Why WWE 2K Keeps Betting On The Attitude Era

WWE 2K26 has fans arguing like it’s Monday night all over again, and we couldn’t ignore it. The game’s heavy Attitude Era focus has the internet wrestling community split between “stop rehashing nostalgia” and “this is the only era that reliably sells.” We talk through why the Attitude Era still feels like must-see TV in video game form, and why it’s the easiest story for WWE to package into a blockbuster wrestling game without confusing casual players.

Then we get into the tougher question: should the Ruthless Aggression Era get its own dedicated mode or full game? We run down the stars and moments that made 2002 to 2008 special, but we also hit the real obstacles, from missing key pieces to the unavoidable Chris Benoit conversation. If you’ve ever wondered why certain storylines get highlighted and others get quietly skipped, this is where the business side of WWE games and roster licensing crashes into fan wish lists.

We also zoom out into era timelines, the shift into the PG Era and “Super Cena,” and how AEW contracts and modern brand rivalry can limit who shows up in a WWE 2K roster. And because we’re us, we still find time for wrestling childhood stories, AI voice creepiness, and the kind of ragdoll chaos that makes people buy a game just to do something ridiculous off an ambulance.

If you’ve got strong feelings about WWE 2K26, the Attitude Era, the Ruthless Aggression Era, ECW, or what makes a wrestling video game worth full price, hit play and join the conversation. Subscribe, share this with a friend who won’t shut up about eras, and leave a review with your answer: what era deserves the next spotlight?

Transcript

Back On The Mic And Transparent

SPEAKER_03 0:10

One welcome to another episode of the Big Brothers of Destruction podcast. It's your host who likes to post the Masaku. And it's your boy, Swag Switcher in the building. And we are here to continue a discussion that we had in our previous episode that we did mention. We were going to have uh Razion on our last uh next episode, but we felt like this conversation just had to happen right now because the IWC is currently in a mixed bag.

SPEAKER_01 0:42

Don't let him bullshit you. He got way ahead of himself. Don't worry though. The interview is coming. He just jumped the gun and was all like, all right, it's coming in. No, no, no, no. We're getting there. We're almost there. We're almost there. But please, go ahead and bring us into the subject. Why the fuck would you do that?

SPEAKER_03 1:06

Like, why the fuck would you do that? We gotta be transparent. We can't lie in these. Okay, but but but we are also admitting that yes, I put a foot in my mouth and said, hey, boom, X episode is this, and then we're not there. So I'm explaining why and also making it more into character of like, man, we just had to have this conversation. I mean, we do.

SPEAKER_01 1:28

And this probably might not be the last time we bring it up. Because this is because it's a it's a pretty interesting thing that you're wanting to talk about here. And I do believe when we because we we have spoken with Rick. We have spoken. Oh, yeah. And we also mentioned it to him as well, this particular topic, and he's seen it. He's and he's also like, yeah, that's that's a thing. But we might bring it up, you know what I'm saying?

A Recurring Interview Question Idea

SPEAKER_03 1:56

My is is a is a is uh not a strong enough word. We definitely got to because I his opinions I'm very curious about. And I feel like, you know, we definitely should have an ongoing question to ask interviewers, kind of similar to like Marcus, I can't remember his name, but he he's the one guy that lifts a lot, and he does the Wisher Waffle House order. And I find that really funny in making something up like that for us. I don't think this would be that. No, no, no, no. I'm just saying in general for future interviews. So like if we're interviewing somebody and then, like, you know, just all right, cool, we gotta ask you the question so that way the audience is recurring question the audience can get behind.

SPEAKER_01 2:34

Now, the if I was going to ask such a if there's anything that I want to know and and whatnot, would be not just your Mount Rushmore, was your Mount Rushmore of animes? Or if they don't do animes, cartoons in general. And if they don't do cartoons, then we don't interview them.

SPEAKER_03 2:59

You can ask what's their child their four childhood favorite shows, maybe cartoons, exactly. I'm gonna say Disney, because Disney, you know what I'm saying? Live live shows is not cartoons, it's just a case. Cartoons, all right, but we ain't interviewing.

SPEAKER_01 3:15

What about games? Sure. But you can really tell a lot about somebody when you talk about what cartoons they used to watch or what animes they're into. Honestly, what animes they're into almost can directly translate into their games. Or maybe I'm wrong. I could be wrong. I could be just blowing smoke out of my ass here. But regardless, go ahead and give us this. Okay. Like, give us the because you you you gave us a small taste. Gotcha. And I had things I wanted to say, but because I knew there was other things that we specifically was going to talk about, I'm gonna save it all for here. Gotcha. Okay. So go ahead, bring it to us.

WWE 2K26 Attitude Era Backlash

SPEAKER_03 3:57

So I've noticed a little bit of back and forth with the IWCP. That's not it. The IWC, excuse me.

SPEAKER_01 4:06

Um, but about to call them like the uh the insane clown. Yeah, that's why I was like, what? The internet wrestling community.

SPEAKER_03 4:15

The internet wrestling community basically has been back and forth with the fact that this recent WWE2K26 is based on the attitude era, if not particularly the Monday Night Roar, the Monday Night War. And um they're really mixed when it comes to this because they feel like the attitude era has been done way too much, and there needs to now be an opportunity for the ruthless era aggression, uh, the ruthless era, uh, when it comes to the PG era, the reality era, they they want to have specific errors, but they really feel like the ruthless aggression era should get its shine too. Why don't we make that a game? And I was bringing up the argument that the fact that since they were saying, hey, you know, the only people that care about the attitude era are the 40 year olds. And I was like, well, that's kind of most of us is buying the fucking game. Sorry. Like, let's be real. Some of us have been buying the game every year for the last however many years you've been buying the game, you could have been buying it since two uh the war zone or attitude or something of that nature, but you've just been buying wrestling games every year, and it's a consistent for you. And a lot of those people in the roof was error aggression, not saying that you wouldn't, but we've been we've been here from day one, right? And uh to say that the ruthless era is not as it's not equivalent to the attitude era, and the only reason why I said that before is because everybody in that roster in the attitude era were all stars, everybody was a star, right? You could you can book any match and it was still gonna be a good match because everybody had established characters, everybody had subplots that were just as interesting. Like, who cannot say, yes, the heavyweight title is gonna be the main thing you should focus on? But we really like this storyline that's going on for Mark Henry and Mae Young. Like, that's it's my CTV. Everything about the attitude era was pop culture related. You didn't have to be a wrestling fan, but you knew about wrestling in some way, shape, or form. And we can still probably have that art argument today with current wrestling, but it was something about the attitude era that you it was to me personally the peak of wrestling overall. Like, yes, we have different peaks, but the attitude era was just the absolute boom. This is the highest the stratosphere is, and everything afterwards is like we're trying to match that energy, but sometimes those errors don't make sense to that. So that's why I say the ruthless era aggression, uh, the ruthless era. I keep saying that, but the ruthless era is really the core six people that were the main people of that era to me. And I was saying Ada Guerrero, John Cena, uh Rey Mysterio, Batista, a little bit of Orton, you know, and of course, crisp and wah, but that's the that's the thing that puts a nail in the tire is what pops the whole thing. Crisp and wah, you cannot do in a ruthless regress the ruthless regression era without him. You just can't, and it's very difficult to do that. So my my question to you and our question to the audience do you think ruthless the ruthless era deserves its own game? And could it could it motivate people to actually buy it?

