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Itsthemazoku and SwagSwitcha Season 1 Episode 49

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The week after a blockbuster Royal Rumble should light a fire under every storyline. Instead, we walked out of a packed watch party into a quiet wrestling landscape great moments here and there, but not enough consequence to keep the pulse racing. We dig into why the women’s Rumble felt flexible and exciting while the men’s leaned safe, how that choice flattened momentum, and what it says about the current state of booking across WWE, AEW, and TNA.

We break down the “how to” of making stars the right way: put rising talent next to made champions, let them hang in credible losses, and build stakes that carry to the next show. From SmackDown’s subtle elevation plays to the missed chance for immediate post-Rumble get-backs, we trace exactly where heat could have been and wasn’t. On the AEW side, we call out the eliminator treadmill, alignment whiplash within the same night, and the gap between striking visuals and durable stories. Star rubs matter, but logic matters more when you want fans to stay invested past the finish.

TNA’s No Surrender card gets a hard look too. On paper, surrounding a champion with multiple live-cash threats is spicy; without weeks of setup, it reads like short-term chaos instead of real danger. And we go deep on Oba Femi’s monster push: why nonstop squashes risk painting him into a corner, what kinds of opponents and grudges keep a giant’s aura intact, and how a single clear story could turn dominance into must-watch TV.

It wasn’t all bleak Cody’s mic work snapped, a couple of performances raised ceilings, and scattered moments reminded us how hot this winter stretch can be when promotions connect the dots. If you’ve been feeling the same friction strong matches, weak stakes this one’s for you. Hit play, then tell us what you’d fix first. If you’re rocking with the pod, subscribe, drop a review, and share with a friend who never misses a main event.

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SPEAKER_01:

Welcome to another episode of the Big Brothers of Destruction podcast. It's your host who likes to post the Monsaku. And it's your boy, Swag Switcher in the building. And man, the Royal Rumble. It's been a week since the Royal Rumble, and I have to say this straight up. Nothing's changed. Wrestling is still trying to find its groove right now.

SPEAKER_00:

Fam, I it's funny. I almost feel as if we had the experience of the difference between watching a show live and watching a show on TV, even with the fact that how we saw the Royal Rumble. Because we were not at Saudi Arabia when we watched the Royal Rumble. But as y'all saw, we was at Dave and Buster's and we were in a room filled with other wrestling fans watching the Royal Rumble. It was a Royal Rumble watch party, and we had uh what was Me Chen and got them.

SPEAKER_01:

KO and KO made a funny joke after uh Sami Zayn's match. She said, Hey guys, I'm heading out. I'm gonna go join the Royal Rumble. We're like, ha ha ha ha. He didn't make it. I guess it's uh apparently number 30. He couldn't make it at time, so they put Gunther in. Damn, that's crazy. They said, KO, are you are you gonna get here close? Uh no, my rocket is not setting off to get here.

SPEAKER_00:

Damn, so instead they throw Gunther, even though we had goddamn uh uh um Kit Wilson, which would have been better. That would have been up. Comparably speaking, just for an excitement point of view, Kit Wilson would have been fun. Yes, it would have it would have easily been fun. He however there is a part of me that feels as if because they're in Saudi Arabia, it wasn't gonna be the pop we expected.

SPEAKER_01:

No, but also at the same time, for reasons for thinking for us, it would have been a great pop. It would have been, uh yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

But America? Oh, but like with the with the show being in Saudi Arabia, I feel as if the pop would not have been there.

SPEAKER_02:

Nah.

SPEAKER_00:

As I've been watching other people talk about the Royal Rumble, and the point that I was about to get to is just the fact that I feel uh our view of the Royal Rumble low-key might have been skewed with rose-colored glasses.

SPEAKER_01:

I mean, I don't think so. I felt like the Royal Rumble, besides the women's match, I mean the women's match was great. Like the outcome is what we wanted. I do you not agree, live winning was the right decision?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. However, I also feel with the women's Royal Rumble, I don't think there were too many wrong decisions to go with.

SPEAKER_01:

I I mean, yeah, I mean, anybody could have won it and it'd been like, oh, for the women's Royal Rumble, yeah, with the women's one, it'd be like damn near anyone. There's a very Ripley. There's Rhea Ripley, I feel like people would have been like, come on, again. Uh a little bit. Yeah, just a little bit.

SPEAKER_00:

Not like as much as Roman, but like, but but but to that point, there is a very small amount of female wrestlers who could have won that Royal Rumble and we wouldn't have been hyped about. Hell yeah. Whereas with the man's Royal Rumble.

SPEAKER_01:

Valkyrie.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, she couldn't be in the Royal Rumble.

SPEAKER_01:

She was in there.

SPEAKER_00:

Stephanie?

SPEAKER_01:

Not Stephanie. Um uh what's her name? Uh Bailey's partner. Fuck, I can't think of anything I want to say.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, first off.

SPEAKER_01:

I know, I know, I know. My my whole brain went to the whole uh fuck.

SPEAKER_00:

Um I mean, Val Valkyria is the is the because I I I now see the correlation. Yeah, yeah, the two B's. But but but uh don't do that to her.

SPEAKER_01:

Right now is not the time. I need her to cook a little bit more. I'm not saying she's bad, I'm just saying she needs to cook a little bit more.

SPEAKER_00:

Sure. I I guess, but at the same time, like though she's not necessarily a great one to be like, oh, it would have definitely been a surprise. It would have been a surprise, but I've been like But I don't think it's I wouldn't say it would have been like a bad thing.

