We need to talk about AEW

AEW can put on world-class matches like it’s nothing, but we keep coming back to the same question: why is all of this happening? We’re giving AEW real praise for the one thing it consistently nails, the in-ring product. The wrestling is strong, the talent is ridiculous, and on paper Double or Nothing should be a slam dunk. But if AEW is “where the best wrestle,” we need the storytelling and continuity to hit that same level, not leave fans to connect the dots after the fact.

We dig into how we watch pro wrestling and why that matters, especially when you’ve been a fan for decades and you know the business side. Do you watch and judge it in the moment, or do you let it sit overnight before you break it down? We also talk about how other commentators and wrestling podcasts can sharpen your perspective without accidentally becoming your opinion. From there, we get into the biggest friction point with AEW booking right now: open challenges, thin motivation, and angles that feel retconned instead of earned.

Then it’s time for AEW Double or Nothing predictions. We go match by match on the threads we actually care about, including Darby Allin vs MJF with the hair stipulation and what it does for the AEW World Title picture, the women’s four-way and the missing “why,” Okada vs Takeshita as a potential multi-part rivalry, and the tag title I Quit match with Cope and Christian against FTR. We also touch the Owen Hart tournament, stadium stampede fun, and the bigger question hanging over the whole promotion: is AEW building to something, or just teasing the payoff?

If you’re watching AEW, thinking about WWE comparisons, and searching for better wrestling storytelling, hit play, share this with a friend who’ll argue with you, and leave a review so more fans can find the show. What’s your boldest Double or Nothing prediction?

Transcript

AEW Talk Is Long Overdue

SPEAKER_02 0:09

Welcome to another episode of the Big Brother So Destruction Podcast. Sugoy, it's the Monster Coup.

SPEAKER_03 0:15

And it's your boy, Swag Switch in the Building.

SPEAKER_02 0:18

And uh as Swag mentioned earlier, what time is it? What time is it? What time is it, man? We're here for a reason.

SPEAKER_03 0:27

What time is it? Oh, you must be saying the fact that it's time for the AEW episode that you've been wanting to do for a while. Yes. Listen, because it's number one, it's long overdue. With all of the WWE shit that's been going on right now, underneath our nose, AEW has been uh at least using the microwave. Got it. Right? Every once in a while, they'll actually cook on the stove. But before I get before we get directly and deep into this discussion about AEW, right, there are two things that I want to get out on the table. And the first thing is, undoubtedly, without a shout of any kind of doubt, I can stand firmly here and say that AEW is truly we're the best wrestler. Okay? There is nothing that I can really say that's against their wrestling and the in-ring performance that AEW gives us on a weekly basis. Compared to last year, the things that used to be egregious, like the extra, extra overselling. I'm sorry, not overselling, uh overbooking of the match. Yeah, overbooking. Uh, the unnecessary false finishes after false finishes after false finishes, they're there. But at least they're getting better at presenting them to us so that it doesn't feel as if they're just doing shit. You know, we're not getting a whole as much of the whole, I'm gonna drop you and do a tombstone to you, and you're gonna kip up and act like nothing happened.

SPEAKER_02 2:16

Oh, yeah, that bullshit. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:18

I mean, I mean, they still have those moments, but it's not as they are not as egregious as they were around the time when we first started doing this podcast. That year that we started doing the podcast, though we did not cover a whole bunch of those particular pay-per-views, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:37

The Billy Goat versus the protostar in that cage match.

SPEAKER_03 2:42

That's all I'm gonna say.

SPEAKER_02 2:44

That was the match that did it in for you.

SPEAKER_03 2:46

That no, that was the pay-per-view. Oh. That was the pay-per-view. It wasn't just that match. Granted, that match was enough to fuel that whole first quarter of the year of foolishness. But that's not the only one. But that was the biggest one that I can point out to saying what AEW used to do, and thank God they've stopped, or at least slowed it down, and it's not as egregious. All right. But aside from that, that is the biggest praise I want to give them, and the fact that nothing is against their wrestling.

Watching Wrestling Like Fans And Pros

SPEAKER_03 3:28

Now, the second thing that I want to do is I want, because I don't know if we've ever really spoken on this, but I want you or I want us both, but I'm gonna let you do it first. Could you explain when you watch, when you sit down to watch wrestling, how do you observe your wrestling? Because I know because we do a podcast, we do look at wrestling in a more in a more in a more uh I can't think of a word for it.

SPEAKER_02 4:04

As somebody said in the comments, we we watch it too surgical. We watch it like it's fucking like we dissect everything. Yes, as a fan who's been watching the product since the 90s, you we know everything now. So because you know everything now, you have to look at everything in the scope of we've both trained, we've both know behind the scenes things in the business. I've worked sound, you know. We also have people who are working back. We have so many things and or knowledge of the business that when we look at it, we are dissecting it in the sense of what was the purpose? Why are we doing this? And is it just for the spectacle of wrestling? Is it for the entertainment aspect? Is it for story? We go into it thinking every scenario and how it could benefit one, the talent and the product itself. And because of that, it does hurt us from sometimes enjoying shit because we are so as as the comment said, technical and breaking everything down. So when I when I'm in consuming my wrestling, I do consume it for the nature of is the wrestling good? I do consume it for that. What I also consume it for is the story, and that's something we talk about here all the time in the Big Brothers of Destruction podcast is where is the fucking story going? What exactly is that doing for the wrestler or the the talent himself? And so when I'm looking at WWE AEW, I'm always constantly thinking of what exactly are you doing for the talent to get them over? Because as everybody knows in the business, that is the point of the business, is trying to get everybody over and get people to watch the product.

SPEAKER_03 5:56

And so, so with the so when you when you turn wrestling on and you and you and it's on and you're watching it, the way that you watch it is you look at whatever is on and you're like, okay, what why are why is this happening and do I like it? Yes. Okay. And then and that's and that and you look at like that from start to finish.

SPEAKER_02 6:19

I again I look at, like I said before, I look at what what benefits the talent, and then am I enjoying it? Yes. I looked at Backlash, which backlash was a sleeper paper or PLE for me. Um, every match was a banger, and I feel like Mania should have been that, right? But it wasn't. Even the Danhouser match was like, this is entertaining. Was the wrestling great? Eh, but it was very entertaining. And for people like the Miz and Kit Wilson, which I hate what they're doing with Kit Wilson because Kit Wilson was supposed to be this thing and he's not. Um I I enjoy what we have with uh wrestling as a whole, but in that paper in that PLE. But when I'm watching AEW, I'm watching it as if I was watching ECW again. Because yes, it is where the best wrestle, but I expect more from them sometimes. Is that bad for me? I expect more from AEW than WWE because it's where the best wrestle. And I would assume that those talents are thinking of what is best for the product itself, right? So one thing I do enjoy that the uh AEW is doing, right? Swerve is a heel again, and Swerve, he he made a post saying, yo, they banned me from coming to the arena, so I don't fuck up Bandino, bro. And I was like, in our reality, that's not true, but it's story. I like that. And that's what I look at for it, my product is like, again, what is the story? What exactly are we doing?

SPEAKER_03 7:57

Okay. Cause, and and and that's going to be important to know, because once we go into talking about AEW here, I feel maybe everyone who watches will get a better idea and understanding of where we're coming from. Because, to be honest, and I'm sure I speak for him as well, we don't hate AEW. We just want AEW to continue to be good and continue to actually exist. Because with the way that AEW sometimes carries themselves, they act like, ah, you know, it's whatever. If uh this keeps going, it keeps going. If it don't, no, it's a good shot. And it's like, no, no, no, no, no, no. We if any but and and they also do this thing for me, it feels like they're content with being what they are and not wanting to be better or to be number one. And I feel as if that's currently where AEW is. They're in this weird space where it's all like, you know, WWE is number one, is the number one uh uh uh promotion, and that's okay. We don't have to be number one. We can we could just be here, kind of thing. And it bothers me because whether if whether or not if I truly know, inside my soul, I know AEW can be better than what the fuck it is right now, and so when it comes to the way that I watch wrestling as a whole, doesn't matter what it is, I when I turn on my TV, right, in my mind, I watch wrestling the same way I watched wrestling before I did a podcast, before I learned how to do a wrestling match, before I trained, I watch it as purely what it is, as a fan.

