WrestleMania 42 Predictions

WrestleMania 42 is the kind of card that should be easy to get excited about, and yet we’re sitting here asking the same question a lot of WWE fans are asking right now: why does it feel like the build is fighting the audience? We get into the “corporate WrestleMania” vibe under TKO, from ticket price frustration to creative choices that feel like they’re made for headlines and sponsors instead of story.

Then we go match by match with a twist that keeps us honest: we give a booker prediction (what WWE will likely do) and a fan prediction (what we actually want). We talk Cody Rhodes vs Randy Orton and how interference can swallow the whole feud, Stephanie Vaquer vs Liv Morgan and why some title reigns go stale fast, and Seth Rollins vs Gunther as the definition of a cold but talented matchup. We also dig into AJ Lee vs Becky Lynch and what kind of finish would make the booking make sense after everything we’ve already seen.

On the Sunday side, we hit the big debates: CM Punk vs Roman Reigns and why it’s the one match with real heat, Jade Cargill vs Rhea Ripley and the faction booking logic, Demon Finn Balor vs Dominik, Sami Zayn vs Trick Williams, Oba Femi vs Brock Lesnar, and the Intercontinental ladder match chaos factor. If you care about WWE storylines, WrestleMania predictions, and where creative is heading, you’ll have plenty to argue with us about.

Subscribe, share this with your wrestling group chat, and leave a review if you want more straight talk. What’s your full WrestleMania 42 card prediction, and where do you think the biggest swerve happens?

Transcript

Welcome And WrestleMania Mood

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Welcome to another episode of the Big Brothers of Destruction podcast. It's a matter of fact, you're in the mix with your girlfriends fix the Masuku. There you go. Come on.

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You're in the mix. With your girlfriends fix. Alright. So you don't think that's good? It's your boy, Swag's picture.

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Cool, cool.

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We're out here. And there's a couple of things that we gotta we gotta get out the way, get on the table, and let y'all know about what's going on while I'm trying to pull up the thing that we want to actually be looking at here.

SPEAKER_02 0:46

It's the WrestleMania cut, guys. You're here for us to talk about our predictions of WrestleMania 42. Um and honestly, we all know it's a shit show right now. It's unfortunate, but it is a shit show. And every week they keep trying to make it better. The only thing that has recently put

Corporate WWE Frustrations And TKO

SPEAKER_02 1:05

an injection in my arm, I would say, is the CM Punk uh promo or the pipe bomb as he's known for. But overall, everything else is just makes you puzzle and wonder what's going on in Creative, right? I mean, TKO has truly shown their colors this WrestleMania on what they care about, and that's definitely not the fans. They care about the money, money, money, as AJ Francis would like to say. But swag, we we definitely want to give our predictions to what this card would look like. And I saw a photo uh saying that while watching WrestleMania, it's probably better to just either drink or be high.

SPEAKER_04 1:51

I mean, so here's the situation. It's the fact like the the actual WrestleMania card isn't bad on paper. On paper, yes. When you look at it on paper, it's really, really good. Now, all this controversy controversy in the stories that are going into this, that's where everything gets weird. Because I'm gonna be honest, it's there's certain, there's little, there's very, very small points where it feels like a WrestleMania season. But as a whole, there's no hype going into this WrestleMania season. Now, I don't know if maybe it's because we're burned from last year from it seeming like this amazing John Cena situation that was supposed to happen that fell flat on its face. Or if it's just the fact that which I'm really sure it is this particular bit, is just the fact that they dropped the ball on getting this WrestleMania promoted and talked about the way that they want to. Like, before we like you watch SmackDown? Yeah. I feel like they're trolling us. Oh no, no, they are. They literally, hey, for the next two days until Monday, Saturday's gonna be on a 25% discount. Come on, man.

SPEAKER_02 3:14

Yeah. Come on. They are fucking with the fans. Like the whole CM Punk promo. I feel like a part of me is like, yo, let just TKO be the next corporation. It's the only thing that would make sense, and it would actually make fans not hate the product anymore. And plus, somebody like, and then as they like to say, Voldemort, the one who should not be named, uh, he was a good on-air person to hate because you understood that it was what's best for business, and especially when we had the authority, we hated those. Um, it's probably just better to put all this blame on a personality and character to get them heat rather than just making it the company. Because if it's the company we hate now.

SPEAKER_04 3:55

See, I don't even it's not even so much that part. Now, I can agree with what you're saying. It gives us somebody to hate. But what it is because like right now, the the stuff that's happening, this is all legitimate backstage, not actually on TV scene stuff. Yeah. The the the prices of WrestleMania tickets being stupid high because of TKO, that's real life shit. That's yeah, yeah, yeah. That's legitimate. Yeah. That and and like all these other weird moves that are happening, these are legitimate, not an actual storyline piece. And so I can agree with the idea of being like, hey, since we know we're not going to change what we're doing, and we're not going to lower ticket prices, and we're not going to do these things, and we're going to run this company to the ground as we wish. Sure, if you want to make it try to blur the lines and make it seem like it's more for TV, yeah, get get make put a face to it and they and make it seem like they're the ones that's calling the shots. But at the same time, it's it's like a very weird, like, like paradoxical situation if they do some shit like that. Cause with the whole that's that's the whole fucking Vince McMahon. With the whole Vince McMahon bullshit, right? It's like when Vince McMahon was there, that was just storyline. It wasn't like it was it wasn't like behind the scenes, but that would be like the the equivalent of what you're trying to be like is if like if Vince McMahon was there and then he comes out there and he's all and and he's and he's legitimately talking about the court case with him and this girl who he shat on. Vince would do that though. But like no.

SPEAKER_02 5:48

Vince wouldn't do that. He would flip it in some way, shape, or form. He would do that.

SPEAKER_04 5:53

But that if he did when it comes to stuff like that, no. Cut for that would so like he didn't do that with the steroids thing. Like, when it comes to like legal shit like that, no, he didn't do that. Like, that because like going back to something like when it happened and he was actively there, that would be like if he was there and while the the fucking steroid case is going on, he's walking around and he's like, you know, looking at so-and-so is like and and and and and and firing them because they were doing steroids, or or it's the scene where you see like a bottle of pills or something like that, and and you know, like but I'm saying, granted, yeah, with illegal legal stuff like that, I feel like he has joked on serious situations as that.

SPEAKER_02 6:38

Now, because it's legal and they're not and TKO's not being sued for this. That's why I feel like it would be appropriate because yes, it's real-world situation, but whereas the steroids thing that was legal, he'd go to jail for that. This is just more so the fans hating that person for that, I feel.

SPEAKER_04 6:55

Well, also the stuff that he now, unless I'm just not remembering properly, but I'm like some of the things that that were that like the real life stuff that he would poke fun at weren't real life things that he was poking fun at that specifically

Turning Real Backstage Heat Onscreen

SPEAKER_04 7:10

pertained to his business. It might have pertained to some uh some other business or something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like it wasn't never anything that specifically happened in WWE kind of deal. You know, now granted, in the more recent times Maybe not him, maybe the wrestlers.

SPEAKER_02 7:28

Because I mean, you know, we had the OBI. Well uh wrestlers will, you know, shoot, shoot at each other and do wild shit with each other, but I can see what you're saying is in like Vince would never do uh a situation that will garner uh well I won't say do something malicious to his business. But what I'm saying is if they are going to continue this, it would honestly make more sense if there was like just like how ECW did it. ECW did it where um what's his name? Uh Don Callis. Don Callis was a character who was working for the network. So any bullshit that happened in in ECW at that time, they would just blame it on the network. And it was a legit situation they were dealing with with uh TNT, um uh uh whatever the network was. I won't say TNT, but yeah, it was TNT. So the TNT network didn't want the extreme stuff to happen anymore. They were like, yo, you're on TV, so no more extreme stuff. So they created a character who was called, who was connected with the network. They never said what the name of the network was, but it was a network. And Don Callis, he played that character. So he was on commentary with Joey Styles. Remember that? Everything that would happen during the early 2000s was all blamed on the network. So he's like, the network executives want this. So they would just play on that as a character, and it got heat because it was like anything that would happen. Oh, we can't have carcore this, we can't do this, because of the network.

SPEAKER_04 8:53

So I feel, and with that particular, like, because that is that's probably more close to what I guess they're trying to do. Yeah. But it's one of those things, like, for me, I I don't I mean, I I guess with it being the I guess the network being one thing, but it's because the network, that's not quite within They are they are literally being programmed on they're literally being broadcast on TNT and they are joking about TNT.

SPEAKER_02 9:28

Literally, as a character.

SPEAKER_04 9:30

I guess so. I guess that but as far as as far as to me goes when it comes to it, I don't think it works. Okay. Now, maybe it worked for ECW for what it was. I mean, and I guess you could almost say that Right the Censor was almost like the same thing. It really was, actually. You know, because Right the Censor consort was like there, you know, poking fun and you know retaliating at, you know, you know, the censoring wrestling and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_02 10:00

And they literally targeted two of the main characters that was causing the biggest issues, which was literally your your wrestler who's a corn star, and then the other one was Pimp.

SPEAKER_04 10:07

So like And so like sure, I guess, but I also think because of the times that we're in, I don't think it's going it's not it's not going to work anymore.

SPEAKER_02 10:23

Oh, because of like social media?

SPEAKER_04 10:25

Correct. Like I I don't think it's going to I don't think that works anymore. Because the main point that I'm trying to get across is the fact that with what they're doing, it's fucking stupid. I mean that's that is just the bare bones in the ball. Like it it's just stupid. And then for them to have Pat McAfee come out there and not just double down, not just triple down, but just go fucking all in with all this shit. It's just like, oh my god, what are we doing, dog? Like this is so we're so we're really just gonna because like it it's like they're trying to do that, but it's cringe. It's very cringe to me. And I don't think it's just me, as they say the IWC, the wrestling fans, the people who are watching this, they also know that is fucking cringe. Oh, yeah. And it's it's stupid.

SPEAKER_02 11:22

And it's one thing Pat McAfee is more so a clown nowadays, and keep putting clown, they keep putting clown makeup on him.

SPEAKER_04 11:29

Because like with that, what you're talking about, it's like it's one thing when it's like something on the outside that is hindering the wrestling. And I think this is what I was trying to say. Because with Right to Censor, with you know, the whole Don Callis thing in the network, these are people on the outside of the business trying to hold the business back. This is legitimately the business holding the business back.

SPEAKER_02 12:02

Doing the number one thing it shouldn't be doing. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 12:04

Like it's literally it TKO is holding the business back right now and making stupid choices that wrestling fans don't like. TKO is WWE. It'd be one thing if it was Netflix causing all of this shit. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 12:28

You know, but it's like saying, hey, because we're gonna broadcast your your your WrestleMania, ticket sales have to be this to match our broadcast. Like say something like that. Exactly. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_04 12:39

If that was the case.

SPEAKER_02 12:40

But then if that's the case, then we will all hate Netflix. It wouldn't be on WWE. We hate Netflix. Exactly. But then that would that would hurt Netflix, though.

SPEAKER_04 12:48

Sure, but we don't care about Netflix. We care about our fucking wrestling. Just like how, with the whole Don Callister situation, you said, we don't give a fuck about the network. We want our extreme wrestling.

SPEAKER_02 13:02

But what I'm saying is, like, if you put it on Netflix, right, now you're actually hurting their bottom dollar because people who might want to subscribe to Netflix are like, oh man, well, I undersubscribe as my way of voicing and protesting, because you know there's a lot of people who are doing that, even things like uh Spotify.

SPEAKER_04 13:19

But in that same breath, that's like saying, now Greg, they did not use, they didn't name drop anything. But if it's the network that is making us not be able to watch our extreme wrestling and our hardcore shit, then wouldn't we want to boycott the network?

