26:31

As in like his legacy is, you know, tw 23 years. He could have made it to 25, but you know, um, 23 years of what he has done for the industry. I could see why they did that. But at the same time, who would you have gave it to?

SPEAKER_03: 2:26:48

So considering what it's called, I there's really there's not too much one that could do it could really get. Who in 2026 could get the legacy award? Let me see some here. Let me see if they like do they how they explain the the legacy award. Professional Pronation of the Year, da da da da da. The Legacy Award. What's left to say about John Cena has been right? Greatest of all time. So I'm guessing, because they didn't really like describe what the legacy award is.

SPEAKER_01: 2:27:26

They're simply just giving John Cena an award for one last time. I don't think that's probably gonna be on there for 2026. Which would be which, if that's the case, like, wow, that that's what we're really doing. Because it's like, who else in 2026 who is gonna have a legacy to leave with? Like, I mean, Kanahashi. I mean, technically. Because he will be ending in 2026.

SPEAKER_03: 2:27:50

No, that makes sense. I can't I couldn't even say this shit with a straight face. But what about Goldberg? And you say I say wild shit. That's why I'm like I I I can't I can't say the straight face. What about Goldberg? Fuck that nigga.

SPEAKER_01: 2:28:13

He ended Bret Hart's career. I don't give a fuck about that shit. Nah.

SPEAKER_03: 2:28:19

Brett will definitely talk about that. Listen, we nah Brett Hart should be the one that gives the let get the legacy award, man. With the with the shit that he's been saying all year this year. Wow. Listen, I can't. This whole year, Bret Hart's been just saying shit under his breath and posting his mind. And it's like, damn, Brett, that's so crazy for you to be this old and being so bitter for no reason.

SPEAKER_01: 2:28:43

He likes an old nigga.

SPEAKER_03: 2:28:45

Honestly. He like an old nigga, bro. Bret Hart is is the listen, he's my dad used to be that nigga.

SPEAKER_01: 2:28:53

But uh fucking motherfucker.

SPEAKER_03: 2:28:55

But Bret Hart out here, the biggest hater in the game. And the thing is, at this point, we just listen to what Bret Hart say. Like, you know what, Bret Hart, you damn right, bro. He done seen our old nigga in the final thoughts about nigga. Nah, fam. Freaking. All I can say is after hearing that and all this other stuff, I'm hoping, because this is the because now I'm thinking about it. This is the last podcast of this year. Yeah. So oh shit.

SPEAKER_01: 2:29:33

So okay, how about this? We can we can end it off with how have you felt about doing this podcast? For I would say we were on episode 43.

SPEAKER_03: 2:29:44

So Which we're almost at it, which is we can think about that, almost at 52 to make it a full year. Because there's 52 weeks in a year, and we do a podcast every week. So it's like uh this has been fun.

SPEAKER_01: 2:29:57

It's been we'll be starting like in March, I think, right?

SPEAKER_03: 2:30:00

Yeah, because we literally start we we literally start doing the podcast leading up to WrestleMania. Yeah, and so once that WrestleMania time comes through, that's gonna be that anniversary time. And honestly, it's been it's been it has been a blast and a fun journey. And I really would say it's been a fun, it's been a blast and a fun journey because it has interestingly like made me actually comprehend how I watch wrestling and how wrestling sticks to me and like where I'm at when it comes to wrestling, kind of thing. And it's crazy because I feel as if it's also brought me closer to wrestling, which then has also been like, man, wrestling really sucks right now. Like, it's almost like one of those things like, man, could you imagine if we would have started doing this podcast earlier? Like, if we would have done this podcast like starting, like starting at the time we did last year, with how last year was such a banger of 2024 was some peak wrestling. Not for AEW, but it was peak it was some peak wrestling at the time.

SPEAKER_01: 2:31:17

Um bloodline shit?

SPEAKER_03: 2:31:18

Well, because 2024 was was after the after Cody killed the bloodline. Yeah and then you know Solo was trying to do his whole deal kind of thing. And there were there was just a lot of fun story, a lot of good stuff going in there. And even if we we were like now about 2023, 2023 would have been really peak. But like just but like going back to with like how this year and like doing the podcast, it's been it's been a blast. And it has easily gotten me like even more into wrestling than I already have been. And I feel as if I consume so much more wrestling because of the podcast, but it's at the end of the day, it's fun. And that's all I can ask for.