Analyzing Later And Avoiding Bias

SPEAKER_03 10:04

It's not until after I've consumed the whole thing that I start to analyze it. As a matter of fact, I don't start to truly analyze the wrestling until usually the next day, and then right before I watch somebody else's opinion. And the way and the reason why I do it that way is because I'll watch it and I will digest it as it is, right? Okay, and depending on what I watched, depending on how it made me feel at that moment, if it was egregious, as it more often is, then I will immediately start analyzing and picking it apart and trying to figure out why was this so ass? Why did this suck? Why did I not like this? And then once I make up all those particular things in my mind of the reasons why I feel this way or that way about it, whether if I do it right then and there as soon as wrestling goes off, or usually when it's a good episode of wrestling, however you want it to find good in your own mind, I will be like, that was fun. I enjoyed that. I'll go to sleep, I'll wake up the next day, and then I'll be all like, do I still think that was fun? Do I still think that was really enjoyable? Okay. Then I'll start to think about what at that point now I remembered that happened, because that's also another thing that I do. If I sleep on it and I wake up and I remember everything that happened the night prior, there's only two reasons why that happened. Because it was absolutely ass, or it was really, really good. And I remembered all the things in the segments that happened the night before. So when I wake up that next morning, I'll start to formulate my thoughts, my ideas, how I feel about it, and da da da. And then I'll watch one of my favorite podcasts. And the particular podcast that I watched, he's extremely critical.

SPEAKER_02 12:14

Are you talking about uh the um New York guy? Yes, Jay from New York.

SPEAKER_03 12:20

He's very critical. Oh, absolutely. But the pro well, I won't say about the problem. I would just say, but the thing is, he's critical in a good way. Because there are certain things that he will say sometimes that don't even trigger into my mind because I'm watching it as a normal fan, as opposed to watching it as someone who has a podcast. And so it's like there will be times where he'll talk about how like something was really, really bad. And I was like, I thought it was actually kind of fun. But when he talks about the reasons why it was ass, is I'm like, um, all right, I see where you're coming from with that. I can see how that can be ass. And then usually I'll be like, but was it ass? Or is it just because he's he's oh, okay, okay, okay, I see what you're saying.

SPEAKER_02 13:08

It's like you feel like sometimes your opinion can be biased because of uh a person giving their opinion. So, like, say because you you watch him, right? His opinion now, I won't say it's gossip, but like if you felt like, yo, this was really good, he's a bro, it was ass because this is what it did, and you're like, yeah, okay, you know, I can see where you're coming from, but it becomes biased because you hang on his opinion as a commentator of wrestling. And because of that, it you feel like your your own personal judgment or viewing of wrestling gets skewed because of him.

SPEAKER_03 13:47

It will, I won't say that it gets skewed, it more so helps me formulate and formulate what I feel and what I think about the product. So it's like I will listen to what he has to say as his personal opinion. Now, there are times where I'll listen to what he has to say, and I'm on the complete opposite side of it. But I also get why he says that, but at the end of the day, it still entertained me. Whatever happened on the T. For instance, he's super against this whole thing with Darby Allen having the belt.

SPEAKER_02 14:22

I don't know why everybody's so like really pissed about this. And I'm like, dude, you guys put him as one of the four pillars of AEW. He's supposed to have the belt at some point. Like, when is he? Is he never supposed to have the belt? Is he just supposed to be this daredevil forever? Can he not develop and have a run that may be defining of him? Because, like, look, perfect example is Orange Cassidy. Orange Cassidy is a comedy character at best, but we as wrestling fans know he can really fucking go. And so we gave him a situation where he really can fucking go. And he gave us some one of the best intercon, uh uh, what is it, the fucking um international fucking championship runs ever. Okay. Like it was just perfect. It was like what almost 600 some days or like 300 some days. And it and it and it was great. Every match was a banger. He he he gave it his all, right? We were able to give that to a person where we did not feel that maybe he deserved a heavyweight championship run, and you gave him a title and he made the title special. Give Darby Allen a fucking chance. Like, I don't know why I censor myself, but give him a fucking chance, bro.

SPEAKER_03 15:31

Like,

Darby Allin, Open Challenges, Missing Story

SPEAKER_03 15:32

Jesus. And so as we now really get into this discussion with AEW, right? And this is why I put it that way, because when I hear what everyone else says, right, and everyone's like, nope, this Darby Allen shit is ass.

SPEAKER_01 15:48

And how I feel is the fact that it shouldn't be ass.

SPEAKER_03 15:58

And I don't think it's ass, but I do think it could be so much better than what the fuck they're doing. I mean, yeah, but that's just booking.

SPEAKER_02 16:09

Like, again, you you gotta let it cook. I mean, he's only had how many brains, by the way? But for hold on, first off, are we just gonna ignore his match with Takesha?

SPEAKER_03 16:22

Like, I mean, they ignore the fucking barn burder that was? So, and so, and that's the thing, right? Because what the what the real problem is, is the fact of when it you have to when you look deeper at the situation that we're in right now, is when things start to unravel.

SPEAKER_01 16:43

Okay, so number one, all right, this is the heavyweight title of aid.

SPEAKER_03 16:54

People are supposed to earn matches, and he's just these are the heavyweight title is in a open challenge situation. An open challenge, all right, sure, United States title, sure. Open challenge, whatever, it doesn't matter. But this open challenge situation that we're in, right? Sure, banger matches because AEW is where the best wrestle. But what are these open matches really doing? Do you feel that Darby Allen is any better of a champion having these matches with no real story going on? And then it's like when they talk about people, when you look at how other people, because it's one, it's one of those things, it's like a little trickle-down effect, right? These open challenges for the title where anyone can just walk up and get a title shot. AEW is currently very famous for doing that. There are people who have been on the shelf, ain't seen them on TV in months, damn near a year, and they show up and they get a title shot.

SPEAKER_02 18:08

I I feel that from a rags to riches situation with Darby Allen, Darby Allen was looked down a lot, right? And I feel like this could be the story. I I just truly feel like this is the potential of it. Darby was always told he could never get a chance. And he's a fighting champion who's like, yo, whoever wants it, you got it. Because I know what it felt like to never get an opportunity. And as a face right now, he's giving everyone an opportunity. If you were looked down as a fucking jobber, you're getting an opportunity. If you, you know, been gone for 10, whatever, you're getting an opportunity because you have to prove yourself just like how he did. And I think that's the gimmick for him right now is that he's giving everybody an opportunity to be in his shoes and seeing this is what it takes to be a champion. And you may not have won today, but you know what it takes to fight a champion, and you can kind of prepare for that.

SPEAKER_03 19:10

That's an interesting way.

SPEAKER_02 19:14

Cause I mean, think of like a certain video games, like when you know, when you start the game and you end up fighting the boss that's like, yo, he one taps you. Granted, Darby's not gonna one tap you, but in that scenario battle, you lose, right? But now you can say, hey, I was I I fought somebody strong and I understand what that feels like, and now I know what to do to get to that point, right? And it there's so many scenarios. It'd be perfect example is definitely Mega Man X when you see zero and he beats the fuck out of uh uh the main character, uh the main villain in the beginning, and you see strength, you see what that is, and you I want to be that. And so Darby is basically saying, I may not be strength, but I am a champion, and I've gone through my rags to riches situations, I've been put through glass tables, I've been sat on fire, I've been done all these things, and I am finally a champion. And for you to want to get to where I am, you gotta put in the work, and by putting in the work, I'm giving you a chance to fight a champion, so you now have a goal in mind.