SPEAKER_02 13:35

I see what you're saying. I think just because you said before, as social media has made it a difficulty to do certain things like that, because back in the day, you just ran with it.

SPEAKER_04 13:44

But like social media would be all on like your Twitter, so like using your description that you you gave, it's like back then when they say the network, they probably the people who are watching, they're probably not necessarily thinking TNT. The people who are who who's housing E uh uh uh ECW uh ECW. Yeah, they're not they're probably not necessarily thinking T T. But you know, us people who are in the know, we know it's TNT that's making them not want to do the extreme shit.

SPEAKER_02 14:16

So so is it kind of almost saying, and this is just this is just being facetious, it's almost like saying wrestling fans have gotten too smart now, and so we gotta go back to being dumb and and just accepting the product for what it is. Um does that make sense like you're saying, like the network situation. We know, like we know as wrestling fans now, we know the backstage, we know all that stuff. Well, so to know it now and being like, okay, well, actually, let me go in the dirt sheets and really find out what the fuck's going on. And the dirt sheets telling you that actually it's not that, it's this, and you know so it's a yes and no.

SPEAKER_04 14:52

Okay, yes, in the sense of the fact that unfortunately for us, we are way too smart of people now, yeah, as far as wrestling goes. Yeah. Kind of thing. Now, granted, it's and we're we're a weird paradox of fans because it's like, yes, we know this is fake, yes, we read the dirt sheets and everything, but yes, we still get super emotional over these matches and get extremely into it, and we buy into whatever they're putting on the TV.

SPEAKER_02 15:19

This really got

Smart Fans Social Media Politics

SPEAKER_02 15:20

wrestling political as fuck.

SPEAKER_04 15:21

But but but that's the thing, because that this whole WrestleMania, this WrestleMania is the most political WrestleMania I have ever laid my eyes on because there's so much dumb shit happening in the background. Let me put it this way the shit that is happening in the background of WrestleMania is more entertaining than what the actual matches are. Damn. So you see. All this other shit. All the backstage stuff of TKO and WWE that's going on is more entertaining than fucking the undisputed title with Cody Rhodes or Randy Orton.

SPEAKER_02 16:15

Oh, I don't give a fuck about that match, bro.

SPEAKER_04 16:16

Because it's like the the the okay, so spinoff with that, it's like, yeah, we're more worried about the whole Pac McAfee dumb shit that's happening. It's literally WrestleMania 41 game. And and and uh what yeah we're gonna Travis Scott, basically. But see, the difference between Travis Scott, we just didn't want him to be there. He didn't say anything stupid. Oh, okay. And he showed up when it should have been The Rock. That's why we hate Travis Scott. Yeah, yeah. I mean, granted, also Travis Carr kind of just was just stupid for the whole process. But it's like with Pat McAfee in this, Pat McAfee has literally took the focus off of Randy Orton and Cody Rhodes, and now the focus is on Pat McAfee and what's the what's the uh not not NICCOM but like whoever it was that appointed Pat McAfee to be a part of this?

SPEAKER_02 17:05

Uh I can't remember the executive, but I know you're talking about yeah.

SPEAKER_04 17:08

But yeah, it's this now it's become about Pat McAfee and the executives of TKO fucking with WrestleMania as a whole. Yeah. That's what this match represents right now. Who cares about Randy Orton beating up Cody Rhodes and and apparently beating up Jelly Roll and all this other stuff because Randy Orton's so diabolical now.

SPEAKER_02 17:33

We can talk about that. I think it'd be just best to let our frustrations out on what this card is and explain

Booker Vs Fan Prediction Rules

SPEAKER_02 17:40

what obviously makes sense that what they're gonna do. And okay, let's make two decisions because I think that would be uh what we can make different about ours is let's give us our booker response and the fan response. That makes sense? So you get two sides of the coin. So basically, let's kind of go down the card. If you want to go to the main events first, you want to go up, what do you want to do? So what I'm going to do, because I have it pulled up here on the WWE. I have a photo, I had a photo of it in my phone, I forgot to send it to you.

SPEAKER_00 18:10

And um, like the what and it has, it looks like this is the full, whatch we call it, the two matches featured in the first, okay, ESPN, okay, whatever.

SPEAKER_04 18:20

But it's like, I don't think it's an order. So I'm just gonna go in the order.

SPEAKER_02 18:24

We don't even have an order, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 18:25

So there is that too. They're act there we don't know.

SPEAKER_02 18:27

Yeah, we don't know what there is. Yeah. We just know the main events for each night.

SPEAKER_04 18:31

So it's like we have the Saturday night card. And out of curiosity, when it shows the Sunday night, so I could almost say that this is probably listed uh from bottom to top, aka main event to probably what

Cody Rhodes Vs Randy Orton

SPEAKER_04 18:45

the first match will end up being. And so, but I'm just going to read it in order. So the first match is that they or the first the first match we'll talk about is that undisputed title match, Cody Rose versus Randy Orton.

SPEAKER_02 18:57

I mean, since we're already on the topic, we might as well just go ahead and dive into that. So, all right, man. So give me your booker. As a booker, what do you think the booker is gonna do? So, well, it's so it's honest. Also, bonus if you can give me the prediction of how the finish will be. There you go. Uh uh fucked is what I think the finish will be. Um But I mean, exactly how the finish will go.

SPEAKER_04 19:26

Like, say if you're like, oh, Pat McAfee kicks him in the balls again, Oregon gets the KO uh RKO pins, like so the way that I see this match going is the fact that the the keep and play is simple, Pat McAfee's gonna interfere, and Jelly Roll is going to interfere, and while they're both interfering, they're both gonna end up getting put to the side. And when it comes to all of the hubbub that's been going on with this, right? I it it's they did they have done the thing where they've kind of made it hard for me to really predict it, because if Randy Orton loses, we'll never see Pat McAfee ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever again. So because of that, there is the main part of me, which is probably that booker mentality, I feel that Randy Orton has to win, but it's gonna be a fuck finish. Is what I'm thinking. Now what I'm thinking as well as a fan, I would easily say that like yes, Cody Rhodes wins, TKO loses, da da da, yay, all happy hunky dory type shit. Now, what the swerve that's your fan, that's your fan now.

SPEAKER_02 20:56

It's the booker and the fan.

SPEAKER_04 20:57

Yeah, so it's like like as I guess as a fan who I would prefer to see win, yeah, sure, it's Cody Rhodes. But as a booker, I still think it's going to be Randy Orton who wins. Mm-hmm kind of thing. Now, there are parts of me like as a fan, it's like, I don't know what happens with Cody Rhodes winning afterwards, but the reasons why I picked Cody Rhodes to win as a fan is because I really want this shit to be over with with the Pat McAfee stuff.

SPEAKER_02 21:26

But But I like Pat McAfee as a commentator at least.

SPEAKER_04 21:29

I don't give a fuck about Pat McAfee.

SPEAKER_02 21:31

I guess I can teach his own.

SPEAKER_04 21:33

I've never cared about him. I've never cared about Pat McAfee in my WWE. Well, how about this?

SPEAKER_02 21:38

He did give you that good moment with Gunther. You didn't like that? The match. He made Gunther, you know what I'm saying, look strong. You didn't like that match. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 21:50

I'm pretty sure if we go back to, I don't know, the the podcast when we talked about it, a shot on that.

SPEAKER_02 21:56

I mean, you did, but the fact that you know what I'm saying, he Gunther got in the sleeper and he made the sleeper look strong.

SPEAKER_04 22:03

Hey, for those who are watching, I want y'all to go back and watch the podcast when that match happened. I'm just asking how much of a dump we took on that match. Oh, we did. And how stupid that match was and how ridiculous that match was there to be in the beginning, first place. That match did nothing for Bucking Gunther. Nothing. As a matter of fact, it almost hurt him. Because at the end he shook his tech in that.

SPEAKER_02 22:29

Oh, yeah, that is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 22:33

After all this dumb shit, they try to hold your book.

SPEAKER_02 22:36

Yeah. Okay, I was thinking about what he uh maybe it wasn't the match. I was thinking about the segment on Raw, I think it was, where it's like, was it Cole?

SPEAKER_04 22:45

Yes, but but do you that was the most AEW shit I ever seen, dawg. Because then afterwards all like, yeah, you know, Guthrie, he's a good competitor. I never want to do that shit again, but you know, even though no, no.

SPEAKER_02 23:00

Alright, I absolutely you know what it kind of would make sense if Cody wins, because you know, Pat McAfee has stated before that, you know, when he was doing commentary, it did burn him out. And he's saying, uh understanding that the the WWE life kind of blew blew you know blew him out of proportion. And so maybe that this is his way of exiting out and not coming back to WW WWE. But the booker in me says Orton is winning. The fan in me says Orton needs to win because I don't really want Cody as a champion anymore. Cody's reigns have been so dumb to me. Like, bro, it's stupid. How you fall for the same bullshit every time? You get kicked in the dick by every one of your friends, every one of your opponents. You you never have a brain. You never have a you're too federation-y as a babyface to think anybody could do you wrong. And as a person who's stated before that you remember your past and you are moving past that shit, you keep falling for the same stuff. So right now, I do need a a new version of Cody. And him holding this title right now is not gonna make a difference. He needs to go away for a little bit, he needs to come to a come to Jesus moment, as they say, and have a fucking brain when he comes back. Okay, he's been a heel before, he knows what heel shit what heels do. So it's just like, come on, bro, like it he's just not having a brain right now, bro. He's not having a brain. I don't want the title on him. I'd rather have Orton have it and give him his last run and then it'd be his last hour. I believe so. I'm cool with that. I'm cool with that. And the finish-wise, I will agree with partial of your finish of Pat McAfee gets involved, Jolie Roll gets on the Apry, kind of almost similar to what happened on SmackDown. Tries to do the same thing. Cody looks over, he gets real concerned, checks on him, and then Orton strikes, and then Orton wins. That's kind of what I see happening, and that's kind of what I'd prefer. Just go ahead and get the belt off Cody for a little bit. Give me a moment to breathe from the motherfucker. Yeah, I hate it all. I mean, yeah. It's all bad. It's just to me, Orton has been chasing this title for so long and keeps looking over Cody's shoulder with that belt and doesn't acknowledge it, and it's about time he does it. And then if if Orton can get away from Pat McAfee and then be a true heel, we might have a really good run for Orton. But we're not going to have that because Pat McAfee is involved in it. Which is No, no, I'm talking about after, afterwards, like because obviously he's only here for Mania, since that's what the executive wants. He won him only here for Mania. So if we get him out of here after that, after Mania's done, and I think Orton has a chance.

SPEAKER_04 25:49

And those are the reasons why I'm like, this is dumb. And I would rather have Cody Rhodes just keep it and we just move on to another segment. Because it's like having Pat McAfee just show up to do this and then disappear, pull a Dwayne Johnson. Listen, we that we this will this will be the second year in a row to have a Dwayne Johnson situation with no payoff. And no.

SPEAKER_02 26:18

Look, look, look, look. Well no, Roman had to lose two. Cody got to lose two, too.

SPEAKER_03 26:27

That that's a that that's a weird way to put it, but because Roman, and we're gonna get to that match.

SPEAKER_02 26:33

Roman is not losing to Ork, to, to, to, to K to CM Punk.

Stephanie Vaquer Vs Liv Morgan

SPEAKER_02 26:40

Uh, but we'll get to that shortly. So what's the next match?

SPEAKER_04 26:43

Stephanie Valkyrie versus Liv Morgan.