SPEAKER_01: 2:32:07

It's fun because I get to spend time with my brother. No, like real shit. I mean, like there's times where we chat, but like we we haven't like hung out like we used to. Like, remember back in the day, every Wednesday, we get hungry, always pizza, we make music, and we just like we chill. But like now it's Sundays, and we'll sit here, we bullshit about wrestling.

SPEAKER_03: 2:32:28

You know what? That is actually a big point because prior to doing this, like, once again, we've been boys since the fourth grade. Yeah. Therefore, there is very there isn't anything that would break only death will break the bond that we have. May we, may we live forever.

SPEAKER_01: 2:32:48

Bitches try to do that, but no, that that didn't work.

SPEAKER_03: 2:32:50

Yes, no, no, no, not that not nothing's going to break that. And there's and the fact that now we have found something that we can continue to do as the squad that we are, yeah, has been very fun. Yes. And it's uh, and uh, and it shall continue. Yes, and and hopefully, especially with coming next year, where it's only gonna get better.

SPEAKER_01: 2:33:15

Yes. We can bring some other people in. I'm gonna be looking forward to getting another camera to stop doing on the cellular device and up the production a bit. Like that's we're gonna get big. We're gonna get big, we're gonna get new guests on here. I think that I think this is a good foundation of us trying to find ourselves as podcasters and talking because we actually we had two technically two guests this entire year. You only had Story and we had um um Curtis. Well, we also had Alex. Well, yeah, yeah, but he's technically part of the squad.

SPEAKER_03: 2:33:48

Yeah, I also kind of but it's funny because like I also feel that Story is more so part of the squad as well. Well, now but like but I but you are right with how you say, and so I feel like once we like getting more, once we get like some more, like once we soon we'll get the guests coming through, but I think that like at this point we've kind of sort of finally found like what's the groove? What's the way that we wanna wanna do because we've tried a couple of different things, did some stuff, stopped doing certain things and everything.

SPEAKER_01: 2:34:20

Yeah, like the uh uh uh uh Barry, uh uh push the the game, BB uh push oh the the BBC game?

SPEAKER_03: 2:34:29

Yeah. No, it's probably BBB. Book Bump Barry. There you go. Book Bump Barry. Listen, Book Bump Barry and the occasional cut.

SPEAKER_01: 2:34:40

Like yeah, it's that's shit like that. So I would say at the end of the end of the year, it's been fun because it's got me back in into editing. Granted, my my schedule hasn't been that great for editing. It it's given me some creativity in outside of just my normal, you know, my oil business I've been working on and just working. So um and it's fun content. Yes, it's fun.

SPEAKER_03: 2:35:09

It is fun content to make and and even and and a lot of people have been getting behind it.

SPEAKER_01: 2:35:14

And so, yeah, yeah, yeah. So uh if we can get to go to some cons in the future, and I I think it the main conversation I told you when I'm originally started was like, man, I'm tired of talking about wrestling for free. Motherfucker, I I mean, shit, let me get monetized in some way, shape, or form. We've been doing this for years. Well, we'll sit here, we'll talk about wrestling via message, and then like there's niggas that be doing it, and it's they have they they talk about nothing. They're they're not like true wrestling fans. I'm like, man, fuck that shit. But we can do this and make some money, you know. If not anything, for the love of the game, because we already talk about wrestling anyway.

SPEAKER_03: 2:35:53

So why not share it with other people?

SPEAKER_01: 2:35:55

Exactly.

SPEAKER_03: 2:35:56

So it's been it's been chill, it's been fun, yes, and it's gonna continue.

SPEAKER_01: 2:36:01

Yes, and that's why, as always, the ring is sacred, the questions are real, but the destruction guaranteed. So, guys, it's the Masaku.

SPEAKER_03: 2:36:13

It's your boy Swag Switcher in the building.

SPEAKER_01: 2:36:16

Happy New Year's, happy holidays. See you guys next year with a new episode.

SPEAKER_03: 2:36:22

Yes, sir. Next year, let's need it.