SPEAKER_01 20:17

Fair enough, fair enough. That's not a that's honestly not a bad way to look at.

SPEAKER_03 20:25

But one of the other issues that I have, which AEW has a really bad time with that, is what you just got done telling me. You had to come up with that yourself. AEW has a really bad time of translating these stories the proper in a proper way.

SPEAKER_02 20:47

I I I get what you mean. It's like saying what I just said could have been showcased by verbalizing or actually a story of him, you know, backstage and walking up to a person saying, Man, you know what, congratulations on being a champion, man. One day I want to be a champion or be able to face a champion. Hey, you know what? You got it tonight. What? Yeah, man, you're facing a champ tonight. Like seeing moments of him doing that to a person who is a lower on the card, and just, you know, but every situation is, yeah, he's in the ring and he's like, you got it. But like giving him a chance to be backstage and seeing him in multiple scenarios doing something like that, I could see where you're coming from. Like, there's no visual, there's no actual telling of the story. You just see it through wrestling, which is very much like New Japan and why we always, I've always told you, Tony Khan is a fucking March New Japan. So he tells stories like New Japan tells it. But for us as wrestling fans in America, that is not how our storytelling is. Which is true, but at the same time, unlike AEW, I get it in New Japan.

SPEAKER_03 21:56

New Japan, they actually. Get the story across, whether I know what the language is or not, by the visuals and the things that I see in the commentary, they get that point across. And AEW has not always been this way, by the way. But they have this weird thing with not being able to get their true point across. Now, I could also bring up and talk about their, you know, their inability to like, you know, they bring up a situation that happens and then they just kind of sort of like don't stick to it, kind of thing. But I'm not gonna bring that up because we are heavily seeing that shit in WWE right now, where it's so it's like both are doing it. If not, I think it's almost like WWE is trying to do everything that AEW does, but worse, just to show them that they can get paid more for doing that.

SPEAKER_02 22:57

I think I think WWE should, if if that

Why AEW Feels Retconned

SPEAKER_02 23:00

is the case, they might want to slow the road because if they don't recall, uh game suck ass because blood and gust was better. So if you want to play that game, yes, you have the money. I mean, he's also a billion-dollar kid, too. I don't think he has a problem with flexing the money. It is money, mm-mm, you know, it's all like he's gonna have bands. So he technically can go band for band if he wants to, but he doesn't.

SPEAKER_03 23:27

He really can't. He's the only person who can go band for band with WWE, which which is the part where it's like it frustrates me because as I say and I'll continue to say it, it's like AEW was the gohan to WWE being the Goku. You know what I'm saying? AEW has the potential, has the untapped potential.

SPEAKER_02 23:50

It really do be feeling like WCW though. Like, I don't know if you ever like tune into WCW sometimes. It just like the atmosphere of a WWE arena feels one way, but then you like because you've been there, you know what it feels like, right? But you see WCW and it's like it feels like it's weird in there, like like the vibe is just not the same, you know? Because like, think about I don't know if it's just because we've been in these arenas, so we know what the atmosphere is like. Like you've been to NXT, so when you watch NXT, you understand how that environment feels. You've been to TNA, so when you watch TNA, you know how that environment feels. But because we've never technically been in AEW and seen some of the nonsense we've seen, when you watch it on TV, it feels like the shit's kind of crazy a little bit.

SPEAKER_03 24:37

So the thing I as far as the environment that AEW kind of gives off to me, just from watching it on TV, with the way that AEW kind of runs, it it it really does r seem to run. It runs like an indie promotion that's got stacks in the bank. Yeah. It runs like an indie promotion who can afford to pay their wrestlers, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 25:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:04

Cause like I've been to indie promotions. Quite a few at this point. And I've been backstage at these promotions. I've seen the production, I've seen how they run them, I've seen, you know, firsthand how things get put together, how stories are are sometimes created to a certain degree. Like I've seen some of these aspects. And then I and then, of course, I'm there for when the final product is seen and is pushed and promoted, and you know, and the people who are there at the show, they watch it and they enjoy it however they feel, kind of thing. And I feel AEW runs like an indie promotion who has the money to to put into whatever they need to. It is so because like when you watch an episode of AEW, a lot of the stuff that happens, you could easily say that they probably literally thought of all that shit that day, right then and there. Like there are the way that their stories probably.

SPEAKER_02 26:07

I mean, WWE did that at one point when Vince was there.

SPEAKER_03 26:10

Yes, when Vince was there, Vince is not there anymore.

SPEAKER_02 26:14

But that's what is But what I'm saying is like we're used to that nonsense of like the script for Raw could be this today, and then like day of could be scrapped immediately. So like shit happens on the fly. We're used to that. As wrestling fans, we all should be used to that. So I don't think that's an issue.

SPEAKER_03 26:32

But the difference is is the fact that we only know that because niggas told us.

SPEAKER_02 26:41

So you're saying, in a sense of because of the scenario itself, right? Being that we know it, but like we don't know AEW well enough to know that nonsense. We're seeing it and then saying, huh, what the fuck just happened? Wasn't you just hating this person because of X, Y, and Z? Huh. It don't make sense. And then just like sort of reconning a lot.

SPEAKER_03 27:08

I mean, yes, there is a lot, because so we can say that we've seen that with WWE, but comparably speaking, WWE during even when Vince McMahon was running, right? It's like both have done the thing where they've dropped storylines, all right? Sure. But then, but usually if Vince McMahon was dropping a storyline, it's one of those things where it's like when it gets dropped, they or at least the way that it it used to seem, it would be like, let's say, like, for instance, like something with Kenny Omega, right? One of the ones that I know some people bring up is the fact that like Kenny Omega, so when you go and get your lick back for uh, you know, Kyle Fletcher, you know, literally like fucking you up in the dire particulitis type thing. And now I mean, granted, Kyle's hurt right now, but Kenny Omega has come back at least three times since all that happened and has done and said nothing to Kyle Fletcher. Kind of thing, right? And I'm talking like this is right after the fact that the situation happened. At least when WWE, when they drop something, they're like, hey, listen, we're gonna drop it and we're not gonna say shit about it, not even gonna put the person who was in it on TV for a bit, before we just try and change gears and make some moves, and then then bring this person back and we'll do, we'll try something else or something different or better, per se. Whatever it may be. But it's like there's there's usually a bit more. WWE is always, at least in my opinion, comparing to where AEW is right now, they have and they do a better job of keeping their continuity and keeping some of the integrity of their story, or at least they used to, because now it's kind of hard to say that with the whole uh EO and EO and uh uh Asuka shit with uh with with Kyrie getting uh getting kicked out and everything.

SPEAKER_02 29:12

Well, I mean, uh knowing the situation at hand with Asuka, it it it's not as bad because Asuka would we don't know fully if this is the situation with Asuka, you know, taking potentially a pay cut and saying, fuck no, but I'll do this last match and let me at least do with my senpai, and I'll ride off in the sunset because you know everybody's saying she's semi-retired and she did the whole this uh I did it my way thing. So there's no telling completely because either one, because uh Japanese like to keep very a lot of things private, um, unless there's some kind of leakage of some sort, you know, and they're not really gonna do that. So I know Asuka has probably kept it very zip-zip.

SPEAKER_03 29:56

And if that was the case where she was like, hey, either take a pay cut or dip, and but unless I hear a lot more people saying that that's not the case, and it's the fact that she's got some like family issues.