SPEAKER_02 26:46

Liv is winning. The booker in me says Liv is winning. The fan in me says Liv is winning. I I'm not liking Stephanie Valkyrie's reign. It could be because WWE has nothing for her to cook with because it literally happens around Mania season. So, you know, that's one thing. But I truly feel like with this whole Judgment Day thing, and now, yes, Dom is Triple A champion. You know, they're supposed to be flaunting around belts. They kind of want to put that same thing with the Becky and the Seth, where both of them got belts and they're parading as a couple. Judgment Day is supposed to be going on the up now, I guess, in their eyes. And what better way, I guess, could be a rematch for Finn in the future is when obviously Dom has, you know, he has the AAA title, and then he probably fights him in triple A and maybe wins the belt there because he damn sure not winning a heavyweight title on WWE. So that's probably the best place she'll go. And Finn honestly fits the AAA mold. But I know that kind of sprays uh uh goes off of uh live, but I just feel like again, Stephanie Valkyrie's reign has been very blah.

SPEAKER_04 27:55

And no, don't shouldn't include it. It's ass.

SPEAKER_02 27:58

Yeah, yeah, it's it's very blah. It's very ass, okay. I mean, it matches. We can call it we can call the spade the spade.

SPEAKER_04 28:05

There's nothing wrong with Stephanie Valkyrie.

SPEAKER_02 28:07

No, absolutely nothing. It's just the rain is just not good right now.

SPEAKER_04 28:10

There's just something wrong with creative. Mm-hmm. Which honestly is what all boils down to when it comes to this. Uh uh, so as a booker Which is crazy, but for me, uh as the booker, we I see Stephanie McCare winning.

SPEAKER_03 28:33

Okay, it's funny. Because Jay Cargill's gonna keep her belt.

SPEAKER_04 28:39

I don't think that and so as a booker actually we'll get to that.

SPEAKER_02 28:46

We'll we'll get to that, but go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 28:48

As a booker, Stephanie McCare wins because she's the inspiration. She is, you know, all all she is held on such a a high bit kind of thing. Liv Morgan can handle the loss, and at the same time, maybe Liv Morgan losing will help with the deterioration of Judgment Day, because that is still a story that needs to be told. And I see it possibly happening because uh Roxanne is gonna come out there because they never actually had that conversation because Roxanne was brought in by uh um a fan.

SPEAKER_02 29:30

Yeah. And Finn's not there.

SPEAKER_04 29:32

Before they got their lumps on their head, you know, she was like, So I know Finn bought you in here and da-da-da-da, and so I just want to make sure that everything is good between us and you, and the fact that we've kicked Finn out of the group, even though he's the one that brought you here. And then Steve McCare viciously attacked them, threw her into a bucket TV, literally left a big boil on her fucking boarhead. And so I see the fact that Judgment Day is gonna cost live to lose. Kind of thing. And that's from a booker's standpoint. When it comes to a fan, right? Because it's weird trying to look at this as a fan, because like as a fan, of course I want my girl Stephanie Vakir to win. But at the same time, as a fan, Stephanie would be so much better just losing this belt so that she can now develop her character and become great.

SPEAKER_02 30:38

And that's why I want Liv to win as a fan. Because uh, I need Stephanie to cook more because this rain, you can't you can't fix a rain if it's been bleh with just one random title match. Like, yes, the match will probably be great, right? But like you can't tell me now I gotta go into backlash and then hope that this next match is gonna be good when the rest of this reign is really eh. Um, your reign is really very important with your first and your second match. That's just me as a wrestling fan I've been watching for years. Your first and your second defenses really matter and how you're presented as a champion moving forward and why we should care. And none of her matches made you care, really. I mean, they're great matches, but made you not care.

SPEAKER_04 31:27

Whenever she became the number one contender, I think it was uh it was she literally was not on TV for damn near two months before she did anything, and then leading up into the match where she got the belt, she had one match in that two and a half month period, and then she just becomes champion, and then when she becomes champion, she does nothing just hold the belt like Jade. But I still I I still think Jade's was kind of worse. I just like her. It's nothing, it really is nothing, it's just like I Stan Fakir's a fucking fighter, dog. Like, we've seen what she can fucking do in in in NXT, and then they bring it to the main roster, and they're all like let's chicken shitter.

SPEAKER_02 32:21

Um That was about right. That was about right what I was like.

SPEAKER_04 32:25

And then on top of that, it's like they try, it's like these two girls, they're facing each other, and there's really no heat.

SPEAKER_02 32:32

There's no real beef outside of the fact that she just caused the fucking media on her goddamn head.

SPEAKER_04 32:37

Well, before that, it was more so just the fact that Liv Morgan just kind of talked a little bit of shit, and then it's like it's like they're it's like they tried to make tension be between them, but there's there's really there's still really nothing there. Like, granted, Liv Morgan has kind of done a little bit to make to make it to the point where Stephanie Cara really kind of needs to whoop her ass, but like at the end of the day, there's that there's still there's real, there's no real genuine heat.

SPEAKER_02 33:08

I mean, that's not you can say that for a lot of these damn matches, there's really no genuine heat. I mean, you can even say it technically for the punk and and Roman one, like you could, you could say that whatever. I mean, they were literally in the movie where they just all they said was Z Bubs.

SPEAKER_04 33:21

Now, when we get to the Punk and Roman one, I'll have to I'll I'll have to disagree when it comes to there not being heat.

SPEAKER_02 33:31

Oh, I'm saying we're aware of their heat. I'm just saying outside of like the the heat that would make it make sense because again, they just did a movie where they were zebros and shit. And if apparently Roman hated him that fing, and then had the situation with Cody where apparently him and Cody were saying, yo, we couldn't be on set together because he didn't want us to be on set together. And then Roman saying, actually, that was Cody that did that. So then you telling me y'all were in the ring and said Zebros and pounded, man, shut the f up. Um there there's more to it, but we'll we'll we'll frost up. I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_04 34:08

I'm just but now I think

Seth Rollins Vs Gunther Feels Cold

SPEAKER_04 34:10

with the with with what you were really trying to uh nail down about the not, you know, the whole no real heat is the Seth Rollins versus Gunther situation.

SPEAKER_02 34:20

Yeah, that that really has nothing.

SPEAKER_04 34:22

That is just a match with this is this is a uh exhibition. No, uh not even that. This is a uh a corporate match, all right?

SPEAKER_02 34:32

I mean this is This is pulling out your ass match.

SPEAKER_04 34:35

No, no, no, no, no. This is a match that was specifically made to help get more people to buy tickets to go to WrestleMania. Because of Gunther? Surprise for you. Niggas actually fuck with Gunther. Oh no, I I fuck with Gunther. I'm just saying, you're telling me he wasn't on the pay-per-view. So let's say you're one of these diehard Gunther fans, you're like, yeah, I'm not fucking with this pay-per-view. Oh shit, Gunther's gonna be on it? And Seth Rollins?

SPEAKER_02 35:05

I mean, I'll go. There's a lot more people now who probably I mean, Gunther is great, but there's a lot more people. If I knew they were gonna be on a card, I'd be there for that.

SPEAKER_04 35:15

But but it's for that idea is the reason why this match happened. Both of these guys had nothing to do with this pay-per-view at all. Or actually, both of these guys originally had something to do with this pay-per-view, but their original opponents got injured and had to scrap those things.

SPEAKER_02 35:35

So so this is more of a as uh Zay would say, hear damn. Kind of, because yeah, we're just you want seven matches each night, hear down.

SPEAKER_04 35:44

Yeah, here's here's here's a match, and it's two people that people like seeing on TV.

SPEAKER_02 35:48

And uh And it will be a it will be a good match. These are two, these are two wrestlers.

SPEAKER_04 35:53

Yeah, wrestle. But it's like it's but it's as cold of a match as possible because number one, Gunther absolutely has nothing to do with this match. As far as like as far as the story goes, like Gunther literally just got like uh set because Seth Rollins But it's one of those things where it's like Seth Rollins, as I'm sure we all know, was supposed to be going up against Braun Breaker and da da da da, right? So it's supposed to be a whole vision situation, but Braun Breaker's hurt, so because of that, we d we need to get Seth Rollins on his pay-per-view somehow. And so that's that piece. And then fuck that.

SPEAKER_02 36:34

Oh, these are way bars. They're sour though. You wanna try them?

SPEAKER_04 36:37

Sure.

SPEAKER_02 36:38

A weyball? Yeah, it's basically a protein bar.

SPEAKER_04 36:41

A sour protein bar? Yeah. That sounds crazy. But um it's blueberry. Smells good though. Mm-hmm. Try it in the second year. But uh, but yeah, so it's like when it comes to like the Seth Right, because like then for for Gunther, which what I've seen online, because it was Gunther obviously was going to be facing Rey Mysterio, because last time we were seeing Gunther doing shit, he literally choked out Dragon Lee.

SPEAKER_02 37:07

And the funny part about it is Ray is now on the room.

SPEAKER_04 37:09

And took his mask. And it's like now we're just gonna act like and not care about that whole situation. And and then Rey Mysterio comes back and not caring about that situation, just like it never happened. Alright, cool, cool. Cool.

SPEAKER_02 37:26

Oh when y'all do that at WWE, you really piss us off. I don't know if y'all really know that as fans, because if you say, hey, at some point Rey Mysterio has to go against Gunther, right? As his retirement match, you have now fucked it because it makes no sense for Rey to then go backstage, to then still be in the same space as Gunther and not kick his ass. Like we understand Kfabe is a thing, right? But when you do that, I don't know as is anybody else. If I got in a if I got a person I'll have beef with and an issue with backstage, if I see you nigga, it's on site. So then especially if you voicing that in promos and shit like that, how the fuck are you still going backstage and doing shit and not addressing him? Yeah, yeah. Especially when Seth is getting his ass kicked, then why is Rainbow still not coming out there? Because it's not based on story. All right, yeah. Yeah, when y'all do that, y'all really fuck a story up. I'm I'm so serious.

SPEAKER_04 38:26

Yeah. It's it's it's kind of weird that they just kind of say, like, you know, we're just gonna drop that whole thing, but hey, you know. And I think they also say the fact that it's like, you know, Raymond Stereo doesn't want to get retired by Gunther. He won't he wants to he wants to go up against the sun.

SPEAKER_02 38:45

Actually, I'd be okay with that.

SPEAKER_04 38:46

Or at least uh Pittsburgh. But it's like because Gunther was on his whole retiring people's shtick and whatnot, the way it was going to look like is if Raymond Stereo is gonna, you know, Rey Mysterio coming out there and face him is like, all right, well, I guess I'm gonna end Rey Mysterio's career, because you know, all this other shit. But like, I guess they want to kind of like uh drop the whole career-ending stigma thing for Gunther, because then yeah, he like Red Randy Orton was the legend killer.

SPEAKER_02 39:14

You're not really killing people's careers. You are, you know, more so just killing the legend itself. So, I mean that's more feasible, but overall, I get what you mean. So what's the next uh oh yeah, we never win our booker sorry. Um, what is your booking uh idea for the match and then your fan idea for the match?

SPEAKER_04 39:33

Uh it's weird because with this one you kind of book yourself in a bit of a corner because like you book you book yourself into a shoot brother. So here actually, well, you you do, and how you fix that booking yourself into a corner is Gunther wins, um Gunther wins, and then uh because uh uh Ron Braun comes out there, spears him, spears Seth Rollins, and now this gets us back on course with Seth Rollins and the Vision.

SPEAKER_02 40:02

But then what what happened to Gunther after that? Who he fucks off and wins. I think he's technically a part of the vision now. He's not ew. There's photos of it, right? No, I mean not not legit photos, but people have made photos of Gunther.

SPEAKER_04 40:17

People are stupid. You're gonna make me drop the R word out here, bro, because people are. I'm gonna be nice and not say it, but like people are the R-word, bro. No, no, no. Did you watch Monday Night Raw? I did. I'm just saying- Did Gunther look like he gave a fuck about Paul Heyman? No. He said, Paul Heyman, you owe me, and you're going to pay up. I don't give a fuck about no vision shit. I'm running my own shit over here. But I did this so that now you owe me a favor. Or I'ma do what I did to him to you. Easy as that. Get that bullshit out of my vasebock. You the type, you the type of people that watch AI and be like, hey, yo, this shit looks dope. That's what you sound like.