The Chris Benoit Problem

SPEAKER_01 8:07

Well, a couple of things. So let me first say, um, yes, it could have its own game, but no, I don't think it has, it's not going to do the same kind of numbers. So people it's f real funny how there's this whole going back and forth about which era was the best era, you know what I'm saying? Like they people love to say that we're just so overstimulated with uh nostalgia, and that's why you think the attitude era was so so good, kind of thing. And there could be some warrant for that, but what always gets me is the fact that those of us who believe the attitude era is as good as it is, we give our reasons. The people who often, at least the ones who I've heard the arguments for, they never give the argument of why this other era was better. All they do is say, no, the attitude era was not. They don't say, nah, nah, nah, nah. The the PG era was absolutely the best because John Cena and and Kate, Daniel Ryan, you know, and all the like the team hell no, you know, stuff like that. And so, but it but it instead, they're just like, no, add to era wasn't that good. Like, who who cared about Val Venus or the the Mark Henry thing was was stupid kind of thing? And I mean, like, yeah, the rock was okay, but the rock was overrated. You're a real most people are often just like giving their reasons why they just why I guess they themselves don't like the attitude era. They're not giving a reason why the attitude era was not as good as another one. You know what I'm saying? And so as far as the other thing that you mentioned, just lightly touching on everything here, I don't think, or I should say, I believe, if you wanted to do the whole ruthless aggression edition of uh 2K whatever insert year here, I feel it can be done without Crispin Wall. The only problem is there's a lot of stories that can't be told.

SPEAKER_03 11:20

I know you can't do the Eddie moment at WrestleMania, which is the that is that that was the moment it came to Yes, that was a very significant moment, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:32

Somewhere in storage, I actually still have the uh the magazine. That's dope. Which, funny enough, I mean, the magazine's mine because you gave it to me, but it's technically your magazine.

SPEAKER_03 11:43

Oh shit, I know which one. Oh my god, yo, yo. WWE.com magazines were so they were so dope to get posters from them back in the day. Oh yeah, those were Did we get that in the Ruthless era?

SPEAKER_01 11:57

Well, I mean, t technically, yeah. What are you talking? I'm playing, I'm not playing with that. What do you mean? I'm literally talking about one of the biggest things that happened in the ruthless aggression era. Yeah, and I the the magazine anyway. But like it would suck to do that though, because it's like Kurt Engel talks about it all the time. How some of his best matches and some of the best things that he's done included and was with or against Chris Criminal.

SPEAKER_03 12:36

The submission match, though the match that made the submission match a credible match, by the way. You know what I'm saying? Like nobody else really did it after, except uh was it was it Bailey?

SPEAKER_04 12:50

No, they just didn't actually I don't do you remember anybody else that didn't submission like that.

SPEAKER_01 12:57

I mean, there's been some here and there. Like I think Charlotte's had one before. I gotta check that out, actually. But like, but no, you're I mean, I I you're not wrong on that. Uh but it's like I believe it can be done, but they're never going to do it because the fans will not like the fact he's not in it. No one's going to buy it like that. Oh, okay. You meant that. I don't think the fans will give, you know, one way or another if Crispin was in it. Uh or I should say the fact that he's not in it. If they put him in it, that would be crazy to do. Because unlike Superfly Snooker, Crispin Ra has been proven that he did it.

SPEAKER_03 13:48

So you know, and that is a conversation that I feel like it could be really, it could it can get really messy because you know no matter what, he did what he did. And uh some people may feel crossed by it, some people feel like well don't throw away you know memories of that caliber because of something he did. It's a lot of like a man who who who dedicated himself to the business. Like all he knew was wrestling, all he did was wrestling, right? He didn't he didn't get a job at a theater or nothing as a kid. No, he went straight into that. So the thing he put a 100% in, he has nothing to show for it. His legacy is is nothing, unless for the the the the for the wrestling fans who keep it in their mind. But in historical, like it's not even existing.

SPEAKER_01 14:46

Unfortunately, no. And and and it is unfortunate that it has to be that particular way. Yeah. But it's one of those things where at the end of the day, if you can, you know, I would say if you put that to the side, yeah, real ones know and real ones understand.

SPEAKER_03 15:04

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:05

Like, you know, uh what he was and how good he was, it's just unfortunate that he tarnished it.

SPEAKER_00 15:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:12

At the end of the day. Now, of course, you know, whether of what it was that ultimately caused it, the, you know, caused the tarnishment, you know, that that's neither here nor there. It's just the fact that incident happened, and that's how it's gonna be. Just like with Hulk Hogan. There are people out there who don't think Hulk Hogan was racist. Then there's people out there who swears up a doubt he was the most racist motherfucker on this guy, green earth. The unfortunate bit is the fact that he did what he did. He did not do anything to show otherwise. Therefore, his legacy has been tarnished to certain people because of that particular bit. And he has to take that to the grave with him. Just like how Chris Bemoir has to take his situation to the grave with him.

When Each WWE Era Really Starts

SPEAKER_03 15:54

And it's unfortunately he had to do that and never made up for that. Oh, talking about Hogan now, um, in that situation, because you brought that up, because he had a chance to fix it, and he he did. And so for somebody like Chris Benoit, who is technically a one-and-done situation is what it is, but to get back into the main thing about making a ruthless aggression era mode for the game. I mean, it depends on when we would consider the end of the era.

SPEAKER_01 16:30

The end of the era would be when they went when they finally went full speed into PG. Now, of course, I don't have the exact time frame of that, but like there is a distinct difference between when the PG era started and then when the Ruthless era was going on.

SPEAKER_03 16:47

Would you say because I'm thinking in my brain, it was around the time because like wouldn't we would we consider PG era the the Super Sena era?

SPEAKER_01 17:03

That could be another word for it.

SPEAKER_03 17:05

Yeah, I could have sworn that was the Super Sena era in a in a sense of what PG was because he became the ultimate thing that led the PG era.