SPEAKER_02 30:07

That is also what I heard too. But like it was a speculation of why was one of the things was that. But yes, it's taking some time away to be with family in Japan, and you know, she's still post she's posting a lot of memories of like, hey, I'm with these girls and this, this, and that. So it kind of gives that like damn, you you know, you're going back to the memories. Is it done for you for real? But that's besides the point. We we definitely want to get back to the AEW situation where yes, everything feels very retconned at times. One thing can happen, like the fucking United Kingdom situation. Like, bro, you telling me Will Ospreay had his issues with the Death Riders, he brought the United Kingdom, and then suddenly now he's training with the fucking Death Riders. So, like, yeah, shit like that does be like, what the fuck is this? Like, I'm supposed to get behind this suddenly, and I think the only reason why is because the fans against, I guess we're getting behind the Death Riders again or some shit. I don't fucking know. But it's just things like that, I can see what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_03 31:11

When it comes to the Will Ospreay situation right now, right? Cause I am in the same camp as you when it comes to AEW, especially right now with the uh hashtag let them cook, okay? That's actually a hashtag? No, but you might it might as well be because a lot of people are like, all right, AEW, I see you trying to do something here. Go on. Let's let me see what you're trying to do. All right, let's see it through. Let's let's give it a chance. I gotta see it through, my boy. Then with the whole, all right, let's give Darby Admin the belt. What's Darby Ivan gonna do? This sounds like a horrible idea, but let him cook. Give him a chance. Will Osprey fights John Moxley, loses the match, goes on, has this match, about to get jumped, gets beat up, and then Death Ryers takes him in. Now when it comes to that, and that and this goes back to the whole thing where it's like I wish they could give us give us and convey what it is that you're really trying to do. It's like they have really weak writers or something.

SPEAKER_02 32:32

Okay, I see what you're saying.

SPEAKER_03 32:34

Because it's like, okay, cool. John Moxley saves him. John Moxley's all like, hey, you have potential. You could be a killer in the ring, but you're not using your mind.

SPEAKER_02 32:45

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 32:45

And all this other stuff. So I'm gonna give you an ultimatum, Billy Goat. I can either show you how to use your mind, or hey, you can get your revenge for me breaking your neck right now. I'll lay on the floor, here's a chair, snap me up, my boy. He doesn't do it, and he decides to join up with the Death Riders so that he can so that John Moxley can make him a killer. Okay, cool. So now we see these things backstage where John Moxley is literally being a fucking master, uh, running this Death Rider. He's being William Regal all over again. Running this this this Death Rider squad, and and he's teaching Will Ospreay how to, I guess, be this quote unquote killer. All right. So we get these backstage vignettes, you know, he's he's doing his neck exercises, and uh uh John Moxley is out here freaking spilling this fucking Death Rider wisdom and all this other stuff. Will Osprey gets cleared, has a match, and he's still fucking Will Ospreay.

SPEAKER_01 33:54

But he uses the bulldog choke now. Okay, where are we going?

SPEAKER_03 34:02

Why did it why did we get here? Why does John Moxley all of a sudden want to make him this killer? AEW has a really hard time answering the why. And that is like the most important question when it comes to wrestling. The why. Now I can't just say AEW, because WWE currently, oh my god, they don't, they are, they they're actually no longer asking the questions anymore, they're just fucking doing shit. Fucking like it's what was it? Oba Femi, open challenge. Why? Why is Oba Family doing an open challenge? Because they have nothing else for him to do.

SPEAKER_02 34:53

They they that's not a real why. No, no, no, no, no. Well, that is to me personally, because you you blew your you blew your load too quick, bro. You made them fight Brock. Who is after Brock, bro? Who? Who? Okay, dude. Who? Who?

unknown 35:10

Who who?

SPEAKER_02 35:12

Who is after Brock, okay? Nobody else but Roman Reigns. And that's why you're saying, like, Oba Femi is a character where you really only have a short fuse with him on his usage, unfortunately, because he's so dominant. He's so this. Anything you are doing after it be makes him Ryback.

SPEAKER_03 35:30

You would literally start Rybacking him. I mean, they no, they right, they've been right backing him ever since he fought both the tag team war raiders, the Viking Express.

SPEAKER_02 35:42

Which they're whatever you want to call it. Which, which every person he's been fighting so far outside of uh Otis has been putting either AAA or out of the company. Or out of the company. Because uh wasn't it the uh LWO, the last members of L. They recently No no no.

SPEAKER_03 36:00

They were they were the ones, these guys were with uh uh uh a Santos S.

SPEAKER_02 36:04

Yeah, you're right, you're right. Uh Phantasmo, yeah. There you go. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know if they're gone. I thought they posted a poster saying they were leaving.

SPEAKER_03 36:13

So they never specifically said they were leaving, or at least last I seen. I ain't gonna lie, I don't give a fuck.

SPEAKER_02 36:21

Well, there was a post that showed that only one person out of an eight-man tag is still in WWE, and I think it was Phoenix. And all of them were on there. I mean, I mean, well, but I don't think they're like I said, I could be wrong. We could be. I mean, I know, I know the Alpha Academy is on uh main event.

SPEAKER_03 36:42

I mean, well, no, no, well, Alpha Academy is missing, but that's No, they're on main event. No, you you uh No. Alpha Academy, they're gone. Now that new tag team, the the those those Smash brothers, uh what they call them uh um uh uh uh Alpha Academy is oldest in um Tanawa. Oh, you know what? I'm I'm I'm thinking about the Creeds. My fault. My fault. Yeah, the what Oh yeah, you write the Creeds. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like I'm thinking I'm thinking about the new Alpha Academy, which is the Creeds, or they call it what, the the the American American made or American made, yeah, yeah, yeah. Whatever the fuck they are, yeah, yeah, yeah. They're gone. But but there's this new this new this new mask tag team with Wait, wait, they're gone, gone? No, nigga, I'm being facetious. Oh, okay. I was about to say, bro, bro, I'm being facetious because they they're now wearing masks and they're with the new Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:38

Okay. But you also saw that Chad Gable's coming back, right? No, I did not see that. But Chad Chad Gable's coming back June 1st. When they say that. It was apparently a uh I saw it on social media that Chad Gable's returning June 1st.

SPEAKER_03 37:52

Did you verify the the source? Because there's a lot of fake news coming. There's a lot of fake news out there that's just been swishing around in the wrestling circles, and people have been taking that shit up front. You gotta verify everything. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_02 38:10

I I try, I trust me, I trust me, I get that. I just like also saying those things because it's just like it's funny to speculate. Like, why are people say spending so much time to making these fake news or these fake things? It's like, bro, do you not have anything else to do?

SPEAKER_03 38:25

Some of these fake news things be wild, bro. What's even more crazy and egregious when it comes to the fake news, before we get back to AEW, is whenever I see what was it? I it's it's the Friday before the pay-per-view of Backlash, and people are making posts. Jacob Fatou just beat Roman Reigns for the title. They got a picture of Jacob Fatou.

SPEAKER_02 38:49

Oh yeah, like on fucking YouTube and shit, man. It's AI as fuck. And I it's it's to get clicks. Like, you guys gotta get clicks that bad. I mean, like, I get it, it's your job. Some people, this is their job, this is their thing, but like to make fake shit? Oh, apparently.

Double Or Nothing Card Expectations

SPEAKER_02 39:08

Oh, but the biggest thing that we could say with AEW is yes, we could both agree it's where the best wrestle is the reason why I'm watching it. But for what we have this weekend, I believe it is this weekend, right? Oh, oh, it's next weekend. Okay, cool. Uh actually, yeah, next weekend is going to be double or nothing. On a Sunday.

SPEAKER_03 39:29

Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday. And the problem is, granted, we can look at this uh, but I it's like we can look at the current card, but because of the fact we still got a collision, AEW, three-hour AEW coming up, and then uh another collision. Like, I have a feeling this card needs to be bigger because uh by AEW standards? Listen, there's I'm seeing one, two, three, four, five, six.

SPEAKER_02 40:02

Eight, eight matches? That sounds about right though. But you cause you gotta remember the pre-show. He's gonna have three matches in the pre-show.

SPEAKER_03 40:09

Oh, you know what? That because eight, nine, ten. Okay, all right. All right, so maybe that is right.

SPEAKER_02 40:19

Yeah, we never do. No offense to the pre-house. Oh, you watched the pre-show. Uh I watched the last one because uh I wanted to see who would win that that title, and then you saw Jack Perry win in, and it's like, oh you already know my thoughts on that.