SPEAKER_01:

I I'd have felt like that's a push that I don't think I would have expected.

SPEAKER_00:

It would have at least I will agree that it would have been a questionable choice.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm not saying it would have been bad, but it would have been like I want her to cook a little bit more. It would have been a questionable choice, especially considering the fact that she's been like on a losing streak with uh she is yeah, a losing streak and she is lukewarm at best.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Kind of thing.

SPEAKER_00:

She gotta cook a little bit more. But then when you flip to the guy's side, it's like there were fantastic options and ideas they could have gone with. Could you imagine Javon Evans? That would have been fantastic. Granted, obviously they weren't going to let that boy get the title because he's, you know, he with how young he is, he's got plenty of time. But like, as far as but the now I will say this though. When it comes to the men's Royal Rumble, and the reasons why I feel as if like the whole like the the the rose colored glasses proportion of it, um, which I mean I don't I still don't think it was necessarily that bad, but man, the universe has royally been shitting on this Royal Rumble.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, I mean, yeah, because I mean Roman, like like you said, one uh the audience from the last episode, they were like, Look, man, that's the safest option, it's not a fun option. But I mean, once I remember seeing something somewhere where Roman said he wanted to be a part of Mania and he wanted a title match. Well, otherwise he I feel like if he would have done it at the elimination chamber, he would have got off a little bit better.

SPEAKER_00:

I agree. Like it would have came off a little bit better, it wouldn't have felt so corporate, yes, which is you want him to point, you know, which is the I do believe the main issue with the rumble, and then the proceedings of why this week of wrestling, and interestingly enough, throughout all of wrestling this week has just been largely boring as hell. I'm talking there's no company that is safe from it. Like AEW A stuff TNA now I I almost feel it's a little unfair for TNA because they're already like in the negative.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh no no no no no no we're gonna make it even worse because did you just see their fucking card for no is it no surrender? Yes, okay, bro. Why are you gonna put fucking Slater and Santana in a tag match with two people? It has no reason. Slater has not defended his title in almost like almost a month now, and you put him in a tag when it means the heavyweight title is not even being defended on the show. So both of your two main titles are not being defended on the show, and then two, you got the righteous and the hardiest going against the the the order four when they're currently feuding with the system.

SPEAKER_00:

So that part is one of the reasons why I'm just like it doesn't make sense it's less it doesn't make sense, however, there is a small part of me that understands why this is happening, and it's because they're trying to get as many important people who have big names on this pay-per-view for people to watch it, because at the end of the day, TNA has no stars.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, let's say this hold up. They're trying to make Moose a star again because he goes back and he destroys the system. Solo dolo.

SPEAKER_00:

But see, that's the key word. They're trying to make Moose a star again. Okay, okay. He's not a star right now. Okay. Like, he has he is the potential star. Yeah. They just have to rebuild him. However, the problem is is the fact that they don't have anything for him to scale up to. So a good example of scaling your care your wrestlers to superstars, right? Uh I would say with SmackDown, right? SmackDown, we had the tag team champions going up against Julia and uh uh um James. Yes. Uh is it Kalana? No, that's that Kalani is a I said Klani, I said Kalana. Well, that that's still incorrect.

SPEAKER_01:

It's still incorrect, but I just know it's James. Last name is James.

SPEAKER_00:

But but so uh so those two going up against EOSky and Rhea Ripley. Now, prior to this point, like, yes, Julia's the United States champion, but nobody cares. Yes. However, they had that match with Rhea and all of them, and this is right after um uh see, I really need her name now, but not Julia, but her tag team partner. Miss James. Let's just say Miss James. So Miss James. But like she at the Royal Rumble, she showed out.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes, which is she made I think people were like really shot behind. Yes.

SPEAKER_00:

Remember at the show? Yes. Like everyone's they're pushing Last Legend, but she was the one who actually was like making some fucking moves in the Royal Rumble, yeah, type thing, right? So it's like we have her, and she has shown herself after showing herself in the Royal Rumble, the match that she had with these two, for all intents of purposes, especially with how hard they was fighting, it low-key made her a little bit of a. If the tag team champions are the measuring stick, yeah, having them go against these absolute stars right here, it helped raise them up and made them a little bit more legitimate because of how good their match was. Okay, kind of thing. And so it's like even though they lost, they did not lose in a way where it made them look weak. It actually now they kind of look like they could be a threat.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, so you basically saying, hey, watch out for them potentially.

SPEAKER_00:

Correct. Like they kind of they've kind of put themselves in a better spot than where they was. Another example of that is kind of sort of with how I've said and how you can see them trying to use MJF on AEW. MJF is the star of AEW. Okay, and so how do you make more stars? You take your biggest star and let them rub off on the star you're trying to bring up to help legitimize them a bit.

SPEAKER_01:

So, like the squash mash with Brody King?

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, granted, a horrible choice of way of doing it, but I mean, but Brody King compared to somebody like MJF should be getting destroyed.

SPEAKER_01:

Because granted, MJF's a technical wrestler, he's a great wrestler, but Brody King is fucking Brody King. Brody King's supposed to be that monster.

SPEAKER_00:

Correct. Destroying somebody like which which I believe and would agree is true, kind of thing. However, I like I know for me personally, I was not mad at the squash match that happened. Like, it but in the way that it happened, like it, because we got the visuals and all the stuff that happened at the end and whatnot, I feel as if that did help boost up Brody King a bit. Especially him being in the ring with who they're trying to make their main event scene with, you know, seeing him standing next to an Andrade El Igalo and then your your hangman Adam Page and and all this other stuff, right? So it's like that visual is nice seeing him with those guys, kind of thing. However, I'ma be real. I feel AEW, which is typical for them, they go about some of these things in just the wrong way. For for one, this whole what they call it in these eliminator matches.