SPEAKER_02 41:09

Nah, nah, I'm just bringing up dumb shit I see on the internet, bro. We obviously know that nigga's not being a leader in the vision. I'm just because you keep asking me, if I'm watching a product, I'm I'm asking you, are you seeing what the IWC be saying? That's what I'm doing when I just I'll be honest.

SPEAKER_04 41:26

I don't be sometimes seeing all what because I sometimes sometimes you have to just keep scrolling. You know, it's uh sometimes you just gotta just you just just gotta keep scrolling. But as a booker, Gunther wins because Seth Rong gets speared out of his his his boots and and and gloves and knee pads. As a fan. I don't care. I don't care as a fan. I don't care, bro. As a fan, as a fan, I'm using the bathroom when this match comes on. You know what I'm saying? I'm refilling my liquor cup. Like that's I'm up doing it. That's me as a fan. By the way, this shit's sour as a motherfucker, but it's good. I don't, yeah. God damn. Yeah, it hits you. This shit's like alright. Yeah. But yeah, Gunther wins. As a fan, Gunther wins, I guess. Who cares? Can we get to the next match? Why not?

SPEAKER_02 42:31

Also, it makes me feel like that's so that would be a good drink. Oh, yeah. Yeah, like an alcoholic one. Like you'd be a clip. Alright, so I'm I'm a I'ma keep it short and sweet because I really don't give a fuck about this match either. Yeah, Gunther wins, Gunther wins in both accounts, whether it's Booker or Fan. Because not saying fuck Seth, but it just it wouldn't make any sense for him to beat Gunther because Gunther has nothing to do with the vision. So I guess. Because like if say say Seth wins, right? What happens next? I think it would make more sense if if Gunther wins, because if Braun can't come back yet, you kind of can keep this going for a little bit until Braun finally shows up and hit him with that spear. Then Gunther can kind of just shoe himself away. It's like that's not my problem anymore. That's if it can't happen at many.

SPEAKER_04 43:25

And that and that's that also is a very true thing because this needs to just be a one and done thing. Because if Seth Rollins wins, now Gunther is going to want to try and get his lick back and all this other stuff, type thing. But what I think helps is the idea of the fact somebody interfering, costing uh the Seth Rollins the match, because they're not costing Gunther the match. And right now, out of the two, Gunther is the one who is most vulnerable in taking an L in this match, the Seth Rollins.

SPEAKER_02 43:54

Facts. Fact. Because if if Seth loses, he just fights another day. But if Gunther Loses, it takes off a little bit of that momentum and heat that he's had with retiring two people recently. So it would make no fucking sense for South to win.

SPEAKER_04 44:10

No. I mean, granted, TKO's done a good job of doing that already, because like but uh I think that was also John, by the way.

SPEAKER_02 44:21

Oh yeah, no. John wanted that. John did that finish. That did you know. He agreed to it. Because it's fucking John Cena. He had the he had the choice of making John C how he would win that. So I may lose that.

SPEAKER_03 44:34

I wish he would have used that same power to dictate how that his his whole retirement tour went, but

AJ Lee Vs Becky Lynch Logic

SPEAKER_03 44:40

neither here nor there now.

SPEAKER_04 44:42

Uh AJ Lee and Becky Ranch.

SPEAKER_02 44:47

I already know we're gonna be completely two different motherfuckers in this. So uh on three, we just gonna say who it is that we want to win as fans. So well it's but it's a little complicated. Nah, nah, nah, nah. Uh, because I already know who you're picking, and I know who should win.

SPEAKER_04 45:09

So, again, on three, damn, who who should win? Yeah. I mean, I mean, sure we can, but like, it it is a bit deeper than that. But like, sure that one, one, two, two, three.

SPEAKER_02 45:22

Becky.

SPEAKER_04 45:23

Yeah, AJ Lee. But here's the deal, though. Because it's like, as a fan, yes, I would want AJ Lee to win, uh, but my reasons for wanting AJ Lee to win is because in this particular, like it when it comes to this intercontinental title situation, right? And when you look at Becky Lynch or AJ Lee, it it for me, I would rather have AJ Lee with the Intercontinental title and Becky Lynch go on to actually getting back to doing like main event winners championship. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 46:02

See, while I want to agree with that, I truly feel like because Becky has already overshined too much in the world title area, it's kind of like her in the IC title area gives people like Stephanie Valkyrie to shine. It gives people like Rhea to shine because Becky's already done it so much. So, like, would you rather see her with a world title than an intercontinental title right now?

SPEAKER_04 46:26

Um, no, I I wouldn't rather see her with anybody. But if you had to choose. But if I if I had to choose, see, facetiously, I would say intercontinental title because no one cares about the intercontinental title. And so therefore, there's better women that I would prefer to see in the heavyweight title spot.

SPEAKER_02 46:51

And that's kind of where I'm at. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 46:53

But it's like, but I would rather have Becky Lynch be in a higher title spot and AJ Lee have a reason to fucking still be here.

SPEAKER_02 47:06

But that's the thing, though. So the reason why I feel like Becky should win is because Becky will be there Monday 90. AJ won't. AJ probably's not gonna show up to another fucking month from now, if not the next pay-per-view. Because we've already seen that she has a three-year contract with WWE, but she don't be showing up to shit. So I'd rather not, as a fan, no fan wants a belt that is not on TV every week. And I know with AJ, it's not gonna be on TV every week if she wins. We might see her, if not every other pay-per-view, because that's just how it is. And then two, who the fuck would she go against next?

SPEAKER_04 47:46

Well, she's got a litany of other people who like there's there is a story to be told with her and Roxanne Perez.

SPEAKER_02 47:53

There is? Okay. Actually, I feel like that would be a mania match better. Honestly, that could continue, continue, continue. You're not wrong. But like, but I could see sorry, sorry, sorry. It's only because of WrestleMania 17 kind of vibes where they show, you know, Roxanne growing up and then look idolizing aging.

SPEAKER_04 48:16

Oh, yeah, no, that video backup promo. They completely like screw the pooch on this WrestleMania. Because yes, that very well should have been what happened for this wrestle. Was she injured? Uh yeah, she was. Okay, that's why. Okay, so she got she literally just came out kind of thing. And so But like, but but like I said, that is that's the fan in me, and and how the fan sees and would would wish that that would progress as. But the booker in me is seeing Becky Lynch being the person who wins more kind of thing. But story-wise, it kind of fucks with me because like AJ Lee's been getting the has been getting the dub this whole time, but then just that but now she fucking loses. Okay. Alright.

SPEAKER_02 49:09

Okay, I see what you're saying. So you're saying she's constantly winning and winning and winning.

SPEAKER_04 49:13

Didn't have a because it's like, I mean, like this match really, in my opinion, really shouldn't have, shouldn't be happening. Like, we should be done with this story, but we're still harping on it. Now, the only other way, the only other thing that excuses this would be Becky Lynch goes into this match, and then someone interferes and and causes AJ Lee to win. At that point, that's the that's really the only way.

SPEAKER_02 49:41

Oh, so like say, hey, Ross and Perez, then start that feud.

SPEAKER_04 49:45

Yes, but that's not what's gonna happen. We're gonna get something like fucking natty or some dumb shit or whatever. So, but it's like for Becky, it's like for Becky Lynch to win this, she can't win it clean, and she has to win it, she needs to win it extra dirty and have somebody now on her side, maybe some new woman that's coming up from NXT to interfere and cost AJ Lee the the dub.

SPEAKER_02 50:12

I really hate when they do that shit, actually, but I I know what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_04 50:15

Like that, because like when you look at the matches they've had up until this point, because they've had their one-on-one match already. AJ Lee wins. AJ Lee has won all the matches up until this point, which is why as a booker, it makes sense for AJ Lee. There's there's there's a merit for why AJ Lee should lose, but it's like they gotta give me something different to make Becky Lynch has to do something different to give the reasons why she can beat AJ Lee today, but she couldn't beat her to a month or two ago.

SPEAKER_02 50:55

Oh, so like, okay, so um give me a merit or a reason why I should care in Becky winning because if she couldn't beat her clean the other two times, three, four times, so then what is she doing different this time to take the win?

SPEAKER_04 51:10

I mean, obviously you'd be cheating, just using the belt, like maybe But then but it's like it's gotta be it's gotta be a higher caliber of cheating because in in the previous match that they had, she tried to cheat there too. Kind of thing. It would have made more also extra sense if this was like a like a big blow-up match, like an Iron Man match or something. I mean I mean, even with that logic. Like I'm sorry, a match with a stipulation. Let me just put it that way.

SPEAKER_02 51:33

Yeah, even even with that logic, I mean, honestly, the match is like you said before, it just doesn't make sense because it's like it could like if they did a submission match or something. Yeah, but I'm just saying, in general, if you're if we're going off that concept, the match doesn't make sense, and it's really just for mania. It's really just to be like, hey, you know, get these two people at Mania. It's the biggest spectacle of the world because yeah, I can see where you're coming from with AJ winning and why it might be effective for AJ, but personally, I just see it as in the sense of I know Becky's gonna be here tomorrow, so I'd rather her have the belt so I can still see it on TV rather than a person who's gonna be gone for months. You know what I'm saying? That's that's where my logic goes as a fan, as a booker. I feel like they're going to make Becky win because Becky has done it with Valkyir, where oh, Valkyir wins three times, and then Becky wins it when it really counts. And that's uh when the title was on the line, and remember when she made her hold it around her waist and stuff like that? And in this same situation, Becky loses three, and now it's Mania.

SPEAKER_04 52:36

Which funny enough, they actually kind of like made that whole thing, like the last little spot that they had with each other.

SPEAKER_03 52:43

Becky's all like, you may have beat me before, but this is WrestleMania. The last WrestleMania you had, you lost.

SPEAKER_04 52:51

Alright. So which also is another thing that's all like, okay, so the last WrestleMania AJ He had, she lost that mania. And they may and they went out of their way to point it out. So either they're going to do the whole thing where they're gonna keep her losing at the WrestleMania and Becky's thing be fine, or AJ Lee puts Becky down for the final time type situation. But for Becky to win this, if she wins it and there is like no interference, like a physical person comes out there, because when they have this match, this is going to be this sh this is supposed to be the the ending feud match. This is in universe mode, or I'm sorry, in uh uh uh GM mode. This is this is the fourth week, and this is the pay-per-view where you gotta get the payoff and before the mat before it goes stale, even though it already is, but we're gonna ignore the fact that this is stale. This is that this bat this this has gone to its four-week period, and now this is where the big payoff happens. And usually after that big payoff happens, there is a cool down period where these two do not need to be in a match with each other, otherwise, people are gonna consider this boring. And so, if Becky Lynch wins, if Becky Lynch wins, Becky Lynch it has to be in a way where Becky Lynch can go off and do Becky shit, and AJ Lee has a hook for something else for when she comes back in about two, three weeks, she can address the person who made her lose to set up her next match. That's the booker in me.

SPEAKER_02 54:40

Alright, well, let's go to the next one because I feel like we can talk about that one for hours

Women’s Tag Title Four Way

SPEAKER_02 54:45

or how the frustration behind that one, but what we got next?

SPEAKER_04 54:49

It's the Fatal Four Way women's title match. The irresistible forces, the best friends, the other best friends, specifically by uh uh Bailey and Lyra.

SPEAKER_02 55:01

You're talking about the tag match, right? Yes. Okay, you made it sound like it was a single song, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_04 55:06

No, I said fatal four way.

SPEAKER_02 55:07

Yeah, you that's what you said. You didn't say fatal four way tag.

SPEAKER_04 55:10

Well, I see well that I thought that was implied with saying that it's the women's tag match.