SPEAKER_01 40:34

Um well he doesn't have it no more. Well, it depends.

SPEAKER_03 40:41

Oh, that's the ha ha shout shout out to our boy uh uh Lord Zay. Cause uh apparently he does not watch collision. And so, what was it, two weeks ago? He hits me up. Uh it was because it was on collision when the whole thing with uh John Moxley and uh Will Ospreay happened with the whole you know inviting him into the Death Riders. And so I'm watching W I'm W I'm watching AEW, and the part comes on where he comes in there and like John Moss is like, ah, so you showed up. All right, cool. He starts talking to him and giving him the speech and everything, and I get a text message, and his Lord Zay is all like, hey, when the fuck did he join? And I was like, oh, you must not watch collision, huh? Oh, you did no? I I literally I was like, oh, sorry, look, text him. I was like, oh, oh, so you don't watch collision, is that was what you're telling me? And he's like, absolutely not. What the fuck happened on collision?

SPEAKER_02 41:55

Also, Tommaso Ciampa, I'm just gonna say this real quick because I got a squirrel brain moment, bro. Tommaso Ciampa, what you doing, bro? I need I need him, I need him doing something now. You can't just leave WWE and just be another.

SPEAKER_03 42:05

What are you talking about? He's kissing people and waving at him and shit, and working with uh uh what's the uh Stokely and the boys?

SPEAKER_02 42:15

I guess his shadow knows his story. Anyway, let's just go ahead and talk about That's his thing.

SPEAKER_01 42:26

That's the story.

SPEAKER_02 42:32

I'm respecting Tommaso Trump. Anyway, uh let's go ahead and talk about this pay-per-view and give our prediction and see how right we are and how absolutely wrong we would be once uh we make clips of this uh after pay-per-view.

SPEAKER_03 42:45

Alright, so we're gonna get the brass taxes.

Hair Match Predictions Darby Vs MJF

SPEAKER_03 42:48

Darby Allen versus MJF, if they want this shit to really pay off, MJF needs to leave this bitch bald. I don't think he's gonna be completely bald, I think he'll just be buzzed. Nah, nigga. Cut that bitch's hair. Ooh, I don't I don't have it on me. I literally, I think I shared it on the BBOD podcast page, though.

SPEAKER_02 43:07

Why?

SPEAKER_03 43:07

It's literally a picture of uh him but portrayed as bald. Like there's like a bunch of pictures that they had that they showed. Oh man, hold on. Let me see if I can pull it. Let me see if I did share it. Cause I don't there it is. God damn. I'm not gonna lie though.

SPEAKER_02 43:27

This is a fucking look. Hey, if he wants to be uh Lex Luthor, like this is a fucking look.

SPEAKER_03 43:33

If he wants to be Lex Luther, actually, like you wanna start taking this nigga serious, cut his shit. Nah. Cut his shit. Listen, this is a good thing. I'm already taking him serious. This is a dangerous MJF. This is an MJF that actually can flex his wrestling ability and start beating niggas clean.

SPEAKER_02 43:54

No.

SPEAKER_03 43:54

Because he's that fucking good.

SPEAKER_02 43:56

No, no, no.

SPEAKER_03 43:56

I'm here for it. It's it's fucking happening. I don't think it's gonna happen, but if y'all want me to believe this Darby Allen bullshit, cut this nigga's hair. Let him take this out.

SPEAKER_02 44:12

Okay, so uh if that's the case, if that's the case, how is he gonna get? Is he gonna get clean or is he gonna Who Darby Allen beat him?

SPEAKER_03 44:19

Yeah, no, Darby Allen's gotta beat him clean. Yeah I mean it would be great if he also beat him dirty, use the fucking die, use his ring after he tries to find what it is This is a tough one because personally I feel like yes, we want Darby to cook, but I also have a feeling that MJF likes to fuck with the audience.

SPEAKER_02 44:46

But I also understand that MJF also gets the business and that the the the audience will go fucking insane for this.

SPEAKER_03 44:55

Listen, so it's it's a tough one when Kurt Angle got his hair cut and how it's a tough one how entertaining that was. Nah. But here's my deal, though. Because on the MJF side, it's gonna be so entertaining. I will That's what I'm saying. I will easily tune in to watch AEW just to see how MJF is gonna be acting.

SPEAKER_02 45:15

You know what? You know what? He's gonna do it. It it it our Darby, nope, no, nope. I truly believe it now because once you said that, it's going to be TV, and that's what he cares about more than anything is putting asses in seats and people talking about wrestling. So I feel like he will do it for the sake of that, actually.

SPEAKER_03 45:35

But now, because that's the reason why I really want him to take this L. But my reasons why I don't think he's going to take this L is because of Darby Allen. Because if this match happens, right, because right now the feud is between the two of them, if this happens, Darby Allen is now left in this weird space where it's like there's nothing for him to do. Now, granted, one could say, and go with what you was talking about earlier with Darby Allen having this belt, and you know, he's doing all of this to, you know, give people a chance. You know, to give people a chance and da-da-da-da. But it's like that's not going on it it once it breaks off and MJF has to go over ear because he's had his other chance now, and he's lost to him twice. It's like the Darby Allen shtick is gonna get old immediate.

SPEAKER_02 46:37

So then that means something has to happen uh to cause. So it could be one or two things. Somebody either returns or somebody shows up to either cost Derby, Darby Allen to lose or cost MJF to well, because he gives them a reason like, hey, you you made me bald. So that's the feud, you know, him getting pissed off at that.

SPEAKER_03 47:00

So I feel like because what what hurts this whole situation for me is the whole open challenge situation that we got. Because the open challenge, it's I'm gonna call it as it is.

SPEAKER_01 47:15

Spade is spade.

SPEAKER_03 47:17

Having doing open challenge angles to me is a company's way of being like, yeah, we don't feel like trying to write a story, we're being lazy, we're just gonna make them go out there and fight.

SPEAKER_02 47:29

That is AEW, though.

SPEAKER_03 47:32

No, that's just the wrestling circuit right now.

SPEAKER_02 47:35

But that is also AEW.

SPEAKER_03 47:36

I mean, yes, that no, that's definitely AEW. Look at Willow. Willow been out here having open challenge after open challenge after open challenge.

SPEAKER_02 47:44

Well, that's technically the belt itself, though. Every every night. The TNT title, you're supposed to defend it every every night. Since when? That you that was actually the rule back in the day. Because that's what uh Cody did.

SPEAKER_03 47:57

Nah, that's cap.

SPEAKER_02 47:59

That that that is not I thought that was the rule. I maybe maybe, maybe, I maybe I got the shit fucked up. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 48:14

Hey, put it in the comments. Let us know.

SPEAKER_02 48:16

Yeah, I'm gonna do that. Maybe I'm fucked. Maybe I'm tripping. Maybe I'm tripping.

SPEAKER_03 48:19

Who knows? I I don't know. And because the belt's not being made that important, I don't care.

SPEAKER_02 48:27

Well, before we go into that match, again, let's give our final thoughts on Darby Allen and MJF, who's winning.

SPEAKER_03 48:35

I want I want Darby Allen to win the entertainment.

SPEAKER_02 48:38

Not not not not that. We're talking about what exactly is the answer, just definitive answer.

SPEAKER_01 48:43

Oh, MJF's taking about that.

SPEAKER_02 48:45

MJF's taking about.

SPEAKER_01 48:47

I feel transition. God damn, nah, I ain't saying that shit.

SPEAKER_02 49:02

But then, okay, but how mm? Alright, I'm gonna give my answer and then I'm gonna ask you this question. I feel like Yeah, MJF might actually, I might have to take it back. MJF might win this.