SPEAKER_01:

For just like to get an opportunity. Oh, yeah, like you have to go against a champ to get a championship match. Correct. I I do feel that's a bit wonky, but like at the same time, Loki New Japan's doing that shit with uh uh Jake Lee and uh uh Suji.

SPEAKER_00:

But they're doing it kind of in preview match. Like it's kind of actually not just not that Natchy really kind of put it. That's what I'm saying. It's like a preview match. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

It really is kind of like the same thing. But but but normally one of them doesn't take the pin.

SPEAKER_00:

So I will say though, that's that kind of thing has kind of sort of always been a dude. Yeah. So like anytime you see where there's like a tag team match situation and one of the champions gets pinned by someone who is not the champion, that usually puts them in good in a good spot where they can be all like, hey, I've pinned the champion before, so maybe the number one contender. But that's in those kind of matches, as opposed to John Moxley in his tweener group, apparently, right now, going out there and he having a match with somebody just to see if they can beat him so that they can fight him again for the title. I'm just like, it's it's honestly, it's just lazy booking, which is what rubber matches pretty much almost. Apparently. Almost, yeah. So let me put it to me, right? Before the the way that you put together matches to see who's gonna fight the champion, is you get two guys who really want to fight up against the champion, two or more, at least two, because it takes two to take up. So you you have these two guys, and they go through a series or some matches to face each other, possibly creating a little bit of story, a little bit of background to kind of sort of help create things for possible future situations, for them to fight to become a number one contender, and then that number one contender goes on to fight the champion while they're and and that helps create story. When you just have cold turkey, you versus whoever the heavyweight champion is, y'all ain't ever had a match, y'all never spoke a word to each other, but y'all just have a match and all of a sudden, oh, you beat them. Well, now you get now you're the number one contender for the title. And so now it's like, okay, but what history do y'all have together? When you're gonna when you y'all have never spoke, never been in a match with each other, when you stand in front of the camera like this, and it's like, all right, so how do you feel about your uh match coming up and da-da-da-da? What are you gonna say? Uh I I'm really happy I got this match. Uh uh, I I know I'm the best, and I'm I'm here to fight the best, and I'm I'm going to be the best. And by being the best, I'm gonna unfortunately.

SPEAKER_01:

I ain't gonna lie, did you see that? And I I hate to caveat to this because it's it's one of those things about wrestling I do think that sucks. Because when you but the promo you just said was what Yoto Suji did, and you saw that shit. You saw that shit. My man's smiling like, oh, I like Jake. Uh I feel like Jake shouldn't have gone to the United Empire, and he should have should have came to Unbound Company. It's just the fitting feet for him. Bro, have you not seen how he's been kicking your ass and and and then treating you a certain way? And then says, Hey, put the belt on the line, and he gets in your face and he says, I'll put the title on the line. He's aggressive and he's angry. Promo. I think Jake's a good guy. I miss this Jake. You know what I'm saying? He's a Fremidable F. And I'm like, what in the fuck is that? And then you see Jake's interview. I don't know if you saw that, but you see Jake's interview, and that was solid. That was a man who was coming back to say, hey, I went through hell from that injury. I don't want anybody else to experience that. And I feel like from what I am, I'm gonna be the first triple crown uh Grand Slam champion of all three promotions of uh Japan. All Japan, Noah, and now New Japan. And he was talking about struggle. He gave not a not a hangman Adam Page promo, but you can feel a sm a smidget of his pain. And Suji's and I'm like, what the fuck is this? What what is this? So we we we bring this to say, guys, wrestling fucking sucks right now, okay? Uh after the Royal Rumble all across the board. Uh there's some interesting things in WWE, some I can't say about AEW.

SPEAKER_00:

It's uh mildly interesting. There's nothing interesting going on in AEW. TNA is trying very, very hard to piss me off. And I it like this. I watched TNA, and I it's it's one of those things where I feel like they're lost. They feel like they're lost in the sauce, and they're trying to get their bearing straight on what it is that they want to do and what they want to be.

SPEAKER_01:

Feel is a strong word. Because I, if I don't recall, and speaking of TNA, when you get fired from Feast of Fire, you're gone. You don't keep hanging around and doing shit. Because how is Steve Macklin still around?

SPEAKER_00:

Well, that was well, because what's his name made it clear? Like he let him come back to say goodbye to everybody. Yeah. That was that's the reason why he was there.

SPEAKER_01:

But here's the thing he then he beats down Mike Santana, which owns some G shit. If you let somebody beat your ass like that, and you not tell him to reinstate him, but we just go, he's gonna get his ass beat, but then in the next week, he team it up with Slater.

SPEAKER_00:

So come on, man. Like there's a part of me that feels as if they're going, which is the bad storytelling right now, because that happens when Santana came out there. I 1000% expected him to say reinstate him so that I can get my lick back and be his ass. I'll put the title on the line. That's some cheat shit type situation, and that's what I expected. Nope. But instead, he kind of came out there and said a whole lot of nothing.

SPEAKER_01:

And you just got your ass kicked.