SPEAKER_02 55:15

Uh that part I didn't I my brain just heard Fatal Four Way and for have for a title, and I didn't I didn't hear that part.

SPEAKER_04 55:20

WWE Women's Tag Team Championship Fatal Four.

SPEAKER_02 55:25

I didn't hear the tag part, continue.

SPEAKER_04 55:27

So the Booker well, the fan in me doesn't care. And the booker in me Bella twins.

SPEAKER_02 55:41

And I hate it. I I really hate it, but the but the Bellas, they really want to put the belts on the Bellas.

SPEAKER_04 55:48

And this is how you know that this WrestleMania, as I will continue to repeat, is the most corporate WrestleMania we've probably ever had. Yeah. Because when you look at this match, and not even just this match, look at how this match has been been been thrown at you here, okay? We have throughout these weeks, we have Nia Jackson Lash Legend, for all intents and purposes, putting their big foots in their mouths and causing themselves to have to have this match b because they're being dumb, interfering in matches and and and making them not come to a conclusion kind of thing, and then jumping all these hoes. I'm sorry, these girls. I'm just being dumb. All right, Godfrey. I'm being upset. They didn't deserve that. I'm just I'm in my fields when it comes to the this pay-per-view. So bring it back real quick.

SPEAKER_02 56:44

All right, Jay.

SPEAKER_04 56:45

When it comes to these females in this match, right? It's like, number one, I feel like Nya Jackson Lash Legend, as a fan, I want them to keep the belt because I feel as if they're getting disrespected and exploited right now. Because like they give these two girls the belt, and they're not actually doing anything with it. It's almost as if they're not the most important people in this match. Are you not familiar how they treat our sisters? I mean, that's that's a whole nother conversation. It is, but I'm but like and that's hard to even say because one of them is Samoan. So it's like damn near black. But IWC don't think that nowadays.

SPEAKER_02 57:31

Man, say that shit to Jacob Fox who he can't see. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_04 57:35

Listen, the black community outside of some folk don't see it that way.

SPEAKER_02 57:38

What do you mean that one bozo ass motherfucker I sent you?

SPEAKER_04 57:41

Not just, I mean, there's a lot of there, I be looking at this comment. There's a lot of black people who are separating Samoans from niggas. Like it's a thing. It's a thing, you know? Hey, yeah, yeah. It is what it is. You know, a lot of people talk about how, you know, give Samoans black stereotypes. Everyone loves them. Give black people black stereotypes, they go nowhere. It's it, I'm not saying it. It doesn't bother me like that. Like, you know, but lash legend, I'm still saying it still. But it's one of those things like I I want them to keep it so that what they can come out of this and then actually do something. Yeah kind of thing. But it's definitely transitional. That's me as a fan. Because as of right now, if they lose, yes, they are transitional, and that tag team means nothing. Nothing. Mm-hmm. Kind of thing. And so it's like Charlotte Flair, Alexa Bliss, Bailey, Lyra, like the going into what I was about to explain is the fact that when you look at this whole situation, it's weird because they've been kind of pushing Bailey and Lyra a lot. They have in this whole in this whole situation, even though like they're almost the most unimportant people in this situation, because they are the ones who have not had the belts. This is true, but and I'll get to the bells in a second. But it's like, because this this whole thing really started between Naya and Lash and Charlotte Flair and Alexa Bliss. Alright, that's where it's really started. And that's where this really should have just stayed, in my opinion, kind of thing. Because it's because of them that they end up losing the belts, and then uh Naya Jackson Lash took it from the Buki Warriors type situation after making Charlotte and Alexa lose the titles. Which and which is another crazy thing, because I'm like, the Buki Warriors are nowhere to be found on this pay-per-view, and I feel as if they have more of a claim to this pay-per-view than Becky, Lyra, and Bellas, but here we are. And so it's like they've been kind of pushing Becky and Lyra and you know Charlotte and them a lot, mostly to me, Bailey and Lyra. But then it's like the Bellas, though they're in this, they have not been present besides twice. And even the two times that they were there, they were barely present for the situation. And so it's like it's gonna be that weird cold going into like we had with with uh with Valkyrie. I'm sorry, not Valkyrie, but with Stephanie, where she wasn't on TV and all of a sudden, like now she's a champion. And then for them to put the belts on the Bella twins, boy, if they want to see the Bellas get booed out of this un out of the state, oh my god. They are technically heels.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:46

I guess they I there really hasn't been a whole uh wait, well, because Nikki's a heel, and because she's aligning with her sister, I mean she's a heel.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:58

Nikki was a heel, but then when she brought her sister back, they were getting cheered and they kinda and then and then they baby.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:05

I think uh if they did, I may have missed that, but I feel like because Nikki Um brought her sister, it gives good vibes and nostalgic vibes, so yeah, they're gonna get cheers. So yeah, they could have probably turned that into a face thing. Um which I think they did. Regardless, I still feel that the booker is going to make the Bella twin twin.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:26

So when it comes to the booker thing, right, as a booker, um like I said, as a fan, Naya Jackson Lash Legends. Same. As a intelligent booker. Bailey and Lyra is the better idea.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:47

You do have a story to go in with that. I mean, I will agree. As a uh intelligent booker, you know, uh, the IQ of who would we say? Who is an intel a Paul Heyman? Uh then yeah, I would I would probably say that would be a very intelligent book.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:02

Yes, as as a intelligent booker who is Paul Heyman. As an intelligent booker who is looking out for the well-being of his company in his roster, Bailey and Lyra should win because their story behind that.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:18

You mean they're building their tag team?

SPEAKER_04 1:02:20

Not just the building of the tag team, but literally a year ago, Bailey and Lyra were supposed to fight for the tag team titles at WrestleMania, and your girl Becky Lynch attacked Bailey from behind, which led to the whole Intercontinental situation. There's a story there. A really nice, good bow on the top.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:42

They haven't said anything about that, have they?

SPEAKER_04 1:02:44

I don't think they've necessarily brought it up, but in their not in their defense, but to further back up the reason why they definitely haven't said anything about it, is the fact that the whole this whole tag team turmoil, fatal four-away shit, there's not a whole lot of conversation that's happened. There's been no promos. It's just girls showing up, girls banging it out, girls showing up, girls banging it out. Tag team match happens, one of the other teammates shows up, disqualification. Disqualification over here. No one's saying anything, no one's talking, they're just doing stuff. And so you could literally go back and watch this like it's a silent movie because there's nothing to be heard to be said. And so, because of that bit is the reason why it's very unimportant, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:42

And more so of a reason why we should just go to the next one. So we both can agree.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:46

Uh yeah, as a smart bucker, uh uh Bailey and Lyra, but TKO's probably gonna give it to the Bella twins to just piss us off.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:55

So I mean, they already are. Oh, god damn. And the next

Jacob Fatu Vs Drew Unsanctioned

SPEAKER_02 1:04:00

one is going to be the unsanctioned match with Jake Ofatu and Drew McIntyre. Didn't they just fucking have a match on fucking SmackDown?

SPEAKER_04 1:04:08

No, that was uh that was just them beating the shit out of each other.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:10

Oh, okay. I was about to say, um I don't like it when Mania does that constantly. What happened to the the moments where we could sit down and have an interview with both people, like you know, Stone Cold and The Rock and then build the anticipation of the match? But when you guys beat each other up every week, what's the point of the match? You've already got your licks in. The match itself is supposed to build like when Austin and The Rock did it back in the day. You know, they did they did one or two smacks, you know, one or two, like I hit you with the stunner and that's it. I hit you with the rock bottom, that's it. And it just built the tension there and then the interview.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:46

Well, I mean, they they had like, you know, backstage vignettes. Like, you didn't see his whole vignette when he was talking about Jacob Fatou and the jail style and shit. Yeah. Like, I mean, they did that.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:57

Yeah, I'm what I'm saying is like, um, you know, whereas this is, I guess, because this feud is nothing about uh reasoning for I hate you or dislike you. And I also feel like with Jacob Fatou, he can't really do like an interview setting. He has to really just be like, Y'all get in front of the camera and I say what I say, you know what I mean. But like putting him and Drew in a like, hey, we got uh Michael Cole was sitting in the middle, hey guys, we have an exclusive interview of this match, but I guess since it's unsanctioned, well, I mean, I I feel as far as the story goes, right?

SPEAKER_04 1:05:30

Like the story is a little weird to me because like this is because this story is stemming off of the heavyweight title situation. Literally. Now, as we if we go back and we look, what we thought would have made the better idea in sense, considering the fact of how all this has been going, because Drew McIntyre, you know, he still has this rematch clause.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:57

Which is why I'm like, why the fuck do you care about Jacob Fatto? But you could be going to Mania for the fucking title.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:04

Yes, because he still has his rematch clause situation. But I think but the story they're trying to tell is the fact Drew might interfere.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:15

For Roadie. Or for Cody. And that would be the reason. So whereas Pat McAfee and Jelly Roll they'll go off in the dust, and then Drew comes in and hits it with the kick. I mean, that would be the make sense story, right? I hate Cody so much. Which I'd be fine with that. I'd be actually okay with that.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:36

I would I would be fine with that because at the end of the day, that is story. And then at the end of the day, it also shows the fact of like it it doesn't beat Cody.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:48

Quote unquote.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:49

It doesn't beat Cody type thing. So it's like, yeah, sure, there's there's a blatant reason why. I mean, granted, that also really kind of oversaturates the match a little bit, but I I mean I'm still okay with it.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:02

It is a mania, it is a mania main event, so it's so understandable. I mean, sure, we got the Avengers that one time. But anyway.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:08

But when it comes to this unsanctioned match, like, I'm not necessarily mad at it kind of thing. It's just a it's just a uh like if the if the heavyweight title was a comic book, this is a side comic book that has stemmed from that, from the mainline book, which many comics do. Because when we get to it, Sami Zayn's whole situation is also the exact same type of thing. Sami Zayn has really no reason dealing with the United States title, but this is stemming off of the whole heavyweight title debacle, because that's where he's supposed to be at, but he this it's a little side mission that is that's supposed to do this. Goes out and loops back into the mini story.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:53

Honestly, and I'm gonna just sidetrack with that since you brought up the Sami Zayn situation. The Sami Zayn situation feels like you know what? I'm a level 50. And I can't beat nobody in the level 60s and 70s, which is the heavyweight division, because they're just too strong. So let me go down to the U.S. title, them niggas is 30s, 40s. Am I level 50? We'll automatically win.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:18

Oh. Yeah, but it's uh Am I wrong though? No, like it no, it video game logic. It does not make sense why he went back down there. To the standard. But it's really just because corporate WrestleMania needs to get as many people to watch this pay-per-view as we can. We need to get as many butts in the seats. So let's see if we can get the Sami Zayn fans to buy tickets to WrestleMania by making him be in some kind of match. But Jacob Fatto and Drew McIntyre, uh, as a fan, um as a fan That's actually a tough one.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:00

As a fan, uh contest. No contest. No contest. I feel like because like Drew is on the best run right now. Drew is you can't Drew can't do nothing wrong. But also, Fatu, I don't need him to get a pin on Fatou, because then like Fatu needs some kind of something. I feel like the best way y'all can do this is if they both jump off of something and it explodes and then you know they're both counted out. Like, I prefer that. Give me that, because in that way, it neither one of them look bad.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:37

Which that's fair. Um, cuz now, as I think as honestly, I think as a fan, as I literally do sit here with a Drew McIntyre shirt on. I as a fan, I and not it's so much that I want Jacob Fatou to win, I just think he's going to win.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:58

He honestly he needs it, but I feel like WWE's probably not gonna give him that at Mania.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:04

No, I mean that's what I'm saying. I mean, he didn't win last mania, so that's what no.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:08