SPEAKER_01 17:15

So according to WWE, or I'm sorry, according to our Google Overlords here, uh uh it says that the PG era, uh, it says generally spans from July 2008. I was gonna say 2013, yeah. To roughly 2013-14. Yeah, no. That is the time span of the PG era. Yeah. Now, let's see here. Let's see.

SPEAKER_03 17:48

So that means Rufless would have started 200 uh 2001 or two. What was like 2001 or two? Somewhere in that area. Because the attitude era was most of the was half of the 90s leading into 21.

SPEAKER_01 18:08

Did you just look up WrestleMania instead of the? So what I no, what well what I was looking up here was specifically the WrestleMania, the last WrestleMania before the uh the PG era is considered to have started. And this kind of checks. So that WrestleMania. Go for it. Funny enough, is actually one of my favorite WrestleManias because I was there at this one. This was the Ric Flair one, right? Yes, when Ric Flair retired.

SPEAKER_03 18:36

That was a good pay-per-view, though, I thought. Oh no, it was a great pay-per-view. Yeah, no, that's a good pay-per-view. But didn't Cena just win the belt then? I think so. If okay, that would make sense why that would begin the PG era because the minute Cena gets the title. That's hilarious. You should just look up the card.

SPEAKER_01 18:57

No, I have I'm looking at that here for the the the the uh the actual WrestleMania. However, I'm trying to think what because I want to say there was a point because I think John Cena, if I'm not mistaken, yeah, he wins the He wins the title there, and then that again he ends up becoming Shawn Michaels. But like it's but that's like Oh, he beat Shawn Michaels there, then this was April. So let me see here. I'm gonna actually type in. I'm gonna say uh WWE 2000.

SPEAKER_03 19:35

It was 200. 2002 would have been the last year almost.

SPEAKER_01 19:42

Okay, give me a second here. Because there's something specific I'm trying to see if I can find.

SPEAKER_03 19:48

Is it a moment in time?

SPEAKER_01 19:51

There is a particular moment in time that I was trying to figure out.

SPEAKER_03 19:55

Could you could you refresh my memory that way I can maybe help you?

SPEAKER_01 19:59

Oh, okay. Knight of Champions was in June. Uh, let's see here. Uh, key moment, let's see here. I put uh I put uh pretty much I just put June 2008 WWE. And so I guess during that time was when Knight of Champions. Knight of Champions was on the 29th of June. Uh let's see here. Uh key moments include CM Punk winning the world heavyweight title from Triple H. Uh, and then uh it says Triple H moves to SmackDown and Jericho feuds with Shawn Michaels.

SPEAKER_03 20:35

Oh, you mean like key storylines? Maybe look that up. Key storylines.

SPEAKER_01 20:38

Hold on, let me see here. Well, specifically Knight of Champions. Uh Triple H beats John Cena for the uh WWE title. Edge beat Batista for the heavyweight title, uh ECW match Mark Henry beats Big Show and Kane becoming the new ECW champion. This was all considered the ruthless era? This was the beginning of the ruthless aggression era. Oh okay. Because like I said, like it said June, July was kind of like the start of the ruthless aggression era.

SPEAKER_03 21:13

Yeah, that's when ECWs. Uh yeah. I know. This no.

SPEAKER_01 21:21

Or at least that this is no, this is the the it beginning of the PG era.

SPEAKER_03 21:25

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But still, like before that. That means ECW at one point was still a brand and still actively going. Yeah, ECW is still actively going. I mean, we probably got stuck, we still get Durag Vince. We still get the leg, the legend that is do-rag Vince. What up, G?

SPEAKER_00 21:43

What's up, Holmes?

SPEAKER_01 21:45

John Cena versus Umaga in a street fight. I remember that.

SPEAKER_03 21:49

That see, yeah, that was before the because the PG era is again when Super Cena started, right? So this era of Cena was still good. It was after that.

SPEAKER_01 21:59

So I actually think. Think it's literally, I think for me it's literally the next year, which is to like 2009 era, because I remember myself still being cool with John Cena during this time, but it was when, and I do if I'm not see I'll have to I'm gonna have to pick it up again and look, because like what did it for me, the birth of Super Cena was when he ripped his bicep and he was gone. Oh, that Royal Rumble, yeah, that godlike, bro. Which I'm trying, I can't, I don't remember which Royal Rumble it is. I'm gonna have to look at it.

SPEAKER_03 22:39

I think it was literally that next year because then like it was when you started seeing Super Cena stuff happen. Man ripped his bicep, wasn't supposed to be in nothing, not even in mania, and that man's training was so out of this world, he was able to fix that. And that was crazy. It was like the fact that his music hit at that rumble, it wasn't supposed to happen. So I've I genuinely feel like even backstage, not backstage, but like the guys in the ring were just shocked. Almost kind of like they were trying to do uh don't tell anybody who number 30 is, and it's a secret person, but that person's gonna win. That person's going over.

SPEAKER_01 23:28

Oh, I had it backwards. What oh no, then no, this was definitely the oh, maybe it is. Okay, so no, John C actually he so he ripped his bicep. Goes trying to remember all this shit. He ripped his bicep in 2007, October 2007. So it was during 2008 when he had that Royal Rumble and he came back and did all this stuff, which now I'm now that I'm remembering the picture that I just saw of when he was at WrestleMania, when he had the the orange royalty respect.

SPEAKER_03 24:03

Wasn't that the jersey he wore at that Royal Rumble too? Correct.

SPEAKER_01 24:06

But I do believe, I'm pretty certain it's probably the absolute next year when John Cena became like ridiculously undeniable because I remember there was like like because back then that was what because like shortly after that is when he started wearing like the real bright colored shirts and all the other shit. But uh but the thing that I want to get at and and and talk on when it comes to the uh Ruthless Aggression era. Well, just all eras versus the attitude era. Go ahead and lay it on them. The issue the I think that the the main issue is the fact that when you look at the ruthless aggression era and then you look at the PG era, right? It's really hard to sell anything or anyone on anybody on those two eras because for all intents and purposes, a lot of people that was in one era, the ruthless aggression era, are kind of the same people who are running Rub Shot in the PG era with just a couple of attitude era people being plucked out of it, kind of thing. And it's like the attitude era has so many memorable moments because they had lots and lots of entertaining stories that were going on as where these other eras they do have some good moments. There's a lot of great moments that happened within the ruthless aggression era. There's a some there's decent moments that happened in the PG era, but it's like those stories don't hold as strong as what the attitude era stories do.

SPEAKER_03 26:10

Literally, like I said before, everything the Attitude Era was producing was must-see TV.