SPEAKER_00:

And then the the match that you're talking about, like, this is the part where I'm just like, I'm there, I feel like they're lost in the sauce, and they haven't and they're trying to figure out what they're going to do, and they're in a weird position where it's like, all right, we gotta like do stuff to make sure people at least watch. And it's like but the stuff that they're doing to me is like very sporadically being done. Because it's like there's number one, the the youngest in charge has not been on TV in almost a month since the start of this promotion on TV. Okay, which was yeah, that's a month. Has it been a month? Yeah. January. Yeah, no, yeah. I'm sorry, I keep forgetting the fact that we're like we're like seven days down in TV. And on black history month, and he's getting treated like this. Uh I mean I guess.

SPEAKER_01:

You know, I I don't I don't I'm just I'm sure I'm just saying. I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_00:

He almost doesn't count though, because he's like European black.

SPEAKER_01:

Respecting Slater. Respecting as a bruv. As a whatever.

SPEAKER_00:

But my thing is though, is the fact that like he has not been there. Why is this match happening? Because when you look at the match, it's the champion versus somebody who has a chance to fight the champion if they train their title, and the two people that he's going against, one of them has the briefcase, the challenge the champion for the title. And who is his other partner? Uh, the other person he's supposed to be fighting?

SPEAKER_01:

It's uh because I think because I thought it was it's not the Nimit brothers, no. Um it's not Nick Nimit, is it? No, I don't think so. No, because he's still dealing with the same situation with with Homegirl, and then she's still super kicking.

SPEAKER_00:

him no no no no no that that that's the brother Mike Nimming you're right sorry yeah which Nick um which that was that was that was a bad segment I ain't gonna find with you that shit was well no well not just it was it was a very corny segment that they had where I like it was it was almost cringe because they're doing this whole like I'm he's doing this whole I'm better than you shit and so they're like doing sports things and playing horse and it just kind of he wants to be Mr. Perfect but he's not no I mean well because remember Mr. Perfect used to do stuff like that with the vignettes yes kind of but he wasn't did he do that like up against no so technically somebody said it otherwise it was like the Matt Hardy and Mvp segments back in the day okay oh yeah where they tried like they played basketball against each other they raced each other which is yes but they just made it very it was like it was very dry with bad acting and it and it's not and it's not the Nimeth brother who who was doing the bad acting in my personal opinion like what used to be Jakara Jackson like she was kind of she was dry as fuck bro I'm not even gonna I'm not even gonna front with you bro I was like she's a like like it felt like she was reading cue cards and just like reading in and going through her lines very unenthusiastically like she doesn't want to do this while the other Nimith brothers looking like a complete and utter idiot can't almost as as much as he wants as much as he's trying and so it's like that it it did it was not successful.

SPEAKER_01:

But but going back to the the title match itself though with the you know uh Slater and Santana and it honestly it doesn't even matter like I'm not saying nothing against the opponents it really does not matter who the opponents are it's the fact that your next pay-per-view does not contain title matches of your X division and your world heavyweight title that is why we're coming to the show we want to see title matches technically I don't even think there's a title match besides the women's title uh you're probably right what's the name of the paper uh no surrender no surrender that information man honestly why hasn't Slater used option C yet okay so yeah so yeah so that is the so so I was right so no the match it's pretty much which to me I'm like Katie Edwards yeah but so the match is and it in in in Nick Nimeth is in this match okay so it's literally the heavyweight champion teaming up with someone who can cash in their title to fight him for the belt uh Nick Nimmouth who has the the the trophy yes the the shot the trophy in the bank call your shot chance of fighting the champion for the title and then uh Eddie Edwards who has a briefcase for a title shot for a title shot that's three that's literally three ways you can lose this belt that night so yes and there's a part of me that I'm like I under I get why it is a bit exciting now when you bring that because you're like which one of the three are just gonna say option C but all your shot or briefcase which the idea behind the match is cool right because you know him having to be in this match with all of these people who are who could potentially just gun for his title right then and there the problem is there has not been any kind of build towards this match to help because as of right now with the way it's been presented it's like an AEW match where someone just put a bunch of people in a match to fight each other.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean that's that's New Japan too but but like but see but the but that is but that in itself is the problem. You're right I'm not like sure New Japan does that however new japan can get away with that kind of thing because Japanese wrestling is produced and delivered in a very different way in a different light than what American wrestling is okay and it's like that whole idea of like when you have been presented or it's almost like as if like it's like how a habit happens right whenever whenever a a habit starts you know you know you're you're constantly doing it and becomes it kind of be it becomes that routine for you things feel weird and things get different when you try to break that habit kind of thing or when you like break that chain of doing something all the time that would be like if you I'm trying to think of something clean that you do here um that that's uh like in general yes okay I'm currently fasting all right so if you are currently I would say so before you were fasting you know you was eating normal but then all of a sudden you're breaking that that that chain of doing normal and now you're going to fasting and so it's an adjustment and sometimes people can't make that adjustment or when you make that adjustment now it's gonna be hard to go back to how you used to do things before type thing. With New Japan or Japanese wrestling it has been presented in this particular way for decades yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah all right then you go and look at we can specifically say just TNA we've watched TNA for decades yeah yeah yeah actually it I think is technically a decade just a decade so it's like decade and a half so it's like we have a decade of TNA we have a decade of TNA in the past giving us stories leading into matches with cool big finishes for them to all of a sudden start trying to do new Japan shit that doesn't make any fucking sense well we did say we did say that uh Tony Khan is the biggest New Japan mark and he likes making his promotion an American New Japan but well that well so with Tony Khan the situation that he has is the fact that sure he is a big new Japan mark if he wanted to make new Japan an America what he should have done is just made New Japan in America if he just wanted to put matches together and make people fight and make things happen in the ring sure but instead he decided to do Western wrestling which we all know what Western wrestling is storylines backstage segments the kick shenanigans bladda all of those type of things that is western wrestling and that is what western people want to see on their TV and what entertains them to the maximum no no great wrestling will entertain this week is a is is a is a very prime example of that because there has been some really great wrestling and it will entertain to a point we can also talk about like one thing that was very entertaining is Cody Cody said yo I didn't get the the the nickname Raheem for no reason because if this is going to be a a measuring contest I didn't get the name Raheem for no reason I'm like bro uh and then the WWE actually took a moment and said yo Cody's been listening to the memes I mean it'd be impossible for him to not but it's the way that WWE put it in it's literally the description of one of their videos Cody's listening to the memes and it's that and it's that moment I'm like which that that I did not see that but I'm like you didn't see that segment no no no oh that video oh I'll show it to you talking about the hook Cody's been listening to the I'll show it to you so I hate it when things like that happen because it's like wow way to kill the fucking joke right here like way to kill the joke because now because it's like we we get those who get it they get it you don't you don't need to spell it out for us now you've just kind of sort of like ah not now it's not cool anymore like like like Well I mean when he says it is cool yes no no it's cool but yeah what WWE but for them to have to the that that's like me saying a joke like that's me saying like why a chicken cross road to get to the other side and then when we posted it's all like huh he made it to the other side like stop it no like shut up shut up you're ruining the joke now now it's not cool anymore no now we're now we gotta change him to like the Demarcus you know what I'm saying like he can't be Raheem no more because now he made it uncool. Something something Cody Rhodes like but no no no I mean that was great and that was a fantastic promo one of the nice exciting things about SmackDown but everything else on SmackDown I'm sorry the things that were exciting about SmackDown Cody Cody Raheem Rhodes Kit Wilson getting squashed by Oba Femi no um what bro bro don't even fine we will get started okay yeah go ahead go ahead go ahead go ahead I want to hear this I wanna hear this listen bro alright obviously the WWE universe knows who the fuck Oba Femi is apparently from WWE standpoint they don't and because of that him going around doing these squash matches are absolutely stupid I mean that is correct him squashing the war raiders was uncalled for that no him squishing period right now is uncall we don't need obo we do not need Ryback squash matches for another two weeks all right we need him to get into the ring and start a fucking something with someone because they're being bringing stupid about this push with him like we know who the fuck this nigga is he is Oba Femi the ruler two time uh NXT champion one of the strongest North American champion carriers he did what Asuka did and said you know what I don't want to play with this anymore y'all can have fun with that because y'all ain't shit I'm gonna go to where the big boys are and I'm going to fight there we we've done that we promoted him we saw what he did in the Royal Rumble you know what we need to be doing instead of him pitter pattering with these fucking toxic whatever and goddamn beating up a very credible tag team jobbing them the fuck out in a division where the tag team man's theory is absolute garbaggio yeah yeah yeah yeah instead of doing that get your money's worth of Brock Lesnar and let's revisit that shit because that's what we should do that's what's the thing man or put him in the goddamn elimination chamber and have him beat some motherfuckers but here's the thing the reason why I feel like they're doing that is to that way okay it would make sense if he goes in the chamber and starts squashing motherfuckers no no that that's not that's that's why I feel like that's what they're thinking I don't believe it that's obviously that's what I think they're thinking I hope that's not what they're thinking because as of right now I don't even think he's gonna be in the elimination chamber I don't they're not gonna put him in there what would be great well no no no no no no if they do kind of pull maybe a similar situation with uh Jay Cargill and Bianca Belair but instead was over is coming to the ring Brock attacks. But why would that make sense? Brock Lesnar eliminated him why the fuck does Brock Lesnar care? Why does he care?

SPEAKER_01:

That's that's the thing that's the narrative they want to make that mania I don't but but what other way would you what other way that WWE's trying to push this narrative what other way there is no other way and that's why they're shitting on themselves right now there there is no Oba Femi getting eliminated by Brock Lesnar.

SPEAKER_00:

Now what would make sense is Brock Lesnar gets the elimination chamber and then Oba Femi jumps him all right sure but the elimination chamber is like what in three weeks from now or something like that? And so you're telling me not even in the quote so that means you're telling me Oba Femi just sat here walked around squishing people for no fucking reason just to let that elimination by Brock Lesnar simmer for Brock Lesnar to go into the elimination chamber and then jump him how stupid is that it is very stupid but WWE also is fumbling the bag on what to do with him.

SPEAKER_01:

They don't know what to do with him.

SPEAKER_00:

You're correct they don't they don't know what to do with him it's very stupid and anything outside of that is going to continue to be stupid. Because you know what happens when you try to Ryback somebody right it makes I like how this is a term well because Ryback was the one who they did it with the worst. I know no I'm saying it's funny because if if I don't say Ryback then it'd be with the Braun Strowman effect but Braun Strowman only got Braun Strowman because Ryback paved the way for that to happen. I mean at least Braun Strowman got the heavyweight title which is true and out of these times where they'll have this big bad dude just fucking demonstrating people and everything like this you know because what happens is when you have when you do what you're doing with Oba Femi right and you have him beat people two big motherfuckers like the War Raiders two big motherfuckers who should give Oba Femi a fucking challenge when he dog walks two big men two big men that almost equals 1000 pounds of force and this one man bodies that when he loses to Sammy Zayn later on down the line he becomes uncredible when he gets put down by Seth Rollins he becomes uncredible when Randy Orton well Randy but if even with if a Randy Orton beats him that's going to tarnish his image the only thing that is going to fix that type of situation is if he goes up against another big ass motherfucker and there's not a lot of those not in WWE like right now Oba Femi's a big dude right who's another big dude right now Bronson uh Bronson Reed okay so with a Brunson Reed sure now grant Oba Femi also has not picked which kind of which which show he's going to be on but it's like but even with the Brunson we read because Brunson weed he's big but he's not tall so it's like the we don't got a lot of tall big motherfuckers no more correct and so it's like when you look at like with Braun Strowman what when with with the route that he ended up taking on his rise he ended up once they got done having him squash all these people he went up against Roman Reigns who was the champion type thing and that makes sense and that's how you should do it Roman Reigns he's not a small guy you know he is a big stronger looking dude and that is a good way to go with it. But right now when you look at the landscape like when you look at the landscape number one unfortunate for for Obafimi the top is too cluttered with all of the people who are currently making TKO all of their dollars. Yes and so it's like with him where he needs to go is directly to the main event and be fighting for a heavyweight title but if he goes around does all this squashing just to get the the United States title the IC title to very dead no one gives a fuck about belts but here's the thing with that too I feel like if you put him in that position he can never go down the card after that point.

SPEAKER_01:

Like the way there are shooting him out there into the public like yeah beating up the war raiders and stuff like that that means he cannot go for an IC title he can never go for a US title if he goes straight to the main event for the heavyweight title and say he wins he's like Roman you can't go for the IC belt now he can't go for the US title belt now the ruler is such an overwhelming presence and a in a title that you just can't see anything else but main event and that is the unfortunate nature of Obavimi and also how they are currently booking him because you're booking him in a way where he can't do anything lower.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes like yes yes but no at the same time okay I say yes yes because I believe what you're saying is right but the only reason why it would be possible to bump him down at a certain point is because um the reason why it is a it's possible to be able to bump him down and him not completely lose his credibility is because of the one thing that we're not getting any of right now in that story. So you're saying that if he has no story they will bump him down to IC no no no oh he would go for it because of a story situation because of a story situation got it got it got it and that's what is missing in this week of wrestling when you look at everything that has happened in wrestling what the the thing that has made everything mad boring after the Royal Rumble when you look at what has happened in the Royal Rumble and you think about the the possible potential feuds you know so and so eliminated this person now they want to get their get back once upon a time directly after the Royal Rumble you had get back matches like just uh like like last legend versus who the fuck actually last legend would probably be good against uh shoot that because there was something that happened at the um her and James didn't they have like an issue in in the match and she uh last legend was the one that eliminated her so I think so but just to use that as an exp as as an example because last legend did have a match and she she lost that match because it was for the um of the Domination chamber yeah but like you know to to set up some kind of story right like let's say that was the case you know usually after the Royal Rumble someone that they would there would be a match of some sort where it's those two are fighting each other because one eliminated the other one and then after that match happens something can be made from that or you know there's some kind of some kind of build of some sort there is some kind of build that can progress from that I mean shit look at fucking CM Punk and Drew that literally was a match because Drew did the future shot DDT and hurt him.

SPEAKER_01:

So CM Punk came back and said hey yo you hurt me at the rumble I'm gonna fuck you up and that's how we got those amazing matches from the three of them.

SPEAKER_00:

Exactly none of that has happened after this no and that and that is dumb. Now you know that is very dumb the closest to any of that we've gotten is specifically dealing with the heavyweight titles with McIntyre Cody and Jacob and then which is crazy got jumped twice in the same night yeah that was kind of funny and then the whole Roman Reigns and CM Punk thing. Which is a good promo. Let me I will say the promo that those two had with each other made it where like man I don't give a fuck about this match I really hate that Roman Reigns won the Royal Rumble. However they kind of was spitting so I'm a little interested the story the story of like I'm not choosing you because of you having the the best title whatever I'm choosing you because I hate you and it was like woo and Lil Wayne woo exactly and so there and because there is this that back story that has been being made throughout the years because they've had intersecting storylines going on and all this other stuff is what is is solely what is going to make this match give a fuckable about kind of thing. Give a fuckable is crazy. However it's kind of also crazy because like that's happening with which is which is part of the reasons why I really Really hated the whole Sami Zayn and Drew McIntyre thing. Because it really just fucks him. Because it's like, yes. And that's what they're doing to your boy Finn Balor.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes.

SPEAKER_00:

It's like Finn Balor out here attacked what's his name? My boy? Yeah. Penn. Remember y'all, y'all, y'all got to be. Nah, nah, nah, nah.

SPEAKER_01:

Nope, nope, nope, nope. The same birth month thing. Get the fuck out of here with that shit. Anyway, yeah, this little side conversation we had in the chat where it was like uh I posted up on the screen where it was like, yo, birthday month, this is your tag team partner. And it pin and I got I got Penn Balor, okay? No, now granted, I did enjoy the fact that uh Finn Balor came back. I said Finn because that was the guy who used to win when he had the NXT theme song and everything. But this guy currently, I don't know what the hell. And then also, just because of the Roman situation, you've now pushed Finn Balor's story to the side.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, like you literally put it. But now it's like, so even if even if they do fight each other at like Elimination Chamber, it's not. No one cares. He's not winning again. It's not like we we expect Finn Balor to win that match.

SPEAKER_01:

Now, granted, now granted, now granted. Hear me out. The demon at Mania, though.