SPEAKER_03 49:19

But at the end of it, when you come out of this, as far as spotlighting the AEW title, making it important, Darby Allen isn't doing anything to make it important. The only reason why this story with Darby Allen is even remotely interesting is because it's revolving around MJF. And Darby, and Darby Allen in in a way you could say is like, you know, like, hey, I'm giving this person a title shot. I'm giving this person a child, but I'm not giving it to you, kind of thing. MJF gets that belt back. Now it's important again. Darby can go back to chasing it and cause because he's not. Oh, so you're saying he's Stone Cold.

SPEAKER_02 50:01

Because, you know, Stone Cold, he said it himself, he did not like having the belt long. He said the chase for the belt is what was better for his character.

SPEAKER_03 50:08

Well, I'm saying that as an observation. Because outside of the fact that sure, AEWs were the best wrestle, what has Darby Allen done to make you care about this title? The answer to that question is challenged MJF and made him put his hair on the line. That's the answer to the question. Because prior to that, all he has done is proven AEWs were the best wrestle.

SPEAKER_02 50:46

And maybe that's just what he needs to do, is he's the title reign where it's the best wrestle. Maybe that's his title reign. You know, I don't want to defend it too much because yes, we we there's nothing. Yeah, there is nothing. But it's just the fact that yes, we are very big on story and we're looking at the situation and saying, where's the fucking story? But maybe the story is that he's just we're the best wrestler. I don't fucking know. Anyway, let's just move on for that shit because we'll be there all goddamn day.

Women’s Four-Way Needs A Why

SPEAKER_02 51:17

Uh next one is the four-way match, right?

SPEAKER_03 51:20

Well, it there's no quite uh Well, I'm just going off of your the sheet you have. Oh. Uh yeah. So this match proves the whole idea of the fact this is where the best wrestle, because everybody's a baddie.

SPEAKER_01 51:38

Well, not that, but there's there's really no reason for this match. Tecla Cheetah. Uh Statlander and Hater.

SPEAKER_02 51:49

Well, that's gonna be that's gonna be ooh. You watching it for the wrestling, but you're gonna be watching it for a lot of other reasons.

SPEAKER_01 51:56

Why is Tecla and Hater for Why is Statlander currently here?

SPEAKER_02 52:07

I can see uh Homegirl. I can see why, because she's never actually had a chance to go against her. She's technically winning against both of these women already.

SPEAKER_03 52:16

Tecla beat uh uh uh Statlander for the belt. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 52:20

And then didn't she beat her twice? Yeah, for the title she beat her for the title and then you know the the she lost the the the the grudge. Yeah, and then hater, same way.

SPEAKER_03 52:30

Now did these crushes now now with Hater, out of everyone who was here, I can kind of give Hater a little bit of a because you know she's been winning matches per se, but like unless I've missed it, I haven't seen anything that showed why Jamie Hayter became a number one contender in any kind of way. I didn't I don't I don't remember seeing nothing like that. And with Sheeta, I know there's absolutely no fucking reason why she's in this match.

SPEAKER_02 53:01

Cause it works for her brother. Cause it works for uh only because she did that meme, yeah, I don't it only makes sense. What meme? You don't remember when she uh was doing an interview, and it's like she was doing an interview on Hey AW, and the interviewer wanted her to read the line. That doesn't work for me, brother. Nope, missed that. Yeah, I I've used it in a couple of the clips. She's in a red like outfit and she's reading off a piece of paper. How long ago was that though? Uh very long. You're talking about the me using the clip or her actually doing it. Yeah, her actually doing while back. Okay. That has absolutely nothing to do with it. Oh, you're right. I'm just I was just just just being facetious and saying that works for her brother.

SPEAKER_03 53:47

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 53:48

She's using her Hogan uh abilities to to get in the ring.

SPEAKER_03 53:53

The point I'm getting across is this match, sure, it's going to show just like how you were saying Darby Allen is the place where the best wrestle. But why it's happening, the the logistics behind the the the why I should be invested into this particular match?

SPEAKER_02 54:13

Because it's gonna be a good wrestling match.

SPEAKER_03 54:16

So hopefully keeps that title and not hopefully she better. Because uh it would be stupid for her to lose it here. Or maybe it might be smart for her to lose it here because there's these rumors that Mercedes is coming back, and we already know she's getting this title when she shows up. So hey, put it back on Statlander so that she can get the belt taken away from her because fuck Statlander, right? Goddamn, oh my lord.

SPEAKER_02 54:47

Bro, what is Statlander? Statlander. Oh no, I agree with you. She's generic. She's generic wrestler number seven. I've I've already mentioned that.

SPEAKER_03 54:56

Like, so from the time that she's lost this title, Tech was been out here being the best woman's champion that she could possibly be without having any real reason to be defending her title against any of these, and I quote, dumb bitches.

SPEAKER_02 55:13

And so That is what she said, by the way, guys. That is what she said. Let's say that we're not. I didn't say it. Yeah, she said it.

SPEAKER_03 55:20

Like I said, I quote. So, as I quote again, these dumb bitches, like when you look at Statlander, right? Because number one, Jamie Hayter, up until literally this point, has been a tag team entity. Her and the brawling birds have been preparing themselves to possibly take on the two biggest females in their company as of right now. But instead, we're taking this quick little sideboat, and she's apparently qualified for the heavyweight title.

SPEAKER_02 55:58

But exactly what I fucking said about Jack Perry getting that title, but go ahead.

SPEAKER_03 56:02

But with Statlander and Sheeta, they have this out-of-nowhere thing where like Sheeta shows up, and all of a sudden her and Statlander are like the super buddy buddy, and Statlander has not said anything in regards to what's going on between her outside of the fact that she was just really upset that she cost them losing the the tag team titles. But like, why did y'all start tagging together? Why was Statlander so against wanting to tag with her because she's acting like I don't want to be here with this girl type situation while she is over here, just all like, and then there's also this other narrative where everyone's all like, you can't trust Sheeta. She's gonna turn her back on you and all this other stuff. So it's like, once again, we're in this weird situation where it's like uh there's things that are happening, but there's not enough explanation of the why they're happening. And that is like the recurring issue with why, for me, AEW is so difficult to get behind because things just happen.

SPEAKER_02 57:16

Again, it's storyline-wise, it's difficult to get behind, but the wrestling you can.

SPEAKER_03 57:21

Oh, I can go right outside this room right now, find two wrestlers to start wrestling in the street, and I can get behind that shit. Because it's fucking wrestling.

SPEAKER_01 57:33

Sure, we could get behind the wrestling, but any brain dead motherfucker can get behind the wrestling.

SPEAKER_02 57:44

Tackle wins, move on. Uh are you disagreeing? Nope. You just skipped one by the way.

SPEAKER_03 57:52

Uh I'm I I was zigzagging. Oh, okay. We'll we'll we'll get to that with

Okada Takeshita And Tag Title I Quit

SPEAKER_03 57:56

a sec.

SPEAKER_02 57:56

Because that one's a no-brainer, too.

SPEAKER_03 57:57

So, first off, I guess I have to uh give it to you that um they're actually finally doing the match, Okada and Takeshka, and it did not take until August. Because I was pretty sure that it was gonna take until their WrestleMania, which is like in August. And yet here we are. Do you This is part one, by the way. What do you mean part one?

SPEAKER_02 58:19

This is gonna be a part one. They're gonna do it again at their WrestleMania. Because nobody's gonna just take a clean finish and then not do it again. Um and they're gonna have a stipulation behind it.

SPEAKER_01 58:34

Uh this should have happened like six months ago. It should have.

SPEAKER_03 58:39

But the thing is, if that's the case, if that is if that is the case, then that would mean Okada would have to win again and he would continue to hold this belt. Um and to be honest with you, um it kind of makes sense because man, oh man, uh Takeshka is having a very tough time with this conversion to babyface because like in my eyes, Takesh has been nothing but losing ever s like literally ever since he lost the the new Japan title, he's he's been the biggest loser I've ever seen. Now, unless they're gonna make him win this belt, but I'm kind of in your camp in the fact that uh he's not gonna win because Okada's gonna wait a second, hold on.