SPEAKER_01 26:17

Yes, and that and that is also a big piece of it all. Must see TV. The Ruthless Aggression era was not a lot of must-see TV. There are some great must see moments that did take place in this ruthless aggression era, but not every episode of SmackDown and Raw and then a little bit of ECW was remotely musty, maybe out of two, three different segments. You know what I'm saying? Like during that time, from what I remember when watching it, it's like, yes, we watched the whole show, but if you had your favorite wrestlers, you was waiting for your favorite wrestler segment.

SPEAKER_03 27:04

That's it, yeah. And I and that's what that was the main thing you paid attention to. And that's the main thing I feel even now, man. Like watching New Japan, I'm like, all right, let me cool, let me watch Ice. Let me get to his match. And then, all right, cool. What else is going on? I guess, I guess, you know, I watched the show.

SPEAKER_01 27:24

Uh those ruthless aggression times, I was paying attention to whatever Kay was doing, whatever Undertaker was doing, whatever was going on with Randy Orton, and uh and and hating and wishing whoever was going up against evolution or edge, they would fucking beat them. Because I couldn't. So it would be evolution and edge. Whoever would beat Evolution or Edge, because those two were, well, first it was Evolution, then later on, Radar Superstar Edge.

SPEAKER_03 27:56

Are we talking about the version where he had Lita or are we talking about it? Period. Okay. I could not stand Edge. All right. He was he was a bit of a tire, bro. Like he was, I could not stand that. He was doing good heel work, though. Like as a heel, you you had to hate him. He he felt like thug, like a thug boss, in-game boss, who just kept fucking with you the whole game.

SPEAKER_01 28:24

And now that we're actually saying this out loud here, I feel as if that's also another problem.

SPEAKER_03 28:32

Being edge being so dominant. No. Follow me.

SPEAKER_01 28:38

When you look at the characters and the people that we had in that and the roof in the in the attitude era, right? And the stuff that they did and all that, whatnot, you know, most of those people, a large majority of the people who are promoted for that time frame, they're either still working in WWE or they really don't wrestle anymore. Edge is an extremely important piece to the ruthless aggression era. Or even or even the PG era. All right. Edge is actually Adam Copeland. Copeland works in AEW right now. So does Christian. There's a couple of people who we really can't Jericho AEW. And Jericho is fucking important to that.

SPEAKER_02 29:50

God damn.

SPEAKER_01 29:52

Oh, big show. And honestly, AEW.

SPEAKER_03 29:56

Big show is has really important. Uh me see here. Oh, gold dust. Cause he would booger tea. That was a big part of the ruthless aggression era. Wow. Whoa.

SPEAKER_01 30:20

Now, of course, this is me guessing and assuming. But I feel that those would be problems as to why we can't just do that. You know what I'm saying? Unless we're unless they're willing to be like, hey, now, granted, maybe they can still finagle it because we're still able to put Sting.

SPEAKER_03 30:45

Well, no, Sting is technically in, I think, a Legends contract with AEW, maybe, but like Sting was in it.

SPEAKER_01 30:55

What do you mean?

SPEAKER_03 30:56

Are you talking about for Sting is in the Attitude Era game, right? So Sting was a part of the Attitude Era, technically.

SPEAKER_01 31:03

Yes, because they're doing because they own the WCW stuff. Ah.

SPEAKER_03 31:08

And technically that means they own Sting. Okay, never mind. Let me shut up. Yeah, there's there is a there's like a shared thing with them. Well, then technically they should be able to still use them because they own the rights to whatever WWE's product is.

SPEAKER_01 31:24

But why would they put Edge in one of their games while he is in AEW? You're correct. I'm just saying if they want to say a legend legend like Sting is different. Especially since he's ultimately not really wrestling anymore. Sure, he ended his career in AEW, but it's like Sting's not moving the dial for nobody right now. You know what I'm saying? Like, now granted, I've been seeing screen caps, and I don't know how true these screen caps are, but like, because like I saw like pictures where they showed like Bobby Lashley was in the wrestling game. In the Attitude Era? Yes. Oh, he wouldn't have been a part of the Attitude Era, though. Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 32:14

Unless he wasn't even in the roster.

SPEAKER_01 32:17

So, like I said, I've seen some weird screen caps, and I don't know if these are just people like well, well because like have you ever seen the screen cap where it showed like main event mafia? Yeah, well, here's the thing though.

SPEAKER_03 32:28

Uh maybe what they could have been using was previous, because again, it's 2K who's making it, and they're also keeping all of the the archives of a character.

SPEAKER_01 32:43

No, you could be right. And that's and I only know that because there's a guy who's on Twitter who I always see him posting shit, and somehow, like, he just knows how to break the code because they don't take the code out of the game. So it's like oh archive stuff, yep. Yeah, so it's like he like breaks the code and like like for instance in the like what was it? The one of the other wrestling games. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 33:06

When they took Brock Lesnar out, or when they took uh Brock Lesnar out of yeah, this one or the the recent one and put America Americano in there? You talking about that?

SPEAKER_01 33:17

No, no, well, not even that, just the fact like Brock Lesnar was Scott, sorry, like they was going to put they was going to have Brock Lesnar in the game, and then when all the trial shit started going on, they took him out of the game where you could not play as that r as his character. But his character was his data was still in the game, kind of thing. And so once again, like I've been like, you know, you can't believe shit on the internet no more, but it's like I've seen people like posting, like I've I've seen these pictures, like what it was like like you see like everyone from main event mafia on the game. And so I'm like, I don't know if I don't know if it's true. It's TNA, yeah, but they also have the partnership with TNA now. Well, they had the partnership with TNA while all this that's why Abyss was on the last game. I figured that was because the partnership with TNA was already going on strong back in that particular time frame. And so, like, I like I said, I don't have the game yet. Granted, I know a lucky son of a bitch who got a game, but I ain't gonna put him on the spot like that right now. Mr. hit me up and be like, yo, guess who got me the game?

SPEAKER_03 34:27

That is a flex, though, bro. That's kind of wild. I wouldn't tell no damn body. I was like, oh, damn shit. I'd be like, yo, how did when'd you get the game? Oh, I just I just got it, you know what I'm saying? I ain't gonna lie, I'm a little bit of a hater, but hey, you know. I'd have been like, I bought it. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 34:40

Anyway, but um Going back into the but I feel that like that could play as I think about it now, especially with the way the landscape is right now. I feel as if that that probably is playing a big role as to why ultimately we don't have a you know a fucking ruthless aggression era. Because many people many people who are in the ruthless aggression era are in different companies, are in different companies. Like who who else is in like John Morrison is in Mexico right now, he's in uh triple uh no, he's in CMML, yes, which by way of AEW because he's actually an AEW wrestler. Oh you see the dilemma.

SPEAKER_03 35:34

MVP, Bobby Lashley, Shelton Benjamin, ain't no stock, come on, and then Pope, he's well Pope could be usable, but he's only like in a small segment.