I'm just saying, I don't think they're gonna give that a mania because they value unless Drew is a real man of the business, not saying he's not, a real man of the business will say, hey, no, actually, Jacob needs to go. Oh, Jacob needs to go over. Granted, I'm the bigger star in this situation, I guess you could say, and more people will probably be more excited for my win, but Jacob actually needs to run. Like, they let him have that.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:29

And so, which is why as a fan, I think I I I think Jacob is going to win. But as a booker, I think No contest. Uh well, I mean, no contest. That's that's the that's that's the that's the disconcert in my eyes. But as a booker, uh they're going to have Drew McIntyre win, but they're not gonna have him win clean, if it makes sense. Absolutely. And that's because literally right before this, which is going to be a little unfortunate for for Jacob Fatou, because he kind of did stick his nose and they cut the way that they kind of set it up this, like they almost made it seem like as if, you know, they're gonna get Jacob Fatou dealing with Solo again.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:18

Because they brought that up. Uh yeah, yeah. Well, then, okay, so how about this? Then, yeah, Drew wins because solo gets involved.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:25

And that's that's what I was getting at. Kind of thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:28

Just making it short and sweet.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:29

Because it's it that's the fact that because at that point, Drew McIntyre still Drew, and Jacob Fatou loses, but he doesn't really lose because he got cheated out of it.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:39

He moves on to the that stuff.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:41

And then that gets Jacob off of Drew McIntyre, and now Jacob has someone else to focus on, and that Drew McIntyre, I guess, can go help Randy Orton win the belt or something stupid.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:51

So actually, that would make more sense why Drew would get involved then, because then obviously Fatou is not really focused on Drew anymore.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:58

No.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:58

Because, you know, now it's back to the bloodline shit. So that actually makes. Actually, I think that is exactly what the fuck will happen.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:07

It just sucks for uh sucks for uh Jacob because we really need to get him out of that uh uh that that uh bloodline hell, as as as as some people refer to it as.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:18

But I think that is

Logan Paul Six Man Shenanigans

SPEAKER_02 1:12:20

all of Saturday, correct? Almost. Oh, what was up?

SPEAKER_04 1:12:23

Six-man tag match. Logan Paul, Austin Theory, ISO, speed versus Yeet, and yeah! So's in the Light.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:39

You know Logan Paul's in a movie, right? Um it's gonna be some shenanigans.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:51

I mean, it well of course it's gonna be shenanigans because I still say it's a good thing. It won't it won't be it won't be clean. I won't not even so here here's what I think. As as the fan, right? As the fan, I really don't care, but as a fan, I want the Usos and LA Knight to win. And uh and that's just how I would like for it to be. But as a booker, I also still see the Usos and LA Knight winning because when you look at the story and how everything has come down to it, Logan Paul and Austin Theory, uh uh number one, uh no one really cares about him, but like with ISO Speed, ISO Speed is gonna cause Logan Paul and Austin Theory to lose. Because ISO Speed didn't want to actually be there. He got dragged into this. That's why I kind of feel like he's also cursed.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:42

You know what? You're right. Moving on, uh the Usos in them will win. Yeah, yeah, no. Actually, I forgot about that for two seconds. Yeah, no, he's not winning, they're not winning. Yeah, no, they're not winning. They're not winning. Now, one note I do want to make is the fact that like uh Damn. I was gonna flip some shit, but it was just I was like, ah, fuck. I can't really say nothing about that. But I will say this much. LA LA NAT needs to get the pen.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:09

Also, I also want to make a note that like in the very beginning when we was talking about WrestleMania, I do distinctly remember us talking about the fact that like they like made their last WrestleMania, their car was like fucking limited. There was like four matches each mat uh each night. Yeah. Yeah, they they absolutely said, Oh, we're gonna stick it to that motherfucker.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:28

Oh, it's four night, four matches each night.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:30

No, it's more. Oh Saturday, there is one, two, three, four, five matches on Saturda on Saturday, and on Sunday, oh I'm sorry, five, six, seven. There's actually seven matches on Saturday. And then on Sunday, there is one, two, three, four, five, six matches on Sunday. So they were really stuck it to me on that one. They're like, uh, we'll make you eat

CM Punk Vs Roman Reigns Stakes

SPEAKER_04 1:15:00

those words, buddy. So uh Sunday, Sunday card. CM Punk, Roman Reigns.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:07

Roman Wayne, Roman Reigns is winning. The woman wanes, huh? Yeah, Roman Reigns is winning. As much as I would love CM Punk to win, because I really, I really need CM Punk to have his mania moment. And so that way he could still I want to say, technically, the la the mania moment he had technically was yes last year, but I need CM Punk to have a mania win and for a heavyweight title because we're definitely not getting it next year. So, Roman, as much as I understand that you're like, yo, this is my second mania losing, I would prefer. I would prefer Punk win as a fan. As a booker, we all fucking know that Roman Reigns is winning. That shit. Like, we we know it. We know it. It is the most corporate fucking answer a po possible. Unless unless you're you feel otherwise.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:55

I mean No. Uh if we're like if we're thanking as a smart booker, then no. But like as as far as TKO is concerned, yes, it's it's probably gonna be Roman Ryan to win. Um as far as who as as a fan, see the problem is as a fan, I I never never really had an attachment to this match necessarily. Now, I will say, and this is going back to something I brought up earlier, out of all the matches that are on this card, I feel that this match is the only match that has true heat. True heat. This match is the only one that has legitimate heat that did not have to be full-on manufactured. And that is, for all intents and purposes, have stayed cleared of being uh tainted by TKO.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:56

Almost. No, it's you can remember he said in the promo, so the minute that happened, TKO's.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:01

Well, see, yes, but that has nothing to do with the actual match. With his match kind of thing. That's him addressing the situation. And sure, Pat McAfee also addressed the situation back, but once again, Pat McAfee has nothing to do with this match. But purely off of what I have seen and what's been going on here, right? Um, I think ultimately, as a fan, uh, I feel as a fan, I want CM Punk to win because as a fan, I don't see a reason why Roman Reigns needs the belt. He doesn't need the belt. He's to because it going it all it it it brings up the idea of why you don't want AJ Lee to win. Because Roman Reigns ain't gonna be there with the belt. And that's the reason why it's okay, because it's Roman. But but and and yes, I guess you could say it's quote unquote. Well, I won't say it's okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:59

Unfortunately, because Roman, no knock to AJ Lee, will put asses in seats. Sure. Roman's gonna move the needle more than AJ would.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:15

So when it comes to that, like I could, I mean, sure Roman would move the needle more than AJ would, but also you when you look at the tiles that are being in question and the people who are fighting for it is the reason why. I mean, yeah, that too. So it's like so it's like I can't, like, I can't really it's it's it's one of those deals where it's like I can't make that comparison as an argument because they're in completely two different universes and two different leagues kind of deal. Okay, you know, well like that would be that that like I would say like if we were to bring it to a more of a comparison, that's the idea of AJ Lee being chosen over like Jade Cargill or Rhea Ripley. Now that'd be a more cohesive, you know, comparison type thing as far as who's moving needles type thing. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 1:19:10

Like Okay, well, either way is what I'm saying. If Rhea, if Rhea Ripley was on the same schedule Roman Reigns was, the same shit would still happen. It would still be okay, is what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:23

Kind of. Like I like I I hear it and I'm like, I'm kind of there, but I I don't quite agree. And especially considering the fact that like people don't like the Roman Reigns schedule. We don't. And and it's one of those things like sure, it's like it it's it's going back to the whole corporate situation. And it's like, sure, Roman Reigns, but it's like right now, when you look at the landscape, it's like it makes more sense to keep the belt on punk because like there's there's not not well, not just that, but then there's more stories that can be told. Roman Reigns, put the belt on Roman Reigns, they're gonna work themselves in they're they're going to continue ranging themselves into the ground. Yep. I mean, they're already doing that. And so, like, overall, I I as a fan, I see CM Punk winning. As I guess uh as a smart booker, CM Punk needs to win because that's going to carry the show better than a Roman Reigns winning. But since we're not dealing with smart people, you know, I guess it is what it is.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:37

I guess it's what's best for business, as you would say, but um no, it does business, excuse me. Um, but what's next?

SPEAKER_04 1:20:49

Uh it's the it's funny because like like like after saying all that, like it almost made me like not care about WrestleMania. I ain't gonna like like literally as we sit here and we continue to talk about this, I'm like, man, WrestleMania sucks, bro.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:04

We already said that in the beginning. We just need to, again, I'm getting blazed for this mania. I'm getting zooted and booted. I'm gonna smoke a chicken, and we just gonna have we're just gonna eat food and be blazed. So I'm gonna be really RVD

Jade Cargill Vs Rhea Ripley Debate

SPEAKER_02 1:21:20

in that mode. Jade and Rhea Ripley. Um The fan in me wants Jade to win. Ew. Uh because I mean the faction. I mean, I hope I want her to, you don't just create this faction and then lose the belt.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:37

And that's why the booker in me knows that Jade's going to win. Oh, that's what I'm saying. So as a fan, it it because the fact that you as a fan want her to win, are you saying that as a booker she's also going to win? Is that also what you're trying to say? No, as a booker, I feel Rhea would win.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:57

So it's mania, and I don't think they'll give Jay the moment.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:06

So as a as a fan, I no, get the belt off of Jay Cargo. She don't need it. Not even so much that she don't need it.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:14

Well, the only reason why I say is because if you're going to justify this faction she just created, right? You are justifying this creation. If she loses the belt, she has no reason to have the faction. Because again, they even said we're only here for the notoriety and the fame of you having this belt. So if you lose the belt, there's no purpose of the faction. So that's why I feel like Jade is winning because you you're wanting to build up this faction. Because if Jade is going to be a credible champion, she can't do it alone. She has to have girls behind her.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:44

Which is true. Which goes into my reason why a fan wants her to lose it, because we don't need them.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:54

I just I just rather not, because Rhea, like, I don't want another Rhea reign right now. Because we it's just like it feels like every six months she gets the belt back. And right now, I just I I've been enjoying the EO in the Rio. You know what I'm saying? Like, I've been enjoying that. It's been fun. And I need more of her to do something else besides just okay, cool, cool, cool. I'm gonna go back for the title now. And then it's the mommy rain all over again, and I don't know what stories she could tell me with this belt right now. Like, what's too? I don't know what stories. Maybe you might be like, oh, these matches can happen, but like personally, I don't see any stories right now. What stories do you see with Jeky then? I see uh the story of the faction building and the reason why she's champion, and it gets to a point where you know, as any person that has a faction, you know, you rely on your team so much you start treating your team like shit, and then the team is the reason why you lose the belt, and it gives another person a big up. See, that's that's kind of normal shit for factions, and I kind of feel like that would be the case.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:58

Uh kind of it's but the only thing is the fact that the she well, I can't say she already treats the team like shit, but she literally beat the shit out of both of them and made them be like, all right, we submit. Uh Jay Cargill, um, I need her to lose that belt. Uh that it that is what it cause I cause the team, no disrespect to those ladies, but she's got two no-name people on her team who wasn't doing shit before. And for to make them just be lackeys doesn't make them any better. And Jade holding this title has been the most boring, uneventful shit sitting right next to Step.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:47

So you think so, you think Rhea would do better right now? Yes. What stories do you think Rhea would tell with the title right now?