SPEAKER_01 59:32

Didn't these two fight in the Continental Classic? Yes. And Okada won. Yes. Yep. So if that's the case, Takesha's winning.

SPEAKER_03 59:46

Uh I don't I don't know. Nah, I don't think Takesha's gonna win.

SPEAKER_02 59:50

I think Takesha's winning because you're gonna have the match again at the big event, and then that's where either you do one or two things. Either Okada wins, and then Takesha's like, no, I could do it, and let me get you one more time. It's gonna happen at that event. It no matter what. I this is a another teaser match. I don't feel like this is the finish. This is not where you finish this.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:12

You're probably right. Honestly, not uh yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:15

Well, I'll I'm gonna have to stick with that as well. Yeah, either Take Takesha wins or Okada wins from some like the family disowns Takesha and he becomes full babyface.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:25

Literally what I was gonna say.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:26

Yeah, so it regardless, if if it happens, it happens one or two ways. Okada wins from a bullshit finish, and therefore the family disowns him, and you know, Okada wins and move four and he gets that rematch at you know um all in, and uh or Takeshta wins, but the family beats his ass afterwards, and now he's on this run of like Okada's like, I want my title back. It has to come back to the family, etc. But regardless, um Yeah, Okada takes it.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:56

I I think I think it's Okada's especially. I'm sure Okada takes it, especially because that to me that makes a lot of sense for them to go down that route because then it gives it, because now Takesh has been betrayed and all this other stuff. And hell, maybe Kenny Omega will come back because him and Takeshka used to be friends and and now that he's been kicked out of the family, just like Kenny Omega was kicked out of the family. You know, and we can get uh Bushi.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:25

No, bro. He was walking in January, bruh.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:35

Hey man, look, John Cena was able to do some shit that he was supposed to be out. Bro, that man was struggling to the ring. Rehab. He did it. Rehab. Listen, no help. He got himself in that ring down that ramp. Like rehab is no assist.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:56

He, I mean, he did it, but goddamn. I'm just saying, rehab. Anyway, uh, next up we got uh FTR versus Cope and Cage Cope and Cage C and C. That's weird.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:11

Um so is an I quit match for the tag team titles, and if Edge, Cope, and Christian lose, they are no longer allowed to be a tag team with each other.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:25

Yeah, no, uh Cope and them are winning this. They've already lost twice to them. This is where they're going to win.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:32

No, they won. No, they actually they have not lost to them.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:36

They've lost twice to them in situations, not like in a regular tag team, but like I think it was like a uh uh the first one they lost against, and then they had a tag match, a tag title match at the last pay-per-view, and they lost. So they've lost too many times.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:52

No, no, no, no. They the first time these two fought each other, they won, but they got the heat because they dropped Beth Phoenix on her neck. And then when they came back and they fought for the titles, that time they did lose. But but of course it was fuck finish.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:13

Okay, so here's the thing. What is the story what other option is besides them winning? Because if Cope and him lose, you are losing the hot string of I'm gonna say, I don't give a fuck, Edge and Christian being a tag team. And that's what we want. We want, we want that. And there's no way unless they're both retiring this pay-per-view. Um, and I'm gonna say pay-per-view because this is definitely you still gotta pay 50-something bucks.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:40

No, no, no. This is pay-per-view. Yeah, it's pay-per-view. AEW makes pay-per-views.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:43

Yeah, they do, yeah, they do. Um, you're paying for it, but you getting. But anyway, they're not retiring here and they're not going anywhere else. So I truly feel like this is where they get the belt. It only makes sense. FTR have only been dealing with them for the last, I don't know how long. So who's up next? Nobody. Give it to Adam and Coke and give them a chance to run with it and go against other people.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:09

Yeah, no, I agree. Because, like, number one, FTR with the tag team tiles is stale as shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:15

They're always stale. There's never anything good from FTR in their tag team at uh tag team runs. Never. Literally, name name one thing outside of their matches that was really good about their range, just like how you just did with me before with Darby Allen. Do the same thing with FTR. Oh no, I was I did not agree.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:34

I was just saying how you feel.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:36

I might yeah, FTR is a great tag team, wrestling-wise, but bro, this ain't the Federation days, man. They they they they were good, they were good if they would have been around with the NWA days.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:50

Listen, okay. Ever. Well, I won't say ever. Like, they they're when they first showed up, they was cool.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:01

Okay, yeah, with that, that, yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:03

I honestly I would say shortly after they had their stint with the Briscoes, and maybe the second time that they dealt with the with the guns was when they've kind of sort of started kind of like not being as interesting. But there's a part of me that feels I almost don't want to put make it completely their fault, just because of the fact that, you know, you had to get Stokely in there to make you guys something. Yeah, that part. I'm just saying Honestly, I would say like ever since they've had to get Stokely on there with them, oh, nothing against Stokely. Because Stokely is, I mean, Stokely is as good as he can possibly be in the situation that he's in. But like, ever since they got Stokely, honestly, I would say ever since they got Stokely, and then yeah, ever since Stokely joined their spot is kind of sort of when they just kind of went downhill for him.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:55

No, no. I feel like Stokely has made them a little bit more of a man. Manageable watch because by themselves they're not as charismatic as you would want them to be as a tag team. But at least Stokely can give you moments and give you comedy and give you like if this is a roller coaster, before they had Stokely, they were on the slope going down.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:16

When they got Stokely, they did this and they do this. Hump? Down, huh? So it's like they're steadily going down, but Stokely does enough to kind of give you a little hope, like, oh, okay, they're a little. No, they're not.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:34

I think the biggest issue with them right now is that they need to go away for a little bit. And you're a little rest because FTR, like, we gotta, we gotta miss you and be like, yeah, they're back. They're gonna go against this tag team and shit like that.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:46

So no, they they need to be put in a situation.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:53

I don't think that's happening. I don't think that's happening anytime soon.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:56

Speaking of lack of story, uh and open challenges and shit.

Owen Hart Bracket Stampede And Frustrations

SPEAKER_03 1:07:01

Windsor versus uh, wait. Winds uh, you can do that, yeah. I would if I was enthusiastic about the match. I ain't gonna lie. This match was literally thrown together. This is a, in my opinion, a who cares match. Maybe once.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:18

Well, I mean, it's the Owen Hart tournament thing.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:20

So it's not really a throwaway, it's part of the tournament. A little bit, I guess. Which I'm going to make this oh no, no, no, no, that goes away. I don't know why that popped up. So I'm gonna make this statement about the Owen Hart tournament. Especially for the guys, for the guys, I feel that they don't care about the Owen Hart tournament. When you look at who they put in there. When you think about the Owen Hart tournament, whoever wins, they're supposed to go and get the title. Oh shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:57

Aren't we supposed to see the quarterfinals and the finals in the pay-per-view?

SPEAKER_03 1:08:03

No.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:03

Or is it finals at the finals at the next uh the next pay-per-view? No, this is just like the first rounds. Okay, because no, it's quarter finals. It says it said if you look one the quarterfinals.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:15

When the fuck were the other oh yeah, people were talking about that, like with they never like they say quarterfinals is like when were the qualifiers? There were no qualifiers.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:24

No.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:25

So I mean, but that's as far as this goes though, like when you they made this thing. So like, for instance, like with the guys, when you look at the list of the guys, it's like who the fuck you think gonna win this shit?