SPEAKER_01 35:51

But but that I think might play a big role as to why, because with the way that this landscape is, they would have to be for them to be able I feel as I think it's for them to want to be able to push a thing that was like that, they need to either have these people on the roster on contract or something, or they'd have to be on some they have to be on some kind of contract so that they can avoid, yeah, you know, aka there they they have to be able to get WWE money, but because they're getting majority of these people are getting the AEW monies right now, because they're all eight, most of these guys are over an AEW. I feel as if number one, WE doesn't want to push no AEW talent. Not one. And so it's like and it's like WWE acts like they don't want any of their wrestlers to be associated with anything related to AEW. You know, that's the reason why uh uh uh Nakamura couldn't go to the final thing. Yeah, we found it out. Yeah, he they don't want any s there was the connection because they didn't want any kind of connection with WWE and goddamn AEW. The rivalry is that thick. Bloods versus Crips in the wrestling game, bro. It's that it's that heavy, and so it's because of that there are a lot more things that they can do and use with the attitude era because most of those wrestlers are either still employed by WWE. Well, Billy Gunn's an AEW. True, but I also think Billy Billy Gunn is one of those people who can get the buy because he probably has a triple H dample approval. You know what I'm saying? You know, there's there's some there are some people who kind of can weasel their way by, and it's like, and there's but it's like there's a lot more that could they can do with the attitude era people than otherwise. They can dance around certain things.

SPEAKER_03 38:03

Sure, Big Show was around in the Attitude Era, but there's like there's less of a like, okay, we could take a slap on the wrist for this one, like a big show, a gold dust, or a billy gun. Because they're like, while they're technically legends a part of that era, they are not as big as a big thing.

SPEAKER_01 38:24

Yeah, they're not they're not moving the dial on AEW. Yeah, well, they're not even that, but like it's well well that well, sure, that that they're not maybe they may not have been as super big of star. Yeah, they weren't like in everything, but at the same time, though, they are because like I said, for those who are on AEW, of those people who was from the ad from the actual attitude era, Big Show and Billy Gunn, like Goldust. Big Show, Billy Gunn, and Gold Dust, you know. Chris Jericho, sorry.

SPEAKER_03 38:52

Jericho, kinda. He was there, he was 1990, and he won the belt from Triple H.

SPEAKER_01 38:59

Sh okay. But um I mean, sure.

SPEAKER_03 39:03

All right, but like he started there, he he became a thing in the ruthless era aggression, but continue on.

SPEAKER_01 39:09

Yeah, he's I I would I kind of pay him more towards that ruthless aggression spot myself, but and and when we think about attitude era, we're talking like core attitude era, you know what I'm saying? Which is that that nine late 96 to like the end of like like that like that 99.

SPEAKER_03 39:28

Early 2000, because technically 2000 was WrestleMania 17, and that's when it actually ended. The day when he shook Stone Cole shook hands with Vince. That is the actual end of the attitude era.

SPEAKER_01 39:41

Is is that what they're is that what is being considered?

SPEAKER_03 39:44

Is that is that the universal I mean you could look at I mean look it up real quick just to just to fact check me because I mean most people say that because that the minute Stone Cole shakes hands with Vince, that that was the whole the era was those two, like granted everything else, but like the era of attitude was really Vince and Stone Cole, and the minute that happened, I don't think the attitude era continued. So 2002.

SPEAKER_01 40:21

Well, I guess you must be somewhere in that spot because according to the Google Overlord themselves, uh, they said the attitude era officially ended on May 6, 2002. Um, you know what? What I mean they do bring up uh some it says some fans consider WrestleMania 17 uh a uh to be the true ending, but what they consider the ending of the attitude era is when we went from WWF to WWE. Okay, that's it's kind of valid, which is which I I could actually kind of co-sign on.

SPEAKER_03 41:10

I really I truly feel if I'm gonna be really real, the day that John Cena said ruthless aggression, that was the beginning. I I truly feel like because remember, when Vince said the wrestling had an attitude now, that is when it started, and the ruthless aggression era really started when Cena said the word. That's why they made it that era.

SPEAKER_01 41:34

I mean, sh sure one can say, yeah. I I don't necessarily sway either way in it kind of thing. I mean, because for all intents and purposes, the one that you're saying, which is apparently what everyone else says, you know, whatever day WrestleMania was in April, May is literally specifically May 6th, aka a month after WrestleMania is when WWF became WWE.

SPEAKER_03 42:05

And so so there's so technically, so technically it's like it's my my statement is not wrong, but in all reality, whenever the F was taken out is when it became the ruthless aggression era, because granted the the WrestleMania storyline-wise ended the attitude era, so chronologically, it ended with Stone Cold shaking Vince's hand, but on paper, it was that man. I could see it being that definitely can see it was like uh you solidified it here at this pay-per-view, you stamped and notarized it May, May 6th. That that would be kind of the thing there, I feel like, but regardless, you would say that certain character, certain key characters of the ruthless aggression era game are either all in different promotions, so therefore it makes it difficult to have them in the game outside of yes, you have the the daunting nature of something like a crisp and nois present. But what makes it difficult for the ruthless aggression era game to happen is because there's so many factors or so many um bumps on the road to make it happen because of wrestlers and where they are.

Get The F Out Folder Story

SPEAKER_01 43:34

So, real quick, which is actually interesting, the timeline of all these things, right? So if uh if run if that WrestleMania was supposed to be where a lot of people consider the true ending of the attitude era, uh, and then literally that month later is when uh Uh we drop the F and we put and it becomes WWE, which there's actually I have a quick funny story about that from when I was a kid. Uh the John Cena's famous ruthless aggression thing that he said. So if we became WWE in May 6th, literally June 27th is when John Cena's ruthless aggression. So for all intents and purposes, Stamp Noturide, May 6th. Stamp notaride. June 23rd. June 27th, whatever it was. So it's like, yeah, it was it was very quickly when all that kind of just it all changed literally like month, month, month. Within a three-month area, we transitioned from uh attitude to ruthless aggression. And then the and the funny story that I have is when this is going on, I was a kid going to the Boys and Girls Club. And I remember they made us, we got to make like these like, I guess like they gave us like this, like these plain white folders that we could do, and we can like draw on them and everything. And I made this super dope folder art of the the WWE symbol kind of thing. And me not thinking bad on it, I made it, and at the bottom it says, get the F out. Because that was the slogan. WWE, get the F out, because we're getting rid of that got you. Well, I yeah. Well, it got me in trouble because someone was a fucking hater and told on me, and then they pulled me aside, and I'm like, I'm and let it be no, I'm like, why am I getting chestised and everything? And then somebody, one of the other people, like one of the other heads, like the the the seniors there, they were like, they came and backed me up. They're like, no, no, no, don't yell at him. He watches wrestling and they explain, and he even showed them it's this it's a whole and so then they're like, Oh now they got me all like in my feelings and sad and shit, you know, like I done like committed the worst crime on God's green earth.