SPEAKER_00:

The demon is dead, bro. I know, but I'm just gonna be able to do that. The demon is dead as much as Kane's as much as Kane is dead, bro.

SPEAKER_01:

Stop saying Okay, you want me to call him my boy? You want me to call him my boy? I need the demon back, okay? If the demon was at mania, okay boy, you better get used to your pin ballad, brother. I I'm very used to it already.

SPEAKER_00:

You're gonna be very in the internet's used to being pin ballad, too. You're gonna have to just uh let that ride.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, how about this? How about this? We already kind of know what the main events matches uh of Mania are going to be. It's gonna be punk versus Roman. And I'm sorry, as much as we I truly do believe it will be a triple threat for Drew's title with uh Cody and Fa Two. Granted, we still got an Elimination Chamber, so we still have to see, but I truly feel like one of those two is winning. Because who else is gonna win the Elimination Chamber?

SPEAKER_00:

So who are you saying winning the Elimination Chamber?

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, so okay, here are the two possibilities, right? Two possibilities. It's going to be either Cody or Fat 2 because I do not see another match that happens at Mania besides that. Now you can say Randy Orton, you could say he wins the Elimination Chamber, but the story between Drew and Orton. Then what happens to Cody and Fat 2? Do they have a Mania match with I guess?

SPEAKER_00:

There would have to be some real crazy buildup for well some uh not even no, not so much that there would have to be crazy buildup, but they would have to figure out a way to make that like why should we care about that still by that time? You got like almost two months. Yes, we have so because as of right now, it's currently just established that like yes, uh Cody Rhodes and and goddamn Jacob Fatu right now, they're only butting heads at each other just because the reasons why they're fighting each other is it's for all intents and purposes kind of minute, and it's almost like they're really fighting each other because they both want to get their hands on Drew McIntyre, but they keep getting in each other's way, type situation. But like, the only way we keep that feud happening going all the way into WrestleMania is that somehow Cody and Fatou get into the elimination chamber, and somehow they both have to screw each other out of a chance of continuing on. And there has to be like it directly has to be something that is where, like, you know, Fatou is like getting close to possibly winning, and like Cody Rhodes gone does something, and then Cody Rhodes also loses, and Fatou takes that shit personally, which is which could be done, but like it's it's really tough. It is really tough.

SPEAKER_01:

The whole situation is tough, but I will say what's really been tough is man, this is it's just a weird week of wrestling. I know we've been talking about the WWW here all the time, but man, this week of wrestling just it just was not good. I mean, there was good moments, but like, again, from us, we've we've watched WWE for multiple years and know what a good night of Raw looks like, what a good night of SmackDown looks like, hell, what a good night of TNA and Pat looks like. Somewhat AEW.

SPEAKER_00:

So magic, because it's only the five, but like, but even in the five, even in the five years, there is a very distinct period where AEW was must-watch TV.

SPEAKER_01:

Especially during the hangman and swerve situation. Oh my god, I could not miss that.

SPEAKER_00:

AEW knew how to make story. They've had story. Now, it's weird because they went from having story but overbooking their matches with a thousand false finishes and you know tombstoning someone and they just jump back up, ah, and then they grab the other person, they tombstone them, then they jump back up, ah, and then they just beat each other down, and then they hit a knee to the face and they finished the match. Like they they went through a horrible period of booking that kind of fucking content, and that began their downfall. But now they figured out how to not do that stupid indie shit, but in the process of stopping that and having actually relatively decent endings and finishes for matches that are not so extremely overbooked, in light of doing that, they completely forgot about story and making shit make sense. Like sometimes I feel like I have to watch, like I have to watch uh AEW and completely change my mental mindset. And even then, when I do, they still find ways to do questionable shit. Like to this point, I have now just decided that you know what? I'm just gonna stop arguing it and Death Riders are good guys. Turn off your brain. The Death Riders are good guys because they're going up against Don Callis' family, all right? And Don Callis' family, because I've always said this before, I've always said this, is the fact that if you want to turn a really bad guy into a baby face, you just need to make that bad guy face off against a worser guy. And Don Callis is the baddest and the worst of the worst. So, so the Death Riders who have done some extremely deplorable things that have not truly been answered to.

SPEAKER_01:

Wait, honestly, the the stuff that Death Riders is way worse than the Don Callis family.

SPEAKER_00:

This is true, but people just hate Don Callis so much, he gets so much heat that apparently he makes the the Death Riders look like good upstanding citizens. So now we cheer the Death Riders. Sure. But then in the same breath of that happening, we have Arena Shafir and uh fucking Wheeler Muda. Oh, with the hair match, having this hair match as heels against Timeless Tony Storm and Orig Cassidy, the babyface of babyface.

SPEAKER_01:

Which we know they're loses.

SPEAKER_00:

We're booing them when they're fighting there, but in the same exact fucking night, we are cheering these same exact motherfuckers when they're fighting against the Don Callis family. It's so hard to make this make sense.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, actually, that is crazy. It's so hard to make this make sense. That is crazy.