SPEAKER_04 1:24:53

Listen, when it comes to like what let me put, I would f I could probably come up and stink of better stories for Rhea than anything with Jade Cargill and her goons kind of thing. Cause because uh at the end of the day, also they would just be better because Rhea is also just a better entertainer than Jade Cargill right now.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:14

Okay, that's fact. But like, okay, say now for the situation. Jay loses, what happens to Jay next? What happens to Jade next? Unfortunately, that's a them problem. See, that's what I'm saying. So, like with Rhea, Rhea can take a loss and do something else for her. Jay can't. Jade has to win this, and Jade has to build up to that faction till when all of a sudden, when Naomi comes back, boom, you now have a story, you now have a match. That that would be the proper booking for me. It's just give us so much time to hate because Naomi just had the kid. So give us some more, like another month or two of us to hate Jay, hate Jay, and then suddenly proceed.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:56

Wait, come on, Shannon, and now boom. But see, so you're saying, but that but the only problem with that is the fact that she was a heel when she left, unless you're saying we want to bring her back as a baby phase. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:07

But I don't but she'll be more of a, she'll be probably more of a I won't say tweener.

unknown 1:26:13

No.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:13

She'd be more of an anti-hero.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:15

She, if she comes back, she needs to, she has to, she gotta come back as she got to continue this heel run. Because if you bring her back as a good guy, it's it's it don't run well.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:27

It would make her more of okay, how about? I see what you're saying because she was doing really good heel stuff, but like I'm trying to think about again who else could take the nut off of her in this situation. That would probably make more sense. But either way, that that feud still has to continue. Because they they they never got a chance to close the door on her, did they? Well, as far as her and Jade, yes. Oh, they didn't go. Okay, so they closed.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:54

I could swear they had one more match. No, Jade, Jade beat her ass. Okay, well then never mind, move on. Um, Jade beat her ass. But but as a now, the booker in me is saying everything that you're saying when it comes to this woman's match. And I hate it.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:08

And that's the fact that you know we're gonna have Jade win because you know, we we want to keep her with the belt and we just put this team together and all this other like literally.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:18

You start seeing how that makes sense, right? Oh no.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:21

I already did. Okay, okay. But the thing was, I'm talking as a fan.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:26

Ah, okay. I know if you were talking on a few.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:27

So everything you're saying as a fan is what I would be saying as a bigger.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:33

Okay, okay. Only reason why I say that as a fan, because like I said before, with my like I'm getting too much Rhea and then encouraging in the belt again, it's like, well, other story could you tell right now to me? But that's just my personal opinion.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:44

And plus, if Rhea for me, what story they can tell is they can go back to telling the story that they already was. And that is the fact that Rhea having the title, now we can actually have it because because you know who's not in this whole pay per view? Who should be? We should have Rhea. This motherfucker.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:02

But then are you now gonna do now are you gonna do the feud with them hating each other again?

SPEAKER_04 1:28:05

They don't have to hate each other to respect to have that match. They can respect each other in because and they've already attempted to do it before, where they're like, you know, we respect each other, but I gotta prove myself to beating you. And then, even more so, when it comes to like what stories that we could tell after that, they have that match, and then we turn Rhea fucking heel.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:31

And then to turn on EO? Where, yes, that's what I'm saying. That's the literally the only story I could see if that was the case.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:38

But then once she becomes heel, that opens up so many more stories for her because she's a better to me. I think she's better as a bad girl than she is as this good girl.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:50

Honestly.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:51

And so for her to turn her back on Eo, but that would be the second fucking time. Well, her turning her back on Eo. Yeah. Because if it happened before, no, Eo turned her back. Well, no. Her and Eo, they never like were on each other's side prior. They never wanted each other now.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:08

But like they had, they had like they showed them the matches, whatever, and the respect they have for each other, but then like Rhea would just not like like her. I think it was because wouldn't it um in relation to the match where it was the three-way match, right? And Rhea was just disrespecting Eo. And then it would Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. I think I take that back. So it wouldn't be the second time she stabbed her in the back, but it'll be a similar situation again where they're on opposite ends where one is a heel and one is a face.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:38

Which is fine, because so when we look at the Rhea and Eo situation, they've they've had a slight mutual respect for each other kind of thing, but they're on different teams. EO had goddamn uh Okay, hold on image control.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:55

How about this? How about this? If you are going to say the heel turn is gonna happen, explain to me why was she heel turn?

SPEAKER_04 1:30:00

Why was she heel turn?

SPEAKER_02 1:30:02

To say that she beat EO. Rhea has never beaten EO. That's the story.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:07

So that would be the whole stem of why she would turn heel on EO is because I never Because she'd be doing the thing that we're wanting Cody Rose to do, and that is take that extra effort to, aka, she would have to cut that pro. Like, I had to do whatever I had to do so that I could show my dominance over EO and get my win on EO type deal. All right. That would be the premise of that heel turn. And then because of that, now, you know, EO's heartbroken because, you know, the you know, she's lost her girlfriend now and all this other stuff. And that's cinema of matches. That is a cinema of a situation. And now we have Eria as a heel so that she can go up against much better opponents who are female babyfaces type thing. As where with Jade Cargill, like, sure, we we tack her with these, these, the, the, this, this, this bad girls club kind of thing, but it's like, if she has this bad girls club, like, number one, it Jay Cargill hasn't really been telling a great story up until this point. So I've lost my, you know, want to see her try and be any better than where she's at, because we know it's not gonna happen.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:26

Well, I think it's because again, they didn't have the girls with her in the beginning, and I feel like if they did have her in the beginning, it would have cooked better because she's only had what two defenses. I think so.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:36

Yeah. One of them was against one of the girls.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:38

Yeah, so well, yeah, technically three, because I think it was like one was like an actual main or band. But either, or maybe like a pay-per-view. But either way, I personally just think that. I mean, we will see predictions-wise, what we think will happen. And let's call it a spade of spade. Personally, I don't give a fuck. Uh so it's like I as far as I'd rather be anybody in them two, like together. And I don't want to see the two together in a match. I like seeing those two in general, but them two in a match, it's like unfortunately, Rhea, the way she wrestles and the way Jay wrestles, it's going to clash.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:17

Yes, no, no, like it. It's funny because it's like, yeah, no, I uh uh I don't mind seeing Jade Cargill, and I would much rather just see Rhea in matches. I don't really care for Jade Cargill in matches, because she she hasn't been she has not wowed me in any kind of way to make me really enjoy anything she's been pooping out here. So uh it's the arms, bro.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:45

Um the arms. You know, she's muscular, bro. That's what WWE likes to do. Like to exploit the fact that she's toned. Um outside of that match,

Demon Finn Balor Vs Dominik

SPEAKER_02 1:32:55

what else we got? Is a demon. Oh, the demon has returned. Did you see that photo I sent you where it said uh demon uh demon finball is gonna have that logo of dude wipes on his chest? No, because they love advertising so much. I no, I I I didn't. Check your messages after that. I sent you that shit. I don't think I want to. Alright, so um wins. Sure. I mean, because who else? I mean, like, why why would he keep I mean it he is it Demon has also been included with the Penn Bauer situation. So hopefully, if you're telling him babyface, Penn Bower can go back to Finn Bauer.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:40

So here, this is this is gonna be the bare bones of it. As a fan, yeah, I would rather see the demon win. Uh uh as a booker, Dominic is the triple A champion.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:52

Why is he losing? Because it's not in triple A.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:59

So would you say that about the last time he was no, no, Dominic is winning because because he's also in Judgment Day.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:07

Like I said Unless the demon okay, so unless the demon can do demon shit and give us a reason why he would win. But I personally feel like the demon will win booking-wise too, because damn fan, if you don't let, if you don't say something and create it to give you a chance this dub, bro, it's over for you. I cannot root for you ever again. Like you've lost too many fucking matches for me to ever care as a fan anymore. Bro, you went for the title twice, lost. You're in this situation, and then you lose again? No, I can't. I can't. Can you keep come on now?

SPEAKER_04 1:34:44

Listen, name a win. Now take everything that you just said and then have him lose against the Triple H champion, the leader of Judgment Day, Dominic Mysterio? Dom can take a loss. Now that sounds goofy. Dom losing at WrestleMania with Judgment Day on his side with the title on his shoulder?

SPEAKER_02 1:35:06

The demon can do something beforehand to make sure they can't come out to the ring. He can lock the locker room. There's a difference between Undertaker and I say he can lock the door. Like he could put something in front of the door.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:20

There's a difference between Undertaker and the Demon.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:26

I like uh bro. I mean.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:32

I guess if it does business. Just get comfortable with the pen ballot. No, bro. I can never, I will never take him serious again if you lose it. I swear to God, like, I will, I will, I will literally remove his theme song out of my fucking playlist. And I love his fucking theme song. Hey, you might want to go ahead and just take it. Nah, nigga, I can't even. I can't even. I will take him out of my playlist. Go ahead and take it out. Nah. Nah, bro. Save yourself some time. Nah, bro. I'm telling you, Finn is winning that match. I can move on. Finn is winning that match. I don't

Sami Zayn Vs Trick Williams

SPEAKER_02 1:36:05

give a fuck. He has to win that match. I swear to God. Samuze. Trick Williams. That's not even. Is this even a discussion? No. Trick Williams. Booker and fan. Trick.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:22

So, like, it's not even who's going to win. It's more so why are we doing this? Oh, yeah, that's facts. But at the same time, once again, we're only doing this because we need Trick Williams on this pay-per-view for some reason. So, uh, and we need Sami Zayn on this pay-per-view for some reason.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:44

Can you imagine how that interest is gonna look, bro? Bro, that shit gonna be crazy. Like, uh, like he gotta come out to the limbo the power buffer girl shit. Do the walk, bro, for the for the boogeyman to blame it on the boogie.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:03

If they locked in to such a degree, that would be funny at least.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:10

That'd be fire, nigga. Trick, listen, bro. Do the boogeyman entrance, bro. Have a limo pull you up, and you gotta do the walk at least two, at least two times. That's all you gotta do. You can walk the rest of it, but two, and then pause and do the whoo, and then boom, you good. You good.

SPEAKER_00 1:37:29

Trick William wins because Lil Yachty gets involved and distracts Sammy Zane and all that good stuff.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:35

Oh, you're talking about as in how the finish. Yeah, that will be absolutely the finish. But I just don't need Lil' Yachty there. I prefer him not to be there. Well, he's there. Oh, yeah, we know. I just prefer he wouldn't be. But I think that was cut. That was very short and sweet. We all both know that Trick is winning, so. Um, last two,

Oba Femi Vs Brock Lesnar Chaos

SPEAKER_02 1:37:55

it's going to be the one that we all give a fuck about. The only one we only give a fuck about. Oba family versus fucking Brock Lester, bro. Oba, you better win this shit. You have to win this shit. There is no other option besides you not winning this shit. Now, if you don't win, okay, you will not be avenging our brothers, and that's unfortunate, but you know, we put a lot of stake in you, bro.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:25

So I saw a video.

SPEAKER_00 1:38:27

Because this kind of goes back to a small bit that we uh talked about near the top of this whole thing, and that's a video then the video was literally just a guy saying, like, hey yo, if Oma Femi loses to Brock Lesnar, we gotta off Triple H. We just we just gotta we gotta unalign all that.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:47

Like, there's there's he just needs to he's gotta stop breathing after that. And though I don't quite agree with it, what I will say is the fact that if Oba Femi, Trick Williams, and Javon Evans aren't main eventing next year's match for WrestleMania?

SPEAKER_00 1:39:21

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not even talking about for next year. I'm talking about for this right now.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:27

If those three guys, if out of those three guys, none of them wins at this pay-per-view, Triple H will go missing. It's not because I want him to, it's because the black delegation, the the I the black delegation, the African American IWC, with the way that they are becoming very high on on the black talents and wanting to revoke the uh the the the the the end card from Are you telling me they're gonna spin the block on a hunter, bro?