SPEAKER_03 46:27

Like, get the out on your folder.

SPEAKER_01 46:30

But yeah, but it literally just says, and it's like in the and I did like in the cool attitude era font and shit, get the letter F out because it's WWE, and so yeah, they made a big fucking deal about it. And I like I got in trouble, and then they were like, Oh, I'm uh I am so sorry. I we didn't mean to at this point my feelings are already fucking hurt. I'm like sobbing and crying and shit because I'm sensitive and I'm like, I never get in trouble. I swear I'm a fucking good kid. Like, I didn't I didn't mean to, you know. I could see this right now. Oh man, bro. Terrible, it was crazy, bro. That's terrible. It fucked my day because at that point I'm like, I don't want to play no game. Like, I don't even want I don't even want to be like, I don't even want to fucking be here to begin with. Like, fuck the boys and girls club.

SPEAKER_03 47:16

Like, I don't know I just want to go home play the game. That's all I wanted to fucking do. I I hated I hated activities after school like that. Granted, I was in court.

SPEAKER_01 47:24

This wasn't even after school, this was during the summer. Oh, was it the summers I went there? Yeah, no, no. This you were still here. Oh, we like we we would hang out on the weekends, but because my was enrolled in the boys and girls club. We couldn't hang out during the weekday. No, because I That was stupid. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. I fucking hated that. Yeah, bro, that's stupid. We could have been hanging out like a couple of years. I'm pretty certain it was the year after that when you ended up leaving for Florida.

Wrestling Banned At Home Then Internet Now

SPEAKER_03 47:53

Uh worst time ever, man. Those summers, those, those, those years are rough on my life. But man, that's that's goofy. Regardless, I'm sorry that you had to experience that. Um It's okay. It made me the better person. It's not bad, it's not worse than when I my my uh stepmom forced me to not watch wrestling anymore because I had to use wrestling to defend myself against my stepbrothers, and she didn't like that. So uh she was like, wrestling is very violent, apparently, because you keep fighting your brothers, and I was like, Because they keep being fucking dicks, you know what I'm saying? Like they were being assholes when we were growing up.

SPEAKER_01 48:35

Because I caused this, I caused the same situation to happen to Kyle because I brought Kyle into wrestling, and then once he got he got super into it like we are, yeah, and uh so he watched it all the time with me, and so I uh he ended up getting his brothers into wrestling, but even though Kyle wasn't necessarily the bigger of his two brothers, yeah, he was definitely the strongest. Okay. And Kyle constantly got in trouble for beating the shit out of his brother.

SPEAKER_03 49:15

Bro, my dad actually wanted to call the police on his child for defending himself against his his brothers.

SPEAKER_01 49:23

That's crazy. It got so bad to the point where literally Kyle was no, he was not he wasn't allowed to watch wrestling. He wasn't allowed to play the wrestling game. Yeah, that was tough for me too. I was like, no, Kyle, what did you I think like I swear he he like he I swear he like fucking like power bombed like one of his brothers one time and like and it like it really hurt him as like you know how it's like when you do the wrestling move on your friend, they like it's like you got it from wrestling, you can't watch it no more. They you know the the fake cry goes to a real cry, and now it's yeah, it it was a big situation. It was like damn, and and he was like, Yeah, no, wrestling's banned in the house. No, we don't watch that shit no more.

SPEAKER_03 50:07

Yeah, yeah. I was like, damn. So for a while, for a while it was that, and then I couldn't play wrestling games, but wrestling games were the only things I had, so she would be like, all right, cool. I would have to watch how you act after playing these wrestling games. So yeah, like she was like, All right, let me just see where it is, and then so I couldn't watch it again because it was too sexual. Because this is when Sable was around, and Sable was doing her stuff, so as you know, stepmom walks in the room, this is too sexual. Oh, come on, bro. Like, yeah, right, we ain't actually seeing bits, you know what I'm saying? Right now, on the internet, kids can see complete it and and and also Poontang Pie.

SPEAKER_01 50:52

But we as we just got cleavage, but you go on the internet and see that shit for free nowadays, and that's we're not even talking about corn without even having to declare to anything, Chris.

SPEAKER_03 51:04

Yeah, you don't even gotta go to corn sites, you can just straight up go to Instagram. Oh, she's wearing a see-through top, and I see for free, okay.

SPEAKER_01 51:14

Listen, it's good to know. Listen, all it takes is to like one or two of the right videos, and you find yourself in the watching it in in in in the crazy TikTok. Mm-hmm. I haven't I've I found myself there one time, and it lasts for about a week. It's like it's like once you get into that area, I remember cartel pushes you out. Wait, cartel tick tock.

SPEAKER_03 51:38

You never heard about cartel tick tock? This is a time where they were actually showing videos from like stuff that was happening in the cartel. So like you were getting videos of like shipments and people dying and shit. There was a there was an algorithm that was cartel tick tock. You should look that shit up, bro. It was a wild time.

Money Talks Legends Contracts And AI Voices

SPEAKER_01 51:57

Algorithms are wild out here in these streets, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, when it overall, I would say the main my my my new theory on the reasons why is because people who are in the ruthless aggression era, or even if you want to call the PG era, you know, those two eras, either a lot of those people are still wrestling and they're wrestling for other companies. And people who are in the wrestling games, I'm pretty certain they get some kind of compensation for showing up in the game. Yeah, putting their likeness in the game. And if they're going to do that, they're going to try and do it the cheapest way possible so they don't have to pay for fucking everybody. Yeah. And so, what is one of the easiest ones to do? The golden era. Why? Because a lot of them don't wrestle anymore. Or they dead. Or they're dead. RIP to the best ones. Yes. And so it's like, because they don't have to pay the dead. Well, they do have to pay the families, the likeness of the families. And even then, they don't really gotta pay a whole bunch. Nope. Because they'll take any kind of especially considering the fact that, you know, there is also that piece that they do just own their names. Yeah. Especially of those particular people. But then, like, for the ones who are still alive, yeah, sure, they're gonna throw them a little bit of bone. And and especially if they were like important, like demolition or nothing of Jimmy Hart. Or anything like that. No, he, of course, he didn't, bro. Okay, okay. I didn't check. I didn't check. Oh, no, no. He is on one of the covers, bruv.

SPEAKER_03 53:40

Oh, yeah, you're right.