SPEAKER_00:

While we got Gabe Kid out here dragging around Darby Allen and stepping on him with the steps, by the way. You know, doing all of this shit. Cutting him in half. Which, even then, which the whole Darby Allen thing is fucking stupid. So Darby Allen has been at the like like knife to neck with the Death Riders, right? This whole time. Darby Allen, honest and truthfully, never actually get legitimately gets his lick back on the Death Riders. They had that coffin match, he lost. Then the next time they have a match, he wins, but at what fucking cost? For him to turn around and be all like, wait, I I still have to beat Pac. And then now that he's beaten Pac, which was like, meh, it was a who cares match, he beats Pac, and now Darby Allen's out here and like, I've finally beaten the Death Riders. What did you accomplish in beating the Death Riders? What did that accomplish? Just a peace of mind, like, all right, I managed to beat every person in the Death Riders. Yay! Achievement unlocked. You've beaten everyone in the Death Riders. After losing to them several times, by the way, had to lose to each of them several times, but he was able to beat them once. And now that he's beaten them once, he could go on with the rest of his life and act as if the death riders never existed.

SPEAKER_01:

You know, it's kind of almost similar to a kid that's like, yo, I'm gonna come here every day after I get my I'm gonna get my lid back, and you do. And it's like, but we beat your ass every day. I don't care. I got my one lick.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, it's like when you're playing a game and you and you're you won 10 rounds. You won 10 rounds, but he gets that one win, like, I'm the best. I beat your ass, bro. It's like, but I beat you to the but I beat you just now. Well, let's run it back. Why should I? I've already beaten you. There's no reason to run it back anymore. I'm the victor. I got my W. I'm gonna go over here and and and and go skating now. That's Darby Allen right now. Bro, it mind numbing.

SPEAKER_01:

And it's more of the reasons why we say that today wrestling just fucking sucks, right? There's so much unpredictability, there's so much going on that you're just like, uh, I mean, we were trying to enjoy it because we're watching wrestling for years, we're trying to enjoy it, but the stuff that's going on at WWE, AEW, TNA, I can't say too much about New Japan just yet, but like it's it's a little bit weird. And I uh to kind of close this, what are your overall thoughts, Wag? Just kind of close this and just put it to bed.

SPEAKER_00:

So to be full transparent, I feel there is there is wrestling every day of the week. Yes. And it's like there used to be a time where I could watch wrestling, go to bed, wake up, and recite everything that happened on wrestling because of how exciting it was. And then now I'll go to bed and I wake up. And if I didn't take notes, there's a small chance that I'm not gonna remember anything that happened on there besides maybe one or two things, and one of them being Stephanie Vacare's delicious booty. You know what I'm saying? Because you can't forget that, and so it's it's one of those deals where it's like now, like in a in a week's span of wrestling, on each show, it's getting to a point where there's just like onesie twosie things that were actually entertaining. On SmackDown, it's a three-hour show, and it feels like in each hour, there's like one thing that was cool. In 60 minutes, there was one thing that was actually worth talking about. In that first hour, it was Cody Raheem Rhodes, in that second hour, it was uh um it was him in the United States title match. And in that last hour, fat two jump in Drew. And that's barely no, in that last hour, hon, and that crazily enough, in that last hour for me, it was Trick Williams and his lemon pepper steppers. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01:

Oh yeah, you know, I forgot about that segment. Yep, coming up to basically say, hey yo, I'm gonna get that belt.

SPEAKER_00:

And I'm it just I'm honestly really excited for more trick Williams. And I'm I'm I'm currently happy with this projectory they're doing for him.

SPEAKER_01:

I need him to, I need him to just don't lose this stratosphere, like just everything about him. Like, WWE don't fumble this, please. Fam, do not fumble this.

SPEAKER_00:

If WWE fumbles this, it is entirely because WWE fumbles. Yeah, this will be one of those, yes. Trick Williams comes out to the ring. Now, Oba Femi came over here. He literally dropped a belt, okay? But he's getting the squash matches. Trick Williams came over here after he lost a title and lost a chance at a title match. But he comes over here, and thank God they're all like, yeah, no, we're putting you in the ring with main eventors. And then you put him in the ring with main eventors, he gets the crowd reaction that he does. People are yelling, whoop that trick louder than you can feel the breeze of people yeeting.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes.

SPEAKER_00:

Kind of thing. And so it's like Trick Williams is a made man, and y'all could print money on him, but they're lazy and too safe. As some, as one of my uh uh favorite streamers says, uh uh Paul Levesque lives on Sesame Street, and uh he's got Elmo and Big Bird and Oscar, the you know, uh Oscar out there writing the material for WWE right now because it's so because it's so safe. No chances are being taken. While in AEW, they're taking a lot of chances that they don't need to be fucking taking. And then TNA is out here literally just trying to figure out how to be a fucking wrestling company at this point with a a roster full of mid-carters. Like it's it's rough out here, and we're just sitting here watching this, like, man, I'm gonna go play Minecraft, dog.

SPEAKER_01:

I don't Can you imagine having to deal with this in high school? Like, just going I'm gonna end it tap because like imagine growing up to that and back in the day. Oh my god, and having to go to school talk about wrestling the next day. Fuck no.

SPEAKER_00:

I if if if we were in high school right now and the wrestling and wrestling was the content as it was at this very moment, because when we were in high school, WWE was they were on a hot streak and then they got really, really cold. But when they got really, really cold, TNA showed up and they were just doing banger after banger after banger situation type thing. But now I will say there was a little bit of a dark age period because when what was the Hogan and Dixon? When the Hogan and all that shit happened, and then they started sucking and WWE started sucking. However, if you were someone who was super into wrestling while all that garbage was happening, New Japan was nuclear. Yes, it was there and so usually when there is a period when a company is fucking up, there's another company that is rising from the ashes being the best in the world at what they do. But right now, we don't know what that is. We if there is a company out there that is currently rising up from the ashes and putting on really great content, great matches, great stories, let us know in the comments because we want to watch.

SPEAKER_01:

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