SPEAKER_02 1:08:40

Oh yeah, we've they've already speculated that the person that's supposed to win it is going to be uh go back to go back to it again.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:47

Um the winner's gonna for the guys it's gonna be Osprey. My prediction is the very end of all this is gonna come down to Osprey and swerve.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:56

Oh yeah, that that part, yes, it's Osprey and Swerve. And then Osprey is going to win. Because he's being made into a killer.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:05

I don't think so. Here's the thing it's only this is the only way it happens, right? If if Osprey wins, MJ wins.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:16

If Swerve wins, Darby wins.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:23

So MJ's winning, and uh obviously he's saying, I'm just saying, if we if it does happen though, because the only way it would make sense is now, say if Darby wins, right? Him versus Swerve, that's gonna be crazy.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:39

Cause I don't remember crazy because the only matches I know, the only ones I remember off the top of my head without having to look it up is the fact that Sojo and the Billy Goat, they're fighting. I don't remember who fights undernat, but on the other side, it's Bandito and Swerve, and then it's Claudio versus um. Oh, you know what?

SPEAKER_02 1:10:04

Maybe they're doing those in the the uh pre-show.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:07

Possibly, who knows? But like it's Brody King and then um what's his name? Uh uh uh Claudio. And so in my mind, I don't see Claudio going to the next round. It's gonna be Brody King, and then Swerve is going to beat Bandito, and then Swerve is gonna have that his rematch with Brody King. He's gonna beat him in uh our resident Billy Goat is he's just going to the next round. I don't I don't care who the fuck was in the other the match I'm missing, I'm forgetting right now, but but but he's going to the next round.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:38

Yeah, unfortunately with Samoa Joe, like you're putting him in a situation where we kind of just know, like, yeah, Osprey's winning this, like, it's unfortunate. Like, if it would have been swerve in Will Ospreay, that would be like, ooh, who's actually winning that?

SPEAKER_03 1:10:53

Like, so with all that being said, when it comes to this one, uh going back to the females. Here's my thing is excuse me. For for the women's one, number one, they got a bunch of no-name, as uh Tecla would say, dumb bitches. Okay. Now I feel like you're exploiting that shit. Now you exploit. But but like they have a whole bunch of they have a whole bunch of females on there who are not your normal AEW talent. Probably Ring of Honor? Not even Rang of Honor. Aside from Athena, they have like like literally like half of the females who are on there, like, I've never seen them in AEW in their in my life. Besides, besides Athena and Per Stephanie, and then these two. So it's like I think at the end of the day, Windsor's gonna go all the way because, you know. It's Windsor. And because I know her fiance is going to be going all the way.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:01

Oh, I mean, he does on a regular problem. And that's the AEW uh uh pay-per-view.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:09

Um actually, I'm sorry. There is the who cares stadium stampede match.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:15

Hey man, look, that's gonna be fun, bro. I don't give a fuck. Every stadium stampede is always fun. I mean, okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:21

Yeah, that's fine. That's fine. It's going to be fun. That's that's all it's going to.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:26

Yeah. I we gotta give it to that. It will be fun. Will there be story in it? Probably not. Listen, but it will be fun.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:34

The stadium stampede match is is the equivalent to the Dan Helsin match.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:40

I will I will tell you this much. They are going to give hints of the new day in there in some way, shape, or front. They're not gonna outright say it, but they're gonna give hints. Bro, how? They're on it, let me put it, if they But no, no, no, no. They're not gonna show up. They're gonna do something, like say something, and be like, man, you know, sooner or later it'll probably be a new, like some kind of Do you know how much trouble they would get in if they did?

SPEAKER_03 1:13:02

Like, when people are on that 90-day clause type thing, like they're technically not supposed to be.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:09

They're not supposed to be in communication, but you can still say shit.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:13

That I listen it. If they if they for if some a miraculous way they do, I will buy you a fucking coach. Cause ain't no fucking way they're gonna bring up the new day in the state.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:28

But why do you think this? Because they are going to. Is that your reasons why?

SPEAKER_02 1:13:38

Uh, I mean, they always like having cheeky ways of getting away with shit. So I just feel like they'll probably hint to them one day coming or something of that nature. Cause it just that's just bucks. Bucks don't do a lot of shit like that.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:56

It's not gonna be blatantly obvious, but you know, just a hint.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:00

Obviously, Chris Jericho, and then we're gonna wear the when this stay this the stampede. Who cares? Whatever.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:07

I mean, the dogs, yeah, I don't give a f fuck about the dogs.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:11

Bro, the way that they put this thing together, like the demand, the dogs, and then the Don Callis family. Like, when I first saw this graphic, I'm like, since when Kenny Omega was here, Kenny Omega ain't been in the ain't been on TV.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:31

Again, Tony Khan makes sure his boys eat. He makes sure his boys eat. You gotta give it to Tony Khan. He makes sure his boys eat.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:42

Here is my final analysis on AEW as all I feel comparably speaking, when I watch, it's like I watch WWE right now, and it's like I'm watching it almost out of habit. And then like the lat literally like the last Monday, that whole m that whole WWE program after Backlash, that episode of Raw was boring. But the one thing that made me pop and made everything okay with being boring was Jacob Fatou doing Jacob Fatu werewolf shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:24

Oh, you mean him landing a strike?

SPEAKER_03 1:15:27

Yes. That whole let me put it this way. I watched the whole, I watched all of Raw like, not even not necessarily like this, just lean back in my chair like this. And then that's the whole time.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:40

And then finally on the Jacob Fatou segment, oh shit. Oh, that was great. Okay, okay. All right.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:54

That was good. That was good. That was good. That was the only that was what made Raw good. And then I watched AEW. And it's like AEW, for me, it's almost like AEW just likes to edge you. They want, they like to make you think it's going to be good and you're gonna pop for something, and then it goes off, and you're like, where was the pop?

SPEAKER_01 1:16:25

Like, I I I was I was I was so ready to like be like, oh shit, that was good. Nah, AEW will make me do this. Not you doing sit-ups and shit.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:45

It's making you do sit-ups and shit. If it wasn't for the fact that I'll be drinking, I probably wouldn't have the gut now at this point, because I that's how I feel watching AEW. It's like like I'll get hype and I'll sit up for the match, and then when the match goes off, I get a backstage segment. At least at least I'm like, I'll be sitting up when I watch them raw, I'm like, I'm laid back because like ain't shit going on here.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:10

AEW will at least have me up. That's it. And it's like they can.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:19

They can be better. I believe they right now can be so much better than anything that WWE is doing. But they for some reason just choose not. They just, instead of actually throwing hands and whooping they ass, they just stand there and look at the beam about to come and hit them so that Piccolo can come and save them. That's that is AEW. AEW is Kid Gohan getting saved by Piccolo. The problem is we don't know who that Piccolo is, because it's definitely not uh CMLL and it definitely ain't Noogebear. So you're saying they're in trouble themselves.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:59

So you're saying AEW doesn't know how to dodge?

SPEAKER_03 1:18:03

Yes. AEW does not know how to dodge. And as far as WWE goes, WW is as dead as Goku was when he got hit with the special beam cannon trying to stop radits. So I don't I don't know uh it's like maybe that's maybe that's what we know. Maybe there needs to be another promotion out there that comes through and helps AEW show them the fucking way so that they can finally start hitting the potential that they obviously have. Bitch, who? I don't know. Like ain't no fucking bots.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:41

GC No, GCW has some good shit. Uh, I don't know, honestly. You don't even watch the show, so it's about AEW? Yes. Not as much, no. Cause it's like, man, until you give me something to to to tune into, because like every time I watch AEW, just like how you I'm tired of getting edged, bro. Okay? I'm trying to, I'm trying to explode. I'm trying to, I'm trying to let loose. And apparently their pay-per-views is when they let loose. So I'm fuck this foreplay shit. Make me make me go, okay? Get get me to to release. And I'm watching the pay-per-views to release. That's and you said edge, bro. That's the I mean to go. No, you're right. I'm a old, I'm old now. Fuck this foreplay shit. Give me give me what I want. Shit. My hips, my knees are only so good now. We used to be a machine gun, and now I'm just a sniper, bro. We just gotta uh we make every shot count.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:51

AEW's just snipers, ladies, do anyway.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:55

That's what we do, guys. What are your personal thoughts about AEW currently?

Your Predictions And Upcoming Interviews

SPEAKER_02 1:20:00

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