SPEAKER_01 53:41

Because they're also because, and that's the other reason why I'm like, one of the ways they got their little loophole in there is Paul White wasn't always the big show. He used to be the giant in WCW. Owns that, and he doesn't have to say nothing to you. Now, of course, if they wanted to, which I'm sure they probably would, they'd be like, hey, oh, big show, you're good for it. We'll slide you a couple of bones.

SPEAKER_03 54:08

I think that's also, again, a triple H thing because those were his boys back in the Attitude Era. So throwing Billy Gunn, a big show, possibly a Jericho, a bone. I don't know if they're the relationship, but definitely trickling down. Some of them, I don't even think.

SPEAKER_01 54:25

Yeah, there's certain there's certain people who I'm sure that they, you know, like, regardless of where they're at, went down these roads. WWE will, you know, cause because they're like well, I wouldn't say grandfathered in, but like, you know, they were they're very special to it's a family. It's a family. But you know, that that that would be like if they was going to do this and they're like, yeah, we're not gonna put JR in here. Bullshit, you're not. Yeah, that's impossible to say no to that, but he was he's one of the big reasons why you had to watch it. Like, like, like like in this, whatever, whatever they have in this game, there better be some fucking JR. So, what if Jr works for AEW? You cannot give me attitude era without JR and the King.

SPEAKER_03 55:09

And then here's the thing about it, too, they don't even have to actually use them. And in because no, it's not even that. You could just literally AI their their voices.

SPEAKER_01 55:20

Now, I don't know if they go and do that.

SPEAKER_03 55:22

I'm just saying you could. If you can't, like, say if JR and King are no longer here in this earth, right? You still have the ability to AI their voices and then have them say certain things in the game. We have technology now that yes, your likeness does not have to be present. We could AI your voice. Could should? I don't think so. Probably not, right? Will in the future, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 55:50

Uh-uh. Yeah, that definitely happened at some point. I'm probably but that that's that that now 2030, maybe. I don't care what year it is, but like once once we start AIing people's voices into video games, that's when shit gets a little crazy and a little weird for me.

SPEAKER_03 56:13

But I mean, sure, I guess you could say AI is the future, but I'm just saying, if you want to keep a JR in it, like if they want to do hypothetically speaking, they do another add-it two era game and they want to put JR's commentary in the game, but he's no longer with us, right? You still want to have that. Oh my god, it's a slobber knock. Yes, you could use the audio bits, but at I'm just saying, if they want to do small things, no, absolutely not.

SPEAKER_01 56:40

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_03 56:41

I well say what if they what if they wanted to have JR do commentary for current wrestlers?

SPEAKER_01 56:47

Absolutely not. Okay, okay. We we use we utilize JR while we got him right now, and when he passes, let his voice rest. Okay, okay. I don't, I don't AI is fun, and I don't mind using it for these cool entertainment purposes, but if I'm in my 80s and I'm and I'm watching my great grandkids play, you know, 2K X two thousand two 2K75 and whatnot, and I hear JR talking about oh, it's it's LA Knight Jr. Jr. No, fuck no, fuck no, get out of here.

SPEAKER_00 57:33

It's the resurgence of Kane and Undertaker and their children.

SPEAKER_01 57:37

No, fuck no, get out of here, stop it with this bullshit AI stuff, alright? Don't do that, don't do that.

SPEAKER_03 57:48

Don't no I can understand that. Well, I think regardless of if it's the ruthless aggression era or any other era, it's the map it's the fact that there are so many factors that make it difficult because the attitude era, again, what being what it is, you will never get a golden the golden era game. You'll never get a Federation year game. And the attitude era is the only era where anybody can pick that up and say, Y'all, I'll take this. If you had any other choice like of an era, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 58:42

Well, that's the problem, because like I I mean, for all intents of per there's really there are only two eras that WW make money off of. The golden era or the attitude era. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 58:55

Even do you do you think also that it maybe maybe in a couple of years from now, maybe like in the next 10, 20 years or something like that, maybe because these wrestlers are still active and still present, and just like how you said the golden era half them is dead, so like we could just use them, no problem.

SPEAKER_01 59:16

Us rape. Maybe like there's a part of me that feels like maybe years down the line the the ruthless aggression era might become more of a thing that they can start thinking of wanting to use. But I also don't know. It's kind of hard to say, because like I don't think there's any across all the eras, I don't think there's any lack of star power. Oh, that's that's a fact.

Why The Attitude Era Hit Different

SPEAKER_03 59:48

It's not it's it's not that at all. Like it's not that at all.

SPEAKER_01 59:51

The people who was white hot throughout the this ruthless aggression era, I think are as equally hot with the attitude era, but I just think it's just because of the way that the attitude era was as a whole, and how you know, because when you also look at these two eras, what makes the attitude era so like serious is the fact that the guys who were there they were fighting for a purpose and a reason.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:26

They had to do it for their jobs, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:28

Or they literally this game that came out, it's they have the reason why the attitude era was so hot because they was going up against WCW. And that's literally what this game has.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:41

You have both sides of the coin that you can see, and you can't even really say that for the ruthless aggression era because TNA, while it was a thing, it was not going against WWE, no, and it couldn't go against WWE.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:55

Like they tried to go up against it, and it almost killed them to try and go up against it. And so because T WWE did not see them as an actual threat kind of thing, you know, it was during those times where it's like, yes, things were actively happening. Uh Eddie Guerrero was doing his thing, you know what I'm saying? John Cena was on his rise, Kurt Engel was at his peak, you know, and um, you know, we had American Badass Undertaker, Brock Lesnar was becoming what he was becoming kind of thing. Big evil. We had the most uh devastating uh version of Kane who existed during that time.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:39

We had the Armageddon Hell in a Cell. Like Way wasn't that 21 at 2001, excuse me. I think that was 2001. Yeah, that was that too early. Never mind, say man.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:48

But like, so it's like there were things that did exist that were really good, and there was a lot of stars. Batista, Randy Orton, like these are all people who made their names in the ruthless aggression era kind of thing. But it's like there's there was always there, there was always like a small lacking that can't quite encompass the same shine as what the other era has. Yeah. And I think that's one of the reasons that because also during the Ruthless Aggression era, a lot of people who did like to watch wrestling stopped watching wrestling during that time frame.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:34

Yeah, they did, because it just wasn't as hot.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:37

And so, and it's like when the people who are now coming to watch wrestling, you know, those people have skipped the ruthless aggression in the PG era, and it's like, well, why should we like wrestling? And the people who are here, who's been here through it all, we're all pointing to look at the attitude era. And that's why we're at where we're at. Because, like, if we are the quote unquote 40-year-old old heads, you know, who are like who are like the the ones who are mainly watching the wrestling, yes, we're buying the game because we love the attitude era. When we bring new people to watch wrestling, what do we do? We show them the hell in a cell match in the attitude era, we show them Undertaker and Kane from the attitude era. We show them DX from the attitude era, you show them the NWO, we'll show them the NWO, and then we'll show them John Cena.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:47