SPEAKER_02 1:40:10

Think about it though.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:11

No, I'm just saying that the black community's like, bro, bro, when you if you when you look at what the black community's been talking about a lot recently, right? Because as we all know, there's this whole stigma about the fact that Triple H don't like black people, apparently, and how Triple H is or not just Triple H, just WWE keeps the black man down. You know, black guy could be over as hell, but he'll never get the heavyweight title type situations and stuff like that. You know what I'm saying? So it's like with that in mind, and the fact that, you know, black people are so upset right now to the point where they're like, Samoans aren't black people.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:50

They they don't count, they don't they don't count Oh, like it's in WWE saying, hey, here's your black representation right here.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:57

Yeah, and so it's they're you know, they're like, you know, Usos can walk around with fitted caps and and and grills and chains, but we have not seen the street profits in years type situation. You know what I'm saying? You know, like we can, you know, we can have Nia Jax and all this other stuff, but then like our other black women like B Fab and all of them don't get no love from.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:22

You know what? They're saying here damn Jay's champion.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:26

And which is unfortunate because the the the she's not good as a champion in shows. And so it's like what I'm saying is we have three extremely amazing African American talents, right? And what people are saying is the fact that this these guys, these three are like black excellence on a silver plaque. Oh, absolutely, right next to a Bianca Bel Air, okay? She's just not here because she's hurt, kind of deal. But it's like if they drop the ball on these three black men who are extremely over, who are literally just to the moon, for hit for them to like, for all three of them to somehow not come out on top, black people will riot. That is they are they black people will storm Connecticut like the white folks did on January 6th. Alright? It's and that's just the truth about it here. Because Sami Zayn Trick Williams, even though there is a small, a very, very small part of me, more so the hater part of me, that's all like, you know what? I think you'll be real funny, and I like to see everybody's faces if Sami Zayn wins this bitch. You wanna see, you wanna see destruction. Uh as a brother of destruction, uh, yes, I will choose chaos every single time.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:13

You know what? You you you apparently been hanging out with Killer Croc too too much, bro.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:19

Every time. So if chaos means that Sami Zayn comes out on top and beats Trick Williams, however it may be, I'm a happy camper.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:31

Granted. And I say, okay, okay, so it's the same thing with Brock winning? Is that you want to see that chaos too?

SPEAKER_04 1:43:38

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:39

God damn it.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:41

Yes, I do. You is a wow bungee. I now granted. I want Oba Phibi to win. All right, let me be clear on that. I want him to win. But there's a difference in between me wanting him to win and what I wish I could see.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:01

Y'all hearing this, bro. Don't y'all, y'all hearing this. So he's cool with the behavior because he wants to see chaos. I just want y'all to realize that. Just a little bit of chaos.

SPEAKER_04 1:44:12

Now, I can't say that I'm cool with the behavior. No, I'm not, I'm not okay. But like, like, bro, like, so Brock Lesnar winning this match, right? It's it it doesn't make sense. I mean, granted, and I and and I I also need to put this out there. It's funny how they tried to pull the wool over our eyes. Because remember in the beginning how we will say the fact that it almost does not make sense for Oba Femi to just now, out of nowhere, want to fight Brock Lesnar? Yeah. You know? How they've somehow mitigated that and tricked our minds to forget that. To forget that whole situation. Is that really good segment is by giving us these segments. Now, I was expecting Oba Femi to say, give us a reason why he came out there to fight Brock Lesnar. But instead, we get Seth Rollins presumably saying that I set it up and gave Oba Femi, you know, the nudge to do it. The the the nudge to come out there and handle Brock Lesnar so that Brock Lesnar can be out of my way. So it's like they make it seem like it was like a small deal between Seth Rollins and Oba Femi, which is dumb, in my opinion. But it's but that was.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:29

It'd be dope if Oba said, yo, as as the as the ruler, I need to take down the biggest.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:35

You know what? It would have been dope if Omafemi said anything. Alright. Omafemi, Omafemi has not said one word. Because the ruler doesn't need to. He just is just meat, no bread, no water. I'm gonna need you to stop disrespecting Omafemi's butt. Uh that's what book that's what book Booker said. Then let him, all right, that no water, no bread, just yeah, yes, he says it, but he says it in his Booker T voice. Uh not in this this this fake Nigerian voice that I'm sorry for my friend.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:16

Okay. Okay, so I can't replicate something. Uh, okay, granted, it's not my culture, but it's a sub. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:46:25

All right.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:25

Look, hey, bro. Anyway, hey, bro. Anyway, anyway, anyway, anyway. Everybody else can do it, but I can't. All right, that's great.

SPEAKER_03 1:46:32

Uh listen, just just be careful with doing that kind of shit, bro. That's like going out and just be, you know, that's like going out somewhere and just start, you know, trying to do all the uh the patois talking and everything.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:43

Like that gets frowned upon these days, bro.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:46

That's wild because everybody loves doing Jamaican shit, and nobody gets frowned for that.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:52

You just don't hear them say it. But as someone, as someone clawed. Listen, as somebody who knows a full-blooded Jamaican, they fucking hate that shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:05

I never see them do anything about it.

SPEAKER_04 1:47:08

Because then Jamaicans would get get get get get in a whole lot of trouble for for offering these people and making them disappear like Triple H will if none of these niggas win.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:18

That's probably gonna be half of them that's gonna be doing it. But anyway, uh so the final match, because we already both came to the conclusion that it's Oba Femi.

SPEAKER_04 1:47:25

So Oba Fammy. But for chaos reasons. Just just to see everyone blow up. Why if we're here. Why not let Brock Lesnar win? You know, that this is the corporate WrestleMania after all.

Intercontinental Ladder Match Picks

SPEAKER_04 1:47:40

Now, this match, I really have no clue. Intercontinental Championship ladder match. We got Pinta, Javon Evans, Dragon Lee, J.D. McDuck, Russef, Ray Mysterio.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:54

We know who the fuck's not winning. It's definitely not Rusev. Well, damn. A disrespect. I'm not, it's just how WWE sees him, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:48:04

I mean, he did job out to overfitt me, so you're not wrong.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:08

Um and and and Seamus. So I think And he's on main event. Oh, I didn't know. Seamus was gonna be able to do it. Yeah, that's it. No, no, no. Uh Rusev is only on main event. Oh, well, at least he's still wrestling. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's why I know he's not winning because he's only on main event.

SPEAKER_04 1:48:26

Because they haven't, they don't have anything for Rusev, unfortunately. Honestly, like, so as a fan, as a fan, I want Javon Evans to win.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:36

I'm not gonna lie, I will agree, but you always know it's to we die.

SPEAKER_04 1:48:42

Now, as uh booking reasons for booking reasons, I would I I would give it to I would let Pinta keep the belt because he's the one who created this this this whole situation. He put himself here. I will but I would I want Penta to win more so because I see him more than just a transitional champion.

SPEAKER_02 1:49:08

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:09

And so as uh for for booking wise, for booking wise, it doesn't him losing doesn't necessarily hurt him, but it does not do much for him if he loses. He I think he he gets more out of winning than losing. However, giving Javon Evans the Intercontinental title in a match like this would be great, I think. However, the only issue that we do run into is the fact that it kind of puts Penta in a weird spot because then what are we going to do with Penta? I mean, he sh he'll get his he'll get a rematch, but then it's like put him in a tag team with his brother finally, goddammit.

SPEAKER_03 1:50:00

Which is funny 'cause like when we when they said Ranger Stereo was like, dang, you know what, this match would be great, but we got the wrong brain here.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:14

Is his brother on uh uh Oh so he's not on superstars?

SPEAKER_02 1:50:19

I think he is too, yeah. But he's originally supposed to be SmackDown.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:23

That's why I was like, cause uh cause we haven't seen him. I when was the last time we've seen him? He was on superstars, actually.

SPEAKER_03 1:50:31

Oh, so okay. So there's that. But yeah. Um I don't think he's injured.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:40

No, he's not hurt from what uh actually I can't even say that. I have no idea what he's gonna do.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:45

Yeah, he's just not present.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:49

Overall,

Final Thoughts And Live Plans

SPEAKER_04 1:50:50

that is that's that's the WrestleMania.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:52

Yeah, that's WrestleMania. So, guys, I mean, we've given our predictions. We all know it's going to be a shit show, but there are matches that on paper sound amazing, and that could possibly be the fact that we get to mania and the matches are phenomenal. You we never know. We just would say, hey, this would be the worst mania build ever, yeah, but some of the best matches. We don't know.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:16

That's where I feel last.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:19

Never mind, continue. Yeah, yeah, definitely wasn't last year. Um, but what do you guys say? Please let us know in the comments what are your predictions? Give us your entire card, give us your booking, and give us your fan opinion on what is going to happen for many. I would love to look at the comments and see what you guys say because honestly, anything is better than what the fuck we got.

SPEAKER_03 1:51:39

So, we gotta tell them about what we plan on doing for WrestleMania.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:48

You mean the oh, you mean like after the after mania? So, here's the deal, you guys. What we're going to do, we're gonna try something different. We haven't done it before, but we're gonna give it a shot. WrestleMania is two nights, okay? Um, we're not going to do one big ass podcast about each night of WrestleMania. That's gonna be crazy. And so, we've come up with this idea, and that on Saturday and Sunday, instead of doing our standard podcast, we're gonna do it live. And by doing it live, we're gonna do it live on YouTube as a double feature. We're gonna, as soon as WrestleMania is done on uh Saturday, and as soon as WrestleMania is done on Sunday, we're gonna do the live podcast, which means I'll be able to be in the comment section and the little chat thing, because there is a little chat situation, so and we'll we'll give our bits, we'll give our talks on it, and uh come through, hang out with us. You know what I'm saying? We're gonna be talking about how we feel, and hopefully chaos will rain, maybe, you know? Because at least when it comes to chaos rating, at least it's entertaining.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:07

As where I mean, yeah, we can look at uh uh Dan Hauser and see that chaos is rating and it's so much fun. I ain't gonna lie, that's WWE's best signing in a long time.

SPEAKER_04 1:53:18

It's Dan Hauser is Yeah, Dan Hausing, I think. Go ahead and curse WrestleMania.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:23

He you know, if he comes to WrestleMania says that actually as a fan, we can all say, hey, the WrestleMania suck because Dan Hauser cursed it. I feel like that would make so much more sense. I mean, yeah, that would be great. I mean if he cursed TKO too, then the whole if he came before the whole ticket pricing thing and he cursed TKO, he could be he could be the person that would make it make sense, but as a fan, you can't hate him. You would just laugh at it. But you would still be pissed, but you would laugh at it. Let's be real. Man, he cursed TKO. That's why it's fucked, bro.

SPEAKER_04 1:54:01

Damn, man. Well, see, no, he would have to curse WWE.

SPEAKER_02 1:54:06

Okay. Yeah, yeah, WWE, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:54:08

Yeah, he cursed WWE, and now TKO is fucking him. But but yeah, WrestleMania, both nights at the end. We're gonna do it live, and it should be fine.

SPEAKER_02 1:54:20

Absolutely. So, as always, and uh the the Big Brothers of Destruction podcast, we'll be having more guests with us because we have Ray, who was on here previously, we're gonna be posting his episode, and we have other local talents, and hopefully people that you guys might want to see on here as well. People say he might want to actually show up for the for the right for us. Uh I bet. Anybody else is down for it, we're down for it. But like I said before, uh, anytime you're here, the questions are real. The ring is sacred, but the destruction is guaranteed. I did that completely reverse. But it's the Masaku. No, no, you can say that. No, no, no, no, you apparently said it was ass, so I'm not gonna use it no more. You didn't like it because I had two options. I had Doskoi Sigoy, but I was like, that's me saying Japanese twice, so that doesn't you unless you know sumo, and unless you know what Sigoy means, you know what the fuck it means. So But but that's more you it is, but but I'm also but but personally, you knowing me, that also does make sense. I alright. I mean, listen. Personally, dude I'll we'll find we'll find it apparently. Just as wrestling, you gotta find you gotta you gotta go around with some things until you find it.

SPEAKER_04 1:55:29

You know, I mean Chris Jericho said best, you know, sometimes I had some stinkers, sometimes some things were good. So, you know, you gotta get your stinkers out of the way before you find that one that's really good. Anyway. But yeah, Mazaku, it's your boy, Swag Switch in the building. Until next time, guys. Okay.