That is that is true, and it's normally j nobody ever says you gotta watch Edge during the ruthless aggression era. Nobody ever knows that who I will switch to you to to to to judge not judgment day, but to new day immediately with holding the mic like fucking Xavier Woods. Uh who, please, who would ever say, yo, you should watch Rufus Aggression era Edge or Randy Orton to be exact.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:23

And so honestly, so I guess at the end of it, when you really kind of think about it, if if if people are so mad about people bringing up the the the attitude era all the time, then shit, maybe you should start bringing up the ruthless aggression era. If you can. You know, next time you get so who's all like, oh man, I want to get into wrestling, but like I don't I wanna I need something that'll like oh it's like oh oh I'll show you. Let me let me show you uh uh uh Eddie Gorrell versus uh Brock Lesnar. Do that then.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:00

Which that is a really great fucking storyline. That is a great storyline to show people, especially with the Eddie Guerrero promo. Like that will sell anybody. They're like, damn, I'm here for it. Like, but most of the time, if people do say that, and they'd be like, Oh uh, but he was better here.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:17

And when was he better?

SPEAKER_03 1:05:18

Attitude, I'm gonna say, like, something like that. What'd you be like?

SPEAKER_01 1:05:20

But but he was also so especially more entertaining at that.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:25

It's a thing, especially if you talk about Eddie Guerrero, but like, oh yeah, he ly cheese still. So where did Lai Chin still come from? So actually, he was uh Latino Heat, and Latino Heat was with China and you gotta go back, attitude error. So it's like no matter what, you're gonna get shells of a thing. So how do they get prominent? How do they become who they are? I actually was in the attitude era, so yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:50

So regardless, or you just be like, Oh, you gotta watch nitro you gotta watch Nitro to see the real Rey Mysterio, the filthy little animal motherfucker. Well, he was crispy back in the day, bro. He was miss he was Dominic Mysterio today. Listen, people people be for people be sleeping on the past Rey Mysterio.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:12

Bro, they be showing the video addicts, and it was like, no, we see where Dom gets it from.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:16

Yeah. Yeah, no, it's it's there. Like don't don't let Dominic Mysterio like me and then seeing Raymysterio and I was like, no. Raymisterio is an old man now. He he's got that, he's been had the dirty Dom in him.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:29

The Dom is out of he he pulled a he pulled a fucking gamekai and said, Spirit Orb, use K. Like he straight as gave him the power, and Dirty Dom became Filthy Animal.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:42

Actually, people should probably give that more credit. He's not Eddie Guerrero, he might be filthy animal, Ray Mysterious.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:49

That's definitely what that he is absolutely no matter how they want to spin it, you know, he he's looking like Eddie Guerrero's kid, but he's fucking Ray Mysterio's child.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:59

He's absolutely Ray Mysterious.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:01

Honestly, it's just that Latino heat. Regardless, it is just like Latino here. But guys, at the end of the day, I would love, we would both love to hear your opinions. Why is something like the Ruthless Aggression era not made into a game? Why is it always the Attitude Era? And then do you guys have an issue with that? Do you want to see more eras have their own specific games? I would love a strictly ECW, but that's just me. That's just me. You really can't do too much with it. But that I wish they would also put the EC, they might put ECW in as a DLC down the road. Because it is technically a part of the Attitude Air.

Ragdoll Chaos GM Mode And Wrap Up

SPEAKER_01 1:07:36

They I mean, they out, they they're definitely putting some ECW shit in there this game. Well, you should show me the fucking. Yeah. And they did put a lot of ECW stuff in the last one, too. Now, that video you sent me about the ragdoll faction that they got going on in this game.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:56

Bruh, but the fact is the ragdoll, they don't show any damage when they hit the floor, though.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:00

Yeah, that that's the only weird piece about it. Like just go back to the I mean they they stay they still, but they but but with that though, like there's a lot of weapon stuff that they still brought over from the previous game. Yeah kind of thing. So I'm like, I don't know, maybe. I have I haven't played it. I've only seen like small bits and pieces and little pictures, and so can we go back to landing on your neck again?

SPEAKER_03 1:08:25

I would I would like that again. You fall from any height like and then land on your neck, just can we just go back to that? That was a good that was a good time. So so. Especially if you threw a person off uh off the the fist into the germ, and granted, dude, but in all reality, we know that fall leads to it all depends.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:52

It all depends. I prefer a good ragdoll. And with the videos that I've seen, the the problem is the people who the like with the video that you showed me, people aren't being creative enough yet. No, no, they they don't they they they don't they don't got that wrestling mentality of making it.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:11

I did see one where it was a dominant mysterio and brought lesnar, and Brock does the German off the ambulance and he lands on the steel steps face first.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:20

I was like, that was Drew McIntyre who he did it.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:22

No, no, that's new when I saw it.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:24

Oh, that's yeah, I saw it.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:25

It was like a flaming table and flaming table. Yeah, it was a flaming table he could choose from in the steps. So he would German off the ambulance, and there's one where his face just hits the end of the fucking uh steps, and it's like, oh ouch, like fucked. And then there's one where he he I think he does a germ or something else and he falls on the flaming table. And then there's one where I think he does another suplex and Dom hits the stairs, but Brock still lands on the flaming table.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:55

Like that, all right. Yeah. Like from some of the things I see, I'm like, all right, just for the pure foolish stupidity of shenanigans, I might need to get this game. A lot of people are saying that too. Like, just for that. But like, interesting enough, I haven't heard them say anything about GM mode. That's gonna be it. That's what I play. Like, literally, this last one, I I shit you die. I have not played not a damn thing in that game but GM mode. Well, I mean, you can just go online probably. So you just check or put before. I'll probably check, but but I mean, it's not that big of a deal for now. But I don't got the money to get it right.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:35

Besides that, guys. Again, like I said before, I would love to hear your opinion on what your thoughts about what era would be good for a game, because I I think we're both curious, and we're probably gonna ask that to anybody who gets on the show as well. Also, prove me wrong.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:50

Like, yeah, why should why should it be another era outside of goddamn the the the uh attitude era? Like, why why should it be the ruthless aggression?

SPEAKER_03 1:11:01

Yeah, yeah. Give us reasons. We would love to hear because not enough are being given. Not at all, not at all. But as always, guys, the ring is sacred, the questions are always real, and the destruction is guaranteed. It's your host who likes to post the Mazaku.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:20

And it's your boy, Swag Switch in the building.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:22

And from the Big Brothers of Destruction, guys, have a good one until next time. See you soon. Peace.